Growing minority of religious conservatives reshape US Catholic Church
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- Generations of U.S. Catholics are giving way to religious conservatives who believe the church has been twisted by change. It has reshaped parishes and universities across the country, leaving them sometimes at odds with much of the Catholic world. (AP Video/ Jessie Wardarski). Read more: bit.ly/3UHfFab
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Breaking: Practicing Catholics believe the Faith
Its a scandal to the guitar mass boomers
Lol
It must be quite a shock to the folks at the AP. Somebody actually believes in something other than modernism? Inconceivable!
@@Wolffur I also was sad to discover that there are radical traditionalist movements that are actually a cover for the Satanic church especially in Florida.
@@Wolffur Sadly, the latin mass is also used to cover up things that aren't catholic.
I just find it odd calling it "conservative" Catholics, or when the priest says "to the right"... This is just Catholicism 🤷♂️ anything else is just refusing the teachings of the Church, not Catholic
Faithful to the Tradition.
Alternatively Catholics can be progressive to modern changes.
It's the people wearing veils again and insisting on Latin mass.
Exactly. When it comes to social issues of the last 60 years, Catholicism(and Christianity in general) is inherently conservative
This is true, but I think that the issue is that the person who made this video doesn’t know anything about Catholicism. They are sort of conflating the movement that is more fond of latin, veiling, and things that go with that specific era in the western church’s tradition, with orthodox catholicism that upholds the doctrines promulgated by the church.
Those two things may even tend to go together, but the director probably doesnt understand the distinction.
The word choice is weird regardless. Especially when they say “reshape” the Catholic church in the title and then talk about contraception haha.
Ah! I think i get it. They arent talking about “reshaping” the catholic church in terms of its doctrine, they actually are talking about the population of those who call themselves catholic actually believing the moral teachings of the church and living by them. Ok yeah thats just catholic.
Boomers ruined Catholicism, it is the next generations duty to return it to its Glory, Ave Maria ✝️
I think I would say certain individuals ruined Vatican 2.
@@redknightsr69But boomers stuck with the Church abuses of the following decades.
Pope and clergy ruined so many things in the Church by even participating in VII. Boomers and the older nuns took it and ran with it as they started all the crazy stuff. I grew up during the 70’s and 80’s in the Catholic faith so I was right in the thick of it. Thankfully I came out of it and deprogrammed myself. Started attending the TLM in 2022 and have never looked back
@@cordasuenaviolin604not really. We’re seeing all the abusers that today’s conservative generations are allowing in the church’s the majority of abusers are now coming from today’s conservative generation. We see you.
Bro you can’t blame an entire generation of people whose poor understanding of the faith is no fault of their own for the things that you don’t like about the church today. No one taught them, by and large, the faith as it truly is. Therefore, they often don’t understand it. You can’t expect them to without some strenuous effort on their part and great patience on yours.
"Growing minority of religious conservatives reshape US Catholic Church" Glory to Jesus Christ! It's about time...
🙌🏾🙌🏾
A little yeast makes the dough rise, doncha know?…
Will you be saying that when Catholic integralism re-emerges and they try turning the US into a Catholi monarchy? And they will through birthrates alone if given enough time. America would probably be on the verge of becoming a Catholic theocracy right now if it wasn't for the catastrophic disaster of Vatican II. And I'm not exaggerating when I I that.
@@Sedgewise47Yes, they are quite barmy, thank you
Amen!
I’ve been going to the Latin Mass quite regularly and hope to become Catholic soon!
Don’t reduce Catholicism to liturgical preferences.
Yay
@@michaelspeyrer1264Don't mistake Neocatholcism for Catholicism the Church does not and cannot change.
Does that mean it’s held entirely in Latin? How do you understand it then?
@@Alieth Sermons and scripture readings are in the vernacular (English) and always have been. There's also a book with the English translation of the mass.
Viva Christo Rey!
Viva!
Viva!
ARRIBA ESPAÑA!!!
Viva
Viva y viva la Hispanidad, puntero de la cristiandad, y vivan los mártires de la Cristiada y la Guerra Civil
I love Catholic Tradition and converted last year from 🇩🇪Lutheranism being 24 yo.
Christ is king!❤
Associated Press, also known as Hearst News, they don’t call it hearse for nothing. Where you only get half the news.
It is not called TLM.
It “was” called the Traditional Latin Mass(notice “I” said past tense). WE(those who belong to Christ) “ARE” Living in Rev. 21:3 ~ Douay Rheims Bible.
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@@JoellHedges-dm1mu 😁
@@JoellHedges-dm1mu TY
"US Catholics rediscover the faith". Fixed.
Maybe it's a life stage passage to question everything, and then return at some future time with maturity?
@@lucillejerome5511boomers never did
Except everything they're doing is in opposition to the church and it's authority laid down in its most recent council.
@@BlandBanana No yet, maybe!
@@Andrei-sg7lu how? Groups like the FSSP or ICKSP are in full communion with the Church and can continue celebrating the traditional Latin Mass with Pope Francis's blessing. How is that in opposition? You may be thinking a different group.
Crazy how to be counter culture in 2024 is to be a Devout Religious person.
The last true rebellion is Jesus Christ😊 it’s funny that I’ve been thinking this too. The people most scared to “come out” nowadays is the religious. The world truly is upside down. Remember that saint who said “there will come a time when men will go mad, and will see a sane person and say, You are mad because you are not like us.” That time is now
Haha, exactly what I was thinking lol
Always has been, i would add "christian" to your statement.
S*xual Revolution and its consequences...
I love being counter culture. True rebel! I even had the word CATHOLIC printed on my sweater. And it’s to demons what garlic is to vampires.
Respect to my Catholic brothers and sister from an Orthodox follower.
Thank you.
Much respect to you and the patriarchs of orthodoxy as well
Peace of Christ to you from a Latin rite catholic.
This! As an Orthodox Christian, it's inspiring seeing Catholics actually Catholicing correctly. Love you guy, stay loyal to Christ ☦✝️
May we find unity someday
Amen
We are entering some dark times. We need each other
I love being Catholic! All glory, praise, and honor to Christ the King!
Now and forever!
bc you are damning your own soul to a lake of fire FOREVER
Amen brother/sister!
If you're skeptical about this, even if you're not Catholic, go to your local Latin Mass if you can find one. You will find that they are PACKED with people and the average age will be around 30
If Catholicism is refutable to how mass is done, all own really is, is a high liturgy loving Protestant.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 the Mass that was celebrated for a thousand years and created thousands of saints is protestant? You seem to hate TLM attendees based on internet stereotypes. Maybe go to a few and actually talk to the people
@@michaelspeyrer1264Jesus started Catholic church
This is the future of the Church, yes
@@michaelspeyrer1264We don't want your protestant inspired services anymore.
Thank you AP for posting this, as young Catholic it’s super encouraging seeing others return to orthodoxy and be so grounded in their faith to such a strong degree. Excited to see our generation come of age in the church.
there is more to it than orthodoxy and that's why many of these people do not understand religion
Those who are flocking to Catholicism/Orthodox are the most indoctrinated. They've probably seen their church shrink in size, now they're retreating to the most fanatical in order to find a larger community. I feel sad for them.
Amén
This is truly beautiful. I hope to go to a SEEK conference too
Stop believing in magic
Just so everyone knows, this is really a hit piece by AP to put Catholicism in a negative light. Little do they know they are evangelizing for us.
That's the best part 🤣
Yep, they are hoping to add to the current “Christian far right bad” search engine soup.
I didn’t interpret it that way. It seemed pretty neutral.
See the text on the screen at 4:04 “the conservative movement has been angered by the popes more liberal views and reject him entirely” sedes this is what you’re creating. It should be “conservatives see the pope and Vatican 2 as falling away from the True teachings of the church and hope to remind the Church if it’s heritage through their actions praying daily for the renewal of the faith
@@mbd501 I would suggest reading the article they just published too. The terminology is all liberal buzzwords and they'll say things like traditional Catholic families are larger due to the "ban on contraception"". That's misleading and false. AP believes these video and article releases as trojan horses for their liberal agenda to turn people away, but the more they do this it actually becomes a trojan horse for the traditional Catholic movement.
I never got to experience pre Vatican 2 liturgy. Experiencing the Traditional Latin Mass was revolutionary for my faith.
I think I speak for a lot of young Catholics when I say that discovering the TLM brought me back to the Church
It’s the same faith, if people reduce Catholicism to how mass is done they don’t really understand Catholicism,
If your faith is reducible to how mass is done, you don’t have much faith to speak of.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 That's like saying being a Dominican or a Nun is useless and means you never had much faith to speak of. The faith we hold is not only spiritual but physical as well. The sounds, the smells, the experience of mass itself is essential to the expansion and deepening of our faith.
It’s not about reducing faith to a form of liturgy it’s about optimizing the liturgy to most closely resemble the full grandeur and mystery of the Faith and to get the right prudential judgements correct in the selections and emphasis of the parts of the liturgy. They should concentrate the theology not dim it. It all centers around Jesus’ Hour. Is the Mass a sacrifice or a celebration? What are we to do in memory of Him as He asked us to.
We joined the Church on the Feast of the Assumption last year and attend the TLM. Deo gratias.
It seems like all the new converts are going to the TLM.
@@grannygoes7882 Can confirm. I converted in 2021 and not long after found the TLM and have been going there ever since. The two other converts who were baptised alongside me also go to TLM with me as well. And many of the new converts this past Easter (all in their 20's) also come to the TLM from time to time. It's almost like young people want tradition back and not boomer guitar masses with cringy protestant folk songs...
"Tradition is the passing on of the fire, not the worship of the ashes"
-Gustav Mahler
Love that quote
I believe poor cathecism and lukewarm Catholics has led to the state we're in right now. When Christ is not the centre of the family, what is there to hold us together? I pray that one day we will all be united in Christ.
Amen. Ave Cristo Rey!
Pretty true, but the Catholics trying to overcome these problems are wonderful.
I have a grandson who is a Catholic peer leader for the youth and watched all 30 hours of Fulton Sheen's videos. Plus 3 of my 4 kid and their families are now strong Catholics, with one former Protestant now nicknamed The Renegade Catholic!
Watch out for the traditional Catholics in the future!
Totally agree Celia. Catholicism is a daily practice of faith, not just on Sundays.
Logic, reasoning, tradition, many families are held together without Christ. Evangelicals have highest divorce rate was Christ not enough for those families? Silly
@@devilfork1 your moniker says it all. You're a devil worshipper.
The comments are definitely not what AP was expecting! 😂
Vivo Cristo Rey!
Traditional Catholicism is not "right wing." It cannot be described in political terms. It is simply the Catholicism of the ages, not coincidentally in which most of the Church's saints were formed.
Traditional Catholicism is Christocentric. Society and the poorly catechized don’t understand this and need to think in terms of right & left politics.
@@mdiblueraym.150 if one is to learn true catholicism politically, we must reject all that came after the french revolution. the will of the angry and disobedient masses. Joseph de Maistre is one to look in to.
The church isn't the same as it was 100 years and not the same as it was 500 or 1000 years ago. You Catholics just delude yourselves into thinking that.
You are correct!
I was in the second grade when Vatican II was implemented and I experienced the profound change in the Church. It was a very confusing time. Eventually I drifted away from going to mass and I was lukewarm at best. Twelve years ago I returned to the Church because of my children and grandchildren. I rediscovered the Latin Mass and I realized how much I missed it. I'm now a Traditional Latin Catholic, I'm striving to live in a State of Grace. Best of all my family also followed me and we all attend the Traditional mass together.
The thing this, Catholicism’s isn’t reducible to the Mass, it’s one’s relationship to Jesus Christ, if you drifted away from the Church which never changed its teaching, because of how mass was done, and only came back because of how Mass somewhere is done, than you still don’t get it. And at this rate ever will.
This his what I call lazy Catholicism that has never grown beyond an infantile level of understanding of itself.
Better Pray Francis doesn’t ban your TLM lol.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 What is lazy and ignorant is thinking that dissociating the liturgical practice from doctrine (which yes, didn't change) won't negatively impact the spiritual life of the faithful. It is demonstrated by objective and empirical data that it did, so there's no question about that. What is even worse and an insane injustice is for you to blame those who suffered the consequences of things they had no control over for responding accordingly. It's victim-blaming and gaslighting, taking the side of the powerful against the weak, and it's disgusting and uncharitable behavior. Stop attacking Catholics. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@earthangel3234 Please share what you remember of that transition period for posterity. How was the Novus Ordo presented and how was it rolled out? Share any detail for what the faithful spoke of the time in reaction to it. How was it sold or not sold, marketed or just done and started up all of a sudden out of left field or was it a gradual transition. Please share.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 wow, what an uncharitable thing to say. Don't rashly judge your brothers and sisters in Christ.
When you normalise every form of crisis and criticism, order and Tradition become revolutionary. This is so lovely and brings me back to happy memories of my grandfather taking me to the Chapel in this college for Eucharistic Adoration. Such a happy and joyous phenomenon, Christ is King.
Well said!
I was just baptized into the Church over Easter. This is great to see.
I was as well! Welcome home!
Congratulations!! Welcome to the faith!
@@lt.random210 Thank you!
My wife of 42 years and I consider ourselves faithful Roman Catholics. Our three kids, their spouses, and and our soon-to-be 13 grandchildren are faithful and prefer the Latin Mass. Thank you, Jesus!
Christ commended us to love one another as He loved us - through service, sacrifice, and agape love. In this, we love those who are disordered - i.e., sinners - since we all fit into that boat.
Therefore, we recognize sin for what it is and do not endorse it. We pray that all souls go to Heaven, especially those most in need of Divine Mercy.
Lucky you to have such a devoted Catholic family. Would you like to adopt me? Warm greetings from Australia 🦘
@@user-gl9jd3ih8h I have a cousin. He and his wife are traditional catholics ( before it was the old new thing again?) they had 10 kids , and home schooled them , they would go to church at least 3, to 4 times a week. - Crazy thing is half of their kids end up leaving the faith.
only half left the Church? That's actually not a bad ratio in this Era. I'm sure the parents will never give up hope & Pray & Fast for their return.
@@CatholicCarnivoreHousewife If they were holiday catholics I could understand - But they were orthodox trads, I guess sometimes indoctrination just doesn't stick.
That's like my sister in-law she's was oldest of 7 sister - But guess what when she was old enough to watch them?
When she got married after a yr or so her parents were wondering when they were going to start having kids - this went on for awhile ,finally she said,
" I spent my childhood raising your kids I don't need any of my own". Boom!
@@sitka49 I recently heard, though forget the exact statistics, but it was something like when a family is Catholic & both Dad & Mom attend Mass regularly 25% of the children remain Catholic in adulthood, while if only the Mom is Catholic attending Mass regularly, it's only 5 % to of kids that remain Catholic into adulthood.
Now that doesn't take into account adult children Reversions back to the Catholic Church at some point after they abandoned the Faith... Hopefully, whatever that % is still steadily rise.
When I see young Catholics standing up for their faith, it gives me hope for our country.
These are brown people. They're not talking about whites. Your population is in decline and soon will be extinct
I am the catholic the AP warned you about
Same Deus Vult
The Catholic Church is meant to be conservative: it is meant to conserve the original teaching, the original church Jesus founded. To have a Catholic Church that "goes with the times" is unappealing to those seeking genuine connection with Christ and to me, that is not shocking or controversial at all.
“We do not really want a religion that is right where we are right. What we want is a religion that is right where we are wrong. We do not want, as the newspapers say, a church that will move with the world. We want a church that will move the world.” - G. K. Chesterton
The church always changed overtime. It was never the same
@@michaelbarry6589 the church won't move me. Cope
@@konyvnyelv. I find it fascinating that when I delve into Christian writings predating 400 AD, the teachings feel remarkably familiar to me. However, what truly resonates is the profound wisdom they offer, often presenting teachings in ways that seem somewhat lost in today's world.
@@konyvnyelv. Lol no one cares about you, loser. Get a life
As a peruvian conservative catholic woman this makes me so happy, seeing that more people are finding the truth in the church of JesusChrist. Praying for the church all over the world!
My grandmother was born in Peru, she would take me mass.
Praying for you😊🙏🌷
I was encouraged to see this article! Especially with how many mainline Protestant denominations are folding to the culture. So many young Catholics on fire for their faith!
As a protestant I'm backing you guys
@@prestonyannotti7661Why?
Methodist just condoned lgbtq preachers and marriage. A hard fold against biblical scripture.
Hard to disagree, yet we do find this tendensy in protestantism as well.
Just as we see among the catholics we find a movement towards traditional expressions of lutheran, calvinistic and anglican church away from the progressive forms in protestantism.
@@ghrtfhfgdfnfg why not suport other christian denominations?
Proud to be Catholic!
I am syric catholic from India...hello brother
Catholic strong! 💪
Hail Satan
@@konyvnyelv. better than islam
@@konyvnyelv. Wow, so edgy and cool. We Catholics are shaking in our boots right now because you praised a being that you don't even believe in Lol
I just joined the Catholic Church. Out of the blue. Just walked in . I absolutely love the church
Welcome Home. Love our Church.
Make sure you ask the Church about RCIA!
It's now OCIA
Welcome to the faith!
@@PurpleSmokeFace What does the O stand for?
In the end, we win! Christ is King!
I am a convert to the faith who loves the traditional Mass. It is not to be antagonistic to the ordinary form of the Roman Rite, but to be in a place where I can pray the Mass and not be distracted by the environment.
Im proud to born Catholic and my whole family.🙏🙏🙏
Thanks AP for giving publicity to Catholics in the US who strive to take their faith on Church teaching's terms and not on the terms of the individual adherent.
I converted to Catholicism two years ago. I love the richness of the faith. New atheism, new age, “spiritual but not religious” to Reformed/Calvinist all the way HOME.
so glad for you--Welcome Home!
So how long did it take you to embrace a religion of hate, bigotry, and child abuse?
Sounds like we had a similar journey! I even went to Calvin College. Happy we made our way home.
In some ways, this isn't really conservative or liberal - it's a growing minority realizing and embracing the Church as it really is. In case you think that if you like the Tridentine Mass, you automatically must follow the Republican party, no - this is not the case at all, in any way, shape, or form. I, for one, being for all intents and purposes one of the Catholics described here (and there could be lots, lots more), am entirely at odds with the Republican party as concerns climate change and immigration (yes, I know the climate changing for the worse, and, yes, I'm totally pro-immigrant). If possible, I would like to see the Mass for the entire church returned to about 1945, which was right before Annibale Bugnini came in and created the current mess in the Roman Rite - in fact, literally everything Bugnini did with the liturgy, and literally all of his ideas, really should be cancelled and removed. If you're still thinking that being a Trad Catholic automatically means being Republican (or politically conservative, for that matter). His Holiness Pope Leo XIII completely debunks that illusion in paragraph 8 of Pergrata: "Everyone may hold his own opinion in purely political matters and defend it honestly and legitimately, provided it is not contrary to religion or justice. Yet those, if there are any, who do not distinguish clearly between what is holy and what is merely civil, commit a pernicious error which lends the name of religion to a political party."
Conservative in the real sense of conserving Christian society, the republican party isnt even conservative a lot of the time. Its important that we maintain pressure against LGBT indoctrination/grooming and abortion regardless if it is “electable” or not
@@palchum1185 💯
Annibale Bugnini was a freemason who left his briefcase behind full of material and was turned into the Italian police. The new mass is almost singlehandedly his creation and he deceived both the bishops and the Pope.
Democrat party defends and legislates abortion; it is pert of their party platform. Human life is paramount and we are enjoined to care for the earth and all living creatures on and in it.
That is true. It's also true that there are some politicians and policy programs for which we cannot vote.
Cope and seethe, AP.
Christus Vincit.
"conservative" = actually just following the faith as written
Right!
Jesus Christ is Lord, Mary is his mother.
Traditionalists… that’s what we are.
Actually most of the’ Are really just Jancenists.
They are Catholics, most of the rest follow NeoCatholicism invented in the 1960s which is not Catholic.
And we are the future
@@urpoche Amen.
Your religion is just kept alive for few generations more. Then it will die
They aren‘t even showing the Latin Mass, only a conservative NO, guess that would be too extremist
AP doesn't know what it's talking about
Exactly, people irreverantly dressed are never a thing in TLM
Radtrads who constantly complain about the NO and Pope Francis cringe. We’re all Catholics, and the NO doesn’t violate Apostolic Tradition or the Magesterium. Preference in Liturgy does not diminish one’s love for Christ or the Church.
@@jtmartin1170 it diminished belief in the Real Presence though...
@@jtmartin1170 If one's liturgical preference does not diminish one's love for Christ or the Church, then why are you complaining about people preferring the TLM over the NO?
Trust me, we're not a minority!!
We are the future, correct
Awesome!
These hippies have tried to destroy our religion and us Catholics are taking it back. The future is traditional. Don't like it? The Anglican Church is down the hall and will be happy to have you. Deo Gratias.
Curious - does reclaiming traditional Catholic practices as you advocate require STARTING with judgement and condemnation the way your comment does, or can that be added later? I assume Jesus would have been the first to point all the hippies down the hall.
@@JackieDaytona1776 Yes it does. Truth cannot be proclaimed without error being condemned at the same time, which is the error of Vatican II.
@@JackieDaytona1776 The hippies went against Church teachings on things like birth control. It is not a judgement just a fact.
Careful with spiritual arrogance my brother
Vatican II was made up of a lot of Anglican and protestant clergy in the council. Not to mention CIA involvement. Thats the reason your church is in the position it is currently, with a heretic at the reigns.
There’s no Liberalism or Conservatism in Catholicism. Catholicism is above both and in many ways champions paths that intersect into those views from time to time but it’s a higher standard as both left and right only appeal to man, government etc.
I mean, there are traditionalists and modernists, and traditionalists are overwhelmingly political conservatives, while modernists are overwhelmingly political liberals. It's also fair to say that traditionalists are conservative with respect to praxis and doctrine, insisting that the deposit of faith is preserved exactly as it was handed down to us, while modernists are liberal in their deviations from tradition and their treatment of scripture. See for example the Latin American liberation theologians who ruined the Catholic Church's dominance in Brazil and other countries in Latin and South America. It's completely fair to describe them as liberal, or even as left-wing, because by their own admission they interpret scripture through the lens of Marxism. Conversely, there are many radical traditionalist Catholics who insist on conservative social policy, particularly on matters of sexuality, abortion, euthanasia, etc. I would count myself among them, and I wouldn't object to being called a conservative Catholic. I do think there is only one deposit of faith, and you're either faithful to the Church's teaching or you're not. But the faction of the unfaithful dissenters is big enough at this point that it's important to distinguish it from the faithful faction. So it makes sense to use these terms for these factions.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol
When you get right down to it, Catholicism is socially conservative but fiscally liberal
Like a 90s Democrat. A blue dog.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol I think those are the stereotypes we hear/see in the media. I know of two traditional Catholics who think abortion is all right (only said when with very close friends), could be outliers but still they are real people.
Nope. They're just a bunch of Trumpers that hate the poor and oppress minorities just like the Baptists.
@@Andrei-sg7lu “hate the poor and oppress minorities just like the Baptists” So, as a Baptist who is a racial minority myself, I want to know, what do you currently do on a regular basis to help out poor minorities since obviously love them so much and certainly aren’t trying to weaponize them in your rhetoric at all?
Love this 🙏🙏 it's time we go back to our traditions and ensure our faith is number 1
I am so hopeful we can get things back to Christ and the Church, what truly is the Catholic Church. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻. “Jesus, I trust in you” .
The Spirit will correct any failings of the Church over time. This is the beginning of a new springtime of genuine Catholic faith. We are not confused by the musings of so-called theologians who have lost their singlemindedness to promote clear moral guidance. This faith is a gift from the Spirit who reveals to us beauty, goodness, and truth.
I hope/pray you are right. I doubt I live long enough to see it but hopefully you are right.
As a convert from protestantism to the Holy Orthodox Church I can confirm traditionalism attracts the younger generations
Unto the ages of ages Ahem
So you're still in rebellion against Christ and His Church then? You just left one sect of Protestantism for the original Protestants. But just like you were in a false religion before, you're still in a false religion now. What makes ypu think you aren't deceived again this time?
@@lukebrasting5108 Because the Orthodox Church is the One True Church Christ Himself founded, If I didn't come to believe that after months of inquiring into Roman Catholicism I would've joined it. @OrthodoxKyle (Who's a former Trad Cath) has already done a video explaining all the post schism innovations based on forgeries and contrary to the Patristics and things Orthodox Popes back when Rome was apart of The Church and actually had bishops (unlike the social group led by that idiot Mr. Bergoglio today) taught Pope Benedict VIII who said the Filioque was a heresy or even Pope Leo III who said the Creed can't be changed (Because it was decreed by the Great Councils that the Creed can't be changed). Among many many other things that changed after Rome left The Church.
@@lukebrasting5108 no need to be disrespectful to our beloved Orthodox Church. The essential difference is only a matter of apostolic authority. They too come from the early Christians, and disrespect will only separate our Churches further.
@@lukebrasting5108 The Protestants are of a fundamentally different type than the Eastern Orthodox. While the Protestants only form “ecclesial communities”, not true Churches (since they have no Apostolic succession and cannot minister any of the sacraments other than baptism), the Eastern Orthodox Church is actually a Church proper. They are in imperfect communion, but they still have valid holy orders and sacraments, so while it is clearly a problem to be Orthodox, they are nevertheless of a different type than Protestants and cannot be called the “first Protestants”.
Viva Cristo Rey
Hail Satan
@@konyvnyelv. Why are you hailing someone you don't even believe exists?
@@SanctusPaulus1962 to troll believers
@@konyvnyelv. So you're a loser who has no life is what you're saying?
The youth are attracted to the truth and to tradition and we are not the minority. We are Catholics who actually uphold church teaching.
Nick Is the future leader. The white catholic is truly back
We drive 30 miles and through 2 counties to get to our traditional parish with adoration, benediction, eucharistic processions, marble altar rail, and Latin mass. 100% worth it. As a convert, I'm not at all interested in Catholic "lite."
What the heck? Two countries? Where’s that if you don’t mind me asking
Traditional NOT conservative. Get your sinful politics out of the church.
These faithful will help bring Christ to millions.
It's the same thing that has been drawing people to the Orthodox Church. We get a lot of former evangelicals who came to the awareness that church is a lot more than a rousing sermon and a worship band.
GenZ and Millenial Catholics will not sustain more than 50% of Novus Ordo-only parishes currently in service. But all the TLMs will live.
The closest TLM to me is 2 hrs away ( and it's always full, great!) - But right now I live in a community of roughly 120K people, Just off the top of my head there is 10 to 15 churches in town ,and that doesn't include any surrounding towns or suburbs and I guarantee each one has at least one catholic church -if they all went TLM how many people would be filling those pews? - probably not not anymore then then there are right now - and possibly some devote Novus Ordo would quit going too?
@@sitka49With the N.O. the avg. parishioner is 55 and priests 75. TLM avg. parishioner is 25-30 with priests about 40-45. There’s no sense in keeping the N.O. when it’s as old as the avg. parishioner, and been a disaster. (V2 only allowed for partial translations and OT readings on Sundays on top of the TLM, not a wholesale redo.)
I am a student at Franciscan University of Steubenville and over the past year here have definitely grown in love for the Church and tradition overall. I don't personally like the TLM but I attend a reverent NO Mass that is Ad Orientum and I love it. Embracing the true Church, it's teachings and it's practices will slowly but surely revive the faithful and the world. This video is awesome!
see you Thursday, if you go to graduation
Steubenville is a beautiful light in the western sky.
I'm from Benedictine and we have a similar thing. The NO there is so reverent, with chants and beautiful music put on by the monks. They showed some of them in the video. :)
How could you not like the TLM?! The Mass of the ages, the Mass the great saints of the church attended!
@@upstatelynchmob the Novus Ordo is actually based on Justin Martyr's Liturgy, which goes back to the mid-2nd century, this is the myth of things..
It’s quite interesting to see young people come back to established religion. I may not be Catholic, but it’s an amazing tradition. ¡Viva Cristo rey!
AP thinks it's a hit piece but it's like a trophy really.
Gloria Patri
What really bothers me is "relativism". The Bible, catechism, and tradition, never change, and the same rules apply to everyone.
This just in: 2,000 yr old religion, specifically concerned with maintaining traditional values, has slowly been attracting more people with traditional values.
Our Lady of Victory, pray for us.
Hail Satan
@@konyvnyelv.Genesis 3:15 (womp womp for Satanists)
@@micyjoejoe5820 hail Satan again
@@konyvnyelv.
_And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever._ (Revelation 20:10)
I don't know man; that's kind of an L for Satan
@@FVStageII-hg3dp cope with your false book
I’ve been reciting the Holy Rosery in Latin it’s been a beautiful blessing.
Shocking: Faithful Catholics remain Catholic!
Of course Faggioli gives these girls a back-handed compliment, insinuating that they're "backward"
Massimo Faggioli is the one who is really backwards. He would have us forget every pontificate and council before John XIII.
let's just say they don't call him Straightioli!
BEANS
MAXIMUM BEANS
@@capraagricola kek
I don't know who the AP author is, but labeling Catholics as conservative because they practice a previous way of celebrating Mass is poor journalism. It is just another effort to divide the general public against believers in Christ.
Glory to Jesus Christ.
We're gonna make it.
Much love from a Polish National Catholic, maintain the faith, pray for unity!
Deo gratias. It's truly wonderful to see youths flocking to the faith again. I'm 23 and my Latin Mass in Milwaukee barely has standing room on Sundays and I know this is common elsewhere. A surge in the importance of Eucharistic Adoration and the Rosary are blessings too.
People NEED a religion, a steady, secure, place of safety in a world that is none of those things. I attend Mass in a traditional home-church. There are three priests who live on the grounds of parishioners. The families take turns hosting Mass.
Are the homes consecrated?
Religion is what causes violence and destroys the safety of others. It teaches to view the other as something less than human
Nice to see american people rediscovering catholicism! A similar movement is happening in Brazil, catholicism was just a "cultural religion" for many years but now we are rediscovering the beauty of our religion. Not only TLM but charismatic movements too, who are defeating modernism.
we need the catholic church back in our lives to be part of communities and daily society. We need Jesus Christ in our lives the world especially the USA is falling apart.
LOL,....My parents were devout Catholics. I was raised Catholic. It was never about politics. It was never about being "conservative".
Tradition is the future!
Went to a Novus Ordo yesterday and a Latin mass this morning. It’s the difference between White Castle and a 5-star restaurant.
The Novus Ordo at my parish, and *almost* every parish that I've ever attended, is very reverent. There is no need to unnecessarily alienate people by insulting the Mass that they prefer. Comments like yours, above, are really not helping the unity of the Church, because the Church doesn't stand or fall on one kind of Mass in one language. The Church belongs to Christ, not the Latin language.
Minority? We've always been a silent majority.
No, you are a minority. Most Catholics are 'cultural Catholics'. It is an ethnic identity. They go through the motions of baptism and things like that. Most do not even believe in the Body and Blood of Christ, like 80% by the Church's own numbers. That doesn't mean you will be a minority for long. In fact, everyone who is not a card-carrying Republican has either died off or has left, typically due to the hate-filled priests who castigate them in Confession and the precondition that you must be a Republican or else. You'll actually be the majority here very soon, just in a very small Catholic Church. You'll get a lot of conspiracy theorist and repressed young males to join, they can put on robes and play crusader, but that'll be that. Everyone else will be gone.
Faithful, orthodox Catholics are winning ✝️🇻🇦🕊️
yoooooo based?
Long Live Christ the King!
3:59 “The conservative movement has been angered by the pope’s more liberal views. Some reject him entirely.”
Sounds like something straight out of the Onion News.
“Conservative Catholics” who reject Pope Francis aren’t a thing. If they reject the authority of the Holy See, they’re no longer Catholic. Most people who are angered by Pope Francis and make it a political thing haven’t read anything he’s said or written at all.
Sounds like those conservative self identified traditional catholics catholics are actually protestants.
More converts. More flocking back to Latin mass. Catholic schools growing.
Vocations crisis. Exodus. Catholic schools shrinking.
I see new videos on both sides of the coin daily 🤔
The first half of your comment is true within Traditionalist parishes, seminaries, etc. It's growing. The FSSP us turning down candidates because they don't have the space.
In bland novus ordo parishes it's the opposite. The schools are dying. Vocations declining.
Both are true.
These two stories aren't contradictory. The Church is shrinking overall while becoming more conservative and growing in conservative Catholic communities.
Places with a traditional Mass: growing and thriving.
Places with boomer Mass: shrinking
@@DoctorDewgong can you stop saying "boomer Mass," it's not Christ-like at all.
@@RickyDemetro I think it's effective in communicating a lot of information without having to explain what I mean. You knew right away what I meant.
Jesus didn't "play nice" when people were doing awful things in the Temple
There's no conservative or liberal when it comes to Christ. It's either orthodox or heterodox.
Or full on heretic
When I read the bishops letters taught directly by the apostles. It was clear they believed in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist and apostolic succession. Ignatius of Antioch. And Clement of Rome
There is a sense in which political stances do track with religious orthodoxy, but not in the sense that the secular world understands it: for the secular mind, one's religion is just a reflection of one's politics; for the orthodox Catholic it is precisely the reverse: one's politics are informed by one's religious beliefs, which are more fundamental. I know that in my case, my reversion to the Catholic faith and, in particular, to "traditionalism" came first, and then changes in my political views only followed later.
Thank for saying this. My faith comes way before my politics. Faith informs politics. Politics doesn’t inform my faith.
Breaking news: some religious people are dedicated to their faith
Viva Christo Rey
We need to pray more for more revivals everywhere
Millennial here, age 34. I’ve started going to the Traditional Latin Mass, every Sunday for a year now. Ever since Pope Francis placed restrictions it actually made me more curious as to what was going on, and it has really fed my Faith. I still love and respect Pope Francis, I want to make that clear, but the Traditional Latin Mass has really stolen my heart. I’ve been able to get a lot of my friends attending too. ❤
There aren't "conservative" or "liberal" Catholics. You're either orthodox or heterodox (heretical).
Heterodox and heretical aren't the same thing. Heterodox maintain the core Christian beliefs, but bare a clash with some lesser teachings in your denomination. Heretics deny basic core Christian values
‘Conservative’ is a euphemism for ‘people who actually believe in Catholic doctrine’
Most ‘Catholics’ are like Muslims that don’t believe in Mohamed 😅
The fire rises. Christ is King! Hail Mary!
I've been a traditional Catholic for almost 7 years now😊.
There is no left and right there is only Catholicism
How beautiful it is to see young people giving back to Our Lord what belongs to Him who created them!
Before tbe 60s, this is what the Church believed and worshiped for 2000 years, with slow changes over time. We are just returning to that, we are not "reshaping" it. Also since liberals aren't having children (or abort them), we are growing and eventually be the norm. Demographics is destiny as they say.
Not really, the muslim birth rate is pretty high
@@yellowmask1796 ye but that is sheer quantity. Quality triumphs quantity
These ancient institutions offer the best salvation from the chaos of modernity.
Even in my normie Novus Ordo parish, I’ve started seeing women wear veils, more people receiving on the tongue, etc. The mood has shifted. There is a hunger for more reverence.
Yoooooo I remember watching your Arrow in the knee video as a kid. It's so nostalgic to hear it today. I did not expect to see you here of all places, and you being Catholic as well!!
This truly is newsworthy. Thank you!
Bring the Latin mass back to all parishes and watch the Church thrive. (i attend Novus ordo)
They won't thrive , The closest TLM to me is 2 hrs away ( and it's always full, great!) - But right now I live in a community of roughly 120K people, Just off top of my head there is 10 to 15 churches in town ,and that doesn't include any surrounding towns or suburbs and I guarantee each one has at least one catholic church -if they all went TLM how many people would be filling those pews? - probably not not anymore then then there are right now - and possibly some devote Novus Ordo would quit going too?
@@sitka49 Doesn’t have to be TLM only. There’s plenty of parishes that offer TLM, Novus Ordo in English and Spanish at different times, so that everyone in the community can express celebrate the Mass in a way that satisfies their spirit.
You shouldn't extrapolate a few churches that offer the TLM being full to every church offering it being full. Most "normie" catholics are put off by the TLM and would find it alien. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is. I think it would be better to reintroduce some of the elements that were never acutally supposed to be removed by the NO: kneeling at the rail, communion on the tougue, gregorian chant, incense. People would still be put off, of course, but a return of sacredness would start to draw people in even if they don't understand why.
I am 71 and drawn back home to the faith I was raised in. My family attended the Traditional Latin Mass until I was in the 5th or 6th grade. I am a baby Boomer.
That’s great
as a religious guy in his 20's
it is hard looking woman with the mindset of wanting kids, proud to be a mother, and start a family despite the odds of the modern society. with Christ we will make it through. all you have to
is take my hand