I don't think stark is the anchor person. Its gotta be Loki. 616 lost their Loki and they made sure to give us another one who now controls the Tva. And Steve Rogers is coming back you can here is voice in secret wars trailer.
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Hear me out on this… Quantamania Kang returns in Avengers 5 as the Beyonder, steals the Throne at the End of Time from Loki, and becomes the new ruler of the Void/Battleworld. Then in Secret Wars, Loki assembles a team of multiversal superheroes to defeat Kang’s army of villains in the Void and take the throne back, rebooting the MCU in the process.
Thanks! For the dope info drop. With the recent news from the Hot mic, I’ve been thinking what if dooms been pulling strings since the first avengers. This prompting thanos to go after the stones and forming his team of villain avengers.
I've got a theory, but it conflicts with your statement. Can you elaborate on Dooms manipulation from the hot mic? I'm curious what new information has entered the fray.
That makes sense if Kang is still the villain. In West Coast Avengers, Immortus admits that he has been manipulating the Avengers for some time. The biggest victim has been Wanda. He states he is ready to promote Wanda from his pawn to his queen. At the end of Age of Ultron, Thor talks about this being the fifth stone to turn up in the last few years. He states that they are being manipulated and are pawns.
@@davidjones8043the fact that yoy compare two different movies about the same characters you know and love is crazy. Infinity wars barely goes deeper into any other character but thanos
23:48 I was considering that the potential villain who takes over the throne and somehow steals Loki's powers could be Dr. Doom. This fits with your theory from one of your videos, where you mentioned Dr. Doom possibly being in close proximity to both Loki and Doctor Strange.
Idky people leave out the fact that Man Thing is the literal guardian of the nexus point and the multiverse and that dude was specifically chosen to be in Werewolf by Night. It could’ve been just Elsa and Jack.
I've always been more interested in the cosmic stuff than anything. I've waited so long to see the Surfer and Galactus I hope they get the attention they deserve. Galactus should not be one and done for sure. I hope it's multiple films. I really hope I'm not disappointed by it.
Michael Giacchino would make for a great director for Midnight Sons with that in mind Werewolf and Elsa would be great pov leads for the project with Blade or Wong being leader of team of course and include Moon Knight Man-Thing and even Ghost Rider Moon Knight and Werewolf by Night fight and team up is a must!
I agree that you should do a collab with Josh ! He's super excited about the Russo Brothers coming back and you are too- I'd love to hear y'all nerd out about that and give us all more hope 😅Maybe film on a weekend if you work M-F
The question is where does Wanda fit into this? She is not in Secret Wars. You have to deal with the effects of MoM. She is likely dormant so she does not have to face what she did. In addition, she would be considered dead as no one was there to see the red flash. It seems the only way to bring her in would be for Kang or the main villain to bring her in.
Yes! The Russos with McFeely and Markus are MCU gold. Yes their non-MCU movies are shit but why does that matter? I dont understand why social media all hates them now. I just block every account. Keep in mind the Russos pre MCU work. Arrested Development, Community, the hilarious but short lived Happy Endings and many more.
russos are top 3 MCU directors for me, but they’re only 50/50 in my book because i don’t like civil war or endgame. right now, ryan coogler has my number one spot. his black panther movies are nearly flawless to me. i’m hoping we get new directors for the avengers movies though
Tay! I originally had something way longer written but decided against it. I wanted to say Awesome video. Long time Fan of your channel. And everything you covered in this video I have thoroughly investigated. I have a theory I've been working on, and it's extremely promising at predicting things to come to free the timeline from HWR. I know how Loki survived and what onscreen moments prove that variant Loki from the Loki series is also Infinity War Loki that "died". I also know How Thanos is alive. What Cap did to get to that bench in endgame etc. There's a lot to discuss but I don't want to spoil things for those who want to be surprised. I think you'd love to add the scenes and edit this theory. I've been cooking it for years, and it's ready. I don't have the tools or skills but I think it's important that fans understand it. I believe this will be what fans will talk about for the next decade. We're talking biggest thing since Darth Vader said, "I Am your father." except there are at minimum four I have uncovered. very in-depth, deep dive into dialogue and critical scenes fans don't realize are important in a grander sense. This video here so far has been the closest thing to it but it's missing key canon information to complete it. I've done that homework. Is there any way to get in touch with you? I think you're one of the few who can see this for what it is.
I hope, with all the rewrites with Blade, that they do AWAY with the DEI concept of making the focus on his daughter, and not where it SHOULD be, which is on BLADE! Doesn't have to be an origin story, which we all know that, bit maybe SOME hint toward it. And go from there. Otherwise it's going to flop!
They good but endgame was a step back. I just dont think they can handle that work load of 2 avengers films back to back. I dont want them to screw up secret wars.
Im such a fan of the comics that i dont like how marvel uses multiple stories into one movie. Like secret wars mixed with kang stories. Ragnarok mixed with planet hulk and war world hulk. It was fun but wasted that hulk story to make a good thor movie. Then thor love and thunder rushed thru gor the god butcher story and left alot of great story elements out of the film. Now they used some of that story well never get what they missed from it ever again. I prefer episodic series to cover as much ground in these deep comic stories. How much better is gorr the god butcher comic and god bomb than love and thunder. If it was a disney plus show it would be so dope in comparison to wanda vision that should of been a short story movie instead of love and thunder which goes back and forth in time from past thor to present thor to future king thor. The motion comic is so great in comparison. I still love marvel just hate to see these great stories go to waste. Maybe they hafta pay the writers more if they use the whole story instead of blending multiple stories together with new elements from the writers they are already paying? Space sharks were cooler than space dolphins too! 😔
Four years is more than enough time to set up Doctor Doom. With him (potentially) being close to both Loki and Doctor Strange, he could get a character arc similar to Thanos. Multiple Avengers films should be enough to introduce him properly.@@gammafrost
@@markanderson7236the only way this works is if you introduce him in fantastic four (which it seems like they will at least), have him play a supporting role in Dr strange 3, and make him the villain of black panther 3 since he has history with wakanda. I do think doom deserves his own disney plus series but disney isn’t really about quality these days.
@@gammafrost I'm doubtful that they can pull off Black Panther 3 given their limited timeframe. If they manage to do it, showcasing Doctor Doom's villainy to the hero group would have a greater impact (in Avengers: Secret Wars). However, if Shuri's Black Panther ends up facing Doctor Doom, it might feel like a repeat of her previous encounter with Namor.
It's kinda blah and if I remember correctly, he doesn't do a lot to advance towards secret wars or bringing everyone together under 1 umbrella still needs x men vs avengers, secret wars to fight like spider-man across the multi-verse, battle world and new avengers. Not to mention, Captain America turning and taking over the world as a hydra agent.
King Thanos would be cool but I think it’s time to pivot to someone new. They’ve already built Kang up so I think he should remain the main villain. Doom would be cool. I’m just worried they’ll rush his development.
@@gammafrost I want a fresh face and perspective helming the MCU, this just makes me feel like they don't have a plan so they throwing anything at the wall to make it stick.
Easily the goats of MCU directors. And wow, avengers forever had a 5 year old drawing the book. Fuck that's bad
I don't think stark is the anchor person. Its gotta be Loki. 616 lost their Loki and they made sure to give us another one who now controls the Tva. And Steve Rogers is coming back you can here is voice in secret wars trailer.
Oh, what a day!! What a lovely day!!!!
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Thx for the reccs
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These are my favorite type of marvel videos seriously
Mediocrity? 💀
@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves why are you here then? They take time and definitely have quality. He’s got almost 100k subscribers while you’re at 0.
Civil war!!! Top tier…May be the best flick they made still…
Hear me out on this…
Quantamania Kang returns in Avengers 5 as the Beyonder, steals the Throne at the End of Time from Loki, and becomes the new ruler of the Void/Battleworld. Then in Secret Wars, Loki assembles a team of multiversal superheroes to defeat Kang’s army of villains in the Void and take the throne back, rebooting the MCU in the process.
How can Loki hide his identity from Logan? Can't Wolverine smell out your true identity?
I’m sure Loki has the ability to cover more than one sense
Thanks! For the dope info drop. With the recent news from the Hot mic, I’ve been thinking what if dooms been pulling strings since the first avengers. This prompting thanos to go after the stones and forming his team of villain avengers.
I've got a theory, but it conflicts with your statement. Can you elaborate on Dooms manipulation from the hot mic? I'm curious what new information has entered the fray.
That makes sense if Kang is still the villain. In West Coast Avengers, Immortus admits that he has been manipulating the Avengers for some time. The biggest victim has been Wanda. He states he is ready to promote Wanda from his pawn to his queen. At the end of Age of Ultron, Thor talks about this being the fifth stone to turn up in the last few years. He states that they are being manipulated and are pawns.
Thanks dude - and fun theory, I look forward to breaking it down!
I think that Thor will have a space team with the Guardian of the galaxy hulk Valkyrie Hercules and externals and thors brothers
Not a big thinker ehh. 😂
You can’t name a single bad Russos MCU film. I am excited for this news. Infinity War was a superior movie to Endgame all day long.
Delusional
@@davidjones8043the fact that yoy compare two different movies about the same characters you know and love is crazy. Infinity wars barely goes deeper into any other character but thanos
Great video! I like you Avengers Forever Theory!
What if... the Avengers deal with the Celestials in Secret Wars? This may look like they'll be screwed
What If DP3 is the last MCU 🎬?
What if....its the first?? @@phatmantv
@@seane4780 🤯
23:48 I was considering that the potential villain who takes over the throne and somehow steals Loki's powers could be Dr. Doom. This fits with your theory from one of your videos, where you mentioned Dr. Doom possibly being in close proximity to both Loki and Doctor Strange.
God I was hoping you’d post a video before SDCC. Just starting now but holy shit am I excited for Marvel as I go to line up for Hall H next week 😎
Ha sorry for the delay man. I'll have some more stuff coming out next week before & after SDCC. I'm sure there's going to be a lot to cover!
Idky people leave out the fact that Man Thing is the literal guardian of the nexus point and the multiverse and that dude was specifically chosen to be in Werewolf by Night. It could’ve been just Elsa and Jack.
💯 for the top 3 mcu films (winter soldier, civil war, infinity war)
I've always been more interested in the cosmic stuff than anything. I've waited so long to see the Surfer and Galactus I hope they get the attention they deserve. Galactus should not be one and done for sure. I hope it's multiple films. I really hope I'm not disappointed by it.
Ryan Coogler, James Gunn, Russo Brothers.
Christopher Markus and Stephen Mcfeely are a more important ingredient in my opinion, than the Russos, and hopefully they'll be back too
Michael Giacchino would make for a great director for Midnight Sons with that in mind Werewolf and Elsa would be great pov leads for the project with Blade or Wong being leader of team of course and include Moon Knight Man-Thing and even Ghost Rider
Moon Knight and Werewolf by Night fight and team up is a must!
Did you just tease me w Wanda on the thumbnail I didn’t hear you talk about her 😂
That's crazy your top 3 are the exact same as mine!
I agree that you should do a collab with Josh ! He's super excited about the Russo Brothers coming back and you are too- I'd love to hear y'all nerd out about that and give us all more hope 😅Maybe film on a weekend if you work M-F
🤘🏿Oh! I missed the notification, eh?🤘🏿
The question is where does Wanda fit into this? She is not in Secret Wars. You have to deal with the effects of MoM. She is likely dormant so she does not have to face what she did. In addition, she would be considered dead as no one was there to see the red flash. It seems the only way to bring her in would be for Kang or the main villain to bring her in.
The Thor god of fists is my favorite variant
Thanks!
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Hope all is well 😊 welcome back.
I'm glad they are
Yes! The Russos with McFeely and Markus are MCU gold. Yes their non-MCU movies are shit but why does that matter? I dont understand why social media all hates them now. I just block every account.
Keep in mind the Russos pre MCU work. Arrested Development, Community, the hilarious but short lived Happy Endings and many more.
Yeah I don't understand how MCU fans can hate on the Russo's considering the MCU films they are responsible for.
russos are top 3 MCU directors for me, but they’re only 50/50 in my book because i don’t like civil war or endgame. right now, ryan coogler has my number one spot. his black panther movies are nearly flawless to me. i’m hoping we get new directors for the avengers movies though
i would like to see avengers 5 being called avengers vs x-men
Marvel gang wars🔥😱🥶
3, 2, 1 Let's Go!
Tay! I originally had something way longer written but decided against it. I wanted to say Awesome video. Long time Fan of your channel. And everything you covered in this video I have thoroughly investigated. I have a theory I've been working on, and it's extremely promising at predicting things to come to free the timeline from HWR. I know how Loki survived and what onscreen moments prove that variant Loki from the Loki series is also Infinity War Loki that "died". I also know How Thanos is alive. What Cap did to get to that bench in endgame etc. There's a lot to discuss but I don't want to spoil things for those who want to be surprised. I think you'd love to add the scenes and edit this theory. I've been cooking it for years, and it's ready. I don't have the tools or skills but I think it's important that fans understand it. I believe this will be what fans will talk about for the next decade. We're talking biggest thing since Darth Vader said, "I Am your father." except there are at minimum four I have uncovered. very in-depth, deep dive into dialogue and critical scenes fans don't realize are important in a grander sense.
This video here so far has been the closest thing to it but it's missing key canon information to complete it. I've done that homework.
Is there any way to get in touch with you? I think you're one of the few who can see this for what it is.
Finally, the MCU will be re-balanced, as all things should be.
So is Agent Paradox being controlled and manipulated by Cassandra Nova so she can take over Loki at the Yggdrasil Tree at the end of time???
I hope, with all the rewrites with Blade, that they do AWAY with the DEI concept of making the focus on his daughter, and not where it SHOULD be, which is on BLADE! Doesn't have to be an origin story, which we all know that, bit maybe SOME hint toward it. And go from there. Otherwise it's going to flop!
They good but endgame was a step back. I just dont think they can handle that work load of 2 avengers films back to back. I dont want them to screw up secret wars.
I’m so psyched for Russo bros to return
Now that the Russo bros are likely coming back we just need Marcus and mcfeeley to complete the dream team.
Hope my grandsons enjoy it when they are released
Avengers Forever is the best Kang Story!
💯👍🏻the Russo Brothers
If they get the right balance of Hickman's cerebral/ strategic & Aaron's fun/pow...🌟
The Celestials would wipe out the entire planet!
The R****s coming back? Jinx it. PLEASE JINX IT.
Hey Tay, I would Love for you and Josh to work together!!🎬😊👏🏾👍🏼🔥💙🐲
Im such a fan of the comics that i dont like how marvel uses multiple stories into one movie. Like secret wars mixed with kang stories. Ragnarok mixed with planet hulk and war world hulk. It was fun but wasted that hulk story to make a good thor movie. Then thor love and thunder rushed thru gor the god butcher story and left alot of great story elements out of the film. Now they used some of that story well never get what they missed from it ever again. I prefer episodic series to cover as much ground in these deep comic stories. How much better is gorr the god butcher comic and god bomb than love and thunder. If it was a disney plus show it would be so dope in comparison to wanda vision that should of been a short story movie instead of love and thunder which goes back and forth in time from past thor to present thor to future king thor. The motion comic is so great in comparison. I still love marvel just hate to see these great stories go to waste. Maybe they hafta pay the writers more if they use the whole story instead of blending multiple stories together with new elements from the writers they are already paying? Space sharks were cooler than space dolphins too! 😔
Lets gooooooo
Mannnneee..... just bring JONATHAN MAJORS back as KANG and that Man COOK!!!!
I hope he does get the role back.
Canceling Kang is a mistake!
I agree. He’s a major avengers villain and should be kept. They’re gonna rush Doom’s storyline if he’s the center villain for secret wars.
Four years is more than enough time to set up Doctor Doom. With him (potentially) being close to both Loki and Doctor Strange, he could get a character arc similar to Thanos. Multiple Avengers films should be enough to introduce him properly.@@gammafrost
@@markanderson7236the only way this works is if you introduce him in fantastic four (which it seems like they will at least), have him play a supporting role in Dr strange 3, and make him the villain of black panther 3 since he has history with wakanda. I do think doom deserves his own disney plus series but disney isn’t really about quality these days.
@@gammafrost I'm doubtful that they can pull off Black Panther 3 given their limited timeframe. If they manage to do it, showcasing Doctor Doom's villainy to the hero group would have a greater impact (in Avengers: Secret Wars). However, if Shuri's Black Panther ends up facing Doctor Doom, it might feel like a repeat of her previous encounter with Namor.
It's kinda blah and if I remember correctly, he doesn't do a lot to advance towards secret wars or bringing everyone together under 1 umbrella still needs x men vs avengers, secret wars to fight like spider-man across the multi-verse, battle world and new avengers. Not to mention, Captain America turning and taking over the world as a hydra agent.
Russo brothers about to produce another classic. Only thing I'd like them to do is tone down the comedy
So no Kang 😭😭😭
For now, I bet they bring him back though
Kang will still appear , he just wont be the main villain
Ruso bros ruined hulk....gtfoh
We don't know who the main antagonist will be now though
Doom or King Thanos
King Thanos would be cool but I think it’s time to pivot to someone new. They’ve already built Kang up so I think he should remain the main villain. Doom would be cool. I’m just worried they’ll rush his development.
If not Kang which sucks. Hopefully Doctor Doom and The Beyonder. Maybe even have Galactus too as he's going to be in Fantastic 4.
Avengers to come is a big flop for sure without the original characters!
I'm sorry, James Gunn is the best Marvel Director. They're awesome too...
Screw kang
The Russo brothers are not good filmmakers... Endgame was disappointing
They still were responsible for major successes such as winter soldier, civil war, and infinity war.
End was the best Avengers movie of all time
@ethanmustard9396 Simp 💀
@@ethanmustard9396infinity war was better in my opinion.
@@gammafrost I want a fresh face and perspective helming the MCU, this just makes me feel like they don't have a plan so they throwing anything at the wall to make it stick.
Thanks!