I worked for a contractor at Disney back in 2006 and the partner at the firm told me they were going to build that swamp land near the service area into multi-million dollar homes. I said no way do people know this is a dirty mosquito infested swamp. He said if Disney builds it people will shell out millions for it.
I live in Orlando, not exactly on this beautiful neighborhood, since 2007 and the mosquitos have been less and less every year. I don’t know why, maybe all of the construction/? Either way it’s so much nicer
I agree 1000%. Lol everything in central Florida is either far as hell, busy from all the traffic, ridiculously humid cause it’s literally a swamp, or the over saturation of either tourist or people from up north or the Caribbean island. I’ve lived there for years and I couldn’t be happier not being there.
I watched a video about golden oak last year and the woman had a slide built into the staircase so the kids could side down it. She had a steampunk themed entertainment room as well. It was amazing but you could see the tears from the husband knowing how much it all cost!
Are you referring to this video. While, I enjoyed the tour and this is a family that has clearly embraced the idea of living in Disney. Either that or they are very good actors because they have me fooled. ruclips.net/video/kzZl6Dziq7g/видео.html
I can't stop thinking about that scene from Madagascar 2 where King Julian says to Melman "could you please go back (to coach), this is first class, nothing personal, it's just that we are better than you"
I don’t mind Disney offering different experiences at wildly different price points for those who want to pay and golden oaks seems fine to me, if you’ve got the cash and you want that experience feel free no one’s stopping you. However removing perks we already have to then offer them at a markup and not caring to some of the markets that made you who you are doesn’t seem fair!
@@bighands69 being in debt 24 trillion does not make a country wealthy. Besides if it was so wealthy why do you have so much homeless people and people not getting proper medical care?
I was on a Caribbean cruise on Royal Caribbean in 2018 and the Scottish couple at my table said they own a home in Golden Oaks. They described their purchase within DisneyWorld. I never heard of Golden Oak until my meeting of them. They bought it for their grand children. This rich couple had diamonds in their eye glasses . They looked rich!! Great video! Thanks!!
A big chunk of Golden Oak’s original plat adjacent to Fort Wilderness parking and stables was transferred to an entity building the Four Seasons Residences. Those crammed together McMansions are still available to purchase. As far as Golden Oak, a few former fairways have not been built on yet, so I expect some lots will still be released to build on. The HOA total annual fee was about $43K annually in 2019. Your three price options are all required not a la carte choices. Many of the early homes were bought by global company CEO’s to bring family and grandchildren to DisneyWorld but not for full-time living. Around 2015 most of the purchases shifted to people living there full time or close to it.
It's amazing to think that when Walt Disney 'secretly' purchased the 27,000 acres of Florida farmland, (that would eventually become Disney World), he paid between $100. to at most $1,000. an acre in the 1960's! Today, some of that same land is appraised at millions an acre! Golden Oaks looks great, but how many times can you go to Disney World?
@@JS-zb1vv Not for nothing. The value today is all about the economic development that has taken place. If Disney did not buy the land and develop it the valuation would be that high but it would still be significant considering california.
Had an annual pass to Disneyland for years but the pricing is getting ridiculous and the wait times and lines stress me out not. Kinda not worth it anymore
Yeah I use to get Disney world annual weekday passes which use to be great until the "Pandemic" came. Now with some thing still closed & having to wear a mask & increased prices & getting rid of the free fast passes its so NOT WORTH IT! And I really did want to go this year during the 50th Anniversary, but just not worth it anymore. Instead I'm thinking about going to Yellowstone this year. I've been there a few times before & its a great place to visit.
Huge FOMO - both financially & otherwise - on these properties. So beautiful but these properties are already out of most of our price ranges & will only get worse. Insanity.
I don't "get" the Disney obsession of so many people...as for the high priced offerings, if people will pay them Disney management is obligated to their shareholders to charge them.
Disneyland and Disney world are cool to take the kids to. Many adults have a nostalgia for Disney. If Warner had a brain they could easily do the same thing. There are many other successful parks as well.
I went out with a Disney freak who worked there. He talked me into going and on the drive o we be asked me what the first thing is I wanted to do, I jokingly said , " can I punch Mickey in the face?" He got actually mad and said I had disrespected Mickey Mouse. I was like, "ok, you do realize it's a fictional character, he isn't really alive right?" We ended up having a fun time, but people get weird about it.
@@effinyu9554 first of all. Great name. I love disney. It is awesome for people who aren’t creative, outgoing, or socially sound. Disney does all of that for you. People cling to that. Sometimes, it’s the only place they feel comfortable. Nostalgia also important. They remember it as children. Perhaps their adult life sucks.
@@bighands69 Warner already makes bank licensing their IPs to Universal, they literally earn millions every year from the licensing of Harry Potter lands.
It is remarkable how Disney has grown, having bought out so many different companies and just expanded into so many arenas. Far beyond the original vision. It has gotten very VERY LARGE. Like the proverbial beanstalk. Or maybe the giant at the top.
Can't say I'm too surprised. The rich got richer during the pandemic, not to mention all the people who got rich during the GameStop Stock thing. And lets be honest: Who WOULDN'T want to live at Disney World?
I love this beautiful FS resort and have stayed there many times. I was married at the property years ago and the service is the best you'll ever have in your life. It's expensive and exclusive but you're getting a service level appropriate to the cost (although it has tripled in recent years). I toured one of these homes in the very early stages of development and they are absolutely stunning and the craftsmanship is amazing. If you have the money and have worked hard to get these things, I see no problem in it. It's gorgeous!
I 1000% agree with you Dom! After 4o years of loyal service to them, they have officially priced me out. Now my entire family has annual passes to Knott's Berry Farm + water park for the same cost as a one day park ticket! Disney will only be for the wealthy and that's what they want. I'm so sorry they turned Walt's legacy into this. :(
We bought Cedar Fair Platinum pass which gets us admission to all Parks they own for $199(free parking)*. WDW tickets for the day is more expensive. *unlimited dining was $149. Disney can't beat that!
I'm never ever going to live in Golden Oak cause I can't afford it but I don't hate people who can afford it. They don't count my money so I won't count theirs.
For me I'm not giving Disney anymore of my money. Was going to go this year but all the decisions last year from eliminating Magic Express, magic hours discounted and replaced with substandard early morning hours (and extra hours for people in the rich resorts), the introduction of Disney Genie...just to much. There is more then enough other experiences out there that will be just as (or more) fulfilling and cost a fraction of the amount.
I've never been a fan of Disney and growing up my parents never took me there. Instead, we went to Europe and Italy a few times and visited cool places in the US. I would say it is much better than walking around a resort for a week
Good choice. Just went to Disneyland at the end of January. The Genie+/Lightning Lane destroys your visit if you're a regular person who doesn't want to pay the extra upcharges. Added at least 20-40 minutes to every ride, and you have to stand there and watch them let dozens of people cut the line because they paid more than you. What a terrible value to instill in children, having money makes you better than other people.
As far as the price of the deluxe rooms, at times with the discounts you can get one for less a night than a moderate. In particular, Old Key West, Saratoga Springs, and Animal Kingdom Lodge. Not that the changes are exactly something people like, but you can get a room in that tier for less than you'd think.
@@andromedaspark Yeah I get that but it seems like it's one hit after the other. Plus I just don't like that Disney took away Magic hours which were a huge perk of staying on property. Those 3 hour night time magic hours were so much fun.
“To all who come this happy place, [especially those who have VIP access], welcome.” I gave 10 years of my life working for the company and they were just starting this project when I moved on. I cherished Disney all through my childhood and as a young adult graduating through college. Disney most certainly helped to advance my career and I always thought I’d retire as a Disney cast member. But like many other companies, it’s not the 1960s anymore- benefits mostly suck, and pay is low even in management. I remember I got to witness firsthand how Disney bulked up an entire department designed to cater to this wealthy segment of American society. And I get it, It’s easy to be upset over this direction but you gotta remember Disney is just responding to how American and global societies have changed. Walt Disney lived through a period where there was much more economic egalitarianism than there is today. Profit sharing, pensions and benevolent bosses have long faded. This approach to running a business or dare I say..a government is considered Marxist aka communist nowadays. The baby boomers don’t realize just how good they had it.
Nah, most of them did. That's exactly why they allowed and voted for and continue to vote for policies that raise that ladder up behind them further and further away from younger generations. The future of humanity as a whole is bleak.
Boomers wanted the good times to never end so continuously voted for policies and encouraged practices they thought would continue making them prosper. But as a result, every company now focuses on solely maximizing profits, workers be damned.
@Mirror Kilroy location not name. Disney write their name on all kinds of shit. Why would anyone want to live in the middle of that circus anyway. Hell.
Those properties are holiday homes for wealthy people and it gives them access to Disney at the heart of the action. It would be nice to take the kids there for summer even though the places are getting a little bit too crazy.
Well Walt Disney created Disneyland so he could enjoy the Park with his daughters. Much of his inspiration came from his early years with his daughters in taking them to Griffin Park in Los Angels and watching his daughters ride the merry-go-round without his participation. So he created Disneyland where the whole family could injoy the "Happiest Places on Earth," Not much left of that here in Golden Oaks or just about any Disney Inc. enterprise including the Parks today. So Sad, that is change for you.
There is simply not enough Disney Parks in America and population of California has gone from 13 million in the mid 1950s to 40 million in 2022. When I took the children to Disneyland in the 1990s it was busy but nothing compared today. They needs a few more locations throughout America to deal with the American population but also to deal with foreign tourists. Legoland is crazy as well in California. American states need to build a few more new cities to help relieve their population pressures.
Nice video. No matter how luxurious a community is, nothing can equal the love and company of friends and family. Solomon said it best: "Vanity...all is vanity" (Ecclesiastes). The housing reviewed cannot bring true joy, not for a sustained period. I do; however, feels badly about the high prices of the parks as many families can no longer easily afford a Disney Vacation...or a day at the ballpark. Your advice is excellent- responding with grace and dignity is a worthy goal.
I loved this video!!! I guess for many it would be a pleasure to say that you have and/or live in a house in Walt Disney World grounds. Like pretty much everything else that Disney does; like Celebration and Golden Oak community they are built to perfection. But I wonder if seeing how Disney initially intended to construct 450 homes and it was reduced to 300 are they going to reconsider using the same top builders and build the remaining 150 homes seeing how fast the homes were sold out. Also, I heard allegedly Disney is also considering building a gated community consisting 6000 homes within Sunbridge Florida. Hopefully they do build the 55+ neighbourhood similar to Golden Oak and/or Celebration with the same top builders and they use single level floor plans similar to The Villages in Florida's Designer Homes and Premier Homes. As I have stated before pretty much everything that Disney has done when it comes to real estate like their homes at Celebration and the Golden Oak community are build to perfection. Again, I reiterate building the 55+ neighbourhood community similar to Golden Oak and/or Celebration with the same top builders with home plans that combine the best elements of Golden Oak Disney and/or Celebration with The Villages in Florida single floor Premier Homes planes IMHO would be amazing.
Certainly would make for a fantastic weekender and portfolio addition (holiday letting could prove very lucrative) but I’d never consider that location for a primary residence
Four Seasons has the best character breakfast in the entire resort, IJS. You don't need to be a resident of Golden Oaks or a guest at the hotel. It's actually more affordable than the offerings everywhere else, too.
I do not think so, seeing how not all of Disney’s property in Florida is actually available for a 5th park. Surprisingly while the entire Disney World property is very large approximately about 40 square miles (25600 acres) a lot of it is actually not suitable for building at all. Reedy Creek did an analysis of WDW undeveloped land and how much of it is sustainable for development. 2,825 acres (19.9 percent of the undeveloped land) some land is suitable for development (these are lands outside of the Conservation areas and generally above certain flood elevation levels), 2,256 acres 15.9 percent is marginally suitable for development (these are areas where development is strongly discouraged and places that would require mitigation of wetland impacts beyond what the district has already arranged for), and 9,093 acres 64.2 percent is unsuitable for development (this includes wetlands below a certain flood elevation level and all Conservation Areas - Disney set aside part of the Disney World property for conservation many years ago). Seeing how as I stated in another comment that Disney's Golden Oak is 980 acres. To put that in perspective, the Magic Kingdom is approximately 107 acres, Hollywood Studios is approximately 135 acres, and Epcot is approximately 300 acres. Meaning this neighbourhood is almost twice the size of those three parks combined. Also Disney's Animal Kingdom is the largest theme park in the world and covers 580 acres; so it’s likely much easier and more cost-effective to just create an expansion rather than build an entirely new park from scratch. Yes expansions can come with their own challenges due to that existing infrastructure, but the challenges for a small expansion are likely less than the challenges would be for an entirely new park. Granted I know there are other factors involved but if WDW really wanted to build a 5th gate park. Disney need to take some ideas from two parks in Europe one is Efteling which 180 acres in the Netherlands and Phantasialand in Brühl (Rhineland) which is 69 acres. Both of these parks have limited space but managed to pack much into such a small space while many of Disney's newer attractions require massive plots of land and enormous show buildings of mostly empty space. For example Phantasialand loops rides over and under guest areas to maximize the buildable area--even when literally right next to a residential housing area! Secondly, Phantasialand and Efteling demonstrates the timeless magic of original storytelling and unique theming. The park excels precisely because it isn't held back by a need to incorporate existing IP into everything. Just like Space Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean, the Haunted Mansion, and Big Thunder Mountain are still just as popular today as they were when they first opened, Phantasialand's and Efteling's themed areas and attractions have been future-proofed and this is what a WDW fifth gate needs to build in a new park.
As nice as those homes are and as much as I would love to effectively live at Disney World, I could never justify spending that much money even if I had it. I would, however, live to be invited to an open house or party at one lol.
Those houses aren't nice, they're ultra-cheap. The buyers are suckers. Do a deep dive on Disney's Sunshine City (where t=The Truman Show was filmed). People paid thru the nose to live there and it was total and utter junk. U think this place will be any better?
I hate rich people. All this opulent living is just a huge bragging platform. It’s disgusting and I hope these huge corporations suffer the consequences one day…
These things are always amazing when done right but for 99% of us it’s an aspirational if I won the lottery situation. I think this is the least of the problems with the Disney companies current moves considering they appear to be tarnishing their brand with 1000 cuts across different areas. As always the cast members and support are the best part of the company while the executives seem entirely out of touch which was not always the case. It will be interesting to see if they adjust at all or just keep plowing ahead despite social media being flooded with people unhappy by changes.
Wouldn't matter if I was loaded. I wouldn't give Disney my money. They left staff they paid off during the pandemic with nowhere to live. Some were living out of their cars. There were people raising money to feed them, meanwhile Disney were paying millions to their executives. THEY didn't suffer, that's for sure!
Left the company after 4 years, after they asked me to move from CA to FL. Thanks, but no thanks. Haven't slept better since that resignation. Lots of very miserable folks working for the company, after the new, greedy CEO took over.
It's a sad story of where we're at as a society: the rich have gotten *so* wealthy at this stage that they're just finding random stupidly expensive things to sink more money into, pure Gilded Age status symbol seeking. I'd shrug it off, but all the care that went into Golden Oak stands in stark contrast to the sheer lack of effort, creativity, and inspiration currently infecting stateside Disney parks, as well as the unvarnished greed on display as Disney rakes in record revenues yet insists on cutting perks, raising prices, and icing regular park-goers out of "premium events" with markups, yet another avenue for the super-wealthy to throw their ill-gotten gains around to guarantee that they won't have to rub elbows with us lowly middle classers or, God forbid, the poors. Don't actually have scarcity and exclusivity? Just artificially create some! This is *everywhere* now, not just Disney. Film studios, video game developers, every business you can think of is moving away from providing fans and the general public a product people can actually use, interact with, or simply enjoy and moving towards exclusively catering to the wealthy and to other large companies. The end goal is clear: create a scenario where they can make ungodly profits *without ever having to appeal to the general public at all*. And why not? Disney can then let every ride fall into disrepair, not come up with any original attraction concepts, cut live entertainment, remove every money saving perk, but still be in the red because they'll exclusively cater to millionaires and those who are willing to scrape up years of savings just for a few days of "experiencing the magic". And here we are, Disney knee-deep in this muck, and they're selling out at a massive pace. It's sad, but here we are.
@@joelwillis2043 No, but we are due for a huge change and it is coming. Capitalism in another form will rise. You cannot take away our inherent programming--greed, betterment over others, and want. It just needs to be put in check now and then. Disney is greed and krap-scatter intensified and Walt is definitely spinning in his grave.
Huge FOMO here, just in case I ever win the lottery. If I have had the money back in the day, I would have bought tons of these houses. It was absolutely clear that these houses will all quadruple in worth.
Yes. I looked at the Golden Oaks website in 2015 or so and I believe some of the models then were available for less than a million. But that was still out of our budget. I really really would like one of these homes but not as primary residence. The ambiance just seems so nice and yes, I used to enjoy our family vacation at WDW. I am originally from Eastern Germany and lived there during a time when the wall still separated the country. We were so poor at some point that being hungry was normal. Going on a vacation to WDW is still bringing tears because I know the hurdles and hard work it took to make it possible. We’re not wealthy though and Disney is pricing us out. I don’t, however envy those who are able to afford to live there. I’ve never envied the rich but I am super curious on how to perhaps be able to afford a house in Golden Oaks myself 🙂🙂 Good luck by the way on your journey to maybe own one of these houses 🙂🙂
The Four Seasons is not $5,000 per night. I believe it’s $1,000-$2,000. Not that I would pay that to stay in Orlando but it is lower than what was stated in the vid.
Honestly sounds like quite the deal for a place like these! its no wonder they sold out. especially if youre allowed to rent out the home, such as airbnb. Then you could pretty much use that income to make the home pay for itself. I used to build homes in the ultra exclusive private ski and golf club called the Yellowstone Club in Big Sky Montana. Its a members only - by invitation ski resort with a golf course and outdoor recreations in summer. Members include Bill Gates, Steve Wynn, Tom Brady, Matt Damon, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher, some of wall streets biggest hedge fund managers. Membership is limited to less than 750 households. Our cheapest places were what most in the club referred to as "kids condos"... 750 sq ft studios in the main lodge that members would often buy for their grown up children. Price tag on those 750 sq ft studios? 4.5 million.. townhomes started from about mid 7 million to 14 million and homes starting at about 10 million but most were in the 20 million range with some, such as the CEO of GoPro cameras, Nick Woodman's place built for upwards of 80 million. And the real estate couldnt sell faster or be in higher demand. Though its scarcity and exclusivity largely plays into that, it is still surprising how many people in the world have the type of money to afford real estate like that.. It is some incredible real estate, i had the pleasure of overseeing construction of this beautiful home theprggroup.com/projects#gallery-452-1
$5000??? Stayed at other four seasons at that price for a week not a day. This is all so ridiculous. Not saying that 5K for anything isn’t ridiculous but they just slap the Disney brand and it’s suddenly so much worse.
The allure is the exclusivity of it all. Our "social betters" want to have a vacation where they never have to actually interact with any of us "regular" people, so they'll drop tens of thousands on a damn hotel for a few nights just to guarantee they're breathing rarified air. It's borderline dystopian.
He lied. A room at the four seasons is not $5000 a night. He have you the price of the highest suite. A regular room is just over a thousand a night. Still expensive but so is the Hilton if you only have a red roof inn budget
So when is the other "Pop Resort" coming out for the "commoners" so it can "balance" it out? I'm sure those mansions have "lifetime" passes to the park. In small print says for a small annual fee. LOL!
@Michael Taylor, lol indeed my friend! 😉 How about those same value resorts requiring $800+/night? Sure, they are not close to the $5,000/night at the luxurious Four Seasons, but soon the value resorts will no longer be considered a value!😜😜
Actually you still have to pay for the resort tickets.. you're just buying a house with no real perks. Meanwhile, you can buy a house with land for under 400k just a couple of miles outside of Disney like I did. I rent it out as a short term vacation rental for those who are sick of getting nothing from the Disney resorts 👍
@@mickeysmyspiritanimal223 "Value" resorts haven't been a real value for years especially since perks are mostly gone. Cheaper to stay off WDW property for a better room that's usually nicer with more amenities than the abused rooms in WDW. Other than Shades of Green, my last trip staying on property was April 2018. That's when variable paid parking started! For property paid for in the 1960s! Developed as parking in a place that has no shortage of land. Oh of course the parking is no different from Grand Foridian than at All Stars and you still walk so far at both. There will never be another Park @WDW. Bob's been busy with ever increasing DVC and residential construction/sales.
$5000 a night, and folks complain about the star cruiser hotel is pricey. at least the Halcyon comes with story, food, drink and park admissions. the houses look nice but $8M is such a crazy price point. do the folks get annual park passes for that price? I guess if folks can afford a house like that they probably do the VIP day at disney with all the behind the scenes and fast pass rides
I don’t really care about golden Oakes. The thought of living next to a huge theme park doesn’t appeal to me. I lived by the beach in a popular tourist destination here in Victoria. It was a nightmare. It doesn’t matter how gated and protected it is. The sounds of guests and the fireworks will get old really quickly. As for the prices. That’s their choice. If they want to up the prices that’s fine. I have my nose pointed towards Tokyo and have started referring to it as my home park. Why go all the way to California or Florida when Tokyo Disney is right there. But. I’m an Aussie so my view on this is VERY different to those of my friends on both coasts. They aren’t happy with the price hikes.
Disney announced just this week they are developing a 618 acre residential community near Palm Springs. So I guess they're in the residential construction business now.
I prefer the mountain's. A log cabin with a fire in the fireplace on a cold evening. Watching and listening to the wildlife. No noisy neighbors and a river for my back yard. Yeah that's my home. I live in the mountains now. Wonderful life.
Would I pay these prices for this? No. Do I understand the need for it? Yes. Here is how I look at it. If Disney said they were going to build 2000 new homes in a neighborhood, the demand would still be high. Supply and demand is how homes are priced. Anyone who says that its greedy of Disney or any of these home owners, I ask this.... If you were given one of these homes for free, lets say in a contest, would you sell it for asking, or would you take the highest bidder? You most likely would take the highest offer.. that is how real estate works. People complain when they cant have something that they want. Can I afford these homes, no, but I would love to have one, even if I cant afford the annual HOA dues. Not because of the price, but because these are beautiful homes, with gorgeous manicured landscapes. Its the same argument with people who hate HOAs. You pay for a product and you get what you want. Until we live in a cash free society, where everyone respects the land and property, then we unfortunately will have expensive neighborhoods with wealthy people living behind gates.
I wonder how many of them sit empty for long stretches of time while their owners treat them like vacation properties instead of homes....while disney parks still have homeless employees.....hmmmmm
We are all just mere passengers here on Earth. We don’t “own” anything and everything is temporary. The greatest wealth is health, friends and family. Enjoy those gifts while you can
Its basic stuff. I found even playing planet coaster that you reached point where the popularity of your park will kill your park. Queue lines get too long people get pissed off. So you have to raise your prices to reduce your numbers. It’s almost a formula price hick reduces guest numbers but then you most improve quality if there not balance the whole thing fall’s apart.
Being one of those kids whose parent's didn't buy a house these developments are so depressing. I live in Sydney Australia, the ONLY way I will ever be able to afford a house here will be if I am on $100k a year wages and so is my partner. Otherwise it's impossible. I'm renting an apartment at the moment for $650 a week and the value of the place is $1.3m... Nuts.
In about 10 to 20 years there’s going to be tons of houses in that area and theres going be restaurants and stuff it’s going to be small town that Disney controls in its borders
Trade in that $20,000 family vacation at Disney for a $6,000 one at Universal. Buy Disney stock with the left over $14,000 and watch it grow to $100,000 in 10 years. You can now have 4 or 5 Disney Vacations....
Golden Oaks should mean that there should be more parks already with fewer lines, if you are going to Disney World. Along with better designed additions to the parks. This shows what a terrible job the parks division at Disney is doing lately. If Disney doesn't improve parks soon & how they design new ones, then I guess Universal Studios will be come the average person's preferred amusement park in the future........I love Disneyland & world, but I mean look at Harry Potter World, Jurassic World expansions, and future Mario Worlds. They are lightyears better than StarWars land & I'm an avid Star Wars fan!
And they will all mostly sit empty, they are investment properties that are just made to sit and build value because of the land they sit on. These houses will barely, if at all, see a family living inside them.
I must have missed a detail RE the four seasons. Last I checked prices were just under $1000 per night. Yes a lot but the video, I believe, stated that cheapest room was $5000 per night which is vastly different.
@@MattGarcia I guess if you want sprawling land and to be by yourself you don’t buy in Disney world. And I’m sure these million dollar homes act more as a vacation spot instead of a day to day home.
@@saljablo2767 Good point, indeed the small plots could be easily overlooked if the houses had more charm. It's really how sterile and non-descript the houses look that feels a bit non-Disney.
You know it does not look that different than many other new upper middle class subdivisions in the US. Just a little bit bigger. You could get the same thing in other areas for maybe $500 thousand dollars.
"just off the Osceola parkway!" goodness. to imagine that Osceola, the brave leader of the Seminole native people, who fought against American greed, racism, and genocide, and who was lied to under a false flag of truce by the American government, left to die, and his head stolen by a member of the military as a souvenir--THAT Osceola's name is how the ultra-wealthy now get to their caricatured properties in his own homeland, the land he died defending, where the world's richest live out all those things Osceola and his people fought to oppose. It's all so twisted I can't wrap my head around it.
Uh...the Seminole tribe now owns the Hard Rock Cafe franchise and they built a huge glass guitar-shaped hotel in Hollywood, Florida at their mega-casino complex. They got their start with their small bingo house and then opened a poker room and now they own Hard Rock internationally and are making a killing. But all that was only made possible by doing business with and permission by the big Chicago mafia boys.
For the money I would expect the houses to be interesting. That style of home is the current trend. I would rather Disney was selling their old House of the Future.
As a kid I always thought of Disney as expensive. When you told kids you went they were in awe. Now this is a bit crazy but...come on they have always been pricey.
It is not that Disney has got more expensive it is that purchasing power has got a lot lower. I remember my uncle telling me that it use to cost $5 to get into Disneyland in the 1960s. To have the same level of income today to match that a person would need to earn about $300,000 per year.
@@bighands69 I'm 44 years old. I'm not talking about now. I'm literally saying it's always been expensive imo. The fact that it is more expensive now is not part of what I'm talking about. I'm not interested in having a political econ conversation with you.
@@goldiefatale I was talking about a person having to earn $300,000 per year today to have the same purchasing power as somebody did in the mid 1960s. Back then an American could buy a Buick which would have been on par with a Mercedes for about $3000 to $4000. That is not the case today.
It's like watching a train wreck in super slow motion. They fail to meet expectations of the average guest and they have an unhappy guest. They fail to meet the expectations of the Uber wealthy and they have a giant lawsuit. Real smart fellas.
I cannot imagine the Size of the HOA rules and regs and the sheer amount of. “ nope, you cannot do that either”. How horrible it would be to have to drive THROUGH Disney twice a day to get to your job, shopping and general errands. Nope. I prefer my freedom
Beautiful homes, at ridiculous prices! And everything steeped in "Disney" flavour, ugh...that would get tired quickly! What about new art ideas, meeting people of all walks of life, helping the less fortunate? Not at Disney, it seems.
Really they just made more real estate investments, which is really ironic to me. I thought the point of having homes near Disney world was just so you could visit Disney world often, but knowing how real estate works probably nobody actually lives in these homes, they're just there to be sold to the next investor looking to make a profit.
Inflation hits all. People who have spare money buy everything. Cars, Jewelry, Watches, houses, gold coints, luxury clothing and everything else they think will save their wealth from inflation.
I worked for a contractor at Disney back in 2006 and the partner at the firm told me they were going to build that swamp land near the service area into multi-million dollar homes. I said no way do people know this is a dirty mosquito infested swamp. He said if Disney builds it people will shell out millions for it.
Good grief!
But, they do it right! The mosquitos have Mickey Ears on them.
You have the wrong area. Golden Oak was built on the former Eagle Creek golf course
They also said it was part of the Four Seasons.
I live in Orlando, not exactly on this beautiful neighborhood, since 2007 and the mosquitos have been less and less every year. I don’t know why, maybe all of the construction/? Either way it’s so much nicer
I'm sorry but as a native Floridian there's nothing less luxurious than living in Orlando lol
This is not in Orlando . Where the Ghetto is at . Its in Lake Buena Vista.
Winter Park? Chain of Lakes?
You forgot right?
I agree 1000%. Lol everything in central Florida is either far as hell, busy from all the traffic, ridiculously humid cause it’s literally a swamp, or the over saturation of either tourist or people from up north or the Caribbean island. I’ve lived there for years and I couldn’t be happier not being there.
This is wisdom. Orlando is sad. Also sad are those tired ass barn doors.
Oh '' an Aristocrat ''
I watched a video about golden oak last year and the woman had a slide built into the staircase so the kids could side down it. She had a steampunk themed entertainment room as well. It was amazing but you could see the tears from the husband knowing how much it all cost!
Are you referring to this video. While, I enjoyed the tour and this is a family that has clearly embraced the idea of living in Disney. Either that or they are very good actors because they have me fooled.
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Kill the Rich
@@Viking_Luchador hater ☝️
Start with every crypto billionaire, and then move on to anyone who has ever paid for an NFT
@@Viking_Luchador im selling my nft project soon. will afford this.
I can't stop thinking about that scene from Madagascar 2 where King Julian says to Melman "could you please go back (to coach), this is first class, nothing personal, it's just that we are better than you"
I don’t mind Disney offering different experiences at wildly different price points for those who want to pay and golden oaks seems fine to me, if you’ve got the cash and you want that experience feel free no one’s stopping you. However removing perks we already have to then offer them at a markup and not caring to some of the markets that made you who you are doesn’t seem fair!
#KillTheRich
Trouble is hardly Americans buying them, most of them are foreign buyers.
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Are you sure about that. America is the wealthiest country in the world and has far more wealthy people than any other country.
@@bighands69 That wealth is only held by a very small group of people.
@@bighands69 being in debt 24 trillion does not make a country wealthy. Besides if it was so wealthy why do you have so much homeless people and people not getting proper medical care?
I was on a Caribbean cruise on Royal Caribbean in 2018 and the Scottish couple at my table said they own a home in Golden Oaks. They described their purchase within DisneyWorld. I never heard of Golden Oak until my meeting of them. They bought it for their grand children. This rich couple had diamonds in their eye glasses . They looked rich!!
Great video! Thanks!!
It is better to enjoy the money than to snort it up their noses.
A big chunk of Golden Oak’s original plat adjacent to Fort Wilderness parking and stables was transferred to an entity building the Four Seasons Residences. Those crammed together McMansions are still available to purchase. As far as Golden Oak, a few former fairways have not been built on yet, so I expect some lots will still be released to build on. The HOA total annual fee was about $43K annually in 2019. Your three price options are all required not a la carte choices. Many of the early homes were bought by global company CEO’s to bring family and grandchildren to DisneyWorld but not for full-time living. Around 2015 most of the purchases shifted to people living there full time or close to it.
It's amazing to think that when Walt Disney 'secretly' purchased the 27,000 acres of Florida
farmland, (that would eventually become Disney World), he paid between $100. to at most
$1,000. an acre in the 1960's! Today, some of that same land is appraised at millions an acre!
Golden Oaks looks great, but how many times can you go to Disney World?
Walt Disney was such a genius. He could make cheap farmland into super value land.
My grandparents sold land to them!! For nothing back then!!
@@JS-zb1vv the farming wasn’t good anymore?
@@prst99 my grandpa was a ship welder left for more money! They were poor so. Was time to go !
@@JS-zb1vv
Not for nothing.
The value today is all about the economic development that has taken place. If Disney did not buy the land and develop it the valuation would be that high but it would still be significant considering california.
Had an annual pass to Disneyland for years but the pricing is getting ridiculous and the wait times and lines stress me out not. Kinda not worth it anymore
Yeah I use to get Disney world annual weekday passes which use to be great until the "Pandemic" came. Now with some thing still closed & having to wear a mask & increased prices & getting rid of the free fast passes its so NOT WORTH IT! And I really did want to go this year during the 50th Anniversary, but just not worth it anymore. Instead I'm thinking about going to Yellowstone this year. I've been there a few times before & its a great place to visit.
Huge FOMO - both financially & otherwise - on these properties. So beautiful but these properties are already out of most of our price ranges & will only get worse. Insanity.
I don't "get" the Disney obsession of so many people...as for the high priced offerings, if people will pay them Disney management is obligated to their shareholders to charge them.
Disneyland and Disney world are cool to take the kids to. Many adults have a nostalgia for Disney.
If Warner had a brain they could easily do the same thing. There are many other successful parks as well.
I went out with a Disney freak who worked there. He talked me into going and on the drive o we be asked me what the first thing is I wanted to do, I jokingly said , " can I punch Mickey in the face?" He got actually mad and said I had disrespected Mickey Mouse. I was like, "ok, you do realize it's a fictional character, he isn't really alive right?" We ended up having a fun time, but people get weird about it.
@@effinyu9554 first of all. Great name. I love disney. It is awesome for people who aren’t creative, outgoing, or socially sound. Disney does all of that for you. People cling to that. Sometimes, it’s the only place they feel comfortable. Nostalgia also important. They remember it as children. Perhaps their adult life sucks.
@bighand69 Warner Bros. does have four theme parks, in Australia, Spain, Thailand, and the UAE. Movie Park Germany also used to be a WB park
@@bighands69 Warner already makes bank licensing their IPs to Universal, they literally earn millions every year from the licensing of Harry Potter lands.
It is remarkable how Disney has grown, having bought out so many different companies and just expanded into so many arenas. Far beyond the original vision. It has gotten very VERY LARGE. Like the proverbial beanstalk. Or maybe the giant at the top.
Well here's to hoping there's a young thief with an axe
This was honestly a superb video. Awesome work man
Can't say I'm too surprised. The rich got richer during the pandemic, not to mention all the people who got rich during the GameStop Stock thing. And lets be honest: Who WOULDN'T want to live at Disney World?
Only those of us who used to work there.
I'm a former Disney Fan,I loved old school Disney in the early 2000s but Modern Disney sucks so much. I wouldn't want to live there.
And have daily firework sounds
I know a dude who got rich from GameStop stock, then immediately lost all his money by make poor investments lmao.
What does that even mean? I don’t think you understand what you are saying.
I love this beautiful FS resort and have stayed there many times. I was married at the property years ago and the service is the best you'll ever have in your life. It's expensive and exclusive but you're getting a service level appropriate to the cost (although it has tripled in recent years). I toured one of these homes in the very early stages of development and they are absolutely stunning and the craftsmanship is amazing. If you have the money and have worked hard to get these things, I see no problem in it. It's gorgeous!
I 1000% agree with you Dom! After 4o years of loyal service to them, they have officially priced me out. Now my entire family has annual passes to Knott's Berry Farm + water park for the same cost as a one day park ticket! Disney will only be for the wealthy and that's what they want. I'm so sorry they turned Walt's legacy into this. :(
We bought Cedar Fair Platinum pass which gets us admission to all Parks they own for $199(free parking)*. WDW tickets for the day is more expensive.
*unlimited dining was $149. Disney can't beat that!
I'd pay extra to avoid thug life and trash.
@@efaciler2462 I still see thug life and trash at Disney matter how expensive they are.
@@Martys.Corner once that Biden money runs out they will be gone
@@efaciler2462 🤦🏻♂️😂
Of course an HOA is involved
Pretty much everywhere in Florida these days.
I'm never ever going to live in Golden Oak cause I can't afford it but I don't hate people who can afford it. They don't count my money so I won't count theirs.
For me I'm not giving Disney anymore of my money. Was going to go this year but all the decisions last year from eliminating Magic Express, magic hours discounted and replaced with substandard early morning hours (and extra hours for people in the rich resorts), the introduction of Disney Genie...just to much. There is more then enough other experiences out there that will be just as (or more) fulfilling and cost a fraction of the amount.
I've never been a fan of Disney and growing up my parents never took me there. Instead, we went to Europe and Italy a few times and visited cool places in the US. I would say it is much better than walking around a resort for a week
Good choice. Just went to Disneyland at the end of January. The Genie+/Lightning Lane destroys your visit if you're a regular person who doesn't want to pay the extra upcharges. Added at least 20-40 minutes to every ride, and you have to stand there and watch them let dozens of people cut the line because they paid more than you. What a terrible value to instill in children, having money makes you better than other people.
@@ChurchofCthulhu Yeah, the entire experience has been so diminished. It'll be some time before I do a week long Disney trip again.
As far as the price of the deluxe rooms, at times with the discounts you can get one for less a night than a moderate. In particular, Old Key West, Saratoga Springs, and Animal Kingdom Lodge. Not that the changes are exactly something people like, but you can get a room in that tier for less than you'd think.
@@andromedaspark Yeah I get that but it seems like it's one hit after the other. Plus I just don't like that Disney took away Magic hours which were a huge perk of staying on property. Those 3 hour night time magic hours were so much fun.
“To all who come this happy place, [especially those who have VIP access], welcome.” I gave 10 years of my life working for the company and they were just starting this project when I moved on. I cherished Disney all through my childhood and as a young adult graduating through college. Disney most certainly helped to advance my career and I always thought I’d retire as a Disney cast member. But like many other companies, it’s not the 1960s anymore- benefits mostly suck, and pay is low even in management. I remember I got to witness firsthand how Disney bulked up an entire department designed to cater to this wealthy segment of American society. And I get it, It’s easy to be upset over this direction but you gotta remember Disney is just responding to how American and global societies have changed. Walt Disney lived through a period where there was much more economic egalitarianism than there is today. Profit sharing, pensions and benevolent bosses have long faded. This approach to running a business or dare I say..a government is considered Marxist aka communist nowadays. The baby boomers don’t realize just how good they had it.
Oh yes we do. 😐
Nah, most of them did. That's exactly why they allowed and voted for and continue to vote for policies that raise that ladder up behind them further and further away from younger generations.
The future of humanity as a whole is bleak.
Boomers wanted the good times to never end so continuously voted for policies and encouraged practices they thought would continue making them prosper. But as a result, every company now focuses on solely maximizing profits, workers be damned.
Kinda crazy that you could basically develop a home a few miles outside of property for the same price but have tons of more land and quality
Paying for the name duh 🙄
@Mirror Kilroy location not name. Disney write their name on all kinds of shit. Why would anyone want to live in the middle of that circus anyway. Hell.
@@ph-vf5hx because it’s a cult duh 🙄
Those properties are holiday homes for wealthy people and it gives them access to Disney at the heart of the action.
It would be nice to take the kids there for summer even though the places are getting a little bit too crazy.
its all about the brand, you can build a copy but you wont have the brand
Well Walt Disney created Disneyland so he could enjoy the Park with his daughters. Much of his inspiration came from his early years with his daughters in taking them to Griffin Park in Los Angels and watching his daughters ride the merry-go-round without his participation. So he created Disneyland where the whole family could injoy the "Happiest Places on Earth," Not much left of that here in Golden Oaks or just about any Disney Inc. enterprise including the Parks today. So Sad, that is change for you.
There is simply not enough Disney Parks in America and population of California has gone from 13 million in the mid 1950s to 40 million in 2022.
When I took the children to Disneyland in the 1990s it was busy but nothing compared today. They needs a few more locations throughout America to deal with the American population but also to deal with foreign tourists. Legoland is crazy as well in California. American states need to build a few more new cities to help relieve their population pressures.
@@bighands69 The world needs to depopulate not increase global warming from pointless construction.
Nice video. No matter how luxurious a community is, nothing can equal the love and company of friends and family. Solomon said it best: "Vanity...all is vanity" (Ecclesiastes). The housing reviewed cannot bring true joy, not for a sustained period.
I do; however, feels badly about the high prices of the parks as many families can no longer easily afford a Disney Vacation...or a day at the ballpark. Your advice is excellent- responding with grace and dignity is a worthy goal.
I loved this video!!! I guess for many it would be a pleasure to say that you have and/or live in a house in Walt Disney World grounds. Like pretty much everything else that Disney does; like Celebration and Golden Oak community they are built to perfection. But I wonder if seeing how Disney initially intended to construct 450 homes and it was reduced to 300 are they going to reconsider using the same top builders and build the remaining 150 homes seeing how fast the homes were sold out.
Also, I heard allegedly Disney is also considering building a gated community consisting 6000 homes within Sunbridge Florida. Hopefully they do build the 55+ neighbourhood similar to Golden Oak and/or Celebration with the same top builders and they use single level floor plans similar to The Villages in Florida's Designer Homes and Premier Homes. As I have stated before pretty much everything that Disney has done when it comes to real estate like their homes at Celebration and the Golden Oak community are build to perfection. Again, I reiterate building the 55+ neighbourhood community similar to Golden Oak and/or Celebration with the same top builders with home plans that combine the best elements of Golden Oak Disney and/or Celebration with The Villages in Florida single floor Premier Homes planes IMHO would be amazing.
Celebration, was NOT "built to perfection."
Excellent closing lines in this current world of turmoil. A message to make people think. Thank you
Certainly would make for a fantastic weekender and portfolio addition (holiday letting could prove very lucrative) but I’d never consider that location for a primary residence
Four Seasons has the best character breakfast in the entire resort, IJS. You don't need to be a resident of Golden Oaks or a guest at the hotel. It's actually more affordable than the offerings everywhere else, too.
@Universal Dorks, indeed! The Four Season Character Breakfast is on my ‘Must Do’ List the next time I’m near WDW!🥳😉
We ate there, it was the best breakfast we ever had!
So true we had the best time there we ended up switching to the four seasons for that reason
Hope it comes with Lifetime Disney passes and Lifetime Food passes at any Disney Park. Up until you Resell the Home.
We're never getting a 5th gate are we?
I do not think so, seeing how not all of Disney’s property in Florida is actually available for a 5th park. Surprisingly while the entire Disney World property is very large approximately about 40 square miles (25600 acres) a lot of it is actually not suitable for building at all. Reedy Creek did an analysis of WDW undeveloped land and how much of it is sustainable for development. 2,825 acres (19.9 percent of the undeveloped land) some land is suitable for development (these are lands outside of the Conservation areas and generally above certain flood elevation levels), 2,256 acres 15.9 percent is marginally suitable for development (these are areas where development is strongly discouraged and places that would require mitigation of wetland impacts beyond what the district has already arranged for), and 9,093 acres 64.2 percent is unsuitable for development (this includes wetlands below a certain flood elevation level and all Conservation Areas - Disney set aside part of the Disney World property for conservation many years ago). Seeing how as I stated in another comment that Disney's Golden Oak is 980 acres. To put that in perspective, the Magic Kingdom is approximately 107 acres, Hollywood Studios is approximately 135 acres, and Epcot is approximately 300 acres. Meaning this neighbourhood is almost twice the size of those three parks combined. Also Disney's Animal Kingdom is the largest theme park in the world and covers 580 acres; so it’s likely much easier and more cost-effective to just create an expansion rather than build an entirely new park from scratch. Yes expansions can come with their own challenges due to that existing infrastructure, but the challenges for a small expansion are likely less than the challenges would be for an entirely new park. Granted I know there are other factors involved but if WDW really wanted to build a 5th gate park. Disney need to take some ideas from two parks in Europe one is Efteling which 180 acres in the Netherlands and Phantasialand in Brühl (Rhineland) which is 69 acres. Both of these parks have limited space but managed to pack much into such a small space while many of Disney's newer attractions require massive plots of land and enormous show buildings of mostly empty space. For example Phantasialand loops rides over and under guest areas to maximize the buildable area--even when literally right next to a residential housing area! Secondly, Phantasialand and Efteling demonstrates the timeless magic of original storytelling and unique theming. The park excels precisely because it isn't held back by a need to incorporate existing IP into everything. Just like Space Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean, the Haunted Mansion, and Big Thunder Mountain are still just as popular today as they were when they first opened, Phantasialand's and Efteling's themed areas and attractions have been future-proofed and this is what a WDW fifth gate needs to build in a new park.
As nice as those homes are and as much as I would love to effectively live at Disney World, I could never justify spending that much money even if I had it. I would, however, live to be invited to an open house or party at one lol.
Those houses aren't nice, they're ultra-cheap. The buyers are suckers. Do a deep dive on Disney's Sunshine City (where t=The Truman Show was filmed). People paid thru the nose to live there and it was total and utter junk. U think this place will be any better?
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Ultra cheap?
What planet are you living on.
The price of the house is OK but the other Fees are just unbelievable 😳
I hate rich people. All this opulent living is just a huge bragging platform. It’s disgusting and I hope these huge corporations suffer the consequences one day…
06:11 Thats one well practised and totally ingenuous smile right there.
These things are always amazing when done right but for 99% of us it’s an aspirational if I won the lottery situation. I think this is the least of the problems with the Disney companies current moves considering they appear to be tarnishing their brand with 1000 cuts across different areas. As always the cast members and support are the best part of the company while the executives seem entirely out of touch which was not always the case. It will be interesting to see if they adjust at all or just keep plowing ahead despite social media being flooded with people unhappy by changes.
Wouldn't matter if I was loaded. I wouldn't give Disney my money. They left staff they paid off during the pandemic with nowhere to live. Some were living out of their cars. There were people raising money to feed them, meanwhile Disney were paying millions to their executives. THEY didn't suffer, that's for sure!
Left the company after 4 years, after they asked me to move from CA to FL. Thanks, but no thanks. Haven't slept better since that resignation. Lots of very miserable folks working for the company, after the new, greedy CEO took over.
It's a sad story of where we're at as a society: the rich have gotten *so* wealthy at this stage that they're just finding random stupidly expensive things to sink more money into, pure Gilded Age status symbol seeking. I'd shrug it off, but all the care that went into Golden Oak stands in stark contrast to the sheer lack of effort, creativity, and inspiration currently infecting stateside Disney parks, as well as the unvarnished greed on display as Disney rakes in record revenues yet insists on cutting perks, raising prices, and icing regular park-goers out of "premium events" with markups, yet another avenue for the super-wealthy to throw their ill-gotten gains around to guarantee that they won't have to rub elbows with us lowly middle classers or, God forbid, the poors. Don't actually have scarcity and exclusivity? Just artificially create some!
This is *everywhere* now, not just Disney. Film studios, video game developers, every business you can think of is moving away from providing fans and the general public a product people can actually use, interact with, or simply enjoy and moving towards exclusively catering to the wealthy and to other large companies. The end goal is clear: create a scenario where they can make ungodly profits *without ever having to appeal to the general public at all*. And why not? Disney can then let every ride fall into disrepair, not come up with any original attraction concepts, cut live entertainment, remove every money saving perk, but still be in the red because they'll exclusively cater to millionaires and those who are willing to scrape up years of savings just for a few days of "experiencing the magic".
And here we are, Disney knee-deep in this muck, and they're selling out at a massive pace. It's sad, but here we are.
Jeez, I bet your fun at party’s
@@mariospizzaandwinebar You're*
@@jmn327 Thank you.
We are living in the death rattle of late-stage capitalism.
@@joelwillis2043 No, but we are due for a huge change and it is coming. Capitalism in another form will rise. You cannot take away our inherent programming--greed, betterment over others, and want. It just needs to be put in check now and then. Disney is greed and krap-scatter intensified and Walt is definitely spinning in his grave.
Whoever gets the landscape architecture contract on this I am jealous of you
Anyone else think the houses look like tacky modern houses … like definitely not worth the millions ….. Some of it is just so ugh
I'm in the process of building the interior of one now! All the walls ceilings and interior arches as well as the arches leading to the patios.
Over 17000 sq/ft. under roof
Huge FOMO here, just in case I ever win the lottery. If I have had the money back in the day, I would have bought tons of these houses. It was absolutely clear that these houses will all quadruple in worth.
Yes. I looked at the Golden Oaks website in 2015 or so and I believe some of the models then were available for less than a million. But that was still out of our budget. I really really would like one of these homes but not as primary residence. The ambiance just seems so nice and yes, I used to enjoy our family vacation at WDW. I am originally from Eastern Germany and lived there during a time when the wall still separated the country. We were so poor at some point that being hungry was normal. Going on a vacation to WDW is still bringing tears because I know the hurdles and hard work it took to make it possible. We’re not wealthy though and Disney is pricing us out.
I don’t, however envy those who are able to afford to live there. I’ve never envied the rich but I am super curious on how to perhaps be able to afford a house in Golden Oaks myself 🙂🙂
Good luck by the way on your journey to maybe own one of these houses 🙂🙂
Honestly seems like heaven to me! Just beautiful.
I loved the rustic looking French provincial on the most!
The Four Seasons is not $5,000 per night. I believe it’s $1,000-$2,000. Not that I would pay that to stay in Orlando but it is lower than what was stated in the vid.
Honestly sounds like quite the deal for a place like these! its no wonder they sold out. especially if youre allowed to rent out the home, such as airbnb. Then you could pretty much use that income to make the home pay for itself. I used to build homes in the ultra exclusive private ski and golf club called the Yellowstone Club in Big Sky Montana. Its a members only - by invitation ski resort with a golf course and outdoor recreations in summer. Members include Bill Gates, Steve Wynn, Tom Brady, Matt Damon, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher, some of wall streets biggest hedge fund managers. Membership is limited to less than 750 households. Our cheapest places were what most in the club referred to as "kids condos"... 750 sq ft studios in the main lodge that members would often buy for their grown up children. Price tag on those 750 sq ft studios? 4.5 million.. townhomes started from about mid 7 million to 14 million and homes starting at about 10 million but most were in the 20 million range with some, such as the CEO of GoPro cameras, Nick Woodman's place built for upwards of 80 million. And the real estate couldnt sell faster or be in higher demand. Though its scarcity and exclusivity largely plays into that, it is still surprising how many people in the world have the type of money to afford real estate like that.. It is some incredible real estate, i had the pleasure of overseeing construction of this beautiful home theprggroup.com/projects#gallery-452-1
And the sizes of the lands were never mentioned.
$5000??? Stayed at other four seasons at that price for a week not a day. This is all so ridiculous. Not saying that 5K for anything isn’t ridiculous but they just slap the Disney brand and it’s suddenly so much worse.
The allure is the exclusivity of it all. Our "social betters" want to have a vacation where they never have to actually interact with any of us "regular" people, so they'll drop tens of thousands on a damn hotel for a few nights just to guarantee they're breathing rarified air. It's borderline dystopian.
He lied. A room at the four seasons is not $5000 a night. He have you the price of the highest suite. A regular room is just over a thousand a night. Still expensive but so is the Hilton if you only have a red roof inn budget
@@recoveringfatboy5660 Considering he never said that’s what a regular room costs, he didn’t lie.
@@jmn327 he said a room will cost you $5000 a night. It’s a misleading statement
@@recoveringfatboy5660 He specifies what kind of room, doesn’t just say a generic room.
I heard about Disney’s Golden Oak Gated Community a few years ago, I was shocked I never knew these estates existed.
So when is the other "Pop Resort" coming out for the "commoners" so it can "balance" it out? I'm sure those mansions have "lifetime" passes to the park. In small print says for a small annual fee. LOL!
@Michael Taylor, lol indeed my friend! 😉 How about those same value resorts requiring $800+/night? Sure, they are not close to the $5,000/night at the luxurious Four Seasons, but soon the value resorts will no longer be considered a value!😜😜
Actually you still have to pay for the resort tickets.. you're just buying a house with no real perks. Meanwhile, you can buy a house with land for under 400k just a couple of miles outside of Disney like I did. I rent it out as a short term vacation rental for those who are sick of getting nothing from the Disney resorts 👍
@@mickeysmyspiritanimal223 "Value" resorts haven't been a real value for years especially since perks are mostly gone. Cheaper to stay off WDW property for a better room that's usually nicer with more amenities than the abused rooms in WDW. Other than Shades of Green, my last trip staying on property was April 2018. That's when variable paid parking started! For property paid for in the 1960s! Developed as parking in a place that has no shortage of land. Oh of course the parking is no different from Grand Foridian than at All Stars and you still walk so far at both.
There will never be another Park @WDW. Bob's been busy with ever increasing DVC and residential construction/sales.
do these homes have dungeons?
I would have bought that property but I'm 16 milllion dollars short.
I'm fortunate to have been to Disney twice over a decade ago now. I'm glad to idk if I'll ever be able to go back due to prices
$5000 a night, and folks complain about the star cruiser hotel is pricey. at least the Halcyon comes with story, food, drink and park admissions. the houses look nice but $8M is such a crazy price point. do the folks get annual park passes for that price? I guess if folks can afford a house like that they probably do the VIP day at disney with all the behind the scenes and fast pass rides
Disney feels like that childhood friend who grew up, got rich and snobby and now hangs out with other rich people and is too good to be seen with me.
agreed
I don’t really care about golden Oakes. The thought of living next to a huge theme park doesn’t appeal to me. I lived by the beach in a popular tourist destination here in Victoria. It was a nightmare. It doesn’t matter how gated and protected it is. The sounds of guests and the fireworks will get old really quickly. As for the prices. That’s their choice. If they want to up the prices that’s fine. I have my nose pointed towards Tokyo and have started referring to it as my home park. Why go all the way to California or Florida when Tokyo Disney is right there. But. I’m an Aussie so my view on this is VERY different to those of my friends on both coasts. They aren’t happy with the price hikes.
Disney announced just this week they are developing a 618 acre residential community near Palm Springs. So I guess they're in the residential construction business now.
I prefer the mountain's. A log cabin with a fire in the fireplace on a cold evening. Watching and listening to the wildlife. No noisy neighbors and a river for my back yard. Yeah that's my home. I live in the mountains now. Wonderful life.
All you can do is stop giving Disney your hard earned money.
Plain and Simple.
Would I pay these prices for this? No. Do I understand the need for it? Yes. Here is how I look at it. If Disney said they were going to build 2000 new homes in a neighborhood, the demand would still be high. Supply and demand is how homes are priced. Anyone who says that its greedy of Disney or any of these home owners, I ask this.... If you were given one of these homes for free, lets say in a contest, would you sell it for asking, or would you take the highest bidder? You most likely would take the highest offer.. that is how real estate works. People complain when they cant have something that they want. Can I afford these homes, no, but I would love to have one, even if I cant afford the annual HOA dues. Not because of the price, but because these are beautiful homes, with gorgeous manicured landscapes. Its the same argument with people who hate HOAs. You pay for a product and you get what you want. Until we live in a cash free society, where everyone respects the land and property, then we unfortunately will have expensive neighborhoods with wealthy people living behind gates.
Shriek Called It! LOL
You can pick up a resale for a cool $16,385,000.00 which is still available I think x
Giant houses with no yards, they're practically built on top of each other. They're just flashy mcmansions for tasteless out of state rich people.
I wonder how many of them sit empty for long stretches of time while their owners treat them like vacation properties instead of homes....while disney parks still have homeless employees.....hmmmmm
When you build nice things for rich people on the best, most-coveted location in the state, of course it will eventually be sold out!
Who bought these houses and why?
Is there any clause that says you can’t just airbnb is out? Cause that sounds like free money if you can buy one
The houses themselves are a ripoff for $8 million, you're paying for the name and location.
These are absolutely stunning. ❤️
We are all just mere passengers here on Earth. We don’t “own” anything and everything is temporary. The greatest wealth is health, friends and family. Enjoy those gifts while you can
Its basic stuff. I found even playing planet coaster that you reached point where the popularity of your park will kill your park. Queue lines get too long people get pissed off. So you have to raise your prices to reduce your numbers. It’s almost a formula price hick reduces guest numbers but then you most improve quality if there not balance the whole thing fall’s apart.
Being one of those kids whose parent's didn't buy a house these developments are so depressing. I live in Sydney Australia, the ONLY way I will ever be able to afford a house here will be if I am on $100k a year wages and so is my partner. Otherwise it's impossible. I'm renting an apartment at the moment for $650 a week and the value of the place is $1.3m... Nuts.
In about 10 to 20 years there’s going to be tons of houses in that area and theres going be restaurants and stuff it’s going to be small town that Disney controls in its borders
Omg if I ever won the lottery I would so buy one of those houses ,absolutely beautiful
Trade in that $20,000 family vacation at Disney for a $6,000 one at Universal. Buy Disney stock with the left over $14,000 and watch it grow to $100,000 in 10 years. You can now have 4 or 5 Disney Vacations....
Genius comment.
Even if I could afford this I wouldn't
didnt they just release plans for a neighborhood in palm springs, CA?
This video played a Disney+ ad before the content.
Why should Disney go through the trouble of building mansions when they can just “stream” past content for 1,000,000x the profit?
Stupidity, it’s rich! Evidently!
Golden Oaks should mean that there should be more parks already with fewer lines, if you are going to Disney World. Along with better designed additions to the parks. This shows what a terrible job the parks division at Disney is doing lately.
If Disney doesn't improve parks soon & how they design new ones, then I guess Universal Studios will be come the average person's preferred amusement park in the future........I love Disneyland & world, but I mean look at Harry Potter World, Jurassic World expansions, and future Mario Worlds. They are lightyears better than StarWars land & I'm an avid Star Wars fan!
Truly insane. Wealth inequality today is out of control.
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And they will all mostly sit empty, they are investment properties that are just made to sit and build value because of the land they sit on. These houses will barely, if at all, see a family living inside them.
“8 million dollars is a bargain”
Are you Elon musk or Jeff Bazos?
Imagine what the rules are in that neighborhood are like.
There are neighborhoods there that you can rent houses for great prices for week long trips. Just like these houses.
8 million for that is cheap.
I must have missed a detail RE the four seasons. Last I checked prices were just under $1000 per night. Yes a lot but the video, I believe, stated that cheapest room was $5000 per night which is vastly different.
He said cheapest king room but even still I think that may be inaccurate
Am I the only one who thinks those houses look a bit nondescript instead of truly beautiful and unique?
They also are super crowded together like more common macmansions usually are.
@@MattGarcia I guess if you want sprawling land and to be by yourself you don’t buy in Disney world. And I’m sure these million dollar homes act more as a vacation spot instead of a day to day home.
@@saljablo2767 Good point, indeed the small plots could be easily overlooked if the houses had more charm. It's really how sterile and non-descript the houses look that feels a bit non-Disney.
You know it does not look that different than many other new upper middle class subdivisions in the US. Just a little bit bigger. You could get the same thing in other areas for maybe $500 thousand dollars.
"just off the Osceola parkway!" goodness.
to imagine that Osceola, the brave leader of the Seminole native people, who fought against American greed, racism, and genocide, and who was lied to under a false flag of truce by the American government, left to die, and his head stolen by a member of the military as a souvenir--THAT Osceola's name is how the ultra-wealthy now get to their caricatured properties in his own homeland, the land he died defending, where the world's richest live out all those things Osceola and his people fought to oppose. It's all so twisted I can't wrap my head around it.
Uh...the Seminole tribe now owns the Hard Rock Cafe franchise and they built a huge glass guitar-shaped hotel in Hollywood, Florida at their mega-casino complex. They got their start with their small bingo house and then opened a poker room and now they own Hard Rock internationally and are making a killing. But all that was only made possible by doing business with and permission by the big Chicago mafia boys.
@@inquisitor4635 reading comprehension is shot here, so I'm gonna ask. where the fuck is Osceola in all of that lmao
Walt Disney had planned to build homes a whole community at Epcot. It’s a very interesting story.
They look fantastic, I doubt they will be nearly as expensive in the coming years
For the money I would expect the houses to be interesting. That style of home is the current trend. I would rather Disney was selling their old House of the Future.
Yes, they are so boring.
As a kid I always thought of Disney as expensive. When you told kids you went they were in awe. Now this is a bit crazy but...come on they have always been pricey.
It is not that Disney has got more expensive it is that purchasing power has got a lot lower. I remember my uncle telling me that it use to cost $5 to get into Disneyland in the 1960s.
To have the same level of income today to match that a person would need to earn about $300,000 per year.
@@bighands69 I'm 44 years old. I'm not talking about now. I'm literally saying it's always been expensive imo. The fact that it is more expensive now is not part of what I'm talking about. I'm not interested in having a political econ conversation with you.
@@bighands69 and side note 5 bucks is worth about 50 bucks now..not 300k.
@@goldiefatale
It was considered great value for money in the past.
@@goldiefatale
I was talking about a person having to earn $300,000 per year today to have the same purchasing power as somebody did in the mid 1960s.
Back then an American could buy a Buick which would have been on par with a Mercedes for about $3000 to $4000. That is not the case today.
i don't think these are intended as permanent residences
5K a night for Four Seasons is....bonkers
Are they all going to be air bnbs?
It's like watching a train wreck in super slow motion.
They fail to meet expectations of the average guest and they have an unhappy guest. They fail to meet the expectations of the Uber wealthy and they have a giant lawsuit.
Real smart fellas.
I cannot imagine the Size of the HOA rules and regs and the sheer amount of. “ nope, you cannot do that either”. How horrible it would be to have to drive THROUGH Disney twice a day to get to your job, shopping and general errands. Nope. I prefer my freedom
Beautiful homes, at ridiculous prices! And everything steeped in "Disney" flavour, ugh...that would get tired quickly! What about new art ideas, meeting people of all walks of life, helping the less fortunate? Not at Disney, it seems.
Really they just made more real estate investments, which is really ironic to me. I thought the point of having homes near Disney world was just so you could visit Disney world often, but knowing how real estate works probably nobody actually lives in these homes, they're just there to be sold to the next investor looking to make a profit.
Tacky
Inflation hits all. People who have spare money buy everything. Cars, Jewelry, Watches, houses, gold coints, luxury clothing and everything else they think
will save their wealth from inflation.