Many bridges in germany are dilapidated because they have not been renovated for decades. It was only a matter of time before one collapsed due to "Sanierungsstau".
Nope, not complete, the part which was collapsed was planed for renovation, the other two parts (part A and B) were already renewed for 26 Million Euro. Part A and B are probably also damaged so they cant use anymore.
Not true. The bridge was checked. As a result two parts have been already repaired. The collapsed part was scheduled for next year to be repaired. Actually the bridge department is wondering why they couldn't see the imminent danger by their inspections. It is not that there was neglect according to the rules. As a result the rules will have to be changed.
@@V100-e5q It's an issue with the type of bridge. It had the cables that stabilize it within the concrete. Once build you can't check the cables anymore, which is why we don't allow that building style anymore. The first time you know there is an issue with the cables means the bridge has already collapsed. At the time it allowed for wider gaps without pillars and was vastly cheaper to build than previous methods.
I was sitting in the last tram some 9 minutes before the bridge collapsed. I came back from a friend in the Neustadt (New Town district) and wanted to get out of the city back to my little village. I got the news in the morning and was f´´king baffled. It´s a really important bridge for Dresden´s traffic. The most important trams used to run over there and it was the best and fastest connection between the old town and the new town districts. And we have the impending alert of flooding, if you´ve seen the reports CZ and Poland.
@@vomm nein Meister, ich bin Teil einer großen Verschwörung nur gegen dich. Alles was du liest ist eine Lüge!!! Ne Spaß, versuch einfach mal n bisschen Kompetenz dafür zu entwickeln, was im Internet echt ist und was nicht. Das sollte ziemlich hilfreich sein. Ich kann dir meine Bahnverbindung zeigen, wenn du möchtest. Aber du solltest derweil schon erkannt haben, was du für Bullshit von dir gegeben hast. :)
They were actually hard pressed to remove most of the rubble before the water rushed in, in order to avoid an artificial damm forming at this place, which would have caused the water to spill into the city. Luckily, they managed. In Germany, the flooding isn't so bad and will probably be ok. Other countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Austria or Romania were not as lucky 🥺
Please consider: Any engineering will fail if not properly maintained. The problem with this type of bridge is that they need more care and repair than a stone arc. The other two parts had just been overhauled. This part was scheduled next - but apparently they waited too long. Money issue. If someone gets fired, it will be from the finance department, not the engineering department - if at all.
According to reports I've read many bridges designed 40-70 years ago have not only troubles because of their design using concrete, which might crack, reinforced with steel, which might rust, but they weren't designed to handle today's traffic in the first place: Trucks became many more and much more heavy nowadays. And don't forget that reinforced concrete design is much less than 100 years old, so the older bridges use a technology that was new in the middle of the 20th century. But it's an irony that the bridge which is actually a set of 3 adjacent bridges has had repairs on the other 2 parts recently and the now collapsed part was scheduled for repairs next year, says another report. Bridge collapses don't happen very often, but many of those mid-20th century bridges are in a bad shape now - including some that are part of major autobahn routes. An infamous example is the bridge of the autobahn A1 over the river Rhein at Leverkusen. That bridge had a low speed limit and was closed for trucks over 3.5 tons since 2012 because it was in a bad shape, with all the other cargo traffic having to take detours. Now there finally is a new bridge. Many people point at our previous "conservative" government that absolutely denied taking new debt to finance infrastructure tasks like repairs. Now there is a big backlog of rotten bridges, an underfunded railway system, both local and federal administration working like 1970 instead of going digital, and many more points.
There's not much difference in bridge health between the US and Germany...with the difference that Germany is (was?) better at taking bridges out of service before they collapsed. The US allowed a couple of them to come down on their own while being used over the last years; for example, the Fern Hollow Bridge came down with a bus and a couple of cars on it in 2022. So far, it looks like the failure point of the Carolabrücke was something unexpected, and all health checks were up to standard. But we will have to wait until the cause of the collapse can be determined---at the moment, the fallen segment is under 5 feet of water.
Tja, Germany is beeing americanized, work culture, amintenance of infrastructure and now they try to private everything in germany as well...like in America.
Some years ago our politicians added a debt break („Schuldenbremse“) to our constitution. It limits the state budget‘s yearly deficit. Our bridges have a huge backlog for renovations. Deutsche Welle is the international TV station of the German government.
The main issue is a lack of funding for infrastructure like this. Bridges are generally one of the most well known parts of infrastructure, they are inspected every 2 - 3 years, and this bridge was already known to be long overdue. The issue is that we know the problems, but preserving a public debt to gdp ratio is more important than investing into infrastructure to the government, because it works better for voting intentions. If we are lucky an incident like this might make politicans more interested in actually spending some money on it.
Well mostly our "Der Markt regelt das schon" guy (Christian Lindner FDP) is against taking debt to invest back into the economy. This is the best examble for it: If we invested those milions into the bridge and it didn't collapse, the costs of repairing this collapsed bridge, which is higher wouldn't exist and the traffic jams that increase due to less infranstructure are also costing the state money, because of the transportation of goods
We spend billions and billions for other countries instead of taking care of our own infrastructure. There is zero need to increase the debt because the is more than enough money to fix our infrastructure, education system, digitalisation, etc., etc., etc..
@@Celisar1 Well sure but that money isn't spent here, if we just increase the debt we can keep the benefits we get from aiding certain countries while actually taking care of local infrastructure. It seems like a much better deal considering there's no harm in extra government debt held by the central bank.
The major mistake was made many decades ago when civil engineers were convinced that alcine cement would prevent steel from rusting, as rust is chemically acid. They were wrong. Haircracks in the concret allows water to trickle in and the rust causes the reinforcing steel to expand. Vibrations by more and more heavy and heavier trucks and more traffic in general as had been considered years ago add to the danger.
The Carola Bridge is a prestressed concrete bridge built in 1971 and was an important traffic artery in the city of Dresden. But it is not as if there was no money for the renovation, because in addition to the 190 million euro new bridge construction of the Walschlösschen Bridge, the Albert Bridge and the Augustus Bridge have also been renovated in recent years, and work has been underway since 2019 on the renovation of the three bridge strands of the Carola Bridge. Two of the three bridge strands of the Carola Bridge have been completely renovated, only the last strand on which trams, pedestrians and cycle paths where should be renovated at the beginning of next year. There is money for the bridge renovation, but only one of Dresden's six Elbe bridges can be renovated at a time so that the flow of traffic in Dresden can be maintained. Bridges in Germany must undergo a visual inspection every year and an intensive general inspection every six years. The last major inspection of the collapsed part of the Carola Bridge was in 2021, and the condition was rated as insufficient (3.0-3.4), which is why the renovation of this part of the Carola Bridge was scheduled to take place at the beginning of 2025, and the renovation of the Blaues Wunder Bridge was postponed.
This is in english because this is DW (Deutsche Welle / "German (Radio)Wave"), the government-run foreign TV channel. It's allowed to be government-run because it doesn't address domestic audiences, and for the same reason is primarly in english.
i live literally like 20min from that bridge. it was quite unreal when i heard the news spreading. fortunately i rarely used that bridge in the first place, but currently it's definitely not helping with the flood in the elbe river
The 300 year old bridge next to it has been renovated a few years ago. And the Carola bridge has been getting very bad results in recent safety checks. But for some reason they waited too long. Seeing how suddenly it collapsed we can say it was extremely lucky this happened at 3 am in the morning. If this happened during the day it would have been far worse.
Hey, Ryan! "I thought it might happen in January or somewhere in the USA". Wow! 😲 ... I KNEW you would stare into the camera after this sentence!!! 😂😂😂
Perhaps the people of Dresden should ask UNESCO whether they would reinstate their World Heritage status, which was revoked after the construction of another bridge. Now that they have one less, they may be qualified again.
Road salt destroys concrete and steel. There was a desalination measure about 10 years ago - the concrete was desalinated as deep as posible. But due to undetected damage to the waterproofing, the salt has penetrated to the reinforcement.
In fact, a huge amount of new infrastructure was built in East Germany after reunification, but the bridge was planned and built in the 1970s in the former GDR and should have been replaced long ago. There are also a number of broken bridges in West Germany, but they are closed and then blown up rather than collapsing while traffic is still flowing. The conservative government has barely invested in infrastructure for 16 years and now others are having to deal with these failures.
This kind of problem is typical of GDR concrete buildings, as the cheapest, near by 6:38 components were used, which tend to corrode swifter to CaCO3 than other minerals. It is called concrete cancer.
A few minutes before the collaps, a tram was using the bridge. Its a time window of 3-5 minutes. IF the tram would be to late that morning, it could collapse with the tram on it.
FYI: The video from the surveillance camera is actually a sequence of photos taken at intervals of around one minute. That's why it looks like the bridge disappeared from one second to the next
Weirdest thing about this is that there are still germans unaware that our infrastructure is mostly falling apart. Millions are dumped into restoration efforts, for the roads and bridges to fall apart again just after a few years. And yes, many of us see this as the amarican way. Dont do it right, dont do it good, just make it cheap, so a lot of money can be moved from A to B without any worker benefitting from it... and we are sick of it
but you have to set priorities. After all, they are building cycle paths in Peru and subways in India. Health insurance for the Turks, submarines for the Jews. German taxpayer money given away all over the world So it's clear that you have to save a lot of money in your own country, on your own taxpayers
By the way, there are live cams where you can watch the construction work. At the moment you can't see much because they are also getting floods due to heavy rainfall in the mountains, and a part of the bridge in the water doesn't make for particularly good water drainage.
Bridges in Germany are built to last 50 years. This one had a bit over 50 years. The side for the cars, which did not collapse, was renovated some years ago, and the collapsed part was scheduled to be renovated within a couple of months. It should have been monitored properly, that's the problem.
this is afaik the first time that happend in germany and is super rare all over europe. looks like we can now get compared to the us which is sad - we usually aim for higher standards
I remember a time in the mid-70's when there was a series of collapses of bridges under construction. It turned out that a construction method called "box bridge" ("Kastenbrücke") wasn't very safe or just too new. And there was the Donau bridge of Vienna that collapsed in 1976. There is a Wikipedia article about bridges collapses, listing some European cases among others.
It's a miracle that we don't have many more collapses here. According to Tagesschau, the 25 highest bridges in Germany were tested for their condition: "The Federal Quality Association examined the structural situation of the 25 highest bridges. According to the results, eleven bridges received grades between 3 and 3.5 and are therefore in a critical or inadequate structural condition. These included the Mosel Valley Bridge, the Lösterbach Valley Bridge and the Neckarburg Bridge, which were mainly bridge structures from the 1970s and earlier. For the other half of the bridges, the condition grades were in the range of 2 to 2.9, which corresponds to a satisfactory to sufficient structural condition." The figures are from 2023. If something doesn't happen soon, we'll have more news like this in the future.
The bridge was being renovated for 6 years now, but the part that collapsed wasn't done yet. It's also funny how it is the bride right in front of the tax office and the government of the state 🤣
Normally, Bridges of any kind get checked on a regular Basis. They check, for example, if there are any cracks in the concrete and if the concrete takes on a reddish colour, which would imply that the steelbars in it are beginning to rost. I don't know the actual structure of Bridges that are leading over water, but i think they are having similar build like our extremely high Train- or Autobahn Bridges. So they have to be checked on a regular basis, too. If the people who are investigating the collaps are finding at fault that could have prevented the Collaps before it happens, the people that are checking Bridges are about to get an extremely bad day, especially because they have to potentially pay everything 😀 (Did just read it, so it was corrosion of the steel in the Bridge. If that Corrosion is visible on any part of the outside concrete of the Bridge, there are people getting fired and a Company getting fined).
Der was 1 minute and 1 second between the camera slides as it collapsed. So not less, but just over a minute. But the collapse itself probably happened in under a minute then
Sadly, the German Goverment spends lots and lots of money for other Countries, but our infrastructure is not enough Money there. Same goes for Schools and local and long-distance public transport...
8:02 Interestingly even after the bridge collapsed there were people driving over the bridge. I wonder if they wondered about something has changed i.e. the lighting of the bridge on one side was totally missing.
There is also a bridge here where everyone is waiting for it to collapse... the buses are already crossing the highway to avoid it (!!) but no one seems to have any idea how to replace it!!
The cause is still unclear. The reason is most likely something that was not on the radar. While some damages of this bridge were well known - and already repaired on sections A and B - there was also a permanent surveillance system for the known damages on section C installed. Which gave however no warnings before the collapse. Probably a combination of a design failure and corrosion.
Salt corrosion is the still main suspect for now, as it is clear that the steel rope within the bridge itself collapsed. The design failure was just using "Spannbeton", because you will never be able to thoroughly check the steel rope again after it is embedded in the building. (To compare how such a thing breaks down, watch some of the Arecibo drone footage, and think of it being enveloped in concrete.)
The funny part is that it got renovated partly for many years and i had to drive different routes just to get to my destination . It stood for like max 5 years lmao
Hi Ryan, the symbol on the sign at 6:03 represents the Frauenkirche (Church of Our Lady). You definitely should react to a video about it, it has a very interesting (post WW II) history.
@RyanWass thank you very much. I had PC stuff to do and was so tired. But your reactions made me laugh and awake. Sorry we think of USA when s. th. collapsed. In news there a mainly western world "accidents". I am sure world wide your engineers are not the worst. 😂
More than 42,000 US bridges 'structurally deficient' in 2024 - but number has fallen. The number of US bridges in need of repair or replacement has reached nearly 221,800, according to analysis by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association (ARTBA).6 Sept 2024 Peace out.
@@Alltagundso the concrete constructions we build in the last century were never designed to last much longer (80years is a common number) but no one really cares about that.
@@Alltagundso Inspectors rate bridges using a 0-9 scale, with 7 or above considered “good.” A “poor” rating reflects a 4 or below on any portion of a bridge’s main components. A mid-range rating is considered “fair.” About 42,400 U.S. bridges are in poor condition, carrying about 167 million vehicles each day, according to the federal government. Those poor bridges are on average 70 years old. Of those poor bridges, four-fifths have problems with their substructures (the legs holding them up) or their superstructures (the arms supporting their load). And more than 15,800 of the poor bridges also were listed in poor shape a decade ago, according to AP’s analysis. Iowa has the greatest number of poor bridges, followed by Pennsylvania, Illinois and Missouri. Peace out.
Yeah, well, good old German engineering. If there's no maintenance and upkeep for several decades, that doesn't mean much anymore. There's two bridges in my city that are under very close watch, too. One of them will be shut down in November
Loved your response to "...somewhere in the USA, but not here." I "LoLed", so to speak. 😅 Seriously, that's actually been a strange statement. Still, he's right with his other statement that everything has been neglected. In fact, that's the reason for the collapse of this bridge. Simply a lack of proper maintenance... Thanks for reacting to what's going on over here.
Wenn die betreffenden Infrastrukturfinanzmittel von rechten unfähigen Bundesverkehrsministern wie Dobrindt und Scheuer großenteils nach Bayern gesteuert wurden, um für den Machterhalt der CSU helfend einzugreifen und demnach für Deutschland und Ostdeutschland nicht mehr allzuviel übrigblieb - wundern wir uns dann? If the infrastructure funding in question was largely channelled to Bavaria by right-wing incompetent federal transport ministers such as Dobrindt and Scheuer in order to help the CSU stay in power, leaving not too much left over for Germany and eastern Germany - are we surprised?
The bad thing about this collapse was that heavy rains and floodings were expected the following days and the pieces of the structure had to be removed fast so it wouldn't cause further damages with the floodings.
It was huge Luck nobody get hurt. This is the side where have a great look a the historical Part of the Dresden. The Tram is traveling too and final some weeks before there was a open Air Cinema. At this the show Movies, but also have a lot of Musican playing there. Some are in Germany well knowen and so the Bridge is full with people only for listing the music.
actually there is some more detailed footage of the collapse available - from a CCTV installed on a bridge (pun intended) of a ship moored at the quay nearby
Thats just the beginning. The whole infrastructure here is broken, old or damaged. In my city, they had now to force brake down an old bridge because it was just a matter of days of collapse to avoid an upcoming train crash. Now 150 Bridges need to fast rebuild or more collapse soon. Streets full of potholes, cracks and rough. Construction sides take forever and quick fixes were mad very bad and just take 6-12 months to get broken again. Train lines also old and limit on speed. Just all money for 3 - 4 Highspeedlines. Train is never on time. Same for Bus. Internet and mobile network is slow or bad available. They build more fiber now but in bad quality.
2:20 Ryan, German engineering just means, that tings break the day after warranty expired :D :D :D It happened some day before the rain let the rivers rose in that region.
Das Problem ist, das gerade Spannbeton mit der Zeit die Festigkeit verliert. Dazu kommt noch das der Zersetzung Prozess der Spannseile durch Streusalz und Wasser gefördert werden. In den 1970 ger Jahren galt Spannbeton als das Nonplusultra, Design ging vor allen anderen
@gdok6088: It's nice how you show off your ignorance. This bridge was designed and built in the 1970ies. At this time Germany was divided. You can show your wisdom an tell how you would have inspected the bridge to find out how safe it is. Years ago I worked on electronic bridge health monitoring systems. I´m not a professional in bridge construction, but it looks to me like a concrete bridge with steel prestressing. So it´s easy to check the concrete from outside ... but it´s rather difficult to "monitor" the steel rope health inside the concrete. Now, if they used the wrong (or not perfectly unified) steel or the contcrete contains acids that destroys the steel over years ... then the ropes break .. and the concrete itself can not survive. The days before there was a fast decrease in temperature .. so theoretically possible the inside of the bridge was still warm, while the outside cooled down and thus the steel could non maintain it´s prestressing.
german spokesperson: people might get killed so the bridge is closed american spokesperson: the current state of the construction might negatively impact your bride crossing expiriance
It's an heritage from the 16 years of Merkel were nearly any Money was spend into roads or Bridges. They would have needed Money from tolls from the Highways but Merkels Party was Always cosy with Transport companies and so Germany Had the lowest toll in the EU for years. That Money was Missing.
Das Geld ist durchaus dagewesen, floß aber nach Bayern, und schau mal, wer die Bundesverkehrsminister gewesen sind - Überraschung! Überraschung?? The money was there, but it went to Bavaria, and look who the federal transport ministers were - surprise! Surprise??
germany is choked by its own bureaucracy and governments (the current and the last one), who spends money all over the world but let the infrastructure (not only that) decay. The money seeps away in the government offices and never reaches the target. on top of that some bridges are owned by companies like the Deutsche Bahn, who seem to just don't care. Where i live is a bridge over the Elbe river (the main route for commuter traffic and a train line between regions of 2 federal states), which is known to be in a bad condition and needs replacement for 3 decades now.
In Saxony we have a government of christian democrats, social democrats and greens. They all follow the green agenda: increase taxes and inflation and give all the money you need for infrastructure not for infrastructure but for aid to other countries. So we gave this year 80 billions for aid to other countries, e.g. bicycle lanes in Peru.
Do current affairs videos do well usually? I enjoy to see you reacting to things but after this has been up and down the news for a week now i couldn't care less what anyone thinks. I don't see what you can bring to the table in this case. Your audience on this channel is probably mostly german and i'd not be surprised if they all had enough of the topic for now.
Our bridge collapsed due to corruption. Engineers and politicians ignored internal rust because they couldn't measure how bad it already was and didn't even try to predict the bridge's lifespan. The council meeting where they discussed this is public. If you can't measure danger, it's too dangerous, plain and simple.
The Germany you know from videos is the past. Germany is currently being destroyed economically (politically) but also socially, etc. The decline is starting slowly but surely...
When you had put the last 20 years of global budget optimizing immigration, that's what happen. It's only a matter of time until Germany decide they have to invade France agaaaaaain 🤣
Many bridges in germany are dilapidated because they have not been renovated for decades. It was only a matter of time before one collapsed due to "Sanierungsstau".
It's sad when bridges collapse which are for trams or cyclists.
@@vomm yay for car centric politics!!!
well to be honest.. this is Dresden. it's a DDR bridge.
As far as I know: They set priority to bike lanes and flower pots located ON the bridge instead of maintenance of infrastructure.
And don´t forget the "Schwarze Null".
Fun fact that bridge was planned to be completly checked and reinforced next year😅
😂😂
Nope, not complete, the part which was collapsed was planed for renovation, the other two parts (part A and B) were already renewed for 26 Million Euro. Part A and B are probably also damaged so they cant use anymore.
Not true. The bridge was checked. As a result two parts have been already repaired. The collapsed part was scheduled for next year to be repaired. Actually the bridge department is wondering why they couldn't see the imminent danger by their inspections. It is not that there was neglect according to the rules. As a result the rules will have to be changed.
@@V100-e5q It's an issue with the type of bridge. It had the cables that stabilize it within the concrete. Once build you can't check the cables anymore, which is why we don't allow that building style anymore. The first time you know there is an issue with the cables means the bridge has already collapsed. At the time it allowed for wider gaps without pillars and was vastly cheaper to build than previous methods.
The last major inspection was in 2021.
I was sitting in the last tram some 9 minutes before the bridge collapsed. I came back from a friend in the Neustadt (New Town district) and wanted to get out of the city back to my little village. I got the news in the morning and was f´´king baffled. It´s a really important bridge for Dresden´s traffic. The most important trams used to run over there and it was the best and fastest connection between the old town and the new town districts. And we have the impending alert of flooding, if you´ve seen the reports CZ and Poland.
G'schichten aus'm Paulaner Garten 😂
@@vomm Lass Dich impfen.
@@vomm nein Meister, ich bin Teil einer großen Verschwörung nur gegen dich. Alles was du liest ist eine Lüge!!! Ne Spaß, versuch einfach mal n bisschen Kompetenz dafür zu entwickeln, was im Internet echt ist und was nicht. Das sollte ziemlich hilfreich sein. Ich kann dir meine Bahnverbindung zeigen, wenn du möchtest. Aber du solltest derweil schon erkannt haben, was du für Bullshit von dir gegeben hast. :)
Ja ne, is klar. Übrigens, die Bahn die da kurz vorher drüber gefahren ist war leer. Frag mal bei der DVB nach 😂
@@Tuxfreak Dann war es die davor, so genau weiß ich auch nicht mehr wie spät es war. Aber definitiv nicht länger als 20 Minuten vorher.
They were actually hard pressed to remove most of the rubble before the water rushed in, in order to avoid an artificial damm forming at this place, which would have caused the water to spill into the city. Luckily, they managed. In Germany, the flooding isn't so bad and will probably be ok. Other countries like Poland, Czech Republic, Austria or Romania were not as lucky 🥺
Please consider:
Any engineering will fail if not properly maintained. The problem with this type of bridge is that they need more care and repair than a stone arc. The other two parts had just been overhauled. This part was scheduled next - but apparently they waited too long. Money issue. If someone gets fired, it will be from the finance department, not the engineering department - if at all.
Thank God there were no pedestrians or trams on the bridge at 3am.
The bridge collapsed just a few days before the flood.
There was a Tram on it, just 20 minutes before
According to reports I've read many bridges designed 40-70 years ago have not only troubles because of their design using concrete, which might crack, reinforced with steel, which might rust, but they weren't designed to handle today's traffic in the first place: Trucks became many more and much more heavy nowadays. And don't forget that reinforced concrete design is much less than 100 years old, so the older bridges use a technology that was new in the middle of the 20th century.
But it's an irony that the bridge which is actually a set of 3 adjacent bridges has had repairs on the other 2 parts recently and the now collapsed part was scheduled for repairs next year, says another report.
Bridge collapses don't happen very often, but many of those mid-20th century bridges are in a bad shape now - including some that are part of major autobahn routes. An infamous example is the bridge of the autobahn A1 over the river Rhein at Leverkusen. That bridge had a low speed limit and was closed for trucks over 3.5 tons since 2012 because it was in a bad shape, with all the other cargo traffic having to take detours. Now there finally is a new bridge.
Many people point at our previous "conservative" government that absolutely denied taking new debt to finance infrastructure tasks like repairs. Now there is a big backlog of rotten bridges, an underfunded railway system, both local and federal administration working like 1970 instead of going digital, and many more points.
As If the current government (in particular the financial minister) wouldn't do the same..
The people all had a guardian angel, because the bridge collapsed early in the morning and there was no rush hour traffic on the bridge.🙏
There's not much difference in bridge health between the US and Germany...with the difference that Germany is (was?) better at taking bridges out of service before they collapsed. The US allowed a couple of them to come down on their own while being used over the last years; for example, the Fern Hollow Bridge came down with a bus and a couple of cars on it in 2022.
So far, it looks like the failure point of the Carolabrücke was something unexpected, and all health checks were up to standard. But we will have to wait until the cause of the collapse can be determined---at the moment, the fallen segment is under 5 feet of water.
Tja, Germany is beeing americanized, work culture, amintenance of infrastructure and now they try to private everything in germany as well...like in America.
Some years ago our politicians added a debt break („Schuldenbremse“) to our constitution. It limits the state budget‘s yearly deficit.
Our bridges have a huge backlog for renovations.
Deutsche Welle is the international TV station of the German government.
The main issue is a lack of funding for infrastructure like this.
Bridges are generally one of the most well known parts of infrastructure, they are inspected every 2 - 3 years, and this bridge was already known to be long overdue.
The issue is that we know the problems, but preserving a public debt to gdp ratio is more important than investing into infrastructure to the government, because it works better for voting intentions.
If we are lucky an incident like this might make politicans more interested in actually spending some money on it.
Well mostly our "Der Markt regelt das schon" guy (Christian Lindner FDP) is against taking debt to invest back into the economy. This is the best examble for it: If we invested those milions into the bridge and it didn't collapse, the costs of repairing this collapsed bridge, which is higher wouldn't exist and the traffic jams that increase due to less infranstructure are also costing the state money, because of the transportation of goods
We spend billions and billions for other countries instead of taking care of our own infrastructure. There is zero need to increase the debt because the is more than enough money to fix our infrastructure, education system, digitalisation, etc., etc., etc..
@@Celisar1 Well sure but that money isn't spent here, if we just increase the debt we can keep the benefits we get from aiding certain countries while actually taking care of local infrastructure.
It seems like a much better deal considering there's no harm in extra government debt held by the central bank.
The major mistake was made many decades ago when civil engineers were convinced that alcine cement would prevent steel from rusting, as rust is chemically acid. They were wrong. Haircracks in the concret allows water to trickle in and the rust causes the reinforcing steel to expand. Vibrations by more and more heavy and heavier trucks and more traffic in general as had been considered years ago add to the danger.
The Carola Bridge is a prestressed concrete bridge built in 1971 and was an important traffic artery in the city of Dresden. But it is not as if there was no money for the renovation, because in addition to the 190 million euro new bridge construction of the Walschlösschen Bridge, the Albert Bridge and the Augustus Bridge have also been renovated in recent years, and work has been underway since 2019 on the renovation of the three bridge strands of the Carola Bridge. Two of the three bridge strands of the Carola Bridge have been completely renovated, only the last strand on which trams, pedestrians and cycle paths where should be renovated at the beginning of next year. There is money for the bridge renovation, but only one of Dresden's six Elbe bridges can be renovated at a time so that the flow of traffic in Dresden can be maintained. Bridges in Germany must undergo a visual inspection every year and an intensive general inspection every six years. The last major inspection of the collapsed part of the Carola Bridge was in 2021, and the condition was rated as insufficient (3.0-3.4), which is why the renovation of this part of the Carola Bridge was scheduled to take place at the beginning of 2025, and the renovation of the Blaues Wunder Bridge was postponed.
This is in english because this is DW (Deutsche Welle / "German (Radio)Wave"), the government-run foreign TV channel. It's allowed to be government-run because it doesn't address domestic audiences, and for the same reason is primarly in english.
The US equivalent is "Voice of America" funded by Congress! VoA does broadcasts in 43 languages plus English, DW in 30 languages (including German).
And because we had so many soldiers and their families for, the UK and the USA here.
Our most popular tv channel in Belgium is government run.
Propaganda-Station. As almost every damn public TV/Radio station!
@@photoreactiveart4007 wanna buy some tinfoil for your hats? lmfao
11:03 Coincidentally, same place. The deconstruction of the bridge is currently paused, because of the flooding.
i live literally like 20min from that bridge. it was quite unreal when i heard the news spreading. fortunately i rarely used that bridge in the first place, but currently it's definitely not helping with the flood in the elbe river
The flooding is mainly in Austria, Poland and Tchechien. More than 22 persons died
Czechia would be the english name so you know for the future ^^
@@sickmit3481 Sorry, I have no English spell checker on my phone...
@@juergenkosel9867 no need to be sorry just a minor correction :)
The 300 year old bridge next to it has been renovated a few years ago. And the Carola bridge has been getting very bad results in recent safety checks. But for some reason they waited too long. Seeing how suddenly it collapsed we can say it was extremely lucky this happened at 3 am in the morning. If this happened during the day it would have been far worse.
Hey, Ryan! "I thought it might happen in January or somewhere in the USA". Wow! 😲 ... I KNEW you would stare into the camera after this sentence!!! 😂😂😂
He said Genua, not January.
Perhaps the people of Dresden should ask UNESCO whether they would reinstate their World Heritage status, which was revoked after the construction of another bridge. Now that they have one less, they may be qualified again.
Road salt destroys concrete and steel.
There was a desalination measure about 10 years ago - the concrete was desalinated as deep as posible. But due to undetected damage to the waterproofing, the salt has penetrated to the reinforcement.
The bridge was built in the GDR and there was no schedule for construction and less traffic when it was planned and built.
In fact, a huge amount of new infrastructure was built in East Germany after reunification, but the bridge was planned and built in the 1970s in the former GDR and should have been replaced long ago. There are also a number of broken bridges in West Germany, but they are closed and then blown up rather than collapsing while traffic is still flowing. The conservative government has barely invested in infrastructure for 16 years and now others are having to deal with these failures.
Dresden's market-liberal FDP mayor is in office since 2015. But yeah, it's always the conservative's fault. 🙃
@@c0d3warrior What do you think market liberal means? Market liberals rule in the US or England, look at the infrastructure there, total catastrophe
@@c0d3warrior To us liberals and coservatives are the same ... and since Scholz, social democrats are the same as well ^^
This kind of problem is typical of GDR concrete buildings, as the cheapest, near by 6:38 components were used, which tend to corrode swifter to CaCO3 than other minerals. It is called concrete cancer.
@@c0d3warrior Yep! Germany was sentenced to 32 years of Kohl and Merkel, without parole...
8:25 Between 2:58:04 and 2:59:05. I suspect a photo is taken every minute.
A few minutes before the collaps, a tram was using the bridge. Its a time window of 3-5 minutes. IF the tram would be to late that morning, it could collapse with the tram on it.
FYI: The video from the surveillance camera is actually a sequence of photos taken at intervals of around one minute.
That's why it looks like the bridge disappeared from one second to the next
Weirdest thing about this is that there are still germans unaware that our infrastructure is mostly falling apart. Millions are dumped into restoration efforts, for the roads and bridges to fall apart again just after a few years. And yes, many of us see this as the amarican way. Dont do it right, dont do it good, just make it cheap, so a lot of money can be moved from A to B without any worker benefitting from it... and we are sick of it
Germany is falling apart more and more, but the Germans can travel in their new subways in India or on bike paths in Peru
Danke Mann, sehs komplett genauso . Außer um München herum . Da hat Andi sich gekümmert .
but you have to set priorities. After all, they are building cycle paths in Peru and subways in India. Health insurance for the Turks, submarines for the Jews.
German taxpayer money given away all over the world
So it's clear that you have to save a lot of money in your own country, on your own taxpayers
By the way, there are live cams where you can watch the construction work. At the moment you can't see much because they are also getting floods due to heavy rainfall in the mountains, and a part of the bridge in the water doesn't make for particularly good water drainage.
Bridges in Germany are built to last 50 years. This one had a bit over 50 years. The side for the cars, which did not collapse, was renovated some years ago, and the collapsed part was scheduled to be renovated within a couple of months. It should have been monitored properly, that's the problem.
It is Presse-Sprecher = Press Speaker=A Person who speaks to the Press Not a Preacher
What he meant is, that "Pressesprecher" sounds like "press preacher" that's why he knew that the person is a press speaker.
he knows that, he looked it up.
this is afaik the first time that happend in germany and is super rare all over europe. looks like we can now get compared to the us which is sad - we usually aim for higher standards
Communists built that bridge. I´m not surprised.
I remember a time in the mid-70's when there was a series of collapses of bridges under construction. It turned out that a construction method called "box bridge" ("Kastenbrücke") wasn't very safe or just too new. And there was the Donau bridge of Vienna that collapsed in 1976. There is a Wikipedia article about bridges collapses, listing some European cases among others.
It's a miracle that we don't have many more collapses here.
According to Tagesschau, the 25 highest bridges in Germany were tested for their condition: "The Federal Quality Association examined the structural situation of the 25 highest bridges. According to the results, eleven bridges received grades between 3 and 3.5 and are therefore in a critical or inadequate structural condition. These included the Mosel Valley Bridge, the Lösterbach Valley Bridge and the Neckarburg Bridge, which were mainly bridge structures from the 1970s and earlier. For the other half of the bridges, the condition grades were in the range of 2 to 2.9, which corresponds to a satisfactory to sufficient structural condition." The figures are from 2023. If something doesn't happen soon, we'll have more news like this in the future.
Appearently a tram crossed the bridge only 18 minutes before it collapsed
The bridge was being renovated for 6 years now, but the part that collapsed wasn't done yet. It's also funny how it is the bride right in front of the tax office and the government of the state 🤣
Pardon... welche Braut?
Normally, Bridges of any kind get checked on a regular Basis. They check, for example, if there are any cracks in the concrete and if the concrete takes on a reddish colour, which would imply that the steelbars in it are beginning to rost. I don't know the actual structure of Bridges that are leading over water, but i think they are having similar build like our extremely high Train- or Autobahn Bridges. So they have to be checked on a regular basis, too. If the people who are investigating the collaps are finding at fault that could have prevented the Collaps before it happens, the people that are checking Bridges are about to get an extremely bad day, especially because they have to potentially pay everything 😀 (Did just read it, so it was corrosion of the steel in the Bridge. If that Corrosion is visible on any part of the outside concrete of the Bridge, there are people getting fired and a Company getting fined).
I was thinking the same thing,huge bank to skaters
Der was 1 minute and 1 second between the camera slides as it collapsed. So not less, but just over a minute. But the collapse itself probably happened in under a minute then
Sadly, the German Goverment spends lots and lots of money for other Countries, but our infrastructure is not enough Money there. Same goes for Schools and local and long-distance public transport...
German engineering? Sure. If our bridges collaps, they only do it without anyone on it. No matter that a tram just passed ovr it a few minutes ago. ;)
8:02 Interestingly even after the bridge collapsed there were people driving over the bridge. I wonder if they wondered about something has changed i.e. the lighting of the bridge on one side was totally missing.
... and now there is also the Elbe-flood. 😱
There is also a bridge here where everyone is waiting for it to collapse... the buses are already crossing the highway to avoid it (!!) but no one seems to have any idea how to replace it!!
Ryan your country builds houses out of cardboard paper and wood of course we think your infrastructure is not the best im sorry😂
The cause is still unclear. The reason is most likely something that was not on the radar.
While some damages of this bridge were well known - and already repaired on sections A and B - there was also a permanent surveillance system for the known damages on section C installed. Which gave however no warnings before the collapse.
Probably a combination of a design failure and corrosion.
Salt corrosion is the still main suspect for now, as it is clear that the steel rope within the bridge itself collapsed.
The design failure was just using "Spannbeton", because you will never be able to thoroughly check the steel rope again after it is embedded in the building.
(To compare how such a thing breaks down, watch some of the Arecibo drone footage, and think of it being enveloped in concrete.)
The funny part is that it got renovated partly for many years and i had to drive different routes just to get to my destination
. It stood for like max 5 years lmao
Hi Ryan, the symbol on the sign at 6:03 represents the Frauenkirche (Church of Our Lady). You definitely should react to a video about it, it has a very interesting (post WW II) history.
@RyanWass thank you very much. I had PC stuff to do and was so tired. But your reactions made me laugh and awake.
Sorry we think of USA when s. th. collapsed. In news there a mainly western world "accidents". I am sure world wide your engineers are not the worst. 😂
Some things here are getting more and more like in America.
But in Germany you don't need a big ship to take down a bridge, that's the difference.
More than 42,000 US bridges 'structurally deficient' in 2024 - but number has fallen. The number of US bridges in need of repair or replacement has reached nearly 221,800, according to analysis by the American Road & Transportation Builders Association (ARTBA).6 Sept 2024 Peace out.
Do you know the reason for that.
I mean, obviously certain politicians didn't invest in the infrastructure, but do you know why exactly?
@@Alltagundso the concrete constructions we build in the last century were never designed to last much longer (80years is a common number) but no one really cares about that.
@@Alltagundso Inspectors rate bridges using a 0-9 scale, with 7 or above considered “good.” A “poor” rating reflects a 4 or below on any portion of a bridge’s main components. A mid-range rating is considered “fair.” About 42,400 U.S. bridges are in poor condition, carrying about 167 million vehicles each day, according to the federal government. Those poor bridges are on average 70 years old. Of those poor bridges, four-fifths have problems with their substructures (the legs holding them up) or their superstructures (the arms supporting their load). And more than 15,800 of the poor bridges also were listed in poor shape a decade ago, according to AP’s analysis.
Iowa has the greatest number of poor bridges, followed by Pennsylvania, Illinois and Missouri. Peace out.
listening helps Ryan
USA catching strays from the old Dresdeners
Yeah, well, good old German engineering. If there's no maintenance and upkeep for several decades, that doesn't mean much anymore. There's two bridges in my city that are under very close watch, too. One of them will be shut down in November
Loved your response to "...somewhere in the USA, but not here." I "LoLed", so to speak. 😅 Seriously, that's actually been a strange statement. Still, he's right with his other statement that everything has been neglected. In fact, that's the reason for the collapse of this bridge. Simply a lack of proper maintenance...
Thanks for reacting to what's going on over here.
Wenn die betreffenden Infrastrukturfinanzmittel von rechten unfähigen Bundesverkehrsministern wie Dobrindt und Scheuer großenteils nach Bayern gesteuert wurden, um für den Machterhalt der CSU helfend einzugreifen und demnach für Deutschland und Ostdeutschland nicht mehr allzuviel übrigblieb - wundern wir uns dann? If the infrastructure funding in question was largely channelled to Bavaria by right-wing incompetent federal transport ministers such as Dobrindt and Scheuer in order to help the CSU stay in power, leaving not too much left over for Germany and eastern Germany - are we surprised?
The bad thing about this collapse was that heavy rains and floodings were expected the following days and the pieces of the structure had to be removed fast so it wouldn't cause further damages with the floodings.
The bridge collapsed on September 11. I think that's why the old man certainly made the comparison with America.
It was huge Luck nobody get hurt. This is the side where have a great look a the historical Part of the Dresden. The Tram is traveling too and final some weeks before there was a open Air Cinema. At this the show Movies, but also have a lot of Musican playing there. Some are in Germany well knowen and so the Bridge is full with people only for listing the music.
actually there is some more detailed footage of the collapse available - from a CCTV installed on a bridge (pun intended) of a ship moored at the quay nearby
And now we also have a flood here
The man refering to Genua (Italy) and the USA probably had the bridge collapses in mind which made it into the German news.
A bridge in East Germany that was built by the GDR.
Thats just the beginning. The whole infrastructure here is broken, old or damaged. In my city, they had now to force brake down an old bridge because it was just a matter of days of collapse to avoid an upcoming train crash. Now 150 Bridges need to fast rebuild or more collapse soon.
Streets full of potholes, cracks and rough. Construction sides take forever and quick fixes were mad very bad and just take 6-12 months to get broken again.
Train lines also old and limit on speed. Just all money for 3 - 4 Highspeedlines. Train is never on time. Same for Bus.
Internet and mobile network is slow or bad available. They build more fiber now but in bad quality.
i live near dresden and have friends in dresden... this news actually confused me and i thought it was a joke
the guy at 5:20 probabbly took the us as example, because as far as i know, the bridges are not that hevily mantained and controlled as in germany
3:50 Presse-Sprecher, not preacher but speaker
thank god i don't go outside. i wouldn't want to deal with the traffic right now.
2:20 Ryan, German engineering just means, that tings break the day after warranty expired :D :D :D It happened some day before the rain let the rivers rose in that region.
"Calm doen Dude..." you are lucky that you can't recognize his saxony dialect ... makes him sound even more upset ;)
Das Problem ist, das gerade Spannbeton mit der Zeit die Festigkeit verliert. Dazu kommt noch das der Zersetzung Prozess der Spannseile durch Streusalz und Wasser gefördert werden. In den 1970 ger Jahren galt Spannbeton als das Nonplusultra, Design ging vor allen anderen
it was 2:58:04 - 2:59:05, so 1 minunte and 1 second :)
German engineering excellence! They retain their reputation for automotive engineering (apart from VW) and industrial scale un-aliving technologies.
East german engineering.
Can´t be compared to west german quality.
@gdok6088: It's nice how you show off your ignorance. This bridge was designed and built in the 1970ies. At this time Germany was divided.
You can show your wisdom an tell how you would have inspected the bridge to find out how safe it is.
Years ago I worked on electronic bridge health monitoring systems. I´m not a professional in bridge construction, but it looks to me like a concrete bridge with steel prestressing. So it´s easy to check the concrete from outside ... but it´s rather difficult to "monitor" the steel rope health inside the concrete. Now, if they used the wrong (or not perfectly unified) steel or the contcrete contains acids that destroys the steel over years ... then the ropes break .. and the concrete itself can not survive.
The days before there was a fast decrease in temperature .. so theoretically possible the inside of the bridge was still warm, while the outside cooled down and thus the steel could non maintain it´s prestressing.
Don't try to use it as a half-pipe. Most of it is currently under water due to a flood on the river
german spokesperson: people might get killed so the bridge is closed
american spokesperson: the current state of the construction might negatively impact your bride crossing expiriance
Bridge is tired , bridge goes to sleep . Rahmede bridge showed all other bridges how to do it .
round about 50% of the german bridges need to be fixed, but the cities dont have the money to fix them.
It's an heritage from the 16 years of Merkel were nearly any Money was spend into roads or Bridges. They would have needed Money from tolls from the Highways but Merkels Party was Always cosy with Transport companies and so Germany Had the lowest toll in the EU for years. That Money was Missing.
Das Geld ist durchaus dagewesen, floß aber nach Bayern, und schau mal, wer die Bundesverkehrsminister gewesen sind - Überraschung! Überraschung?? The money was there, but it went to Bavaria, and look who the federal transport ministers were - surprise! Surprise??
The brige was verry old and build in the DDR in a Dekade with almiot no cars. The few cars that existed ware The "Trabant" with ca.500 kg.
That bridge was old and had to be repaired. But german authorities tend to neglect things like that
germany is choked by its own bureaucracy and governments (the current and the last one), who spends money all over the world but let the infrastructure (not only that) decay.
The money seeps away in the government offices and never reaches the target. on top of that some bridges are owned by companies like the Deutsche Bahn, who seem to just don't care.
Where i live is a bridge over the Elbe river (the main route for commuter traffic and a train line between regions of 2 federal states), which is known to be in a bad condition and needs replacement for 3 decades now.
Completed in 1971 => GDR engineering, not FRG engineering 😆
Yeah, German engineering... I suggest you watch a video about Berlin Airport construction issues...
Come on guys: German engineering! 😂😂😂😂 so funny
German girl in Berlin here!
Dresden und seine Brücken ... immer nur Schwierigkeiten. :)
In Saxony we have a government of christian democrats, social democrats and greens. They all follow the green agenda: increase taxes and inflation and give all the money you need for infrastructure not for infrastructure but for aid to other countries. So we gave this year 80 billions for aid to other countries, e.g. bicycle lanes in Peru.
East German engineering ahahah that’s why. They underestimated the salt and therefore rust …
Hello, i was born in dresden and live here for over 20 years.
Its the most ugly bridge in the city, noone was hurt so its not a big drama for me.
But all the billions of taxes? Where is all the money??
Unter Söders Matratze natürlich. Under Söder's mattress, of course.
Do you know: In Germany you can order shoes with the words "Die in hell".
Translate it in english it means "This in bright".
Makes no sense in any language.
off topic
😅
the fact it happened exactly 23 yrs. after 9/11
the bridges in Germany are falling apart, but the Germans now have cycle paths in Peru and feminist toilets in Kenya
Do current affairs videos do well usually? I enjoy to see you reacting to things but after this has been up and down the news for a week now i couldn't care less what anyone thinks. I don't see what you can bring to the table in this case. Your audience on this channel is probably mostly german and i'd not be surprised if they all had enough of the topic for now.
Wird jetzt systematisch, genau.
Janice Run
Our German Government don't care about his own Country, they care for other Country.😢
Germany is a sucker for austerity politics and crumbling infrastructure is the result of that.
Our bridge collapsed due to corruption. Engineers and politicians ignored internal rust because they couldn't measure how bad it already was and didn't even try to predict the bridge's lifespan. The council meeting where they discussed this is public. If you can't measure danger, it's too dangerous, plain and simple.
You mean corrosion?
Dood, Germany is going to shit! This is just the surface... and just to be clear: I'm a German living in Germany!
The Germany you know from videos is the past. Germany is currently being destroyed economically (politically) but also socially, etc. The decline is starting slowly but surely...
When you had put the last 20 years of global budget optimizing immigration, that's what happen. It's only a matter of time until Germany decide they have to invade France agaaaaaain 🤣
react to georg schramm political language ;)