Soap FAIL | Beer Soaps | Big Lather Test | Day 37/365 | Soap Seizing, Ricing, and Separation
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Welcome to the dumpster fire! In today's installment of 365 Days of Soap, we are playing with booze. And I'm also showing you what common soaping problems look like. Because visuals are fun. For you. Not for me; I had to make this. Read on for a list of the things we experienced in this soap batch!
False trace: So I soaped this when the lye/beer solution was at 120 degrees, and the oils were at 90 degrees. This particular recipe is made with the "basic three"; olive oil, coconut oil, and palm. Because of the high amount of solid oils, soaping at 90 degrees can lead to what is known in the soaping world as "false trace" - this is basically when the soaping oils firm up before the mixture is emulsified, leading you to believe that it is ready to pour.
Now, normally the hot lye solution would melt down the solid bits of oils - stearic acid has a rather high melting point, but since the lye was sitting at 120 degrees, it should have been hot enough to melt the solid oils and all will be well. BUT because we are working with a beer lye solution, the sugars in the beer sped up the thickening of the batter, further contributing to the notion that emulsification had been achieved.
Separation: normally we see separation when a fragrance oil has been added and can't be incorporated into the soap batter. Alcohol soaps are a bit different, however - when you have beer in place of your water, it acts as an additive that can potentially cause separation before the scent has been incorporated. So in essence, the oils were separating from the lye solution. This can be fixed by continuing to mix the batter, and it loosens up reasonably well. I didn't do that, because I want to show you the rest of the problems...
Ricing: also usually a fragrance oil problem. This batch began its separation stage before scent was added, however, due to the alcohol content and the difference in temps from oils to lye solution. So it is with the ricing as well; before scent was added, this guy started ricing. We tried to stick blend it out, and the soap...
Seized! Seizing is pretty self explanatory, and we saw that in spades today. You're welcome.
Finished bar is very soft in places, easy to break. This is because the soap was not emulsified. This is also why there are pockets of hard oils throughout; the oils were too cool and the batter was not mixed long enough.
Having fun? Let me know your worst soaping experiences in the comments!
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It was beautiful of you to share this, and just think of all the people you will help. Keepin’ it real is so appreciated. 🤗 ❤️
Other than saying the batch was a fail I didn't find this educational. If someone was trying to save the batch what should they have done? It sounds like you are against applying a stick blender?
So awesome that you allowed the soap to be one heartache after another just for our learning experience. Thank you.
Super duper brave of you to put these up. It helps to learn so much. Also it so relatable and real..!
Even though it was a bust it was very cool and educational. Thanks lady.
This video here is why I will watch every video over and over as I learn. Thank you 😊😊🙌💞💕
This video is great. It shows soapmaking isn't perfect every single time. So thank you
Thank you for enduring all the pain!! This is awesome.. I just bought soapmaking equipments and want to start but terrified at the idea of failing without realizing that I failed.
Thank you so much for sharing this experience. My batter seized today. Now I know what to do with it.
Thank You. It helps a lot to see the errors and the impact.
Great video of what not to do!! Thank you for sharing
Thank you so much for sharing.. This is so informative.. 💐
Thanks for sharing. This helped me : )
I have learnt a lot through my own mistakes, and watching you explain why they happen. Interesting during separation to blend more. Can you make soap dough from batches like this? I'm rebatching my double batch I just made...
I love how you narrated this video 😅
Errrrrr no, I’m not going to stick blend that no 😅😅
Hi, I was wondering how to stop additives from separating in liquid soap? I used sodium coco Sulfate noodle & cocamidopropyl betaine as my surfactant. My additives are Kaolin Clay, Allantoin & Colloidal oats. I mixed it with Vegetable Glycerin & honey but it still separated.
This makes me feel better. I just created a hot mess. I don’t think I actually got to trace and I was sing 50% olive oil and 50% coconut oil. I was afraid of seizing, and I think I poured too soon. Oh well. It was a good lesson.
We all have those days!
Hello! What do we do when we see ricing in out batter? Will the pockets dry out of the finished product while curing? Is it save to use and sell?
How to rebatch soap that came out to Soft
So what do I do with it now? 16:54
What is the secret to a nonfailingesque beer soap...everyone I've ever made pretty much ends up like this....I soap cool...all precautions taken...
Hello, my recipe is olive oil pomace, coconut oil and palm oil , but after adding the fragrance oil, the mixture separated and hardened quickly. Could the fragrance oil be unsuitable for soap making, which caused the separation of the mixture? Thank you for the valuable information.
Fragrances are known to not play nice in soap! Check the manufacturer’s website for their soaping notes, and as a general rule if a company doesn’t have soaping notes for their scents, don’t buy them until you get more comfortable. Better safe then out of money for a weird batch of soap. Have fun! ❤️
This just happened to me and I’m still trying to recover😢
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What to do when we see separation of the soap has already accelerated..? Is it a lost cause..?
Not at all - in most cases the separation works itself out in saponification and the soap is fine!
I just made a batch of beer soap that did everything in this video. I haven't unmolded yet so waiting to see the final product. This was my first failed batch of soap. Question, will the soap be usable? Thanks for your video!!!
Oh no! Never a fun time, as this video shows! It’s still safe to use in 99% of cases; call it rustic or shred it and make some paste or melt and pour or whipped soaps!
@@MrsSoapAndClayIt will be family soap. Thanks for your quick response.
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1st batch ever soaped too cold..
2nd batch ok-ish
3rd batch was mashed potatoes almost immediately.. ugh
Oof. It’s so rough when that happens.
Hi there, first of all I want to say you are very brave to show us this, I´ve been searching videos like this but they rarely explain what is happening, I have to say that I learned a lot about your video, because I´m starting, I´m a one year soap maker old and let me tell you this happens all the time for me with certain soaps and I know exactly how you feel when it happens to you, so I´m very thankful for the teaching lesson now I have a clear idea of what shoul i care about my process and how can I fix them, I think there should be more videos like yours because they are really helpful we usually see only the pretty part of this bussines until it happens to you XD thankyou.
Hi! Thanks for watching! Stick around - I talk about the chemistry behind the pretty and show the not so pretty all of the time. Understanding the why behind soaps, or problems, increases your soapy skill set in much bigger ways than just watching someone execute a perfect pour, I think. ❤️
@@MrsSoapAndClay I think you R just right an thnks again
While I was mixing my oils and lye, water wouldn't mix with the combination...☹️what did I do wrong
Are you using a stick blender??
@@americanmade1701 No🤦🏽♀️ I tried again without a stick blender. I think am learning now cause it came out right but I had to stir for a bit longer
Omg THANK YOU for this “visual”… So the “inter webs” says we need to stick blend the separation and ricing… but that makes it harder… would you add sodium lactate to keep it more fluid and continue to blend until actual emulsion? Throw your design to hell and just make soap?
Personally I never put the stick back in. 😳 No but really, I at most get a whisk out and a bit of sodium lactate to loosen the batter enough to make it pourable.
@@MrsSoapAndClay Thank you!!! that makes a whole lot more sense! filed away in to the "JIC" folder. LOL
I did this today😂😂
I think maybe you could have poured it at light trace & gotten it in the mold. It heated up from the beer too fast & started going through saponification. I think you emulsified it enough.??
Probably not! But I like the way you think.