Holley Sniper Wiring and FIRST START of the 408 Stroker F-150
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Its time for an update on the 500hp 1993 F-150 we've been slowly building in the background. This truck is a single cab short bed, XLT, 4wd F-150, and was powered by a standard 351w when it left the factory. Since then, we have removed the 351 and installed an @BluePrint_Engines 408 stroker windsor that makes 468hp and 507 lb.ft. of torque, and attached it to the original E4OD transmission. The engine is controlled by a @HolleyPerformance Super Sniper EFI and the trans will be controlled by a US Shift TCM. This time we cover some of the wiring needed to make it all work, the AC Compressor kick and WOT disable, factory gauge wiring, and of course we do the first fire up and it sounds INSANE with the @BlackWidowExhaust Venom 250s.
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You are the only person on RUclips or TV, as far as I’m aware, that is doing anything besides restoration type content on 92-96 ford trucks. Even if you don’t like them. No one else is doing any kind of performance content on these trucks unless it has to do with a power stroke. I really appreciate all the details given in this video as I have a sniper on my obs Ford. Keep up the great work!
i mean you can check my channel out for 5.0 / 5.8 EFI stuff modifying E7 stuff such as heads / intake / truck plenum
Probably cause they are such a pain to deal with unless you have thousands of dollars to toss into it. I was given a 4wd 92 150 when my grandpa died. I did all the suspension and it drives great, but it's gutless and can't get any easy power from it so it's probably going up for sale. Time for me to be done with ford's all together
I think your long talks are what separate you from other RUclipsrs, it makes me feel like I'm just in your garage holding a cold beverage while you explain this cool build you're working on. Much more personal than other auto channels.
much appreciated!
Stuff like this, definitely! It is not a obvious choice what can be talked about for 24 minutes straight. Nobody wants to listen to how a gm floor mounted dimmer switch works. Everyone already knows it's unicorn tears!
This is the kind of talking that requires zero apology. I could listen to this all day
Talk as much as you need man, it’s interesting. Do what you did on this one for anyone who wants to skip.
Im doing a 347 stroker in a 90, i could not figure out the fuel for my sniper kit, thank you so freaking much. Nobody seems to do this and i was lost. I now know how very informational
I think this one was a record for talking without stopping! skip to 18:55 if you just wanna head the 408 windsor running, it sounds amazing! thanks for the support guys!
I don’t mind the talking. Some of the stuff you have talked about in previous videos have helped me out
The mark of a professional is making the wiring serviceable, nothing is worse than having to cut wires to service things, I hate to admit it but when I was younger I did things that way. For wiring I am an avionics tech so I use a lot of aircraft practices when wiring a car so I prefer crimps, they are also easier, the ones I prefer are the uninsulated ones and I use heat shrink over them it just leaves a good clean look and I can provide ample strain relief. I enjoy hearing you talk because a lot of good information comes out and that can be helpful even if not now years later I can remember hey LT did a video on that so I can look it up.
much appreciated! thanks for the kind words
One of my favorite Ford body styles! That 408 sounds killer!!! Enjoy your work LT
I have a 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 with 209,000 miles and still going strong. The only things I replaced on my truck was the starter, the fuel pump, and the power steering megunisum but other than that mostly was just simple maintenance, took out the transmission fluid just to get rid of the shuttering it was making and it hasn't had a problem ever since. I have a video of it on my channel if you want to come see it sometimeruclips.net/video/mWdlh5OCJEg/видео.html
@@CJColvin Those are still some pretty hefty repairs for a truck that only has 200K on it.
@@tskraj3190 How many miles does you're truck have.
@@CJColvin My last had 487K but I didn't see any major repairs until 225K which was the ABS booster pump, then I had to replace the motor mounts shortly after then a U-joint at 280K. My most expensive repair was the torque converter at 320K ish. My current truck has 239K but no repairs of yet except for your basic brakes, tires and battery.
@@tskraj3190 Thats awesome man.
Knowledge is power dude, keep those explanations coming.
I had a 90 Ranger that the clutch pedal went through the firewall. What a rust bucket. My mechanic made me get rid of it after he spot welded a brace. I got 250k out of the LIMA. Lots of memories with your project. Thanks,
I’ve seen those TTB axles put in work as a long travel kit. A solid front axle will do more harm then good in a pre runner style build.
Exactly what I was thinking. The TTB is notorious for pre-runner style builds.
Listen to this guy
Please do a thorough tech on getting the E4od to play well with the Holley. Love the channel!
+1
Or use a stand alone controller for the transmission… thats what im gonna do so i can convert my 300 to a carb set up
Most older automatic transmissions can be controlled by the factory computer even after carb swap. All they really need to see is a tachometer signal and a vehicle speed sensor.
@@keeganlangford5580 E4OD has to have a TPS signal as well. I've been trying to figure out how to get one to play nice with FiTech.
@@CentralArkansasHomesteadandOff You're correct. I forgot they need to see that as well.TCI makes a nice universal remote mount TPS. I'm running one on my silverado with a carb and 4l60e
Don't let the haters get to you LT. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing your hard work.
One of my favorite body styles! That 408 sounds killer!! Enjoy your videos And the quality of your work LT
Awesome work on the old Ford LT and that 408 Stroker Windsor V8 sounds like a beast.
Went through all the same things with my 1990 Bronco. Replaced it with the same Earl's connectors and hose.
I LOVE this ford content! Not enough of it!! Inspires me on my own 94 f150 that I am 351W swapping with a fresh rebuild and cam with new trans + 4x4 swap!
i have a 96 and im trying to swap it from 4x4 to 2wd, if you need parts let me know
Tommy get on the Ford truck enthusiast forum. I used them for my 94 150 351w heads and can build and e4od build. Lot of knowledgeable folks on that forum.
LT, thanks for the details the complainer can just be patient.
The Baja 1000 was won with twin I-beam suspension. This should be considered before swapping out to a solid front axle if he wants a Pre-Runner type vehicle. Solid front axles are better for mud trucks.
Love this project. My first brand new vehicle was a 91 F150 SW.
your always very informative and entertaining and don't mind the the long talks. I'm an aircraft mechanic and can confirm we never solder crimps only because it's more reliable
thanks! and glad to hear that on the connections, makes me happy I went with crimps
I appreciate I’ll the content you provide. No matter how long it takes. Keep it up. Love the Chanel!
Excellent video. I’m looking to put Holley sniper EFI on my 1995 and this is the best tech I have found in days of searching. Thank you for the high quality video and tech. 🍻👍👍
Really appreciate all the work your putting into your channel. It’s a go to for me. As soon as I get off work I gotta check and see if there’s a new video. Been watching you for years on tv and it’s cool to see you on RUclips.
Awesome! Thank you!
The black widow exhaust sounds great. I have the there race venom muffler on my truck.
That ttb is a great set up for a pre runner build, way better then a solid axle. The guys at solo motor sports have some great upgrades for them. I would go that route if he wants to build an OBS Raptor
I completely agree
Yep. Good all around tbh. I've got mine on a 6 inch lift and no alignment issues like everyone says.
Lot of good wiring knowledge. Also I just built my e4od behind my heads and cam 351w in my 94 f150 4x4 and I want to say don’t underestimate that transmission there is a lot of inexpensive upgrades you can do to make that transmission solid as a rock. i.e. planetary’s, adding clutches, +later version 4r100 upgrades and converting it to a high pressure unit
Unique build LT! Wicked man! Last era of solid Ford trucks ever made!
I've got a Terminator X on a 5.0 out of an Explorer with a T5 behind it, in a 2001 Ranger. Once I switched from the dis ignition to a MSD distributor w/ CD box AND added the Terminator X over the factory ECU, it woke it up so much. I need to get back into it and get it running!
As a comic said, “Whoa. Someone found the chili pepper in the candy dish.” Sounds great LT.
I’ve followed you since the truck tech days and I’m a die hard Ford guy. Don’t stop the ford content and maybe don’t hate on it as much when you’re forced to work on it lol. They all have pros and cons.
I'm so glad you took the time to explain the wiring! I've had a hard time finding anything regarding wiring harnesses, computer and after market wiring when using a different motor in my OBS.
He should keep the I beams if he wants a prerunner. Contact the bronco factory in riverside, ca or giant motorsports.
Hard to keep it aligned with that set up. Solid axle for the win.
Love this! I was thinking about getting a Holly Sniper efi for my ext.cab k1500
Keep up the fantastic work LT . Really enjoying this build.
Thanks, will do!
I like seeing the old Ford seen plenty of GM stuff
Please keep up the detailed content. Honestly those just looking for engine revs, burnouts, and rock music, supah abbreviated build montages can go watch powernation for all I care lol
I'm really loving this, I am working on a 95 f150 xlt 2wd, just sent the 302 to become a 347 stroker with a 650 carb, this wiring gave me insight and ideas because I had no idea how or what I was going to do or if there is a harness on the market for such a build, please continue with the ford upgrades there are more of us ford people than you think. thank you!!
Man oh man that Ford sounds SICK!
Love the content and all the explanations sir. You keep being you, and doing just what you do! Your experience in these builds help people with their builds! You Rock!
Just gave me soo much great information for me to save when I install a sniper kit into my 90 bronco!!!
7:24 you ain't lying, I just learned about the earls 5/16" quick connect fittings in this and that's what I'm going to go with now on my 1996 331 explorer build. Thanks!
thats awesome love these kind of builds....keep up the great content....
It sounds freaking awesome can't beat a healthy Ford engine
I like your explinations of how it works. Nice hat..
I have a 1994 f150, that I changed to a carbureted fuel system, and used the OEM fuel lines. I also cannibalized a FI fuel rail for the fittings, but I brazed them to the aftermarket parts. No leaks, and they work perfectly.
Engine looks great and sounds great. So close to hitting assault. 🤞🏻
Russell makes the fittings to go from spring loc to 6 and 8an
You do really great work man enjoying the content
I LOVE THIS Ford content....I love the tech end of this project so, thank you LT
I'm so glad you did this and added in the little details I have a bronco on order but it's taken so long I might cancel it and thinking about buying a 90s bronco and throwing an LS in it and then modding it from there and I was trying to figure out what I would use for the EFI system and how that wiring would work out cuz I hate wiring so very cool to see stuff like this especially cuz you kept the AC on Phoenix and I have to have AC
We use solder in aviation. Less prone to corrosion. More secure mechanical connection. I'd think crimp connections could vibrate loose over time. All cannon plugs in aviation are soldered as far as I know. Love the series! Even though it's a Ford. Keep it up!
Yea but in avionics im sure yall see higher frequency vibrations that will rattle loose crimp connection, there are also different types of crimp connections that will work better than others… ive fixed some fire trucks by simply changing the type of connector/crimp.. even tho the sockets were the same, the crimp style wouldnt allow the data link to communicate but once i changed it out to a better style crimp everything started jiving and fire chiefs were happier
That body style was the first truck I ever owned Ford F150, I like this content at least. Just because it's not GM doesn't bother me a bit.
I’m excited to see the Super Duty axle swap on an F150. I’ve seen a bunch on 250s and 350s.
LT, talk all you want. You’re putting out good content with good descriptions. You don’t do hack jobs so I would expect half-baked explanations of what you’re doing and why. Keep up the good work.
For stuff like adapting fittings and other "low strength" work, you should check out silicon bronze filler rods and TIG brazing.
If done correctly, the material will fail before the braze and becuase you're not melting the base material you don't make wierd alloys...if something does bubble up, it's easy to smooth out the area too.
FYI, the "diode resistor" is a diode and resistor in series. It's wired so that the diode is normally reverse biased (not passing current) and when the clutch kicks off, it absorbs the voltage spike from the magnetic field collapsing.
thanks for the explanation on the ford Diode Resistor!
@@LawrenceTolman
My pleasure man, thanks for the awesome videos!
(also yt didn't ping me for 2 week, a very responsive system apparently)
Love the channel, keep up the awesome builds and talk away!
Glad you like them!
When I installed my Holley Terminator x on my big block in my F350 I ran my -6 fuel lines the same way except I took the return all the way back to my fuel tank selector valve and I plumbed them into my stock big block fuel rails. The only issue I had was finding the proper spring lock for the big block fuel rails. The feed side on the 460 is a 1/2" barrel and the return side is a 3/8", it was difficult (at the time) to find someone who had a 1/2" barrel - 6 spring lock. The 3/8 are everywhere because every mustang fuel rail in the 90s is that size.
My only regret is that I wish I would have run dash 8 for both feed and return, at my current power level - 6 is adequate but my goal is going to make me have to upgrade again.
I think the truck sounds nice, very good information, I have a 95 f150 and the motor blew but replaced with a crate motor with gt heads but I still have the old efi system want to switch to sniper setup, now I have an idea of what's ahead.
Good job LT!!
So much good info in this video. You’ve done a amazing job on this I’ve been fallowing it the whole way. I’m more ford guy then Chevy
Great work LT, she sounds thick!!! Love the FoMoCo content.... keep it coming. Cheers.
Good job
Thanks
I appreciate you “talking so much” because I own a obs Ford and it’s interesting to hear you explain how you made this work. What size belt did you use?
I've got a solid axled short bed off-road truck. Works great. Alot stronger than ttb or the ifs. I run a 557.
Good info LT. Keep the content coming.
Love the Ford OBS build!!!
thanks so much for the videos LT or is it DR. LT great content , hope to see more of your mighty mouse 4.8 chevy
Outstanding! Sounds great!
Thanks a lot!
Fantastic work and even better video skills. Great to see a clean obs f150 being built the correct way! Gained a subscriber in the first 5 mins of this video I’ll tell u that haha
I think this success deserves a mandatory garage burnout
thanks so much for just telling us about it for 25 min
Sounds great!
Sounds really good 👍!!!
It does!
When you splice wires with solder, the copper hardens and looses it's annealing. The solder itself doesn't fail, but the wire fails right beside the joint where it was heated. It's typically not a problem with splice joints, but I've seen it happen in areas with lots of wire movement.
I used to believe that soldering was the best way of joining wires but then I had too many connections fail just the way that you described and I changed my opinion about soldering.
That’s the primary reason that soldered joints are forbidden in aircraft.
Gorgeous truck
I'm not a Ford guy at all but I love the channel and all the content. Keep it up whatever you work on!
Thanks! Will do!
Your doing a Great job. Keep it up. Very informative, I actually like all the Details. Much appreciated. If you can I'd like to purchase one of those oil catch can brackets you made for your LS. Engine.
Interesting. I own a '95 Bronco and wanted a back up plan incase my rare one year only PCM went south. Does the owner of the truck want you to keep the cruise control working? If so, how?
If you can figure out how to keep the cruise working along with the gauges and A/C (which you showed), I'd be sold on this setup.
I believe the cruise will work just like before, since its an analog system independent (I believe) from the PCM.. As long as it sees a speed signal, it will (I think) work, its just a matter of hooking up the cable to the sniper
@@LawrenceTolman Thanks for responding. If you do end up getting the cruise to work, please post.
I’m a chevy guy but that is a sweet truck and it sounds great
299👍's up LT thanks again for taking us all along with you
my 2001 Chevy suderben has LS 408 ci
it made 554 foot pounds of torque
it made 412 hp
who's going to tune the car in after you get it running because with that EFI on there you're still going to have to program a fuel curve in it you're still going to have to give it the timing curve it even though it says itself learning it's not I got the bigger one and I'm having a hell of a time
hey my suburban at 408 is running off the stock computer in the car cuz I took it to a place and they reflashed the computer to control the 408 before l80e in my suburban never works so good there are 6 l is underpowered for a 4L80E
I'm thinking the Ford A/C diode resistor is one of each in parallel to prevent a high voltage spike coming back into the ECM and through the underhood harness when the compressor is disengaged.
Damnnnn 🥵🥵🥵 looks good bud 👌
thanks!
With a stand alone tcm that e4od should be fine they was put behind 7.3 diesels fords programming is what holds them back very strong transmission
Awesome truck
Now these are the last of the real ford f150 trucks.
You should do a video on the TCM controller because when we installed ours it was way more complicated than i anticipated. We still are having problems with it holding a memory. It is having to be reset all the time
Viewership is down because them Bowtie boys can’t afford the Oval Life!!! We are a different breed and this video comes up in direct searches!!! Awesome work on that truck! I have a 1988 Bricknose F150 with a 351W and a 1985 Bullnose F150 with a 302 and. 2014 STX with a 3.7 (had to save on gas somewhere lol) and I appreciate the Ford Video!!! Oval Life !!!💪🏾
I am planning to the same setup on my 92 f150 but did you have to upgrade the fuel pump and Keep up the great work and keep those explanations coming very helpful.
It would still be cool showing all the plumbing/wiring
Welding those fittings can be done with silicone bronze with tig not brazing rod unless your using a torch brazing rods for torch are different and will spatter and pop . You can also use silver soldier or silver soldier with flux as far as brazing goes . Dorman also has a kit that joins two lines with compression fittings . They also sold those oring to AN fitting in jegs and summit s mustang section .
I've never tried the SiBronze rod, maybe I should have here. I did see a lot of the Mustang spring lock fittings, but when I read the measurements, they were a little different from what I found on the F-150. Looks cleaner this way anyhow...
@@LawrenceTolman your better off without them there usually 3/8 plastic line reduced
down to a 1/4" hole in the fitting or braided steel lime . Silicone bronze is good for thin metals and dissimilar ones as well . Works well when modifying fuel tanks for sumps as most gastanks are coated or galvinized .
Love the ford stuff. Nice to see something besides GM stuff.
LT Fords Diode-Resistor is on every Ford from I think 83-96, it is a diode with a resistor in series and you can confirm this easily with a DVOM. Resistances may vary depending on the circuit design, if memory serves the positive is via the interior harness and the ground is ECM/EEC-IV controlled.
The ground is also in series with the A/C low pressure switch, then to the A/C Clutch, through the Diode-Resistor and finally to ground usually on the fender near the hood hinge on the same side of the engine bay as the A/C Compressor. Myself being a Ford guy I have 5 vehicles all of with have this same A/C circuit with Diode-Resistor:
84 Ford F150 XLT 2WD with 2BBL Carb & DuraSpark III
85 Mercury Grand Marquis LS with TBI & EEC-IV
85 Ford F250 XLT Lariat 4WD with 4BBL Carb & DuraSpark III
86 Mercury Grand Marquis GS with EFI & EEC-IV
91 Ford F150 XL with EFI & EEC-IV
Fords circuit design for this A/C Circuit is to apply the “A/C Clutch with A/C Low Pressure Cycling through a resistive ground with back feed protection”. Through all the Ford Tech Manuals & Service Manuals I had to read and do research to properly diagnose customers vehicles as well as my own. This is the only explanation from the terms and service data available.
Fords EEC-IV Computer is predominantly a ground side switched system with exception to sensors that are provided a 5 Volt Reference, sensor signal reference & sensor ground. All 12 Volt loads including the ECM and solenoids are provided power via the ignition “interior harness” and operated via EEC-IV “engine harness” by computer ground side switching.
Also the Ford EEC-IV ECM already had a “Throttle Kicker” circuit for 100-165 rpm boost for A/C Operation as well as a A/C Clutch High rpm Disengage circuit when high throttle body angle is detected via the TPS. It’s likely you cut those wires thinking it was unneeded ford circuits although this would require you keep both the Holley ECM & the Ford EEC-IV ECM in the vehicle and working together which is easy enough to achieve.
Man next time ask in the video if anyone of us watching can help with Ford Electrical systems. We can save you the need for adding in circuits that are already there from the factory and will work with or in parallel with the aftermarket add-on’s. Ford circuits are just as easy to figure out as GM circuits and by far easier than the Mopar circuitry. Ford from 79-97 used basically the same circuitry with small additions or subtractions depending on vehicle options.
good info there! Wouldn't the stock AC kick just be tied into the stock IAC circuits as a PWM signal?
@@LawrenceTolman No, not on the old early model EEC-IV engines, IAC’s weren’t introduced until later 85 to early 86 models. You have to remember the earlier and older EEC-IV was kind of archaic technology but still it’s there an functions much the same. The only differences were on the DuraSpark III or “end of model year EEC-III” the A/C as well as the cruise control. These were both in series with the EEC III & EEC-IV controlled engines via an additional A/C Control Module and Cruise Control Module because there was no ECM on conventional carbureted engines.
There were parallels due to Ford coming out with the new Fuel Injection Models I.E. the “later feedback carb with sensors” and the “early TBI” engines. Although, if they were equipped with a feedback carb, the late EEC-III and early EEC-IV did monitor the feedback carb electronically which was rare “late 83 to early 84 models” with feedback carb only. On the “later 83 to early 85” TBI engines to there was no IAC so the Throttle Kicker which was electronically controlled and vacuum operated which was a step up from earlier completely vacuum controlled & operated TK’s.
The later 85 to early 96 model Ford vehicles with EEC-IV finally came with the IAC as a one piece Throttle Kicker, whereas before the TK consisted of a ECM ground switched solenoid that allowed vacuum to be applied to the vacuum operated TK. The which the A/C used it to control engine idle as well as the throttle kicker function to boost the engine 100-165 rpm for A/C Compressor operation and to assist with cruise control. The cruise control even into the early 90’s was still gnd switched by the EEC-IV via an additional A/C control module though still was vacuum operated.
@@LawrenceTolman The Fords had much overlap between the engine control systems in the early 80’s through the early 90’s, many things were controlled by EEC-IV ground side switching but still vacuum operated. Hell, it worked for over a decade with little problems and my vehicles still have the 36 year old ground side switched solenoids that control vacuum to different things I.E. the emissions system (EGR, TAB, TAD, TK & Electric choke assist) on my 85 Grand Marquis LS with TBI. Get this LT, everything still works just as it did then with no issues either.
All that aside, the model truck your working on is a later model with the best EEC-IV system on it. Still many things controlled by an electric solenoid and vacuum operated. Though in your specific case with a stroker engine with aftermarket fuel injection, the additional controls aren’t necessary for your current application. Those 2 relays you installed were overkill because, the old EEC-IV could still remain in its location controlling A/C. Better still, if your customer would still want cruise control functions that can be done as well though I doubt it due to the quote prerunner mods that are going to be completed.
At the very least LT everything I’m telling you can be confirmed with a cheap $24.95 Haynes manual for the parts store or the web, which was how I got started before I started using actual Ford service manuals due to the cost and necessity. The wiring diagrams are insightful and easy to read even compared to current electronic diagrams from ALLDATA or Mitchell-On-Demand as well as OEM. Guess what LT that diode-resistor is in there and just like one the vehicle it’s shown in series as diode-resistor in one part. It was a Ford thing!!!! Lol.......
@@LawrenceTolman Anytime you need help or quick answers ask man, Ford guys know a lot about their Fords you just have to know the difference between a hack and an actual Old Ford Tech like myself. We come from the generation where back in the day telling our tricks to others was a job safety thing, if the young guys had youth and old school knowledge we got cut loose to save a buck. Now it’s even worse, youngsters think they know but still don’t and get paid to much.
My co-workers always hated when I would see them fussing with a problem, I’d walk up an say hey check this or that then walk away. 95% of the time the problem got fixed and they’d be like how the hell did you know that was it, I’d say years of curse words, sweat and blood working on my own son. Knowledge is far better remembered by learning on your own because, if it’s given to you without doing it yourself often it get forgotten.
Today guys like your fellow you tubers “Scanner Danner”, “South Main Auto Repair LLC”, “Eric the car guy”, “BrewtL”, “Foxcast Media” and “Neomustang” are just a few of the guys that are either Ford enthusiast or actual Former and Current Professional diagnosticians. These guys offer a wealth of Ford, GM and many other vehicle knowledge and most of them have forums to ask questions and get reliable answers moderately quick.
Great content LT
That truck looks and sounds almost as good as mine does.😉
You’re a beast and a asset
Is that a single and or dual plane intake? I've heard throttle bodies like this don't always work very good with the dual plane.
it is a dual plane, so we'll see how it works out!
LT? Come on man, since when is 468 almost 500😜 lol. Thanks for the update, it's a cool build.
call it a rounding error lol... I was going off the top of my head and thought at first it was a little higher than it was
Please detail the USShift/Baumann install! There isn't enough documentation on these things and I want to use one on my E4OD Ford transmission.
great video did you grab your 12v source from the red/light green wire? just asking because my red/light green wire is hot all the time.
What headers did you get to fit in there and what size primaries do they have. Great video!