APR STAGE 1 TUNE REVIEW AFTER ONE YEAR; PROBLEMS WITH THE TUNE AND MORE
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Hey guys, first off, thanks to Brandon for suggesting the video. To start off, if you guys are planning on tuning your car, you must be able to take extra care of your car. You can't just get the tune and keep the same oil intervals because your engine is taking more strain. If you take good care of your car, the only problems you're gonna have with the car is too much power;). Ive had no problems so far, and I punish my car often. Thanks for Watching guys.
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Thank you for sharing your experience with the build.Audi comes clogged from Europe because of the emissions and tight regulations but if you let the engine breath the car will reward yourself with longevity
So what car are you talking about? What is the problem with the APR tune? I'm glad you seem to like your tune and your car but without giving any details about what car/tune, etc I have a hard time saying there is anything useful in this video.
I’m sorry
@@JoshTVids 😓 ouch
@@JoshTVids you could add the details in the video Description
Its a golf. He did say he has a tsi 🤷♂️
My 15 Golf R stage 2 Unitronic. Loved it!
And I had to replace all 4 tired every yr!
I just did the Apr stage 1 flash on my 17 R. Manual. It def changes the entire car. The boost is almost double. The G force that it pushes u into the Seat with is scary for people I take for a ride to show them "why I got a VW R" lol. They saw my last cars. Infiniti G hooked up the ass and a lexus I worked nicely. This car is BY FAR my favorite ride ever. At this point in time. The thought process and TLC that went into this car is noticeable in everything that it does and now it just does it FASTER. I am def goin to keep going down the road on modding this. This APR stage 1 is the single best mod u can get for the money. I went "low torque " so as not to burn out the factory clutch yet. Sacrificing 15ft/lbs of torque but saving 1300 USD$ in the mean time. When the time comes I will swap out the clutch but for now it's a pleasure. Still getting high 20's to 30's on the highway and 20 on the street. Even if I'm alittle loco with it. Got the Pirellis on it. 19" all season bcuz the weather is shit out here a lot of the time. I have felt that better tires at this point would be noticeably different. ESP at approaching cornering limits. But I would tell EVERYONE interested in a fast , usable in the snow , daily driver / sleeper. To test drive one of these. I got manual bcuz I love them. But the DSG is even quicker. I can't imagine. Great vid. Appreciate the feedback. Keep it coming. SUB!
nolongerhuman13 I envy you! The golf R is amazing off the lot and with the tune it is an absolute beast.
nolongerhuman13 do you have an Instagram for your car? If so what is it?
You should write a book about it jeez 🤦🏻♂️😂
I got my 19' R Estate tuned today, apr stage 1, intercooler, turbo inlet and air intake.... It feels like another car
Same for my GTI, maintenance and driving habits are everything.
Way to rock that U!!!! Miami Hurricane fan as well and thank you for this video. I've just tuned my 2016 CC R Line and about to start putting bolt on parts soon
New Vids Comin soon man! Thanks for the support!
Josh Taylor I've just added a APR Intake on it yesterday and so far it's running strong
Some driving footage would be nice!
Thanks for the info. Looking to make this upgrade soon.
Thanks for the vid. Do you have a manual or automatic? How is it passing cars and merging onto the freeway?
"I drive spirited..."
Yeah, don't we all!
Stage 1 tune only unlocks power that VW hid. The EA888 engine is easily capable of 300 reliable horsepower. Remember, VW's first water cooled engine was a diesel, so petrol blocks are built tough. The latest generation golf is 292hp stock, with the same engine that is in the Tiguan.
Except that it isn’t; the head is wildly different in the Tiguan.
Great info, thanks! Definitely looking forward to getting it.
Don't listen to the people making fun! Thanks for the video man, this review was very helpful! Thanks!
Jere Wall appreciate it.
With the apr tune, do you have to do the tcu or dsg tune since it's an automatic? I know unitronic does it and it's another 650$ on top of the stage 1 Ecu tune
I had APR tune on a 2008 Wolfsburg for years and never had a problem.
MUCH better to have spinning tires than strain on the drivetrain. Tires are easy to replace, drivetrain and transmissions are not.
Hell yea thanks for the information yearsss later much help still
It's been a while since you post this. Have you experienced any issues?
I just bought a Golf GTI MK5. Do you recommend APR stage 1 with a PCV delete or any other update in general for maximum reliability? I would like to have a stage 1 ONLY, not even change the intake if possible. Would this be reliable with proper and careful maintenance?Thanks in advance and thanks for your review !
My 2007 GTI was Stage 2+ and I sold it with 304,000km on it (tuned at 98,000km). I had full exhaust and intake. Solid engine and transmission mounts. And solid brass shifter link bushings for the manual. Eventually the clutch needs replacement (stock is fine, you dont need an upgrade). And replace shocks, if its higher mileage (180,000 km).
How much was the tune? And how did you flash the tune?
great video, cheers
I’m about to do a stage 1 tune on my q50. Is there any chance that me getting it tuned could cause problems?
Hey guys, any idea of 0-100 and 1/4 miles time after stage 1 tune? Thinking to do it for my b9 a4 ea888 gen 3 2.0t which is now 252 hp
Hey Josh, did you also do an TCU upgrade from APR or only the ECU upgrade? did you feel that the transmission is being more responsible after the tune?
koiminx unfortunately there is no tcu upgrade for the 1.8t platforms
Thanks for the information
I did the stage 1 apr time on my B9 Audi S4. Definitely recommend changing the oil every 3-5k miles instead of waiting till the car tells you you need it.
how much did it cost you to service it each time?
The B9 A4 (252hp variant) has the same pistons from the 2015 Audi S3.
Where did you get your paddle shifters?
Any issues and problems since this video. Also did u upgrade the spark plugs and gapped them accordingly to tune?
Very important to gap the plugs according to the tune.
these days I hope to get to do stage 1 too. I will post the result on my channel
Quick question, i got a 15 GLI(DSG) and i wanna try stage 1 but dont know so far if select the 87 or 91, also i'm concerned about gasoline consumption, cause its great to have more power but what about every single day paying more gas is not for me, can u help me with your experience?
pipuchon it gets better mpg if you’re not always pulling
Do you got problems when you need to perform MOT?
Have you completed any oil analysis to determine the necessity of a shortened service interval?
Derrick Muilenburg no. I just follow recommendations and advice from experienced carsmen and technicians focusing on longevity and performance
What car? Did you pull that shirt out of the hamper? I've done it but usually won't film it.
good video! I am considering a stage 1 tune for the Dune I just got. Coming from a MK7 GTI, this car feels like I'm driving a Boat but anyways, I gotta save up a little bit
Did you ever do it to your Dune? I’m curious because I got a Dune also.
Hi... Stage 1 Apr vs Stage 1 revo??? Help mee... Golf 7.5 GTI (withbGpf)
How much did the tune cost?
Hey man could you please make another video of the tune again? Like how fast did you ever go, is the transmission giving any problems or no, do you still take it to the dealership for servicing it, and did you change anything or fix anything after the tune? Thanks man if you could answer them I would appreciate it.
Hey i bought the same paddle shifters from a seller in China… They're terrible :(
I want to do this to my jetta, I just don't know where to get it done or how to?
zagrix go to apr.com and find your local apr dealer. They will do the tune and everything
It's a stage one my guy you won't hurt your car, lol it's a basic run that you can get warrantied. There's people with 500whp on stock 2.0l with no issues
yea it mostly comes down to preventative maintenance
i just got a 2017 alltrack it desperately needs a tune my old eos was stage 2 with all supporting mods made 287whp 310 to the crank
I had an alltrack for about a year and on my second day I got an APR plus tune at the dealership, it made it so much better. I ended up trading it in but I wish I kept it for a commuter car. Now I’m looking for another one 🤦🏼♂️
Are you running dsg tune ?
What car are you talking about?
I have got my GTI MK7 stage 1 tuned (racing line) my problem is I have lost even stock pops and bangs, I was told this is due to the software update and most importantly I feel I have even lost stcok power specially in sports gear which makes me sick about my car now, just regret the tune, I will be going for a checkup in week, just wondering if anyone else faced such issue.
this issue doesnt happen to me as in apr stage 1, instead i do have a akrapovic muffler and a leyo downpipe on stage1 which sounds amazing but ofcourse no pop bang as it is stage 1
You got a microphone! thanks. just bought one of these for what felt like a song . $16k @16k miles. I'm a happy guy. Question: How bad is the torque steer? A little pull, or a lane change?
Justin Gallagher slightly delayed when changing lanes but that's all the turbo lag!
I'm really thinkin about it. So little money for so much power. But I like my warranty, you see. Decisions decisions.
Justin Gallagher talk to your dealer about it. My warrant isn't voided...
Josh Taylor , while I'm tuned, on a 2017 mk7, don't expect the dealer to be so accommodating, when it comes to actually having to cover something, like the turbo or engine internals
My 16 GTI spins its front tires like hell when gassed in the wet at 70 mph. Tried to race a WRX the other day and it was pointless. All season tires are still new too lol.
ravenstylea2 exactly
You need an upgraded diff. Volkswagens always produce crazy torque from small engines, they're prone to torque steer and wheel spin if you don't have an LSD and a good set of tires. Stock tires are eco tires that have silicone filled on the inside to create a stiffer wall and low rolling resistance. APR will tell you that you can use a Stage 1 tune with no other mods required, but I wouldn't recommend it until you get better suspension, tires and diff.
ravenstylea2 i put a wavetrak LSD on mine and its way better now
Get some PSS 235/40/18's they fit on the stock rims fine if you aren't lowered. Get a Dogbone insert, it will reduce wheel spin, and ease into the pedal, if you floor it, you are going to spin in first and 2nd for sure. If the WRX is a new and not modified you should be faster from a rolling start for sure.
I'm pushing 300 torque on my golf and have Pilot super sports and barely spin at all
Servicing your car should be second nature anyway, But the engine in the Golf R mk7 isn't just a remapped Gti engine = It's been worked over to handle 400hp reliably ( Prompting rumours of a Golf R400 ) :D
Most car makers run their engines at a low state of tune anyway, So a stage 1 should only let the engine perform as it should do.
Can't go wrong with regular servicing though :)
Lee .Finney I really REALLY hope we get that R400 or R500. I've seen some already in Brazil but I'm not sure if they are just concept tunes.. I would trade my gti in for one of those
Lee .Finney the golf r 400 was going to have the 2.5 t engine (same as ttrs) but the 2.0 t in the R can handle much more than 400 ie the beetle grc at 550hp.. I so wish they would come out with the wagon version of the r
Nick wray oh wow.. I didn't know that.. I'm not a big fan of the wagons 😬 but you do you! I def like that R.. they are monsters
Nick wray Europe has the Golf R Wagon
good video thanks
Appreciate it
that was gold.
I got 15 gti7 for 3yrs and bit over 100,000 km with jb4. had jb1 on 2yrs and swap to jb4 after. i havent lose any performance however transmissions kicking so bad when Im parking or idling at traffic. Also other problems ... um... If i hit red zones too much, thire some huge gearshift impact when stop the car. heard too much shit about dsg so bit scare, but if thing fails, thats what it is... fuck it .. just drive..
"PROBLEMS WITH THE TUNE?" What is the problem with the tune?
What are you driving? Some FWD POS with worn-out tires? Wheel slipping at 50 mph? Sounds as though your engine, or your hair, or both, are throwing oil onto the tires.
i remember my K04 MK6 GTI would spin thru 3rd gear.. even with good aftermarket tires..
You would need wider rims .
N.J Kaiser
thats te point (or semi slicks r888) or superior perfo street tyres with less incision like ventus rs3
I counted 26 "you know.."
Nice
LMFAO
Mat Pinato Man!!! I didn't notice till I read your post...now I can't even watch it. lmao
maniacalmango haha it's a lot of you Knows in less than 3 mins lol. But I'm thankful for the informative post :)
Mat Pinato I'm considering stage 2 on my passat wagon....sleeper!
Where did you get your paddle shifters? How did you install them?
BlackbirdSR71Fan eBay and bymyself
Josh Taylor did you have paddle shifters on your car from factory? my 2016 1.8tsi doesn't have them and I was told it was only gti and R dsg that have them. But I want them
pacman19912 hey yea the car has to come with them since it means it has a DSG transmission. My 2012 GLI has the shifters as well. Nowadays, almost all cars come with the "auto/manual" mode but it is not the same as the actual DSG transmission that gives you the paddle shifters. Hope that helps!
Awesome
How much did your insurance rates go up after the tune?
It doesn't.
Going stage 1 and will remain to drive normal. Will drive spirited every now and then of course. Knowing this, do you think I can keep my same oil intervals?
Cheuk Lam as a general rule I always change my oil every 3-5k miles regardless; it is the best thing you can do for your car
Cheuk Lam , this depends on what oil you will be running, a very high quality synthetic will be fine at 5000 miles, I've been using liquimoly on mine and it comes out like new oil at 5000
Aaron Lawson 100% agree! Just switched my 2012 GLI and 2015 GTI to liquimolly last month. Def feel the difference. Both cars run excellent
3k regardless, something called fuel dilution.
Cheuk Lam I wouldn’t keep the same intervals just stock anyways...
so what car are you driving?
Can we get a "you know" counter?
Not so. Synthetic oils are very good protecting engines. A stage 1 APR tune actually drops temp by 10 Celsius having your car actually run cooler than before the tune. This helps with engine oil life. If you only drive it hard every now and then and considering the already mentioned, you be fine for the standard oil change interval.
If ypi drive it hard more regularly, then yes. Change it 5000 km earlier.
No... I don't know..,🤣
A lot of wheel slippage? Does your car have the limited slip?
he has a regular golf.... its not a gti. just a golf
@@DamedFilms 🤣🤣🤣
how is wheel slippage attributed as a problem from the tune, when the point of the tune is to add more power...?
Im assuming you have a fwd a3. go quattro if you're going to buy an audi.
The Moeller wheel slippage is insane. I have the golf 1.8t
Thinking about getting apr stage 1 for my 2021 arteon but idk if it’s worth the extra strain
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@@JoshTVids maybe lol I have less than 2 thousand miles on the car and it was 50 grand so like it’s a pretty big investment and to just throw the warranty out like that is kinda sketch lol
He said, “I drive spirited” 🤣🤣 gonna have to use that one
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I've had 2 new VW's APR tuned with stage 2 high torque. 1 used car as well. Driving over 60k on the new cars and over 100k on the used one and no chip related problems. 5K oil chaing intervals, decreased spark plug interval due to the shorter lifespan of the upgraded plugs that should be used with a tune. All other maintenance standard.
The one exception is that my golf R clutch could not handle the power of the APR tune... this is not a deficiency with the software, it's testament to it's power and VW's penny saving on the clutch. I expected as much and upgraded to a OEM SACHS option with the stage 2 tune.
APR is as quality as the stock tune, just aiming for different things.
Ben Ramin a
How is transmission so far? Any slip?
DJ Ustan my 1.8 tfsi TT with an apr k04 turbo tuned to 320hp slipped like made before I got a new sports clutch fitted. So I would think this porbs did to? I dunno what he's running just stumbled upon this video.
Nice points on the car mate. Check out the 2017 GTI Clubsport on my channel if you like!
Both APR ECU and JB4 Tuner are reliable products. These companies don't tune beyond the vehicles engineering limiitations. Yes, your engine may last 20,000 miles less long, but who's going to keep their car for 250,000 miles, anyways.
This is the exact reason I switched from Japanese cars over to German. Nicer interiors, way better performance, and after 7-8 years I’m ready for a new car either way.
gonna stage one my wagon in two days
These engines and Trip can handle stage 1 easy.
YOU KNOW!!!
tyne and got the tyneee you know the tyneeee
AdemJashari56 😂
wheel slippage we are looking forr where yall the drifters out there 😅.
Do you have an Instagram?
All about the 🙌🏼 5-0
It’s all about the U
How is it now if you still have it?
No problems. But I crashed my car a couple weeks ago lol.
@@JoshTVids :( gone for good?
I did the APR 87 tune on a 2016 Golf TSI SE Auto ... Night and day difference ... makes the car fun to drive while running on 87!!! plenty of power ! better MPG ,this tune is really how the car should have came from factory .. Also Avoid Malone , their tune for the TSI SUCKS! and you will be left hanging with no support, just excuses and BS emails . Then when you ask for a refund , you get only part of your $$ back , you will be left with a shitty tune that needs 91 and make the car run like CRAP! Ask me my experience on this and I will show/tell you .
Manny Mayhem hey, good to know.. who/what is Malone??
anymore updates on your car after apr 1?
I just got my first ever GTI and I love it..I wanna do a stage 1.. but I'm writing u cause it's ALL ABOUT THE UUUUUUU.. WE fucked Florida state up man hahahah.. I want Tate Martell to be our QB... Our QB Williams went to the high school near me Central Gwinnett High... But he isn't as Good as Tate.. but since he beat FSU this last weekend he will stay the starter SMH
Dude has to play football.
is your's stage 1 87 or 91?
koiminx 91
after the tune, do you notice the transmission being more responsive? do you think you can make a video about the transmission, downshifting/upshifting.
thanks :)
koiminx yes, will be posting a video of the high flow turbo inlet pipe this week then will do a follow up on the tune after
Hey Josh, takes for getting back to me, looking forward to your video! It sucks that canadian version of the mk7 golf tsi doesn't have paddle shifters.
Stage one tune is nothing man and is definitely not a strain on your car, a Audi 2.7 all stock can handle 500 crank hp and 520 tq to the crank reliably..stage 1 and stage 2 are just a tune and stage 3 is a tune with k04 turbos upgraded injectors, fuel pump, stage 2 + clutch kit and intake system and exhaust this is the basics to a stage III build but are all just both on on a stock transmission in stock motor can easily make 450 all wheel horsepower with no problems.. 034 motorsportsat everything you’ll ever need to add performance your Audi including full stage III plus builds
I agree. However, regardless of the severity of a tune, having protective measures does nothing but prolong the longevity of the engine. You cant argue that the tune doesn't put strain on the engine, it certainly does, just to a certain extent.
You know!
What does he mean "thicker tires"? Does he mean wider tires? Obviously he doesn't understand wheels/tire specs for Mk7...there is a range of wheel tire combinations you have to choose from so you don't change the ratio (how many tire revolutions per mile) too much either way from the stock recommended tire size and you'll get speedo error and too high or too low engine rpm at any given speed. Wheel size width choice isn't as critical as long as you don't have wheel rubbing on brake parts or inner and outer fenders also wheel offset is important too for same reason.
But, just use common sense I wouldn't go any larger than 19"x 8.5" MAX which can probably be done but I personally wouldn't due to 1.probable clearance issues and 2.Too low of profile tire for any comfort (if that's important to you)...but it's up to you what sacrifices you're will to make. All this, you'll also have to consider ride height into the mix...it's a process if done right it will be rewarding if done wrong it can be a nightmare (and expensive).
Stage 1 wouldn't put strain on the car...that's what car should be when it's released
I wish you had done better planning about what you were going to say on your video. Second, one should always review what has been recorded (with a neutral party) to check what needs modification; and there is always something that does.
People should do a lot of things. Easy to point fingers when you have 4 subs and no vids
No we don’t know, ya know?, that’s why we clicked the link....
you know
I had the chance to "upgrade" one of these APR tunes, never came across such poorly written maps before not to mention it had the wrong software version flashed. Would have been easier to flash it stock and start from scratch. Junk tune.
That's where you are wrong....APR has been doing this far longer than most other tunes out there...they know what they are doing.
@@mattsmith7379 Yes they know they are screwing the customer.... A decent tuner never puts in different software versions, they tune the version that is supposed to be in there. I am not wrong, I have proof that it's garbage.
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Most misleading video title I've ever seen
I dropped 600 on p zeros to find out they are trash. Fml.
bro u need michelin super sports
So click bait since you have no problems with the tune.
I think I know...
Hey guys, been a while since I made a video. Any suggestions that you guys would like to see?
Josh Taylor driving video will be awsome. I am from canada mk7 1.8t's dont come with paddle shifters steering wheel here. I am thinking of upgrading to one. But if you can show how paddles responds to gear shift in a video that that would be awsome. I want to see if its worth upgrade. Btw awsome videos 👌