**ANNOTATIONS AND CORRECTIONS** - It's not 100% true that the red and blue color receptors don't overlap but those overlapped areas only occur where green ALSO overlaps. I thought explaining this in the video would make everything to complicated, so I left my explanation a bit oversimplified. - One more thing I over-simplified: the definition of extra-spectral colors. There's a lot of debate about what constitutes extra-spectral and I couldn't get much in the way of reliable conclusions on the subject, so for the purposes of this video I'm assuming colors like brown do have a wavelength of around 620nm while colors like magenta do not have a wavelength at all. This is not 100% accurate (in regards to brown) as this depends very much on the shade, but it's like, 80% true enough for the purposes of video game lore... but if there's a physicist in the comments, I'm all ears. - Lotuses come in far more colors than the four listed in the video. The four I listed are mostly the ones with the most mythological or cultural significance.
Color is complicated. I encourage everyone here to watch The surprising pattern behind color names by Vox (edit: I think this explains the brown), and do a bit of digging about why primary colours we learned about in school r kinda wrong (n why printers don't use blu, red n yellow which r supposed to be primary colours).
The mudd from the chasm had also that magenta coloring... Side note, can magenta be conected to the abiss? We see one of the snakes' eyes glow in magenta in the battle pass trailer. Amazing video like always :) love ya
maybe magenta is more so meant to represent the *absence* of time. Then the teal color of anemo being connected to time works better, since magenta and teal are sort of inverted from each other. Also, magenta is used for the corruption of Dvalin, and that freaky upside down statue. If magenta represents just "absence", then it makes sense being connected to the Abyss faction.
The Hydro vishaps in enkanomiya were bred to be able to use cryo or electro, but couldnt be bred to use pyro, but if we use the color wheel, their breeding caused them to shift up or down the light spectrum of elements by one spot but couldnt shift them all the way to pyro. Also yellow is not just the traveler golden mode element but also the "color" of "physical" damage which might mean theres more to physical damage than meets the eye.
Ik we shouldn't trust gameplay for theories but Eula makes a frozen cryo grim heart that holds physical dmg which then explodes 5 seconds after you burst. I always thought it was interesting how she was avle to do that and was glad that she wasn't the only one when Layla came out 💜
In Alhaithem’s teaser, he talks about absence of things (in writing) and basically importance of "negative space"/things that aren't recorded/questions. It sounds to me like "absence of green" in creating magenta is exactly the same thing as negative space/questions Alhaithem speaks about. Edit: 0:53 in Alhaithem's teaser
Love the fact you pointed out the connections to istaroth and the horns on Nilous outfit previously since wanderer has those horns on his LOTUS hat and I think that's a lil sus 👀
Fun fact i guess : HP Lovecraft's popular book "The Colour Out of Space" shows a meteorite falling and emitting "strange colour that is outside of the visible spectrum". Since it's cosmic horror, the readers could imagine whatever colour they wanted. However, when movie adaptations came for this story,all the directors would use Magenta to describe the alien colour using the same logic that ashikai has mentioned. So, Magenta:Aliens...Genshin:Descenders...checks out lol
@@elainasynranelt latest one was in 2019 with Nicholas Cage. I think they were trying to establish a Lovecraft cinematic universe like MCU but the film didn't get much reception
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SO MUCH SENSE????!!!! Side note: didn’t the Buddha also attain enlightenment while seated under a tree? (Correct me if I’m wrong) And in the Goddess of Flowers’ eternal oasis we can clearly see a tree as the centerpiece and there was the connection with pink (magenta) lotuses and the Buddha as well which can be found in the oasis… Now I’m not saying that the Goddess of Flowers is the Buddha in Genshin, but it might be an interesting connection (if I remembered the tree thing correctly, that is)
If indeed the game devs included the color theory aside from incorporating mythology, cultural aspects and themes, then i think this game is insane in terms of its foundation.
I'm so excited to see this topic! The sunsets in Genshin are really ...unique. It kept catching my eye but I didn't know what to make of it... I wanted to offer one more clue about the color pink: the in-game material "horsetail" is magenta. It's not considered a "local specialty" of Liyue and isn't used for much (only creating fly "bait" for fishing really). Each nation, like the elements, has 7 local specialties. horsetail is *not* one of them. Also, when I first started playing the game, picking horsetail in the marsh, a lady NPC commented that the horsetail was supposed to capture the color of the sunset but she has never seen one the color of the sunset. (I can't find the quote but trust me it bothered me at the time. I kept thinking so the sky is unseeable? are NPCs color blind?) Anyway, magenta is connected to the color of the sky (light) and the game KNOWS IT. I don't know what this proves, but I feel vindicated! lol
In Chinese, magenta is 洋紅色. The "洋" character has a lot of meanings depending on usage and context. Such as: foreign, vast, ocean, onion. "紅" is red and "色" is color. Foreign red color Vast red color Ocean red color Onion red color The first one makes the most sense.
Adding on.. The context of the word "洋“ in the term "magenta", might comes from the term 洋人, which refers anyone who travelled across the ocean (海洋). In most case, that is an umbrella term which refers to the white skinned people, westerners aka the North Americans or Europeans. Magenta is a colour created by the europeans, and probably brought in by them as well. Someone living back in those days might look at it and goes "Hmm, new color. Let's call it the westerner's red." So foreign red colour is the one which makes the most sense under that list of yours.
funny enough, the "onion red colour" translation also makes sense, since the only kind of onions that we have in genshin are red onions (normal ones irl come in red, white, and yellow, with the usual colour being white)... and red onions are really more close to magenta than red red
If we look at how most of the abyss/forbidden knowledge related stuff is either magenta or a really dark shade of it (dark mud, miasmic tumor etc), could that be a reference to "knowledge from beyond 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘴"?
It's weird how Magenta is connected to the sky. As one commenter said, horsetails are supposed to capture the color of the sunset yet the NPC has never seen a sunset of that color a.k.a. Magenta. The Archaic Stone is partly magenta with the description: "The ore itself has incredible clarity and its colors are dazzling, almost seeming to glow with an inner light that brings out its blue-violet beauty, which is like the distant and lovely sunset sky." Everlasting Moonglow is a magenta weapon, "A string of lovely jasper from the deep sea. It shines with a pure radiance like that of the moon (just like the Archaic Stone), and just as ever-distant(distant and lovely sunset sky)." Magenta = Moon and Sky = Three Moon Sisters = Istaroth The original Padisarahs were magenta, which are closely related to Istaroth. (crack connection: magenta = sunset and moon, sunset = setting of sun and rising of moon perhaps further connecting Magenta to Istaroth) The Amakumo Fruit, a magenta fruit, in Japanese is directly translated to the "Sky Cloud Grass Fruit". Electro also comes in, Purple is closest to Magenta (Time). Lightning is directly correlated to clouds, the sky. Naku Weed another slightly magenta plant, "the Naku Weed grows strongly in areas saturated with Electro energy. Due to its great affinity for lightning, it is often used by residents to predict storms". Then, we have the Sakura Trees and the Irminsul which have pink/magenta leaves. If we go with Ashikai's theory that the Goddess of Flowers is in-fact the God of Time, then both the archons associated with these trees have a connection with Istaroth. Not to mention that Electro and Dendro are already heavily connected in the first place with Catalyze, dreams, time, memories, being the inverted-color versions of each other, etc. Resin is literally shaped like the Moon, a crescent being the fragile resin with a branch of an Irminsul Tree, and Condensed Resin which is a Full Moon with a whole Irminsul Tree. Transient Resin is a magenta Resin connected with time, " Pure energy that will dissipate with time. In this, it is similar to all else that is lovely in this world. But seize this opportunity and go make the world a slightly better place, as is fitting for one who dwells within the bounds of "time." " Just some connections that I found interesting.
the 'magenta' transient resin that disappears after due 'time' part was really strong and sells this theory in my book very strongly!!! i love this comment!
the magenta being the unknown future kinda reminds me of fate, because in genshin, fate is kinda how the "unknown future" represented. Like all things will eventually lead to the same outcome no matter how they change their past. Pretty cool 😳
I've always thought of fate as certain future because although small details may change, it records the outcome "written in the stars" rather than uncertainty of future. Magenta color described in the vid strikes me more as the uncertainty of future. The future thing connected to thousand winds/cyan makes me think of interconnectedness of things and butterfly effect. So butterfly effect/anemo/cyan Uncertainty/magenta/whatever goddess of flowers is Fate/yello/traveler maybe? These r all half formed ideas tho.
@@mmmgi6763 yeah that's what I was thinking too, fate is pre-determined, but there are fews that can see one's fate, so technically it is still "unknown" I also thought of the color of "Acquainted Fate" and "Intertwined Fate" and draw some theories there but who knows 🫠 maybe hoyoverse is pulling a uu pretty color go brrrrrrr
There are 2 colours of slimes, because slimes represent their elements' archons. Not the visions. The 2 slimes are supposed to represent Baal/Ei and Makoto. It wouldn't make sense for there to be yellow vision holders, because Makoto doesn't exist anymore. Plus, she used to be purple, too. But as Ei claimed the throne, she "shaded" into yellow.
WAIT!!!!! Ashikai! What if the color “yellow” refers to alchemy/khemia? There’s always been a huge connection between alchemy and gold, especially with albedo as a reference. The white could be indicative of the primordial one or the descenders. The fact that it’s the combination of all the wavelengths could be indicative of the power the traveller will eventually get when they claim all the elements. White is kinda like the light-based version of the avatar from the last air bender. It’s a combo of everything. Idk, I just had the connection between knemia and “yellow” and the primordial powers (aka chaos) by the color “white”
Considering that the primary goal of alchemy is the creation of gold, I'd say they are wery closely connected. Maybe Naberius (as in the Heart of Naberius) truly was the 8th archon and alchemy used to be their element, or maybe alchemists are trying to recreate them/their divinity with this craft. Also, if cyan is the "time" and magenta is highly likely "absence of time" what would that make yellow/gold?
On the topic of Yellow, it should be noted that electro slimes are yellow sometimes. I have no connection for this, but i thought it was worth taking note of.
@@Eclipse_IV you know, after your comment I've kinda thought about it, and well. I also wondered for the longest time, why the second slime is yellow? It doesn't need to be yellow, why not just make another violet big slime with some special markings or something. And well, maybe I am reaching too far, but if you consider it, we haven't seen many other true yellow (not geo-yellowish orange) things in genshin, aside the electro-slime, Albedo's star and ka'enriah's robots. And that's the thing: yellow/golden parts in ruin machines are the energy blocks and glowing "wiring". I am not well versed on Albedo's lore, but that star on his neck can be somewhat of an energy amplifier that helps him function. And if it's true, than yellow must be "energy". That would even line up with the "time" theory, because if cyan is the normal flow of time; and magenta is the frozen time, as in things frosen in time because the atoms are completely devoid of energy (this is what the absolute zero in kelvin is, complete lack of atomic movement) than gold/yellow can be the speed of time. That also would kinda line up with white, as yellow is the second most used color in light depiction only after white. And you know, speed of light, energy and time are kinda closely connected
the professional fade away at the end was pretty great. I paint miniatures as a hobby, been doing it for close to eight years now, and it blew my mind when I first learned that magenta didn't actually exist. you did a wonderful job explaining why that is here. incidentally, I never picked up on the color theory at play in genshin but it shouldn't surprise me that it's there, and this video certainly is an insightful bit of info. the connections your brain makes are amazing, and I will die on the hill that you need to be a story director for a game or visual novel. . .and that I wanna be on that writing team hahaha
This color theory thing is really fascinating. Also, iirc Ashikai said on one of her streams that she wrote a few books/ stories in the past, but she isn't sharing them because the books have her real name on it.
has anyone else noticed that whenever someone has time/space/memories issues (Ilyas in alhaithams story quest or even traveler heard the mysterious voice explaining the broken vase for example) they have this “static-y”/3D kinda vision?? well the two colors of the split vision are CYAN AND MAGENTA! (i think) 🤯
I feel like there is a really strong connection to the goddess of flowers and Lisa being the witch of purple rose. With Lisa’s vison being electro, her hat having a purple lotus, and her constellation being an hour glass, and that she somehow was one of the best to ever graduate from Sumeru, there has to be something there. Idk, could just be me though. Also, magenta makes me think of Yae Miko’s color of electro, and how it’s different from everyone else’s. Plus she teases that her vision is merely decoration. Do you think the different characteristics of the aura colors are related as well? Love your videos! ✨
This reminded me of honkai. Anything honkai related in honkai impact is represented with bright magenta ie. the honkai beasts, honkai energy even elysia the herrscher born pure from honkai. It made me speculate that something like the honkai exists in genshin, a force out of the power of the seven or the primordial one. Perhaps the bubble universe theory still stands and the honkai watever form or name it may be is inevitable and it will always "impact" any advancing universe in the imaginary tree
Perhaps, in the world of Genshin, Purple/Magenta can only exist "for an instant" (i.e. like a lightning bolt). Now think about why Ei focused so much on "eternity", and how the Eternal Oasis has purple/magenta flowers and is frozen in time. It's like they're trying to "stretch an instant into eternity."
"Wow learning color theory for drawing is making me stressed, how about a genshin break" *Ashikai talks about colour theory *dying inside jokes aside, i like it when there is a video that i know where or whats the inspiration/reference from i like it sm
11:00 if irminsul records 'in light' then could it be that the abyss sibling "suddenly appeared" in khaenri'ah because it was the end of their journey and they restored their powers of light/their true identity and only then were finally able to be recorded/recognized by irminsul
magenta is also the color of dvalin's tainted blood... thing that we got after we defeat him, the aura around the upside down venti statue's orb, pre-purification chasm nail and dark mud... basically, anything related to abyssal corruption seems to be magenta-colored... weird
Hrrmmmm….. that IS sus…. So either magenta stands for absence of time, unknown future, or corruption… or all of these!? (I got the two others from other comments they are not my own)
Well magenta is absence of color, amd abbyss would be absemce of light, so maybe the two are connected Then again cyan is also absence of light like magenta so thats weird
PLEASE make more videos like this, where you connect irl theories and stuff to the in game lore. I've learnt a bunch from this video. It was super interesting to watch. Also, color pink is one of my favorites, and is a bit meaningful to me because of personal reasons, so I'm glad I could learn more about it. I've heard before that the color pink doesn't really exist but never heard the explanation to why, so thanks for explaining it here haha. One more thing, I really like your videos, you always think outside of the box when it comes to making connections between lore bits and between irl information (cultures, religions, references, theories etc.). Tho I'm not invested that much into the story and lore of the game, your videos are always interesting and fun to watch! You are amazing Ashikai!
Love how all these areas of science mythology and art come together! You do a great job breaking everything down ty for sharing your interpretations and findings
Great theory, but if I were to go with the artsy explanation (as an artist) as to why Rhukadavata couldn't recreate the specific shade of purple: Purples can be a really elusive color to mix if you don't use modern synthetic pigments. If you use a classical color palette, made popular during the late 19th century and still used by most painters, you get mostly earthy looking purples. True purples and magentas are just not that common in nature. I'd assume that Rhukadavata just didn't have the right "palette" to recreate the goddess of flowers Padisaras. but that's just my mundane musings
Maybe the Heavenly Principles are kind of like UV light in this theory, which would explain how Violet/Electro is the "closest" to them. Comes with a very strong sunlight feel ascociated with it. Likewise Infrared could be associated with the Abyss in that it is most associated with seeing in darkness
You know even the wishing colors are now making me question everything we got cyan as the 3 star so maybe representing the past with so many of it magenta as the 4 stars representing the future and wouldn’t you know it the yellow is a 5 star which is extremely rare and is never represented in the primogems and fates actually it’s not even represented that much at all in the game expect you know the traveller. Also paimon is white
fun fact that I only just realised starting a new game, in german Venti calls vison bearers „Urgötter“ which is plural for „Urgott“ which means something like the original/first god and when I looked it up in the dictionary to double check, the translation I was given was primordial god
I love how confusing color actually is. Especially how perceived color (light) is quite different than what causes things to be different colour (pigment). Than there r color pigments that occur naturally and ones we think r common but wouldn't be around much unless we created them. It's one of things that is very simple unless u look into it. So fascinating.
You've never felt existential horror until you've watched a video in which Ashikai is watching a video of Ashikai, and all you can think about is the colour of Yanfei's hair
The interesting fact about electro and time is also Raiden second quest where there is a literal time confusing thing with the Sakura tree being planted in the present and in the past at the same time
This whole video just makes me think even more that Griseo is The Primordial One, each one of her signets in HI3 Elysian Realm each correspond to a color.
At this point I'm just waiting for the full connection between Honkai and Genshin to be officially revealed I've also personally noticed through ashikai' videos that the more we learn about "Forbidden Knowledge" the more it sounds like Honkai energy
@@Tfbrave EXACTLY like "Forbidden Knowledge" seems like they are tapping into the sea of quanta/Imaginary tree and getting power/knowledge from the will of honkai
@@johnathanstalker2682 not to mention the effect of the hilichurl curse has sounds an AWFUL LOT like Honkai Zombies Also a lot of people missed the fact that Durandal visited a version of SUMERU at some point- so I fully expect her to show up during our time in Sumeru at some point - even if it's only a background cameo
I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR RAMBLING VIDEOS. I thought I was interesting to point out that humans eyes split what we see between brain half’s.This means that if we look at something from the corner of our eye wille focusing from on what’s right in front of us, we get 1 input of color, if we then look at it with both eyes we get 2 inputs in the same half and because of angels, blue and red can then overlap with our green, resulting in a overload, making a small percentage of us see either infrared or ultraviolet, as pinkish.
The editing has been really good these last couple of videos. Love it. And like always, am mindblown with your explanations and how all of this makes sense
My mind is on fire and steam and smoke is literally coming out of my head I love the two top comments about magenta being the absence of time, and teal being connected to time -- the colors themselves are inverted of each other, and so perfect pairs, and opposites. We see a lot of all of that stuff during our time in Mondstadt. The other one talks about the vishaps -- which has connections to the world of Teyvat even before the archons and gods and humanity. This theory itself though?!? My brain is fried.
Fun fact: apparently we cannot see yellow, only a mix of colours making our brain see it. But the real yellow... Goldfishes have the sensors to see it. Not us
The amount of times I had to stop and say "No goddamn way-" while watching this video (a similar amount to the three parters actually) is proof that you're getting in my head with this crazy theory stuff and I love it
I'd like to point out that colors in a rainbow are a cultural construct. They're a spectrum, so the distinct colors are just how we choose to divide them. For example, indigo is only in the European rainbow because Isaac Newton thought it would be cool if there were 7 colors in the rainbow instead of 6. I don't know which colors constitute a rainbow in Chinese culture, but it could be that those colors perfectly match the 7 elements and that cyan isn't excluded.
a late reply but you are exactly right on this! in chinese, the rainbow (or well, the equivalent of english’s roygbiv) is 红 = red / pyro 橙 = orange / geo 黄 = yellow / the traveller or… mora? 绿 = green / dendro 青 = cyan / anemo 蓝 = blue / hydro 紫 = purple / electro
@@kainaxii That leaves out Cryo... but then, in Chinese it appears to be 冰 = ice, frozen water, so maybe it just counts as part of Hydro? "Light blue" isn't really a separate color from blue, anyway.
fun fact from a physics major! red light can have another peak at the wavelength of blue light (though obviously it’s main peak is in the red wavelength) so that’s why the red and blue color receptors can be triggered simultaneously!
Now this is kinda unrelated but I wanted to share. Magenta is one of the "impossible colors". If you want more detailed yet scientific explanition, go watch kyle hill's "what are impossible colors" video. It was very interesting.
this was such a cool theory! I wanted to point something out involving your connections between anemo and electro when it comes to time. There are two characters in the game who have used both anemo and electro as elements. Kazuha during his fight with Raiden and then Scaramouche used electro before getting an Anemo vision. I havnt completed the scara archon quest so I may have missed something but i just wanted to point that out lol.
How th does mihoyo make literally everything have lore implications? How much brain power do you need to take so many irl references from cultures across the world and create this level of world building in Teyvat and somehow everything seems so cohesive and be able to express it through lore text, visual art design and all other aspects of the game and make anime characters that sell for millions of dollars? How is this even possible
Firstly 🤯🤯🤯🤯 I don't know what say with the colour theory part of the video The idea of Electro having some connections to time interesting I was thinking of something similar to this as how some elements seem to have a sort of dual nature which are mostly noticable when Archons use them. Like how Ei while still using Electro can slash to space and reality, Nahida has power of dreams, wind has always been connected to time and with the Weinleza festival Venti showed that might also be able to manipulate time as he showed Razor a vision about his parents, Zhongli and Geo is the most confusing one because if we simply go of Zhongli's burst and stories about Morax he has been throwing meteors and Geo spear at people for a long time but where do those come from? Does he pull them in from outside the firmament manipulating Gravity or does he just create them from thin air ? Anyway that's my ramblings Big Brain as Always Ashikai Great Video 👍
few weeks ago i noticed Wanderer's hat has small colorful dots (yellow, orange, green, purplish and blueish) and i've been wondering what this could mean since then.
Thank you so much for this Video, Ashikai! I have a Presentation on color circles and color perception today and in all my research i never read that magenta dosent exist. Now i still have time to put it in, thanks again!!
This is mostly just me rambling. So we have three colours that don't exist according to Genshin's elements. Cyan, Yellow and Magenta. Cyan is Anaemo, having replaced yellow for some reason. Yellow is the colour of a bunch of effects in genshin like the Inazuma sword draw, Hu Tao's sprint animation, and the twins' original power. It's different from the pure white of what I theorise to be elemental energy without the elemental attunement (which, if visions act like light filters might make some sense) in some way I don't understand yet but is pretty present in game, and then we have magenta, the colour that seems tied to the Goddess of Flowers. It makes sense, three colours for three moon sisters and three fates; but phanes split into four shades; and Yellow and Cyan do exist as colours - it's only Magenta that has been completely erased; yet the Goddess of Flowers wasn't erased. Was she recreating something? If one of Phanes's four shades was erased from irminsul, having only survived in Enkanomiyan texts, then everywhere else there would only be three. Perhaps that is why in some variants we have a four-tip triquetra in the ruins as opposed to a three-tip triquetra. We'd still be missing a color-that-isn't, however, for the third still-remembered moon sister/shade of Phanes.
Now we just need an explanation for the abyssal/spacial magic starry sky variants of dark purples and muddy reds. Edit: apparently many abyssal related things are also magenta? On that note, is the Sacred Sakura magenta?
So like we hate cyan, magenta, yellow and black, colors of suntractive mixing and cmyk color profile. But black as forth color would be weird since its just lack of color and would be opposite to white (so woild have to coinside to be abbyss) Idk too little information to draw a conclusion
you mentioning scara's outfit reminded me that the top of his hat has the colors red, yellow, light and dark green, blue and purple. i always wondered why they included that since it seemed so out of place, but it definitely seems intentional if they've incorporated color theory into the game. considering they also included lotuses and moon references in his design, he was probably a hint about the connection to color theory
The rambling at the end xD youre hilarious and are a genius. Said it before in the past and Ill say it again: Im always learning from your vids. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
Magenta light does technically exist physically! (as in has a real waveform) though it's not a sine wave unlike the other spectral colors (red, yellow etc) and has no one wavelength but instead can be thought of as the superposition of two sine waves (with wavelengths of blue and red)
You could attempt a breakdown as follows: Pyro - Red (Substance; Matter; Existence) Hydro - Blue (Space; Expansion) Dendro - Green (Time; Information [quantum physics]) Anemo - Greenish-blue (Time with absence of Space; Resistance; Flow) Cryo - Whitish-blue (Absence of space; Constriction; Gravity) Electro - Magenta (Space and Substance, without Time; Timelessness; Eternity) Geo - Yellow (Time and Substance, without Space; Singularity) You could then extrapolate the elemental reactions in a similar fashion: Pyro Hydro = Vaporize (Substance fills/displaces Space) Pyro Electro = Overload, instant Pyro damage (Overabundance of Substance, without Time) Cryo Electro = Superconduct, instant Cryo damage (Providing Substance while unrestricting Space, without Time) Dendro Pyro = Burning, Pyro DoT (Substance with Time) Dendro Hydro = Bloom (Creation of spacetime) Geo P/C/H/E = Crystallize (Pulls incoming components into itself) And so on. I particularly like how this explains what the hell's going on with Geo. Then there's Abyss/Forbidden Knowledge which would be represented by Black; this could be mixed with any color to make it "darker", but "light" doesn't understand what that means, tying into how the Abyss is unknowable and maddening.
it's funny to hear you say "color theory made your head spin". i have a major in graphic design and studied color theory in college, so technically this is the first genshin theory video that didn't make my head spin at all! now the triquetra makes complete sense, at least to me. kudos to you for putting it together!
Doesn't Kiana's new Herrscher of Finalty battlesuit feature a magenta colour scheme? You know, the time god one. As a matter of fact, doesn't Time Fracture in Honkai turn the area at least a shade of purple?
This conversation excites me because in Honkai, while there's no explicit explanation about it, there are 3 colours associated with Honkai energy. Cyan/Blue (high concentration), Magenta (medium concentration) and Red (low concentration). I've broken this down based on in game enemies and characters ie. Blue - Benares, Ganesh(?), might be misremembering though, but one of those roly enemies Magenta - most Honkai zombies Red - APHO. This is important because in relevance to Genshin this also seems to check out Blue/Cyan - Leylines in domains, underground flowers, Dainsleif Magenta - the cursed sword from Dragonspine, abyss order chanting, I'll have to look up more Red- The petrified tree in Dragonspine, The Sustainers cubes. I don't have much to go on ATM, but these are just some observations I've made over time.
It does - Elysia is more associated with the redder magenta, though, Kiana's is bluer. I've though Elysia is Istaroth for a long time now so this theory totally tracks
@@OneRadicalDreamer magenta is the color of honkai, and red is the color of the star people. parvati (not ganesha) is blue because its just an ice ganesha. benares is blue because thats “default”, it can switch between purple orange and light blue (lightning/fire/ice) based on the dmg it takes. ive played honkai for years and im sorry but this theory makes 0 sense from both gameplay and story povs
I suppose that magenta Padisara had nanostructures on its petals that would absorb only green color from the spectrum, similarly to how Morpho butterflies have nanostructures on their wings that absorb only yellow and appear blue
As an artist i thought I understood color theory very well but you somehow confused me lol, mostly saying magenta doesnt exist but now i get it. Actually this might be interesting to add symbolism to using magenta, so thanks.
this made me think about those abyssal writings on the walls in underground chasm that disappear when you shine your lumenstone adjuvant light over them
Hum. My first thought when absence was mentioned with light was to think about where we might have seen stained/colored glass in the game. I imagine some lore theorist has traveled down this thread after hearing about color theory. There is some cyan-ish, stained glass-ish pattern behind the castle in the gnostic hymn animation. In Sumeru, most buildings seem to have blue-to-green glass with some gold/yellow, and the cathedral in Mondstadt has more colorful depictions of stars and flowers.
An interesting video game historical connection is that magenta was the color game devs used to use as a base so that once rendered it was easy to see if they missed any spots because it would be bright magenta while most landscape is green/brown
You probably already know but I just wanna add that the description of the sands from the new flop set basically says that the sand inside is challenging time by not moving no matter what you do, if thats not enough to hind that the goddess of flowers has something to do with time idk what it is.
whaaaaaat?????? how do you manage to blow my mind so many times???? wtf colors in genshin. my head hurst and i love it. amazing video, really something i did not expect
Well, it would make sense for white to be light, though it could technically be yellow? I wonder about the color theory on black, which is the absorption of all light. But Tartaglia and Dansleif’s abilities didn’t look black, but instead a very star filled dark indigo.
If we think about elements and their meaning in terms of colors and their perception, that's a whole rabbit hole on its own. It would essentially mean that some entities could be capable of interpreting them differently from how we're used to, which is interesting to think about.
The connection between lotuses and creation/birth is actually really relevant in Persian and Mesopotamian mythology, there’s so many historical/mythological records of gods being born out of a lotus in so many stories and myths. so seeing so many of them as symbols or patterns around the recent quests related to the goddess of flowers, totally makes sense! hope this theory is correct 👍🤍
I just realised something. The primordial one had 4 shades right? So he is one person who can also be 4 other people right? And the traveler is also one person who can also be up to 4 other people (cause thats the max team number)!! and like in game those act as independent from eachother cause they can die and have diffrent hunger bars and stats but they are also all the traveler cause during cutscense or when talking to important npc they always switch back to the traveler! And what if thats how the shades for the primordial one work (wait does that mean the traveler is the/a primordial one?!)
Oh my, this just reminds me of the Yajna Grass (Padisarah), Zohar Mushroom (Rukkhasava Mushroom), and others that we had to get during the Aranara quest and how their colours are not natural? Colours cause I remember clearly that the padisarah is actually magenta and the rukkhasava mushroom was cyan or light blue or smthn Not only that I also remember that one of the Aranara that was in that quest also mentioned how they (the Yajna grass and so on) were “the last of their kind” or smthn, so could it be that the Goddess of Flowers is capable of making colours in all spectrum (even the non-real ones) or perhaps just a connection between those plants and the GOF?
That moment when all the pieces start to fall together and, as your expression changes from mildly skeptical to absolutely mind-blown, Professor Yanfei looks at you with a smirk and whispers: "Boom."
I've been pulling my hair too over the light spectrum and the correspondent elements symbols xD - This is even more interesting considering the little game of lights lenses in the bottleland and the upcoming nation of illusions. Light and magic do go together ^^
3:27 I thought this was actually the less likely theory on color vision since it doesn't explain color blindness the way the opponent-process theory does (three receptors, one for red-green, one for blue-yellow, and one for dark-light)
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**ANNOTATIONS AND CORRECTIONS**
- It's not 100% true that the red and blue color receptors don't overlap but those overlapped areas only occur where green ALSO overlaps. I thought explaining this in the video would make everything to complicated, so I left my explanation a bit oversimplified.
- One more thing I over-simplified: the definition of extra-spectral colors. There's a lot of debate about what constitutes extra-spectral and I couldn't get much in the way of reliable conclusions on the subject, so for the purposes of this video I'm assuming colors like brown do have a wavelength of around 620nm while colors like magenta do not have a wavelength at all. This is not 100% accurate (in regards to brown) as this depends very much on the shade, but it's like, 80% true enough for the purposes of video game lore... but if there's a physicist in the comments, I'm all ears.
- Lotuses come in far more colors than the four listed in the video. The four I listed are mostly the ones with the most mythological or cultural significance.
300000000 IQ
Brown is just a very dark orange
Color is complicated.
I encourage everyone here to watch The surprising pattern behind color names by Vox (edit: I think this explains the brown),
and do a bit of digging about why primary colours we learned about in school r kinda wrong (n why printers don't use blu, red n yellow which r supposed to be primary colours).
Pink is not real. Irminsul can't make it.
Me at 10:30 those color in Irminsul look pink to me.
The mudd from the chasm had also that magenta coloring...
Side note, can magenta be conected to the abiss? We see one of the snakes' eyes glow in magenta in the battle pass trailer.
Amazing video like always :) love ya
maybe magenta is more so meant to represent the *absence* of time. Then the teal color of anemo being connected to time works better, since magenta and teal are sort of inverted from each other. Also, magenta is used for the corruption of Dvalin, and that freaky upside down statue. If magenta represents just "absence", then it makes sense being connected to the Abyss faction.
Magenta is also seen a lot in the chasm around all that mud. Maybe its an abyssal color??
Untime. It's a cool word.
@@Psycorde how bout anti-time? like anti matter but time
@@ljunson I agree.
Pumping this up so that more people see!!
The Hydro vishaps in enkanomiya were bred to be able to use cryo or electro, but couldnt be bred to use pyro, but if we use the color wheel, their breeding caused them to shift up or down the light spectrum of elements by one spot but couldnt shift them all the way to pyro. Also yellow is not just the traveler golden mode element but also the "color" of "physical" damage which might mean theres more to physical damage than meets the eye.
Ik we shouldn't trust gameplay for theories but Eula makes a frozen cryo grim heart that holds physical dmg which then explodes 5 seconds after you burst.
I always thought it was interesting how she was avle to do that and was glad that she wasn't the only one when Layla came out 💜
Also the only reactions to benefit physical dmg is between cryo and electro, magenta and cyan curious
but isn't there "LESS" to physical dmg.
In Alhaithem’s teaser, he talks about absence of things (in writing) and basically importance of "negative space"/things that aren't recorded/questions.
It sounds to me like "absence of green" in creating magenta is exactly the same thing as negative space/questions Alhaithem speaks about.
Edit: 0:53 in Alhaithem's teaser
The fun part of this is that Ibn Al-Haytham was a mathematician renowned for his discovery of many of the mechanics of light.
Love the fact you pointed out the connections to istaroth and the horns on Nilous outfit previously since wanderer has those horns on his LOTUS hat and I think that's a lil sus 👀
Fun fact i guess :
HP Lovecraft's popular book "The Colour Out of Space" shows a meteorite falling and emitting "strange colour that is outside of the visible spectrum". Since it's cosmic horror, the readers could imagine whatever colour they wanted. However, when movie adaptations came for this story,all the directors would use Magenta to describe the alien colour using the same logic that ashikai has mentioned.
So, Magenta:Aliens...Genshin:Descenders...checks out lol
Wait there are movie adaptations of The Colour Out of Space? how did i not know this until now
Didn't Lovecraft literally write that story because he didn't understand magenta?
@@elainasynranelt latest one was in 2019 with Nicholas Cage. I think they were trying to establish a Lovecraft cinematic universe like MCU but the film didn't get much reception
@@happyrock3732Oh cool i’ll def have to check that out
@@elainasynranelt believe it or not, the one with Nick Cage is actually really good.
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SO MUCH SENSE????!!!!
Side note: didn’t the Buddha also attain enlightenment while seated under a tree? (Correct me if I’m wrong)
And in the Goddess of Flowers’ eternal oasis we can clearly see a tree as the centerpiece and there was the connection with pink (magenta) lotuses and the Buddha as well which can be found in the oasis…
Now I’m not saying that the Goddess of Flowers is the Buddha in Genshin, but it might be an interesting connection (if I remembered the tree thing correctly, that is)
And there is SEATS UNDER SAID TREE . Like uou said its very interesting
You might be on to something :000
and Sumeru is based on India and middle east....
yes he reached enlightenment under a bodhi tree which has leaves similar to the dendro symbol
How? Because you've lost ur mind.
If indeed the game devs included the color theory aside from incorporating mythology, cultural aspects and themes, then i think this game is insane in terms of its foundation.
I'm so excited to see this topic! The sunsets in Genshin are really ...unique. It kept catching my eye but I didn't know what to make of it...
I wanted to offer one more clue about the color pink: the in-game material "horsetail" is magenta.
It's not considered a "local specialty" of Liyue and isn't used for much (only creating fly "bait" for fishing really). Each nation, like the elements, has 7 local specialties. horsetail is *not* one of them.
Also, when I first started playing the game, picking horsetail in the marsh, a lady NPC commented that the horsetail was supposed to capture the color of the sunset but she has never seen one the color of the sunset. (I can't find the quote but trust me it bothered me at the time. I kept thinking so the sky is unseeable? are NPCs color blind?) Anyway, magenta is connected to the color of the sky (light) and the game KNOWS IT. I don't know what this proves, but I feel vindicated! lol
How does Genshin DO all this?! Oh my god, I'm losing my mind. Just blown away
In Chinese, magenta is 洋紅色. The "洋" character has a lot of meanings depending on usage and context. Such as: foreign, vast, ocean, onion. "紅" is red and "色" is color.
Foreign red color
Vast red color
Ocean red color
Onion red color
The first one makes the most sense.
Onion Archon
Adding on..
The context of the word "洋“ in the term "magenta", might comes from the term 洋人, which refers anyone who travelled across the ocean (海洋). In most case, that is an umbrella term which refers to the white skinned people, westerners aka the North Americans or Europeans.
Magenta is a colour created by the europeans, and probably brought in by them as well. Someone living back in those days might look at it and goes "Hmm, new color. Let's call it the westerner's red."
So foreign red colour is the one which makes the most sense under that list of yours.
funny enough, the "onion red colour" translation also makes sense, since the only kind of onions that we have in genshin are red onions (normal ones irl come in red, white, and yellow, with the usual colour being white)... and red onions are really more close to magenta than red red
Ocean might actually make a lot of sense too, in context of the stars. "From beyond the ocean of the stars"?
If we look at how most of the abyss/forbidden knowledge related stuff is either magenta or a really dark shade of it (dark mud, miasmic tumor etc), could that be a reference to "knowledge from beyond 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘴"?
It's weird how Magenta is connected to the sky.
As one commenter said, horsetails are supposed to capture the color of the sunset yet the NPC has never seen a sunset of that color a.k.a. Magenta.
The Archaic Stone is partly magenta with the description: "The ore itself has incredible clarity and its colors are dazzling, almost seeming to glow with an inner light that brings out its blue-violet beauty, which is like the distant and lovely sunset sky."
Everlasting Moonglow is a magenta weapon, "A string of lovely jasper from the deep sea. It shines with a pure radiance like that of the moon (just like the Archaic Stone), and just as ever-distant(distant and lovely sunset sky)."
Magenta = Moon and Sky = Three Moon Sisters = Istaroth
The original Padisarahs were magenta, which are closely related to Istaroth.
(crack connection: magenta = sunset and moon, sunset = setting of sun and rising of moon perhaps further connecting Magenta to Istaroth)
The Amakumo Fruit, a magenta fruit, in Japanese is directly translated to the "Sky Cloud Grass Fruit".
Electro also comes in, Purple is closest to Magenta (Time). Lightning is directly correlated to clouds, the sky.
Naku Weed another slightly magenta plant, "the Naku Weed grows strongly in areas saturated with Electro energy. Due to its great affinity for lightning, it is often used by residents to predict storms".
Then, we have the Sakura Trees and the Irminsul which have pink/magenta leaves. If we go with Ashikai's theory that the Goddess of Flowers is in-fact the God of Time, then both the archons associated with these trees have a connection with Istaroth. Not to mention that Electro and Dendro are already heavily connected in the first place with Catalyze, dreams, time, memories, being the inverted-color versions of each other, etc.
Resin is literally shaped like the Moon, a crescent being the fragile resin with a branch of an Irminsul Tree, and Condensed Resin which is a Full Moon with a whole Irminsul Tree.
Transient Resin is a magenta Resin connected with time, " Pure energy that will dissipate with time. In this, it is similar to all else that is lovely in this world. But seize this opportunity and go make the world a slightly better place, as is fitting for one who dwells within the bounds of "time." "
Just some connections that I found interesting.
the 'magenta' transient resin that disappears after due 'time' part was really strong and sells this theory in my book very strongly!!! i love this comment!
the magenta being the unknown future kinda reminds me of fate, because in genshin, fate is kinda how the "unknown future" represented. Like all things will eventually lead to the same outcome no matter how they change their past. Pretty cool 😳
Sounds like some Jojo's type of fate haha
also the colour of incomplete textures in games. Magenta.
I've always thought of fate as certain future because although small details may change, it records the outcome "written in the stars" rather than uncertainty of future.
Magenta color described in the vid strikes me more as the uncertainty of future.
The future thing connected to thousand winds/cyan makes me think of interconnectedness of things and butterfly effect.
So butterfly effect/anemo/cyan
Uncertainty/magenta/whatever goddess of flowers is
Fate/yello/traveler maybe?
These r all half formed ideas tho.
@@mmmgi6763 yeah that's what I was thinking too, fate is pre-determined, but there are fews that can see one's fate, so technically it is still "unknown"
I also thought of the color of "Acquainted Fate" and "Intertwined Fate" and draw some theories there but who knows 🫠 maybe hoyoverse is pulling a uu pretty color go brrrrrrr
Intertwined Fates also have some pink/purple on them
Acquaint Fates are just blue though
Printers crying in CMYK.
Also, Electro Slimes come in Purple AND Yellow. I'm actually wishing hoyo would make a yellow electro vision user.
There are 2 colours of slimes, because slimes represent their elements' archons. Not the visions. The 2 slimes are supposed to represent Baal/Ei and Makoto. It wouldn't make sense for there to be yellow vision holders, because Makoto doesn't exist anymore. Plus, she used to be purple, too. But as Ei claimed the throne, she "shaded" into yellow.
WAIT!!!!! Ashikai! What if the color “yellow” refers to alchemy/khemia? There’s always been a huge connection between alchemy and gold, especially with albedo as a reference. The white could be indicative of the primordial one or the descenders. The fact that it’s the combination of all the wavelengths could be indicative of the power the traveller will eventually get when they claim all the elements. White is kinda like the light-based version of the avatar from the last air bender. It’s a combo of everything.
Idk, I just had the connection between knemia and “yellow” and the primordial powers (aka chaos) by the color “white”
Considering that the primary goal of alchemy is the creation of gold, I'd say they are wery closely connected. Maybe Naberius (as in the Heart of Naberius) truly was the 8th archon and alchemy used to be their element, or maybe alchemists are trying to recreate them/their divinity with this craft. Also, if cyan is the "time" and magenta is highly likely "absence of time" what would that make yellow/gold?
On the topic of Yellow, it should be noted that electro slimes are yellow sometimes. I have no connection for this, but i thought it was worth taking note of.
@@Eclipse_IV you know, after your comment I've kinda thought about it, and well. I also wondered for the longest time, why the second slime is yellow? It doesn't need to be yellow, why not just make another violet big slime with some special markings or something. And well, maybe I am reaching too far, but if you consider it, we haven't seen many other true yellow (not geo-yellowish orange) things in genshin, aside the electro-slime, Albedo's star and ka'enriah's robots. And that's the thing: yellow/golden parts in ruin machines are the energy blocks and glowing "wiring". I am not well versed on Albedo's lore, but that star on his neck can be somewhat of an energy amplifier that helps him function. And if it's true, than yellow must be "energy". That would even line up with the "time" theory, because if cyan is the normal flow of time; and magenta is the frozen time, as in things frosen in time because the atoms are completely devoid of energy (this is what the absolute zero in kelvin is, complete lack of atomic movement) than gold/yellow can be the speed of time. That also would kinda line up with white, as yellow is the second most used color in light depiction only after white. And you know, speed of light, energy and time are kinda closely connected
Me, an artist who already knows about magenta: *nodding along the entire video in happy bliss*
the professional fade away at the end was pretty great. I paint miniatures as a hobby, been doing it for close to eight years now, and it blew my mind when I first learned that magenta didn't actually exist. you did a wonderful job explaining why that is here. incidentally, I never picked up on the color theory at play in genshin but it shouldn't surprise me that it's there, and this video certainly is an insightful bit of info. the connections your brain makes are amazing, and I will die on the hill that you need to be a story director for a game or visual novel. . .and that I wanna be on that writing team hahaha
This color theory thing is really fascinating. Also, iirc Ashikai said on one of her streams that she wrote a few books/ stories in the past, but she isn't sharing them because the books have her real name on it.
has anyone else noticed that whenever someone has time/space/memories issues (Ilyas in alhaithams story quest or even traveler heard the mysterious voice explaining the broken vase for example) they have this “static-y”/3D kinda vision?? well the two colors of the split vision are CYAN AND MAGENTA! (i think) 🤯
I feel like there is a really strong connection to the goddess of flowers and Lisa being the witch of purple rose. With Lisa’s vison being electro, her hat having a purple lotus, and her constellation being an hour glass, and that she somehow was one of the best to ever graduate from Sumeru, there has to be something there. Idk, could just be me though.
Also, magenta makes me think of Yae Miko’s color of electro, and how it’s different from everyone else’s. Plus she teases that her vision is merely decoration.
Do you think the different characteristics of the aura colors are related as well?
Love your videos! ✨
This reminded me of honkai. Anything honkai related in honkai impact is represented with bright magenta ie. the honkai beasts, honkai energy even elysia the herrscher born pure from honkai. It made me speculate that something like the honkai exists in genshin, a force out of the power of the seven or the primordial one. Perhaps the bubble universe theory still stands and the honkai watever form or name it may be is inevitable and it will always "impact" any advancing universe in the imaginary tree
Perhaps, in the world of Genshin, Purple/Magenta can only exist "for an instant" (i.e. like a lightning bolt).
Now think about why Ei focused so much on "eternity", and how the Eternal Oasis has purple/magenta flowers and is frozen in time. It's like they're trying to "stretch an instant into eternity."
"Wow learning color theory for drawing is making me stressed, how about a genshin break"
*Ashikai talks about colour theory
*dying inside
jokes aside, i like it when there is a video that i know where or whats the inspiration/reference from i like it sm
11:00 if irminsul records 'in light' then could it be that the abyss sibling "suddenly appeared" in khaenri'ah because it was the end of their journey and they restored their powers of light/their true identity and only then were finally able to be recorded/recognized by irminsul
magenta is also the color of dvalin's tainted blood... thing that we got after we defeat him, the aura around the upside down venti statue's orb, pre-purification chasm nail and dark mud... basically, anything related to abyssal corruption seems to be magenta-colored... weird
Hrrmmmm….. that IS sus…. So either magenta stands for absence of time, unknown future, or corruption… or all of these!? (I got the two others from other comments they are not my own)
Well magenta is absence of color, amd abbyss would be absemce of light, so maybe the two are connected
Then again cyan is also absence of light like magenta so thats weird
PLEASE make more videos like this, where you connect irl theories and stuff to the in game lore. I've learnt a bunch from this video. It was super interesting to watch.
Also, color pink is one of my favorites, and is a bit meaningful to me because of personal reasons, so I'm glad I could learn more about it. I've heard before that the color pink doesn't really exist but never heard the explanation to why, so thanks for explaining it here haha.
One more thing, I really like your videos, you always think outside of the box when it comes to making connections between lore bits and between irl information (cultures, religions, references, theories etc.). Tho I'm not invested that much into the story and lore of the game, your videos are always interesting and fun to watch! You are amazing Ashikai!
Love how all these areas of science mythology and art come together! You do a great job breaking everything down ty for sharing your interpretations and findings
Great theory, but if I were to go with the artsy explanation (as an artist) as to why Rhukadavata couldn't recreate the specific shade of purple: Purples can be a really elusive color to mix if you don't use modern synthetic pigments. If you use a classical color palette, made popular during the late 19th century and still used by most painters, you get mostly earthy looking purples. True purples and magentas are just not that common in nature. I'd assume that Rhukadavata just didn't have the right "palette" to recreate the goddess of flowers Padisaras. but that's just my mundane musings
Maybe the Heavenly Principles are kind of like UV light in this theory, which would explain how Violet/Electro is the "closest" to them. Comes with a very strong sunlight feel ascociated with it. Likewise Infrared could be associated with the Abyss in that it is most associated with seeing in darkness
Compliments to your editor for the super sharp editing, and compliments to you for tying my brain into another Genshin-related knot!
You know even the wishing colors are now making me question everything we got cyan as the 3 star so maybe representing the past with so many of it magenta as the 4 stars representing the future and wouldn’t you know it the yellow is a 5 star which is extremely rare and is never represented in the primogems and fates actually it’s not even represented that much at all in the game expect you know the traveller. Also paimon is white
fun fact that I only just realised starting a new game, in german Venti calls vison bearers „Urgötter“ which is plural for „Urgott“ which means something like the original/first god and when I looked it up in the dictionary to double check, the translation I was given was primordial god
Applause to TXR for the editing!! Haven't even finished the video yet and the editing is so CLEAN!! All the love to ya!
I love how confusing color actually is. Especially how perceived color (light) is quite different than what causes things to be different colour (pigment). Than there r color pigments that occur naturally and ones we think r common but wouldn't be around much unless we created them.
It's one of things that is very simple unless u look into it. So fascinating.
Pink being “not real” is what makes it even COOLER 😤
I love this person so much, not only are her theories interesting but the way she articulates her thoughts really calms me down for some reason
You've never felt existential horror until you've watched a video in which Ashikai is watching a video of Ashikai, and all you can think about is the colour of Yanfei's hair
Scara never stops being lore relevant in seemingly the most random ways
The interesting fact about electro and time is also Raiden second quest where there is a literal time confusing thing with the Sakura tree being planted in the present and in the past at the same time
1:48 yanfei fucking rising up out of the desert sands sent me into hysterics
This whole video just retaught me the science I learned months ago 💀
you are literally my favourite. THis channel helped me jump back into genshin without feeling out of the loop
This whole video just makes me think even more that Griseo is The Primordial One, each one of her signets in HI3 Elysian Realm each correspond to a color.
At this point I'm just waiting for the full connection between Honkai and Genshin to be officially revealed
I've also personally noticed through ashikai' videos that the more we learn about "Forbidden Knowledge" the more it sounds like Honkai energy
@@Tfbrave EXACTLY like "Forbidden Knowledge" seems like they are tapping into the sea of quanta/Imaginary tree and getting power/knowledge from the will of honkai
@@johnathanstalker2682 not to mention the effect of the hilichurl curse has sounds an AWFUL LOT like Honkai Zombies
Also a lot of people missed the fact that Durandal visited a version of SUMERU at some point- so I fully expect her to show up during our time in Sumeru at some point - even if it's only a background cameo
I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR RAMBLING VIDEOS. I thought I was interesting to point out that humans eyes split what we see between brain half’s.This means that if we look at something from the corner of our eye wille focusing from on what’s right in front of us, we get 1 input of color, if we then look at it with both eyes we get 2 inputs in the same half and because of angels, blue and red can then overlap with our green, resulting in a overload, making a small percentage of us see either infrared or ultraviolet, as pinkish.
The editing has been really good these last couple of videos. Love it. And like always, am mindblown with your explanations and how all of this makes sense
My mind is on fire and steam and smoke is literally coming out of my head
I love the two top comments about magenta being the absence of time, and teal being connected to time -- the colors themselves are inverted of each other, and so perfect pairs, and opposites. We see a lot of all of that stuff during our time in Mondstadt. The other one talks about the vishaps -- which has connections to the world of Teyvat even before the archons and gods and humanity.
This theory itself though?!? My brain is fried.
The rambling fade-out really added to the enjoyment. I love how your videos are both interesting and entertaining.
Fun fact: apparently we cannot see yellow, only a mix of colours making our brain see it. But the real yellow...
Goldfishes have the sensors to see it. Not us
The amount of times I had to stop and say "No goddamn way-" while watching this video (a similar amount to the three parters actually) is proof that you're getting in my head with this crazy theory stuff and I love it
You've done a lot of great stuff but I think this might be my fav. The little fade out rant was very funny.
I'd like to point out that colors in a rainbow are a cultural construct. They're a spectrum, so the distinct colors are just how we choose to divide them. For example, indigo is only in the European rainbow because Isaac Newton thought it would be cool if there were 7 colors in the rainbow instead of 6. I don't know which colors constitute a rainbow in Chinese culture, but it could be that those colors perfectly match the 7 elements and that cyan isn't excluded.
a late reply but you are exactly right on this! in chinese, the rainbow (or well, the equivalent of english’s roygbiv) is
红 = red / pyro
橙 = orange / geo
黄 = yellow / the traveller or… mora?
绿 = green / dendro
青 = cyan / anemo
蓝 = blue / hydro
紫 = purple / electro
@@kainaxii That leaves out Cryo... but then, in Chinese it appears to be 冰 = ice, frozen water, so maybe it just counts as part of Hydro? "Light blue" isn't really a separate color from blue, anyway.
@@kimarimoi and tbh, ice is literally just frozen water/hydro anyway. they don't necessarily need to be separated in this case.
That's exactly what I needed. I'll have an exam about that in a week. Thanks for the summary
fun fact from a physics major! red light can have another peak at the wavelength of blue light (though obviously it’s main peak is in the red wavelength) so that’s why the red and blue color receptors can be triggered simultaneously!
Now this is kinda unrelated but I wanted to share. Magenta is one of the "impossible colors". If you want more detailed yet scientific explanition, go watch kyle hill's "what are impossible colors" video. It was very interesting.
The editing in your videos makes my brain go brrrr with happiness
Watching this at 1 am is a bad idea. I will watch it again in the morning. Thank you for the video, ashikai
this was such a cool theory! I wanted to point something out involving your connections between anemo and electro when it comes to time. There are two characters in the game who have used both anemo and electro as elements. Kazuha during his fight with Raiden and then Scaramouche used electro before getting an Anemo vision. I havnt completed the scara archon quest so I may have missed something but i just wanted to point that out lol.
How th does mihoyo make literally everything have lore implications?
How much brain power do you need to take so many irl references from cultures across the world and create this level of world building in Teyvat and somehow everything seems so cohesive and be able to express it through lore text, visual art design and all other aspects of the game and make anime characters that sell for millions of dollars? How is this even possible
Im equally bamboozled. I never knew a human is capable of this. It seems I truly do not understand what it's like being extremely intelligent 🐵
I can say this is the greatest lore of a video game can ever have ..
Everything makes so much sense that it's shocking
Firstly 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I don't know what say with the colour theory part of the video
The idea of Electro having some connections to time interesting
I was thinking of something similar to this as how some elements seem to have a sort of dual nature which are mostly noticable when Archons use them. Like how Ei while still using Electro can slash to space and reality, Nahida has power of dreams, wind has always been connected to time and with the Weinleza festival Venti showed that might also be able to manipulate time as he showed Razor a vision about his parents, Zhongli and Geo is the most confusing one because if we simply go of Zhongli's burst and stories about Morax he has been throwing meteors and Geo spear at people for a long time but where do those come from? Does he pull them in from outside the firmament manipulating Gravity or does he just create them from thin air ?
Anyway that's my ramblings Big Brain as Always Ashikai
Great Video 👍
True true
few weeks ago i noticed Wanderer's hat has small colorful dots (yellow, orange, green, purplish and blueish) and i've been wondering what this could mean since then.
Thank you so much for this Video, Ashikai! I have a Presentation on color circles and color perception today and in all my research i never read that magenta dosent exist.
Now i still have time to put it in, thanks again!!
This is mostly just me rambling.
So we have three colours that don't exist according to Genshin's elements. Cyan, Yellow and Magenta. Cyan is Anaemo, having replaced yellow for some reason. Yellow is the colour of a bunch of effects in genshin like the Inazuma sword draw, Hu Tao's sprint animation, and the twins' original power. It's different from the pure white of what I theorise to be elemental energy without the elemental attunement (which, if visions act like light filters might make some sense) in some way I don't understand yet but is pretty present in game, and then we have magenta, the colour that seems tied to the Goddess of Flowers.
It makes sense, three colours for three moon sisters and three fates; but phanes split into four shades; and Yellow and Cyan do exist as colours - it's only Magenta that has been completely erased; yet the Goddess of Flowers wasn't erased. Was she recreating something?
If one of Phanes's four shades was erased from irminsul, having only survived in Enkanomiyan texts, then everywhere else there would only be three. Perhaps that is why in some variants we have a four-tip triquetra in the ruins as opposed to a three-tip triquetra.
We'd still be missing a color-that-isn't, however, for the third still-remembered moon sister/shade of Phanes.
Do you see the many (many) Yellow-Cyan-Magenta glowing things in the new expansion? And they're all connected to the Goddess of Flowers?
Now we just need an explanation for the abyssal/spacial magic starry sky variants of dark purples and muddy reds.
Edit: apparently many abyssal related things are also magenta? On that note, is the Sacred Sakura magenta?
So like we hate cyan, magenta, yellow and black, colors of suntractive mixing and cmyk color profile.
But black as forth color would be weird since its just lack of color and would be opposite to white (so woild have to coinside to be abbyss)
Idk too little information to draw a conclusion
you mentioning scara's outfit reminded me that the top of his hat has the colors red, yellow, light and dark green, blue and purple. i always wondered why they included that since it seemed so out of place, but it definitely seems intentional if they've incorporated color theory into the game. considering they also included lotuses and moon references in his design, he was probably a hint about the connection to color theory
The rambling at the end xD youre hilarious and are a genius. Said it before in the past and Ill say it again: Im always learning from your vids. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
I love how the room darkens as if we're slow backing away as Ashikai goes on another tangent on color wheels😅
Magenta light does technically exist physically! (as in has a real waveform) though it's not a sine wave unlike the other spectral colors (red, yellow etc) and has no one wavelength but instead can be thought of as the superposition of two sine waves (with wavelengths of blue and red)
You could attempt a breakdown as follows:
Pyro - Red (Substance; Matter; Existence)
Hydro - Blue (Space; Expansion)
Dendro - Green (Time; Information [quantum physics])
Anemo - Greenish-blue (Time with absence of Space; Resistance; Flow)
Cryo - Whitish-blue (Absence of space; Constriction; Gravity)
Electro - Magenta (Space and Substance, without Time; Timelessness; Eternity)
Geo - Yellow (Time and Substance, without Space; Singularity)
You could then extrapolate the elemental reactions in a similar fashion:
Pyro Hydro = Vaporize (Substance fills/displaces Space)
Pyro Electro = Overload, instant Pyro damage (Overabundance of Substance, without Time)
Cryo Electro = Superconduct, instant Cryo damage (Providing Substance while unrestricting Space, without Time)
Dendro Pyro = Burning, Pyro DoT (Substance with Time)
Dendro Hydro = Bloom (Creation of spacetime)
Geo P/C/H/E = Crystallize (Pulls incoming components into itself)
And so on. I particularly like how this explains what the hell's going on with Geo. Then there's Abyss/Forbidden Knowledge which would be represented by Black; this could be mixed with any color to make it "darker", but "light" doesn't understand what that means, tying into how the Abyss is unknowable and maddening.
it's funny to hear you say "color theory made your head spin". i have a major in graphic design and studied color theory in college, so technically this is the first genshin theory video that didn't make my head spin at all! now the triquetra makes complete sense, at least to me. kudos to you for putting it together!
Doesn't Kiana's new Herrscher of Finalty battlesuit feature a magenta colour scheme? You know, the time god one. As a matter of fact, doesn't Time Fracture in Honkai turn the area at least a shade of purple?
This conversation excites me because in Honkai, while there's no explicit explanation about it, there are 3 colours associated with Honkai energy. Cyan/Blue (high concentration), Magenta (medium concentration) and Red (low concentration). I've broken this down based on in game enemies and characters ie.
Blue - Benares, Ganesh(?), might be misremembering though, but one of those roly enemies
Magenta - most Honkai zombies
Red - APHO.
This is important because in relevance to Genshin this also seems to check out
Blue/Cyan - Leylines in domains, underground flowers, Dainsleif
Magenta - the cursed sword from Dragonspine, abyss order chanting, I'll have to look up more
Red- The petrified tree in Dragonspine, The Sustainers cubes.
I don't have much to go on ATM, but these are just some observations I've made over time.
It does - Elysia is more associated with the redder magenta, though, Kiana's is bluer.
I've though Elysia is Istaroth for a long time now so this theory totally tracks
@@OneRadicalDreamer magenta is the color of honkai, and red is the color of the star people. parvati (not ganesha) is blue because its just an ice ganesha. benares is blue because thats “default”, it can switch between purple orange and light blue (lightning/fire/ice) based on the dmg it takes. ive played honkai for years and im sorry but this theory makes 0 sense from both gameplay and story povs
I suppose that magenta Padisara had nanostructures on its petals that would absorb only green color from the spectrum, similarly to how Morpho butterflies have nanostructures on their wings that absorb only yellow and appear blue
Didn't expected a genshin theorist to teach me colors
Genshin lore is gonna make me study quantum physics soon
As an artist i thought I understood color theory very well but you somehow confused me lol, mostly saying magenta doesnt exist but now i get it.
Actually this might be interesting to add symbolism to using magenta, so thanks.
That rambling outtro! 🤣🤣🤣
You always crack me up, I have a good time when I come here! 😄
I'm so happy that the video exists. It's my favorite thing about both color and personal pet theory GI's elemental design
this made me think about those abyssal writings on the walls in underground chasm that disappear when you shine your lumenstone adjuvant light over them
Hum. My first thought when absence was mentioned with light was to think about where we might have seen stained/colored glass in the game. I imagine some lore theorist has traveled down this thread after hearing about color theory. There is some cyan-ish, stained glass-ish pattern behind the castle in the gnostic hymn animation. In Sumeru, most buildings seem to have blue-to-green glass with some gold/yellow, and the cathedral in Mondstadt has more colorful depictions of stars and flowers.
An interesting video game historical connection is that magenta was the color game devs used to use as a base so that once rendered it was easy to see if they missed any spots because it would be bright magenta while most landscape is green/brown
I like your videos, any kind. Im literally listening to this while doing my homework to fill the lonely void in my room
So THIS is how her BRAIN WORKS! Amazing!
You probably already know but I just wanna add that the description of the sands from the new flop set basically says that the sand inside is challenging time by not moving no matter what you do, if thats not enough to hind that the goddess of flowers has something to do with time idk what it is.
whaaaaaat?????? how do you manage to blow my mind so many times???? wtf colors in genshin. my head hurst and i love it. amazing video, really something i did not expect
Surprised there was no mention on the irminsal tree being pink and even some parts being purply
THE ABYSS AND THE UPSIDE DOWN VENTI ARE MAGENTA-ISH
Well, it would make sense for white to be light, though it could technically be yellow?
I wonder about the color theory on black, which is the absorption of all light. But Tartaglia and Dansleif’s abilities didn’t look black, but instead a very star filled dark indigo.
If we think about elements and their meaning in terms of colors and their perception, that's a whole rabbit hole on its own. It would essentially mean that some entities could be capable of interpreting them differently from how we're used to, which is interesting to think about.
I was skeptical… until Jeht’s new quest. Watching this first made me notice a lot more than I think I would have otherwise
The colour wheel - our brain _bends_ the light spectrum to connect the two extreme ends together.
The connection between lotuses and creation/birth is actually really relevant in Persian and Mesopotamian mythology, there’s so many historical/mythological records of gods being born out of a lotus in so many stories and myths. so seeing so many of them as symbols or patterns around the recent quests related to the goddess of flowers, totally makes sense! hope this theory is correct 👍🤍
something came to my mind after seeing this : "flower goddess is abyss to king deshret"
I just realised something. The primordial one had 4 shades right? So he is one person who can also be 4 other people right? And the traveler is also one person who can also be up to 4 other people (cause thats the max team number)!! and like in game those act as independent from eachother cause they can die and have diffrent hunger bars and stats but they are also all the traveler cause during cutscense or when talking to important npc they always switch back to the traveler! And what if thats how the shades for the primordial one work (wait does that mean the traveler is the/a primordial one?!)
This is a shocking discovery, you literally carried Genshin lore to a whole new level.
I am so glad you added "normal colour vision" in xD cause colourblindness sucks! And I am glad you are connecting dots to explain!
Oh my, this just reminds me of the Yajna Grass (Padisarah), Zohar Mushroom (Rukkhasava Mushroom), and others that we had to get during the Aranara quest and how their colours are not natural? Colours cause I remember clearly that the padisarah is actually magenta and the rukkhasava mushroom was cyan or light blue or smthn
Not only that I also remember that one of the Aranara that was in that quest also mentioned how they (the Yajna grass and so on) were “the last of their kind” or smthn, so could it be that the Goddess of Flowers is capable of making colours in all spectrum (even the non-real ones) or perhaps just a connection between those plants and the GOF?
As a Kamen Rider fan I am confused on the thumbnail lmaooooo
PINKU JANAI, MAGENTA DA!
Oh boy! My favorite bit of trivia is relevant to my favorite game :D
That moment when all the pieces start to fall together and, as your expression changes from mildly skeptical to absolutely mind-blown, Professor Yanfei looks at you with a smirk and whispers: "Boom."
I like how she was sitting in clothars home all this time without slightest idea how important this place will become after 3.5
I've been pulling my hair too over the light spectrum and the correspondent elements symbols xD - This is even more interesting considering the little game of lights lenses in the bottleland and the upcoming nation of illusions. Light and magic do go together ^^
1st video of yours I ever watched and I just have to say I really love how you explain and connect the dots in your theory!
3:27 I thought this was actually the less likely theory on color vision since it doesn't explain color blindness the way the opponent-process theory does (three receptors, one for red-green, one for blue-yellow, and one for dark-light)
Dunno. I'm not an ophthalmologist.