Oktavism & Basso Profundo Compilation | C2 - C1
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2020
- “Simply put, the term oktavist is most precisely used to refer to basses that sing down to contra B flat and lower in a choral setting. Basso profundo is Italian in origin, and has a long history of clear definition within the operatic tradition, being subdivided into the categories of lyric and dramatic. While the term basso profundo comes from Italy and the opera tradition, oktavist has its roots in the choirs of Russia.”
Information, videos and notes taken mostly from the Oktavism channel. Big thanks to them for existing.
A compilation of some significant low notes from oktavists and the like.
There are inevitably mistakes in this video. Please let me know of any you find.
I don’t own the music, videos, photos, or anything in this video. Sue me. 
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By far the best low note compilation ever.
Not the lowest but the post powerfull in that oktave
0:48 pure gold
Have you noticed Russian Orthodox liturgical music features oktavist voices? Russian czars seems to love the low notes in their music. LOL
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
King Louis XIII had a splendid bass voice. King Louis XIII could very easily hit a C1 note since he was an oktavist. 🎭🩰🎨
There was a post on face book , asking if Avi Kaplan, TimFoust, Tim Storms and other acapella basses could do Oktavism( without extend techniques). Elliot Robinson's response to this : Definitely no.
Also I learnt from Jay Fleming ( Oktavism channel) that Eric Alatorre's voice is so resonant that it causes YOUR chest to vibrate, if you were to have a conversation with him . Elliott described Alatorre's voice as Stupid( In the best way). If Elliott, a bass with such a great calibre , speaks like that, you can only imagine the depth of these guys voices.
Yah I know lol I’ve read it haha
@@matthewdockray9745 Yeah, knew you would have. This was mainly for others. If there's ever an Avi kaplan, Tim Foust ,etc Basso profondo discussion, I'll copy paste this.
Reuben Thomas honestly I think weirdly Geoff would be the most useful for Oktavism (even though he’s possibly the least basso Profundo of the 3) cuz of his subharmonics though we’ve never heard him project them
@@matthewdockray9745 True. He said he that his subharmonics isnt that useful offmic, but hes getting there.
@@matthewdockray9745, I've heard VoicePlay live at a small venue and Geoff's subharmonics are oddly loud... you could hear him slightly unamplified in with the sound system. I have an overlap of my chest and use of subharmonics around E1, which my E1 sub is stronger, but my chest-fry is stronger at C#1 than my subharmonic is... but on-mic, the subharmonic sounds better. Geoff's subs, again, are WAY stronger than I expected.
6:50 how in the world does someone hold an F#1 for 45 seconds?!
He stops and takes a quick breath every 10-15 seconds or so, but it’s so seamless it sounds like 1 note. Eric Alatorre is incredible
@@matthewdockray9745 The only thing more badass than that sustained F#1 is the mustache on him.
If I did that in chest
It might be possible
I almost got there myself... Really good breath management
I try that in chest, i feel my chords will explode after 8 seconds
0:52 ,I've seen other true basses(who can project a low C and lower in choral settings) sing this part of the aria 'Der Rosenkavilier', all them sound good, except when they sing the low C. Barring Moll, most of the other's low C sound like a barely audible croak, not at all musically pleasant. Only a true basso profundo like Moll could project the low C so effortlessly ,at the same time making it sound musical.This just goes to show how demanding opera is.Moll could go down to a decent low F(F1), and he has a recorded Bb1 'O Sancta justitia ' , and the video of the it is here on RUclips.I know it's an unfair comparison but if Geoff,Tim or Avi were to sing this, Geoff and Tim wouldn't be heard on the last note, and Avi's usually beautiful and melodious C2 would sound like somewhat audible burp/croak.I can only imagine what it must feel like to hear Moll blast first octave notes in resonant rooms/halls.
Or Mihail Zlatopolskiy with his C1 over the choir.
@@Kornelius-xb6er I was talking about operatic basses, my man. Mikhail Zlatopolsky was a choral singer. He has nothing to do with the comment.
Well I can project a low E
Not a low C
i mean it's still good none the less, impressive as all hell as anyone that can reach that far down is few and far apart
@@reubenthomas7907 He actually sang good bit of opera in his younger years, so don't be so dismissive if you don't know what you're talking about
Damnn the B1 at 1:28
Massive
He’s actually summoning Satan
SyosnamanonynaPi pa pi pa pimirosna hamu hamoooooooooooonisyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 dhu'ukavozuugo zhoplaajuuquugh
@@brianweeks87 I just want to know the words to this timestamp
Ort's Eb1is pretty clean
1:50 - Dimitri Tikhonov (aka Alexander Liver)
1:55 Tikhonov!
3:00 Voicu!
3:17 I don't know, who is that one?
4:44 Gdeshinsky!
Zlatopolsky is present in 3:17
@@matthewdockray9745 He sounds a bit different here.
Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior i believe others are also present, but Zlatopolsky is confirmed to be on the recording. Video was taken from here: ruclips.net/video/o_CGUpoyPE0/видео.html
@@matthewdockray9745 Who is singing the oktavist part in 7:41?
Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior best I can say is that Vladimir Miller is in the section ruclips.net/video/kEImnWWmrYY/видео.html
Superb (!!!!!!) compilation, thank you !!
From 8:32 to 8:37 is intense!
I’m guessing that’s how it feels live
Bravo !
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
Awesome compilation bro!! How come I didn't see this?
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
Cool
I would love to hear/feel oktavists recordings played at 60% speed
They sing better than the singers these days
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
אינטרגלקטי מוסמך!🌹
0:22 what's the song?
Iberian «The evening sacrifice” P chesnokov
00:26, has many people singing a C2, but to my ears there is a C1 in there as well.
Theres only C2
@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Ah, must be some kind of undertone effect due to many powerful C2's.
@@reubenthomas7907 well I cannot sing that low but there possibly is an undertone
same is here. i can reach c2 and b1 but my c2's like c3, and profundos c2's like c1. i think the reason of difference is profundos speak voices are bass too, my speak voice not bass.
Wish more people saw this
Where are the usual badam b ,Scraggs and others ?
Probably haven’t discovered Matthew’s videos yet
@@colefountain1030 when they see this its gonna blow their minds.
From f sharp one,it really sounds like a double bass;it s impossible to hear the difference with human voice up to me.
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
Someone pleaassee tell me the name of the song at 1:14
just word "Amen"
Otche nash
@@gab3w0rl3y9 thank youu
What is the track at 9:07 ?
I was trying to sing along, but had to give up at F1. Even F#1 I couldn`t hold for very long.
Anyone else use videos like these for practice?
I do now!
Yes...im still 23 but well i hope my voice will get fully trained for my early 30's
I use these to match the notes in pitch and duration.
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
3:40 can anybody give me a link to the original video?
ruclips.net/video/3hJ5OB0X2fk/видео.html
@@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 Thanks!!
@@t.j.p.8183 You're wellcome.
What is the ensemble/song at 1:13?? I need to know!
Bilbo Laggins just “Amen”
Its zlatopolsky in russian chamber choir
I am just a Dramatic Bass. Profondos are not able to sing a normal bass repertoire💖🎩
와우...
1:33 demon lol
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
Who are the ensemble at 1:00?
‘Ensemble aria’
They’re lead by pavel Myakotin on bass, who’s also the oktavist for the kovcheg ensemble
Who’s the absolute monster at 8:33?
I’m sorry but I’m unable to find the original video. I believe they might’ve been Serbian(?) the video (I think) was under 2 minutes long and was more of a solo chant than a piece of music. Sorry I can’t be of more help. If you ever find it pls let me know
His name is Alexander Nazarov. His extremamely low notes aren't good, but he has a good Bb1.
Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior thank you for helping me find it, I spent ages looking for it and never found it again lol
This is the clip
ruclips.net/video/qW7rWCWrr2k/видео.html
@@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 i thought this was glenn Miller.
@@tropicjam7343 Glenn Miller is right after.
Bb1- неточно интонируется, на четверть тона ниже ...или только мне так слышится?
Who was that G1 around 5:41
Probably Alexey Gdeshinsky.
6:48 F#1
the guy from 1:27 actualy scared me a bit
@ratdancer77 indeed
Demon
Yes, it's Paul Myhalik. You can see a better picture of him at 6:20
@@taviskaron thats glib
@@taviskaronThats glib not Paul
I think the origin of Oktavists was due to the lack of organs in Russia so they often found oktavists to replicate organs
10:21, что за песнь?
What is the song?
We have no other help
"Не имамы иныя иныя помощи" , автора не помню. Это хор русско-американский
@@cirilo7218 Б. Ледковский
А кто это на 8.31 с короткой фразой - ,, нас во искушение"?
Who is it at 9:08?
The list of the singers?
There’s many many in this video. Which clips do you want to know in particular
@@matthewdockray9745 every except Mikhail, Alatorre, Glenn, Pavel and Ort, because I know them :D
Nicolas Cage this might have to be a WIP comment as I don’t have a list saved of all the clips I’ve used... but I’ll write down what I can remember off by heart for now
0:50 Kurt Moll
1:35 Paul Myhalik
2:05 Glenn Miller, Vladimir Miller, Adrian Peacock
2:45 Wilhelm Schwinghammer (I think)
3:00 Stefan Voicu (I think)
3:50 Joel Frederickson
4:30 Tuukka Haapaniemi
4:40 A. Gdeshinsky (possibly Alexei)
5:20 Gdeshinsky again I believe
6:25 Glib Chandrowsky
8:25 possibly Oleg Bardinov but I can’t quite remember
10:25 a whole bunch of people, though I’ve read that only 2 people actually sung the D1... can’t remember who...
I may come back to this thread when I have time and try to figure out who the others are
Hope that helped
@@matthewdockray9745 Alexis Lukianov and Alex Dmitrieff were on the D1.
@@BluevesPL
1:52, 3:39 Dmitri Tihonov (aka. Alexander Liver).
5:44 Sergey Kochetov.
7:46 Vladimir Miller or other oktavist.
8:33 Aleksander Nazarov.
8:53 Leonid Streltsov.
8:47 Stefan Voicu + Dan Spatariu.
9.17. Who is it?
Departament EDC this is the link to the clip, but apparently it’s an unknown oktavist ruclips.net/video/ClH08c4ATQM/видео.html
The clip after is Zlatopolsky
Can someone linked me a video on 3:27
ruclips.net/video/4i2oS30-Hpo/видео.html
Thanks bro
What’s the difference between oktavist and basso profoundo in range?
That’s kind of a hard question to answer as they’re both different things. Basso Profundo is a voice type. Oktavist is a role within a group (singing the bass part an octave lower). I think generally a Basso Profundo needs to be able to project a Bb1 (according to Glenn Miller), though this does vary with definition. An oktavist’s range is sort of irrelevant imo as long as they can hit the notes. Pavel Myakotin of the Kovcheg ensemble is the oktavist for their group yet he is only a baritone, but uses subharmonics and strohbass to achieve the low notes. An oktavist’s part goes as low as the performer is able to I suppose. I’m not too sure on any of this so checking out Oktavism.com might be helpful and have the answer you’re looking for, but it’s probably good for someone in the oktavist role to have a G1 in their range
Matthew Dockray so how should I know if I’m a bass or oktavist?
If you can sing a G1 loudly , you can consider yourself to have an oktavist voice . If you have a strong D2 , you are a true bass.
Reuben Thomas thanks
@@_generation_youth_x28 You're welcome.
Song at 9:40 please ?
ruclips.net/video/XOJRnhCS-VE/видео.html
04:00 Who is he?
Joel Frederiksen
@@matthewdockray9745 Thank you! 😃👌
Who is that? 3:25
it's Eric alatorre, the bass of chanticleer singing ring of fire ruclips.net/video/4i2oS30-Hpo/видео.html
If you meant the clip before with the snow, we don't know who's in the oktavist section, though Zlatopolsky has been confirmed to be present ruclips.net/video/o_CGUpoyPE0/видео.html
Who is singer and what is song 3:30
Soloist is Eric Alatorre singing bass lead on ‘Ring of Fire’ cover by Chanticleer
:)
What and who is 8:32 - 8:37 ?
Alexander Nazarov.
10:23 WHO IS THAT OMGGGGGG
“Going from closest to the camera: Alexey Dmitrieff, Alex Lukianov, Dusan Ljubinkovic, Vyacheslav Prutskik, Christopher Mallory, Alexey Kuznetsov, and Ivan Sidorov.”
Matthew Dockray ALL OF THEM SUNG THOSE LOW NOTES?????? WOWWW...
Its Ethannn can’t say for sure, but because of the power of it, I’d say they all at least had a go at it.
ruclips.net/video/6G83WEuo-NA/видео.html at 1:15:04 they perform it live down half a step to a C#1 (I only found the video about half an hour ago, hence it’s not in this compilation), though I’m not sure if the full oktavist section is present from the original clip
@@matthewdockray9745 what drink does a bass voice need for more
R E S O N A N C E
LegoBlox Railfan just water should suffice
I am an octavist
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html
Doesn’t pavel Myakotin, use subs. If not wow:)
Bass Nerdd indeed. He’s actually a baritone. His full voice is roughly F2 - G4. E2 - Bb1 is strohbass, anything lower is subharmonics
Who told you this?
powerlifting it was said by fellow oktavist Vladimir Kozelov. You can find the quote and more information in the replies in the top comment of this video ruclips.net/video/1ZxX45vQuBo/видео.html
@@matthewdockray9745 yeah i think there is a little lost in translation with the guy who is talking about what Kozelov said; I've chatted with Kozelov and others in the group it is chest down to C2 or so and then the subharmonics below that.
Where's Mariah Carey?
Song at 3:58??
ruclips.net/video/ITOdtZNcPHw/видео.html
Zlatopolsky the best!
If I created my own choirs, I would have a human equalizer to control the depth of my 2 bassist.
King Louis XIII had a splendid bass voice. King Louis XIII could very easily hit a C1 note since he was an oktavist. 🎭🩰🎨
See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: ruclips.net/video/Q_T7CtPX1K4/видео.html