Remember to use lowpass filter on the envelope filter! Bandpass filter sucks all the low end. And Thundercat uses the Moog Lowpass MF-101, not the pigtronix!
I have the MXR envelope seem to have not as clean note definition on the roots of the chords. Still sounds close but I have to dig on the E and A string as opposed to lightly plucking the D and G. Any tips ?
@@nunezgabriel98 Well MXR envelope has a bandpass filter, not a lowpass. This means that it cuts some of the lows during the envelope cycle. You could get more clarity by adding some more of the dry signal by adjusting the "dry" and "fx" knobs. Also try using a compressor with strong settings before the envelope so it will be more consistent across different strings.
Wow, Thundercat is a freaking genius, his lines are ridiculously creative and original. And he does it while singing!! Oh, and his bass is freaking awesome! I would love to have one, but they are way too spendy for me. Ibanez BTB 6 string is as close as I'll get
@@lolololollo5377 I really wish they would do an Indonesian Artcore series one. It's the same way I feel about Fender's Jaco model fretless Jazz. Having built a Jazz bass, there was no way I was going to pay that much.... then Squier cane out with the Vintage Modifies fretless Jazz- it's essentially the same bass without the Jaco name. And I got mine used for $250.
So after listening to the original track again and then the isolated parts you showed, I am pretty sure it is in essence two parts, but there are three passes: the main chord part in the center, and then two passes of the lower Moog-y octave part panned to the right and left, playing the same part but with different fills and accents. Such a remarkable track. One of my favorites of the ‘10s. Great breakdown and fantastic playing!
The thing about "dropping the sus" in the Ebsus, that happens in both the original and live, but in particular _after the middle section_ as a short of change in character, like in the beginning you're stuck on the sus more and towards the end you're feeling more "movement" by letting the dominant chord do its thing
Crazily, I've learned so much about the 5 and 6 string bass over the last couple of weeks. Before I didn't even know you could get such a melodious higher tone sound out of a bass all together. I love Thundercat and didn't appreciate the 2 blended bass lines until this video. Many thanks. I'm definitely a subscriber to your channel now. I'm learning so much. Next step get a bass and start learning......
it is so great to see how collaborative and friendly they work together, how they inspire each other, the eye contact, the space they leave for each other, and the fun and even the mistakes they leave in the videos ( remember: living beeings ! ) its heartwarming, inspiring, and they are rolemodels. ( pardon my engl. ) Yours NB / vienna
This song is THE reason I own a 5-string bass instead of 4 as a guitar player. Though as it turns out, having 5 strings makes those chords _possible_ but not quite _convenient_ lol (you're up above the 12th fret on the low B, a little rough)
I hear three basses, the envelope filter to the left with the octaves, the clean chordal bass towards the middle, and another low envelope filter bass to the right that is just playing root notes.
Speaking of sampling the Isley Brothers, the Hypnotize (Biggie track) bassline has always been one of my favs. Lost My Treble Long Ago by Vulfpeck is another funky fav.
Thundercats makes such delicious Bass lines. Some other sweet Bass lines he did were on Kimbras album too!! Also Ian always whips out the coolest basses❤❤❤❤
Brilliant! Not only do you do a good demo but also show how it on 4 strings for us string challenged folk. Then you provide a pdf and tips on the effects! Quality product- you set a good example. If it wasn't being a member of SBL already I would feel guilty for not paying for this. It's given me many ideas. As for suggestions: Stanley Clarke's School Days and others from the "I Wanna Play for You" album. You two could do a good duet with "Jamaican Boy".
PRINCE - ALPHABET STREET! Please please do a deep dive into this. One of the FUNKIEST slap bass lines there is, played by the man himself :) PS GREAT VID. That fill by thunder cat in the live version is sick.
Please do a video, lesson, tutorial, on fusion bass. Would love to learn but have no idea how to go about it. Lots of people talk about it, but very few are clear, or have no idea themselves. Thanks guys. You’re the best.
Thanx for all the work . The break downs ,tabs and just being nice cool people. Ohh by the way . I learned that's my passport photo on bass.. so f ING awesome. Now thats a bass line aswell
I think it really is 3 bass tracks, clean down the middle and 2 enveloped left and right, the left bass is playing the more complex part while the right is playing very basic on the beat.
When I hear F711 my instinct is that the third would be in the chord. F7SUS I wouldn't assume there is a 3rd especially since its not resolving up a 4th (Shouldn't contain a leading tone).
You guys have to do a episode for "Standing next to you - Jungkook". The bass line is amazing, it is a funky and pop bass line with slap and all good things bass can propose. Love you guys and thanks for all the lessons. Even here in brazil i learn so much with the channel.
actually...when you watch thundercat live u can see that there are several renditions of this track. actually...live it just might be thundercat + synth functioning as bass. Ive seen him live twice and thundercat is so jazz he will switch up things just how he feels. not sure bout the album version tho. probably you guys got it right with the two basses :=)
That was superb guys.. thankyou! So you asked for suggestions… the bass on Coolio’s Gangsters Paradise has always been one of my favorites. Kinda vibe of those Madonna tracks with your man Guy.. also Future Love Paradise by Seal… that line is mental! I could go on… anyways Coolio Gangster Paradise 🙏
That's awesome. Thunder Cat- never heard before, thanks for showing us that! He's an exemplary bassist for sure. Can you do a song by the band Crypta? Maybe "the other side of anger"? Certainly a different style than what I've heard on your channel so far, but I'll bet the bass is fun to hear in isolation. Gives the listener a feeling of getting hit with a truckload of wet cement. Thanks again!
2:41 Right after "we thought it could have been three" it sounds like there's a fill on the left track that the right isn't following. Sounds to me like there's 2 filtered tracks panned left and right with the centre playing the chords.
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When Ian and Scott do the Fusion Dance, they turn into Thundercat.
the ultimate warrior
With the dragon ball durag
Ian and Scott fused would just look like Dane dehaan
Nah, they will turn into Scott Ian from anthrax
The jazz fusion dance
Bro, the mixer of this guys is a god...I can hear absolutely every single note, damn
Sounds incredible 🤘🏼🔥
Unbelievable! Scott actually dropped the glove on this left hand for this video - does this song have hidden healing powers?😂
He wore through the fingers at least one of his gloves. Or maybe their in the wash cause of all this Funk😉
Remember to use lowpass filter on the envelope filter! Bandpass filter sucks all the low end. And Thundercat uses the Moog Lowpass MF-101, not the pigtronix!
synths with ringmod and a preamp could probably do it too with some accuracy, I've been thinking about trying on my 2600 clone
I have the MXR envelope seem to have not as clean note definition on the roots of the chords. Still sounds close but I have to dig on the E and A string as opposed to lightly plucking the D and G. Any tips ?
@@nunezgabriel98 Well MXR envelope has a bandpass filter, not a lowpass. This means that it cuts some of the lows during the envelope cycle. You could get more clarity by adding some more of the dry signal by adjusting the "dry" and "fx" knobs. Also try using a compressor with strong settings before the envelope so it will be more consistent across different strings.
@@Jaa_kko thanks dude ! The insight is appreciated
Thanks for all the examples guys
Timeless tune and very funky.
This song changed my mind on so many levels
I can finally play one of my favorite bass lines on a 4 string, you guys are the best!
This is exactly why I love Thundercat. I love over dubbing basslines in my solo work.
Wow, Thundercat is a freaking genius, his lines are ridiculously creative and original. And he does it while singing!!
Oh, and his bass is freaking awesome! I would love to have one, but they are way too spendy for me. Ibanez BTB 6 string is as close as I'll get
True!! I was all hyped one Christmas to get me one those things and cried when I saw that $10k tag, WITHOUT his custom ad-ons even....
@@lolololollo5377 I really wish they would do an Indonesian Artcore series one. It's the same way I feel about Fender's Jaco model fretless Jazz. Having built a Jazz bass, there was no way I was going to pay that much.... then Squier cane out with the Vintage Modifies fretless Jazz- it's essentially the same bass without the Jaco name. And I got mine used for $250.
So after listening to the original track again and then the isolated parts you showed, I am pretty sure it is in essence two parts, but there are three passes: the main chord part in the center, and then two passes of the lower Moog-y octave part panned to the right and left, playing the same part but with different fills and accents.
Such a remarkable track. One of my favorites of the ‘10s. Great breakdown and fantastic playing!
The thing about "dropping the sus" in the Ebsus, that happens in both the original and live, but in particular _after the middle section_ as a short of change in character, like in the beginning you're stuck on the sus more and towards the end you're feeling more "movement" by letting the dominant chord do its thing
That is so cool, I can't get over how well-made this song is
Crazily, I've learned so much about the 5 and 6 string bass over the last couple of weeks. Before I didn't even know you could get such a melodious higher tone sound out of a bass all together. I love Thundercat and didn't appreciate the 2 blended bass lines until this video. Many thanks. I'm definitely a subscriber to your channel now. I'm learning so much. Next step get a bass and start learning......
🧡🧡🧡
I love these scott and Ian collabs. So fun!!!
it's the best!
it is so great to see how collaborative and friendly they work together, how they inspire each other, the eye contact, the space they leave for each other, and the fun and even the mistakes they leave in the videos ( remember: living beeings ! ) its heartwarming, inspiring, and they are rolemodels. ( pardon my engl. ) Yours NB / vienna
Awesome, when they play it live Dennis Hamm always plays those low notes on keyboard while Thundercat plays the arpeggios/chords
What a song man . I 1st heard it 2 years ago ,and it majorly turned me around ,Just wow !
Killer right?! 🙌🏻
This song is THE reason I own a 5-string bass instead of 4 as a guitar player. Though as it turns out, having 5 strings makes those chords _possible_ but not quite _convenient_ lol (you're up above the 12th fret on the low B, a little rough)
I hear three basses, the envelope filter to the left with the octaves, the clean chordal bass towards the middle, and another low envelope filter bass to the right that is just playing root notes.
yeah surprised they didn’t notice the left and right channels are different
Was thundercat born with a bass in his hand!!! He needs a documentary and I wanna watch….his speed is incredible
He's not human...lol!
Speaking of sampling the Isley Brothers, the Hypnotize (Biggie track) bassline has always been one of my favs. Lost My Treble Long Ago by Vulfpeck is another funky fav.
Definitely has a Chaka Khan vibe! You guys are great! Love how you are figuring out the chords on the fly...
Love this so much guys. Love your knowledge and enthusiasm!!
Big up Simon! Thanks for checking out the video!
This is a phenomenal lesson. You covered every aspect of the line, how to do it live, and even the effects! Fantastic!
If you have never had the pleasure of seeing this man and his trio live, PLEASE treat yourself and do so on this tour of his. Thyer are HOT
Great video. Happy to be a SBL subscriber!
2:34 It is 3. You can hear the low bass part is 2 lines panned left and right with the chords down the middle
0:36 it actually first dropped in 2015 on his EP ‘The Beyond/Where the Giants Roam’
One of my favorite songs
Great stuff, been following for 10 years and I feel that this channel can go anywhere at this point.
Some great bass faces in this
I love this song!
Now I realize where thunder and cat come from what a stonking groove. Inspired vid lads and great fun. I am off to the woodshed....
Love it, thanks fellas. Man that Wal sounded good in Ian’s hands!
I first recog this as an Earthbound chiptune cover, and was greatly happily confused to see the actualization of its bassity
is it really? I love that game, and now that you mention it, It does seem nostalgic for some reason now
Version I heard is posted by MixandMash, happy ventures saving the world!
Thank you so much for this video!❤ I always wondered how to play this great song, and you explained it so well, thanks again😊
Thundercats makes such delicious Bass lines. Some other sweet Bass lines he did were on Kimbras album too!! Also Ian always whips out the coolest basses❤❤❤❤
Oh man! Finally the 6 String VF 6 I sold Scott is now in a video!
I'm a terrible musician but amazing on the turntables. Wish there was a channel like this for good, technical DJs.
As soon as Cris Rock opened his Netflix special with that song I’ve been in love with that bass work.
Both of your shoe game on point 🤘🏻
At first when you both started to colab, i didnt liked your duo. Now i love it! Nice job ❤
Gotta love bass face. That jam will do it every time. Cheers fellas!
Saw him play live this year, was so sick!
That "Good Lord" had me cracking up 😂
Professional Bassists making chords on bass: *heaven noises*
Me Chording the Bass: *mUD*
It is 3 tracks though. The clean chord one, and the filtered one is played freely on the left channel and doubled with mostly just roots on the right.
Blues Brothers - She Caught the Katy. Relentless but still with a touch of finesse. 👌🏻
You guys did it! I'd love you to breakdown Sam Wilkes playing on Knower's "im the president" , super funky
Brilliant! Not only do you do a good demo but also show how it on 4 strings for us string challenged folk. Then you provide a pdf and tips on the effects! Quality product- you set a good example. If it wasn't being a member of SBL already I would feel guilty for not paying for this. It's given me many ideas. As for suggestions: Stanley Clarke's School Days and others from the "I Wanna Play for You" album. You two could do a good duet with "Jamaican Boy".
PRINCE - ALPHABET STREET! Please please do a deep dive into this. One of the FUNKIEST slap bass lines there is, played by the man himself :)
PS GREAT VID. That fill by thunder cat in the live version is sick.
I remember the feeling I felt when I first heard this.
Really fun to learn those chords. The 4 string version is a lot of familiar shapes for me so not too bad to play.
Awesome dude, thanks for checking out the video!
Thanks guys, this is a beautiful mares😎
We got some serious stank / bass face going on here, love it
Y'all sum BAD BOYEEEEZZ!👊🏿🔥🔥🔥🔥😵💫
Awesome lesson, thank you!
Cheers!!
im actually surprised I managed to come up with the exact same 4 string version of the riff, you guys showed in the end :)
Please do a video, lesson, tutorial, on fusion bass. Would love to learn but have no idea how to go about it. Lots of people talk about it, but very few are clear, or have no idea themselves. Thanks guys. You’re the best.
Thanx for all the work . The break downs ,tabs and just being nice cool people. Ohh by the way . I learned that's my passport photo on bass.. so f ING awesome. Now thats a bass line aswell
🙌🏻🧡🔥
Love you guys!!!!!! OWESOME!!!!!!!
As soon as you played the 4 string chords, I immediately heard Tom Misch "Festival" ❤❤❤
You guys are like Superman & Batman,,,great apart UNBEATABLE TOGETHER 🎸🤠
Thank you for this!
I think it really is 3 bass tracks, clean down the middle and 2 enveloped left and right, the left bass is playing the more complex part while the right is playing very basic on the beat.
I love this bassline 🥰
Who do I love ? I love youuuuuuuuuu 😂 thanks guys
6:43 my favourite chord, the F family mart
I was expecting the baseline from Mac Miller - What’s the Use - That’s Thunder Cat best and quite possibly one of the best baseline ever lol 🙌🏾🔥
love them classic checker board vans!!
Ive seen it live (on RUclips) where he had a tuba and another bass player backing him up.
Thundercat’s a fkn MUTANT on the bass
thundercat is why I bought a bass all those years ago... a 6 string too :') makes me so sad thinking about it
i want more razzing on Jim.. big up Jim as always loved the video
as a bass player, im so jealous of this interaction.
Please cover Clay Gober's bass line from The Omnific's Antecedent. Such a great line!
Thanks for the recommendation dude! We'll check it out! 🙌🏻🧡🔥
It’s three basses. Octaves/fills in left, roots in right and clean chords in center. Pretty clear with headphones.
We still need some kinda video on this channel talking about the influence of Geezer Butler
You're absolutely right, needs to happen!
Lots of Bossa Nova vibez on that tune!
💯💯💯
When I hear F711 my instinct is that the third would be in the chord. F7SUS I wouldn't assume there is a 3rd especially since its not resolving up a 4th (Shouldn't contain a leading tone).
You guys have to do a episode for "Standing next to you - Jungkook". The bass line is amazing, it is a funky and pop bass line with slap and all good things bass can propose.
Love you guys and thanks for all the lessons. Even here in brazil i learn so much with the channel.
actually...when you watch thundercat live u can see that there are several renditions of this track. actually...live it just might be thundercat + synth functioning as bass. Ive seen him live twice and thundercat is so jazz he will switch up things just how he feels. not sure bout the album version tho. probably you guys got it right with the two basses :=)
talking about NICO ASSUNÇÃO AND CARLES BENAVENT. Great pick bassist ! thanks SBLTEAM
Love seeing Ian's montana hat!! If you're ever in bozeman you gotta come to Music Villa! (also give me a heads up, i'd love to meet you guys! 😁)
Long before the Ibanez hollowbody, he used to hire another bassist to play with what would become his trio.
FBass baby! Canadian luthier masterpieces!
That was superb guys.. thankyou! So you asked for suggestions… the bass on Coolio’s Gangsters Paradise has always been one of my favorites. Kinda vibe of those Madonna tracks with your man Guy.. also Future Love Paradise by Seal… that line is mental! I could go on… anyways Coolio Gangster Paradise 🙏
That's awesome. Thunder Cat- never heard before, thanks for showing us that! He's an exemplary bassist for sure.
Can you do a song by the band Crypta? Maybe "the other side of anger"? Certainly a different style than what I've heard on your channel so far, but I'll bet the bass is fun to hear in isolation. Gives the listener a feeling of getting hit with a truckload of wet cement.
Thanks again!
2:41 Right after "we thought it could have been three" it sounds like there's a fill on the left track that the right isn't following. Sounds to me like there's 2 filtered tracks panned left and right with the centre playing the chords.
An awesome track to do would be 'Too Shy' by Kajagoogoo. Even ask Nick Beggs to come in and do it!!!
You two need to do some live shows together.
That was tiny desk series,I recognize that set
Coming in two beats early on the Footsteps in there Dark groove in the intro is killing my drummer soul 😂
I don't have a six-string but I'm gonna see if I can get this sound with a guitar thru the bass setting on a modeler! Fun!
Awesome Amanda, Enjoy!
One of the nicest ways to mess around with an envelope filter.
Thanx
Love the bass
You guys need to do on incubus - especially the science album. Dirk Lance is a beast
Ok, the Tiny Desk show everyone looked severely hung over.
you could see/hear it better live. The keyboard is usually playing it. Domi playing it is amazing.
Uzeb Club by UZEB!!! 🤙🎸 it's so nice and funky
Muito bom
So sick! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Some Ghost-note/Mononeon would be cool 😎