Beating the Age of Empires II HD (The Forgotten) AI on Hardest
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This is simply a recording of me beating the new AI on Hardest difficulty.
I wrote down my build order here for those of you who are interested:
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Amazed by how many people are being so easily fooled by this, since the AI is obviously advancing way too slowly for hardest and on hardest would simply defeat this strat by swarming that forward base with units (the AI in this vid has far fewer units than a real hardest would). If you want proof look at the obvious edit: at 0:20 the human player name is Galaksius but then at 0:35 it's suddenly Icosebyte. This is a simple editing trick. The game you're watching isn't hardest, and anyone actually thinking should have been suspicious of the too few units the AI was throwing at the player! I bet Icosebyte is giggling behind his hand at how much adulation and upvotes he's gotten by simply splicing a video of him picking the "hardest" difficulty on the game setup screen together with a video of him beating the AI on standard or moderate! Hat tip to earlier commenter
Gaël Maryns for pointing out the video's edited.
I thought so myself. I didn't even see how it cut out but I thought that they were leveling up way to slow. The bots are normally on castle age within 10 minutes of the game
Shit. I was fooled. I even typed a praising reply before I saw your comment.
My friend ..I noticed that from the first two sec ..the score in the right corner ..is equal ..will in hardest the AI will be a much ahead of you from the beginning
I don't have words for what I just watched. You did an awesome work, I'm still learning to play this game well and i can hardly beat the cpu in moderate level and I thought that was impossible to beat cpu in hardest one. Thank a million for making this vídeo.
Canal SDR Thanks for the kind words!
It is indeed possible in AoC. I managed to beat 3 hardest AI simultaneously with a fast castle + stone wall strategy as the Mongols. Eventually I pushed out with my Rams, couple trebs and an army of elite mangudai and hussars.
Now do it on a giant map with 8 players
This is NOT hardest. AI upgrades to feudal age in 5 mins even on moderate.
+George Washington It is. Are you sure you are playing with The Forgotten (not the new AI)?
+Jakes Is the forgotten version is easier than others, cuz even in standard difficuty, why they advance to feudal age in 5mins so quickly?
CPU doesn't have delays between clicks etc. Just record your game and watch it as CPU side. You'll see. Some versions of CPU have more resources. If harder difficulty then more resources.
+George Washington are you sure you haven't put on turbo mode?
in 7 minutes, they attacked and killed me.
nice video tho
Ya.. because it is hardest level...
& In this video it's not hardest but it is easiest level
I highly doubt thats the hardest difficulty.
the trick is to harrass your opponents economy in the beginning
It actually is.
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@@lufenmartofilia5804 than* this guy
@@lufenmartofilia5804 Yeah one thing I noticed is the AI here only builds fishing ships, when I recently played they built an early dock like this guy's AI did, but they built loads of warships out of it and I couldn't go anywhere near the coast. They also had a large army, as I discovered when I attacked assuming that since they had so many ships they can't possibly have a big army as well, though it turns out they did. Even quite early on they had warships so there's no way I could have done what this guy did, look how near the coast his barracks/range/stable are. My game was only Moderate difficulty though.
It isn't. check the very beginning, his username changes. (0:20 to 0:35).
as far as i know, in the Forgotten Empire Edition, if you use skirmisher to attack the AI villagers, they're gonna fight back :(
In the game i played they had feudel age in 5min 35, inpossible to keep up...
+Jens Allert That's because the computer gets a resource infusion every age. The higher the difficulty, the larger the resource infusion.
The name of the player is different at the beginning of the game and during the game. It's clearly not in hardest difficulty. Lots of beginner mistakes (deers not hunted, 10 villies on berries, 1 lumber camp instead of 2...)
The names are the same...
+PipCheese© I think it's hardest but the names are different galacious in lobby isobyte in game
+Wyatt Boylan edit galaksious, icosebyte
@@Dirtlamp It obviously isn't hardest, the AI advances too slowly and has too few units.
@@legion637 People so want to believe they are hallucinating now... Does Galaksius look the same as Icosebyte to you?
Play like this on steam's AOE2 HD and you won't survive beyond first 10mins.
This is AOE2HD..
What are the hotkeys to tell units to move to one place then another?
Shift+right-click
Icosebyte Thanks!
@@Icosebyte so it's my mouse that stopped working... ok, thank you lol
From the comment, this video is a fake, thanks, I won’t waste my time
From 0:27 to 0:30 there's a cut. Video uploader is a liar. He pretended to load the game with the settings he show, but he just did a cut and he's actually playing not on hardest difficulty. Shame on you
I think you are right.
I thought it seemed odd because they level up way faster when I played on hardest difficultly.
What is going on here? 15 minutes into any game playing Regicide on Moderate, and the AI always has an entire army; you're playing on Hardest and the AI only has a handful of troops.
Exactly
Why don't you speak and explain what you're doing and why you're doing it.
We are in 2016 and this doesn't work with the new AI. I just played a game where I turned Castle Age at 16:30 and at this time the computer in Hard Level (not hardest!!) was already attacking my farms with 8-12 archers. Even though, I destroyed their Archery Range, Barracks and Town Center and maybe killed 15 villagers, but he managed to build another Barracks, Stable and Siege Workshop to take my units and constructions down (he got a real quick Castle Age too). The new AI starts with more resources and more Line of Sight (some people say they start with revealed map but I'm not sure about this). So, easiest way to beat him is to build 3 layers walls (easier in Black Forest) and protect it with Sieges until you boom so strong to take him down. Even cheating resources, the AI doesn't know how to take your walls down and destroy your base. He just take all his army (knights, infantary, etc) to attack your wall while you destroy them with Sieges). Anyway, some mistakes I've seen in this game: 1. Mill, Lumber Camp and other stuffs a little bit far from the resources (1 tiles is enough, 2 or more is bad). Bad army micro (ex: 1 skirmisher died against 1 man at arms while 4 other skirmishers were just following them without range to attack). 2 or 3 times I noticed the TC was idle. Anyway, it's a good video for beginners but it doesn't work anymore and there are some minors mistakes that a pro wouldn't make.
this is not the old ai, this is the same ai as now
Hardest ai. Ive beaten it a few times.. Very very hard.. It is extremely fast.. But its very predictable... Its strategy is basically.. Build military units constantly. If u do this u will get in a tie with him for 3 hours and maybe win.
That was such an aggressive play. wow
Build order was fuckall and the way he placed his buildings so friggin' far away from the resources simply triggered me everytime. Don't waste your time on this...there are better AoE2 casters doing a fab job
I miss his game so much! I think my mother game away all my old videos games without asking after the house computer died. Do the still sell these maybe I will buy it it after the pandemic, maybe some of the total war games too. However my current PC is for writing my children boos not for gaming.
and at 16:20, they will never let me build a tower like that :(
Because this isn't hardest mode, it's easy or moderate. Hardest will also not give up this easily or allow any of these aggresive plays to go unanswered.
its not on hard
+Vardan Ananyan It looks to be on standard to me too.
Are we being lied to?
+Vardan Ananyan see it's on hardest
I read your strat, great work and thanks for this great video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lol this wasn't hardest mode, this was moderate at best. Opponents at hardest mode don't give up this quickly, they relocate and build another base, and another, and another until all their villagers and town halls are gone.
Nice strategy. Is there a reason you chose for a skirmisher rush instead of an archer rush?
expecting archers probably
Every hardest ai easy on island map once they stuck with villager boom on feudal go quickly rise to castle and then train some galleon to control water area. I like forgotten empire ai they aren't allowed to use cheat resources
It's not hardest , it's easiest level,
In hardest level before you came to fedual level you Will be Wipeout by computers
the ai in forgotten empires cheats.
That 29:30 castle time on hardest. Damn. I will try this early aggresion strat. Great vid!
Thanks :)
Sorry but... U arent playing on Hardest mode
Who has this kind of game here. I miss it so bad.
Id tower the Mill and gold. Let him have stone and wood cause you dont get anywhere on that. focus on strangling food and gold first hand. Which forces him to get some kind of ranged unit, then i roll knights and rams that i build in his face (near his base) then mass attack once i have an army, towers take his attention meanwhile
How does he que up 5 archers to be made with one button press?
It seems like the current hard AI in regular AOE II HD edition is harder than this AI in the forgotten though. They age must faster now and boom very well.
Also how do you build buildings so quickly, just using the hotkeys? placing one after the other instantly.
No idea how different it was back during that time, but with the current African Kingdom expansion this strategy doesn't work anymore. Costs have changed, as have dozens of technologies. The AI pulls out way more units as soon it reaches the Feudal Age. (Even on Hard and Medium difficulties.)
Awesome video and helpful to me even though it is over two years later. I just picked up AoE HD. I use to play this like crazy. The only thing I would recommend would be to research murder holes. It would have helped the towers. But obviously you didn't need it.
when the AI tryhards
Guys it doesn't count. The computer player resigned by mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He even said so...
i don't understand why when computer up to another age then make more points than you...
Finally playing without talking. Thank you.
I can't stand lets plays.
He let his scout keeps on patrolling around enemy base. Great idea.
is not on the hardest, I don't even think it's on Hard
Using your sheep to explore?? That's a new one for me.
How do you install the barbarian ai on age of empires II HD?
Wow! Kudos, my friend! You made this look easy.
thanks for the vid, was pretty helpful
Why do you let lumberjacks walk such a long way?
Exercise.
HAHAH
it is not the hardest for sure
hmm feudal rush looks like good againts hardest AI now I get it
+Kaan TT just understood this myself not a long time ago. If he does archers, you do skirms, if he does a krush - go archers (to harrass him) and pikes (to kill knights). A krush from AI is easier to hold against, but if you let him mass his archers - God have mercy :D
awesome
Does anyone know about the difference between IA and original IA?
+Pablo Vargas The original AI is the base one the had in original AoE ||, the new AI is a AI they remodelled for the release of AoE || HD, because the old AI was to easy to beat.
Old AI, if u want, u can play 2-3 hardest, just defend yourself till they are out of resources, or something, and they have no strat to defend when you attack their base. So it's boring late.
New AI got a new way of thinking, which make it harder to predict, at least for an old AoE player. But lots are the same, they are just smarter and faster, more strats up their hands.
Good that they did this.!!
Thank you for.the time dude
What’s ai ??
anyone knows what type of map is this? (ps i know he did choose random)
Carrion black forest
+Carrion Rivers, you can see when he clicks on the game settings while in game.
Was introduced to this back in 02 always wondered if this was possible on hardest level
So now you're doing game play?
Nah, this is just to prove that a strat I wrote on my website actually works. Gonna go back to music soon enough :)
Cool. Well I hope to hear some new stuff soon :)
how do you set paths for your scout to run? I know it's shift + left click but whenever i do it he just doesn't do anytyhing
after you set paths (the flags), right click anywhere in the map to make him move then he'll automatically follow the flags you've pinpointed.
I was playing Moderate, and within a minute, (two, tops) all my opponents had reached Feudal Age, another minute or two and one of them was on Castle Age and after that he began sending in 5-10 Uniques every minute or so... Bug or what the fuck? Needless to say I rather lost my appetite. It is impossible to gather resources for the forces, let alone build such forces so quickly. I don't care how many villagers you got. Fuck this game. That said, brilliantly played! -Sang