I wouldn't expect Jack to know that it's Burger King who says "Have it your way" given that he only gets burgers at the country club, but I'm still disappointed in him.
Porsche now has two distinct product streams: Porsche-VAG: Sedans/Wagons, SUVs/Crossovers - Lots of crossover with VAG for chassis and drivetrain, pays the bills and bottom line. Porsche-Porsche: Sports Cars/Racing - Porsche for the enthusiasts, bespoke chassis + drivetrains, acts to create brand equity for the rest of Porsche .
The dream setup for a brand that can continue to develop and sell world class drivers cars whilst still being stable and profitable. Aston and Jaguar, take notes.
I came here to post exact that. Mr Goose is dandy in houndstooth. I can see Mr Goose wearing that same exact outfit when touring the Singer Porsche resto-mod factory.
Mark and Jack a fantastic review as always. Love the format and the great interaction between you both. Truly the best Auto channel, the best format that is truly informative and in depth!!!!
@@aygwm Aaron, just because somebody can't afford something doesn't mean they should buy it. A wise person makes good Investments not foolish extravagances.
@@gregblack4581 you’d be surprised. They hold their value very well. Go look at the average price on any used carrera .. any year. Your usage cost that depreciates it’s value is well worth the price you’re paying. A Honda will never bring you the joy, performance, comfort or respect that a Porsche will.
yes..it was to counter Mc'D's which tended to have everything pre-made so not having onions or mustard, etc. delayed an order for an annoyingly longer time
A point to in favor of this suv is that it does have the same 4.0L V8 as the turbo. A quick tune for $500-$1000 and your back at 18 PSI, which is Turbo power . Except you now have more rear bias, and better suspension... FOR LESS MONEY than the Cayenne Turbo!
Love Love your Channel!! You really give amazing insight into the cars and seriously unbiased opinions. You have a new viewer for sure! Looking forward to new videos..
Hello guys, I actually stopped everything to view this video and your comments. Well done. I appreciate the objective views of the S and the GTS. Again, I agree with your closing noting the value a customer places on the driving dynamics, rear bias etc. versus the coup. My vote is the GTS.
The Cayenne Coupe may not be everyone favorites but this helps Porsche keep making our favorite cars like the 911, Cayman, Boxster, Panamera, and also keep the manual gearbox Props to Porsche💯
It would be cool if the all digital screen gauge cluster offered retro gauges from prior Porsche’s. Maybe offer a 959 or 356 option. Pointless maybe but still cool.
@@AnyBodyWannaPeanut Convenient and familiar. They could call it Fastback which even sounds nice, but maybe the "back" already scares them, and then if a car has a little duck tail, it's not a pure fastback anymore. Don't try to examine marketing people with an expectation of making sense.
My 2020 Corolla hatchback has black piano black plastic as well. I'm not happy about it. I can't wipe it clean, because it'll get scratched. So, I just leave it dusty. Faux wood or matte black would have been so much better.
Would be very interesting to see you guys review the E-Hybrid. Very impressive numbers but I'm not sure how it translates to the drive. How they handle electrification would be fascinating to see.
I could ask the goose man anything about Porsche in general, I would ask has Porsche as a company improved after the acquisition by VW or would its products have been better if it stayed independent? Keep up the good work Dallas. Truly one of the best channels on here
@@hamsterama once your $250,000 in student loans are paid off, and you've built up your reputation and client base as the go-to, then yeah I suppose. An SUV like this is mostly for the wife of a hedge fund manager specializing in tax evasion.
I am content with my bigass-diameter shiny red aftermarket sway bars because they don't really make the ride more unpleasant in my perception because they only tense up a little when bumps are one-sided, and that feels great, especially with the massive reduction of body roll that people otherwise need to get a really awfully hard suspension for. (I'm a total sway bar fan, haha. Behold the glory: g6.owledge.de/myg6/oldengine/stabi_vorne.jpg g6.owledge.de/myg6/oldengine/stabi_hinten.jpg - P.S.: Got a heavier engine now, though, so the effect is a little less, but also much-needed especially now.)
I have been looking at these lately and I must say they are impressive. I think I would rather have the Macan at this time but maybe I could pony up for the Cayanne. 🤔
This is going to make a great used vehicle in a number of years. Porsche probably the most reliable within the VW Group so I wouldn't expect massive depreciation like some other luxury brands but to buy this new...man, you had better be wealthy, even to lease it.
I’ll tell you why GTS variant actually makes a lot of sense. Looking at the base MSRP it looks like the GTS is way more expensive, but I’ve been cross-buying S Platinum Edition and GTS myself and for my spec, which I’d call average the prices where briefly the same and if I would also checked all of the GTS perks that I didn’t much care about like sport exhaust, alcantara headliner or dimmed lights for the S, the S would be even more expensive, so basicaly you’re getting the V8 upgrade and sportier chassis for free.
After putting some more miles on it I can stress out one more difference in favor of GTS - the low-end torque. It’s in totally different league in GTS, it just feels really punchy, which I cannot say about S. To go fast with a S you need to rev it, it feels fast only when you floor it. GTS always feels fast. I guess that there is just no replacement for displacement.
How can you ask someone what it feels like to drive a Porsche?? There are no two feelings when you drive a Porsche... A Porsche would drive like a Porsche from now till the end of time... That car is a true master piece ☺☺
Test drove the Cayenne Coupe S and GTS, and IF you can afford the extra cost the GTS is just better. First of all, you're buying one of these because of its attitude, its personality, and the V8 adds tons of character. It's also more punchy at every RPM range, it doesn't suffer from lag down low like the 2.9 V6. The GTS also sits about 1-2 inches lower. which closes up the large wheel gaps the S has compared to the GTS. If you're thinking about spending $1500 a month on an S I say spend $1800 and get the GTS. I'm also curious if the GTS will hold its value better?
Macan back seats are unusable and torque converter automatics work better with turbocharged engines. I’ve driven both a lot and think the Cayenne is a better overall experience.
Yeah, the Mahan is plenty big enough for four adults. Where did we get the idea people should be able to cross their legs in back? That was Rolls Royce-level luxury a generation ago, and now people get all sniffy if a CR-V (or Macan) doesn't offer it.
I drove a Macan S and funny enough I like it more than the Cayenne. It feels a bit more "go karty" than the Cayenne but still as comfortable and far better priced. As for this obsession with black piano gloss trim what is wrong with the manufacturers and customers? The finger prints and dust would drive me nuts and I'd be cleaning it daily. Great review BTW.
You guys do a great job of pros and cons and comparisons which make u guys unique. Nick Murray says that cayenne gts actually has the same horsepower as the turbo cayenne although it is listed as detuned. What is your view in the horsepower? Do you think the power is similar to cayenne s or the turbo? Nick is saying that they listed the horsepower low although they really did not detune the power.
If I had ten cents for every person to whom sound matters, I’d be very wealthy. Sound does matter. When my wife leaves in the morning in our 2021 Cayenne GTS, I still like to listen to the cold start. And when I drive it, especially in sport plus, the sound is intoxicating. In comparison, the S you tested sounded harsh and strained.
Great work, guys. I just don't get why someone would buy this "coupe" edition that lacks cargo space, which is the main reason to get an SUV in the first place.
I'll buy a used one with less than 50k miles and hopefully less than $50k, and I don't care how old they are all well built and fun to drive. It wouldn't be my daily driver, but I've always wanted one and I am running out of time.
It's kind of mind blowing that nobody is using gorilla glass on those capacitive touch surfaces. Black plastic scratches instantly and doesn't clean off very well after a while. An oleophobic coating would be great as well, like we've been doing with smartphones for the last decade.
@@matthewmatthew638 It's a Porsche. It's a foregone conclusion you're already spending a fuckton of money. They might as well differentiate their gloss black from a 20k Mazda 3.
I strongly suspect they've thought this through and are using whatever glass they need to use for their design requirements. Most piano black is plastic, not glass
I wouldn't expect Jack to know that it's Burger King who says "Have it your way" given that he only gets burgers at the country club, but I'm still disappointed in him.
The only reason i know about fast food is my butler. I had him fire the maid for bringing it into my mansion.
@@jackholmes8105 I guess that disproves the rumor that you promise women fine Italian dining then take them to Sbarro
Did you see the size of his guns!? Bet you wouldn't say that to his face.
LOL, 😆. I see your point and it makes sense.
@@jackholmes8105 JACK! Be my frehnd
These two have really grown on me. Took me awhile to appreciate their humor, but I'm finding myself clicking on the videos as soon as they come in
having hard time liking Jack.
@@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaint He is a bit "stiff", but I'm starting to like him.
@@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaint Jack's awesome
Oh sorry I mean, jack is #swag
Is not for everybody
@@fxkraft1037 he’s not depressed, just disappointed
Porsche now has two distinct product streams:
Porsche-VAG: Sedans/Wagons, SUVs/Crossovers - Lots of crossover with VAG for chassis and drivetrain, pays the bills and bottom line.
Porsche-Porsche: Sports Cars/Racing - Porsche for the enthusiasts, bespoke chassis + drivetrains, acts to create brand equity for the rest of Porsche .
The dream setup for a brand that can continue to develop and sell world class drivers cars whilst still being stable and profitable. Aston and Jaguar, take notes.
@@user-ve9tu5rv6e Lotus too.
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Fair point, just like Audi has Volkswagen-Audi’s, and Audi-Audis. Mercedes and BMW have followed this too.
@@sirtristan01 which models are Audi-Audis?
That intro makes me feel like I’m playing Forza motorsport
RIGHT
when car shows turn cinematic - love the execution of your work!
I despise “coupe” SUV’s with a passion, but I must say this one doesn’t look half bad. Definitely better looking than than the X6.
Coupe suvs are fine by me. I always like more design diversity in the market.
Men that grill ahh!
Is getting scary over there at BMW with their current designs.🤣
Also better than the hideos GLE Coupe (aka giant blob).
I’d actually say the opposite, the front of the cayenne is not aggressive enough
I agree, I really don't get the suv coupe. What's the point? The X6 and GLE are hideous. The Cayenne coupe is less than hideous.
I just checked my garage……a 2017 Macan S……and a 2023 911 Carrera.
Perfect !!
Savageese, you have the best automotive channel bar none!
you really love the LC 500! Final thoughts background 😍 Nicely done!!!
15:57
Goose looks so dandy with that hat and scarf 🔥🔥
I came here to post exact that. Mr Goose is dandy in houndstooth.
I can see Mr Goose wearing that same exact outfit when touring the Singer Porsche resto-mod factory.
Made me giggle maniacally. He does not look happy in that garb.
Damn dude!
Who’s directing your videos?
I hope your subscribers appreciate it, that’s a lot of work .
That intro was amazing 🤩.
That lc in the background 🔥
Mark and Jack a fantastic review as always. Love the format and the great interaction between you both. Truly the best Auto channel, the best format that is truly informative and in depth!!!!
Alcantara on the steering wheel and on the grab handles is a big mistake. It gets dirty and matted down very quickly.
Just buy new ones, you can afford it.
@@aygwm Aaron, just because somebody can't afford something doesn't mean they should buy it. A wise person makes good Investments not foolish extravagances.
A new Porsche is not ever going to be a wise investment regardless. That is a emotional want. A Honda Accord is enough for 95 percent of folks .
@@TheHomeExpert5 thank you. I was being sarcastic
@@gregblack4581 you’d be surprised. They hold their value very well. Go look at the average price on any used carrera .. any year. Your usage cost that depreciates it’s value is well worth the price you’re paying. A Honda will never bring you the joy, performance, comfort or respect that a Porsche will.
It has been a while; but I think it was Burger King that had the tagline "you can have it your way"
yes..it was to counter Mc'D's which tended to have everything pre-made so not having onions or mustard, etc. delayed an order for an annoyingly longer time
Man this review tickled the audiophile in me. Impressive as always.
Great content, as always. Can you please do a video on how to interpret your audio charts? Cheers
The music score for this video is just plain excellent. Really nice work, fellas.
You just give such good, no bullshit, consumer advice. I don't care about this car at all and even I appreciated this video.
You'll be the envy of all the other soccer moms with this beast.
I've heard that the famous, gated neighborhood to private school, ring has been run in a world record 8 minutes in one of these.
lol i thought the Rang Rover sport or evo is the go to soccer mom car.
A point to in favor of this suv is that it does have the same 4.0L V8 as the turbo. A quick tune for $500-$1000 and your back at 18 PSI, which is Turbo power . Except you now have more rear bias, and better suspension... FOR LESS MONEY than the Cayenne Turbo!
Mastery in engineering meets mastery in documentation 🙌🏻
Another amazing video! Thank you for continuing to provide great, informative and objective content.
Cheers!
You guys are my favorite car reviewers. Love your work.
Great channel, you make a lot of sense, another very good video.
Great video ! The ad still isn’t over and your video hasn’t played yet. But seriously are your videos ever not amazing ?👌🏼
Love Love your Channel!! You really give amazing insight into the cars and seriously unbiased opinions. You have a new viewer for sure! Looking forward to new videos..
Hello guys, I actually stopped everything to view this video and your comments. Well done. I appreciate the objective views of the S and the GTS. Again, I agree with your closing noting the value a customer places on the driving dynamics, rear bias etc. versus the coup. My vote is the GTS.
I absolutely love my 2021 GTS coupe, it is such rush to drive! It is the perfect spec for me!
My brother got the turbo E hybrid coupe it’s awesome, then my mom got a turbo it’s awesome, now I want a GTS because you made it sound awesome
Should also be noted you can tune the GTS to over 700 on 93 with a reflash for about $1000
That ten piston caliper was inspired by the gauge cluster.
Loving the amount of content lately!
The Cayenne Coupe may not be everyone favorites but this helps Porsche keep making our favorite cars like the 911, Cayman, Boxster, Panamera, and also keep the manual gearbox
Props to Porsche💯
Another artful and lovingly filmed episode! TrueType captivating. Thank you both!
The first minute of your video is SO classy 👍 The rest is excellent too.
It would be cool if the all digital screen gauge cluster offered retro gauges from prior Porsche’s. Maybe offer a 959 or 356 option. Pointless maybe but still cool.
Good way to start my Monday morning
Keep up the good reviews....love how you guys do them....
Think it was Burger King that said “Have it your way.” Great videos as always! 👍
Wow! This review was amazing.
90% of the people who buy turbos don't even know what the word means. Apparently, neither does Porsche - see Taycan.
Its a legacy badge, like M and AMG but you like your sedated appliances so die in peace with that
Its a product name.. shall we stop calling air jordans that since theyre not really air??
Your music selection at 15min beginning the driving had me laughing! Well done!
As always, a great review. I have a Macan GTS and I am definitely looking into getting this once I need more space.
Probably the best looking "coupe suv", though I do have a soft spot for the Q8 and GLE coupe.
WTF is with companies using "coupe" for 4-door vehicles?
Marketing. Enough said.
4 door crossover "suvs"
Makes zero sense
@@Dowlphin Yeah but.. to what end? What does calling it "coupe" do for marketing?
@@AnyBodyWannaPeanut Convenient and familiar. They could call it Fastback which even sounds nice, but maybe the "back" already scares them, and then if a car has a little duck tail, it's not a pure fastback anymore.
Don't try to examine marketing people with an expectation of making sense.
VW and their obsession with piano black plastics. It's plagued products amongst all their brands.
They're not the only ones. Idiocy.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH you might want to reread my statement before calling people stupid, stupid. That's a bruhhhh moment.
My 2020 Corolla hatchback has black piano black plastic as well. I'm not happy about it. I can't wipe it clean, because it'll get scratched. So, I just leave it dusty. Faux wood or matte black would have been so much better.
Vw is evil.. look it up. Instead of 996 or 997 or 987 . Every product is a 666
it not only looks like a 2 year old device, in fact it is older than that. thats the beauty of automotive supply chain
They should change the touchpad AC back to all buttons and get rid of the houndstooth(sp?)
BEST review by far.
Would be very interesting to see you guys review the E-Hybrid. Very impressive numbers but I'm not sure how it translates to the drive. How they handle electrification would be fascinating to see.
I love your vids and it's structure. So informative
The perfect car for an Arby’s drive-thru.
I could ask the goose man anything about Porsche in general, I would ask has Porsche as a company improved after the acquisition by VW or would its products have been better if it stayed independent? Keep up the good work Dallas. Truly one of the best channels on here
Turbo please. Im looking at GTS vs turbo. I have had two Cayenne S in past and moving up
These two are taking over the RUclips automotive scene.
15:56 i literally fucking died when it transitioned to this instant thumbs up!
It blows my mind that people can just blow 160Gs on an SUV. Just can’t comprehend being that rich lmao
they all lease their SUVs for the most part. Write them off and sell them after 3-5 years.
And the circle begins again
@@raupenimmersatt6906 - Yep. I suspect most people lease them because they can't afford to buy them outright.
@@hamsterama once your $250,000 in student loans are paid off, and you've built up your reputation and client base as the go-to, then yeah I suppose.
An SUV like this is mostly for the wife of a hedge fund manager specializing in tax evasion.
You almost buy two SQ8's and the SQ8 is already sick.
Is that what one of these would be loaded? Wow 😳
Porsches are starting to grow on me
They're just growing, period.
I like a physical button for everything. I don’t understand the oposition to buttons. If it ain’t broken....
I like how in the beggining he is flashing that windshield wiper money.
With a tune, this car-suv-thing turns into a beast. It's de-tuned so it doesn't encroach on the Turbo's territory.
Wonderful review as always. I always thought these were just rebranded Audis. Nice to see what makes them so different.
love your professional reviews over all vehicles you drove. wish you review Velar SV Autobiography
I have never seen an active sway bar before! Wow
I am content with my bigass-diameter shiny red aftermarket sway bars because they don't really make the ride more unpleasant in my perception because they only tense up a little when bumps are one-sided, and that feels great, especially with the massive reduction of body roll that people otherwise need to get a really awfully hard suspension for. (I'm a total sway bar fan, haha. Behold the glory: g6.owledge.de/myg6/oldengine/stabi_vorne.jpg g6.owledge.de/myg6/oldengine/stabi_hinten.jpg - P.S.: Got a heavier engine now, though, so the effect is a little less, but also much-needed especially now.)
Love this style of review
Thanks Mark,
First I was dreaming about driving this car. Now I have to dream about how to setup the Aura 3D sound.
LOVE the audio section. :)
8 thousand digifunds for a sound system, man.
That's more than half the price of my BMW. Some people just have serious pocket change.
You need it.... that car sounds like a 🚜 when you step on it?? I don’t get it.....
Too many impractical car reviews lately. Where is the new mark8 gti or TLX?
Here in Europe a simple food market makes 100k euros a month in a mid size city. What did You expect.
@@pnourani the mk8 gti won't come to the US until close to the end of next year
I have been looking at these lately and I must say they are impressive. I think I would rather have the Macan at this time but maybe I could pony up for the Cayanne. 🤔
This is going to make a great used vehicle in a number of years. Porsche probably the most reliable within the VW Group so I wouldn't expect massive depreciation like some other luxury brands but to buy this new...man, you had better be wealthy, even to lease it.
The six cylinder Audorsch engine is amazing.
my father got the 2019 cayenne s with sports chrono and the interior is the exact same with bigger space but no rear spoilers
Great honest video!
I’ll tell you why GTS variant actually makes a lot of sense. Looking at the base MSRP it looks like the GTS is way more expensive, but I’ve been cross-buying S Platinum Edition and GTS myself and for my spec, which I’d call average the prices where briefly the same and if I would also checked all of the GTS perks that I didn’t much care about like sport exhaust, alcantara headliner or dimmed lights for the S, the S would be even more expensive, so basicaly you’re getting the V8 upgrade and sportier chassis for free.
After putting some more miles on it I can stress out one more difference in favor of GTS - the low-end torque. It’s in totally different league in GTS, it just feels really punchy, which I cannot say about S. To go fast with a S you need to rev it, it feels fast only when you floor it. GTS always feels fast. I guess that there is just no replacement for displacement.
Solid intro 👌
Hey do you guys think the rear axle steering is worth the money ?
Yes
Thanks for that : )
How can you ask someone what it feels like to drive a Porsche?? There are no two feelings when you drive a Porsche... A Porsche would drive like a Porsche from now till the end of time... That car is a true master piece ☺☺
The "Tall Wagon's" are really taking over.
And because they're tall they generally have poor rides and poor fuel consumption.
Ask your CPA if you can use accelerated depreciation on one of these trucks. Get the tow hitch receiver and use it to transfer horses!
"Like mcdonalds you can have it your way" hmmm i believe thats Burger King lol
Test drove the Cayenne Coupe S and GTS, and IF you can afford the extra cost the GTS is just better. First of all, you're buying one of these because of its attitude, its personality, and the V8 adds tons of character. It's also more punchy at every RPM range, it doesn't suffer from lag down low like the 2.9 V6. The GTS also sits about 1-2 inches lower. which closes up the large wheel gaps the S has compared to the GTS. If you're thinking about spending $1500 a month on an S I say spend $1800 and get the GTS. I'm also curious if the GTS will hold its value better?
Oh good, another luxury SUV coupee. I was worried they were going to stop selling them and everyone who needs one was going to be stuck.
Nahhhh it ain't even as nice as my SUV roadster. Thats the proper direction for Porsche to take everyone knows this.
Final thoughts on the Cayenne GTS: buy a Lexus LC
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Bwaha ha ha...I haven’t thought of it that way. I agree.
A Toyota? Seriously?
You buy the Porche if you have money
The Cayenne is just too damn much. I think the Macan is where its at as far as SUVs go.
True, I dont see why would you get this, if you can have a panamera
Macan back seats are unusable and torque converter automatics work better with turbocharged engines. I’ve driven both a lot and think the Cayenne is a better overall experience.
@@Ficon Macan back seats definitely are not. I can pretty comfortably fit in the back of a Macan at 6'1
@@ach6791 Try putting in car seats.
Yeah, the Mahan is plenty big enough for four adults. Where did we get the idea people should be able to cross their legs in back? That was Rolls Royce-level luxury a generation ago, and now people get all sniffy if a CR-V (or Macan) doesn't offer it.
I drove a Macan S and funny enough I like it more than the Cayenne. It feels a bit more "go karty" than the Cayenne but still as comfortable and far better priced. As for this obsession with black piano gloss trim what is wrong with the manufacturers and customers? The finger prints and dust would drive me nuts and I'd be cleaning it daily. Great review BTW.
You guys do a great job of pros and cons and comparisons which make u guys unique. Nick Murray says that cayenne gts actually has the same horsepower as the turbo cayenne although it is listed as detuned. What is your view in the horsepower? Do you think the power is similar to cayenne s or the turbo? Nick is saying that they listed the horsepower low although they really did not detune the power.
Welcome back
If I had ten cents for every person to whom sound matters, I’d be very wealthy. Sound does matter. When my wife leaves in the morning in our 2021 Cayenne GTS, I still like to listen to the cold start. And when I drive it, especially in sport plus, the sound is intoxicating. In comparison, the S you tested sounded harsh and strained.
NOT WHEN SHE LEAVES MY PLACE
Still waiting on the review of the Lotus Evora GT
Couple weeks out
What your seeing is the law of diminishing returns
That, plus fewer and fewer buyers in that price range to pay for the development costs.
Nice review. So the normal SUV Cayenne and the Cayenne coupe, which one is better?
Goose: I need to know; GLI, Si, Elantra Sport, Forte GT, Soul Turbo, etc. Which do I purchase 2018 and up?
Get yourself and Si.
Wait until after December
Get a Corolla apex
@@michaelrichards2024 i do love the Si
@@sassafrasjoness3167 are you joking? I bet you are
Great work, guys. I just don't get why someone would buy this "coupe" edition that lacks cargo space, which is the main reason to get an SUV in the first place.
When you get into models like this one it's not about, "what you need"; it's all about, "what you want", and whether or not you can afford it.
I'll buy a used one with less than 50k miles and hopefully less than $50k, and I don't care how old they are all well built and fun to drive. It wouldn't be my daily driver, but I've always wanted one and I am running out of time.
Hope you get it soon, if not already! Best wishes!
It's kind of mind blowing that nobody is using gorilla glass on those capacitive touch surfaces. Black plastic scratches instantly and doesn't clean off very well after a while. An oleophobic coating would be great as well, like we've been doing with smartphones for the last decade.
Inb4 $1500 option for gorilla glass scratchproof infotainment touchscreen
@@matthewmatthew638 It's a Porsche. It's a foregone conclusion you're already spending a fuckton of money. They might as well differentiate their gloss black from a 20k Mazda 3.
I strongly suspect they've thought this through and are using whatever glass they need to use for their design requirements. Most piano black is plastic, not glass
Can u please review the Panamera 4 and get into more of this model from Porsche would really appreciate it thanks!
Idk if it's possible but I particularly want to see the 971.1 Panamera 4 and 4s but if you cant the 971.2 is fine as well hope you see this thx.
Piano black plastic is going to be soooo great looking on these as 15 year old cars
the tire wear must be out of this world. 5k and funky suspension system
I like the long sleeve Jack is wearing. How can I purchase one? Didn’t see it in your website....
Red bubble is where we put up our savagegeese swag
@@jackholmes8105 You have five items on Red bubble, but that shirt is not one of them.
@@HJMartinez108 www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/SavageGeese-Nuevo-by-SavageGeese/29702446.121KU sorry redbubble is a pain.
@@jackholmes8105 Purchased. Thank you Jack!