Susan Lorincz manslaughter trial: Victim's children expected to take stand

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @karenhawkins4493
    @karenhawkins4493 2 месяца назад +83

    does anyone else think she had this planned all along? Just from her comments about looking up stand your ground laws prior to this makes me think she did.. She did not need to be living around kids especially kids of a different race, I'm white and I 100 % think she's racist...

    • @JoyceHyatt-e6t
      @JoyceHyatt-e6t 2 месяца назад +1

      She couldn't have planned it unless she knew the person.

    • @theresaterry164
      @theresaterry164 2 месяца назад +19

      @@karenhawkins4493 I agree! Susan started this battle and she wasn’t going to stop before she felt she won. So sad for these children! All over noise…. Now she will learn what noise is.

    • @mzwop883
      @mzwop883 2 месяца назад

      Raciest she is and she thought it out yes! She already made threat to kill

    • @theman8629
      @theman8629 2 месяца назад +3

      THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HONESTY

    • @sheliadrennan653
      @sheliadrennan653 2 месяца назад +3

      Such a sad thing her lifes over she should be retired sitting haven tea with family and friends going to church just being free....But no she killed their mother for no reason just to be mean just to out a child...so sad to lose a mother

  • @Kimmy234L
    @Kimmy234L 2 месяца назад +88

    1. It's vry important the issue with her very wishy washy and contradicting statements about her phone. In the 1st interview she replied to the detective "No I didn't call 911 again because my phone was in the kitchen, and that was too near to the front door."
    ....later...where was your phone, where did you find it?..."It was in the computer room"....2nd interview I couldn't find my phone.
    2. Her stalking, videoing the children right up the fatal shooting, did not show the children outside or on her property ...last time stamp 8.53pm. It also didn't show them shouting and screaming. So her 1st 911 call at 8.54 to 8.59pm was a Big Lie.
    3. 1st interview the door had extended deadbolts....the 2nd - I was in fear, the door was damaged the deadbolts weren't locked.
    4. The TWO Guns....she purchased 2 guns within months of the shooting. She also CHOSE which one to use at that fatal time. She then put the SELECTED gun of choice back, but UNDER the other gun....
    5. She researched terminology of Stand Your Ground Reasonings/Defence prior to the shooting.
    6. She admitted to the victim that she did call the Victim's boys Slaves, and apologised....but when further questioned about this, she claimed she apologised just to diffuse the situation.....
    7. The LETTER to the Victim's Children regarding their tragic life changing loss.....well the so called letter/note spoke volumes. I hope they decided not to read that to tge children.
    8. The time from her 1st call which ended 8.59pm to the 2nd call at 9.01pm...she managed managed to listen to the victim, tell the victim to go away, wait until the second pounding on the door, scramble around to find her phone, which she couldn't find, go into her bedroom, rummage in her Trash bin where she kept the 2 guns and paperwork. Then select which gun she wanted to use, come back into the Kitchen...remember she already said she DIDN'T want to go into the kitchen to find the phone because it was too near the front door!... position herself, take aim with both hands and shoot at chest level through the door...
    To me, in my own opinion she planned this for some time, and set the victim up with a serious reason for her to come to her apartment....the racial slurs, the tablet, the skates...any parent would want to confront her. I will also suspect that she was watching the Victim walk over to her door, as she was watching and filming all the children up to the 911 call...she even said she was still watching them on that call.
    Yep it was a cold set up, but obviously that's not on the table it's just the probable cause for Defence. But as the 2nd Detective kept saying the Leap from only having 2 or 3 conversations with the victim to the Fatal Shooting does not add up......
    Justice for Ajike Owens and Family 🦋💙⚖️

    • @asamanthinketh2024
      @asamanthinketh2024 2 месяца назад +10

      Great analysis

    • @tymepilot8471
      @tymepilot8471 2 месяца назад +14

      Thank you for that spot on comment
      You’re absolutely correct 👍🏾

    • @tierrakiner8101
      @tierrakiner8101 2 месяца назад +11

      I just moved from the town that this incident took place. I will say that you are right on point about everything. I seen some of the comment, which state self defense. How can you look up stand your ground law after you fired the gun. This is a sad case, because I know the victim personally. They just need to find her guilty. The tapes didn't help her case at all. We all see that she wasn't telling the truth

    • @chillnriverview7153
      @chillnriverview7153 2 месяца назад +6

      this👆

    • @allieheppner8754
      @allieheppner8754 2 месяца назад +4

      Fabulous analysis. I popped in on the trial not knowing the background and by the end of the breakdown of all the previous 911 calls I had decided this was a hate crime. She targeted this family. Hearing all the other details.......the final two 911 calls.........that just sealed it in. I feel for the whole of that family impacted by such a dark hate. Listening to those kids learn they had lost their mom, that tears at the soul.

  • @michellegrant733
    @michellegrant733 2 месяца назад +51

    Interesting how Susan does not have any friends or family supporting her.

  • @teresathayn5170
    @teresathayn5170 2 месяца назад +44

    Susan is evil. She's a Karen!

    • @1Life2Live007
      @1Life2Live007 2 месяца назад +11

      Straight up! The definition of a Karen. Such a damn shame.

    • @theresaterry164
      @theresaterry164 2 месяца назад +10

      @@teresathayn5170 sadly not just a Karen but a killer Karen…so sad for those children.

  • @doreenalcaraz4257
    @doreenalcaraz4257 2 месяца назад +35

    All she had to do was wait for the cops..now all of a sudden she doesnt? She was angry not scared😮

  • @CliftonMoore-t7k
    @CliftonMoore-t7k 2 месяца назад +18

    The black female Pathologist is probably one of the best in this Country today. 😉Go Sister Go👍🏾✊🏾💯🙏🏾

    • @MsClemmons
      @MsClemmons Месяц назад

      The pathologist is a beautiful woman & she is very smar

  • @carolynanderson9827
    @carolynanderson9827 2 месяца назад +48

    This woman is insane. She was stalking the kids through her door and what looks likes her blinds. Sad. She has nothing else to do with her life

    • @mariowestcott6257
      @mariowestcott6257 2 месяца назад

      Clearly A "Typical Karen," And Thusly Should Be Found Guilty Of Manslaughter In The First Degree! #Terrible Situation Kids, Without Parent!!! 😢😢😢

    • @wendym.7648
      @wendym.7648 2 месяца назад +7

      👍💯

    • @Me-gc9kp
      @Me-gc9kp 2 месяца назад +1

      ...she not insane...kil

  • @beckyboop51
    @beckyboop51 2 месяца назад +57

    She aged and lost a lot of weight since this happened, it seems she wasn’t scared at all, she was angry. Thank God none of the children were harmed

  • @allstarfania
    @allstarfania 2 месяца назад +13

    When entitlement goes wrong. The noise that awaits her will be torture beyond her wildest dreams 🔊🔉🔈📣📢

  • @doreenalcaraz4257
    @doreenalcaraz4257 2 месяца назад +12

    She threw the rollerskates and said "Go fetch them!"

  • @Resa461
    @Resa461 2 месяца назад +12

    🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 for this Family

  • @nicolecampfield8940
    @nicolecampfield8940 2 месяца назад +24

    The Pathologist needs to understand she's on a murder Trial and she should try and slow her speech so she can be heard clearly

    • @sherryg.195
      @sherryg.195 2 месяца назад +5

      I thought the same thing I'm glad you said that I thought maybe it was my imagination

  • @dianelatimore9999
    @dianelatimore9999 2 месяца назад +8

    She's prejudice

  • @johnd4270
    @johnd4270 2 месяца назад +4

    She really thought she could say stand my ground it would be over

  • @nancyneal8128
    @nancyneal8128 2 месяца назад +33

    Just think how different things would have turned out if Susan would have shown kindness. AJ was a single mom so you know she would have welcomed help. Im sure the kids would have welcomed a "grandmother " type person living there.

    • @1Life2Live007
      @1Life2Live007 2 месяца назад +5

      Yes! So true. So horrible

    • @JoyceHyatt-e6t
      @JoyceHyatt-e6t 2 месяца назад +2

      And it was a woman. It might have been different had it been a man and he was threatening, I would still call 911.

    • @mzwop883
      @mzwop883 2 месяца назад

      A black mom No ma’am Aj wouldn’t have but cordial neighbors yes

    • @sheliadrennan653
      @sheliadrennan653 2 месяца назад +1

      So true the kids could have loved her and been a friend had color's and books and a Popsicle time just be nice

  • @lynngibson-lq9sm
    @lynngibson-lq9sm 2 месяца назад +6

    This woman set out to murder AJ. I believe she was waiting for the opportunity to come along.

  • @JuliaGray-k1s
    @JuliaGray-k1s 2 месяца назад +7

    I believe she purposely and intentionally committed this horrible act !! She doesn't like noise well she is not going to like her golden years spent in PRISON!!

  • @allieheppner8754
    @allieheppner8754 2 месяца назад +6

    It's a little above the hood..........from the only person other than those paid to say things in a positve manner about the defendant. It seals the impression of "Mary Lou, better than you." trying to control every single facet of her environment. I think the rustling of leaves and grass probably pissed her off. Lonely, old, bitter, racist, that is what she comes off as. She orchestrated this whole scene and then claimed victimhood. I'd be at her door if she did that to my kids. The corker is the fact that she knew the police were on there way. That she felt justified in lobbing shit at a kid, enough to call the cops on her behalf, that is a big tell. She spent nearly 5 minutes on the phone with 911, and in the span of about 7 minutes made two 911 calls. The statement of the pounding being 10 minutes at least.......proved false by her own recorded 911 calls. Instead of moving somewhere that is guaranteed to have no kids, she decided to make it her job to ensure that the kids were neither seen nor heard. If this hadn't happened then, it was going to happen and she was going to do something else to make it unfold in the same tragic way.

  • @Resa461
    @Resa461 2 месяца назад +9

    She knew that she was at the door and she just shot😮

  • @LivingLife-9292
    @LivingLife-9292 2 месяца назад +3

    Also assault on a child.

  • @doreenalcaraz4257
    @doreenalcaraz4257 2 месяца назад +7

    She was stalking the kids😮

  • @Notafemalecasual
    @Notafemalecasual Месяц назад +1

    The amount of trauma she has caused
    so many

  • @asamanthinketh2024
    @asamanthinketh2024 2 месяца назад +17

    Maybe its me, but this forensic pathologist is just a wee bit too chipper. Maybe she drank a lot of coffee before this , but she seems completely detached from the morbidness and tragedy of this situation.

    • @rossib9688
      @rossib9688 2 месяца назад +5

      I thought the same thing

    • @sarahnoble3773
      @sarahnoble3773 2 месяца назад +6

      My daughter actually smiles and laughs during uncomfortable situations...not that she means to. Might have been the same for that woman...

    • @asamanthinketh2024
      @asamanthinketh2024 2 месяца назад +1

      @@sarahnoble3773 I think I have a similar habit.

    • @walliegoolsby5389
      @walliegoolsby5389 2 месяца назад

      @@sarahnoble3773 My son had the same problem when he was younger.

    • @RealninteiesHiphop
      @RealninteiesHiphop 2 месяца назад

      She does it all the time , that shit is normal to her after all the education and work you get desensitized to it .

  • @Resa461
    @Resa461 2 месяца назад +10

    LIFE

  • @1Life2Live007
    @1Life2Live007 2 месяца назад +10

    But WHY take it that far!?! You’re inside your home door shut and locked. WHY even think to shoot a gun! Something not right with that. Why not just call the cops or something! You can’t just be shooting guns. Too old to be doing this nonsense. KAREN!
    These poor babies lost their mother over nothing. So horrible! 😢 RIP beautiful angel.
    Bet she’d be okay with whoever playing outside her door now. Ridiculous!
    She didn’t have the chains on the door but she had a chair propped up on it. BS KAREN!
    She’s scaring you while she’s outside your door. Come on now! NOBODY THINKS GET A GUN AND SHOOT FIRST! They think, call COPS! This lady is nothing but an old KAREN who thought she could do whatever she wanted. Other old ladies/men need to watch this and know that THIS IS NOT OKAY! YOU WILL GET LOCKED UP!
    This old lady calling CHILDREN racist names????????? Come on now. Yeah there’s definitely more to her actions this night.
    A mother lost her life and this evil lady is still sitting here justifying her actions. “I had my TV on 75”. Lady are you serious! Gosh.
    She’s trying real hard in the video and at trial to look like an innocent old lady. Sorry KAREN! Your days of acting and feeling above anybody else is OVER! SHAME on YOU!
    YOU took these innocent kids mother away from them over NOTHING! A single mother just trying to live and provide for her family. Gosh. So sad. 😢
    Omg. She’s lost a lot of weight.
    The mother has such a beautiful voice. So sorry momma for your loss. 😢 Be strong.

    • @tommyvette969
      @tommyvette969 2 месяца назад +2

      She did that multiple times listen to the opening.

    • @1Life2Live007
      @1Life2Live007 Месяц назад

      @@tommyvette969 horrible

  • @caitlinwith2eyes
    @caitlinwith2eyes 2 месяца назад +4

    Is the defense's argument that it's ok to shoot through a locked door because it's the hood?

  • @marissapahl1043
    @marissapahl1043 2 месяца назад +2

    I love how she tries to act like her phone, only unlocks with Face ID, only for her to unlock it with the keypad😂

  • @MsClemmons
    @MsClemmons Месяц назад +1

    Why she looking like that

  • @mzwop883
    @mzwop883 2 месяца назад +1

    Her attorney sounds like he’s just listing her health issues no self defense

  • @Me-gc9kp
    @Me-gc9kp 2 месяца назад +1

    ...okay, she stated those things but it does not mean that its TRUTH.

  • @Etc36284
    @Etc36284 2 месяца назад +4

    This from yesterday? When does 8/15 trial begin?

  • @katef8364
    @katef8364 2 месяца назад +1

    I need a lip reader to tell me what the defendant says to her attorney right before the state closes.

  • @PeaceIsAlwaysBeautiful92
    @PeaceIsAlwaysBeautiful92 2 месяца назад +4

    Susan was a neighborhood bully and, She baited that woman. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes! SMH. RIP to this young lady. I pray her children find peace and happiness

  • @MsClemmons
    @MsClemmons Месяц назад +1

    Wow, they are playing outside, not stealing they playing she evil

  • @KurtForbes
    @KurtForbes Месяц назад

    Not every older person need to live in an old folks home. If they’re ok around children and do the best they can they have every right to live wherever they want

  • @elainecurl-turner9631
    @elainecurl-turner9631 2 месяца назад +1

    So are we just NOT going to address the strange inappropriate way the foresic pathologist guy is a little to happy, smiley and chippe4 through this situation? Does he not understand that this is a murder trial and that the whole reason there is because someone lost their life and now a family is without their loved one? This isn't a game show or let's make a deal so why is he so non compassionate and so upbeat and smiley and chipper during A trial like this? It's just strange or it just might be me.

  • @christinesaaty215
    @christinesaaty215 Месяц назад

    I can’t get over the fact that this woman is younger than me.

  • @kimdavis3259
    @kimdavis3259 2 месяца назад +4

    Wow I love that she confirmed there was NO alcohol or drugs found in AJ system….so they (the defense team) couldn’t use that one! We all know that’s the first thing they try to say to help get their client off! 🤨

  • @antoinetterankin7425
    @antoinetterankin7425 4 дня назад

    Prison diet works wonders I see. Her books must be DRY as hell. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Daphne-t9b
    @Daphne-t9b 2 месяца назад +2

    Shes lieing

  • @Forgivemenot10
    @Forgivemenot10 2 месяца назад +1

    WTF 🤬 SHE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS ‼️‼️

  • @KurtForbes
    @KurtForbes Месяц назад

    It’s hard to believe this woman is only ten years old older than me. She looks like 85😮😮

  • @johnniebanaga3919
    @johnniebanaga3919 Месяц назад +1

    Don't nobody on this stand looks right the judge and the man that's talking to this lady looks very intimidating and racist

  • @Me-gc9kp
    @Me-gc9kp 2 месяца назад +1

    ...she lying

  • @GeraldDrake-p4r
    @GeraldDrake-p4r Месяц назад

    20 years , I hope

  • @doreenalcaraz4257
    @doreenalcaraz4257 2 месяца назад

    Did the kids testify??

  • @LoveFlowers1
    @LoveFlowers1 2 месяца назад

    The victims children never took the stand. Did they?

  • @tiaj7819
    @tiaj7819 2 месяца назад +4

    This might sound discriminatory but older people should really live in a senior citizen community so they don't have to deal with children since they are nuisance to them.

    • @torriahtalley1523
      @torriahtalley1523 2 месяца назад +1

      Most senior housing communities begin at age 62 unless they are 55 and disabled. So Susan would not have been eligible if she wasn't receiving a SSI check or declared disabled by a doctor per HUD's definition of disabled. I work for HUD, specifically with elderly and disabled!

  • @normamccruse3039
    @normamccruse3039 2 месяца назад +1

    We live in a world now people want satan unsread the lord no.lovr love for fellow man just mean and hateful people not all people but some well when you have not GOD IN YOUR LIFE THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU THERE IS NOTING GOOD IN OUR FLESH WR NEED THE LORD IN OUR LIFR AMEN

  • @chereewilson6706
    @chereewilson6706 2 месяца назад +1

    Female Micheal Dunn

  • @michaelbrantley.8628
    @michaelbrantley.8628 Месяц назад

    When messing ❌ with kids or bothering them goes wrong.

  • @Nurturing2
    @Nurturing2 2 месяца назад +1

    6:04:02 Is it a high crime area? The economic status of residents is as relevant as their ethnicity. OMG!!!

  • @eskylent7962
    @eskylent7962 18 дней назад

    What’s so sad is these kids are just outside having fun. They’re doing what every child has the right to do & it’s wholesome. Then they experience the most traumatic event just because this woman is crazy. 😢

  • @KathySpencer-mb7vi
    @KathySpencer-mb7vi 2 месяца назад +2

    I see both sides of this story but its so sad that someone lost their life due to lack of communication and respect for one another. 😢😢

  • @bernadettebigger3283
    @bernadettebigger3283 2 месяца назад +1

    She has lost lot weight she aged lot as well hope she gets all the help she needs i thought she had a sister shame shw didnt say something on ger behalf she is onvher own

    • @therewdy4038
      @therewdy4038 2 месяца назад +1

      Weight loss yes, looks older no!

    • @dnice387
      @dnice387 2 месяца назад

      That's because they feed you like a child in there, she'll gain it back in prison

  • @mikestevens7018
    @mikestevens7018 2 месяца назад +5

    Those kids instigated this whole thing by taunting a old woman.They need charged as well.This was all because of them
    .Bullys.

    • @twilightfades_7
      @twilightfades_7 2 месяца назад +14

      While she threw their roller skates? And called them slaves? Good one Mike

    • @theresaterry164
      @theresaterry164 2 месяца назад

      You are as mean as this miserable old woman is….kids were playing outside…. this old cranky bat started all of this.

    • @theresaterry164
      @theresaterry164 2 месяца назад +7

      @@twilightfades_7 This guy is crazy

    • @mikestevens7018
      @mikestevens7018 2 месяца назад

      @@twilightfades_7 She certainly did not call them slaves,they lied about that to play the race card

    • @mikestevens7018
      @mikestevens7018 2 месяца назад

      @@theresaterry164 what because I think she was terrified and shot to scare her.Why don't you tell the jurors that don't believe you're way they're also crazy.