Michigan Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Steve Deace says there’s one lazy, stupid fan trope surrounding Michigan football that needs to stop. Michael Spath from WTKA in Ann Arbor and Wolverine Digest stops by to discuss who staying and who’s leaving the Michigan football program. The pair also mull a point of contention they have with Michigan basketball coach Juwan Howard.
Gotta love Michigan fans acting like football players have the same admission process/standards as the normal student body.
Happy2020, Mr.Ingle they're all doing it!
I cant stand the reddit sub or mgoblog anymore. They quite literally subscribe to conspiracy theories
I remember SI doing a big expose of this very thing in the 1990's and none other than Jim Harbaugh talking about how he was dissuaded from majoring in something substantial (History) while he was taking a shot while he was the HC at Stanford. It's well documented that UMs admission requirements don't apply to the football team. Not that this is rare, but they certainly aren't as above it as some of their fans believe they are.
How many actually believe this? I don't know anyone in MI that actually buys into the student athlete at Michigan or anywhere.
They've never heard of the NCAA clearing house.
Unfortunately, with what I see on social
media, which I do not participate in, whiners and the worst. The product on the field still needs to be better either way.
I’m a Buckeyes fans and Steve, love your honesty and keeping it real.
0-4!
Go Tigers!
😭 WAHHHHHH!!!!!
The refs cheated!!!
@@-SMACKDOWN Looks like Steve is talking about you in this podcast. "Leaders and Best, or Homer J and Worst"?
Yeah, violations seem to be your thing. You have so many that you don’t even know which ones I mean.
Thanks for calling out those whiners, Steve. You're absolutely right--the "everyone else is cheating/only Michigan cares about academics" mindset is all over the Mgoblog forums and it's painfully embarrassing. Especially the trashing of online classes, seeing as though, as you pointed out, Michigan ALSO offers online classes.
Mgoblog is the worst. Those guys are truly delusional. They know that Harbaugh and the Michigan staff and program in general is clearly inferior to OSU but they continue ranting about "bagmen", academics and online courses.
There's a cultural issue in the football program that begins and ends with the head coach. Discipline, consistent effort and toughness, individualism, identity, player development at least compared to OSU are all issues stemming from the top that have nothing to do with cheating or not cheating.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
On point!!
Sometimes it’s great to be an online commenter that actually has the correct answer and No one will listen. That’s me. I have the answer for scUM football to be put back on the national map and begin beating tOSU on a regular basis. I will share this knowing that absolutely no one will listen...and I love it! Go back and see the way the culture changed around the tOSU program once Cooper was fired and Jim Tressel took over. It was a culture change (just as you have said), and the change wasn’t just in the program....it was extended to the student body. In short, it was everyone’s job to get on board and do whatever they could to beat scUM 365 days of the year, and 366 on leap year. No lie.....things changed dramatically. It changed so much that once Urban took over, he only had to maintain the deep respect for THE GAME that had been instilled by Tress. Tress got the horse back to its winning ways, and Urban was just a better jockey on an already fast horse.
Admitting that there needed to be a culture change was easy for tOSU fans once Coop was gone...we craved for change. Few seem to realize what the real problem is up in AA.......and I am hoping they never do
@@quengmingmeow Most Michigan fans know that it's a coaching, player development and culture problem. However there's things that us regular fans cannot control. For example, what really bothers me is how lots of the more elitist season ticket holders sell their tickets to Ohio fans and the there's like 38% red in the stands. That needs to change. Another thing to keep in mind, is that the whole state cannot rally behind michigan for the goal of beating OSU, since it's divided between MSU and Michigan. MSU fans hate Michigan and don't really hate OSU. Really all we can do is just waiting and hope that things change internally within the program which doesnt seem to be likely until a regime change happens which will not be in the foreseeable future as long as they keep winning 9 and 10 games a season. We're literally in college football purgatory.
All Excuses by our fan base...SMDH!!!!it's all about identifying talent and developing it and COACHING!!!!!!...WHICH HE AND HIS STAFF HAVE NOT!!!!!!!!!
tori baker absolutely!
the only identifying and developing they do is planning and executing trips overseas. And harbaugh counting his money.
As a die-hard Michigan fan, I think this podcast was very necessary. The fans that constantly complain and make excuses definitely give the intelligent and rational fans a bad look. Thank you Steve.
Phenomenal analysis as usual Steve. This is the best show on the Internet for Michigan sports.
I'm a buckeye loyal, but this channel has accurate analysis, so I come here to keep tabs on the team up north
He keeps it real and gives the 411 better than anyone agreed
I agree...no more excuses. We are all tired of waiting for next year!!!
How about the fista bowl game got ohio state got a black eye by dabo Swinney
I heard a potentially positive rumor ....Harbaugh has entered the transfer portal.
If any other coach lost 5 straight years to shit show of a team, they would be fired!! Why is harbaugh still here!!????
Michael Rotonda name me one coach that would have beaten ohio state once in the last 5 years with our team
Fball Coach44 Jeff Brohm. He beat them with a Purdue team with way less talent than Michigan has. It’s called out coaching and out playing a team. Apparently Michigan can’t do that anymore......
How can I do that!! I can say who would of, could of, come on.. I can't predict something, but I'm sure there is a coach out there that COULD!! AND DID YOU READ WHAT I SAID... I SAID ANY OTHER COACH WOULD
BE FIRED!! AND YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE.. WHAT DO WE OWE HARBAUGH!! CAN'T YOU SEE , HE WILL NEVER WIN THE BIG 10 Here...you have seen ALREADY what harbaugh is going to give you here... If your satisfied , then great ... He is your man... Congrats on going 9-4 the next 100 years!! Great job!! Good football program.....
Peter Wood he’s one of the fans Steve is talking about.
@@fballcoach447 6th best team in the b1g. Thats pathetic.
When has misseddagain ever been great? Woody won 5 nattys, Tress and Urban 1 each plus getting there in 2006 and 7. Bo went 5 and 12 in bowl games and had to have a plate under his cereal bowl because he kept dropping them. At least Carr shared 1 in 97 and really that is the only time they were great instead of good. Missedagain used to be able to share or win B1G titles that is it, now it can't do that either. 2 and 17 to that continually great team Ohio State Buckeyes is the norm now. Beating MSU will have to do. GO BUCKS!😀
Jim Harbaugh is the 4th best coach in his own family for crying out loud. His dad won a natty, his brother won a super bowl and his brother in-law won the big 10 in basketball.
It would only take John 60 min. to turn this around against OSU.
I am not sure we can really say Michigan has had good QB play this past decade. Sure there have been a few games but I don't think that necessarily means that the play was good. I mean, Shea rarely hit a WR in stride down the field. Shouldn't that be a minimum standard for good QB play?
He had very few instances on fly/vertical routes and those were the ones that he over or under threw his receivers. He was much better this season hitting receivers in stride over the middle and post routes but he could never consistently do it on a vertical route and it's a shame he had all the talent to do so.
Steve, the fans think "everyone cheats" because Jim Harbaugh was the one who offered up that excuse as a reason for his failure.
The truth is, everyone cheats...Including Michigan. Michigan football just doesn't do it well like everything else.
@@MrMabloom He is talking about Michigan fans using Michigan's failures as a reason to make the "everyone cheats but Michigan" excuse. And it is an excuse. It was an excuse offered up by the Head Coach to explain his failures.
@@bubbatha Haha I get it. Michigan's failures have been going on for 20 years. If not longer. Shuffling coaches won't help them. I promise you that. Michigan always sucks. JH was good everywhere accept Michigan. Michigan fans, "boo JH." It's pathetic.
@Peter Wood Honestly 9-10 wins is as good as it get there aside from the random season once every 10 years.
It’s player development.
Finally!!! Players come in 4,5 stars as freshman, and look the same or worse 3 years later
Agreed. And player development falls squarely on coaching.
It also getting football players to stay their seniors year no transferring it killing Michigan football team
Greg Jackson, there are numerous issues but agree that player development is by far the biggest issue....and the qb development tops them, though Gary and Peoples Jones might be sayin "what about me"
@@funat5pm jim Harbaugh played alot of years in the NFL, jim Harbaugh was not a 5 star, or 4 star quarterback etc etc in high school, everybody at Michigan football team is a three star football player plus when you get there, NFL is the same way, cannot be afraid of competition jim Harbaugh teaches it at Michigan to a fault like quarterback transfer in the beginning
I guess I haven't heard that many people complaining about cheating. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places.
@@RequiemForABuckeyeWhy do you spend time on a Michigan Blog?
Go to the reddit sub or mgoblog
@@dtucke17 Probably the same reason Michigan blogs spend time talking about Ohio State.
Michigan would LOVE to have the 'passionate fan' back. They would be tickled to have people PISSED OFF. Because what I'm seeing now is indifference. We've all been beat down so long it's no longer a surprise to lose. You ask most now and it's a shrug of the shoulders and 'what ya gonna do? It's life....' We've LEARNED HOW TO LOSE.
@K Mac you hit the nail right on the head my brother couldn't have said it any better
I’m passionate and PISSED! I’m sick of the participation trophy sanctimonious fans.
In any team sport, any team sport ELITE DEFENSES (and coaches) WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!. If UM had Burrows, Tua or Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson, the last 5 years they still would have lost to OSU etc because their coach and DC cannot teach a modern 21st century defense to talented players . Brown gives up big plays and loses leads in the BIG games. Nor can he adjust at halftime or during the game. There has been good defensive coaches there but they flee Harbaugh & Brown. Dan Marino was amazing but Miami's defense sucked. The 80's Bears? Belichek's defensive genius won those Super Bowls--if the GOAT had played for Detroit? hahahha. Stuck with Brown? He isn't the Pope. Look for 8-4. 7-5
8 - 5 next year... Harbs last year (3rd highest paid coach )
Dwumfour transferring so I think it’s more of a wash in NFL early departures. Also Michigan basketball isn’t going to get past the Sweet Sixteen so we need to lower our expectations to more like 20-11.
One has to wonder what is going through dwumfours brain? You are basically no worse than on the second team line most likely you are a starter. Why are you transferring?
@@blankname6629 , Because he's been passed by a couple of underclassmen.
drkjk even if he has been passed which I don’t think is true. Given that Michigan only has two true dts (mazi Smith has barely played) that are underclassmen that still puts him running with the second unit. It’s weird
we are the most pretentious fan base in the country. we are slightly better iowa. nothing more nothing less. there's no hope because that's who we are. yes every 20 years we will win a rose bowl maybe even beat the buckeyes, but don't pretend that we are an elite program. WE AREN'T.
i'm an alumn during championship era by the way and even that glorious year was only a 1/2 chip. so lame if you think about it.
What team goes to Paris, Rome, South Africa?
What team goes to Indianapolis?
UM sells it's fans snake oil and it's fans buy it all up. 😃
Who thinks those things are mutually exclusive? Morons.
@@michidaddyownscryinday5938 _And I always thought that people who buy up snake oil year after year were morons. I'll let you inform the world_ When has a team that focuses on Paris, Rome and South Africa in the off season EVER beat a team that focuses on Indianapolis in the off season? Show us Rudy! 😃
I wonder what Ohio St, Penn St and Wisconsin are doing when the team is on these boondoggles? Taking those trips does nothing for the product on the field. Think about it.
What a bunch of psychotic morons. LOL
"I understand...we put more of a premium on the term 'student athlete' than they do down south" Steve, that's only true from a fan's perspective. The University of Michigan doesn't hold it's football players to any higher standards than the rest of the Big Ten. It's a fact you only need a 1.8 cumulative GPA to be eligible to play football at Michigan. The only school with higher academic standards is Northwestern.
Preach
Just stop guys. Michigan is right where they should be historically. They haven’t won the B1G in 15 years. Haven’t finished in the Top 5 since ‘99. Only 1/2 National Title in 70 years. They have only ever had 11 or more wins a total of five times. This is exactly what they historically have been post WWII.
The suckeyes have three outright titles in 130 years of football. Two in the 75 years since WWII.
So I guess another choke job against Clemson is what they are.
Rudy Baylor 1942, 57, 61, 68, 02, and 14 are all outright titles, and then 54 and 70 were split. Try again.
Go google “national champions” and the year in which you think you won it. You didn’t win it.
Legitimate National Champions
1942 - Georgia, 9/10 polls, Blowhio didn’t even play in a bowl game
1954 - UCLA 2/3 polls
1957 - Auburn AP
1961 - Alabama 3/4 polls
1970 - Nebraska&Texas 4/5 polls
Denial is a tough way to live😂
Congratulations to the 1970 Nebraska Cornhuskers and Texas Longhorns for sharing the national championship!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
#PoorStoopidMater
#11>3
Dwumfour in the transfer portal! What does that tell you? No expectations for winning anything significant. The culture is not conducive to winning!
Does this mean juwan is cheating? He currently has 4th recruiting class right now and could get better. I know they probably won’t win big ten and go far but juwan already recruiting better than Jim
Yeah every time I hear a Michigan fan complain about cheating, it's like "a member of one of the most corrupt teams ever is your basketball coach"
We have a soft culture not we I mean the team
Steve Deace telling it like it is! The main thing that drives OSU fans to distraction about TTUN is the refusal of the fan-base to tell themselves the truth. The brand is old and tarnished. Nothing done this century. Very little accomplished over the past fifty years. The coach is insufferable and cannot keep his mouth shut.
Did your peepee get any bigger, or is it still tiny?
Michigan's online classes are nationally advertised on TV.
Buckeye fan here, can't say I've been nervous to play against a Michigan team since Devin Gardner. Y'all QB game hasn't intimidated anyone since then
That’s really saying something cause he wasn’t very good and those teams sucked
Justin Troyer Devin Gardner was horrible!
@@iRacerJared , Gardner had the 2013 team a failed 2pt conversion from a win.
That’s a shocker! I haven’t been nervous about OSU game since Rich Rod, the out come has been a forgone conclusion. In my unqualified opinion, it’s all about coaching. We have simply been out coached. Both on the practice field and game day. Our answer to the problem has been to throw tons of money at failure, again and again and again. Which makes me think maybe Michigan, has the wrong people doing the hiring? Maybe it’s time to give some unknown guy a chance? who was that guy that got hired by Minnesota? Go Blue! (John B.)
Justin Troyer why the fuck would any buckeye fan ever be nervous to play a Devin Gardner led team? Lol
It won't matter who are quarterback is harbaugh and his inept staff will not coach them. Harbaugh does not care about football he only cares about being a celebrity, and counting the money he has not earned. He has so much ego he would rather loose than admit things need to change big time starting with the strength and conditioning coach, his inept son coaching running backs, don brown and his fetish for dudes that choke in big games, and their recruiting coordinator who can't identify talent.
Michigan is the number one academic public university? Who are you kidding. Michigan is a really good academic institution, one of several in just the Big Ten. But Number One? More Michigan arrogance!
Love how Michigan still thinks they are a top tier program.
This is why money is the root of all evil and stupidity, and michigan has a lot of money.
I love how obsessed Buttguys are with Michigan. Like, Fatal Attraction level obsessed.
Eddie The Ed it’s great isn’t it.
It’s fun because we don’t have some whiny, excuse-filled dude posting every week saying “if we would have done this or if we would do that we’d be an elite team.”
Yes you do.
“The refs lost the game for us!”
I hear it from every sucknut on the internet.
Great QB's don't make great teams. Great coaches and players around a QB makes a great team. Jake Fromm is not a great QB yet he lead Georgia to a natty appearance. Kelly Bryant is not great yet he lead Clemson to the playoffs as number 1. Bo Nix definitely is not great yet he lead Auburn to a victory over the pack 12 champion in Oregon and Alabama. Minus my last example and all other examples used described elite teams who had non-great QB's.
I heard the DT is transferring to Ohio State, is that true? Mattison getting them boys over to the other side I see
Jimmie Rustler ??
Jimmie Rustler that would confirm that Harbaugh is everything he appears to be in pressers.
Yup and you can look at it on the other side of the coin that you failed to mention which is no surprise. If army wouldn’t have missed that field goal Michigan would have ended the season at 8-4 But it doesn’t matter because they still would’ve been placed in a bowl game they didn’t deserve and have no business being in.
you are correct spartan dog. i am a michigan fan for forty years and just like notre dame, michigans clout gets them bowl games they don't deserve. they get beat and it makes them look bad to potential recruites who only see wins and losses.
I understand that we don't win the big games to get the big recruits but we still need to fire don brown and hire some better recruiters.
diavolos lets not sit here and act like we could go athlete for athlete with clemson and other elite teams. of course the coaching is a big issue but they do have better athletes, and half of the 4 and 5 star guys from our past 2 or 3 classes have transferred. We are recruiting at around a top 10-15 level and thats just not good enough
Which 4 and 5 star recruits you get is also important. All 4 and 5 star athletes are equivalent.
Harbaugh is not as proactive as other coaches like Saban, who have only loyalty to program success and not staff or senior quarterbacks.
This Podcast is the Best!! Thank you Steve, Michael and Brandon!! #GoBlue
Wasn't Harbaugh was suposed to be a qb guru?
Mich getting crushed by Texas at half time 24 - 3. I bet Hardball does not give one crap. He has destroyed Mich future!!
If people have a hard time not overreacting to week #1 then week #2 is sure to do them in.
In your last podcast you seemed to focus on Warren as the main problem. I would say he is the less of their problems.
I'll say this again, this is a really good team that is going to take some time to get to know itself.
A lot of this is going to fall on the coaches. That's my main concern. How they respond.
There is no reason this team can't do what Alabama did last year. Some said it was Saban's best job of coachng.
Not only did they lose to Texas too they had a hard time with South Florida!
Georgia also struggled last year and Alabama almost got to the national championship game
when no one thought they could.
Again I think it really falls on the coaches as this game I think ultimately did.
Michigan was not ready to play that game and that falls squarely on the coaches.
Nick Saban always put the responsibility of losses on himself first.
I've yet to hear any of Michigan's coaches put that loss as starting with them.
This team has the potential to be be in the top 2 or 3 in the country.
Regardless of what people say. Last year it was the players who seemed to run the team. This year at least for now it better be the coaches.
The difference from my eyes is the talent gap and offensive strategy. The reason Bama had been better than most in recent years is because of the talent on the D Line especially the defensive tackle position and O Line with their guards. The tide turned when Clemson and Ohio State were able to recruit these top positions to their teams.
Ohio State is able to stay on top of the Big Ten because they stick with duel threat QBs. Having a running/passing QB with a spread offense opens up more opportunities for scoring. Ohio State wins because their number #1 focus is on the running game. Michigan will not compete until they copy what Ohio State is doing and the change can only come with a Coach that understands that.
This video dated quickly with the Dwumfour transfer. #Oops
I've been saying that this fan base is the whiners and the worst for at least 5 years now...
Michigan Dt in transfer portal
Honestly tell me if I'm a 5 star high school player why I would want to play a Michigan? As long as I would have been born I would not remember Michigan ever being a powerhouse in football or tradition it's been that long folks it's not a dying program it's a dead program
What happened to the podcast? After the loss to m state and Indiana we haven't heard anything from Steve, is he ok? Maybe the Biden victory will bring him around again.
Amen Brother!
Michigan football has been great for 120 years. Stop acting like Harbaugh is only guy that can win at Michigan when every coach but Rich Rod has won here.
I liked what I saw out of Michigan’s offense at the end of the year. This team is an elite QB away from being an excellent team. Imagine LSU without Burrow. They are just an average team. Harbaugh has yet to land a real competitor at that position. Watching Shea hand off on all those read options all year was so annoying. Great kid, but not an elite QB. I think Milton could be the answer with this new system. He may not be elite yet, but he is athletic enough to run this offense.
Buckeye alum and proud. But damn this guy is fucken delight. Brings the hammer when necessary. Clearly he loves his state and team but he's no push over or bullshit artist.
I take it you read been reading Mblog that place is sad
Stadium and Main gives them a run for their money
Preach steve! U picked bama! That's why youbare a fool!
Look how well this aged. Wonderful to see this disgrace of a university football program reach new levels of losing.
Great commentary and right on the money. I do believe that the same fan base that always overrates Michigan is lead down that path by none other than UM itself. It has the top spin machine in the nation.
Common sense will tell you that when your team cheated obviously your going to believe everyone is cheating
This is really tough to swallow but it's 100 pct true: the Detroit Lions with Matthew Stafford would be at most on a neutral field an 11 point underdog to the best teams in the NFL. There's dozens of games of data verifying this. That said Michigan football would have been at minimum 17-point underdogs last night to lsu and probably even closer to 20.
Add it all up and the lowly Lions nowadays have a much better chance of beating the top teams in NFL than Michigan now does in cfb. Just look at the two toughest games they played this year against Green Bay in lambeau and home versus Kansas City and both games went down to the very end. does anyone really think Michigan would play down to the wire games against Clemson and then LSU.
This isn't meant to be a slam on Michigan but instead on college football where the 4 or 5 elite teams have totally separated from the rest of the teams in the country. I don't recall another time before in cfb where a solid program like a Michigan is this far away from beating the elite.
Arthur Fonzarelli You could put Oklahoma, USC, and Notre Dame in that same bucket.
@@ericbrenner690 100 pct agree And would do so for sure. Sad when we wait all year for playoffs and a powerhouse program like Oklahoma is hopeless against an elite team just like Notre Dame has shown in past few years. Whole thing sucks imo
I'm not offended but I do Steve is we do have to the U-M.,Athl.Dept. I believe that Michigan needs a coaching change.
There are too many feminists up at Michigan. That's why you lose.
is this a replay? think I've seen this at least twice.
Doesn't whining about whining make you the bigger whiner?
Every wonder why Gary didn’t take 200k to go an SEC school and went to Michigan?
Cody Ingle yep!
Thanks for posting a rerun
There was a huge talent gap when other big ten teams beat ohio state. huge talent gap between Michigan and the teams that beat them.
So it is a talent gap then that means it's coaching then.
You keep firing coaches and it will make recruiting really challenging. The area I fault Harbaugh is the shit coaching staff.
@Andy Gygi Harbaugh should adapt to this, it happens often in the NFL. I thought he was bringing in professionalism to Ann Arbor. Other than that Harbaugh is being successful.
I have never heard anyone say that!! So I think your out of touch.. Cause your a harbaugh lover, and you just can't understand that this man must go!! Forget Ohio st.. He can't beat any good team.. He has never win a big game since he was here... Wake up!! Face the reality of the situation
The sad part is you can already see the writing on the wall for next season...at least 3-4 losses and another azz whooping down in the toilet bowl...what will the excuses be then?
Let’s get every Michigan player in online masters courses. Joe burrow thank you for showing us the way to going from undrafted qb to first overall pick. Let’s stop practicing football and get these guys all laptops.
Love your podcast Steve!!!
Just FYI Michigan Football players are prohibited from taking online courses... I can’t speak to the graduate players cause I don’t know...
Peter Wood oh I’m not saying that makes us better and/or means that’s why we’re not over the hump... it’s just a fact
Peter Wood agree 💯 my friend... I’m done with Hands-on-the-knees-can’t-motivate-and-don’t-care-7million a year-loser... Harbs needs to go
Hi, Steve this 2020 season I'll be paying close attention, to U-Minn.can you the riddle the reason why.
Leave our coach alone lol
Not only do the best teams have the best qbs but their qbs are also dual threats to a certain extent. burrow and lawrence can both run pretty well. we need an elite dual threat qb and unfortunately harbaugh doesn't recruit those
It won't make us elite. Barrett at OSU was not a good passer, but was successful, because they had great teams. Michigan doesn't have the foundation. They dont have the elite player development that OSU has and the coaching and culture.
Brettwbeyer14 You're right they also dont have the foundation, but we are definitely going to need an elite qb to resurrect us
Michigan is a basketball school, not a football school, so what does it matter?
@Peter Wood as an outsider, I'm not paying him anything. I don't have a horse in this race. It just seems that M is more enthusiastic about hoops than football. The football program has been living off the glory it garnered in the pre-forward pass era. The blue bloods brought in Harbaugh to resurrect the golden years. In doing so, they were smelling their own farts, believing a "Michigan Man" could be the second coming. If they want to win big games, they need to do what they did to become a brand and hire a coach from Ohio, since that is where their legendary coaches and players hailed from. If they were serious about football, Jim would already be looking for a job in the NFL.
After Iowa takes the back to the shed Friday I'll pass on being a basketball school...Teske the softer then charmin lol
DMac will open eyes!
That should tell you that was not Horribaugh, Luck was a generational talent, Kap and Smith had Roman. Absent QB and overall player development. Ready to criticize the basketball JH, but, the other one gets a football pass, because..... C'mon Blue!
You are the whiner though Steve, I never hear about cheating
He has does his share, no doubt.
2016...
On the subject of QB, I'd really hope to see Cade McNamara or Joe Milton step up next year and show something amazing. Unless McCaffrey suddenly bulks up I feel he's just going to get hurt again.
Mich lost to 4 top 10 teams.
BAMA was #3 or 4 in power ranking and MI was head up in first half. Then stopped playing hard.
Beat 2 top 16 teams.
DPJ not concerned about being 3rd. Just watch his body language in BAMA game when he was 5 yards open and not targeted.
Patterson never played a full good game against a good team.
McNamara has a great touch and choosing the right target with accuracy is what Burrows did and good teams did against Michigan.
Who played 6 top 16 teams this year?
It is ridiculous to say experience and age doesn't matter!! How stupid is that?!!? Joe Burrow went from good last year to other-worldly this season because he had a years experience under his belt. And to say you have a good stable of running backs coming back, you are blind! Those dudes couldn't do anything last year with an experienced line.
Still trying to compensate for that tiny peepee, huh?
@@-SMACKDOWN Must also have a graduate degree from the world's top public university.
No, not the top. We were only ranked the number two public university in the country.
By the way, where would you guess shithole state u. is ranked? I’ll give you a hint:
Add a hundred and keep going. I’ll let you know when you get there.
😀
I was born in Ohio and I am a Buckeye fan but I also lived in Ann Arbor for 20 years and was close to the UM football program. I can tell you UM's problems are certainly not a lack of donor money nor alumni involvement nor facilities. I can also tell you the biggest problem I have seen over the last 15 years is not a lack of cheating. It is not recruitment/ rankings. The real problem for Michigan is a LACK OF PLAYER DEVELOPMENT. My favorite UM player was Mike Hart but Michigan hasn't devised a system nor developed a RB since (that was 13 years ago). Michigan had some great recruitment classes and blue chip players that the Buckeyes would love to have. But Harbaugh and those before him have done a marginal job at best with what they recruited. You have to own it. You have to make changes. If you settle then stop whining.
Bo didnt win a natty so..... anyway goblue
Amen Steve. You start each show with a Bo pep talk. You don't see Jimmy giving those kinds of talks cuz he's not that kind of coach. Their players are good enough to make the playoffs, the coaches aren't getting them there. Listen to ex players on various podcasts talk about what they are seeing on the field; the lack of player leadership, the poor execution and choices, untying shoe laces and jumping off sides in critical times....these are not the characteristics of a championship program. Jimmy is a treasure trove of football knowledge, that's part of what makes a coach great. He lacks the other part, the Bo part, getting the max out of his players and getting them to enforce the team discipline themselves. Ward worshipping at Jimmy's feet doesn't spell long-term success, he doesn't have the stones to do what's necessary to get the team to elite status.
LOLOL started out as whiners and worst, devolved into more if if if " we woulda have AT MINIMUM beat Penn St, Wisconsin , went to Cotton Bowl" yadayadayada. The delusion will NEVER end lolol
Brother, LSU has 3 National titles in the last 17 years! Of course they lose a few, they play a real schedule. BTW: UCLA is rated #1 on some lists.
The reason why the elite teams have went up another notch from the past is they used to always get the best overall players BUT they never had the best quarterbacks especially passing ones.
Just look back at all the qbs at Bama, Ohio State and LSU in the past who made it to the NFL, there's not very many. That's what changed a few few years ago as now they not only have the best players all over the field but they combined them now with the top quarterbacks. This is why these teams are at higher levels than they've ever been before.
The elite nfl first rnd quarterback is often the difference between a top ten program and a championship. However, Michigan I dont think is ready yet to take that leap if they get that qb. Barrett under OSU along with Cardale Jones were not elite QBs, but behind a great system, great team and coaching were able to win the national championship in 2014 and were elite in 2015, 2016 and 17. Having a more disciplined team with good player development is really most important for Michigan to compete with the elites right now.
@@Brettwbeyer14 yeah I don't think they're going to compete with them either with the top quarterback but it will narrow the gap obviously. The gap is so large right now it's going to take more than one player. What sucks is the elite are showing no signs of coming back to the pack either as Clemson just signed 11 of top 100 guys this class, Michigan signed 1.
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 yep. Winning helps recruiting. Recruiting helps winning. Hopefully one of these 2 quarterbacks turns out to be enough of a difference maker to help their recruiting rise a notch.
@Peter Wood And you conveniently didn't read what I said. Why?
@Peter Wood the problem is you can't compete with these top teams now in recruiting not with the state of Michigan being your home base. Clemson has 7 of the top 30 players in the 2020 class Michigan has one of the top 100. No coach in college football is going to break through getting that less talent nowadays. Over half the top 100 recruits are going to five schools only.
I hear a lot about our own failures. I dont hear very much about cheating.
When Tom Brady retires, Harbaugh should immediately hire him as Michigan’s QB coach and help with some of the play callings. In that time he should try to get Charles Woodson to the Corners, safety m, DE and LB coaching job. If Harbaugh has just those two guys on his staff could you imagine the talents they would bring in as far recruiting? It’s a Must Must to help save and go from good to elite.
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Never happen. harbaugh won't tolerate anyone who knows more than him. he has too much ego. that is why we lost jedd fisch, wheatly, mattison, and partridge, and so many recruites. I hate to say it but if harbaugh and staff were a ship i would stay very close to the life boats. This whole michigan man or nothing crap is so inbred nothing is going to change until the culture changes.
Dwumfour transferring
Ya seriously when did they record this show
@@dbeck989 well it takes time to record, edit, process, and then upload it. I'd guess earlier this morning.
DWumfour transferring really hurt Michigan football team, Michigan really needed him
James Yoder trashed spath like a dog
The wolverine is a joke
SPath a joke
Balas is living joke!
I destroyed u on Facebook Steve
TREAL CITY so where’s your show?
Sure you did.........then you woke up
I’m sorry Steve. I’m still offended you guys beat us. 😭
NotreDameDude88 not just beat, but rather pummeled and dismantled you guys
sooooooo good
Could ohio state have won the national champ if they kept Joe Burrow?
Man, me and my Buckeye friends have been agonizing over this question the last month. I honestly would say no. Burrow enjoyed a phenomenal team around him. He had NFL players protecting him and 4 NFL WR's to throw to.
You compare that to our team this season and we really had three standouts who made it to the NY stage but the offensive line gave no where near the time for Fields as Burrow enjoyed. We have a couple great WRs but honestly I don't think we could've stopped their offense last night. We also learned that Chase was somewhat over-rated as he disappeared against better teams. Burrow's transferring was a great move on his part.
Yeah we’ve never been hung up on burrow. Everybody knows the story of why left and how he got beat out. Sure it would’ve been nice to have him but it what it is. We wouldn’t of gotten fields and burrow would be gone next year and we wouldn’t have fields. Everything worked out for Ohio State just fine.
Steve wiltfrong says michigan just dosent recruit that hard, that's on them
Michigan invented going to satellite camps 50 in one year. So much that the NCAA changed that rule. Very few recruit harder than Michigan
@@nicholastaiariol2631 the national recruiting director at 247 said that michigan dosent prioritize recruiting like osu and psu it's why osu has separated and why psu has passed michigan recently
Online classes are still difficult. In my opinion they are harder than in-person classes because you are completely responsible for all the content for a semester. All the people whining about them have probably never stepped foot in a University classroom
Hoke left a talented roster and Harbaugh took it to an elite level. The reason he loses is he because the best players are on the bench. Joe Milton, McGrone, Hinton...
When u get a 5 star guy play him from day 1 because after 3 years if he's any good he will leave for the nfl.
Rashon Gary came to Mich. for academics but left after 3 yrs - lol
Unfortunately the term student athlete is a myth.
Whiners and worst for sure! Go Bucks!
Nick congratulations you’re butthurt
Go Bucks...still butt hurt after what Clemson did to ya little fella?
Curt C not at all. Still mad about 15 of the last 16 years? That’s obvious considering the fact that you’re living vicariously through Clemson cause your team can’t beat Ohio State. 😂
Who said I was a Michigan fan? It's you big mouthed buckeye fans that can't seem to win the big one...when you can...little fella then we'll listen to your tripe.
Curt C seeing as how my comment triggered you, and you’re commenting on a ttun channel, it’s pretty obvious you’re a fan of ttun, little fella. Don’t be so butthurt. You’ll win one eventually, little fella.
Joe Milton and Dylan McCaffrey are good QBs! They just lack experience. Harbaugh has not started a QB that he has recruited in 5 years now. No more grad transfers please. I thought shae wouldnt be good enough from the beginning.. and unfortunately i was right. If Dylan has even 70% of his brother's talent he will have an unreal year. And Joe Milton has a cannon! Ive wanted to see these guys play since they set foot on campus.
Steve made this up.... I've never heard Michigan fans saying any of this stuff. I used to enjoy the show, now I'm on the verge of unsubscribing.. He's more of an outsider than an insider and he NEVER has any breaking news.
I think Jim need to go hire an passing game coordinator. Move Anthony Campanile to safety coach and Bush to the LB coach. Then I say we could go 11-1 or 12-0. A lot of teams we have on our schedule do not have a lot of experience.