Can You Ditch Your CO2?? // CYCPLUS Cube Tiny e-Pump
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- How good is this tiny electronic inflator? Can you ditch your CO2 cartridges or your mini pump?
Cycplus Tiny Cube Inflator
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I still like my old fashioned pump, but it's always fun to watch The Bike Sauce nerd out. Come for the gadgets, stay for the science. 👍🏻
Haha 😆
I think I carry too much on my mtb rides I carry a lezyne mini floor pump in my bag. This does look interesting, I’ve something similar size that can blow up my air mat for camping
Great test. Love the semi-scientific methodology. I'm impressed that it could actually fill a tire so fast, but the fact that it's only rechargeable via USB is kind of a dealbreaker. Minipumps are often useful for emergency situations, and there's now telling what the battery state will be after months of sitting in a bag. The 7.4V rating suggests that there are two Li-Ion cells in 2s1p configuration in there, and Li-Ion cells don't particularly like being stored at full capacity, or at too high temperatures. The battery being built-in means that once it's degraded, you have to get rid of the entire device, unless you really want to deal with sourcing the correct replacement and disassembling a device that's probably sealed shut with adhesives, and potentially having to spot weld the new cells. Ultimately this presents way too many downsides just to save on 2 minutes of pumping with a minipump, that one time in 3 years you'll need it. Maybe if it took replaceable batteries and had a crank...
Great video, thanks! Definitely going to look into this. You are doing a great job, your channel has grown a lot - well deserved!
I see this as a very neat option for Fatbike tire pressure adjustments on the trail. Thanks for the review!
Thank you for very detailed review and all the comparisons you did !!!
That’s very fascinating. They came up with something like this. I’m not sure if I would count on ditching the CO2 cartridges on a ride in favor of this little device because if it malfunctions or doesn’t work or maybe the sun or warm climates, maybe might drain the battery then you’re still stuck but it’s good to know that inventions like these exist. Thank you for sharing. 😮😊
It’s not new. Fumpa has been selling pumps like this for years.
It's a nice tech nerd toy. But nothing for real use as an emergency back-up pump, imo. It costs 4x a mini pump, is heavier and nobody can say that it won't break or the battery will fail. Which he will happen sooner or later 100%. The mechanics of such small E pumps are very fragile and the motors tend to get very hot. I wouldn't rely on it and see no reason to take something like that with me on longer tours.
@@raziel8321 On the other hand, manual pumps fail, too. The internal seals don't last forever. I learned this lesson the hard way. But I wouldn't bother with this device. Instead, I just buy a rebuild kit for my pump to get new seals every couple of years.
I carry battery compressor in the car and CO2 with me. CO2 will get me out of the forest and compressor will save in all other instances.
Thanks for the well paced and detailed review - really useful
This video was extremely well done. Amazing review. 👏
I just seen this product yesterday on a different channel, thanks for a more detailed experiment and review, not bad for an alternative to pump or CO2 cartridge. Not sure if i would buy one just yet, but it does inflate w/ ease.
Thanks for honest review.
I’ve got a fumpa mini electronic pump. I’ve carried it about since 2019 and it works. It’ll get three tyres upto around 4 bar. However I do also carry a tiny manual pump too but I’ve never had to use it.
This is a very cool product! BTW--I love how your Blackburn Mini pump is wrapped in electrical tape! My mini-pump and CO2 cartridges are also wrapped in tape and if nothing else it helps on the rattling.
Thank you. This is definitely worth consideration.
Should have tried with a road tubeless tire. I have 30mm on my bike and I only inflate to 60psi. I like the idea, but my mini frame pump has saved me a couple times already. Thanks for sharing!
Enjoyable demonstration of a new product. Reminds me of a front rechargable light I use. It works great but has very limited use when switching from strobe to bright light. Then needs recharging.
One thing I learned about full size pumps many years ago, you can continue to use them and they make a detergent for angry animals.
I use a Fumpa Pump and it has saved me a few times on the road. I love it.
Very interesting video. I'd thought about getting one of these - but after watching this I don't think it'd do the things I need. Thanks
I wanted to try this out so I bought one for myself. I can get two inflation's of my 650B x 35 tires on one charge. I wouldn't use it as my sole inflator on a long adventure, but for daily commuting it's the only pump I carry.
You add a 10k or 20k pack and while your riding you charge it again. It's win win
Thanks for sharing and doing the review. The moment I saw the first launch. I knew it won't be anything for me. I will stick with my Co2 cartridges and an additional mini pump, in case I got 2 punctures during a ride. I do use 110 psi in on my road bike. I don't ride MTb that much although I have one. But I use sealant in my mtb tires, so there won't be much pumping during rides.
Happens with my cyclpus pump as well. you need to move tyre around and it should be fine. essentially the psi reading it's getting isn't staying stable. Happens now again. Great pump. Going to buy this one too. Thanks for the video
You just saved me some money and that is priceless thanks a lot 👍
the pump i've been carrying for the past 8 years is the 10 dollar giyo gm-71(the updated version is giyo gm-821), better than the 2 shown in this video cause it has a rubber hose, no need to worry bending the valve when pumping air, plus you can put the pump on the ground and use your body weight to push down, and it has a psi gauge.
Ya same was 10$ secondary market works evertime 😎
We have the technology to send debris into space! Why not electrical pumps?!! Great content. Thanks.
What would be really amazing for the bikepacking crowd is if it can also pump up an air matt once you make it to camp.
Charging it via dynamo during the day, but then have it available for an emergency flat, or to set up camp faster, would be nirvana.
I suspect it's not going to cut it. I remember camping next to a guy who used a little pump plugged into his car cigarette lighter to pump up the air beds for his family each day. It took so long and was so irritating that I can still remember it. Our son was about ten, now he's in his forties. Thirty something years later and the sound of that little piston running at full tilt for at least fifteen minutes for each air bed is still with me. 😡
There’s plenty of micro electric pumps for backpacking air mattresses but I don’t know of any that deliver the high pressure needed for a bicycle tire.
Great clip - thank you for posting. I will stay with my CO2 cartridges for now.
NIce!!! Appreciate your video Luv 💙💙💙
Love my Fumpa pump and it works great
Good vid with provable testing, yeah I carry both, co2 n pump
Appreciate the review. Have you looked at the stompump? It’s a very simple foot pump that I always keep in my repair kit and on multi-day trips (5-7 days, middle of no where etc). It won’t get a road Tyre to 100 psi (limit is 60) but it’s perfect for wider tyres and it’ll get you on the road, your arms won’t be tired, it never needs charging and it will never get thrown away like an old phone.
I've had up to 4 flats in one road bike ride, even with Gator Hardshell, so I wouldn't rely solely on any device with limited cycles. Given that I carry a mini pump, additional devices are unnecessary. The Lezyne Road Drive with ABS Flex Hose ($55) is around 100g and has been efficient and reliable. What a great design.
Great video, thanks!
Great Video! Thks so much for the appreciated information. U think it'll work well on a motorcycle tyre to 30psi knowing it's a larger trye?
On the MTB side, it would be great as long as your tyre stays seated. If it doesn't I'd be surprised if it can dump the air quick enough compared to a C02 canister, which in my experience does have a chance.
Good point. This would def not be able to seat a bead
This is absolutely the main reason for having a CO2 for me. This doesn’t replace it at all. Perhaps the pump. But looks less reliable.
Good point but you could still put a tube in if you had to.
if I flat a tubeless setup, 100% I am installing a poly tube for the ride out.
Good review. 👍
Great review & comparison. However, the best thing about Co2 is they never run out of battery.
I use topeak Mountain TT G . It work like charm.
It has built in pressure gauge as well.
Thanks for reviewing! Important question for velomobile riders and other people who have a strong light battery on hand: Does it pump while being charged?
Really cool video thanks, if you were to connect it to a power bank, would it do any pressure without going dead?
One advantage it has is for tubeless tires where the tire lost some serious pressure before it automatically sealed. The advantage is in the fact that, by not using a CO2 cartridge, the inflated gas isn't super cold, an issue that results in coagulation of the sealant which vastly reduces its sealant power. And, because these tiny pumps are so small and light, one can carry two of them to further reduce the unreliability factor.
Of course its price ($89 each at the time of this post) would be an issue for most cyclists.
You have an important point with regard to sealant coagulation due to the CO2 Cartridge . . . I think that a small, light hand pump is the most practical and reliable way to go . . . after all, the only way we will "run out of air" is by running out of energy . . . in which case we would have a pretty rough ride home after all :-)
"It never really looks appropriate using a mini pump", haha. Truth.
Yes you can. I use a frame pump, no waste, not really an aero penalty, helped out quite a few folk at the side of the road who are struggling.
Nothing like a good hand pump.
Had a different version that was bigger, but the battery that supppose be able to inflate 30 bicycle tires but could never hold its charge. I even charged it before my rides to confirm. So I still carry a manual frame pump.
Thank you for another informative video! I bought the Cube after watching a video that gave it a good review. I haven't tried to inflate a completely deflated road tire yet, but judging from your experiment, it may not be a good replacement for CO2 or a quality mini pump. I will continue to carry my Topeak Roadie IT Mini with me.
In the instructions it does tell you to start the unit first then connect if the tyre already has any pressure, I was able to get 700c/28mm up to 90psi but doubt i could do it twice.
What pressure guage were you using? Great vid!
More people are running tubeless road tyres so 60 psi would be fine to get you home. So you may get two inflations on a 2C tubeless set up. I think I like it, compact, reusable and easy to use.
Thanks
Not mentioned is that most compressors are rated to have a service life often stated in fillings, meaning the number of times they will fill a tank, or in this case- a tire. When I looked is appears to be around 200 fillings. My Emglo compressor is rated at 500 fillings. So I would say not bad for a tiny compressor.
Surprised more brands haven’t attempted this. I would much rather one of these than c02 cartridges and a nozzle
The bigger and much heavier model , the A8 , is perfect for e bikes where carrying extra weight is not much of an issue .
No, I can't ever see myself solely rely on anything electronic tbh.
🧢. Phone, Tablet, PC, internet, lights, Automobiles, AC, Heat, Plumbing, Carpentry,.Etc.,
@@CTSaints89sure!.non of those are critical.meaning, if they stop working sure a little discomfort but not life or death..go bike 30 miles on top of a mountain then your AXS stuff stops working??😢😢
@@CTSaints89 "solely". If my electric saw stopped working, then i can use my manual saw.
If i get a flat 30 miles away from home and my electronic pump somehow has a bad battery/circuit component, i'm screwed. Bringing both manual pump and electronic pump defeats the purpose of having an electronic one.
Two pumps and you’re done 😂
Ya i got a great mini pump med size .... its perfect paid 10$ secondary market
Interesting how this product matures! Maybe, sit out and wait for it's next iteration. Old fashioned pump is still 👑
You shouldn't press the cube down while pumping. And the usb port is the air intake
Nice but just another thing to keep charged. Curious how long does it hold a charge between uses. I don't flat very often and I can imagine this being dead when I really need it.
Thanks for showing this. I know now the technology isn't there yet...
Thanks, good video. I've seen this device mentioned on other channels, but you are the first I've seen test it and mention price and source. It certainly seems more practical than hand pumps. Out of curiosity I weighed a 10000 mAh battery pack at 239 g -- that should be good for a lot of recharges and smaller lighter packs are available. So this could even be a practical solution for bikepacking.
Thank you for the video. I'll stick with my mini Blackburn. Sure it takes me 110 strokes, but it's highly unlikely I'll use it anyways vs space/weight savings.
If you are jumping on this concept on Oct.20,2023 be prepared for a long wait. I have been waiting for mine for almost a month now and actually wondering if it will actually arrive. Fortunately it is not too expensive and I don’t really need it… wait…I mean, of course I NEED it!
Even on a road tire, 60lbs will at least get you home after a flat . . the little CYPLUS Cube is neat . . . after some more R&D it might be improved over time . . . having said that, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to have to inflate TWICE on a ride :-) Thanks for the info!
The pump's rating was for 25mm tires, but you were pumping up a 28mm tire, which has about 25% more volume. The energy to pump up the tire is the volume times the pressure, so 25% more to pump up 28mm tire to same pressure. I run my tubeless 25mm tires at 70-75psi, but could run at 60psi to limp home from a ride.
Tubeless ? what? I Ride everyday like a 1991 huffy 26* inch tell me they make a tubeless tire for my bike
Maybe good for an ebike-if you can plug into your battery via USB? I carried a small Blackburn pump for years in addition to C02. BTW, check your pump periodically as eventually the diaphragm may fail from age (learned that the hard way).
I'd like to see a side by side comparison with the Fumpa pumps (all 3 sizes)
Nice shirts!!😁
Thanks! and I subscribed you.
Why would you need a heavy 25g cartridge to inflate a 25mm tire? I use 12g unthreaded carts. They will do a 25mm tire to 90 psi, and a 23mm tire to 100 psi.
Please do the review on the AS2 Pro.
I'm just carrying a mini pump for my training rides and co2 and my mini pump for a race. This pump is still slow and if I'm unlucky and get to flats I'm stuck. So it doesn't really solve any problems other than being too lazy to pump up your tires. And if you don't use it for a long time and forget to keep it changed up 😅
How might your review change for tubeless ? I run 30mm on my road bike - to 65lbs pressure. From your review it seems that I might expect a single inflate from flat ?
Can you try this again with the road tyre I think you can do better. Since you stopped at 66psi and attempted to take from 66psi upwards, the back pressure in the tyre was probably stopping the cube from inflating. If you want to pump from a start of 66psi to 80psi you could try turning on the pump on first, get it buzzing away and then fit the pump to the tyre. I think you'll have more luck. Also when people have flats and need to use the cube in emergency they pump from 0psi, so understandably, the pump will struggle to inflate from a starting pressure of 66psi because it's not designed to do that. Go again!! I'm curious to see if you can get 2x 80psi road tyre inflations out of a charge if done correctly.
This could replace the floor pump I keep in my van that I mostly use to set my pre-ride air pressure and then toss it into a pack for longer rides. 🤔🤔
I really like the idea, but how often would you have to recharge it to trust it on a ride? Before every ride? Once/week? Seems like a lot of hassle for something that you only actually use a few times/year and then after a couple years the battery would wear out from all the recharge cycles despite only using it on a tire a few times.
Super interesting as someone told me about a portable compressor on a weekend ride. I run 23s at 120psi... I find CO2 cartridges never do me fully back up to 120. Maybe a cart plus a fill from this would do the trick? Worth a try... for science. ;)
I use a giant DeWalt air compressor,it plugs in and is ready to use right away.
This thing looks amazing.. only problem I see is if you run tubeless road you’re still gonna want CO2 incase you need to ensure you can re-seat the tire beside the road 😏
I only run my road tires at 50-55psi
to save power on cyclaplus on epic ride use the regular pump first to 30psi then use the cyclapus to its max desired psi
How long will it last? How many recharges before the battery becomes useless, can the battery be replaced?
Road and mountain bikes really need their own pumps, electric or otherwise.
Will it reseat the bead when I've had my tyre off? Of course not. Moving on...
how many tires can be used when the battery is full
Well reviewed as per usual question is does it have the gutts to seat the mtb tyre ? thanks in advance .
No, the volumetric flow rate is too slow to seat a bead
Thanks for the tests. I will keep that 50 bucks for the other CO2 bullets.
Aloha, I have one and used it today on my rode bike. The one you have may need to be returned, as mine pumps my 700x25C tire to about 80psi in under 90 seconds, Maybe try with the cover on. But yes it's very reliable, and lighter and easier than any other method. I highly suggest the purchase of one of these.
+1
I have had this for few months and use as my daily commuter pump on my road bike with 700x28 tires, have flatted twice in one ride and this brought me up to 75psi twice on one charge and still had some battery left.
Still take a mini pump when out for longer rides.
But it's nice to not be sitting on the side of a road sweating bullets in the heat or freezing in the cold and wet with a mini pump when you don't have to.
Yes CO2 works but I find the tires deflate quickly as the CO2 leaks out of the tires easier than regular air, and I am not a fan of squishy rides
It is certainly not lighter than any other option. But it is more convenient than a pump
You read the instructions , for higher pressures you should start the pump 1st then connect it to the tire valve.
Powerful enough to seat tubeless gravel tire?
This would be great to get you back on the road to get you home
I like your review... can you do a review on the Fumpa?
Don’t have one!
If this thing was built around a single replaceable 21700, it would truly be a game changer.
Looks interesting and I like that it doesn't waste a metal cylinder each use. I do agree with Evolve Outdoors though. With group sets going electric, seems we already have too much dependency on electronics in my one escape from electronics. We'll see if these hold up over time I guess.
You don't waste anything. That cartridge can be recycled.
Waste? You're not supposed to throw it in the trash. Bruh
@RealSweetKid Let's take that somewhere... this thing pulls 5.5A from a 2S lithium (polymer?) battery. That means fully charged it's at 8.4V, which means it's power consumption is less than 50W. In theory, you could make that kind of power with a conventional bike alternator. Pedaling to pump your tires... why not?
@@therealgoody Batteries can be ~100% recycled. E.g., over 99% of car batteries are recycled. Only human labor exploitation is for mining cobalt in the Congo, and many Li-ion chemistries use no cobalt and most cobalt actually comes as a biproduct of nickel refining.
I have a Fanttik X9 ACE that I carry with me on every ride. I can inflate 10 x 700x32 TR tires from 0 to 45 PSI on a single charge.
Will the battery be charged when you need it after a year of sitting, doubt it.
Noticed the Maverick t shirt. Does that brand still exist? I used to ride occasionally with Paul Turner and his OG Rock Shox crew in Boulder back in the 90s when they were conceiving the original Maverick bike. I was able to demo the original frame when there were less than fifty. Amazing MTB for the time. Always wondered where they went.
It’s a local bike shop and they’ve got some updated frame sets
Do not think I would buy, kind of Pricey and not sure it would pump up my Ebike tires 2.4 inch to 60 PSI. I carry a mini emergency pump, have a 12v noisy compressor pump that pumps to 120psi that I use regularly from my car. Also buy very good Schwalbe tires, so I rarely get flats. Thank you for reviewing this. Excellent review!
Wondering why you run a 2.4" at 60psi. Seems extremely high. The highest I've seen rear hub motor ebikes recommended pressure is around 40-45 psi and that's on 2.0" tires.
I'd love to see this pitted against the NanoFumpa to establish which is better/faster.
Ive said this before on other reviews, but this is is an interesting option for people with reduced hand capability. Older people, those with degenerative or neurological issues, amputees, who knows.
If you can use a standard pump and this product doesnt seem to be "for you", it might not be.
How long will it hold a charge in your pack without using it ?
Considering how rarely you use stuff in your seat bag. It’s very likely that by the time you need this the battery will be dead.
So you charge it on January 1st. But you don't get your first flat till June 1st. How much battery power do you lose after it sits for 6 months?
No chance I’d use that over co2 for road use. Two canisters are equal to about 3 inflations at 80psi on a 700ccx25mm tyre. The empty canister is recyclable too.
For gravel riding I take a mini-pump that requires a couple of minutes to inflate to around 30psi.
Can inflate the tire with a powerbank charging it at same time?