Microsoft 2015: Windows 10 shall be the final version of windows and all updates will be added to it Microsoft 2021: Forget about that old 2015 promise bring in windows 11 bois
Windows leader changed, so their vision changed too. Nothing crazy from here. The guy who said Windows 10 will be final Windows isn't even working for Windows anymore.
@@jagjyot4828 In which world are you living? Alpha testing is usally done in-house, and they do of course get paid. But Beta testing, regardless of being closed of open, is usally not. There is no "software beta tester" job. Don't know how you get that idea and claim it with such authority. Paying is actually detrimental. You don't necessarily piss off the guys you're paying and may be subconciously be inclined to sugar coat your feedback. The best feedback you get from paying customers as part of a pre-order/pre-release scheme closed-beta. Open Betas bring you basically limitless feedback for free. Early copies can be shipped to the press for previews, showing off new features while generally not getting lash back because of bugs if the release is still months ahead. Sorry dude, noones gonna pay you to review some random beta version of a piece of software you don't care about. And the people who do care are generally willing to do it for free and not any less comitted to file exhausting feedback and bug reports. Also let be totally honest (and a bit cynical) the real beta testing begins once the product is on store shelves nowadays.
Better hope so, because the Settings menu sucks major dick. Just like every other program they decide to redesign and dumb down to a point were you have like 2 minor settings filling a whole 27 inch display and everything you could simply adjust in Win7 you need to navigate through a maze in the new settings. There is a reason why they kept the old programs/UI as an option in Win10 for its entire lifetime, they know noone would use it if they only left you the dumbed down mobile stuff.
I had a hard time not taking this as a joke. I'm really looking forward to it. Can't wait to see the complete official release (or, rather, can't wait to see if the official release is complete!)
@@adwaitshrivastava10thb35 Have you installed Windows 11 on your actual PC?Is the operating system stable and not buggy?Is the dev build able to run both workstations and games?
Windows Spotlight for the Lock Screen was a feature since a long time ago, even before the 2017 update, and if you never tried the Windows Insider updates, all of those redesigned icons and Windows Tools was already there.
@@belovedtruth3447 I have a feeling this isn't going to be a "new version" in the way classic sense. When Win10 came out they stated that Win10 would be the last operating system we would buy and that they would only update and not release new versions, and considering firstly half of what's in this build is already hidden away in Win10 insider builds anyway, and secondly it seems to be fully using the Win10 base code and feels like just a reskin, so i would guess that going by this information it will simply be a massive update to Win10 with a name change and reskin and Win10 as we know it will become a rollback point.
Yeah Windows spotlight is already in windows 10. It is glitchy though. I had the t not change for a long time then I had to delete some files to get it to work again.
Definitely looking more like a Linux distro...a distro that tries to look like Mac. I don't like it. I use Linux all the time and I like keeping that in its own box. Seems like that's why Microsoft is investing in Linux...look like it, then kill it.
Pop! OS has centered icons in the task bar with different buttons for apps and workspaces, and has a window-tiling menu. Eerily similar. And that "Windows tools" thing with a load of old-style UI system applications that will never get updated...is YaST.
At the moment, yes. But the final release (probably in October) should include a full set of new features. And even if it is similar to 10, it can be worthy of a new name. Don't forget how similar 7 was to Vista -- and who doesn't love Windows 7?!
@Chris Campbell - It was my favourite too... I'm only 14, so I have memories of using it while I was at primary school. I liked it then, and I do even more now.
In Windows 10 or 11 a desktop doesn't feel a desktop anymore. Microsoft has forgotten that DESKTOP users are more important than TABLET users. They should split out the versions of Windows for different devices with different UI.
Or.. Maybe they wanted all eyes on them for the release date. I mean how many of us would've cared if it would have just landed.. Without any hype build prior to release.
Windows 10 2 Also I definitely think Microsoft intentionally leaked it because of their tweet. “This is just the Start”, and the start menu leaks 🧐🧐 (obviously the entire OS leaked but the start menu was a feature everyone saw right away)
@Brian Campbell they added the ability to pin programs, have your recent programs and dedicated documents, pictures and music buttons in windows XP, which then changed pretty much not at all till they gave a hearty F you with windows 8 and its silly start screen and needing to actually click a tile to even see your desktop
"I think this was a feature that was going to be in Windows 10 but got delayed or something" It's literally been there for years lol. It's the default setting!
only now it will get an upgrade where it forces you to scan your finger every time you want to use the computer with a special microsoft finger scanning mouse you need to buy
I guess they have to reference it to something (new number). Must be too many items tp role it into Win 10. We shall see the end of this year. I will still stay with Win 10 till no support in 2025
I feel like Microsoft 'leaked' this build themselves and called it 'windows 11' just as a big joke and on June 24th they will announce this is just 21H2 look
In Windows 10 or 11 a desktop doesn't feel like a desktop anymore. Microsoft has forgotten that DESKTOP users are more important than TABLET users. They should split out the versions of Windows for different devices with different UI.
hopefully we get expandable icons in the taskbar. it really helps me notice what programs are open and a tiny line under the icon will help way less than non-expanding icons in win10. but this is an early build, so i’ll let it slide for now.
What do I need from this new release: 1.integrate windows store with winget 2. Tabs in file explorer 3. New settings app that contains control panel features 4. Upgrade defender. It has good heuristics but viruses are getting smarter. 5. Sandboxing for Progressive web apps
12:12 Ah yes: make formatting drives look ultra simple as if your grandma could do it. What could _possibly_ go wrong? 🙃 Also, they somehow managed to make the start menu *even worse!* That's not a menu, that's just a waste of space! So I won't let go of Classic Shell any time soon 😊
Great video, buddy! You've done a thorough analysis of this leaked build while others simply showcased it in its present state. Keep up the great work! 👍
@@bapoTV luckily theres a program to make it look that way thats what i use cause win 10 start menu ive gotten used to but win 7 start menu is just better personally to me
Hi Thio, big fan here. Can I ask what tool are you using to zoom in/out and other things you can do to emphasize your screen. Appreciate your sharing on this. Thanks.
Aw sheeeit, here we go again... I guess they needed to reboot the whole new licence cash cow again, rather than release it as an update on top of Windows 10.
Considering this looks like nothing more than a glorified feature update, I see absolutely no reason to pay for this. It's hardly even a reskin. Just another attempt to make Windows tablet/touch friendly making the PC experience worse.
15:54 In Windows 10, there's a screen capture API to capture window contents from another program, however Windows will mark the captured window a yellow border, I guess for security reasons. I assume those new settings menus are for turning off this feature, and selectively choosing which apps can exclusively capture windows. You will see this border if you, for instance, use an OBS window capture.
Still nowhere close to design consistency, hope it will be on release. I really hate the font under the desktop icons (which looks somewhat ok on high-res display but like trash on 1080p) and I hope they will change it
@Rel Kinda agree, but I am talking not only about the visual design aspect but functional too. They've added new settings/control panel, and still half of the settings are in the old panel and can't be accessed through the new one and vice versa. These kind of inconsistencies are driving me nuts sometimes. For example to get to the network and sharing center earlier it took like 2 clicks and now you have to go to the new control panel by clicking the network adapter icon in the task bar, and then click a button which takes you back to the old control panel...
Dude! What impressed me the most about this whole video was your presentation of it. Jam-packed with content, fast, and you covered a lot, right down to business. Subscribed! Thank you! My takeaway is a number of nice improvements, but nothing industry-shaking.
There new App Store has me leading to the idea that they might bring back windows phone. It would just make sense if they create a good App Store that is friendly to developers
@doomer boy it was a good product but they failed to advertise it properly Current Microsoft is money hungry so nothing good will come out unfortunately
I had the impressions that the improvements on the Store are somewhat at the cost of platform independence. So while the store might improve on PCs, I guess it might be become less usable for phones.
2015 Microsoft: Windows 10 is the final version of Windows and we will add updates to it instead of making an entirely new OS 2021 Microsoft: Windows 11 is the final version of Windows and we will add updates to it instead of making an entirely new OS
the thing is it feels more like a win10 ui upgrade than a new os im only upgrading if there is significantly less hardware usage by the os itself most of the changes in the current build of win 11 u can just do with external apps lol
@@ojaskashyap5839 because it's Microsoft....windows 8 release was a mess, windows 10 release was a mess, vista release was a mess, xp release was a mess. They have a very good consistency of releasing a bad product
The Screenshot Borders are actually already here - it's the yellow border Snip & Sketch shows when taking a screenshot, and the red border Teams for example shows when sharing your screen.
No taps in windows explorer My biggest complaint since forever and they still didn't integrate it (I know about the 3rd party software that gives you this feature)
To provide information: the 'border' settings for apps is a security measure. Ie you can force borders so you can see when apps are screen shotting and disallow screenshots of inactive tabs to protect information. It's in apps because any program is essentially an app for Windows
Yeah, kind of what i think. If apps can take screenshots, criminals are gonna abuse it. Setting borders will limit access to private info. One thing, i'd also want to limit access per user on the device: one user will DL any and all apps that "look awesome" and then forget about it, while another user i can rely on to take only a trusted few.
Missing items: 1)Photo viewer 2)New notepad 3)New calculator 4)Option for classic start menu 5)Option for change start button color 6)windows app for remote desktop 7)Windows app for connecting media of a car like android auto 8) face recognition at login 9)windows android simulater option to run andriod apps in windows Thanking you ! 🙏🙏🙏
All of these are already present in Windows 10 (except changing start button color, new notepad, classic start menu and android auto). It has a photo viewer (but really badly optimized), the calculator even has a graph now, remote desktop does exist, face recognition does exist (but it needs a really good camera), and android emulator is easy to download.
@@bernardonegri5416 I don't think that. Just think about Android TVs and games on it. If I can install and play an Android game on Android TV, why I can't install Android games whiches requires a more powerful hardware on my PC. But also some apps can be useful on PC. For me it's Vanced YT. Now I have a VM with Android 9 x86 for it.
I downloaded it yesterday and installed it in virtual box. It looks pretty on the front, but it is so messed up. Mixed window styles, sometimes rounded corners, sometimes not. The start bar is very Linuxy, depending on what distribution you use. Significant changes are needed for example, it has the same issues that Office365/Windows10 had, such as the muddled SaveAs which is a complete mash up. It will have to undergo significant revision to qualify as a replacement to Windows 10.
It's not even mildly amusing. All feedback regarding Windows 10 will be immediately discarded. Why waste time on a dead product? We're back to the endless beta cycle. Nothing has to be complete because it can be patched, and nothing has to be patched because the new thing will be better, and the new thing doesn't have to be complete because it can be patched...
I dont know why you are laughing, That is 4 years away that Win 10 will not be supported. Kind of Sad really forcing us to go to another version. I still run Windows 7 and XP systems that are not supported, just dont do much online things with them, but do have applications I use on them.
My theory: This isn't Windows 11. Windows 11 is a lie and this is just an update for Windows 10, with Microsoft is going out of their way to prank everyone due to the tepid response to the latest update which lacked a lot of features people hoped for.
Snip and sketch does show borders, it's usually only visible for a second but if you are like sharing your screen it puts a border around your screen to show it is recording. Try sharing your screen via zoom.
This is such a shame they've removed the " Use small taskbar button" from the Windows 11 settings and etc... So at the end I feel that I will continuing to stick to Windows 10.
I next to use their garbage start menu anymore. I just make a quick launch menu with the programs I use most often on it. Windows and all windows apps are absolutely horrid to the eye anymore. The only thing any of these companies care about anymore is how to steal your info and sell it to spammers and con artists.
On the other side, Microsoft should have much more experience with such updates by now. I had the impression that all the big updates of Windows 10 (two every year) have actually used similar techniques as the upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. So, the upgrade to Windows 11 might actually work very similar to an update of Window 10. Anyway, we will see how it works out.
@@JojOatXGME Microsoft does, but they can't control third parties like Dell, who put in bloatware and odd drivers. The best way to upgrade is save your data offline, and do a fresh install...without all the crap.
@Mor MacFey updates were to continue. But instead of big 3-5 year updates with different licenses, it would be more frequent, smaller changes with the same license. Since hardware only lasts a few years and people don't really bother updating new versions on their old hardware, it made no sense to release huge updates like earlier, especially now that there are not many compelling reasons for most people to upgrade.
I hope they integrate all the setting from Control Panel into settings area in Windows 11. As Control Panel contains option and settings that aren't found in the standard settings. Control Pannel is actually hidden on start > Windows System in 10. Good to see its still in 11.
As long as it doesn't bork some of my older device usage, (or introduce a ton more user privacy concerns), I'll likely upgrade. My biggest concern is if I can still use the modified video drivers for the 3rd Party hotfix of Nvida 3D Vision or not.
Joe, another great presentation. The current leak seems to be mostly cosmetic - eye candy. The Start menu has never re-captured the strong points of the Windows 7 Start menu: grouping applications by category; find out what the user wants to do, then show him or her the applications that do it. Constant changing of the interface confuses the average user and could eventually drive them toward Linux or the Mac. I agree with you that there has to be more to it than just what the leaks are showing.
Classic Shell brings back 7's Start menu perfectly. I can't live without that and Actual Windows Manager (mostly for taskbar and multiple monitor features). Fences is another one I'm clinging to. Also, I can confirm they all work fine with Win 11.
if microsoft keeps their current trend with new OS names, eventually theyll get to the number 95. what are they gonna do then? they cant just name the OS "windows 95" because that already exists
I have the 22000.51 Pro version and funnily enough, it just ran as an update as I am a Window's insider on the Dev channel. It kept everything as I had it with just the new start button moved to the center, which I will keep for the time being. I have tested most of my programs and they run fine. In the last couple of days, the online compatibility checker has been disabled and I like a few others had to enable TPM in BIOS for it to work. Apparently, that's what a few people are suggesting, just download the Dev version and if it installs, you're compatible and good to go. I had thought that I needed a plugin TPM module (4136) for my MSI MEG ACE, but My 3600X has TPM support and it worked that way and without a glitch.
Or just dragging the window in that direction, far left for snap left far right for snap right, up for maximize, and corners will split into 4ths, 10 will even do that thing where it then shows your open programs to snap them into place as well.
Animated or expanding windows is the most terrible idea when one works remotely. A close second is the user required to edit the registry to effect changes. The old control panel is vastly superior to what they want us to use in Win10 and maybe Win11. The line spacing, yes I buy a larger monitor so that I can see more blank space instead of more information. On my screen. Sometimes I wonder whether the people who come up with such things actually use the computer for working.
Maybe who come up with these are graphics designers who don't even use Windows, or not that much. I learn Graphic Design (not UX/GUI) and now it's apparently trendy to use wide space between texts but we do it for print etc., not for UX design on Windows. Also lot of them use Macs or iPads but mainly just their phones - not like I hate any of those things though, or even graphics design, I just don't agree with these new trendy oversimplified styles.
I can tell this is a recent video, because I've been fighting with the Store crashing on several computers at work this week, and those are the exact apps I see every time I launch it. :D Thanks for the clear explanations and going into some of the gritty details. Yeah it mostly does seem like a Win10 skin, so I wonder if there will be any must-upgrade features in it. And will it be a free upgrade like Win10 was/is?
i couldnt care any less about visuals, how about telementry, how about gaming latency?HPET? will this be as clean as win7 days, and also how customizable is it?
Steam Resident Evil Village is reporting black screen issues on multiple nvidia RTX hardwares. You will need a specific driver as a workaround(older geforce game ready drivers released for GTX era). So I can say there are stability issues already with graphics drivers for this leak on certain latest games with RTX nvidia GPUs. Streaming with steam guard was way too perfect than I expected. I couldn't differentiate from my old hardware and the actual local machine. There are a lot of cool features on taskbar.
Directory Opus is awesome - it not only has tabs, but many other features I don't think I could live without, now that I've used it for a couple years.
One feature that Windows should really adopt is the option to make one window stay on top of the others. apprently, the only app that can do that is the task manager. It is already a common feature on Linux
They had to merge the search to the start menu experience. Give it a back button when transitioning between Windows Search and Start Menu. Aside, just revive the Windows Timeline, it'll look good. Cortana uses dedicated dock icon, or just app icon in start menu to pin too.
6:26 so I'm in the windows insider program, and an on the dev channel. This is what file explorer looks like on that for a while actually. Everything takes a bit to get used to but it's not that bad after you get used to it.
@Him Not scrap everything. I want them to redesign things that need to be redesigned, add performance enhancements and features, remove things people have complained about (not make it more intrusive like spamming asking for an account), and reinvent the OS. Windows 10 from 2015 is almost the same as it is now. And in 2015 it was almost the same as 8.1. And 8.1 was almost the same as 8. All they do is keep making minor visual changes and changing the task bar. Yawn. At the very least, they certainly shouldn’t be saying it’s “one of the most exciting updates ever” if it’s literally a skin for Windows 10. Pathetic imo.
I've seen other vids on this 'leak' and I'm glad you went more in-depth and showed the task manager, that build is running an easy 30 less processes than what I'm currently running on my Win10 build. If whenever this does come and it runs close to that amount, then people like me with older computers shouldn't have to worry about losing even more frames while gaming like when I went from Win7 to Win10. Thanks for the great vid!
I liked the animations and the way of decluttering the start menu, but then it doesn't look like there has been a major UI overhaul like it was with Windows XP to Windows Vista or Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 or Windows 10. Those days it was so cool to see the major UI overhaul. But one thing I feel is that since there is no major upgrade, all Windows 10 devices can easily run Windows 11 with no sweat.
The icons in the control panel are nearly the same as Windows 7 heh! Looks like Microsoft realized they screwed up by making simplistic mono icons. I never liked the dull look of the Windows 10 control panel.
Yeah, if the only thing "Windows 11" does is reintroduce some color and make icons distinguishable again, that's already a big move ib the right direction, lol!
IT'S HAPPENING
Yes it is Thio
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Microsoft 2015: Windows 10 shall be the final version of windows and all updates will be added to it
Microsoft 2021: Forget about that old 2015 promise bring in windows 11 bois
"We gotta sell more License Keys"
Windows leader changed, so their vision changed too. Nothing crazy from here. The guy who said Windows 10 will be final Windows isn't even working for Windows anymore.
omg I didn't know I would get hearted ty ThioJoe
The Microsoft Irony
You honestly can't expect a software company not to innovate and just release updates forever. like that's ridiculous bro
Plot twist: Microsoft leaked this to get feedback.
I had the same thought!
Yes maybe xD
I'm serious rn - could be possible that someone just added bunch of new features to a win 10 model? Like win 10 based OS? idk
well the file found its way through the internet from china so-
Well I signed into my account and im waiting for the chap at the door
LMAO
If this was the ThioJoe from 5 years ago, I would of assumed this was a joke video
“Step 1: Print and fill out this totally legit form and address it to Bill Microsoft Gates”
Would have*
@@digojez step three: now you need to buy an NFT so he can send you the software through blockchainz.
I'm still always sceptical of these videos. The trauma. Never forget
Bro I am subbed for YEARS and I am ignoring the vids because I think they are jokes, now I was in a mood for a laugh and it's a serious vid lol.
21:27 "This is just the Start" might be because the only big thing in the leaked build was the new Start Menu. Sneaky Microsoft.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
New menu, new version number.
Finish is your overall new OS.....
They should just do what they do to everyone else. Partner with desktopscapes and then run them out of business.
When Microsoft dont wanna pay beta testers,
so they "leak" it
Iq 10000000000
Do they get paid, really?
@@JagdeepRamgarhia every beta tester for every big program/os ever made gets paid. it's a job.
@@jagjyot4828 In which world are you living?
Alpha testing is usally done in-house, and they do of course get paid.
But Beta testing, regardless of being closed of open, is usally not.
There is no "software beta tester" job. Don't know how you get that idea and claim it with such authority.
Paying is actually detrimental. You don't necessarily piss off the guys you're paying and may be subconciously be inclined to sugar coat your feedback.
The best feedback you get from paying customers as part of a pre-order/pre-release scheme closed-beta.
Open Betas bring you basically limitless feedback for free.
Early copies can be shipped to the press for previews, showing off new features while generally not getting lash back because of bugs if the release is still months ahead.
Sorry dude, noones gonna pay you to review some random beta version of a piece of software you don't care about. And the people who do care are generally willing to do it for free and not any less comitted to file exhausting feedback and bug reports.
Also let be totally honest (and a bit cynical) the real beta testing begins once the product is on store shelves nowadays.
@@uuo9151 i downloaded
i have it in google drive
I sense in 2050 we are still gonna get the Control Panel
With 1 feature only
Better hope so, because the Settings menu sucks major dick.
Just like every other program they decide to redesign and dumb down to a point were you have like 2 minor settings filling a whole 27 inch display and everything you could simply adjust in Win7 you need to navigate through a maze in the new settings.
There is a reason why they kept the old programs/UI as an option in Win10 for its entire lifetime, they know noone would use it if they only left you the dumbed down mobile stuff.
Control panel with vr? Matrix ? Omg me wana
Well duh
The last beacon of hope in the windows settings insanity…
I had a hard time not taking this as a joke. I'm really looking forward to it. Can't wait to see the complete official release (or, rather, can't wait to see if the official release is complete!)
i have installed it :)
its shit, I hope they ll never release it
@@fredy000 it’s not that bad, it’s just not a big update
@@adwaitshrivastava10thb35 Have you installed Windows 11 on your actual PC?Is the operating system stable and not buggy?Is the dev build able to run both workstations and games?
How are you excited for windows 😂
Windows Spotlight for the Lock Screen was a feature since a long time ago, even before the 2017 update, and if you never tried the Windows Insider updates, all of those redesigned icons and Windows Tools was already there.
So you say this whole thing is a joke?
@@belovedtruth3447 no, it is real, but some of the stuff inside was already there in Insider builds
@@vdmir40 then i guess there's no point in calling it new
@@belovedtruth3447 I have a feeling this isn't going to be a "new version" in the way classic sense. When Win10 came out they stated that Win10 would be the last operating system we would buy and that they would only update and not release new versions, and considering firstly half of what's in this build is already hidden away in Win10 insider builds anyway, and secondly it seems to be fully using the Win10 base code and feels like just a reskin, so i would guess that going by this information it will simply be a massive update to Win10 with a name change and reskin and Win10 as we know it will become a rollback point.
Yeah Windows spotlight is already in windows 10. It is glitchy though. I had the t not change for a long time then I had to delete some files to get it to work again.
So looks to me like Microsoft is adding a little bit more Linux but making it look more Mac ..
While keeping it like windows 10
No one cares what you think
My mind just clicks on gears when i hear "making it look like mac".
Windows and Mac OS are not meant to mix
Definitely looking more like a Linux distro...a distro that tries to look like Mac. I don't like it. I use Linux all the time and I like keeping that in its own box. Seems like that's why Microsoft is investing in Linux...look like it, then kill it.
Pop! OS has centered icons in the task bar with different buttons for apps and workspaces, and has a window-tiling menu. Eerily similar.
And that "Windows tools" thing with a load of old-style UI system applications that will never get updated...is YaST.
So far I see no changes that would warrant a new version, they could have just updated Windows 10 with these options.
please don't win 10 is already perfect
@@HestonSinurayaJogja
It's got RoUnDeD wInDoWs
At the moment, yes. But the final release (probably in October) should include a full set of new features.
And even if it is similar to 10, it can be worthy of a new name. Don't forget how similar 7 was to Vista -- and who doesn't love Windows 7?!
@Chris Campbell - It was my favourite too... I'm only 14, so I have memories of using it while I was at primary school. I liked it then, and I do even more now.
I’ve heard of Windows 11 all over the internet today, but since you uploaded this, I have to watch it
In Windows 10 or 11 a desktop doesn't feel a desktop anymore. Microsoft has forgotten that DESKTOP users are more important than TABLET users. They should split out the versions of Windows for different devices with different UI.
@Supergingerpantelisgames then get one, or if you want something cheaper then try HP Envy
Im pretty certain this "Leak" wasnt really a Leak. Its just that the changes arent so drastic they need something to market this
Yeah and windows 11 thing is Just a lie
Or.. Maybe they wanted all eyes on them for the release date.
I mean how many of us would've cared if it would have just landed.. Without any hype build prior to release.
How to get people to listen to what you say: "Psst, I shouldn't be telling you this, but ..."
@@theeternal6890 its still real though
The UI is honestly really pretty and clean. I love that they are finally using shading on their icons!
Compare it to Mac
Me: they are the same picture
Windows: No don't turn me into an oversimplified logo!
Microsoft:
at least they dropped the oversimplified visual studio 2012-2017 logo
Windows 10 logo: tilted windows, looks cool
Windows 11 logo: M I N E C R A F T
Also the startup sound is apart of a disc in mc
@@_dallas_ That would mean Microsoft is being extremely resourceful
Ya all new icons look like cartoonist
BLUE SMOOTH QUARTZ
@@vinodkumarsingh1973
It certainly doesn't look 'cartoonist'.
Windows 10 2
Also I definitely think Microsoft intentionally leaked it because of their tweet. “This is just the Start”, and the start menu leaks 🧐🧐 (obviously the entire OS leaked but the start menu was a feature everyone saw right away)
I personally do not see any point to put Start in the center, or remove functions from the Start.
Well rember that this is a very early build of window 11 so they probably have not added everything
There's an option in start settings to shift everything back over to the left. Center by default is definitely strange but I've gotten use to it.
@Brian Campbell Windows 8.1 is the best
@Brian Campbell they added the ability to pin programs, have your recent programs and dedicated documents, pictures and music buttons in windows XP, which then changed pretty much not at all till they gave a hearty F you with windows 8 and its silly start screen and needing to actually click a tile to even see your desktop
"I think this was a feature that was going to be in Windows 10 but got delayed or something"
It's literally been there for years lol. It's the default setting!
Which feature? Timestamp?
@@L4JP Windows Spotlight
@@Gaming32i He Pissed Me
only now it will get an upgrade where it forces you to scan your finger every time you want to use the computer with a special microsoft finger scanning mouse you need to buy
Wish Microsoft would add file & folder tagging, tag searching and so on....File manager needs a major overhaul.
at this point just stop giving it a number, make it "windows" and update it forever
Nah lol
I guess they have to reference it to something (new number). Must be too many items tp role it into Win 10. We shall see the end of this year. I will still stay with Win 10 till no support in 2025
As far as I know, microsoft keeps updating the same OS since windows XP (correct me if I'm wrong)
That's poses a big problem. 1: you can tell which version you're running if you're like a grandma or something 2: I want a fresh Operating system
I don't think that's a good idea
Was literally about to watch your Windows 10 X video.
I feel like Microsoft 'leaked' this build themselves and called it 'windows 11' just as a big joke and on June 24th they will announce this is just 21H2 look
Dont hold your breath, looks like a Win 11 is coming.
Bruh they literally mentioned Windows 10 EoL is 2025. And it is already 2021
@@sanjay_swain I do agree...bt still we can download win 11 whats the big deal!
Its technically just a Linux distro
DIdn't they announce that they were going to redesign the UI a long time ago? They called it "Sunvalley" or something.
At least I can finally make a perfect square around the logo.
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@@earlessaxolotl8632 thanks
I still don't understand why there's an "app store" in the first place when the ENTIRE INTERNET is my app store.
Well...because of Play Store and Apps.
Ikr but it might be usefull in Windows 11 cause you ll be able to get android apps
wdym lol ??
It's all about locking you into a walled garden.
I kind of agree with the theory that this is a UX team build and feature changes are in a separate build, which they'll merge later.
Yeah I am pretty sure this build is very early build. It’s most likely going to have a lot more stuff when it finally releases.
Yea for sure
Its saying the build was made on may 30 or 31
In Windows 10 or 11 a desktop doesn't feel like a desktop anymore. Microsoft has forgotten that DESKTOP users are more important than TABLET users. They should split out the versions of Windows for different devices with different UI.
@@Lucky5111 i think they are gonna do the same thing how they did with windows 8 , they realesed 8.1 as more greater version of 8
@@patricius2512 I don’t think that because it is a lot of changes and they want to make it known. 10.1 just seems like the same thing like windows 10.
hopefully we get expandable icons in the taskbar. it really helps me notice what programs are open and a tiny line under the icon will help way less than non-expanding icons in win10. but this is an early build, so i’ll let it slide for now.
Expanded icons, yes please. Oh and multi screen startup wallpaper.
You'll have to do it the usual way, via a third party app
I literally just got windows 10 last year and I'm still getting used to it. Can they just calm the hell down?
What do I need from this new release:
1.integrate windows store with winget
2. Tabs in file explorer
3. New settings app that contains control panel features
4. Upgrade defender. It has good heuristics but viruses are getting smarter.
5. Sandboxing for Progressive web apps
14:37 - "Let's just type in a random one."
Mhm, I see your sneaky Cloudflare ad.
Lol cloudfare and Google dns is most common anyways
12:12 Ah yes: make formatting drives look ultra simple as if your grandma could do it. What could _possibly_ go wrong? 🙃
Also, they somehow managed to make the start menu *even worse!* That's not a menu, that's just a waste of space!
So I won't let go of Classic Shell any time soon 😊
i agree with you, they just took win 10 and put fucking macos look on it
They make it like Mac and I think in this waste of space u can put only from the left or right stuff like the Mac
Great video, buddy! You've done a thorough analysis of this leaked build while others simply showcased it in its present state. Keep up the great work! 👍
Amazing how they manage to make the start menu crappier in every version.
While I agree... at the same time the only thing I use Start menu for is to shut down my PC.
exactly, they should just take the Windows 7 Start Menu and just never change it again
@@bapoTV luckily theres a program to make it look that way thats what i use cause win 10 start menu ive gotten used to but win 7 start menu is just better personally to me
@@uwuimacatgirlnya1187 yes but I have a potato pc so I limit the number of things running at the same time :')
Start menu looks like a linux build to me...
Hi Thio, big fan here. Can I ask what tool are you using to zoom in/out and other things you can do to emphasize your screen. Appreciate your sharing on this. Thanks.
Aw sheeeit, here we go again...
I guess they needed to reboot the whole new licence cash cow again, rather than release it as an update on top of Windows 10.
Considering this looks like nothing more than a glorified feature update, I see absolutely no reason to pay for this. It's hardly even a reskin. Just another attempt to make Windows tablet/touch friendly making the PC experience worse.
At least currently, win7 licences work for win11 as well
Didn't they say Win 10 was the last Windows? 🤔
I used my Win10 product key on it, worked like a charm.
@ it is going to be a free update
I wish that they'd add a 'Make me look like Windows 7' button.
@Michaels Carport HAHAHAHAHA
The Windows 7 crowd......we've moved on.
Linux if u want that
This ,,windows 11" is also Linux
@Jaquan Kelsor How very sad.
@@paristath6773 What's so funny?
Plot twist: Microsoft pulls of a Whistler move from XP release where the beta build looked nothing like on reveal day.
That seems likely. Also like he said at the end this does seem kind of convenient and that make me think that Microsoft leaked it themselves.
Don't forget Longhorn.
I’m absolutely positive this leaked from a lab in China.
@@wizdude oh noes
17:07 I like how the Group Policy Editor still uses the Windows Whistler theme/style
15:54 In Windows 10, there's a screen capture API to capture window contents from another program, however Windows will mark the captured window a yellow border, I guess for security reasons. I assume those new settings menus are for turning off this feature, and selectively choosing which apps can exclusively capture windows. You will see this border if you, for instance, use an OBS window capture.
Still nowhere close to design consistency, hope it will be on release. I really hate the font under the desktop icons (which looks somewhat ok on high-res display but like trash on 1080p) and I hope they will change it
@Rel Kinda agree, but I am talking not only about the visual design aspect but functional too. They've added new settings/control panel, and still half of the settings are in the old panel and can't be accessed through the new one and vice versa. These kind of inconsistencies are driving me nuts sometimes.
For example to get to the network and sharing center earlier it took like 2 clicks and now you have to go to the new control panel by clicking the network adapter icon in the task bar, and then click a button which takes you back to the old control panel...
Imagine this is a marketing tactic by Microsoft to get feedback on windows 11
Big brain IQ
it probably is a marketing tactic since there a lot of smart people working in microsoft
Pretty interesting! Interesting to see how Windows has evolved and will evolve.
Dude! What impressed me the most about this whole video was your presentation of it. Jam-packed with content, fast, and you covered a lot, right down to business. Subscribed! Thank you! My takeaway is a number of nice improvements, but nothing industry-shaking.
This was purposely leaked to create a buzz before the official release even though they lied about windows 10 being the final version.
There new App Store has me leading to the idea that they might bring back windows phone. It would just make sense if they create a good App Store that is friendly to developers
@doomer boy it was a good product but they failed to advertise it properly
Current Microsoft is money hungry so nothing good will come out unfortunately
I had the impressions that the improvements on the Store are somewhat at the cost of platform independence. So while the store might improve on PCs, I guess it might be become less usable for phones.
I just searched it on Google a minute ago. Glad you upload this video.
2015 Microsoft: Windows 10 is the final version of Windows and we will add updates to it instead of making an entirely new OS
2021 Microsoft: Windows 11 is the final version of Windows and we will add updates to it instead of making an entirely new OS
Windows 10 sounds so much better then Windows 11. Windows 11 sounds mediocre lol
xp-------------------6 years-------------vista| same with windows 10 and 11
the thing is it feels more like a win10 ui upgrade than a new os
im only upgrading if there is significantly less hardware usage by the os itself
most of the changes in the current build of win 11 u can just do with external apps lol
@@Bigmon why tf folks can't stop judging final release with just a beta? Lmao all early beta builds of any windows are trash anyways.
@@ojaskashyap5839 because it's Microsoft....windows 8 release was a mess, windows 10 release was a mess, vista release was a mess, xp release was a mess. They have a very good consistency of releasing a bad product
The Screenshot Borders are actually already here - it's the yellow border Snip & Sketch shows when taking a screenshot, and the red border Teams for example shows when sharing your screen.
No taps in windows explorer
My biggest complaint since forever and they still didn't integrate it
(I know about the 3rd party software that gives you this feature)
It feels like Microsoft keeps limiting and slowing down the basic functioning of the OS
This is what they're doing
They’re making it idiot proof
This is a very early build and its the S version this is not the full version
@@Kaiyats if using the thing YOU bought makes you an "idiot" then ok.
To provide information: the 'border' settings for apps is a security measure. Ie you can force borders so you can see when apps are screen shotting and disallow screenshots of inactive tabs to protect information. It's in apps because any program is essentially an app for Windows
Yeah, kind of what i think. If apps can take screenshots, criminals are gonna abuse it. Setting borders will limit access to private info. One thing, i'd also want to limit access per user on the device: one user will DL any and all apps that "look awesome" and then forget about it, while another user i can rely on to take only a trusted few.
This windows 11 is running on Linux
That is not a thing that can happen
I cant shrink the Taskbar. I use small icons because I want more workspace, less icon clutter. Shame on then for not keeping the traditional Taskbar
Autohide. Press the windows key to see what the time is and other stuff.
Thank you for putting the hash in the video. I don't think I actually plan on installing it, but it's cool that you added that extra bit of safety.
I still prefer the Old Convineint Start Menu
Classic Shell for life!
Bring back the Windows 8 start screen 😂 😂 😂
I prefer the win10 list thing with the live tiles area removed and having taskbarx for centered tb
@@wizdude masochist? 😄
Thats why you install Open Shell.
Missing items:
1)Photo viewer
2)New notepad
3)New calculator
4)Option for classic start menu
5)Option for change start button color
6)windows app for remote desktop
7)Windows app for connecting media of a car like android auto
8) face recognition at login
9)windows android simulater option to run andriod apps in windows
Thanking you !
🙏🙏🙏
All of these are already present in Windows 10 (except changing start button color, new notepad, classic start menu and android auto). It has a photo viewer (but really badly optimized), the calculator even has a graph now, remote desktop does exist, face recognition does exist (but it needs a really good camera), and android emulator is easy to download.
@@bernardonegri5416 Yes, Android emulator can be downloaded, but an integrated version in Windows will be better
@@ChristianMiller94 The thing is most users will have no use for the Android emulator and chances are it is going to use a lot of disk space.
@@bernardonegri5416 I don't think that.
Just think about Android TVs and games on it.
If I can install and play an Android game on Android TV, why I can't install Android games whiches requires a more powerful hardware on my PC.
But also some apps can be useful on PC.
For me it's Vanced YT.
Now I have a VM with Android 9 x86 for it.
10) windows explorer tabs
11) getting rid of the control panel by merging it with the settings menu.
Win 10 code probably was missing too much of the stealthy spy code needed to catch up with Amazon & Google.
Is it possible to turn the rounded edges off? But honestly looking forward to this
Why would you?
@@shadyslim3069 he is a pixel addict, he like sharp corners.
Out of all that, your question is about rounded edges. 😖
I hope so. This bothered me the most
@@shadyslim3069 he plays Minecraft, circles are illegal also I would like to change it back aswell since I'm really not a fan.
I downloaded it yesterday and installed it in virtual box. It looks pretty on the front, but it is so messed up. Mixed window styles, sometimes rounded corners, sometimes not. The start bar is very Linuxy, depending on what distribution you use. Significant changes are needed for example, it has the same issues that Office365/Windows10 had, such as the muddled SaveAs which is a complete mash up. It will have to undergo significant revision to qualify as a replacement to Windows 10.
I was laughing when I saw that Windows 10 won't be supported on October, 14 2025.
*intense nostalgic sweating* y-yeah..
@@M0T0G0 Since when is windows 10 nostalgia.
It's not even mildly amusing. All feedback regarding Windows 10 will be immediately discarded. Why waste time on a dead product? We're back to the endless beta cycle. Nothing has to be complete because it can be patched, and nothing has to be patched because the new thing will be better, and the new thing doesn't have to be complete because it can be patched...
I dont know why you are laughing, That is 4 years away that Win 10 will not be supported. Kind of Sad really forcing us to go to another version. I still run Windows 7 and XP systems that are not supported, just dont do much online things with them, but do have applications I use on them.
Then the answer is to just use Linux where it's a lot more secure and updates are more stable
My theory: This isn't Windows 11. Windows 11 is a lie and this is just an update for Windows 10, with Microsoft is going out of their way to prank everyone due to the tepid response to the latest update which lacked a lot of features people hoped for.
Other companies leak: leak images, photos, video, product demo
Microsoft leak: whole windows 11 iso leaked 😂
Rounded corners? Gradients? Reposition buttons??? Truly revolutionary. This will change the way we think of personal computers!!
Snip and sketch does show borders, it's usually only visible for a second but if you are like sharing your screen it puts a border around your screen to show it is recording. Try sharing your screen via zoom.
This is such a shame they've removed the " Use small taskbar button" from the Windows 11 settings and etc... So at the end I feel that I will continuing to stick to Windows 10.
Even after when windows 10 get's out of support (2025) ?
I next to use their garbage start menu anymore. I just make a quick launch menu with the programs I use most often on it. Windows and all windows apps are absolutely horrid to the eye anymore. The only thing any of these companies care about anymore is how to steal your info and sell it to spammers and con artists.
they will probably add that setting in the final build.
Again, this is absolutely not the final build. It's clearly not feature-heavy and they have much to implement in the future.
"So this will be an update, not a fresh install"
Remember how well that worked going from Windows 7 to Windows 10? Fresh install for the Win!!!
On the other side, Microsoft should have much more experience with such updates by now. I had the impression that all the big updates of Windows 10 (two every year) have actually used similar techniques as the upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. So, the upgrade to Windows 11 might actually work very similar to an update of Window 10. Anyway, we will see how it works out.
@@JojOatXGME Microsoft does, but they can't control third parties like Dell, who put in bloatware and odd drivers. The best way to upgrade is save your data offline, and do a fresh install...without all the crap.
Ok so now I'm confused. I thought MS said win 10 was the final windows os. They were just going to remove the 10 and release massive updates.
Well theres a new person in charge or something and thats why Windows 11 is here
Just what I got off another person tho
@Mor MacFey updates were to continue. But instead of big 3-5 year updates with different licenses, it would be more frequent, smaller changes with the same license. Since hardware only lasts a few years and people don't really bother updating new versions on their old hardware, it made no sense to release huge updates like earlier, especially now that there are not many compelling reasons for most people to upgrade.
I hope they integrate all the setting from Control Panel into settings area in Windows 11. As Control Panel contains option and settings that aren't found in the standard settings. Control Pannel is actually hidden on start > Windows System in 10. Good to see its still in 11.
This. The unnecessary transition to the new convoluted settings has been a failure since day one and remains an annoyance to this very day.
You explain nicely, when I watch others video they didn't explain clearly
Heyyyyyyyyy
Ok
Double height taskbar is the way to go.
i actually don't like the big taskbar so I always use small taskbar option. and they removed it. :|
I use taskbar on the right side
Infinite height
I use it since Vista I think
i've got it installed on my laptop and so far the only bug i encountered was windows defender not showing anything on first launch but it fixed itself
Using this on my production machine, haven't came across anything damaging yet. It's been running smooth as butter for me.
@@thatonefurry same here and its activated also windows 11 home
Snip & Sketch can have a border. Once you have taken a snip, go to settings and there is an option to add a border to the image, and all future snips
As long as it doesn't bork some of my older device usage, (or introduce a ton more user privacy concerns), I'll likely upgrade.
My biggest concern is if I can still use the modified video drivers for the 3rd Party hotfix of Nvida 3D Vision or not.
Joe, another great presentation. The current leak seems to be mostly cosmetic - eye candy. The Start menu has never re-captured the strong points of the Windows 7 Start menu: grouping applications by category; find out what the user wants to do, then show him or her the applications that do it. Constant changing of the interface confuses the average user and could eventually drive them toward Linux or the Mac. I agree with you that there has to be more to it than just what the leaks are showing.
Classic Shell brings back 7's Start menu perfectly. I can't live without that and Actual Windows Manager (mostly for taskbar and multiple monitor features). Fences is another one I'm clinging to. Also, I can confirm they all work fine with Win 11.
So pretty icons and better spyware what a great OS to look forward to.
New punctuation for sarcasm --> ¡ & ¿
if microsoft keeps their current trend with new OS names, eventually theyll get to the number 95. what are they gonna do then? they cant just name the OS "windows 95" because that already exists
Windows 2000? We should live so long.
windows 96
We won't even be alive long enough to care about such things.
Isn't it the reason why they skipped windows 9 though?
@@hio7019 no, they skipped win9 because of the huge difference between win8 and win10
honestly at this point you can't get more modern than 10
I have the 22000.51 Pro version and funnily enough, it just ran as an update as I am a Window's insider on the Dev channel. It kept everything as I had it with just the new start button moved to the center, which I will keep for the time being. I have tested most of my programs and they run fine. In the last couple of days, the online compatibility checker has been disabled and I like a few others had to enable TPM in BIOS for it to work. Apparently, that's what a few people are suggesting, just download the Dev version and if it installs, you're compatible and good to go. I had thought that I needed a plugin TPM module (4136) for my MSI MEG ACE, but My 3600X has TPM support and it worked that way and without a glitch.
@6:50 That feature is actually in Windows 10, but you can only access it by holding the Windows key, and pushing up down left or right.
Or just dragging the window in that direction, far left for snap left far right for snap right, up for maximize, and corners will split into 4ths, 10 will even do that thing where it then shows your open programs to snap them into place as well.
Microsoft: windows 11 isn't coming
Leakers: yes but actually no
Animated or expanding windows is the most terrible idea when one works remotely. A close second is the user required to edit the registry to effect changes.
The old control panel is vastly superior to what they want us to use in Win10 and maybe Win11.
The line spacing, yes I buy a larger monitor so that I can see more blank space instead of more information. On my screen. Sometimes I wonder whether the people who come up with such things actually use the computer for working.
Maybe who come up with these are graphics designers who don't even use Windows, or not that much. I learn Graphic Design (not UX/GUI) and now it's apparently trendy to use wide space between texts but we do it for print etc., not for UX design on Windows. Also lot of them use Macs or iPads but mainly just their phones - not like I hate any of those things though, or even graphics design, I just don't agree with these new trendy oversimplified styles.
October 14 2025-"If You still use windows 10, You are very Dumb!"-ThioJoe
I would only upgrade if the add more optimization for gaming like new settings, more,optimization and a smoother experience
I can tell this is a recent video, because I've been fighting with the Store crashing on several computers at work this week, and those are the exact apps I see every time I launch it. :D
Thanks for the clear explanations and going into some of the gritty details. Yeah it mostly does seem like a Win10 skin, so I wonder if there will be any must-upgrade features in it. And will it be a free upgrade like Win10 was/is?
I’ve been waiting for this
i couldnt care any less about visuals, how about telementry, how about gaming latency?HPET? will this be as clean as win7 days, and also how customizable is it?
Steam Resident Evil Village is reporting black screen issues on multiple nvidia RTX hardwares. You will need a specific driver as a workaround(older geforce game ready drivers released for GTX era). So I can say there are stability issues already with graphics drivers for this leak on certain latest games with RTX nvidia GPUs. Streaming with steam guard was way too perfect than I expected. I couldn't differentiate from my old hardware and the actual local machine. There are a lot of cool features on taskbar.
wrong video to reply to.
I'd like to see a dark mode option for task manager.
is that same as high contrast mode?
The only, ONLY thing I want is precisely tabs in File Explorer, I want to be able to stop using Clover, which crashes constantly.
Directory Opus is awesome - it not only has tabs, but many other features I don't think I could live without, now that I've used it for a couple years.
You right click the start window for more settings options,
control panel, device manager etc. 👍🏼✌🏼
I know this is old but 🤷🏼♂️
I want windows 11 to have live tiles on the start menu.
Why though?
They only distract with useless stuff
Windows 10 no longer has an offline account option unless you disconnect the internet during installation.
So our computers will run slower, shitter than ever and no drivers
I'll wait until support ends for 10 before upgrading let everyone else sort out the bugs.
One feature that Windows should really adopt is the option to make one window stay on top of the others. apprently, the only app that can do that is the task manager. It is already a common feature on Linux
They had to merge the search to the start menu experience. Give it a back button when transitioning between Windows Search and Start Menu.
Aside, just revive the Windows Timeline, it'll look good. Cortana uses dedicated dock icon, or just app icon in start menu to pin too.
6:26 so I'm in the windows insider program, and an on the dev channel. This is what file explorer looks like on that for a while actually. Everything takes a bit to get used to but it's not that bad after you get used to it.
As a systems engineer, the white space is annoying and pointless. Rather not get used to it.
So far this could literally be a simple Win 10 update. It doesn't need a new version
This is running on Linux
So it’s literally Windows 10. That’s disappointing. I was hoping for a proper new OS.
windows 10 took eternity to build and they are not letting it to be changed lol
I’m hoping that additional changes will be announced next week. This is an older build, after all.
@Him Not scrap everything. I want them to redesign things that need to be redesigned, add performance enhancements and features, remove things people have complained about (not make it more intrusive like spamming asking for an account), and reinvent the OS. Windows 10 from 2015 is almost the same as it is now. And in 2015 it was almost the same as 8.1. And 8.1 was almost the same as 8. All they do is keep making minor visual changes and changing the task bar. Yawn. At the very least, they certainly shouldn’t be saying it’s “one of the most exciting updates ever” if it’s literally a skin for Windows 10. Pathetic imo.
@@lizardpeter Dude remember THIS BUILD OF WINDOWS 11 is not finished YET.
@@TrueRedditTales. Yeah, let’s hope it’s missing at least 90% of the new features. If not then what an embarrassment for Microsoft.
Windows 7 users be like: Ah shit, here we go again.
Windows XP has entered the chat
And that includes me 😂😕🙌
@Christine Ayres actually plz upgrade. how the hell are you using RUclips
I've seen other vids on this 'leak' and I'm glad you went more in-depth and showed the task manager, that build is running an easy 30 less processes than what I'm currently running on my Win10 build. If whenever this does come and it runs close to that amount, then people like me with older computers shouldn't have to worry about losing even more frames while gaming like when I went from Win7 to Win10. Thanks for the great vid!
I liked the animations and the way of decluttering the start menu, but then it doesn't look like there has been a major UI overhaul like it was with Windows XP to Windows Vista or Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 or Windows 10. Those days it was so cool to see the major UI overhaul. But one thing I feel is that since there is no major upgrade, all Windows 10 devices can easily run Windows 11 with no sweat.
The icons in the control panel are nearly the same as Windows 7 heh! Looks like Microsoft realized they screwed up by making simplistic mono icons. I never liked the dull look of the Windows 10 control panel.
Yeah, if the only thing "Windows 11" does is reintroduce some color and make icons distinguishable again, that's already a big move ib the right direction, lol!