We have had our 2016 Honda Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe for 6 years now. 2500 miles! No problems and love it from front to back. We have installed almost every option available on it, winch, windshield,3p top, back roll up cover, under dash storage etc. 100% love it
I bought Honda 1000-5 last year. Awesome machine. The extra seats do come in handy for the nephews and neices. I live in a rural area my wife and I just go for rides 50 mile radius. You won't be disappointed if you buy a Honda. Enjoy ours.
My buddy is a diehard Honda fan. He has rode dirt bikes since he was a kid. We are in our middle 50s. He bought a Honda Pioneer 750. We hunted with it for a few years. He traded it in and got the 1000 to have power steering. He had problems with his Pioneer over heating in low range. Just two of us, he's about 160 lbs, and I'm 205 lbs with 100 lbs of gear ( guns, ammo, water, tools, etc). My buddy took it back to the dealer. Still had problems. He knows farmers that use these to pull spray trailers and other farm work and they have had problems too. I told my buddy that it looks like the fan shroud needs to be sealed off better. And another friend from work said he could probably make something up. So my buddy dropped off his Pioneer at our friend's house. He took measurements and went shopping at the local wrecking yard he frequents. He found a bigger fan with a shroud that seals better to the radiator. It came from a Honda car and had the same connector. This made a huge difference. We are in the central valley of California and deer hunt around Coalinga where the temperatures are over 100 degrees. Also, many people use the buggies that have belts, including the game wardens. And they have broken belts and had walk through the rough terrain back to get help. You won't be sorry getting one for yourself. I wish I could afford one for my little ranch.
It's hard to beat the Pioneer. I had one for few years and loved it. The throttle responsiveness did take some getting used to if you had ever owned a CVT type SXS, but grew to love that about it as well. I put over 1500 miles on mine in 2 and half years. Sold it during the shortage early this past year as I needed a larger trailer more that I needed a SXS. Great video showcasing it's strong and weak points. I agree with all the points you made.
We love our Pioneer 1000. It’s a 2020 with 4,600 miles. Haven’t done anything to it but maintenance. If they add more notches in the bed like the rangers, make a heavier built tailgate & fix the slow speed jerk, there wouldn’t be a single complaint from me. I use it on the farm, on fence jobs & as somewhat of a replacement for my truck when I’m going anywhere in a reasonable distance from home. It goes amazingly well in turf mode (I assume because it’s well balanced). The great payload & towing capacity paired with the ability to cruise comfortably 50-55mph without winding on it makes it great for what I ask of mine.
@@fueledtohunt2173 That I haven’t. As long as you’ve got a decent flow rate on your sprayer & can apply at at least 2-3 miles an hour you’d be golden. It’s only jerky when you’re trying to crawl/ 1 mph.
Problem is with the General tailgate is that there little springs that tend to come out allowing one or both sides of the tailgate to unlatch. You can replace them fairly easily but still a pain that should not have gotten past the design stage.
I have a 2017 1000-5 and we have had great luck with it. Before this one we had the then new 2012 Terx-4 from Kawasaki. It was a great ride also never had any trouble from it the 5 years we had it but sometimes we need the extra 2 seats and Honda has a great way to stow them and have a full-size bed and then beak them out when you need them. I have had known reason to complain we use it every day unless we are not here, but it does all the lag work for us.
I have the Pioneer 700. It’s a great machine. I like it’s size as compared to the 1000. It’s not perfect either. I wish it had turf mode, had two more gears, one lower and one higher, and and twin cylinders with around 800 cc’s. It’s quite louder than the 1000. Seems bullet proof.
15:40 one trick you learn when offroading, is to put your foot more on the trans tunnel and then use the side of your foot to press the gas pedal. Not sure if this has a "trans tunnel" but I saw it did have a rib or something next to it.
Nice Video as always Josh. I understand where you are coming from with the tailgate latch system. I don't mind though. To me , the two latch system says strength. When you latch them there is a mechanical connection between the gate and the sides that prevents the sides from being pushed out and deformed. In the 70s both Datsun and Toyota's trucks had this setup. Now I worked the crap out of my 77 Datsun truck. I hauled wood and anything else you could think of. By the time I bought my next truck, an 85 Toyota 4X4, they had 'Improved' the latch system to one handed. It WAS convenient but I had to be a lot more carful about overloading it because that back connection, that reinforcing brace was not there with the one handed latch. I know the corners 'Seem' solid but when you throw heavy stuff in there that extra rigidity is nice. Just my thought, Thanks for sharing and God Bless you sir.
I remember when you where looking at buying that Kabota I had quite a bit of experience with them and that they did not impress me because they where slower than death and give you a headache loud. I mentioned that a better choice would be a Honda. Could have saved yourself time and money by buying a Honda. I have owned Honda products since I was 12 and now I'm 63 and still have Honda products in my garage, Honda makes great products.
Hey now, good choice! We have a pioneer 400 that seats 4-5 and LOVE it! But the 1000 has MUCH more horse power and eventhough we've pushed our 400 to her limits there are many days erik wished we had the 1000!
If you get a throttle max and put it on gas pedal you won't have thst problem..I got my hubby one and it makes a world of difference..we love out pioneer 1000..we bought it brand new in 2016
Sounds like you have talked yourself into purchasing a Honda. The salesperson will not have a hard time convincing you to buy one. That is a great product review Josh. Sounds like you are opting for the family model.
I'd really love it if you could show us and let us hear that low speed loping. How bad it can be and how smooth you can get it when you try. For those of us who farm it's actually quite important and I'm impressed you mentioned such a thing. All kinds of driving and listening to see if it has any bit of chug chug when on and off throttle at various speeds would be wonderful
I had a Pioneer 700-4 for a couple years, and I miss it. I’ve had only Honda ATVs/UTVs since I was ten years old. 35 years later I’ve owned a total of four, and I’ve only wore one out in that time span. I was rougher on that first one though. Surprised it lasted as long as it did. Anyhow, when I bought a side by side, Honda was the only option as far as I was concerned, and I wasn’t disappointed with the 700-4.. Had to add aftermarket fender flares to avoid slinging anything & everything into the operator/passenger compartments, but other than that, it was an off-road Cadillac. I could fold the bed floor back to have two additional adult-sized seats with 3 point seat belts, and the 700-4 had a full ROPS that protected the rear passengers too. Used to take my daughter, my neice, and my nephew riding on the wildlife management area in the spring & summer, and it was like riding them around in a Jeep, minus incessant mechanical failures. The 750-4 is all anyone would ever need, but I’m sure the 1000 is even better. At least you can get it with the standard cab & bed (cheaper purchase price) and still carry two passengers when you want.
Back when we bought our house and land, we had a million projects to get done. So we bought the cheapest side by side we could find. A Land Master 300, lol. Figured we would use it till it died and by a Honda. Here we are 8 years later. 1battery and 1 oil change last year because I felt sorry for it. Damn thing won't die! When it breaks down and we can get something better, I'll still fix it and keep it around. Part of the family at this point.
I hear good things about the American Land Master......they reached out to me a couple years ago and then disappeared or we'd be doing a video on them too
Do NOT ride with your phone in the dash! Too too too hot for long slow rides. We get heat alerts on our phones. We built some things to help keep heat out of the cab if you’re interested, can send some pics. The bulkhead at the back of your calfs can get pretty hot, and the piece of material between the upper and lower seats. Once we put that flashing there, no more issue there. Just need to figure out how to keep heat out of dash area. I put a beer in the dash cup holder ONCE! Don’t do dat no mo!
My Honda 520 Rubicon foot shift quad bike has the same throttle shift response issue. When just driving around we just skip the 1st gear altogether. But when pulling a self powered 6 foot wide flail mower over 4 ft high swamp grass it is difficult to control with the throttle. But I am used to it now. But other than that it is brilliant for heavy duty stuff.
hmm...now I have 2 honda foremans...basically the same machine and I don't have any trouble with the throttle....this gas pedal issue is a little different brotha...every time you bounce ya end up hitting the throttle....with the thumb I think it's just a matter of getting used to it. My girlfriend has the same trouble with the foreman...like you said...just comes with time and experience
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thanks for your reply. Yes, I get used to the thumb control. But 2 hours mowing trying to keep a constant 2 miles an hour gives some cramp in my fingers :) Great content by the way.
I really like the Pioneer, heavily considering the 6 seater model because my wife and 4 kids would all fit... only thing is pulling the trigger right now because of the costs of everything. I'm keeping my eye on this one Honda!
Check out my more recent review of the Pioneer 1000-6 I've got a loaner from honda right now....another vid upgrading it coming soon. Cost around 22,500 but they hold their value and last forever!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer i bought a pioneer 1000-5 im diehard honda.......what a piece of junk. Broke down on farm use only 6 times first year. Currently trying to decide on which polaris to get
It’s pretty hard to beat that Kubota for heavy work and light play. I just took delivery of my 1120D and it’s an animal. But that thing would be lost in those mountain trails and terrain if we ever wanted to take it on vacation.
Hi Josh, Could you find out about the clear roof and windshield? You mentioned that the roof is probably aftermarket. I was hoping to find out where to get one if I end up buying a pioneer. Thanks in advance.
Have you used a side-by-side with the bale unroller? I've only seen people use a 4wheeler, but I'd only want to purchase one or the other to start out.
there would be no difference in the bail unroller with either ...other than the kubota is a heavy brute and gets stuck on a wet banana peel...that's why I use the atv...lower footprint on the land
Maybe I got a lemon , but my 2019 pioneer gets so hot in the cab its not fun in warm weather. Also had to put after market bushings in the doors to make it easier to close the doors. The bed rattles terrible on rough terrain and the automatic transmission is anything but smooth. Seems manual is better. Lastly we had to have the transmission reworked at 100 hrs. and 300 miles because of loud clunking noise. Honda covered 1/2 of the repair $$ but I'm thinking something wasn't right from the factory and should have been fully covered. It does seem better now after the fix.
hmmm...interesting. I'm told the dual clutch trans is a hard shifting transmission.....it shifts aggressively for sure, going out to montana next week to test the newest model and we'll give ya a full review to see if the issues you speak of are present...it's good to hear what the good, bad and ugly are in any machine. I loved my kubota when I first got it but now it's a loud annoying pig...we live and learn right brotha
Josh how would you compare that Honda to the KUBTOA SIDEKICK RTV XG850 like Daniel Arms has. From the looks they look similar. At first I thought that is what that was.
Hi Josh, Do you happen to know the year of your old Deere Gator? I believe they stopped making the 825i in 2012. It may be that you'd want to try a newer model which is a better match to this machine. I saw you tried out a fully loaded Gator with cab that your neighbor purchased, but they do have ones with options closer to the Honda for a fair comparison.
no sir...they are making the same machine on the same frame with the same engine...Deere put a cab and a wider operator's station on the newer one but left the same running gear......NOTHING BUT A PROBLEM!!!!! They increased the price by about $6k is all. And yep they still make the same 825I.....it was a handy machine...but I'm telling you....my experience tells me the Gator is just not for me...I was not happy at all hence the reason I have a kubota now...it's a little tank compared to the belt drive loud constantly breaking gator. Again...even my nieghbors $35k gator is the same platform with upgrades. No thanks on the gator until we get a re-design in my opinion. I'm not a green fan boy that's for sure...some love anything that has green paint....I look for what's functional for me my brotha
The pioneer is a great ride I tested one out before I purchased and really liked it. You should definitely consider a kawasaki mule pro fxt I absolutely love mine. It is faster than the kubotas but has the bigger bed like the kubotas do which is great for around the farm. For me the mule is the best of both worlds its good for trail riding and it has plenty of muscle for farm work. If you are serious about getting a new SxS you need to reach out to sports cycles in Rockingham, NC they sell both honda and kawasaki and they beat everyone's prices by a long shot.
Wish i could afford one. My family and I are against financing unnecessary things like new cars, campers and toys but we may have to make an exception with one of these.
Josh I have a Ford ranger single handle tailgate they break big mechanism inside the gate with lots of plastic bushings and parts that do not hold up. You do not want a single handle. Go Honda!!!
lol...you said it Ford Ranger! Here lately, even with my Raptor...ford plastics seem to be poorly executed..hence the sunroof falling apart in my raptor
Hey Josh thank you for the video and ask for the other conversation that we had but the FDA approval yes I agree that's the way to do it but I had to go with Doug's saying about other things that they are trying to do not the FDA I don't think just things in general we had to stay in our grounds and not let the government walk all over us if enough people fight back then they back down
I 100% disagree with Doug on this......I'm sorry to say it, but I do. The general public in this day and age is both sue happy and poorly educated when it comes to food safety. Now...if a man wants to buy a cow and take it to a non inspected facility that's just fine...but selling beef off the farm that's not inspected or USDA approved is dangerous....there's a reason this stuff is regulated....people get sick and die because of mishaps and corners being cut in the butchering process. From rancid meat to contaminants in the water...this is what we have to think about my friend....public health...and the public doesn't have enough education about food safety to make an informed decision about meat and how it's processed. It doesn't mean people are stupid...it just means the average soccer mom doesn't know anything about livestock, farming and butchering...therefore we have a gov't entity in place to ensure the meat is safe for human consumption. We pay our taxes so that we're safe.....we trust the USDA to provide a standard for safe and healthy food....whether we all like it or not. I'm with ya....and I don't like over regulation....but I also understand that most people don't know safe from not safe...and some food suppliers can do crooked stuff...as we all know
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Josh well there was a little Miss understanding there maybe I didn't pronounce my words correctly because I use speech to talk back on the phone because I cannot read and write so that's how I'm able to communicate with you back and forth but no Doug he agrees with you that you need FDA approval and I agree too that yes
I don't see any Can Am engines in anything other than a CanAm...honda builds everything from ATVs and Motorcycles to Jet Engines....I trust honda engines
Josh I like your videos and reviews but when your comparing a fairly new utv to the older John Deere it's not apple's to apple's I've looked at several different UTVS and personally i believe the Polaris Ranger is my favorite my biggest problem with all of the UTVS they cost to much. IMO Again I really enjoy your videos and respect your opinion.
Thanks for the video ! I'm looking for a UTV for my farm, and my research has led me to the Honda 1000 series. It's already looking like the best deal, my reservations have been because the only dealerships that sell them tend to advertise as Motor Sports dealerships - and I'm looking for practicality, not motor sports.
yep....ya won't find one at your john deere or kubota dealer...but do ya want your tractor mechanic working on your side by side or a powersports mechanic?
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I like what you've done with your place. I have 500 + acres up in Illinois, all spread out, and lots of rough areas where I need an off-road vehicle. BTW, folks around here have given up trying to make money on livestock. I have a cattle feeding facility on my place, could hold up to 100 head of cattle, but we haven't used it for 40 years now.
I have an older 2008 700 Ranger and it has the single middle tailgate handle, and the lift bed handles on both sides. I believe a Honda has a better product, as far as drive train is concerned, although I have had very little trouble, other than change the belt. Which was not as big a deal as I thought, a few hours work, but very little knowledge is needed. Just having to take a few covers and the seat out. All the machines have good points over some of the others. The biggest stumbling point to any machine is the price. Honda being one that is up at the top of that list. Some people cannot warrant spending that extra $5k- $7k for a few miles a year on the trails, and 99% of the time in the garage.
I've researched the prices my friend....and Honda is right along there with all the other major brands....I do agree with ya..if ya don't use it, and it sits in the garage..then why have it? I just did a review on the new John Deere Gator...price tag $35k!!! These machines are priced through the roof right now and it's only getting worse
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Yes J D and Kubota both are very pricey. Not a lot of difference when it comes to their tractors, and other equipment. But never really included them into the mix, as it has only been the last few years they have tried to compete in the same market with (Polaris,Kawi,Suzuki,Yamaha,Honda) the sport SBS, and I have always thought of them as a work machine, for farms ect. I bought mine 6 years ago, to use for fire wood and a bit of trail riding, and plow snow, it replaced a 4 wheeler, that I used for the same purpose. I still use it around the house a bit, but since I bought the old tractor a few years ago, it gets a lot less use, still mainly plow snow. Even before the tractor it sat in the garage, maybe got 20-30 hours of use a year, now maybe 10-15. But I still do use it to make some jobs less of a job. I do see you have many pieces of equipment, that sit around for 99% of the year, but when you need that specific piece you need it. Many people keep them simply because they may only get time one day a month they can go for a ride with the kids, or grand kids.
Josh I hate to tell you this. Ive been a honda fan for years... restore three wheelers... But these new Hondas simply do not hold up. Transmission go out very easy... The only one we have found that holds up is the Yamaha R max .... The four seater is great as the wheel base is still short... Also ten year free replacement on the belt... Yamaha has an amazing belt system... If you get a honda and use it you will wish you didnt... baby it like gramma it might be ok...
time will tell I guess my friend....tons of people have commented on this vid about how great their machines have been....I guess time will tell...sorry you had a bad experience
Lol yeah funny how you did not have any major complaints about the gator transmission which is absolute garbage how many gear selectors did you Break lol i’m on number two at this point I wish I would of just got a older Nissan frontier or Toyota tacoma 4x4
I get it on the pickup truck front....and I have 2 old toyotas...however a side by side is much more usable around the farm in most cases. As for my old gator, I didn't have trouble with the trans...but I've heard stories from my nieghbors
Looks like great machine for the farm but the pieneer 1000 weight 1600 pounds. Heading to the deep back country for big games hunting isn't really thinkable with something that heavy. The 700 or the 520 is better for the deep wilderness.
hmmm.....I'll agree to a point...not sure why 200lbs would make much difference, however I'd prefer an ATV over sxs when it comes to getting through the woods...sxs is better for more open country and trails
You are not comparing the Kubota diesel and the Honda gas correct. It’s Apple to oranges. Everyone knows the diesel is for towing and torq, and hard work. I have the side kick 2022 yr and it is super quite and runs about 40 mph and that is fast enough for safety reasons, roll overs etc. My Sidekick was cheaper than the Honda by about 5 grand. I’m sure the Honda is a good machine but the comparison is a little flawed.
Yep.....some folks like Hondas.....some folks like Deawoo. It's your choice which one you'd like. I'd love to test a Hisun....compare it to the honda. Honda means quality, affordability and reliability...true tested reliability....not Chinese junk. Cheap junk will forever be cheap junk my friend
We have a Pioneer 700 on our property and it's been overall good. However, I don't like how tall they are. The bed is very high off the ground. They are also very loud and require maintenance pretty frequently. I wish someone would make a decent 4WD electric version of this. Also, the doors are pointless, so we took them off. And the tires are terrible. They only lasted about 900 miles! Not cheap to replace either.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I saw you review of the Golden John Deere, it’s truly disappointing how John Deere quality has plummeted, and the price has sky rocketed !! I found a pioneer for around 11k last night.
My renter got me a Honda rancher 2010 420 with power steering. I have 12,000 miles on it now. It is my primary source. No way in the world can I justify having side-by-side and a licensed vehicle. Over 10 grand for that machine I’m guessing 15. Having said that I’m disabled. Just doesn’t work having all that money tied up . Having said that is Honda pretty much holds up.
I wish now I had bought the Honda, because I just bought the Kubota 850 sidekick in June 2022...just had it a few months bought it Brand New, to just get email from Kubota telling me to park it & not drive it, Because the Steering could shear off & I could lose control & be killed or seriously injured...I have reached out to Kubota severally times..still no answer from Kubota, I bought this for my Hubby who has worked hard his whole life, to just have Strokes & Brain injury...I'm so mad at Kubota because they promised they would send someone out to my home to service it...But no one has reached out to me after they promised they would...mad in Livingston Ky
load it up and take it to your kubota dealer for sure....dealer should handle that for you. My local kubota dealer is great! I have a review on the sidekick also
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Do you think the EPS is worth the additional cost of the Deluxe? Or, is that just another thing that can go wrong? I'll be using my vehicle for mostly just fire wood hauling and around my 6 acres. Nothing too serious.
I'm 6'4" tall. How is the legroom for a guy like me?
I'm 6'5" and 350 lbs and it is comfortable for me. Best I've drove so far. Better than Polaris or Artic Cat.
They say the ride says it all go test drive one you’ll probably get one
I'm 6'4" 290 pounds myself. No issues with a Pioneer.
We have had our 2016 Honda Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe for 6 years now. 2500 miles! No problems and love it from front to back. We have installed almost every option available on it, winch, windshield,3p top, back roll up cover, under dash storage etc. 100% love it
I have a 2016 Pioneer 1000-3. Had it almost a year. Got right at 2400 miles. Use it everyday. Zero issues and absolutely LOVE IT!
We have the same one 2016 1000 it’s got 33,000 miles and still going great!
@Gerry Christofferson try a Throttle Max 👍
Can you tell me where you got the majority of your accessories? Thanks
Does the seat get hot
I work for Honda Indiana
Thanks for the review and kind words!
This is why I love this guy, he speaks his mind truthfully looking out for the farmer/hobby farmer.
Man, the difference between when you started with the land and how it is now celebrates the great job you have done!
thanks Scott!
I bought Honda 1000-5 last year. Awesome machine. The extra seats do come in handy for the nephews and neices. I live in a rural area my wife and I just go for rides 50 mile radius. You won't be disappointed if you buy a Honda. Enjoy ours.
I totally agree - easy and simple leads to more reliability and longevity. Great video!
My buddy is a diehard Honda fan. He has rode dirt bikes since he was a kid. We are in our middle 50s. He bought a Honda Pioneer 750. We hunted with it for a few years. He traded it in and got the 1000 to have power steering. He had problems with his Pioneer over heating in low range. Just two of us, he's about 160 lbs, and I'm 205 lbs with 100 lbs of gear ( guns, ammo, water, tools, etc). My buddy took it back to the dealer. Still had problems. He knows farmers that use these to pull spray trailers and other farm work and they have had problems too. I told my buddy that it looks like the fan shroud needs to be sealed off better. And another friend from work said he could probably make something up. So my buddy dropped off his Pioneer at our friend's house. He took measurements and went shopping at the local wrecking yard he frequents. He found a bigger fan with a shroud that seals better to the radiator. It came from a Honda car and had the same connector. This made a huge difference. We are in the central valley of California and deer hunt around Coalinga where the temperatures are over 100 degrees. Also, many people use the buggies that have belts, including the game wardens. And they have broken belts and had walk through the rough terrain back to get help. You won't be sorry getting one for yourself. I wish I could afford one for my little ranch.
Honda is the best. Period. Love my 2016 Pioneer 1000-3.
It's hard to beat the Pioneer. I had one for few years and loved it. The throttle responsiveness did take some getting used to if you had ever owned a CVT type SXS, but grew to love that about it as well. I put over 1500 miles on mine in 2 and half years. Sold it during the shortage early this past year as I needed a larger trailer more that I needed a SXS. Great video showcasing it's strong and weak points. I agree with all the points you made.
We love our Pioneer 1000. It’s a 2020 with 4,600 miles. Haven’t done anything to it but maintenance. If they add more notches in the bed like the rangers, make a heavier built tailgate & fix the slow speed jerk, there wouldn’t be a single complaint from me.
I use it on the farm, on fence jobs & as somewhat of a replacement for my truck when I’m going anywhere in a reasonable distance from home. It goes amazingly well in turf mode (I assume because it’s well balanced). The great payload & towing capacity paired with the ability to cruise comfortably 50-55mph without winding on it makes it great for what I ask of mine.
Have you sprayed chemicals with your pioneer? Is it too jerky for spraying?
@@fueledtohunt2173 That I haven’t. As long as you’ve got a decent flow rate on your sprayer & can apply at at least 2-3 miles an hour you’d be golden. It’s only jerky when you’re trying to crawl/ 1 mph.
Just picked up a 2010 Honda Big Red. Super clean & at 6’4 I fit just fine. Great video man!
I have a 2020 polaris general and it only has one handle to open the tailgate and it's dump bed lift handles are on both sides of the bed I love it
Problem is with the General tailgate is that there little springs that tend to come out allowing one or both sides of the tailgate to unlatch. You can replace them fairly easily but still a pain that should not have gotten past the design stage.
thanks for the review of the honda Pioneer 1000, have a great week-end! BTW enjoyed the video.
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The Throttle Max fixes the throttle peddle complaint 🤗
Thank you for sharing
I have a 2017 1000-5 and we have had great luck with it. Before this one we had the then new 2012 Terx-4 from Kawasaki. It was a great ride also never had any trouble from it the 5 years we had it but sometimes we need the extra 2 seats and Honda has a great way to stow them and have a full-size bed and then beak them out when you need them. I have had known reason to complain we use it every day unless we are not here, but it does all the lag work for us.
Just picked up a 2022 1000-5 trail edition. Love it so far.
I have the Pioneer 700. It’s a great machine. I like it’s size as compared to the 1000. It’s not perfect either. I wish it had turf mode, had two more gears, one lower and one higher, and and twin cylinders with around 800 cc’s. It’s quite louder than the 1000. Seems bullet proof.
15:40 one trick you learn when offroading, is to put your foot more on the trans tunnel and then use the side of your foot to press the gas pedal. Not sure if this has a "trans tunnel" but I saw it did have a rib or something next to it.
I am gonna try the ThrottleMax that attaches to pedal; they claim it works better
Nice Video as always Josh. I understand where you are coming from with the tailgate latch system. I don't mind though. To me , the two latch system says strength. When you latch them there is a mechanical connection between the gate and the sides that prevents the sides from being pushed out and deformed. In the 70s both Datsun and Toyota's trucks had this setup. Now I worked the crap out of my 77 Datsun truck. I hauled wood and anything else you could think of. By the time I bought my next truck, an 85 Toyota 4X4, they had 'Improved' the latch system to one handed. It WAS convenient but I had to be a lot more carful about overloading it because that back connection, that reinforcing brace was not there with the one handed latch. I know the corners 'Seem' solid but when you throw heavy stuff in there that extra rigidity is nice. Just my thought, Thanks for sharing and God Bless you sir.
On the parkway now. Been all over the mountains. No problem crossing creeks. Honda for the win 👍
Great review Josh thank you very much.
Very informative. Nice to have neighbor to loan and try one.
Honda makes great products!
Yamaha RMAX2 1000 I own it and love it! Best sport utility side by side on the market!
Great review. The sound is an important topic to save your hearing. Also, all the mechanical features mean less expensive repairs.
I have a 700 and a honda 500 ATV, thinking about getting a 1000. Id had Hondas since 1983
Nice review and nice machine! Thanks Josh
I am a honda guy but I would like an enclosed cab for inclement weather.
I just got the Kawasaki Mule PRO MX. It’s a great machine. I only wish it had a bigger bed.
I remember when you where looking at buying that Kabota I had quite a bit of experience with them and that they did not impress me because they where slower than death and give you a headache loud. I mentioned that a better choice would be a Honda. Could have saved yourself time and money by buying a Honda. I have owned Honda products since I was 12 and now I'm 63 and still have Honda products in my garage, Honda makes great products.
I have a Honda pioneer 1000 5 seater in opinion it’s the best in the utility spot but the door handles are the week point .
Hey now, good choice! We have a pioneer 400 that seats 4-5 and LOVE it! But the 1000 has MUCH more horse power and eventhough we've pushed our 400 to her limits there are many days erik wished we had the 1000!
If you get a throttle max and put it on gas pedal you won't have thst problem..I got my hubby one and it makes a world of difference..we love out pioneer 1000..we bought it brand new in 2016
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Thank you for the review because i was thinking about getting one and now i will
go 1000-6 v/s 1000-3 totally worth it for the back seat! Better resale too!
Sounds like you have talked yourself into purchasing a Honda. The salesperson will not have a hard time convincing you to buy one. That is a great product review Josh. Sounds like you are opting for the family model.
I'd really love it if you could show us and let us hear that low speed loping. How bad it can be and how smooth you can get it when you try. For those of us who farm it's actually quite important and I'm impressed you mentioned such a thing. All kinds of driving and listening to see if it has any bit of chug chug when on and off throttle at various speeds would be wonderful
Awesome review Josh really appreciate the videos sir 👍
We have almost 20 acres of mountain land in NC and lots of old logging roads. How good is the climbing ability for our steeper spots?
1000 cc man...it will climb!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thanks! I'm going to test drive one!
I had a Pioneer 700-4 for a couple years, and I miss it. I’ve had only Honda ATVs/UTVs since I was ten years old. 35 years later I’ve owned a total of four, and I’ve only wore one out in that time span. I was rougher on that first one though. Surprised it lasted as long as it did. Anyhow, when I bought a side by side, Honda was the only option as far as I was concerned, and I wasn’t disappointed with the 700-4.. Had to add aftermarket fender flares to avoid slinging anything & everything into the operator/passenger compartments, but other than that, it was an off-road Cadillac. I could fold the bed floor back to have two additional adult-sized seats with 3 point seat belts, and the 700-4 had a full ROPS that protected the rear passengers too. Used to take my daughter, my neice, and my nephew riding on the wildlife management area in the spring & summer, and it was like riding them around in a Jeep, minus incessant mechanical failures. The 750-4 is all anyone would ever need, but I’m sure the 1000 is even better. At least you can get it with the standard cab & bed (cheaper purchase price) and still carry two passengers when you want.
Back when we bought our house and land, we had a million projects to get done. So we bought the cheapest side by side we could find. A Land Master 300, lol. Figured we would use it till it died and by a Honda.
Here we are 8 years later. 1battery and 1 oil change last year because I felt sorry for it. Damn thing won't die! When it breaks down and we can get something better, I'll still fix it and keep it around. Part of the family at this point.
I hear good things about the American Land Master......they reached out to me a couple years ago and then disappeared or we'd be doing a video on them too
Do NOT ride with your phone in the dash! Too too too hot for long slow rides. We get heat alerts on our phones. We built some things to help keep heat out of the cab if you’re interested, can send some pics. The bulkhead at the back of your calfs can get pretty hot, and the piece of material between the upper and lower seats. Once we put that flashing there, no more issue there. Just need to figure out how to keep heat out of dash area. I put a beer in the dash cup holder ONCE! Don’t do dat no mo!
Great review son
I learned a lot, thx 🙏
Cool got too look into this rig
My Honda 520 Rubicon foot shift quad bike has the same throttle shift response issue.
When just driving around we just skip the 1st gear altogether. But when pulling a self powered 6 foot wide flail mower over 4 ft high swamp grass it is difficult to control with the throttle. But I am used to it now. But other than that it is brilliant for heavy duty stuff.
hmm...now I have 2 honda foremans...basically the same machine and I don't have any trouble with the throttle....this gas pedal issue is a little different brotha...every time you bounce ya end up hitting the throttle....with the thumb I think it's just a matter of getting used to it. My girlfriend has the same trouble with the foreman...like you said...just comes with time and experience
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thanks for your reply. Yes, I get used to the thumb control. But 2 hours mowing trying to keep a constant 2 miles an hour gives some cramp in my fingers :) Great content by the way.
Great video! Do you know who makes the clear roof? We will be using ours in the mountains and that looks like a really cool add on.
a quick google search and I found this: amzn.to/3um17yE (amazon link from stoney ridge farmer page)
I really like the Pioneer, heavily considering the 6 seater model because my wife and 4 kids would all fit... only thing is pulling the trigger right now because of the costs of everything. I'm keeping my eye on this one Honda!
Check out my more recent review of the Pioneer 1000-6 I've got a loaner from honda right now....another vid upgrading it coming soon. Cost around 22,500 but they hold their value and last forever!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer i bought a pioneer 1000-5 im diehard honda.......what a piece of junk. Broke down on farm use only 6 times first year. Currently trying to decide on which polaris to get
How does it work compared to kubota rtv for spraying? Is it jerky?
It’s pretty hard to beat that Kubota for heavy work and light play. I just took delivery of my 1120D and it’s an animal. But that thing would be lost in those mountain trails and terrain if we ever wanted to take it on vacation.
Hi Josh, Could you find out about the clear roof and windshield? You mentioned that the roof is probably aftermarket. I was hoping to find out where to get one if I end up buying a pioneer. Thanks in advance.
Have you used a side-by-side with the bale unroller? I've only seen people use a 4wheeler, but I'd only want to purchase one or the other to start out.
there would be no difference in the bail unroller with either ...other than the kubota is a heavy brute and gets stuck on a wet banana peel...that's why I use the atv...lower footprint on the land
I was in one these Honda's NOISEST thing i have ever been in , and i have flown in a pile of small aircraft that were quieter
you have never ridden in a Gator or a Kubota RTV then.....this thing is like a purring kitten compared to those
Lower tire pressure to soften bounce
you should look at polaris trail boss
Awesome content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Love the videos thanks for sharing
If Honda builds it, it's usually a good product.
Maybe I got a lemon , but my 2019 pioneer gets so hot in the cab its not fun in warm weather. Also had to put after market bushings in the doors to make it easier to close the doors. The bed rattles terrible on rough terrain and the automatic transmission is anything but smooth. Seems manual is better. Lastly we had to have the transmission reworked at 100 hrs. and 300 miles because of loud clunking noise. Honda covered 1/2 of the repair $$ but I'm thinking something wasn't right from the factory and should have been fully covered. It does seem better now after the fix.
hmmm...interesting. I'm told the dual clutch trans is a hard shifting transmission.....it shifts aggressively for sure, going out to montana next week to test the newest model and we'll give ya a full review to see if the issues you speak of are present...it's good to hear what the good, bad and ugly are in any machine. I loved my kubota when I first got it but now it's a loud annoying pig...we live and learn right brotha
Thanks for the review. Very informative, especially the comparisons with other UTVs you own(ed). The Pioneer 4 seater looks compelling for my needs!
I love Honda! Please review Lowes Axios
Yes he should Review the Axis utvs from Lowe's!
If Hisun motors reaches out to me, I'd be happy to do a review but I'm not buying one to do a review that's for sure
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Hopefully @HISUNUSA Reaches out to you soon!
Josh how would you compare that Honda to the KUBTOA SIDEKICK RTV XG850 like Daniel Arms has. From the looks they look similar. At first I thought that is what that was.
yeppers...I did a review on that machine when it was first released
Damn. Honda building them with that much tow power. Nice!!! Will take a look at there sxs. Thx
If it had a tow receiver in the front, it would be a good aircraft tug!
Hi Josh, Do you happen to know the year of your old Deere Gator? I believe they stopped making the 825i in 2012. It may be that you'd want to try a newer model which is a better match to this machine. I saw you tried out a fully loaded Gator with cab that your neighbor purchased, but they do have ones with options closer to the Honda for a fair comparison.
no sir...they are making the same machine on the same frame with the same engine...Deere put a cab and a wider operator's station on the newer one but left the same running gear......NOTHING BUT A PROBLEM!!!!! They increased the price by about $6k is all. And yep they still make the same 825I.....it was a handy machine...but I'm telling you....my experience tells me the Gator is just not for me...I was not happy at all hence the reason I have a kubota now...it's a little tank compared to the belt drive loud constantly breaking gator. Again...even my nieghbors $35k gator is the same platform with upgrades. No thanks on the gator until we get a re-design in my opinion. I'm not a green fan boy that's for sure...some love anything that has green paint....I look for what's functional for me my brotha
The pioneer is a great ride I tested one out before I purchased and really liked it. You should definitely consider a kawasaki mule pro fxt I absolutely love mine. It is faster than the kubotas but has the bigger bed like the kubotas do which is great for around the farm. For me the mule is the best of both worlds its good for trail riding and it has plenty of muscle for farm work. If you are serious about getting a new SxS you need to reach out to sports cycles in Rockingham, NC they sell both honda and kawasaki and they beat everyone's prices by a long shot.
Wish i could afford one. My family and I are against financing unnecessary things like new cars, campers and toys but we may have to make an exception with one of these.
Figure out a way my friend! You got this!
Is it safe on the rear differential if you only use turf mode when two wheel drive isn’t required
i always run mine in turf mode
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Josh I have a Ford ranger single handle tailgate they break big mechanism inside the gate with lots of plastic bushings and parts that do not hold up. You do not want a single handle. Go Honda!!!
lol...you said it Ford Ranger! Here lately, even with my Raptor...ford plastics seem to be poorly executed..hence the sunroof falling apart in my raptor
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I'm trying that to drive
Can't go wrong with a Honda, you should research the cfmoto uforce 600, great machine for half the money....anyways as always great video
You know...I've actually reached out to CF Moto but they never responded...I'd love to see how they hold up
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer had mine 3 years here in back woods of south east Arkansas, 2000 miles and never a problem
Hey Josh thank you for the video and ask for the other conversation that we had but the FDA approval yes I agree that's the way to do it but I had to go with Doug's saying about other things that they are trying to do not the FDA I don't think just things in general we had to stay in our grounds and not let the government walk all over us if enough people fight back then they back down
I 100% disagree with Doug on this......I'm sorry to say it, but I do. The general public in this day and age is both sue happy and poorly educated when it comes to food safety. Now...if a man wants to buy a cow and take it to a non inspected facility that's just fine...but selling beef off the farm that's not inspected or USDA approved is dangerous....there's a reason this stuff is regulated....people get sick and die because of mishaps and corners being cut in the butchering process. From rancid meat to contaminants in the water...this is what we have to think about my friend....public health...and the public doesn't have enough education about food safety to make an informed decision about meat and how it's processed. It doesn't mean people are stupid...it just means the average soccer mom doesn't know anything about livestock, farming and butchering...therefore we have a gov't entity in place to ensure the meat is safe for human consumption. We pay our taxes so that we're safe.....we trust the USDA to provide a standard for safe and healthy food....whether we all like it or not. I'm with ya....and I don't like over regulation....but I also understand that most people don't know safe from not safe...and some food suppliers can do crooked stuff...as we all know
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Josh well there was a little Miss understanding there maybe I didn't pronounce my words correctly because I use speech to talk back on the phone because I cannot read and write so that's how I'm able to communicate with you back and forth but no Doug he agrees with you that you need FDA approval and I agree too that yes
Any idea what year this three seater is
2019 I think
Thanks god bless
Would this be as good as cam am defenders
I don't see any Can Am engines in anything other than a CanAm...honda builds everything from ATVs and Motorcycles to Jet Engines....I trust honda engines
Josh I like your videos and reviews but when your comparing a fairly new utv to the older John Deere it's not apple's to apple's I've looked at several different UTVS and personally i believe the Polaris Ranger is my favorite my biggest problem with all of the UTVS they cost to much. IMO Again I really enjoy your videos and respect your opinion.
my friend...we're talking about 4 years difference...the same gator is built to this date, same engine, trans and frame
Good video
Good luck finding any pioneers in stock
No kidding. Been looking for months and just lucked into one straight off the truck this morning. 2022 1000-5. Right place right time I guess
Can-Am defender X MR. All the way check them out
Thanks for the video ! I'm looking for a UTV for my farm, and my research has led me to the Honda 1000 series. It's already looking like the best deal, my reservations have been because the only dealerships that sell them tend to advertise as Motor Sports dealerships - and I'm looking for practicality, not motor sports.
yep....ya won't find one at your john deere or kubota dealer...but do ya want your tractor mechanic working on your side by side or a powersports mechanic?
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I like what you've done with your place. I have 500 + acres up in Illinois, all spread out, and lots of rough areas where I need an off-road vehicle.
BTW, folks around here have given up trying to make money on livestock. I have a cattle feeding facility on my place, could hold up to 100 head of cattle, but we haven't used it for 40 years now.
They could have put a knob on the end of the dump lever.
something for you to catch your pants I'm assuming
I have an older 2008 700 Ranger and it has the single middle tailgate handle, and the lift bed handles on both sides.
I believe a Honda has a better product, as far as drive train is concerned, although I have had very little trouble, other than change the belt. Which was not as big a deal as I thought, a few hours work, but very little knowledge is needed. Just having to take a few covers and the seat out.
All the machines have good points over some of the others.
The biggest stumbling point to any machine is the price. Honda being one that is up at the top of that list.
Some people cannot warrant spending that extra $5k- $7k for a few miles a year on the trails, and 99% of the time in the garage.
I've researched the prices my friend....and Honda is right along there with all the other major brands....I do agree with ya..if ya don't use it, and it sits in the garage..then why have it? I just did a review on the new John Deere Gator...price tag $35k!!! These machines are priced through the roof right now and it's only getting worse
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer
Yes J D and Kubota both are very pricey.
Not a lot of difference when it comes to their tractors, and other equipment. But never really included them into the mix, as it has only been the last few years they have tried to compete in the same market with (Polaris,Kawi,Suzuki,Yamaha,Honda) the sport SBS, and I have always thought of them as a work machine, for farms ect.
I bought mine 6 years ago, to use for fire wood and a bit of trail riding, and plow snow, it replaced a 4 wheeler, that I used for the same purpose. I still use it around the house a bit, but since I bought the old tractor a few years ago, it gets a lot less use, still mainly plow snow. Even before the tractor it sat in the garage, maybe got 20-30 hours of use a year, now maybe 10-15. But I still do use it to make some jobs less of a job.
I do see you have many pieces of equipment, that sit around for 99% of the year, but when you need that specific piece you need it. Many people keep them simply because they may only get time one day a month they can go for a ride with the kids, or grand kids.
Is it made in Japan?
I think they are made in TN now
Josh I hate to tell you this. Ive been a honda fan for years... restore three wheelers... But these new Hondas simply do not hold up. Transmission go out very easy... The only one we have found that holds up is the Yamaha R max .... The four seater is great as the wheel base is still short... Also ten year free replacement on the belt... Yamaha has an amazing belt system... If you get a honda and use it you will wish you didnt... baby it like gramma it might be ok...
time will tell I guess my friend....tons of people have commented on this vid about how great their machines have been....I guess time will tell...sorry you had a bad experience
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Not just one the honda dealer in town is full fixing them... But there upgrafed now I just found out for you..
Lol yeah funny how you did not have any major complaints about the gator transmission which is absolute garbage how many gear selectors did you Break lol i’m on number two at this point I wish I would of just got a older Nissan frontier or Toyota tacoma 4x4
I get it on the pickup truck front....and I have 2 old toyotas...however a side by side is much more usable around the farm in most cases. As for my old gator, I didn't have trouble with the trans...but I've heard stories from my nieghbors
You can't beat Honda quality and dependability
Looks like great machine for the farm but the pieneer 1000 weight 1600 pounds. Heading to the deep back country for big games hunting isn't really thinkable with something that heavy. The 700 or the 520 is better for the deep wilderness.
hmmm.....I'll agree to a point...not sure why 200lbs would make much difference, however I'd prefer an ATV over sxs when it comes to getting through the woods...sxs is better for more open country and trails
You are not comparing the Kubota diesel and the Honda gas correct. It’s Apple to oranges. Everyone knows the diesel is for towing and torq, and hard work. I have the side kick 2022 yr and it is super quite and runs about 40 mph and that is fast enough for safety reasons, roll overs etc. My Sidekick was cheaper than the Honda by about 5 grand. I’m sure the Honda is a good machine but the comparison is a little flawed.
for about half the cost you can get a hisun 1000 with enclosed cab winch better supimsiom better lightong wpmdows
Yep.....some folks like Hondas.....some folks like Deawoo. It's your choice which one you'd like. I'd love to test a Hisun....compare it to the honda. Honda means quality, affordability and reliability...true tested reliability....not Chinese junk. Cheap junk will forever be cheap junk my friend
You can't beat a Honda.
We have a Pioneer 700 on our property and it's been overall good. However, I don't like how tall they are. The bed is very high off the ground. They are also very loud and require maintenance pretty frequently. I wish someone would make a decent 4WD electric version of this. Also, the doors are pointless, so we took them off. And the tires are terrible. They only lasted about 900 miles! Not cheap to replace either.
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20 grand ??? Holy cow !!!
my friend...the Pioneer is actually a little less expensive than other major brands....look at my review of the $35k john deere gator!! OMG!!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I saw you review of the Golden John Deere, it’s truly disappointing how John Deere quality has plummeted, and the price has sky rocketed !! I found a pioneer for around 11k last night.
The Honda needs to be a diesel for the farm fuel commonality.
not necessarily my friend...I burn about 5 gallons a month in the kubota so we're not talking about alot of fuel
Love a Honda. Got to be honest though. If money weren’t a thing, that Polaris Ranger Northstar wins every time.
forgive me for saying...but I just googled the MSRP of the polaris ranger northstar and it's over $30k?
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yeah, it’s insane. In fairness, I led with if money weren’t a thing 😂
My renter got me a Honda rancher 2010 420 with power steering. I have 12,000 miles on it now. It is my primary source. No way in the world can I justify having side-by-side and a licensed vehicle. Over 10 grand for that machine I’m guessing 15. Having said that I’m disabled. Just doesn’t work having all that money tied up . Having said that is Honda pretty much holds up.
I wish now I had bought the Honda, because I just bought the Kubota 850 sidekick in June 2022...just had it a few months bought it Brand New, to just get email from Kubota telling me to park it & not drive it, Because the Steering could shear off & I could lose control & be killed or seriously injured...I have reached out to Kubota severally times..still no answer from Kubota, I bought this for my Hubby who has worked hard his whole life, to just have Strokes & Brain injury...I'm so mad at Kubota because they promised they would send someone out to my home to service it...But no one has reached out to me after they promised they would...mad in Livingston Ky
load it up and take it to your kubota dealer for sure....dealer should handle that for you. My local kubota dealer is great! I have a review on the sidekick also
Wish the Deluxe came in the black...
I wouldn't ever want a black one..just shows dirt and scratches too much
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Do you think the EPS is worth the additional cost of the Deluxe? Or, is that just another thing that can go wrong? I'll be using my vehicle for mostly just fire wood hauling and around my 6 acres. Nothing too serious.
Not butting in but where is Mrs stoney ridge farmer now?