These sound nice for special purposes, but the price tag is the same as with finished crashes. Ridicilous. Most of the price of a cymbal comes from the craft and manufacturing process, theres no way these should cost this much. Just Zildjian hype prices i guess.
The marketing budget of Zildjian is not inconsiderable (inc all the artists they support worldwide). The manufacturing cost of each cymbal regardless of finish is probably not that much and controlled mostly by the price of metal and energy. I do think these would be a personal choice for sound and aesthetics and not something I would choose.
Hey there! Despite their name, the Raw Crashes actually take longer to make and pass through more hands in the process than other cymbals. Because these are not lathed, any flaws that exist in the rolled casting are going to be part of the finished cymbal. For this reason, only the most ideal rolled castings are hand-selected to become Raw Crashes. Their edges are also hand trimmed to eliminate any gaps that naturally occur during the rolling process. All this to say, the sound may be "Raw" but the process is still very much labor intensive. 😊
Sooooo basically $300 to return to the crash sound of that $75 starter drum kit you bought from a yard sale/pawn shop when you first started out. Lol 😂
Hey there! The FX Raw Crashes are not trimmed into perfect circles. The variations in profile, shape, size, and edge consistency are what create the wildly individual sounds from one crash to the next. You can learn more here: zildjian.com/fx-raw-crashes-1.html
You guys should market these as dry rides of some sort. They seem to fit that sonic profile a little more than a crash…which is something you want to be reliable, space filling and decay-oriented.
So basically what he is saying is they didn’t do anything to the sheet of metal that they normally do to a normal cymbal and charging same price for basically barely any work done into making this sheet of metal. They should’ve made these half the price and they would be a cool little effect cymbal or dry ride but no way I’m paying the same price as a normal finished cymbal for these.
Hey, customer is king but A: you're actually selling unfinished stuff at a high end price, so viva financial margin B: yes every cymbal is unique, but it's quite already the case. Conclusion : of course the cymbals are good, you know how to make them. Please sell them at an affordable price already
What a brilliant idea. Lets take a bunch of our reject crap, that's to out of shape to make round or lathe, call them custom and charge a fortune for them. Oh yeah and say each has a unique sound and is 'OFFICALLY' part of our range.
Which might make sense if they didn't recycle all the rejects. Although, I can imagine this product was envisaged by someone trying a "reject" and making thr case they should sell such a product.
“Too out of shape” this is impossible, every cymbal can be trimmed and shaped with their press. This was inspired by drummers who toured their factory, and as they listened to the raw unlathed blanks, they realized that it could be a cool addition to the catalog.
I fu#$ing hate this, and I’m a Zildjian nut!!!! I love Zildjian, but why would anybody buy trash can lids????? They sound like cracked expensive cymbals,,,, no way I’m buying this,,,,, come on Zildjian,,,, keep your workers making amazing cymbals like Ks and K customs!!!!
“Hmmm….I know what we can do, guys! Our customers are idiots so they won’t mind paying almost 400 dollars for a f$@& cymbal blank with a logo on it! We can do 1/3 of the work and put a huge markup on it!” 😈🙏
I NEED one of these immediately, absolutely Love the sound and look of these cymbals. Zildjian this was a brilliant idea for the EFX line. I absolutely love them for dance music
A cynical rip-off in my opinion - a cymbal that has only been through half the manufacturing process should have a price that reflects this. I have radiators indoors that sound nicer than these! Shame on you, Zildjian.
I would actually guess these have more manufacturing process rather than their general lathe/molds. These would have a very fine line in term of shape between sounding cool and being garbage. I highly doubt these are random uniquely shaped
Guy in the video: "this is our most raw and unfinished cymbal, no two sound the same." Checks price: riiiiiiigggghhhtttttt....so 300 for a random unfinished cymbal
@@griggindrums9101 they sound awesome, don’t get me wrong, but cymbals should be worth their worksmanship, labor, and machinery costs An affordable, awesome sounding cymbal is something we all need
Damn man, the pandemic really fucked up the QC of cymbal manufacturers, huh? This is the pinnacle of "it's a feature, not a bug." They look like they came out of a house fire.
Hey Joe, great question! Because they are not exchangeable online, we recommend visiting your local retailer to try them out in person and find the one that best speaks to you 😊
God they sound so bad. Zildjian sucks at making raw/dry cymbals. Leave that to Meinl and Istanbul. Focus on making your refined flashy rock cymbals. This is kind of embarrassing tbh.
Paul might have been fired for admitting in the video for these from last year that these are "basically an unfinished alloy blank" which oddly i haven't heard that mentioned this time...
These don’t sound all that different from Meinl Byzance extra Dry, Dream Dark matter(which are incredibley underrated), and any old xildijian dry cymbal. Such a gimmicky product. At least it looks kinda cool? Maybe? XD
@@handidrummed Zildjian actually back in the early-mid 1900s, though it was never sold to the public, a few zildjian artists used it as an fx type cymbal, as it didn't have a specific cymbal sound.
@@cooldude2847 well zildjian have done it before and it is an idea and some people may like it, I'm not saying I do it will get one, it's just different
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These sound nice for special purposes, but the price tag is the same as with finished crashes. Ridicilous. Most of the price of a cymbal comes from the craft and manufacturing process, theres no way these should cost this much. Just Zildjian hype prices i guess.
Not saying that this balances the production cost, but I guess for these cymbals the storage and transport cost more, because of irregular shape.
The marketing budget of Zildjian is not inconsiderable (inc all the artists they support worldwide). The manufacturing cost of each cymbal regardless of finish is probably not that much and controlled mostly by the price of metal and energy.
I do think these would be a personal choice for sound and aesthetics and not something I would choose.
Best cymbals
Hey there! Despite their name, the Raw Crashes actually take longer to make and pass through more hands in the process than other cymbals.
Because these are not lathed, any flaws that exist in the rolled casting are going to be part of the finished cymbal. For this reason, only the most ideal rolled castings are hand-selected to become Raw Crashes. Their edges are also hand trimmed to eliminate any gaps that naturally occur during the rolling process.
All this to say, the sound may be "Raw" but the process is still very much labor intensive. 😊
@@ZildjianCompany ::insert Ron Burgundy "I don't believe you" meme::
I’m a fan of zildjian but I’m not paying hundreds of bucks for a half finished cymbal
Edit: lol they removed the heart.
Same here.
Same they sound horrible imo good god.
They didn’t remove the heart, when you edit a comment, the heart automatically disappears.
@@thedrinkerofH2O the heart didn’t appear before I edited it.
thank you.
These look like the cymbals we had in my middle school band class after they cut funding to the arts 🤣
I wonder if they are trimmed into a perfect circle?
It's actually just a regular cymbals after trimmed 🤣
Yes they're not
😂
Sooooo basically $300 to return to the crash sound of that $75 starter drum kit you bought from a yard sale/pawn shop when you first started out. Lol 😂
The way that all these drummers look (or refuse to look) at these cymbals should tell you everything.
I have a question:
Are these trimmed into a perfect circle?
Hey there! The FX Raw Crashes are not trimmed into perfect circles. The variations in profile, shape, size, and edge consistency are what create the wildly individual sounds from one crash to the next.
You can learn more here: zildjian.com/fx-raw-crashes-1.html
Lol
Haha
I got bunch of broken cymbals that sound identical to these.
HAH ! SAME THOUGHT !
This cymbal is the ugliest cymbal that i ever look
You guys should market these as dry rides of some sort. They seem to fit that sonic profile a little more than a crash…which is something you want to be reliable, space filling and decay-oriented.
It's basically a blank with a bell.
So basically what he is saying is they didn’t do anything to the sheet of metal that they normally do to a normal cymbal and charging same price for basically barely any work done into making this sheet of metal. They should’ve made these half the price and they would be a cool little effect cymbal or dry ride but no way I’m paying the same price as a normal finished cymbal for these.
????? Thats the cheapest zildjin in my kit by far
@@Somemusicguy1995 yeah I think he's used to zbt trash lol.
Not trying to troll here but what's next? Selling the raw castings?
Hey, customer is king but
A: you're actually selling unfinished stuff at a high end price, so viva financial margin
B: yes every cymbal is unique, but it's quite already the case.
Conclusion : of course the cymbals are good, you know how to make them. Please sell them at an affordable price already
What a brilliant idea. Lets take a bunch of our reject crap, that's to out of shape to make round or lathe, call them custom and charge a fortune for them. Oh yeah and say each has a unique sound and is 'OFFICALLY' part of our range.
Which might make sense if they didn't recycle all the rejects. Although, I can imagine this product was envisaged by someone trying a "reject" and making thr case they should sell such a product.
Not only that but they’re stamped into shape by a hydraulic press and trimmed to roundness
“Too out of shape” this is impossible, every cymbal can be trimmed and shaped with their press. This was inspired by drummers who toured their factory, and as they listened to the raw unlathed blanks, they realized that it could be a cool addition to the catalog.
There really cheap and sound great compaired to other effect cymbals, might wanna broaden your tone bud
thats just what I thought, they thoght. these fools will buy anythigh with the Zildjiam name, we dont have to finish, lathe.
For god sake,i can create that sound with a couple of trashcan,come on zildjian !
Lol your tone deff
@@Somemusicguy1995 i see you everywhere in this comment section posing the exact same remark
I fu#$ing hate this, and I’m a Zildjian nut!!!! I love Zildjian, but why would anybody buy trash can lids????? They sound like cracked expensive cymbals,,,, no way I’m buying this,,,,, come on Zildjian,,,, keep your workers making amazing cymbals like Ks and K customs!!!!
I love mine. Sorry you have a narrow tone vocabulary though
I was litterally thinking the other day of how this would be a great idea to have the unfinished cymbals be used
It's like paying $250 for denim jeans with holes and tears in them
Zildjian selling the cymbals they messed up and couldn't finish for $300 each...
Tone deff I see
"no two are alike" oh ok like a normal Zildjian.....
just got the large bell one ::: those are awesome !! It sit on my Jazz and ethno kits as a perfect match!!
Better be cheep
Its not
$300 LOOOOOOOOOOL
That would be cool with some cluster rivets
Would be cooler if it wasn't the same price as a lathed, hammered and trimmed cymbal.
💯 rivets would be amazing
@@matthewg4556 these take more time to make and are extreamly fair priced for B20 bronze, cheapest cymbal on my kit too
Now I get some of the hate BUT. I'd love to get one of these for the funk. They're still cymbals technically.
“Hmmm….I know what we can do, guys! Our customers are idiots so they won’t mind paying almost 400 dollars for a f$@& cymbal blank with a logo on it! We can do 1/3 of the work and put a huge markup on it!” 😈🙏
This is what would happen if Salvador Dali made cymbals
Har har har yea
Yo does anybody know the name of the song that Dexter Hercules is playing??
please bring back the trap stack!!!
this is a very expensive trash can lid. at least if my can falls over, the lid wont break. :)
Thats a pretty cheap cymbal dude. Sounds great
I NEED one of these immediately, absolutely Love the sound and look of these cymbals. Zildjian this was a brilliant idea for the EFX line. I absolutely love them for dance music
Anyone know are these pretty thin crashes? Or are they kind of heavy?
A cynical rip-off in my opinion - a cymbal that has only been through half the manufacturing process should have a price that reflects this. I have radiators indoors that sound nicer than these! Shame on you, Zildjian.
I would actually guess these have more manufacturing process rather than their general lathe/molds. These would have a very fine line in term of shape between sounding cool and being garbage. I highly doubt these are random uniquely shaped
Very organic-sound oriented right?
I liked how they sounded in lounge type music.
Hi are they hammered into shape?
Took an old cymbal, ran it over with my SUV and created one of these trash cymbal for free.
Are they trimmed into a perfect circle or not
You guys on here are trippin' !! I'd gladly pay THREE TIMES the price for these!! BEST cymbals I've EVER heard!!
Nah these are worked way less than other cymbals at this price point
hope this is sarcasm
Are you the guy in the video on a ghost account?
What song is Dexter playing??
Over priced the apple cymbals
I am better off playing the brass cymbals that come with entry level kits.
The brass won't have the same 'Body' nor Durability.
They will sound like trash anyway
@@luisbaluarte4927 Yeah I don't have an practical use for things like that.
They missed trick here, they could sell an individual unique cymbal bag to go with each cymbal, no 2 bags alike.
Guy in the video: "this is our most raw and unfinished cymbal, no two sound the same."
Checks price: riiiiiiigggghhhtttttt....so 300 for a random unfinished cymbal
That sounds about right, it's the cheapest one on my kit
This sound fantastic, dry and dirty.
I have a cymbal that sounds just like this. It's a garbage can lid. And it's also not ground into a perfect circle.
Dude...I just found out how old this company is, wow.....
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Red crash?
It's like DeShaun Watson buying a date that stutters
Agarraron un plato a medio hacer del suelo y le pusieron una etiqueta de precio, me encanta el marketing.
I think everybody would be sold on these if they were much cheaper (like 100-150$)
agreed. i’d probably have one
@@griggindrums9101 they sound awesome, don’t get me wrong, but cymbals should be worth their worksmanship, labor, and machinery costs
An affordable, awesome sounding cymbal is something we all need
Lol trying to sell all the duds
Damn man, the pandemic really fucked up the QC of cymbal manufacturers, huh? This is the pinnacle of "it's a feature, not a bug." They look like they came out of a house fire.
Thru don't sound very good, honestly.
Well of course Eric Harland can make them sound musical, who you foolin 😑
Just curious, if you don’t LOVE the sound of yours… can you swap it out for another one. Seeing how each is unique?
Hey Joe, great question! Because they are not exchangeable online, we recommend visiting your local retailer to try them out in person and find the one that best speaks to you 😊
sounds like my garage door
Hi Dexter ❤️❤️❤️
Haha, no thanks. Nice try Zildjian
Just buy chines brass cymbals for 10 times cheaper instead of paying the price tag of a fully finished cymbal
That isn't a ride at all like wth... My Zildjian 20" K Custom Session Ride blows this crap out of the water. Come on guys...
Great idea horrible price zildjian is becoming a joke
God they sound so bad. Zildjian sucks at making raw/dry cymbals. Leave that to Meinl and Istanbul. Focus on making your refined flashy rock cymbals. This is kind of embarrassing tbh.
So it’s just a China cymbal???
Or you can use a trashcan lid
Must be scrap metal price as they sound like that! 🤦🏼♂️😆
Tone deff I see
🤦♂️😆😆😆
Ive got a cracked wuhan that sounds exactly as "interesting'
April fool.
Where is Paul? „Brand Manager“, dafuq has Zildjian become..
Paul might have been fired for admitting in the video for these from last year that these are "basically an unfinished alloy blank" which oddly i haven't heard that mentioned this time...
lol Is this a joke????
I want them as a hi hat, make it so. Jk, that would be ass .
meh. I'm going to NickyMoon next for sure.
Listen i dont hate this but im better off with pearl cymbals
Half the work, twice the price.
Sounds awful
These don’t sound all that different from Meinl Byzance extra Dry, Dream Dark matter(which are incredibley underrated), and any old xildijian dry cymbal. Such a gimmicky product. At least it looks kinda cool? Maybe? XD
jajajaja crap
Nah...
Mejor pongo la tapa de olla de mi mamá
sounds like shitty broken cymbals
Pretty bad wtf
Oh look, zildjian stealing other companies ideas! What a surprise!
They did it a year ago as well, zildjian are not stealing other companies ideas, they are just fulfilling zildjian artist requests
What company did this first?
@@handidrummed Zildjian actually back in the early-mid 1900s, though it was never sold to the public, a few zildjian artists used it as an fx type cymbal, as it didn't have a specific cymbal sound.
It's literally a cymbal blank with a bell stamped. This is no one's original idea.
@@cooldude2847 well zildjian have done it before and it is an idea and some people may like it, I'm not saying I do it will get one, it's just different
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