How Deadly is Joel in The Last of Us? (Game vs Show)
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- I tried to count how many kills Joel has in the HBO show The Last of Us vs in the game The Last of Us Part I. I compare the two and bring up a few differences among their stories, which for the most part are pretty similar. What did you think of season 1 of this show?
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:21 When You're Lost in the Darkness
2:50 Infected
3:44 Long, Long Time
5:28 Please Hold to My Hand
7:03 Endure and Survive
8:50 Kin
10:28 Left Behind
11:16 When We Are in Need
12:40 Look for the Light
15:06 Summary 
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![[s1] joel having beef with ellie for 9 minutes](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z-NF5RVdDJY/mqdefault.jpg)
Some of you wanted to see the breakdown between Joel's infected vs non-infected kills so here's my count:
~Infected~
The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 4 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness
The Outskirts 21 = 3 Infected
Bill's Town 60 = 0 Long, Long Time
Pittsburgh 6 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand
The Suburbs 21 = 9 Endure and Survive
Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin
Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind
Lakeside Resort 0 = 0 When We Are in Need
Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 6 = 0 Look for the Light
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Game Joel = 123 infected kills
Show Joel = 13 infected kills
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~Non-Infected~
The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 18 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness
The Outskirts 6 = 0 Infected
Bill's Town 0 = 0 Long, Long Time
Pittsburgh 78 = 3 Please Hold to My Hand
The Suburbs 21 = 2 Endure and Survive
Tommy's Dam + The University 40 = 1 Kin
Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind
Lakeside Resort 13 = 3 When We Are in Need
Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 17 = 17 Look for the Light
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Game Joel = 193 non-infected kills
Show Joel = 27 non-infected kills
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And for Ellie's kills:
~Infected~
Bill's Town 0 = 1 Long, Long Time
The Suburbs 2 = 1 Endure and Survive
Left Behind DLC 15 = 1 Left Behind
Lakeside Resort 28 = 0 When We Are in Need
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Game Ellie = 45 infected kills
Show Ellie = 3 infected kills
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~Non-Infected~
Pittsburgh 3 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand
Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin
Left Behind DLC 13 = 0 Left Behind
Lakeside Resort 18 = 2 When We Are in Need
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Game Ellie = 39 non-infected kills
Show Ellie = 2 non-infected kills
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uhhhh john wouldn't really waste the bullet on that soldier who was turning since joel isn't the merciful type and would likely spare his bullet for survival
and I argue that the action is more believable than something like the show where NOTHING happened to bill's town and i especially don't like how the infected aren't a threat that much like The Walking Dead
and joel arguably isn't a villain in that ending... REMEMBER, TLOU1s ending and 'cure' was left ambiguous or your own interpretation but in TLOU2, Neil Cuckman wanted to paint joel as a whole evil villain when the cure was going to 100% work even though TLOU1 never suggested this... the fireflies from the 1st game where going to kill a 14 year old girl with no consent in that matter to give out a cure even though that would be impossible even if the cure did work but now in TLOU2 the cure wouldve 100% worked and how this genius of a scientist wouldve gotten a cure within HOURS even with barely any resources and knowledge on it.... abbys father is a d3mbf3ck and I love how the 2nd game wanted to picture him as a suck kind and caring person by saving a zebra even though he was going to kill a girl who gave no consent to it but even if she was awake and gave 'consent' she can't do that because she's just a 'child' and there could be more solutions to it with time but the 'fireflies' aren't good people
side note: I love how abbys father transformed his clothes from 'green' to 'blue' especially how his room went from 'dirty' to 'clean'... Neil Cuckman is a living form of a paragon
@@godzillazfriction Damn bro you are an angry teen
@@TheSwilkos how is that me being angry you boring turd
I'm disappointed show joel didn't have a scene where he cuddled with a brick or bottle. We all know he loves bricks and bottles more than he does Ellie and even Sarah.
Lmao
He misses his contractor days
@@LikeAChameleon hahaha bricks and bottles, just another day for a contractor lol
Or even craft a Molotov in the show
I made your like count 555 (:
Love the juxtaposition of Joel fighting for his life while Bill and Frank live their best lives together
Yeah that episode gave a much needed happy story.
@@gracecairns9747 well done? Yeah. Much needed? Eeeeh
@@riastradh its nice to have contrast in a setting where usually everyone is suffering
@@bambi20082148 yeah. But I prefer the characters I’m spending time with to get happy moments as opposed to a whole backstory episode that means nothing and takes a character away
@@riastradhoh I need happy endings boo woo woo
Now we do the differences between Joel’s kills in the first game and Ellie’s kills in the second game
Ellie killed a lot of mfs, she could definitely beat Joel.
yes JOEL will be brutally killed in Season 2 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ellie killed around 15% of the remaining population of Seattle
Im betting on ellie
ellie's probably got more kills since the second game is longer
A small nickpick that I have with the show is when the cannibal dude refers to Joel as a "Crazy man" since he only killed one in their group barely and in self defense.
I kind of took it like the arrogance of crooks/criminals who almost feel offended that someone had the gall to stand up for themselves and serve them a nice dessert as payback. David being as nuts as he was - it’s believable that he’d think Joel was the crazy one for daring to protect himself and Ellie, and give those guys what they deserved
@@randombrokeperson you are absolutely right! How did I not realize?!
It isn't a "small" nickpick, the show is full of those, it's really hard to understand how many people enjoyed, completely disrespected the source material...
I remember David said to Ellie that they sent some of their men to the city for supplies and almost all of them got killed by Joel, about 30 I think
The same guys that attack you at the hospital
david’s men are the same hunters that attack you after bill’s chapter, joel killed a lot of them
The contrast between Bill's storyline in the game and show is hilarious
What do you mean it's beautiful
Well, Joel felt a lot less violent in the show than he is in the game, but still, considering how grounded in reality the show feels, its crazy that he killed 40 people/infected
'how grounded in reality the show feels' - i wouldn't really say that it's that grounded in reality
To be fair infected aren't in the show.
@@Kendorable ummmm just no
@@Kendorable give me examples and I'll debunk why the show isn't 'MoRe gRoUnDeD iN rEaLiTy'
@@godzillazfriction a man in his fifties being worn down and more tired and disabled after 20 years of apocalypse
I can't belive joel didn't say his iconic line "We truely are the last of us Ellie" after killing 50 random guys with a brick in the show. Zero outta ten. Nice video tho my guy :D keep it up!
I know right? Missed opportunity to not include that line in the show smh. And thanks!
@@epiccakesgaming you know, if you are looking for video ideas, a tlou2 or uncharted 4 melee only playthrough might be interesting...
When does he say that in the game?
@@Jack-ee6hr he doesn’t, ‘‘twas a joke
@@samjackson9560 Ellie says the last of us in one of the trailers.
the transition between ep3 and bill's town had me dying
same 💀💀joel over there fighting for his life in multiple encounters against infected and bill and frank are just sipping wine chillin
@@sam_apollo1187sipping 🍷 popping 💊
As I played the games in 2013, I didn't think much of him being in his 50s.. But as I'm now in my 30s, there's no way I would have Joels strenth and stamina in 20 years. I'm glad that the adaption didn't make him an unstopable old hulk. I was a bit concerned that they weren't going to make him brutal, but it makes sense that they were leading up to the bloodbath in episode 9.. If he was killing countless men each episode it wouldn't have that punch at the end.
ha, as someone in his 50s, and not a gamer, I think of these in even more extreme terms. Anything anywhere close to the game would have been over-the-top cartoonish in the series. A handful of deadly encounters in wartime, irl, will get you a well-deserved medal. A videogame is an entirely different thing. I think during the game, many players got extra feels after adrenaline jolts during gaming phases, and will complain they don't get the same impact from the series. That's because while sitting on a couch passively watching, the video game action would just look laughable. As we old timers might say, like a Saturday morning cartoon.
Well if you were forced into hard labor, hikes for miles, ect, you would gain some strength and stamina. Definitely not nearly as much as in a game, but you'd be surprised with what the human body can adapt to. Plus it's important to note that he had a laborious job before.
@@greilthelegendaryhero252 it's more the damage over time than the getting stronger aspect. Joel's likely taken a lot of damage over the years, as you age it catches up with you... and without access to medical assistance bruises and fractures/bumps ect would turn into a struggle and pain.. but he's a video game character..I gotta give Leeway to that..
But think crouching on your knees/climbing up objects/swimming.. the basics. The vast majority of 50 year old men aren't going to finish this journey 😅
@@traviscue2099 crazy part is that how the hell is he so fit and buff in an apocalypse ? They barely have any food and if it were real he would be skinny af within few months . Aint no way eating some hunted meat here and there going to keep you thay fit and strong in 50s
I'm way stronger in my mid/late forties than I ever was in my twenties and thirties. Old man strength is an actual thing. It helps that I have been a laborer that entire time and that has kept me fit.
I replayed the mission 3 times just to give David what he really deserved and it still felt like it was not enough. Really had me caring about some pixels
The bill’s town section vs show was legit hilarious great work
In both the game and show, when Joel says "you'll just come after her" man....shit gets me every time
Show was horrible. Bella Ramsey as ellie? With her cringe personality 😂
Can’t believe they cut out so much of the buildings and subway scenes with Joel, Ellie, and Tess.
Bloater fight with Bill . We got gay bed fights with Bill instead
I genuinely had no clue that you were a small youtuber with how good of an idea this video was and how entertaining it was you have 100% earned a sub and like keep up the good work brother
Thank you so much glad you enjoyed it!
I love when Joel Said, it's Joeling time. Best line ever
Dead meme
@@s3xylegend26 like you. You died
@@s3xylegend26 i love when s3xylegend said “its s3xylegending time” and s3xylegended all over the place
@@applejuice2949 💀👍
@Rags666 I love it when Rags666 said "it's 💀👍time" and 💀👍ed all over the place
They made Joel alot less deadly and harmful in the show
To me, I think that's because they wanted the masses to really love him and not think he's a massacring psychopath
But also Pedro Pascal is too wholesome for that so
It’s not really believable for Joel to kill as much people as he did in the game
@@nich2632 Yeah but it is believable if he killed like 75+ people with guns or something
@@astora8768 but we did see that he is very capable of doing that if needed
@@aleksii_ true
The last 2 episodes really showed me how deadly and psychopathic Joel is.
I think I like Troy Baker’s Joel a bit more so then Pedro’s. However, they are both pretty good. Each bringing their own touch to the character.
Well no shit
If you have to think about that... I don't know. 😂😂
lmao the bill's town comparison is so funny. i love the new bill and frank story :,)
I feel alot of people in the comments think that the show is more grounded because of this and that the game has a bunch of NPCs to kill just for gameplay but its also a plot point. Its remarked on many times in the game about how Joel kills an unusual amount of people and that he has remarkable skills that everyone else doesnt. NPCs are scared of him and confused by lines like "there better have been an army in that truck" "the others were slaughtered by a crazy man" and "your friend killed how many people?" Along with "The others are dead, some f*ckin tourist took them out" "how the hell did they manage to take them all out" and Ellies line of "at least theyre scared of us". I feel they could have easily incorporated Joels brutality and intimidation into the show by ackowledging how odd it is he's so skilled and having his actions back it up.
People are suprised a 50 yo guy can move and be so active but its not odd to me because I have a friend who's 61 and he carves headstones for a living he's not buff but he is fit if you saw him you'd think he was in his 40's it's not impossible for someone of his age to be "productive" like Joel but I guess a bunch of gamers wouldn't know anything about staying fit ig
@@Cuunke Yeah people also seem to forget that for 20 years he's been actively running and fighting while smuggling unlike most people not in an apocalypse.
Before you leave the quarantine zone, you can “interact” with two guys standing against a wall. One says “what are you looking at?” To Joel and his friend says something along the lines of “shut up, don’t you know who that is? Sorry Joel, we don’t want any trouble.” Implying that Joel is a man who is well known for his ability to absolutely wreck someone.
Joel is very capable, it's why he was hired alongside tess. I dont feel like show Joel would've been trusted to handle Ellie of this were a realistic situation. Joel is a badass in spite of being older, he's still skilled and incredibly strong. Show Joel is just a dude.
I totally agree with you, his brutality is part of his character, they should have kept the sections of Pittsburgh, Seweges, the Dam and University with more action and more kills.
I love the super intense music for the game section with bill cut with peaceful piano for the bill and frank show section I love it just so much
It's 2 50 year old men having sex... how is that not gross?
Nice video. During the long long time section I liked what you were doing with changing the music based on the action in the game vs the show, but I would suggest making the music a little louder as it was kinda hard to tell you were even doing that and I think making the music louder would emphasize the gag more. Just my suggestion though, still a good video
Thanks for the comment. Honestly mixing the audio and getting the sound levels just right is tricky because I’m always worried that I’ll make the music too loud so it’s hard to hear me, but I’ll definitely keep that in mind for my next video! :)
Honestly, no tears were shed from me when it came to the show. I didn’t care about the characters involved with it, seemed real’ corny. But the game, they actually pulled at the heartstrings constantly with all of the betrayal to the small lines thrown in here and there, throughout scenic views mostly.
One of my favorite parts being that they were walking through the museum and having a good father to daughter time within the game.
Another reason why I don’t like the show version is that they have protagonist health - OP view such as when Joel is straight back to fighting even with a deep internal wound unlike Joel from the game who takes a while to recover.
I'd be interested to compare Joel's total game kills to Ellie's from parts I and II
I appreciate the humor injected with the subway hat and the ranch dressing. It doesn't ruin the flow either.. Nicely done sir.
Baaahahahhaa oh my god the bit with bills town where you switch between the two VERY different moods 😂😂 I’m ded
Great video! It truly puts Joel's characterizations into perspective. In the game, to save Ellie, he kills less than 10% of his total. In the show, his count almost doubles. To add to that, game Ellie killed like four times more people than Joel did in the Firefly Lab. This makes their last exchange in the game and in the show leave a different impact.
Because it's a VIDEO GAME. would you have fun only killing 10 guys total in a video game?
The only one you missed Joel only technically killed and that was the passenger of the vehicle which he caused to crash and explode when he shot the driver
This was a really well put together video, really funny
Bills town in the game: mass genocide
Bills town in the show: look at them eating strawberries together aww so cute aww so sweet
I can't believe Rick from The Walking Dead shows up in the last episode, he was so confused and then just vanished
Dude! You deserve millions of subscribers kepp the content up!!
Wake up babe epiccakesgaming just posted a new vid
It makes a ;lot of sense the difference, I mean can you imagine them trying to fit that all into the show and in the game have not all those kills? Its a big difference but a needed one due to the different in video games and shows. btw love this vid :D
Joel was so brutal in the game, and such a bigger badass. However, they can only do so much in the show. Albeit, I see more kills in Resident Evil and other apocalypse shows/media, then I do in this show. So compared to most, this shows action is incredibly tame
I love how you said "now talk!" Like batman does after he beats a criminal into a vegetable
Amazing video bro! Crazy you dont have more subs!
That’s kind of crazy cause on my latest play through, I finished with more or less a thousand kills but that’s cause I went on normal difficulty and did a kill everything play through. the body count gets crazy when you get multi kills on some segments that have infinite infected respawning. There’s one in bills town when you first meet him and another one right before you enter the high school basement.
I like to believe the single change of the infected being more dangerous, had a ripple effect on the psychology of the game characters, making them more desperate and cruel just to survive.
Awesome breakdown sir, it inspired me to do my own kill count where I went all out and got every kill I could in the game. Here's my breakdown.
Throughout the game my count is as follows.
Joel: 193 Infected kills
119 runners
51 clickers
17 stalkers
6 bloaters
255 (insane numbers here) Human kills
15 smugglers
27 fedra soldiers
123 Pittsburgh hunters
28 bandits (tommy's dam chapters)
33 cannibals
26 fireflies (including Marlene)
3 doctors (yep...)
Ellie: 68 infected kills (includes gameplay kills where she got a couple with takedowns)
38 runners
25 clickers
4 stalkers
1 bloater
62 humans kills
3 Pittsburgh hunters (1 in the cutscene and 2 where she sniped them in the plaza)
59 cannibals
I'm confident I got every kill I could here and even went out my way at some points like where Ellie's getting chased by the cannibals you can go back and shoot the two who come after her.
Also this was done on grounded. Safe to say the game went a bit overboard with the violence and I can understand why the show toned it back a bit for realisms sake.
Whoa that is awesome. Insane dedication dude!
@EpicCakesGaming haha thanks! I kinda want to see the minimum next but there's only so much grounded one can take
Sweet video man!
Love the videos man!
Great video once again!
Thank you!
love your editing it made me laugh and i didnt know joel was a pacifist on hbo
Great video, but I think you should have made separate lists for infected vs. human kills.
100% agree, they both have very different moral quandries.
one thing. Joel had insanely more kills and destructiveness back when he and Tommy was still in the fireflies
Pretty sure only Tommy was a firefly but they were both hunters if I remember correctly
Great video idea 🔥
It’s a little funny Ellie has more kills in the game than Joel in the show.
Magnificient Work !
One little thing I noticed is that whenever the show recreates a scene from the game 1:1, they flip the scene horizontally
By the time I was at bills town I had 477 kills
I feel like the show had less violence to make that final hospital scene have more effect on the viewer
You actually did miss a kill. In the HBO Show when Ellie shoots the man who grappled Joel in Episode 4, you didn’t count when Joel finished him off
Probably should've explained that one a bit more but it's actually counted here as show kill #8 (Around 5:37 the guy who drops his knife is the one that Ellie shoots and Joel kills him off screen)
Well, the answer to "who's more deadly" it's pretty obvious to me. In the videogame, when other groups or enemies encounter the aftermath of Joel's actions, they often assume that it was the result of a confrontation between two rival groups rather than the work of a single individual.
Joel in the game is literally a one man army.
P.S: I edited the comment to make my point clearer
“The 76 lookout guys! Some fuckin’ tourist killed ‘em, killed all of them!” Joel is fr the John Wick of the apocalypse
Great video! Coulda sworn you would have had more subs than what you currently have with the quality this video shows! One suggestion I have is that the ding sound you used often was so loud and harsh to my ears! Otherwise, great vid!
Thank you! I’ll definitely keep that in mind. Getting the volume of the audio just right and balancing voiceover, music, and sound effects is always something I’m trying to improve :)
I don't know how many hours you must have spent on this, good job. Epic video
im new here and seeing your videos i really like it and gotta say your great
Thank you for this.
The constant tone shifts between clips of Bill’s Town and Long Long Time is unreasonably funny.
How was I not already subscribed wtf?!??
Haven't watched the show yet but it looks promising, also you jokes made me laugh.
I think that the taming down of the violence makes sense. It's better to only kill when you have to in scenarios where bullets and people might be limited. Also the show focuses a lot on the story, and doesn't have to include gameplay segments. While it is sad that the show had to cut some content, the new content it added much makes up for it.
Gameplay shows how brutal of a person Joel actually is. In the game there are moments where you fight where Ellie comments how brutal Joel is.
And the show cuts out the part of the game where Joel teaches Ellie how to shoot a rifle and Ellie protects Joel while he clears out an area. That moment was a personal moment of Joel teaching Ellie to defend herself and others and they totally cut it out.
I was surprised by how much they toned down the combat skills of Joel in the show. In the game, he was like Liam Neeson's character Bryan Mills from the movie Taken. Incidently, based on the Taken trilogy, I think Liam Neeson would've made an excellent Joel. And I'm frankly a little surprised that apparently nobody approached him for the role.
But I guess it makes sense they toned down Joel's character in the show, given that in the show he's 56 years old, and while he certainly isn't a pansy by any means, a 56 year old man isn't gonna have the same physical capability and resilience he did when younger. Age catches up with everyone.
What I did think was a mistake on the part of the show is it rushed through the first season. They should've stretched it over two seasons, I think.
I hate the fact that the infected are barely in the show and theyre almost treated as aliens to me the way the clickers jump and move. I know theyre very twitchy and look otherworldly but i don’t remember them being able to leap like 15 feet to you
@@krustyman5151 - To quote Joel: "I know you wish things were different, I wish things were different, but they ain't."
The way Joel just flings Ellie to the ground is hilarious. Nice first impression indeed Joel.
can you add a footnote in the description of how the different killcounts of humans vs infected as well? these totals are cool but id like to know the total non infected killed.
I can do that! A few people have mentioned this so I'll pin a comment with that info :)
You forgot about the two nurses in the surgeon room. Oh wait… maybe that was just me.
Nah, I did it both times I've replayed the game, not sure about my first time bc I was so young. Going along with an operation that will kill a kid without their knowledge and consent while also not being a guarantee of making a vaccine is just unforgivable for me. Didn't hesitate either time. Though I did find out you can stab the surgeon with his scalpel if you walk up to him, I never knew you could do that.
I can't believe Tess and Joel didn't say their famous lines "We need just one more big score Aurther. Have some God damn faith!" Truly disappointing 2 bananas out of 10 grapes.
I may not like the show very much but you did a great job with this video. Keep up the good work!
Fun fact, you only HAVE to kill like 20 people (without glitches)
The reverse uno card made me lol.
In the game, Joel is a force to be reckoned with. In the show, he’s a regular apocalypse-survivor guy who just keeps getting lucky.
raja's arcade in left behind might be a call back to another naughty dog game uncharted drakes fortune and is a call back to eddy raja the best villian
I like my Joel's being able to kill bloaters.
That’s n amazing juxtaposition the different telling of Bill and Frank rofl
…but I’m glad I got both versions
Well, he’s no Part 2 Ellie, but he’s no slouch…
Part 2 Abby**** before she was captured
Yeah, he's worse
Love the emotional damage...that's like the other name for this game.
Holy shit those bells were loud
I literally just noticed first and last episodes make the full sentence of fireflies. fuck.
Number of kills in the game can be found out by taking the number of most people possable to kill and least people to kill, then add them together then divide by two, if a decimal round down.
Now, how many times did Joel got killed ?
Game: Yes Show: Nil
In real no spawning ... calculate your move (how cool would it be to start over, can dodge my ex next time pretty easy)
How many times did Joel get killed? None in my playthrough and none canonically.
Joel was so much more bad ass in the game. The show softened him a lot, and Pedro Pascal is too lovable to come off that stoic and dangerous.
definitely, I think some lines are way too soft compared to Troy Baker's performance. Examples: "You'd just come after her" and "I'll pop your goddamn (Although this line was slightly different in the show) knee off". His stance is also not very scary, for lack of a better word.
I think thats the point
@@anordinarytrashcan5071 and I think this is actually better for a main character, when watching the game again I found joel kind of ruthless lol
@@tiredSPACE22 i think he became ruthless because he lived through 2 decades in an apocalypse. I think the show made him much more likable and more of a moral character which i guess was what they were going for but I never thought Joel was a moral character and that made him super interesting. The show kinda took that aspect away bc he’s a good guy most of the time except when he needs to kill he becomes evil. I didn’t love that juxtaposition but thats me.
@JonK yeah i get it, for me I really found more likeable an emotionally engaging Joel in the hbo show than the game, I feel like it's more open for me to like him than the version in the game, which i think Joel hbo is more Based on the Joel we see on Tlou part 2
Great job with this video. Gave it a like and you just earned a sub from me!👍
It’s weird that the show and game match almost perfectly except for the bill bit which is a complete departure
That og mw2 reference, tho🤩
Ffup
Enter Psycho Rick
Killing 40 people would put you above most serial killers irl, so honestly still an insane number lmao
Great video. The reason game Joel has way more kills is because of a games need for gameplay. That's like the only reason 😅
4:37 Hold on. Did you just say that Joel has met Frank before? That doesn't line up with the story because Joel didn't know who Frank was when he saw him hanging from the ceiling.
here at 4.33k subs
Joel's bodycount just went dozens higher by the finale.
Do this for Ellie when season 2 comes out
You forgot about the passenger in the truck that was ramming cars chasing Ellie, they definitely in the explosion which Joel caused
I guess the main reason why in the show he isn’t as deadly is because it doesn’t make sense why a construction worker suddenly becomes John Wick. I think they should’ve hinted more at Tommy and Joel leaving special forces or navy seals or something before getting into construction work, I know they said Tommy done tours with the army but at least then they could’ve been more badass. It doesn’t make much sense in the show that Joel is shown being more vulnerable but still manages to wipe out all the fireflies at the end.
20 years of pure violence as he is well known by the fireflies and other groups, make it pretty obvious on why and how he is so good at killing. Especially since he wasnt and isn't a good guy.
that was pretty clear in the game.
Kinda like Rick or Daryl in the walking dead. They had some skills prior to the outbreak, but it's experience during the apocalypse that made them killing machines.
Just like negan or the little abused woman. Even Michonne.
You don’t need military training mandatorily in order to become deadly. Joel has gained experience over 20 years on top of having an innate ability towards surviving any situation. There’s a lot of criminals and war survivors out there that have developed these skills by simply doing it.
Well, in the show they showed in the ep. 1. In Joel's car, he has a fading sticker sticker that say's "Operation Desert Storm Combat Veteran". And it probably means that he has seen a combat during the Operation (he's probably in a tank, probably a driver or some sort). It can added that he knows how to handle a certain situation in combat. And it doesn't mean becoming a former navy seals or whatever, will not make you become John Wick or badass lol. Come on man, HE'S ONLY HUMAN with a 20 years of experience in the apocalypse. Choosing not to fight the other infected or human and just try to run away is one of the best idea. And if Joel is more badass, I don't think thay he will survive for 2 damn decades in the apocalypse.
Joel put the fire in firefly 🔥💀
I would do impassable kills where it’s impossible not to kill them since it’s the only way to move foward towards the gameto, plus cutscenes, but if it’s one that you can easily avoid, that one should be take out since it could be him taking it stealthy
(Don’t read this if you haven’t played or seen the second game) I thought he title said how dead is Joel and my dumbass was like: Pretty dead did you see how hard she hit him 💀
the only one i think you may have missed is in the hbo show, the guy who was with david! ellie used the butcher kn!fe on him! (the man who brought her the medicine)
I think the only thing that is really a discrepancy here is that in the show Joel kills like 5 infected while in the game almost half his kills are infected. To me those kills do not compare 1-1 because the zombies are much more predictable and less deadly due to the lack of guns. Great video though :D liked the comedic comparison in the Bill part
All Joel’s gotta do is pull out a Cloth to heal a Shotgun Blast in the game
0:28 homie didnt tell me there were jumpscares 💀