The Terrible 1871 Wickenburg Stagecoach Attack. OUT ON THE TRAIL.
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Where were they buried? The few cookie crumbs I could uncover:
1. Based upon a letter that William Kruger wrote for Loring’s father, 5 of the men who died at the scene were reportedly buried in Wickenburg on November 6th, 3 hours after a hastily called inquest.
2. The 6th man, William Salmon, was not discovered until the morning of the 6th and was reportedly buried in a “deep cut in the hillside.”
3. Later reports claim that his remains were exhumed from the hillside and laid next to the other 5 men several weeks or months later.
4. For unexplained reasons, the local graves of these men were reportedly “disturbed” in 1949 and then disappeared from local records
5. The original location of their presumed graves in Wickenburg is a matter of some conjecture, but would likely have been either the Stone Park Cemetery or the so-called “Lumber Yard” Cemetery (the present location of the Wickenburg Sun).
6. No other public cemeteries were known to exist at that time and there is no documented proof establishing either cemetery as the burial site for the victims.
7. Another speculation is that Henry Wickenburg may have donated space for the burials in his private plot.
8. According to one of the books I researched, “The bodies of the five victims, which were immediately taken to Wickenburg, were interred side by side in the southeast corner of the private graveyard set aside by Henry Wickenburg.”
9. But if this was the site of interment the graves are no longer there.
10. In the years that followed, the remains were said to have been exhumed and re-interred at least twice to new locations.
11. The last re-interment may have returned the remains to the original site of the ambush - at least according to legend.
12. All that said, there’s a very good chance that they are still buried here.
Unfortunately, there are no burial records.
And so it is for poor Molly Sheppard.
No picture, no grave…
All apparently lost to the Sands of Time.
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It's so refreshing to hear the confidence of calling out someone on a unacceptable behavior. Thank you ❤
"Space-cowgirl, i'll bet we weren't ready for that! [I'm sure you know where it's at, ya, ya."]
I agree. People need to be called out on being rude and having ugly behavior.
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I smell a large rat and read from very gullible commenters.
unless your job is law enforcement, and which case the customer is always wrong
That was a very riveting history lesson. The scenery was like it looked when this event happened. I enjoyed this very much, but feel sorry for the victims how terrifying it must have been for all of them.
What a great period picture of Frederick Loring and a great story! Apparently, this photo, with his mule, named Evil Merodach, was taken a mere 48 hours before his death. That young man had an entire life of accomplishment ahead of him. It was snuffed out in an instant in the middle of nowhere.
Sad.
I just love your voice & the way you tell a story, Ron. Thank you!
thank you Lesa!
I live in Minnesota. We have a site out by Howard Lake, Mn. In the 1800’s there was a family moving by buck board from one small town to the other. They were driving across the prairie. Several Native Americans approached them and killed the family. This happened during the Indian uprising in Minnesota at the same time of the Civil War. I believe one of the children survived. The rest were buried in the cemetery.
I am actually doing a story there, it was the Sioux, and Dakota but it’s not that story it’s a different one. But Yep I’ll be passing through there next week
@@FacesoftheForgotten There’s lots of stories in Minnesota because of the Sioux uprising. Thanks for coming to Minnesota to do a story. It will be interesting to hear your story and to find out if I know it. Take Care
I will be looking forward to these stories too. There is a museum that my 4th grade class went to. It has a real stage coach in it that people were murdered in by cowboy bandits. The blood stains of the victims are still visible.
@@IamSquirrel Hi, where is this museum? Thanks
@@donnaboisen6003 it’s the Northwest Museum of Arts and Culture in Spokane Washington. It’s also in a historical district. I don’t live there but will travel across the state to see new things there. The Campbell House next to it is also a must see.
Thank you for telling the story of these brave people. Each individual contributed to “history” in this country. It was heartbreaking and frightening to understand what they went through. I appreciate the way you presented with such respect and honor. The location seemed haunting! R.I.P.
I love the different terrain you take us too Ron. Beautiful scenery and captivating stories. What more could a 'girl'who loves history from the UK ask for! ❤
Can you imagine the lack of comfort having to ride in a stagecoach over that terrain! Thank you for the history lesson Ron, may they RIP
It had to be a horrible ride. But they knew no difference. That was the way to travel.
Lots of babies were born on those stage routes back then I would imagine.
Good to see places like this still exist ! Reminds me of Moosehead Lake region in maine that’s god’s country up there nothing but trees and wildlife for miles and miles we did some fishing there by a logging road and during whole day we only saw 1 vehicle go by and that was a logging truck! Streets don’t even have names they are numbers and letters! 😂
Those Calvary guys must have been some tough men.
It would beat walking or on horseback. Stagecoaches actually road pretty nice.
Thank you Ron for this great story. May they all Rest in Peace. Stay safe out there.
Very very interesting. There is no way I could visit this site due to my age, so THANK YOU very much for sharing this video!!
Can't wait! Hope everyone is having a great Sunday! I'm up in Bar Harbor ⚓ Maine for supper. Route #66! Then will be looking for this episode 😎
Thanking you from the core of my ❤️. I truly appreciate you.⚘️🌻😔
When i heard this story, I tried to picture what it was like in the stagecoach out there..the landscape os is beautiful. But what terror awaited them . I was riveted to this story. Felt so bad about their fate and the horses too. It was so amazing to see you tell us the story right on the spot, unchanged by time. Thank you Ron for all of the research and taking us out there!
Thank you so much for your research and sensitive manner in which you explained this incident. As a former resident of Tucson, I have always held a place in my heart for historical facts regarding my home State. You've done a great service to the memory of the victims. May they all rest in peace.
Thank you so much for your daunting task of bringing these dear ones to our mind's eye. I've watched another one of your stories about Lavinia Eastlick. Both are very meaningful to me as I used to live in Minnesota and Arizona. You have put so much work into these memories, yet I feel it makes your heart sing❤. What a labor of love!
Thank you for showing the ride. I'm from NM, and I love the reminisce of my youth and riding on dirt bikes. Called toolie hopping
Ron. Thank you for all your research and hard work bringing this to us. In a day and time when this world is upside down and so depressing our time with you is both refreshing and greatly appreciated each sunday evening.
That was an amazing video and story. I never heard of it. You continually surprise me with your attention to detail, although I shouldn’t be by now. You would be an awesome tour guide. Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos and for putting up with snooty sales people. They give a bad name to those that genuinely care about customer service.
A story that needs to be remembered. Kevin Howe was murdered on the side of the road outside of Wickenberg. Killer was never found. He went to Saguaro HS in Scottsdale. He got off of work at Cocos on Scottsdale Road and was on his way to his mother who was a nurse at Kingman Regional Medical center. He never made it. He’s buried in Kingman. His mother died heartbroken.
I had my oldest daughter in Kingman at Kingman Regional Medical Center. My family owned a TV service shop on Beale St. I’m so sorry to hear about this story as well. 💔😔
His case is still unsolved. I spoke with a detective from Yavapai County about it twice. He looked into it. He called me a few weeks later told me it’s going to be unsolved until someone speaks up about it. He pulled over at the Baghdad turn off to rest. Someone shot him through the driver’s side window. They stole $90 dollars tip money he earned at Cocos the night before. So tragic. I went to school with him. He’s been forgotten to time. I don’t even remember what year it happened. I should visit his grave in Kingman. I think it was 1979…
So sad😢
Thank you for bringing this story, Ron. So many places in Arizona that have such stories. Being a native Arizonan, my grandparents and parents knew of many places where such things happened, especially in the desert. Take care, Ron and thanks again.
I just absolutely love how exhuberant you are when telling these stories! It's beyond me how some people find the history of our nation, our world boring or dry. They didn't have you as their teacher;)
Interesting story Ron...Thanks for sharing!!!!!!
Thanks Ron for telling this story. The place looks much as it was at the time. Quite terrifying and tells us what people endured in those times.
Wow! Ron, that was quite the story, those poor people being trapped like that and can't defend themselves, the poor horses too. I"ve never heard that story before thank you for sharing it with us. Well done. Take care, be safe.
I've watched Western movies all my life, and could never help but think about how confused the poor horses must've been from time to time...
Hi 👋 everyone watching from Sallisaw Oklahoma how is everyone doing tonight
Outstanding effort to revive/recreate the history of the area. Thank you for the research. If you’re so inclined, you may want to look into the Walnut Grove/ Hassayampa River Dam break of 1890. That’s one heck of a story.
A man on horseback was dispatched to warn people downstream, but he got drunk instead.
Cheers.
Thank you so much Ron for telling the very brave story of all those men and a lady on the stage coach. One can only guess the pain they went through during this attack, with no help forthcoming. RIP to all those slaughtered on that day.
I bet driving that Polaris was so much fun...
What a story! Thanks Ron for once again taking us along on another amazing journey back in time.
Love these interesting history lessons, and the amazing places we get to see, thanks for all your hard work and sharing this fabulous story ❤️😊❤️
My great aunt was born just west of Flagstaff along what is now I-40. In 1969, when I was 10, I remember her telling me how, as a young girl (born late 1880's) how scary it was to see the Indians in town. It was that very same generation who moved on to the reservations after just such a reign of terror. My great grandpa had been in Dodge City Kansas most of the '70's and '80's. Eventually they settled in San Diego. He traveled a lot by stage coach in those days. He was well known in Dodge as a blacksmith and sheriff. His coming and going would be noted in the papers there. It was amazing to me to read how bad weather conditions could be. Of course, this sort of danger was real too. Thank God for their hardiness and strength of will. And God bless all. Thank you for posting. Been through Wickenburg many times over the years as a trucker.
This is so sad. What a rough life. God Bless them all. Thanks for sharing Ron..
❤hi Ron thanks for a very interesting video. So sad for all these people. 🙏 . Stay safe.❤
Awesome glimpse into the past! Such a sad story! RIP to all! Thank you for sharing!! Love the way you tell the stories of lives long gone and bringing them back, even if just for a moment!!! Keep up the great work!!
COOL TRAGIC STORY OF THE WILD WEST. I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF LORING IN MANY BOOKS BEFORE!!!!
love that history and walking in the footsteps like you have. Makes one feel as if they were there.
Wow, Ron, you went all out on this video. It was fantastic and just another one of your best. After seeing videos like this, I'm just so grateful to be born in the modern age. I love your ride! How do you even GPS a place like this to get to the site?! A - 1 video Ron! Thank you!
I have a handheld GPS from my expeditions so I can go to the north pole if I want and it works because it’s connected to the satellites 😀👍
I’m glad you liked this adventure Flo!!
Thanks for sharing this very interesting story! I've never heard about it.
Waiting for the book to be delivered to Puerto Rico to start reading 📚
Thank you for telling this story of the old West. I know very little of the old West except for movies.
Very interesting, Have you read about the - Canyon Springs station stagecoach robbery in westen county wyoming? Or the Metz family massacre south west of custer sd. all good reads. i live roughly 20 miles from both.
Hi, Ron. Wow that seemed like a long ride. Could you imagine riding in a stage coach. How bumpy & how dusty. Hoping you reach your destination.
Thank You Ron... Many years ago i travelled from Vancouver to Seattle and on wards through Butte Spokane etc finally crossing the Border to Canada and my destination Montreal...How i marvelled at the bravery.. tenacity.. courage.. one could go on.. of those first Settlers. I so enjoy your excellent video's...Thank you again.
Beautifully told and produced - love the video! Also, I actually needed the recommendation at the beginning, thank you - I appreciate the info!
This was so incredibly interesting. Love history. Ron u do such a great job telling the stories. I tried to imagine being there. How horrible it had to been. Thank you again Ron. Take care. ❤️
a very good video ; excellent content ...
thank you for your work ❤😊
we love the History stories of the Old West
Thank you so much for sharing this history with us. I for one would never be able to go and see for myself. May God keep you safe during all your adventures ❤
Ron . this video of yours tops all I was very impressed by this one , you should come to montana and do a few. Videos on the town of Bannack , and the highway men , sheriff who was running a crew of criminals ,, they were all hung, graves still there. THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA.....
Hello from Noblesville, Indiana!
Wow Ron! Thanks for taking us along on that ride and hike. And for sharing a part of history I have never heard before. You always have a way of telling it; so I can see it all unfolding like a movie. Be safe on your trip to The Dakotas. 🙏 ❤️ 💙 💜 💖
I hope you are having a good one too! I know it will be a great episode, like always
My sister lived in Wickenburg for many years until she passed away. Great place for history!! The mine outside of town is interesting and the museum in town is awesome.
Awesome… thanks buddy…
great job, love the channel as I'm in Yorkshire UK but love the days from the civil war up to the American Wild west we seem to be a different world today. So thanks for anyone telling these stories from time gone by be it RUclips vids to book, movie or papers Love It : )
I enjoy all of your videos, and the ones where the original site remains undeveloped are especially interesting. With the landscape, your vast historical knowledge and masterful storytelling, one gets transported back in time as though a witness to very event.
Greetings from England Ron, thanks for the telling of history on the very ground it happened.
Thx for the vid. The only thing wanting is a reference map, or at least the mention that this site is not many miles Northwest of Scottsdale, Arizona. If you mentioned this, I missed it!
Dear Ron I just watch your video, Thank you telling us all their story! I appreciate all the work and time you put in your video, I always enjoyed history all my life! Dear Ron please stay safe on your road trip, Rest in Peace to All!❤️🙏🙏👏
Thank you for this journey into the past! It might be nice to try and followup who placed those interpretation signs to see if the missing ones can be replaced. Perhaps a local museum group or maybe a fellow enthusiast of history like yourself. It is a very important window on a past event. All the best to you and yours, and thank you for all you do in bringing these stories to us.
This is a very interesting story. The times back then were such hard times to live, a lot of suffering.
Glad you shared this story and took us to the actual site where it happened Ron.
Keep yourself safe out there on your journeys Ron.🙂💟
Wonderful story Ron ❤ Thank you
I've been to Wickenburg and man, I can feel the heat from here! Interesting story. Thanks for the back-country tour!! I never would have seen all that without you.
Thank you! I really enjoyed the story.
I bet most of the killed were buried right there even if they had 4 in coffins in Wickenburg and then brought back to this site for burial. RIP to all.
Well done Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for this story and the way you shared it, amazing 🤗 🙏
wow, very interesting but sad story and a really great video. thanks for sharing.
love from Holland
How is everyone doing? Sorry to miss everyone at FOTF? Catching replay and I am intrigued with history and this is so much history! Ron, as usual great location, story, tragedy, and adventure's with you are fun😅😂😂😊 Thanks, fabulously told!
It was a very interesting story. How sad it was that these people were going on with their daily lives and all of a sudden it was cut short.
That's the wild west for ya!
Correct, in the middle of the Indian Wars. 6 yr later "Battle of Little Big Horn" ! That's how reckless mankind was. What was going on in Russia then ? Kulacs and Casacks fighting Muscovites and Jews of course. Man can't pull out of your sheath long enough to stop the massacre of his children.
Hi Ron, I was born and raised in Tucson. I am now in Washington state, but i really miss my home state. Welcome to Az. I recently dog sat in Phoenix and as a side trip went to Oatman, on the old Route 66. Loved it there. Lots of wild burros that roam that area. You might want to take a day trip to visit this area. I love your stories😊.
I can blow Kruger's story to shreds just by his letter to the paper. I'm a horseman. I've road horse and pulled wagons with horse. Once one of the lead horse's are down, that wagon isn't going no 20 yards. Recently Budwieser lost their lead horse and it went down. All the other horses could do was jam up and mill about. Gen. Crooke was a very fair compadre to the natives and me being a native Arizonian i've read everything ever wrote about him and there is nothing about this mentioned. Personally after hearing this tale, i believe that Kruger did have something to do with it. Plus, the natives had no need for the money or the yellow metal. The greed of the white man.
Good possibility
If the horses were harnessed together and the harness was intact after the horse was shot, you are right, they couldn't go 100 yds. They would have been all tangled up.
Thank you for knowledge 😊
They're going to lose ALL their horses..
The author assumed that the reader would understand that the horses were shot and made it about 20 yards before they dropped bringing the coach to a halt.
You have no argument.
BRILL ! boy with toys & a history lesson too, rock on ron boy !!
Superb work, as always ❤❤❤
so interesting…thanks for taking us along on your adventure 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing this sad portion of history.
Thanks Ron for an interesting story... life was a lot tougher then. Take care.
Wow Ron got me all teary eyed with this story. Well done Sir!!!
Thank you for another great piece of history that isn’t widely known, like many of your videos.
I especially enjoy the older stories from the 19th century and early 20th.
Thank you for all you do!!
Hi Ron 👋 thankyou for this interesting and also sad story.😢 Just listening to you read that letter made me think of how alone and lonely this place was in the 1870's and maybe today. Molly had some guts going on that trip. I'm sad for the lives lost. I'm just wondering if this is the type of thing that would be taught or covered in schools in the 🇺🇸 USA ? As I'm in Australia 🇦🇺. Take care many blessings 🙏🙏🙏✨️❤️❤️❤️
No, this type of history is not taught in U.S. schools. Very little is taught of the Indigenous and what has been taught is being found to be incorrect. Schools ⁸⁸⁷in a might have taught something specifically about person from the "wild west" but that was about it.
Thanks for that, it's very interesting both this story and your answer. I'm in my late 50's and we weren't taught a lot about Australia's first people however there was a huge movement here in the Capital by the Aboriginals to ask for their land back. In the 70's they set up camps opposite Parliament House and were there for years. When my daughter attended school they were teaching all about how we stole the land. But they didn't teach our children about early settlement of white people. It has swung a complete 360 degrees. All focus is on the first Australians. Sorry I'm trying not to offend anyone here. In high school I took a class called Colonial America 🇺🇸 and really loved it. Thankyou 🙏
Your welcome! I'm a history buff and Lakota Sioux as well. Asking questions is learning! AIM american Indian movement gained momentum in the 70s here as well. Something you might be interested in is MMIW missing and murdered indigenous women. The struggle is still going on!
Shoot, this was almost as good as a John Wayne movie! Good video Ron. Thanks ❤
I'd be more worried about rattlesnakes than ants lol! Absolutely love these type of videos, Thanks Ron! Stay safe friend!
I've been a desert rat (hiking & exploring) all my life and in 60s years I've only run across three rattlers, two scorpions, mountain lion tracks and maybe fifteen non-rattlesnakes. Nowadays I'd be more concerned about the bee situation. 🐝 They aren't well bee-hived because of their socialist agenda. 😂
@@Iconoclasher 😂😂😂
I grew up in Arizona and live here still, but I never heard of this before. Thank you so much for paying attention to our state. So many great stories and history here. This was a rough, rough place back in the day. I guess that's the reason we were the last territory to make statehood in the lower forty eight.
Thanks. Well get ready for a lot of stories there and the surrounding states that are close because I bought a house there last year, which has been planned for the last 20 years and I’ve been coming out there the last 30 years, so I’m very excited - and next winter I’ll be there full-time, well just for seven months out of the year but I’m gonna be doing a lot I’ve got a ton of stories I’ve collected over the last 20 years, some of you have heard of, but many you have not 👍
@@FacesoftheForgotten years ago my husband worked for a gold mine near there. He was born in Snowflake. We live in Utah now.
great narrative !...thank you for taking us on the journey with you !
Wow. Thankyou for the trip out there and the riveting story.
Hi from Miss. I love your shows❤️
Greetings from Louisiana 🍾
You really took us back there! Thank you, Sir!
Thank you for sharing this piece of history and the time you spent. 🤠🤠
Thanks for taking us to the site and telling the sad story. The stage coach riders are still being remembered.
Wow! Rough times back then. So sad.
Hi Ron - What a Great story. Although it was sad I really enjoyed the the History and the Beautiful scenery there. Thank you Ron for sharing a Great Walk a Bout 👍 ⭐
I love your stories. This one was especially interesting to me. Thank you for the research and time put in to tell the stories.
Excellent and thank you: Can not imagine anyone traveling unarmed at that time in history . Look forward to your next adventure . Well done . The way history should be told.
That's a thoughtful and meaningful initiative. Supporting the effort to provide gravestones for those without markers can indeed help preserve and honor their memory. It's a way to ensure that individuals who might otherwise be forgotten are remembered and acknowledged.
I went there several years ago as one of my sisters and her husband owned but sold that home a few years ago and purchased another near Casa Grande. I loved that town and we visited several attractions there and nearby. The museum there is wonderful.
Thanks for sharing ron
Regardless where their all buried may they all R.I.P,thanks Ron for showing us all,safe travels stay well ,👋👋🙏🙏👍🇦🇺
Thank you very much for this story. I really enjoyed this , it was very interesting. I love stories like this and it did look very peaceful there. Thanks again ❤
I was born and raised in Arizona, and I have never heard of this. When I was 8, I lived on the San Carlos Indian reservation and went to school with them. My dad worked at the Dam and we lived just above Coolidge Lake in what is known now as Sodacanyon Complex. Thank you for this bit of Arizona history.
Wow what a story! Great work, as always! And on a personal note, thanks for bringing back memories of my days in college working for Polaris in Vermillion, South Dakota! 😊
Wow talk about dedication, rents an ATV so he can take us along on this adventure!! Great story Ron! I'm trying to figure out how they dug graves in that rocky terrain? RIP to the weary travelers that never made it out!!
Brilliant story, love to hear and see the actual locations of the old west stories.