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you should make a vid on the unkillable team that was posted on reddit with roshcard, 3 painkeepers and armiger 4 minute runs. You might be able to make something work with helicath.
Great video! Just a few things that happened to me that I had to fix: -The speed for Kurzad didn't work for me, 194 was too fast and he dies after 4 or 5 turns because he takes a turn right after Demy places block damage (and before the twins takes he's turn). I had to change him to 186 speed, with no masteries except the first one for crit % and the 2 for acc. -I'm only using a Occult Brawler since I don't have Geo, and the boss still dies in 10 minutes. -To make it closer to a 100% team, I run another Kurzad instead of the Geo.
i'm wondering if you could sneak in the increase accuracy buff from kurzad once and use the demythas to keep it up the rest of the fight, so you don't have to build so much accuracy on everybody
Thanks DWJ your team works a treat. ( Well it does now ) I built it about a month ago and could not get it to work. I checked everything. ( Well not quite ) Did you know that this team does not work if one of the Demythas isn't booked. I knew but still forgot. Now it works thanks again great job.
I was able to use Demytha X2, Kurzad, Geomancer and Narma the Returned. Narma gives an extra 80 accuracy in dungeons as the lead. Her A1 also has a 60% chance of increasing the duration of 3 random debuffs. So has the potential to increase HP Burn, Decrease speed, and any Poisons she has. I have Narma in a poison set just to help land a few extra poisons. Demytha 281 speed Demytha 249 speed Narma 179 speed, 353 Accuracy (I need higher accuracy here to increase the debuffs with her A1 & land more poisons & poison sensitivity) Geomancer 182 speed, 464 Accuracy (probably could use more accuracy here, but so far it is working) Kurzad 184 Speed, 134% crit rate and 662 Accuracy (you want 130% crit on Kurzad just in case, the twinsplace a decrease crit rate by 30%) You could also try Kurzad's accuracy lower than this with an increase accuracy buff for a DPS or something like that. But for some reason, this still doesn't work 100% of the time, but seems to have around a 75% success rate. Maybe I need Kurzad with more accuracy? I have considered using Archbishop Pinthroy in a poison set, for his Accuracy lead and his Increase accuracy buff. Also, it seems like randomly the twins cleanse off all the debuffs, losing the decrease speed in the middle of the run, and then everything goes to pot. Not sure why this happens. Anyone know?
Hello. Not sure if you already answered your question within these past two months, but the reason for iron twins cleansing debuffs is because of one of his passive skills that cleanses all debuffs when his current health reaches a certain percentage of his total health (85%, 70%, 55%, and 40%). Hope that helps!
I'm running both my bateater Maneater, and a 3rd copy at the same speed as my slow Maneater, geo ofc and painkiller it does take about 15secs of manual to line up those unk buffs but once u do that it's 100% success rate and around 2-3 min runs
I think what you're missing from your speed tuned comps that use block damage is a doom priest. With the comp that I use, whenever my decreased speed does not land, then I have both Doom priest and Scyl the Drakes to heal my team back up so they can survive. Just a thought but thanks for the video
if they could survive the hit without block dmg as you see there are like 8 stacks of continuous heals on them :D that will heal them up to full. sadly these unkillable teams are usually too squishy to survive if it comes to that
I take it both Demytha’s are booked? Also, can’t use Helicath for one slot as 4T, right? For, OB are there other good options for late game account? I didn’t catch what his fit was but would rather not build a DPS just for this content unless there is a reason why he is best for all affinities. Truly appreciate your content!
his shtick is that he places poisons on any affinity from his passive, he just needs to take a turn, as well as his A1, but that one can weak hit. there are other options that I'm actually interested in, like Toragi (50% of poisoning when he gets hit) and Urost who has a similar passive but with a 75% chance to poison when getting hit. Urost also brings in a decrease speed on his A2 which might be clutch as well, but I'm afraid I'm too low on silver to play around with their builds :D
@@ScgMatke Thanks for the response. That is helpful on OB. I have both OB and Toragi unbuilt so could go either way. I'm about 10 frags from Urost but hard done for the month. Realistically, I don't need any of those for other content and none built, but Toragi seems to have more potential than OB. Can't decide I want to build this team or a Helicath team. Building 2 Demytha's a high acc Geo (would use dupe), DPS and Kurzad a lot of investment for what don't look like great rewards.
Is there a problem with consistency with the dwarf and champfort would be better? Would elenaril(without poison explosion) be a good substitute for Geo?
After seeing your double Demytha for Clan Boss I've used your calculator to get everything going for NM and UNM Clan Boss!! Great help! Now, can I double use the two Demytha's on Clan Boss and Iron Twins? That would be great. Thanks!
Would be great if the CB calculator was updated for the twins. Working on a variant of the block damage comp with Tower, Helicath, Geo, Champfort (dec spd), and Maulie (passive TM boost instead of seeker). SInce Maulie's tm boost is greater than Seeker's, trying to get the speeds right. Comp is only ~50% successful now...
Hey I have only one Demytha but also a helicath. I tried to build teams for an unkillable twins and CB team but so far I have not found any solution to this. Are those two champs enough to build an uk team? Or do I need someone like Seeker or so?
i use the dymytha hellcath but i replaced kurzad with scyl and use mythrala instead of occult brawler scy has dec spd on a1 your block damage whole time so block out her other 2 skills and mythralla has shield that helps if u miss a block damage on a turn and anyone dies you can take off auto and use scyl revive if needed
2 ME (251 stars with A3 240 stars with a2) 2 PK (223 and 210 both use A3 then A2) dps (208-209) that doesn't give buffs, extra turn, increase speed or increase turn meter...
Before anyone rushes into spending their resources and building this team, dont you think it would be fair to say to your viewers that the best possible winrate for this team is around 85%. This is the actual number that "astronomically low chance" rounds up to for the whole fight - at least 5 times per run at least 3% even with infinite accuracy on Kurzad. And that is assuming you never proc the damage threshold with hits which in reality happens and makes the true winrate even lower. By our current knowledge unkillable teams are not an option for building a reliable team for this boss.
I’ve heard from tyrauku that he targets whoever has the most crit rate so give someone else 101% crit rate to avoid kurzad getting the decrease crit rate
Seriously dude? ...I thought for sure you were going to do a double helecath for iron twins ...I have every unkillable/block damage champions out there (no tower but X2 helecath ) and I cannot figure out their speeds ...help
A tad off-topic, but todays patch broke ALL unkillable teams in Two Towers. Seem Plarium only want super-whales who will throw thousands of dollars at them for a select few S tier champions in order to do any end-game content. This really has me re-thinking my committment to this game as the fun factor gets lower and lower with each patch and update.
Yep, weak hits are a thing. If you ran Aox with so the boss's atks ran the turns up on the debuff once applied that might work. But you're playing rng at the start every time. My Tomb Lord is set to solo dragon 25 right now and have no kurzad, so I might try this myself.
@@goodluck1800 Regen and immortal sets. (Lifesteal an option but more touch and go in comparison) 226 spd (over 210 or 215 is target I believe) 48k hp 2400 def Res 250 (still land at times but not much) Acc 240 I open each stage with a3 and have turned off the rest of the time. Run giant slayer if you want to speed it up some more. Even with a3 on whole time my runs are still under 3 minutes running food. If you run a seer team these runs would prolly be 40-50 seconds would be my guess. I haven't tested this yet.
Alien to 95% of playerbase, im not even watching this. nice experiment but seriously, unkillable teams are already a stretch for most players (believe it or not, most players are quite casual)
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Can you use the small version of decrease speed (15%) instead?
you should make a vid on the unkillable team that was posted on reddit with roshcard, 3 painkeepers and armiger 4 minute runs. You might be able to make something work with helicath.
How about a double hellicath? Pulled dupe about a week after his fusion.
With the slowest Demytha on 248 speed it didn't worked for me. I've needed to put her at 250 speed to get this comp working
@@Sh1vazzZ hi,and is it a 100per cent win comp? Cheers
Great video! Just a few things that happened to me that I had to fix:
-The speed for Kurzad didn't work for me, 194 was too fast and he dies after 4 or 5 turns because he takes a turn right after Demy places block damage (and before the twins takes he's turn). I had to change him to 186 speed, with no masteries except the first one for crit % and the 2 for acc.
-I'm only using a Occult Brawler since I don't have Geo, and the boss still dies in 10 minutes.
-To make it closer to a 100% team, I run another Kurzad instead of the Geo.
Nice Team ... good Job deadwood :)
i'm wondering if you could sneak in the increase accuracy buff from kurzad once and use the demythas to keep it up the rest of the fight, so you don't have to build so much accuracy on everybody
Thanks DWJ your team works a treat. ( Well it does now ) I built it about a month ago and could not get it to work. I checked everything. ( Well not quite ) Did you know that this team does not work if one of the Demythas isn't booked. I knew but still forgot. Now it works thanks again great job.
I was able to use Demytha X2, Kurzad, Geomancer and Narma the Returned.
Narma gives an extra 80 accuracy in dungeons as the lead. Her A1 also has a 60% chance of increasing the duration of 3 random debuffs. So has the potential to increase HP Burn, Decrease speed, and any Poisons she has. I have Narma in a poison set just to help land a few extra poisons.
Demytha 281 speed
Demytha 249 speed
Narma 179 speed, 353 Accuracy (I need higher accuracy here to increase the debuffs with her A1 & land more poisons & poison sensitivity)
Geomancer 182 speed, 464 Accuracy (probably could use more accuracy here, but so far it is working)
Kurzad 184 Speed, 134% crit rate and 662 Accuracy
(you want 130% crit on Kurzad just in case, the twinsplace a decrease crit rate by 30%) You could also try Kurzad's accuracy lower than this with an increase accuracy buff for a DPS or something like that.
But for some reason, this still doesn't work 100% of the time, but seems to have around a 75% success rate. Maybe I need Kurzad with more accuracy? I have considered using Archbishop Pinthroy in a poison set, for his Accuracy lead and his Increase accuracy buff.
Also, it seems like randomly the twins cleanse off all the debuffs, losing the decrease speed in the middle of the run, and then everything goes to pot. Not sure why this happens. Anyone know?
Hello. Not sure if you already answered your question within these past two months, but the reason for iron twins cleansing debuffs is because of one of his passive skills that cleanses all debuffs when his current health reaches a certain percentage of his total health (85%, 70%, 55%, and 40%). Hope that helps!
and when u see the reward that gives you stage 15 then all the efforts of building a team for this are worthless!!! Plarium are sick !
Now after 1 year has passed. Are there teams without decrease spd but with higher spd values?
and what would be the SPD values for the lower floors?
Thank you! Thank you! Now I have use for my two extra Demythas!
I'm running both my bateater Maneater, and a 3rd copy at the same speed as my slow Maneater, geo ofc and painkiller it does take about 15secs of manual to line up those unk buffs but once u do that it's 100% success rate and around 2-3 min runs
Love the block damage teams. Keep them coming! lol
I never pulled even one demytha... the only one I got I fused :P
I think what you're missing from your speed tuned comps that use block damage is a doom priest. With the comp that I use, whenever my decreased speed does not land, then I have both Doom priest and Scyl the Drakes to heal my team back up so they can survive. Just a thought but thanks for the video
if they could survive the hit without block dmg as you see there are like 8 stacks of continuous heals on them :D that will heal them up to full. sadly these unkillable teams are usually too squishy to survive if it comes to that
Nice video, still waiting one with no decrease speed or warcaster. Didnt see anyone with helli+demy+roschard+pk and i am sure it will work
I take it both Demytha’s are booked? Also, can’t use Helicath for one slot as 4T, right? For, OB are there other good options for late game account? I didn’t catch what his fit was but would rather not build a DPS just for this content unless there is a reason why he is best for all affinities. Truly appreciate your content!
his shtick is that he places poisons on any affinity from his passive, he just needs to take a turn, as well as his A1, but that one can weak hit. there are other options that I'm actually interested in, like Toragi (50% of poisoning when he gets hit) and Urost who has a similar passive but with a 75% chance to poison when getting hit. Urost also brings in a decrease speed on his A2 which might be clutch as well, but I'm afraid I'm too low on silver to play around with their builds :D
@@ScgMatke Thanks for the response. That is helpful on OB. I have both OB and Toragi unbuilt so could go either way. I'm about 10 frags from Urost but hard done for the month. Realistically, I don't need any of those for other content and none built, but Toragi seems to have more potential than OB. Can't decide I want to build this team or a Helicath team. Building 2 Demytha's a high acc Geo (would use dupe), DPS and Kurzad a lot of investment for what don't look like great rewards.
Is there a problem with consistency with the dwarf and champfort would be better? Would elenaril(without poison explosion) be a good substitute for Geo?
My team is still 100 per cent full auto across all affinities now. 3-4 mins lvl 15. 3x Block Damage champs
Mind posting team and speeds?
@@wesleywalker9763 +1
Who do you use?
@@vjs2530 Helicathx2, Tower, Mithrala, Geo
Do the speed of the other 3 Champions (Excluding the both Demythas) matter? Or should they just be as fast as possible?
They matter. if they are to fast, they outrun the block damage
After seeing your double Demytha for Clan Boss I've used your calculator to get everything going for NM and UNM Clan Boss!! Great help! Now, can I double use the two Demytha's on Clan Boss and Iron Twins? That would be great. Thanks!
Is it possible ?
I have a few of her. Just hate to use the books for a second one.
Hello, are you planning to make a calculator for this content?
Would be great if the CB calculator was updated for the twins. Working on a variant of the block damage comp with Tower, Helicath, Geo, Champfort (dec spd), and Maulie (passive TM boost instead of seeker). SInce Maulie's tm boost is greater than Seeker's, trying to get the speeds right. Comp is only ~50% successful now...
Hey I have only one Demytha but also a helicath. I tried to build teams for an unkillable twins and CB team but so far I have not found any solution to this. Are those two champs enough to build an uk team? Or do I need someone like Seeker or so?
would a double warcaster be possible? my demytha and my hellicath are already built for another content 😬
Idk why but im failing with this build... Could you share the Accuracy and Speed values of the other champs too pls?
I knoenthisnis an older video, but would theo work instead of ocunt brawler?
Am I able to sub in Roshcard instead of one of the Demythas? Thanks!
i use the dymytha hellcath but i replaced kurzad with scyl and use mythrala instead of occult brawler scy has dec spd on a1 your block damage whole time so block out her other 2 skills and mythralla has shield that helps if u miss a block damage on a turn and anyone dies you can take off auto and use scyl revive if needed
speed tune please
Does kurzad need acc? It looks like if he crits the a1, the decrease speed is placed?
yup. needs acc
This speed tune should work for stages 13-15, correct? Speeds, check, books, check.
Thank you sir, building now
did it work? Mine doesn't. Even Iaang builder says it should work too. It just doesn't though. ugh
2 ME (251 stars with A3 240 stars with a2)
2 PK (223 and 210 both use A3 then A2)
dps (208-209) that doesn't give buffs, extra turn, increase speed or increase turn meter...
Before anyone rushes into spending their resources and building this team, dont you think it would be fair to say to your viewers that the best possible winrate for this team is around 85%. This is the actual number that "astronomically low chance" rounds up to for the whole fight - at least 5 times per run at least 3% even with infinite accuracy on Kurzad. And that is assuming you never proc the damage threshold with hits which in reality happens and makes the true winrate even lower. By our current knowledge unkillable teams are not an option for building a reliable team for this boss.
I would run this with my Lord Champford instead of occult brawler so no problem
What if you don't have Kurzad? I tried Stagknight on the other comp you did with Helicath and it didn't work
I’ve heard from tyrauku that he targets whoever has the most crit rate so give someone else 101% crit rate to avoid kurzad getting the decrease crit rate
You don't want anyone other than OB and geo doing damage so why not overstack his crit rate anyways?
Will 2 x sir Nic works better on this comp? How to build that?
Are these speeds good for lvl 13, 14?
Hell hades literally today said that block damage does not affect geomancers reflect damage???
couldn;t get it to work for some reason. i swapped out OB for Hellcat, got it to work.
Doesn’t work for me IT wont put dec. Speed whats the story ?
i saw a cc used kurzad and another champion with higher cr rate that boss would target that champion test it
Nice
Can u pls confirm it still works mine fail every time ty
If I make the fastest Demit 276, and the speed penalty is 15%, will it work? I think not, but still I hope for a miracle.
Can the iron twins resist the decrease speed by Kurzad?
yes
I think this speed tune only work for stage 15 ... i tried and failed on stage 13 !
Hi, i´m have problems in level 12-14.... you can help us?
If Kuzad doesn't land his decrease speed, you're going to have a bad time 😆
Probally means force quit
Hi,can we see a demytha + helicath? Cheers
...that was his video yesterday.
And after hearing the champs, I'm done since I have none of those.
What about a double Geo?
🙏😎🏆
Seriously dude? ...I thought for sure you were going to do a double helecath for iron twins ...I have every unkillable/block damage champions out there (no tower but X2 helecath ) and I cannot figure out their speeds ...help
A tad off-topic, but todays patch broke ALL unkillable teams in Two Towers. Seem Plarium only want super-whales who will throw thousands of dollars at them for a select few S tier champions in order to do any end-game content. This really has me re-thinking my committment to this game as the fun factor gets lower and lower with each patch and update.
this is not an unkillable team video
@@benoitdesrosiers8498 What part of "off-topic" did you have trouble understanding?!??
does this still work or have they nerfed this comp?
unkillable is nerfed
Its even worth it to have such of a team for basically zero rewards? Drop rate is extremely low and energy use as well.
What's the cap on speed for the fast dem
He said it in the video
285
how geo is good ,
he will not take dmg :)
I thought unkillable is being nerfed?
thiis is block dmg
Damn... No Demy... Wish Heli/ME/Tower could do it... 😭
It's more fun just to build a tank team
Would Tomb Lord be a good replacement for Kurzad?
It would work but kurzad keeps it affinity friendly
Yep, weak hits are a thing. If you ran Aox with so the boss's atks ran the turns up on the debuff once applied that might work. But you're playing rng at the start every time. My Tomb Lord is set to solo dragon 25 right now and have no kurzad, so I might try this myself.
@@jakes70cougar can you give me tomblord solo stat for d25
@@goodluck1800
Regen and immortal sets. (Lifesteal an option but more touch and go in comparison)
226 spd (over 210 or 215 is target I believe)
48k hp
2400 def
Res 250 (still land at times but not much)
Acc 240
I open each stage with a3 and have turned off the rest of the time. Run giant slayer if you want to speed it up some more. Even with a3 on whole time my runs are still under 3 minutes running food. If you run a seer team these runs would prolly be 40-50 seconds would be my guess. I haven't tested this yet.
@@jakes70cougar I have more statts but he can't still do the second wave
Helicath + Maneater plz
not really worth building since unkillable is gonna get a nerf for the boss and it's already been done
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Maneater is going to be pointless. Boss will be ignoring unkillable buff here soon if not already.
Alien to 95% of playerbase, im not even watching this.
nice experiment but seriously, unkillable teams are already a stretch for most players (believe it or not, most players are quite casual)