I still remember when this came out, this remix specifically helped me better appreciate the OST of Forces. It made me realize that a lot of the Forces OST’s problems stemmed from instrumentation, and that horrible synth Ohtani used for it. I’m extremely glad he decided to change it for Frontiers. But Forces is stuck with it, the Classic stages have it the worst though. Seeing what happened with Origins I can’t tell if it got the better end of the stick or not, it’s harsh and ear grating… But at least it isn’t annoyingly terrible like Origins, but it was no where near the amazing level that Mania reached, let alone the Classic trilogy. Hell if Ohtani really wanted a classic feel he could have gone with something more like CD since for whatever reason the insisted on using CD’s jump sfx. I’m glad that from what we’ve seen so far, Superstars is going in a different direction for its sound. It isn’t close to Mania in terms of instrumentation sadly, but it isn’t sticking to Genesis synths, nor is it stuck with the terrible attempt at mimicking the Genesis that Origins used. I just hope it isn’t being cherry-picked pre-release, and that the whole game is like what we’ve been shown. While I enjoy a lot of Frontiers OST, I hope the next game strays away from the overuse of synths. I get Ohtani likes it, but it’s all we’ve been getting for almost a decade now. I miss the old natural instrumentation, especially the live recorded instruments that we used to get sometimes, and I most certainly don’t think EDM has much of a place in Sonic, it all kind of blends together and eventually loses its identity. Music tracks are a sort of identifier for Zones and especially characters. EDM blending into itself doesn’t lend it to being recognizable as a certain area theme. Frontiers got away with it since Cyberspace didn’t have its own identity and was a mishmash of random assets and level designs, a quick and easy way to reuse something that was already done for them. So it didn’t really matter if the songs didn’t match the level, but in the future it most certainly will. I just hope Ohtani takes the criticism Frontiers OST has gotten to heart for the next game, or even for the next update depending on its contents.
The long awaited remix is here, and it's AMAZING, I love how you transition between both of your styles, they're so good, I love it, not to mention one of my favorite tracks from the game. Also, I haven't heard any news about this in a long while, so I'm glad it wasn't canceled. It'd be to good to be true if you two did another remix collab
Thank you thank you guys sooo much for doing my request!! I have to say you guys blew this right out of the park! Probably my favorite track from you guys so far. Amazing work on both sides!!
OHH YES!! I finally got around to listening to this with headphones in, and boy did you guys do my favourite song from Sonic Forces justice! I love how much more "dance-y" (for lack of better word) you guys made the song. Thank you for blessing the earth with this wonderful music.
As i said on Lil Bouders video: Im guessing the more guitar parts are lil boulder and the more techno sections are turret? Anyway this is a great remix and a great collab, hopeing for more collabs in the future :)
Thanks! And yeah, most of the synths were mine, as well as the ride, kick, and snare drums, the piano, and the brass section. (and I think there might have been some other drumloop samples I included, but there's other drums that were added by Boulder)
This is MILES better than the original! (again, sorry Ohtani) but maybe that synth would sound better with a little bit less vibrato effect. The guitar sounds excellent too! Really good mix overall.
Yasss it has happened (I was one of the ones that requested a collab) I knew this would be perfect thanks turret and Boulder for this epic collab remix
The first portion of this hits all of the Persona 5 vibes the original hit briefly before switching to full-out Eggmanland synth, and everything else about this is just amazing too!
Sayonara, Lil Boulder. Gone, but not forgotten. You'll always love on in our hearts... and our downloaded playlists. Edit: Nvm, he has RETURNED! His channel has finally vanquished the crypto-hackers and now all of his work has been restored. I'm really pleased about it bc his Forces remixes are fire. Now he'd better back-up his work in case this happens again.
I already put my intelligent comment on Boulder's page, so I guess I'll put my stupid one here. Can I call this a Rock Cannon? Because of the Boulder/Turret combination going here. I'll leave now.
If you could just turn the guitar sound just a little bit down.... Also, when you say Network Terminal, you mean like a multiple websites like the thing that Shadow did? Or a building where there is a giant computer who gaters data from the internet, like the thing facebook is doing, but masive
ok seeing as this is like the only remix of this song that isn't a genesis remix, meme, or bad, could i use this one for overclocked too? Also do I need boulder's permission too or just yours? They don't respond often...
It uh... should be... but the fact that it’s not there anymore makes me assume he joined the cancel culture bandwagon and deleted it just cuz I was involved in the collab
@@Turret3471 aww man 😕 I really don't know the situation and don't mean to pry into things because I know cancel culture is a horrible thing but regardless enjoyed the remix and glad it's still on your channel
@@davidgallegos3014 It's better to be informed about this stuff before taking any sides or doing anything. I'm only aware of what's going on from this tweet mobile.twitter.com/DuckDealer1/status/1347492803643912194?s=19
Important thing to keep in mind is 99% of what they're screaming about is old behavior (like, 3-4 years old, that I've already gotten beat up for when it happened). The remaining 1%, I'm apparently a racist and supported what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6 despite my very obvious uncondoning(?) of said incident. I've got a video in the works right now that'll go into more detail about what happened with me, and why I don't really give a frick that they're doing this cuz I've already moved on from this toxic behavior, I don't wanna be that person anymore and they've deliberately ignored everything I've said and done to make things right.
@@Turret3471 Well good. Its better to adress this topic than to leave it ruining your rep. And even a video wouldn't change what happened, it would show that your owning up to it. 👌
I swear, if there's ever to be a Modern-inspired Mania, (which would be nice given how SEGA doesn't really want to stop with the shameless Genesis nostalgia pandering these days) *you two need to make the soundtrack.* They picked up Tee Lopes, they can pick up you guys (and maybe some other Modern remixers like TNH and Luan)
HyperHunt621 so what, every time someone in the community does something good it's: sega should hire you! Just because mania was good it doesn't mean it should become the norm, fans aren't the answer for everything.
Completely agree'd, this remix is really great, but everybody shouldn't jump to the conclusion of OH THESE FANS SHOULD BE THE ONES MAKING THE MODERN SOUNDTRACK!
Roi Itzkovich yeah it's a bit stupid, fans produce quality shit, but bare in mind that these music pieces are remixes for the most part so they aren't the people that originally compose these arrangements they're just adding to the experience I'd be more up in arms about it if most of these music channels posted their own original music for sonic inspired stages than remixes.
Broey nearly no one is creative enough to compose original songs so they "remake" the songs, BAM, composer, BAM, hire them sega! Really, than people wonder why the sonic fanbase sucks so much, Ohtani composes the music for the series for since 1999 and still does his job greatly, but NO he isn't a fan so his work is terrible! Seriously I had enough out of people who say sonic team should be fired. It's nice to hear there is someone who think the same as I do.
Thanks for having me, it was a pleasure to work with you! 👍 That synth solo is lit
Lil Boulder Heya!!
Please invest in a guitar with active pickups. Will sound a lot cleaner.
RSM oh damn, that thing sounds legit. My bad though
this video is proof that sonic is *literally* holding lil boulder hostage to make sonic remixes for him
can confirm
I'm sonic the kidnapper XD
Now this is a more style of sonic music i think rock music fits perfectly with sonic
*I know a place, where water can cause harm*
*A magical place, with terminal charm*
*Terminal Network, Indoors~ IN DOORRRSS~*
*TAKE IT AWAY SONIC*
*Drowning sound from Sonic 1*
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although this a copy of the one in the video lil made
weird
Didn't want to make this joke exclusive y'know?
That hedgehog has the most beautiful voice. :'(
That was a great SpongeBob reference
Dat guitar though
Turret Boulder Confirmed
A perfect remix combination, great job to you two making an awesome remix
Top 10 -anime- music crossovers
I love your remixes. They are heart pumping and catchy as hell. Please keep them coming. Like Network Terminal (outside)
I still remember when this came out, this remix specifically helped me better appreciate the OST of Forces. It made me realize that a lot of the Forces OST’s problems stemmed from instrumentation, and that horrible synth Ohtani used for it. I’m extremely glad he decided to change it for Frontiers. But Forces is stuck with it, the Classic stages have it the worst though. Seeing what happened with Origins I can’t tell if it got the better end of the stick or not, it’s harsh and ear grating… But at least it isn’t annoyingly terrible like Origins, but it was no where near the amazing level that Mania reached, let alone the Classic trilogy. Hell if Ohtani really wanted a classic feel he could have gone with something more like CD since for whatever reason the insisted on using CD’s jump sfx.
I’m glad that from what we’ve seen so far, Superstars is going in a different direction for its sound. It isn’t close to Mania in terms of instrumentation sadly, but it isn’t sticking to Genesis synths, nor is it stuck with the terrible attempt at mimicking the Genesis that Origins used. I just hope it isn’t being cherry-picked pre-release, and that the whole game is like what we’ve been shown. While I enjoy a lot of Frontiers OST, I hope the next game strays away from the overuse of synths. I get Ohtani likes it, but it’s all we’ve been getting for almost a decade now.
I miss the old natural instrumentation, especially the live recorded instruments that we used to get sometimes, and I most certainly don’t think EDM has much of a place in Sonic, it all kind of blends together and eventually loses its identity. Music tracks are a sort of identifier for Zones and especially characters. EDM blending into itself doesn’t lend it to being recognizable as a certain area theme. Frontiers got away with it since Cyberspace didn’t have its own identity and was a mishmash of random assets and level designs, a quick and easy way to reuse something that was already done for them. So it didn’t really matter if the songs didn’t match the level, but in the future it most certainly will. I just hope Ohtani takes the criticism Frontiers OST has gotten to heart for the next game, or even for the next update depending on its contents.
Dang this is tight, well done you two!
I'm happy hearing this,and seeing this two making a Collab.
What an unexpected crossover! You two did great with this remix!
The long awaited remix is here, and it's AMAZING, I love how you transition between both of your styles, they're so good, I love it, not to mention one of my favorite tracks from the game.
Also, I haven't heard any news about this in a long while, so I'm glad it wasn't canceled. It'd be to good to be true if you two did another remix collab
Thank you thank you guys sooo much for doing my request!! I have to say you guys blew this right out of the park! Probably my favorite track from you guys so far. Amazing work on both sides!!
_Derpy Lilac_ requested this? NO WAY!
A collab by two of my favorite artists. This is phenomenal. Amazing job!
*excitedly claps* I like it that I can differentiate the other instruments.
Gonna agree with Matthew, it is catchy and heart pumping as he said.
I listen to the music of your channel as well as Lil Boulder's channel. I love it!
Oh man, you hit a home run once again Turret! This guy's pretty good too, great job you two!
OHH YES!! I finally got around to listening to this with headphones in, and boy did you guys do my favourite song from Sonic Forces justice! I love how much more "dance-y" (for lack of better word) you guys made the song. Thank you for blessing the earth with this wonderful music.
As i said on Lil Bouders video: Im guessing the more guitar parts are lil boulder and the more techno sections are turret? Anyway this is a great remix and a great collab, hopeing for more collabs in the future :)
Thanks! And yeah, most of the synths were mine, as well as the ride, kick, and snare drums, the piano, and the brass section. (and I think there might have been some other drumloop samples I included, but there's other drums that were added by Boulder)
Yeah i was thinking that :) Its really good and probably if not the best remix iv heard of this song :)
This is MILES better than the original! (again, sorry Ohtani) but maybe that synth would sound better with a little bit less vibrato effect. The guitar sounds excellent too!
Really good mix overall.
Once again two amazing musicians of course it will be a good remix
Edit: and it was a great remix
When two music Gods collide...
TC Music I want to be a music God, too. Are you still going to make that tutorial video?
Yasss it has happened (I was one of the ones that requested a collab) I knew this would be perfect thanks turret and Boulder for this epic collab remix
ayo, Next time you remix, a new challenger will approach c:
TNHGameRemixes [Nebula] Want to do a collaboration with me? I do this sorta thing! Join me on my discord if you want to this Wednesday! :D
TNHGameRemixes [Nebula] Yea a new challenger, like me! ):) ⬅️[That's my challenge emoticon]
The first portion of this hits all of the Persona 5 vibes the original hit briefly before switching to full-out Eggmanland synth, and everything else about this is just amazing too!
This remix is so long I could complete 4 stages of Sonic Forces before it's over.
If you both made the internal and external version I would DIE
This remix is good good job
My kinda jam, I like your original additions to this also. Great work as always.
I like it. A more chill and jazzy than the original
My Favorite Remix Of This Song
I was about to say "Wasn't this uploaded earlier today?"
Now I realize I'm subbed to both of y'all.
Awesome!
This remix is fantastic! I also love combining it with the original song, as they compliment each other surprisingly well at times!
This is actually pretty good
Perfect. 2 of the best Sonic Forces remixers in one collab. Sweet!
Sounds fantastic as always, great job :)
I know I'm late but this shit is straight fire
You guys have the best remixes I know!
If you collab again, what are the chances that you’ll do the outside next?
Epic Crossover
Hah, this sounds really nice! My regards to Boulder as well, I think I need to check out his stuff as well
Bro...Just Amazing
holy fuck yes we need more crossovers like this
bro amazing work
Woooow sounds great!!! :O
Now THIS is what Network Terminal could of sounded like
Amazing!!
Please make more I love listening to these!
'd better get on that Egg Gate, boi
*your wish is OUR command* ;) ;)
GOD it's been FOUR YEARS?!?!
And where is Boulder's video? It's gone :(
No idea. I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt to ask him why he took it down
This is beautiful.
Nice song, hope to see more like this one on the future!! +sub
Now this is awesome. Nice work, you guys.
This is giving me Sonic mania vibes.
Sayonara, Lil Boulder. Gone, but not forgotten. You'll always love on in our hearts... and our downloaded playlists.
Edit: Nvm, he has RETURNED! His channel has finally vanquished the crypto-hackers and now all of his work has been restored. I'm really pleased about it bc his Forces remixes are fire. Now he'd better back-up his work in case this happens again.
had to check if there was still a link to his channel anywhere to see what happened
what in the world
@@Turret3471 I think they'll come back sooner or later because a lot of creators I knew got hacked and got their channel back
You can definitely tell which parts are Boulder and which parts are Turret
I already put my intelligent comment on Boulder's page, so I guess I'll put my stupid one here.
Can I call this a Rock Cannon? Because of the Boulder/Turret combination going here.
I'll leave now.
Nice remix of Ocean Base
It’s not a remix of Ocean Base. What are you talking about?
Please do outside network terminal next!!! Please!!
Turrent Boulder - Network Terminal Zone (Act 2) - Kirby Discovery
*LoyalTEE trumpets in the background*
E A R G A S M
Lil Boulder looks a little worried by Sonic Forces.....
I would be too.
even when remixed I still get persona vibes
Turret using Korg Trumpets? That's different. Also you might as well do majority or the whole OST.
pretty much what I hope to accomplish. XD
Sounds like it came straight from SMT digital devil saga
Top 10 anime combos
You should work together more often because this is $100000000000
If you could just turn the guitar sound just a little bit down....
Also, when you say Network Terminal, you mean like a multiple websites like the thing that Shadow did? Or a building where there is a giant computer who gaters data from the internet, like the thing facebook is doing, but masive
ok seeing as this is like the only remix of this song that isn't a genesis remix, meme, or bad, could i use this one for overclocked too?
Also do I need boulder's permission too or just yours? They don't respond often...
Can you and/or Boulder make one for the outside please? Aka, the good part of the song.
Request. Flying Battery Zone remix.
P
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Sounds like sonic adventure
...persona 5 vibes, strangely enough
Wasn't this on Lil Boulders channel too? I can't seem to find it 🤔
It uh... should be... but the fact that it’s not there anymore makes me assume he joined the cancel culture bandwagon and deleted it just cuz I was involved in the collab
@@Turret3471 aww man 😕 I really don't know the situation and don't mean to pry into things because I know cancel culture is a horrible thing but regardless enjoyed the remix and glad it's still on your channel
@@davidgallegos3014
It's better to be informed about this stuff before taking any sides or doing anything. I'm only aware of what's going on from this tweet
mobile.twitter.com/DuckDealer1/status/1347492803643912194?s=19
Important thing to keep in mind is 99% of what they're screaming about is old behavior (like, 3-4 years old, that I've already gotten beat up for when it happened). The remaining 1%, I'm apparently a racist and supported what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6 despite my very obvious uncondoning(?) of said incident. I've got a video in the works right now that'll go into more detail about what happened with me, and why I don't really give a frick that they're doing this cuz I've already moved on from this toxic behavior, I don't wanna be that person anymore and they've deliberately ignored everything I've said and done to make things right.
@@Turret3471
Well good. Its better to adress this topic than to leave it ruining your rep. And even a video wouldn't change what happened, it would show that your owning up to it. 👌
When will you do arsenal pyramid interior
What were those slight vocals I heard in the background?
Question? Do you still upload on scratch?
Barely. I still go on Scratch to check messages and stuff, but it's a rare occasion for me to actually post stuff there.
*_heh,death water_*
Outdoor version anyone?
Put it on 1.25x speed
😀😀😀😃
Hey quick question. Did Sega hold u hostage to create music for sonic mania?
Wait... Lil Boulder is a boy!?
Always has been.
Sorry I was making my Custom Avatar
The guitar ruined every single ones of my expectations xD
I really do feel the guitar ruins the song. Lil Boulder's guitar sample was never amazing but it just doesn't fit in this. Still, it's ok I guess.
I swear, if there's ever to be a Modern-inspired Mania, (which would be nice given how SEGA doesn't really want to stop with the shameless Genesis nostalgia pandering these days) *you two need to make the soundtrack.*
They picked up Tee Lopes, they can pick up you guys (and maybe some other Modern remixers like TNH and Luan)
HyperHunt621 so what, every time someone in the community does something good it's: sega should hire you!
Just because mania was good it doesn't mean it should become the norm, fans aren't the answer for everything.
Completely agree'd, this remix is really great, but everybody shouldn't jump to the conclusion of OH THESE FANS SHOULD BE THE ONES MAKING THE MODERN SOUNDTRACK!
Broey yeah it's like: if it's not made by fans it's bad. Nearly every sonic fan went fan obsession.
Roi Itzkovich yeah it's a bit stupid, fans produce quality shit, but bare in mind that these music pieces are remixes for the most part so they aren't the people that originally compose these arrangements they're just adding to the experience I'd be more up in arms about it if most of these music channels posted their own original music for sonic inspired stages than remixes.
Broey nearly no one is creative enough to compose original songs so they "remake" the songs, BAM, composer, BAM, hire them sega!
Really, than people wonder why the sonic fanbase sucks so much, Ohtani composes the music for the series for since 1999 and still does his job greatly, but NO he isn't a fan so his work is terrible!
Seriously I had enough out of people who say sonic team should be fired. It's nice to hear there is someone who think the same as I do.
Sorry, just never liked this jazzy theme. Not my type.