"IMPOSSIBLE!" Milling Machine from a Drill Press
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Makes for a fun toy suitable for Wood Elves. I discovered in a recent project that milling machines are super useful for woodworking. I had a hunch I could convert a cheap drill press into a crappy milling machine. I added a flea bay XY table and differentially heated the Morse Taper drill shank to get it to chooch. kinda. ✪►www.etsy.com/ca/listing/464202928/one-rule-to-ruler-them-all-cheeky-jokes◄✪
✪► / ave ◄✪
I really want to meet this guy.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm Sorry man, you got that DiResta stamp in your passport. You'd get denied entry into Kanuckistan. But you can listen at the door and whack off like the King of Random. You get used to his muffled sobs.
Barnacules Nerdgasm same here
omg AvE you savage
Goofing on yer buds in the shop? That's a paddlin'.
AvE that was cool.
How to turn a drill into a mill. You will need; 1) A mill. 2) A Lathe.
Maybe too late, but you can also file the thing. Whatever you call it. Not fluent in English.
😂😂😂😂
Hammer
Au con-air, mon ami.. quite the noble endeavour!
had my doubts at first.. until the classical music and laser cross hairs, that is.
"IT'S A PROCESS!"
Good eye on the tolerance reducing LAZERS! Your crappy drill press would benefit from an aftermarket kit.
AvE ....are you still having problems receiving private messages? Just curious is all
what's up tony! Love your videos!
no
this is fucking sorcery. i literally spent all day converting my drill press into a mill and then you posted this video. WHY CANT I LIKE MORE THAN ONCE
Like fuck he did, you probably think my drill converted to a lathe is wasted time and money too.
How so? He took something he had already and then converted it into something else.
metalhead2508 funny thing is, I didn't spend a dime, and it works well also. Had a damn good time doing it too. Wouldn't say that's a waste
oh no, he used stuff he already owned for a different purpose! The poor fool. Your just jealous you aren't having fun in the shop too
cylo lloyd a
I miss these classic AvE videos. Anyone else here in 2024?
im going through the backlog myself.
I tried to turn my cheapo drill press into a milling machine a few months ago. Ended up with a very sad drill press and spent thousands on "proper" machine tools which I have no real idea how to use. Now I'm addicted to buying all of the things that I didn't know I needed to run my mills and lathes. It's worse than crack cocaine boys. Heed my warning and stay off the slippery slope.
It really is tho. Tools cost more than drugs do.
but at least you have the nice tools to fuck shit up with over and over. then when you figure it all out, you can sell it......lol half the fun is learning what not to do, tools last, the dope well its short lived, loved when he fired up the morse bit thinging majabob.. holy fuck thats bad, probly better of with just the jacobs chuck,,,,,, or when using the reamer,,,omg oh well lets just keep going and see if we trash the hole thing,,,, funny vid, i needed the laugh and yeah ive tried stuf like this,,,,,,,,,, i turned the crank shaft of a side shaft lawn mower engine to fit a clutch / gear pully for an old snow througher,,, put motor in vise, started it up and used a hand grinder to get close and a file to finish off,,,, hell i made a firing pin from a drill bit in a small drill press and used a file to cut it, both worked, and i didnt spend for a mill or lathe, though i would love to have them
"when I die, I hope my wife does not sell my tools for the price I said I've paid for them"...
Keep on trucking (from France) !
+Will S.,
Machine shop tools may cost more than illicit drugs by weight, though used properly, are safer, and far less likely to put you in the grave.
They are also objects of production, not products of destruction.
I know where to put some of my discretionary funds!
Too late! I’m hooked... bad! I love to take my turn at the wheels.
Go till the belt smokes then adjust feed accordingly
This sounds about right.
Then bike chain and sprockets...
go till she cracks then back off a quarter turn
0.o
bet that'd make a hell of a racket.
Go till you see sparks, then cut it back a bit.
I worked with a 90yo machinist years ago and he was able to make his drill press work as a reasonably accurate mill by building a ring with a set of three bearings that surrounded the chuck to give it extra lateral support - like a spindle support rest for wood lathe work. The plate was supported by a bar that had an adjustable mount on the side of the drill press.
How to make a milling machine from a drill press. Step 1. Aquire milling machine and lathe X'D
Love you Uncle Bumblefuck :)
farmerwoody123 my thoughts exactly
What some people don't understand is like this: You can actually perform the necessary mill / lathe work with a friendly machinist's tools And then, you can also adapt your "inexpensive" drill press to also be used as a milling machine. My fav Gunsmith uses one of his best/ oldest drill presses in a pinch, (for simple / quick tasks), whenever the main milling machines are busy. Thank you for another Great video & God Bless!🙏🇺🇸
Here's why I really love this channel. There are some fields where the "experts" seem to want to make the field seem as inaccessible as possible. People who want you to think that they're doing magic with electronics design, for example.
But, it isn't magic. And you can totally just screw around with it and make cool stuff.
A lot of guys look at machining like it's this crazy holy sacred fucking "do not breathe on those tools wrong" "can't do it unless your beard is this grey and your suspenders are this wide" thing, but it isn't.
Basically: if old uncle dr professor bumblefuck over here can take a $12 aluminum (wat) chinese xy table, and have a good time with it, then anybody else can too.
AVE: taking one for the team and just setting the bar so goddamn low that you can't even trip over it on your way to harbor freight.
Ryan Mcdermott lmaooo 😆💀💀 so true!
Best reply brother!
Bro, you are the only machinist I watch on YT. I’ve learned a ton and applied some of your tricks in my own setup. Believe it or not, I’ve used some of your methods in my carpentry, with flawless results. Keep the vids coming! Thanks for what you do.
I think I'll turn my drill (just a drill, not a press) into a mill. I need zip ties and some 2x4s.
Dude I’m laughing that I’m seeing you here and this comment is awesome hahaha
They sell metal zip ties
What are YOU doing here Jake?!!
2x2s and pool noodles will work just fine.
Defo sticking with ya. ALL the anger and hate forgotten whilst watching your vids have saved sooooo many lives!
SQUAD! Sup?
sup
Stoned to the bone
AvE aye!
impossible!
The Schmoo shart is fantastic. Mine arrived a few days ago.
I did this exact thing 3 years ago with reasonably good “success”. I went ahead and drilled the quill for a small drawbar and was able to use MT2 end mill holders. It left a lot to be desired but I was able to use it with some success. I’m happy to say I have a Bridgeport now and the drill press is in the wood shop doing what it should have been doing all along.
As Ian7 said below:
"Make my horror freight $49 spinamathinger into a clapped out Bridgeport! You're my hero bud"
Its really refreshing to hear a normal human being talk with such funny comments and that down to earth feel. Good video man, subscribed.
AVE! Wisconsin loves you... Well not "love" but a very strong like!
Cool. That love nonsense makes me cringe like sitting on old Uncle Johanus' knee.
we like you strongly enough to keep coming back for more
at least you aren't sitting on Uncle Touchys' knee
Mike Duening
You're saying Wisconsin loves him in a heterosexual way, as in Best Friends Forever. EH?
They call it milsucky for a reason! :D Though green bay is not much better...
I am in the mechanical field as a powerhouse mechanic & machinist. Still somewhat young but I hope by the end of my career I have half the knowledge that you have accrued.
Have you ever needed a Crap-tacular milling machine but all you have in your shop is a cheap drill press, an lathe and a milling machine?!?!? well my good sir, you are in luck!
I love your videos sir. That was in no way a dig at you. your videos are always entertaining and I have learned a lot from watching. You have inspired me to do things that I never would have otherwise. Thank you sir!
Have you ever needed a Crap-tacular *milling machine* but all you have in your shop is a cheap drill press, an lathe and a *milling machine* ?!?!?
Do you feel the irony?
My sarcasm senses are tingling
I am back on my drill press to light duty milling machine project. Just purchased a cast iron milling table for it on ebay. It cost $138 and weighs 66 pounds which is more than the 16 pounds? that the aluminum ones weigh. Will post a vid of it when it is done. The mass of the cast iron should help eliminate chatter. wont flex like the aluminum ones Some people overwork mill/drills and call them crap. They are less rigid... which means you take smaller cuts and not try to hog it out in just one pass. Takes longer with smaller cuts but it prevents vibrating or flexing the machine. Take your time and let the cutter do its job and not force it.
I'm way late watching this but funny is timeless - cheers and thanks for the fun!
Better late than never hey bro ( 2 - years - laterrrrr...)
@@pienapple6969 Haha :)
Late? Then I must be pregnant
Thank you very kindly! Was planning a Bubba-mill myself but you saved me the embarresment, not really up to making replacement parts for percussion lock.....
In the next episode, he will have it converted to CNC.
This guy is not afraid to push the limits and try something different and show it all. Very good !
Reminds me of making a lower receiver out of a block with a jig. Love DIY machining. awesome vid!
Those kind of videos are the best for young people who just started with fabricationing, machining, etc.: Funny, informative, and showing the actual process of making things without hiding failure. I imagine just gazing at a finished shiny prototype won't teach you that much. Thank you for making these videos, I definetly learned a shitton from them!
You're killing me with the Morris man.
Andrew Delashaw no, there is definitely an intentional "i" sound in there
Certainly not in English.
Always like a RUclips guy who is not afraid to show "fails." Well done - now I know I can make my own AR receiver with a Harbor Freight drill press. (Maybe. . .)
You're my hero! I love how you do things that you know are totally bonkers wrong but still keep going. I started life as a Machinist / Fitter and have since become a pencil pushing engineer. You have restored my faith in humanity. I salute you!
You curse with a creativity I have not yet seen before. Such perfection, such is beauty.
brass flakes dancing
in plastic snow
over the falls
Beautiful man beautiful.
If you take off your glasses, and turn off your hearing aid... that thing works skookum as frig!
Your butter than the rest
Nice Haiku. We are all lathed to rest.
That was really an excellent explanation ,not like the many other videos where no word is said and the camara shakes all the time .Thank you !
well played... and for the record, you could easily be a writer for a comedy series with your normal adjectives and adverbs.
keep doing what you're doing, there is no other quite like you and I say that in the best way possible
I love that shot of the Boxford's chuck spinning with the numbers on the jaws going "1", "2", "3" like a flick-book.
best part ever is when he said "This old Tony". i fell out of my chair.
On occasion I do appreciate him directing me towards more serious information sources.
Diboguy if only he uploaded as often AvE! They are both in my top 5 favorite channels
Came across this today looking for drill press tricks cuz I got a chineasium drill press from my step dad.... put a $2 capacitor on it and now I got a running chineasium drill press and wanted to mill wood.... I owe you a lunch, in your shop followed by pats on the backs. I really enjoyed your attitude about "I got an idea I wanna try" and the way you went about it. I got none of those tools, wish I had. The music selection, perfect! My imagination has you in private school, piano lessons, headed down your parents path of destruction when you suddenly said... I got an idea.... how about I do what I want.... and off you went. Thanks for this video, not that I will ever get around to implementing anything you did because I ... well ok maybe I will, somehow. But just listening to you work things out.. .. .. it was therapeutic. Thanks.
11:16 - 11:53 -- How to Mill a 5/16" Slot with a 1/4" End Mill...
I laughed so hard at this
I love the assumable success that aVe has recently been portraying but I kinda miss the 5 years ago aVe, cheers man
Remove the Jacobs from the Morse and plunge the Morse down onto the drill bit and ream and you will know it is centered because it has machined itself.
Use 2 extended length bits of smaller diameter and keep plunging the smaller one right up through the Morse and the quill. Then remove the Morse, install the larger extended length bit and plunge down to re-drill the quill out to a larger size that will accommodate a long bolt, tap the top of the Morse for that bolt's threads, and now you have a draw bar.
Now replace the bearings with tapers and install pointed set screws just above the upper bearing so that when extended the points ramp against the upper edge of the upper bearing's outer race and hold the bearings in oppositional tension against the shaft. This will really help with run-out, but you are not done yet, you need to stabilize the Quill sleeve inside the head frame which you do by tapping 3 holes in the frame at the muzzle and the top, and install bolts with set nuts in each hole with a small pellet of Teflon or UHMW (or Delrin or whatever) as a sliding surface against the Quill sleeve, and you can now finely adjust and true out the quill sleeve within the frame.
Replace the drive belt with a Harbor Freight segmented drive belt so it won't slip against a load.
You need a coolant sprayer so put a Cat litter box under the table with an aquarium pump and run some tubing up to the head and down a length of coil flex tubing and cap the tubing with a reamed out irrigation dripper, fill the litter box with a couple inches of coolant and adjust the flex tubing to hold the dripper above whatever you are cutting.
Now you have a baby Bridgeport for about $300, and it's a quite capable little mill for your investment. A very handy thing to have I can assure you.
You can also make a nice little lathe out of a drill press mounted horizontally, but that is another post...
Karen Audrey Todd king dude, you need to shoot a youtubevideo of whatyou described, i bedit wouldgeta lot of hits!
this is more what I was expecting him to do. he ended up doing all that work just to end up putting the bit in the chuck and buy a cross slide table haha
This is great, I just picked up and old HEavy drill press the motor was chooched and I wanted to see if I could make into a crude mill just for things like that, thanx so much this will make it a lot easier! I plan to make brass pieces for the dash board of my '51 international.
AvE, you're too much man! I'm with Barnacles. I must say I dig the shout outs between all of you guys, who I regularly watch. I don't need no stinkin cable!
Those old 50's and 60's metal lathes are so well built, its good to see people still using old tools that work well
I was always told never to try this because of the Morse taper issue. I have an old ShopSmith that uses a 5/8 arbor instead of the Morse taper to attach the Jacobs Chuck. Would this be a good candidate for small hobby milling operations? Love the video, you are both funny and educational 👍
I love it, you're using your milling machine and lathe to make a milling machine out of a drill press. This is why I love your channel
I have that drill press. I haven't been able to kill it. It puzzles me.
Never left a comment in a You Tube video before, but this is outstanding! This guy should have his own show! Awesome !
AvE turning crappy tools into crappier tools for crappy tools since 2012
You should check out some of the older youtube videos of people milling 80% AR-15 FCG's with el-cheapo chinese drill presses. I've done it once and never will again. But it's possible. Never had the press loosen up in ~3 hours of milling.
Hughes Enterprises It works like a charm with a handheld router, though. You can buy end mills and jigs made just for one.
I wish the router jig had been out 6 years ago. Pulling a loose jig around a stationary mill by hand wasn't exactly fun, but it did work. Especially plunging into the material holding the jig with one hand, lowering the mill with the other hand.
I got them all beat. I did it with a die grinder.
Hughes Enterprises rr
If you get a carbide bit spinning fast enough, they can mill aluminum with minimal effort. I chucked 2 flute carbide end mills into a Dremel just so I can remove some materials quickly (part was too big to fit into mill, and it was a part of the mill, meaning I need that part in it to mill anything at all!)
Forget about precision here... general woodworking tolerance is about the best you can get here.
thanks for your unique presentation style and go deep into what makes things work. I nutted up enough to take apart my failing Dyson air mover and put her back together working better than when I started. 5 hours later and a sore back, its a win I'm happy with. gracias.
When he turns it on the first time, I about cried from laughing.
Your colloquialism are GEMS! I need to make business cards quoting you! Keep up the great work!
Just to poke fun:
"How to make your own mill? Just need another mill and lathe"
So to make a crappy milling machine, you need a good milling machine & a lathe. Perfect Logic! Gotta love some AvE
I learned a lesson today. Not 100% sure what it is but i feel like i been schooled. My wife’s closet seems less complicated. All i need is a lathe and a milling machine and i can finally turn my bench press into a miller?
It all makes sense now.
this like the woman’s thought process. yeah?
listening to you takes me back to my teens in welding class. Cheers eh.
Morris is for dancing. That's a Morse taper -- like the dit/dah code guy.
Good stuff. Such descriptive and colourful language.
guess who's back, back again
Dorky old white guy reporting for duty!
AvE oh my good shit
AvE's back, tell a... well seeing what the fuck just happened here it's probably better not to tell your friend xD
Got that right, Pawel. A price we pay for entertainment.
Shady's back, tell a friend
That's more than adequate for my needs. Machining faceplates for synth gear. Love it.
lmfao Love the reaction to turning on the press with the new taper installed.
Just a flat out "Holy Fuck" at the sight of the wobble.
Although it is the Jacobs he is using if a person knows the limitations of the head then it could be made to work for a very long time doing extremely light passes. However you cannot expect any type of accuracy with something like that but it sure beats the poor man's mill (angle grinder). This is at the very least a step up from that and would suit most (mill for fun) people at home. And if for some reason the bearing blows out then replace it with a bearing designed to take side loads better and do like he is planning on and get a collet to hold the end mills.
A very cheap solution for someone who can't afford to buy a mill but owns a drill press and needs to make a relatively straight cut. And I have seen folks cut side rails on a 1911 frame with a dremel mounted to wood and 3 cut off wheels. At least something like this would provide a bit more accuracy and end up with much better rail cuts.
Appreciated the J.S Bach!
I had similar thoughts about transforming a drill press into a milling machine but now will not bother-it'll never work so thanks for that little lesson.
Agreed, the piano soothed what looked like a very vibrational experience.
You piano playing is getting really friggin good..
I did this with my drill press last year to work some G10. Worked beautifully!
if anybody is wondering what to get first a mill or a lathe, keep this in mind: a lathe is the only machine that can reproduce itself.
Tyler Hensley how exactly are you going to make a headstock, bed, saddle, cross slide, tailstock, ways, etc with a lathe
hopper1 yeah I can make square stuff on the lathe if I have to.
Pungo Machungie how are you going to make lead screws, quills, pulleys, shafts, knobs, bolts, tapers, etc on a mill? and yes, set up correctly you can make every single thing you just mentioned on a lathe.
you can mill on a lathe you can't lathe on a mill. OK small parts that the dimensions or finish doesn't matter maybe.... I not only know it's possible but I have milled lots of things on my lathe.
Tyler Hensley they make mill lathes it literally is a lathe in the milling bed
The only guy that makes machining videos that can cause the giggles in a grown man. LOL! I friggin' love you AvE.
What's the brand on the Chinesium Grade XY table? If I may.
Terry Leigh Its a Sum Dum Fuck model!
www.banggood.com/Miniature-Precision-Milling-Machine-Bench-Multifunction-Drill-Vise-Fixture-Worktable-p-1027924.html?p=M72202225762201307PL
Sum Ting Wong Machine Tool Co. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Ho Lee Fuk Aerospace Corporation.
whys it 72 canadian pacos when he paid 12 freedom dollars?
There is a few different designs, if you search milling machine on aliexpress it brings up heaps with other prices.
All neighbors need to be like this guy.
Moral of the story: every hole is Morse taper 2
@Alastair I'm guessing probably bigger than 2 inches.
This guy is awesome to listen too. He could take about anything and make it sound interesting. I wonder what he looks like?
To make a milling machine, first, you need a milling machine. :D
It's late to tell you now, but milling attachments that use the lathe you have are available. You could have bolted the X Y table to the cross slide on an angle plate, then secured milling cutters in the chuck. You a took a lot of effort to get poor mill function out of a drill press. You can still go back to the lathe. The xy table on the drill press does make accurately positioning holes easy.
Never discount the irony of using a Bridgeport mill to convert a drill press to a mill!
You make me a little crazy with your antics but also make me laugh. You are right. On things but your verbiage(note the usage), cracks me up.
Oh, yeah, I’m a machinist. Maybe that’s why you entertain me
that's a hell of a speed wobble
I have to say it's nice to see things not work. I do lots of little projects and about half end up in the recycling. Great video. Thanks
Do a friggin workshop tour!
Nice I bought a Delta Bench top Drill press a few years back just for doing just this, just haven't rounded up all of the extras for it to finish it, good to know I was on the right track for a hobby mill :)
Yea the school metal shop heirarchy
if you didn't mess up on the drill press you could eventually use the lathe (which was a boxford a lot like the one here)
if you didn't mess up on the lathe you could eventually use the milling machine.
BUT if you couldn't even use the drill press properly... WOODWORK
my school was lame, no metalworking, just woodworking
I'm from México, ando mly school teach me how yo Stealth things
I'm in an epic battle with a sore throat, and I need some time to wake up before getting prepared for work. 11:15 resulted in a laugh, and the laugh resulted in a two minute painful bout of coughing. You're drillmill has brought pain upon the world. And I love it.
I need a video for if my masculine bits dont chooch no more. For a friend
Branden Mays
beer goggles, poor man's Viagra.
I think I kept my dick in the vise for too long. I mean my friend did...
not hard as a coffin nail?
He just did a BOLTR on this. Hitachi back massager. Use it as a front massager and your laughing instead of her.
After a long day at work this video put a big smile on my face. you poor soul. keep the vids coming
You, Sir, are a National Treasure. I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard.
Glad you have relaxing music. It takes some of the wobble out.
>When you need dustoff for your project, but you are Canadian so you already huffed it all.
Ave, it wouldn't surprise me if I already wrote this two years ago but a third axis attachment on the lathe is far preferable to the small, vertical turning you can to on a mill. Have not you ever heard, the lathe is the one machine that can make it's self? Well, until DMLS, 3D printers came out anyway but nobody can afford the ones what make the good finishes.
Today I'll make a milling machine using only my lathe and another milling machine.
🐿 📿🪢📣
Thanks for this video. Before watching this I was thinking of converting a drill press. You have shown me how much of a bad idea this is, so now I have a proper milling machine for my garage antics.
Not all heroes wear capes
I use to do this when i was a kid i just used the chuck boy i wish i had a table like that back then. brought back some memory she did. cool video
Very crappy indeed....but 10.000 times less crappy than not having a mill!
Well done!
Your videos entertain me on a level that I don't even understand.
Can you post a link to the x/y table you found? Stick it in the doobly do maybe?
Chinabay..krhm ebay is full of em
As a guy that builds & races hobby-grade radio controlled offroad trucks, I've always wondered how possible this would be. A rig like this would be the cat's ass for making little parts out of stuff like polycarbonate, graphite, nylon, even aluminum if I needed it to.
Thanks large for making this vidjayo, I might actually go out & start pricing out components for myself now :)
How to turn your drill press into a mill
Use your mill to make parts to convert your drill press to a mill
So is AvE an actual engineer? Because he is spot on for just about everything as far as his theory goes!
Well not very stout , I suppose you could mill cheese.
Good enough for dead tree carcasses, at least that's what I do for small projects that require "artistic" precision...
Brian MacLeod looks stout enough to rough out and finish by hand a sight installation on a beater 1911 slide which is all I'm looking at.
Jigsaws where invented to piss me off I think.
Love the colorful metaphors!
so, you're saying I need to get a mill so I can convert my drill press into a mill? lol :P