Voice Teacher Reacts and Analyzes: The Poet and the Pendulum - Nightwish

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  • @wepprop
    @wepprop 4 года назад +405

    It is often said that other singers sing whatever way works best for them, but Floor sings whatever way works best for the song.

    • @darthmagnus8855
      @darthmagnus8855 4 года назад +38

      I would say the same is true of the whole band as well. Emppu can probably shred with the best of them, but he doesn't need to show off. Just plays exactly what is needed for the song. That's one of my favorite things about this band. They're dedicated to the music with very little ego.

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 4 года назад +20

      Other singes sing what the can, Floor sings whatever she wants. ;) Like someone said, she's a Swiss army knife of singing.

    • @lastword9475
      @lastword9475 4 года назад +2

      @David Kling ... Tarja took on all challenges, was great at it..love Floor too but on most Tarja era songs Floor is too timid

    • @jeffwolinski2659
      @jeffwolinski2659 4 года назад +22

      "Floor is too timid" is about the most clueless statement I have ever seen on RUclips.

    • @fixxa6455
      @fixxa6455 4 года назад +9

      last word Well show us then some songs where tarja is doing heavy chestvoice? There is only one singer who has both explosive chest and headvoice its floor jansen

  • @sterketjerke
    @sterketjerke 4 года назад +347

    NEXT: Greatest show on earth!

    • @Amaranthos2
      @Amaranthos2 4 года назад +8

      Thank you now I don't have to say it

    • @Idefixu
      @Idefixu 4 года назад +45

      Tampere 2015 version, please!

    • @agustinmanyari
      @agustinmanyari 4 года назад +5

      by popular demand! 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Zozo-K-
      @Zozo-K- 4 года назад +20

      Yes, the Tampere version...and make sure to let it play all the way to the end.

    • @deadohiosky1701
      @deadohiosky1701 4 года назад +5

      And do your vocal coach thing, because you have to and you should, but also just let yourself enjoy it :)

  • @fnglert
    @fnglert 4 года назад +153

    "But this is the longest song I've ever done a reaction to" - so far >:D
    "And she's not trying to be this songbird all over the place just trying to show what she can do with her voice" - YES! THANK YOU! That's what i've always disliked about pop divas like Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston et all, they're scale monsters demanding the full attention and acting like the whole world revolves around them, but Floor - ... Floor is in the service of the song. She's an instrument. She does what the song needs, no more, no less. That's an *artist*.

    • @tanjajko7220
      @tanjajko7220 4 года назад +26

      I think this applies to all musicians of Nightwish. They are all massively talented at what they do, never showing off, always playing for the team and the Music!

    • @ChrisPage68
      @ChrisPage68 4 года назад +10

      Exactly. The same goes for the rest of the band.

    • @fnglert
      @fnglert 4 года назад +8

      @@ChrisPage68
      Very much so, but this is a voice teacher analyzing a singer, not so much the whole band. :) You're still correct of course.

    • @garywinters4636
      @garywinters4636 4 года назад +2

      The "Humble Goddess of Song." ;-)

    • @chadbennett7873
      @chadbennett7873 3 года назад +3

      Absolutely agree - and I agree with the others ... that goes for the entire band. I've said it before and I risk the ire of her followers, but I always found Tarja's voice as a hammer, at times striking an anvil. Floor has an entire box of tools and she uses the one that advances the song best. This frees Tuomas to compose with a more versatile pallet, painting the colors of the art we appreciate so much. I watch the videos Floor makes for us and you can see the humility, without denying the confidence, in her as a person. She is actually grateful, not only for the compositions, but for her"brothers-in-arms" (as she calls them) who give her such a wonderful foundation to dance upon. They make her better, she makes them better, they make us better.

  • @sleeepwalk
    @sleeepwalk 4 года назад +110

    Natural path is The Greatest Show on Earth... Floor growling, operatic, classical and belting E5s and F5s for 25 minutes, and in the end, G5 belting phrases with 10 seconds each...

    • @Idefixu
      @Idefixu 4 года назад +22

      In Tampere, please!

    • @mrgoats
      @mrgoats 4 года назад +2

      Really is. I’m biased as a person inspired by national sciences but it really is masterful storytelling

    • @revylokesh1783
      @revylokesh1783 4 года назад +3

      Also _Yours is an empty hope_

  • @kristianp.405
    @kristianp.405 4 года назад +54

    They play 2 hour shows, most of the time. So one 10 min song is just a "song" :)

  • @jakebronner2371
    @jakebronner2371 4 года назад +132

    The orchestra would probably be the London Philharmonic Orchestra, they've done fantastic work for several Nightwish songs.

    • @jakebronner2371
      @jakebronner2371 4 года назад

      @Stephen Natoli Thanks for pitching in. :-) I was aware that they worked together on different albums, just not exactly to what extent. I deliberately went for understatement so as not to put out false information, but I also didn't have time to double-check.

    • @OHshepard
      @OHshepard 4 года назад

      Has the Orchestra ever played live with Nightwish?

    • @jakebronner2371
      @jakebronner2371 4 года назад +3

      @@OHshepard Not that I'm aware of, no. I heard rumours that Tuomas wanted to do shows with a full orchestra, but it hasn't happened yet. Also, nothing but rumours, so take it with a grain of salt until anything like that is officially announced. ;-)

    • @MY-se1jf
      @MY-se1jf 4 года назад

      There is no mention of London Philharmonic in album credits. Everyone who played, are under the title of The Dark Passion Play Orchestra.

    • @MustaLaatta
      @MustaLaatta 4 года назад +3

      @@MY-se1jf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Passion_Play this covers the whole album, don't know what's their contribution in this one, but same backtrack...
      The orchestral line-up featured 66 members from the London Philharmonic Orchestkra, 32 singers from The Metro Voices and twelve gospel singers.[8] The final mixing process spent more than 75 days at the Finnvox Studios in Kitee, Finland, the same place where Nightwish recorded all their previous albums.[8]

  • @ollipartanen5917
    @ollipartanen5917 4 года назад +26

    For me it's not just Floor's voice. It's the body language and emotions she brings to each song, especially live performances. I have seen them several times with every singer ,but I think Floor is giving 100% always.

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 4 года назад +234

    If Tuomas Holopainen, the keyboard player & composer, had been born in the 17th, or, 18th centuries, he'd be mentioned in the same breath as Bach, Handel, or, Mozart.

    • @ChrisPage68
      @ChrisPage68 4 года назад +14

      He should be now.

    • @modmcmano
      @modmcmano 4 года назад +26

      Isn't he called the Metal Mozart? 🎼🎶🎵♩🎹🎸🎤

    • @jukkahelminen9071
      @jukkahelminen9071 4 года назад +5

      @@ChrisPage68 Definitely! :)
      PS. I got today Crewish CD, REALLY interesting. It is FUNNY, CRAZY and a lot of HUMOR. Love it! Full of surprises!

    • @ralfmeyer9086
      @ralfmeyer9086 4 года назад +1

      @@jukkahelminen9071 🤗👍

    • @janjorgendevries2927
      @janjorgendevries2927 4 года назад +1

      But probably not be inspired by Metallica 😀

  • @mitchthepower
    @mitchthepower 4 года назад +83

    "The drummer is burning a few calories during this song." I have to think about Kai drumming in the live rehearsal of "The sons of winter and start" by "Wintersun". I think he loses 5 kilograms while playing it... :-D

    • @jukkahelminen9071
      @jukkahelminen9071 4 года назад +6

      The same thing came to my mind at that point! :D

    • @ytbabbler
      @ytbabbler 4 года назад +9

      Yeah, why would not the worlds best band with the best singer also have the best drummers. (I'm a huge fan of both Jukka and Kai, the artist and the master.)

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 4 года назад

      Try Wintersun "Time I", too: ruclips.net/video/4UMwLxFNKS0/видео.html
      Kai has proper workout there, too.

    • @MustaLaatta
      @MustaLaatta 4 года назад +4

      According to BBC news, an hour of drumming burns more calories than running, aerobics or weight lifting.

    • @berndb3141
      @berndb3141 2 года назад +1

      Right? This is probably a vacation compared to "Sons of winter and stars".

  • @axelkristiansen2244
    @axelkristiansen2244 4 года назад +55

    Great reaction. The next should be: The greatest show on earth - live from Tampere 2015

    • @lordoverflow
      @lordoverflow 4 года назад +4

      Yeah. He's ready for that.

    • @kaseyict
      @kaseyict 3 года назад

      Agreed. But be prepared, you will cry at the ending because it’s so overwhelming in the best possible way.

  • @halvelife
    @halvelife 4 года назад +79

    If you like prog rock (Many vocalists make appearances): Ayreon - The Day That The World Breaks Down - The Source (2017)

    • @MsStecarl
      @MsStecarl 4 года назад +5

      u ruind the suprice, always fun to se reactors when they see her

    • @Dianen65
      @Dianen65 4 года назад +2

      Yess! great masterpiece!

    • @marcovtjev
      @marcovtjev 4 года назад +1

      Or "The Gathering - On Most Surfaces". The Gathering is btw a Nightwish influence (both Floor and Tuomas)

    • @oolillemyoo4099
      @oolillemyoo4099 4 года назад +6

      Since he’s a voice teacher, I think Ayreon’s “Valley of the Queens” would blow his socks off!
      Three metal queens and such a wicked display of vocal skills - despite being short and sweet :)

    • @tanjajko7220
      @tanjajko7220 4 года назад +3

      Oh yes this is a good one. The Day That The World Breaks Down is like a big plate of different tiny gourmet delicacies of vocals! 🥰

  • @maddermax74
    @maddermax74 4 года назад +26

    you want to hear some or Marco ranges you need to check out his amazing performance Nightwish - The Islander (Live At Tampere)

  • @tonysweeney2075
    @tonysweeney2075 4 года назад +34

    Good to see you really enjoying this masterpiece John..You converted yet!!

  • @marcmulder9893
    @marcmulder9893 4 года назад +31

    So Floor is basically Yodelizing it to sound even more beautiful...Great comment man.

  • @TheLiger30
    @TheLiger30 4 года назад +54

    This was about in the middle of the concert, and at the end of it she still aced The Greatest Show on Earth too, which is THE longest song of Nightwish, Tuomas's cherished masterpiece over 20 minutes long. Granted, not quite all 20 minutes have her singing, but there's no doubting she's a powerhouse!

    • @xcritic9671
      @xcritic9671 4 года назад

      and by "not quite all" you mean about half.

  • @leathelone6972
    @leathelone6972 4 года назад +45

    Good reaction :D
    If you want to see a song that floor found difficult (she did it well though) Shoemaker.......when they can tour again it will be interesting to see how they do it live. Read a little on Shoemaker the scientist first, the song pays homage to him

    • @ddiachen
      @ddiachen 4 года назад +4

      They originally said they won't be doing Shoemaker live, but the number of requests for it may make them figure out how to add it to the set list.

    • @randominc.2251
      @randominc.2251 4 года назад

      @@ddiachen I think they will save it for the BIG ticket shows...

    • @allenjohnstone9945
      @allenjohnstone9945 4 года назад

      I should have seen them last week in Toronto. Totally miffed as are both my daughters as they are not coming to Canada next year either.

    • @chardonnay5767
      @chardonnay5767 4 года назад

      I'm also looking for reactions to Shoemaker from people who have some kind of understanding about singing. It would be great to hear someone break down all the advanced vocal techniques used in it.

  • @pekkakarppinen1608
    @pekkakarppinen1608 4 года назад +44

    Yes, this is a one heck of the song. And they all nailed it there. Quite complex and a sad story, but they told it well. Notice how the boys gathered around Tuomad at the end to comfort him because this song has some emotional burden to him. Thank you for your analysis!

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 4 года назад +4

      At the time this was recorded it had been 11 years. He's mostly over4 it. It was another thing when it was still fresh and new. The "three musketeers" gathering at the end have mostly become a "thing" now. You can even see Tuomas singing along in "Mother and Father"

    • @pekkakarppinen1608
      @pekkakarppinen1608 4 года назад +7

      @@darkiee69 Of course "the gathering" is part of the show. But my relatively long life experience has shown that we all can hold some difficult things inside us easily for decades (whatever these things might be). It's often stupid and meaningless, but also so very human.

  • @madmansurfing
    @madmansurfing 4 года назад +153

    Quite interesting to have a reaction abstacting from that emotional rollercoaster to the pure vocal technique. Enjoyed it much.
    You recognised Marko‘s singing during TPatP. May I recommend to go back in time to 2005 and check their Pink Floyd tribute „High Hopes“ sung by Marko. I m sure you will be stunned by that performance as well.
    Looking forward to the next one.😊

    • @s.kenthamilton8745
      @s.kenthamilton8745 4 года назад +14

      I might also recommend "The Islander" live by Nightwish and "Voice of My Father" from Marko's solo album.

    • @machintelligence
      @machintelligence 4 года назад

      Marco also sang this entire song as a demonstration. The words are slightly different (and more bitter.)

    • @daveangels
      @daveangels 4 года назад +6

      In High Hopes Marko really shines

    • @nassj6593
      @nassj6593 4 года назад +2

      Aside from his front raspy vocal part, his backings vocals within this same song in the last sections are also incredible

    • @__mader__
      @__mader__ 2 года назад

      And the Phantom of the Opera with Tarja... ruclips.net/video/tL25rbnvM4o/видео.html

  • @richardtomlin8704
    @richardtomlin8704 4 года назад +16

    'I've been told the base player can sing. Understatement of the week/month/year/decade...
    You so gotta check out 'High hopes'

  • @johnekare8376
    @johnekare8376 4 года назад +22

    Excited pre-watch post: YES! Perfect ending of this day! I've been looking forward to you getting to this... I'm pleasantly surprised I didn't have to wait for long.

  • @shawnski001
    @shawnski001 4 года назад +14

    Time to go from depressing (but good) to total fun (and awesome!)
    Storytime, from the Wachen 2013 concert! It's TIME.... for a little story!

  • @RichardFer01
    @RichardFer01 4 года назад +68

    Can't keep my eyes dry when she sings, never had that before...

    • @cree_VI
      @cree_VI 4 года назад +1

      me too

    • @RavensFlock9592
      @RavensFlock9592 4 года назад +1

      Same. She sings so beautifully.

    • @GTSchorsch
      @GTSchorsch 4 года назад +3

      It's not just her singing. Floors whole body language is fantastic.

  • @dribbel77
    @dribbel77 4 года назад +15

    Thank you for youre reaction on this masterpiece.
    Tuomas (keys) is the main writer/composer/ arranger. The song is about HIM committing sueside in the liric. And not in real life ........
    Im kinda sad you did not mention Marco do much. He is singing all backing. And rocking it. Wile playing bass like a boss....
    There is so much to dive in....
    Beste Zangers 2019 ....Floor.....
    More Marco... the Ilander live Tampere. High hopes 2005.
    All Wembley... all Tampere .... all Wacken..... is all good.... and everyone different. A real rolercoaster. Keep up the good work.

  • @normanmapson1459
    @normanmapson1459 4 года назад +69

    Regarding your note / question at 00:05:48
    Pip Williams supervised the orchestra parts and orchestra arrangements - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip_Williams
    Tuomas Holopainen (Nightwish founder, keyboardist) composed the music and wrote the lyrics.
    London Philharmonic Orchestra performed the orchestral parts.
    Metro Voices did the choir sections.

    • @ChrisPage68
      @ChrisPage68 4 года назад +3

      And on the last two albums, the Conductor was James Shearman.

    • @corneliusantonius3108
      @corneliusantonius3108 4 года назад +1

      upvote

    • @jackstorm5649
      @jackstorm5649 4 года назад +6

      Also the boy Sopranos were Guy Elliott and Tom Williams, from the Reigate St Mary's Choir School.

    • @normanmapson1459
      @normanmapson1459 4 года назад +1

      ​@@ChrisPage68 thank you for that information, I've added it to my personal notes :-)
      EDIT: Looks like he is also credited from Once onwards!

    • @normanmapson1459
      @normanmapson1459 4 года назад +1

      @@jackstorm5649 thank you for that information, I've added it to my personal notes :-)

  • @chrisridley7314
    @chrisridley7314 4 года назад +11

    Nothing wrong with Prog Rock Dinosaurs! I too love Close to the Edge and appreciate the alto voice of Jon Anderson. However, Floor Jansen is something very special indeed. Her range is incredible and well used by Tuomas in his compositions. Her singing against that of Marko, the bassist, works brilliantly
    I really enjoy your reactions as you delve deep into the technicalities of the music.
    Try 'Shoemaker' next

  • @justinriley7193
    @justinriley7193 4 года назад +9

    I'm a fairly new member of the Nightwish army myself. I also have to say I'm not even a singer or try to be but everything you break down is easy enough for someone not versed in the lingo to understand. All the reactions you've had are just golden. I of course really love the Nightwish reactions as everyone else, but it's great to see your breakdown to every other technique as well. I shall now go back into non-comment mode. Have a lovely day, night, month, year!

  • @thorstenmatadoerle8546
    @thorstenmatadoerle8546 4 года назад +10

    First! Thank you for your reaction and thoughts on this piece of music. Please react to her rendition of Vilja Lied on Beste Zangers 2019 .. thank you.

  • @Emily-lg9cq
    @Emily-lg9cq 4 года назад +10

    Yes! I've been waiting for this one ever since I saw your fabulous Ghost Love Score reaction! Thank you!

  • @kalajarvi
    @kalajarvi 4 года назад +8

    I am sure the whole Nightwish Army want to thank you John. You are the right man for this. Thank you. Greetings from Finland. The land of heavy music.

  • @veronicaue180
    @veronicaue180 4 года назад +8

    Nice video again, thank's! I appreciate your knowledge. I really would like the have your analyze of Floor's version of "Shallow" (Beste Zangers).

  • @oolillemyoo4099
    @oolillemyoo4099 4 года назад +55

    I’d love to see you go through more of Nightwish’s old catalogue _(Oh please, do “The Greatest Show On Earth)_ - but If you want to see Floor being challenged to the max _(and not just with belting, because we know she can belt superbly)_ , I highly recommend something from their newest album :-)
    You will find that their style has evolved a lot, from the songs that you’ve already heard. This is not only due to a natural progression of creativity, but because Tuomas _(the keyboardist and composer/songwriter)_ now has a singer, who can basically sing what ever he wants her to - so he is now free to compose without limitations, and oh boy it shows

    • @alejandromoya7
      @alejandromoya7 4 года назад +3

      Sí... La canción "Shoemaker" del nuevo disco es perfecta para que sea analizada a fondo por este magnífico reaccionador ("vocal coach").

    • @joecrafted
      @joecrafted 4 года назад +1

      The acoustic version (recorded live) of "How's the Heart" is possibly the single best example of Floor's singing I've ever seen, and I have watched them all.

    • @hansevers6407
      @hansevers6407 4 года назад

      Floor wrote already great songs in the past and I’m still waiting at the moment Tuomas wrote a piece of music with a real choir and orchestra. When he do that, he will be the real genius. To explain what I meant, you should listen to the Ayreon project from Arjan Lucassen. This guy has the ability to put all the great singers from the scene together and let them collaborate.

  • @darkiee69
    @darkiee69 4 года назад +50

    The "operatic" part of "the pacific" was originally sung by the same boy who does the "White lands of Empathica" That was when Anette Olzon was the singer of Nightwish. When Floor took over she told Tuomas that she could sing both of those parts. He chose to keep the intro but let Floor sing the Pacific part.
    If you think Kai (the drummer) is intense you have to watch something with Nightwish from Wacken 2013 and their former drummer Jukka. He played two hour shows like he was doing one five minute song. He went on a hiatus in 2014 due to health problems (Chronic insomnia) and he suggested his good friend Kai Hahto as his replacement. In 2019 he announced that he was not coming back. He's feeling better but doesn't want to risk his health so Kai is now a permanent member of the band. Jukka is still involved behind the scenes as part of the management team.

    • @lorgrenbenirus
      @lorgrenbenirus 4 года назад +5

      Indeed. Jukka wasn't playing music, Jukka WAS the music.

  • @leonidasmalekakis7366
    @leonidasmalekakis7366 4 года назад +10

    Your commentary ia ouy of this world. And your knowledge is amazing. If we lived in the same country I'd pay you all the money in the world to be my voice teacher. Thank you for having this channel

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 4 года назад +1

      Well, he was Britney Spears vocal coach for awhile there...

  • @prchise
    @prchise 4 года назад +41

    I have heard many reactions to this song. This is one of the best. And if I may add, in my book Floor is the best female vocalist in rock music now. And beyond. Excellent reaction!

    • @JohnHennyVocalStudio
      @JohnHennyVocalStudio  4 года назад +6

      So glad you enjoyed the reaction!

    • @Birgeyful
      @Birgeyful 3 года назад +2

      yeah, from technical view this is one of the best, together with this one
      ruclips.net/video/eOlkEgOeNNc/видео.html
      The emotional backstory of the song is intense, the writer felt down after the split with the former singer Tarja, he decided to kill himself in the song instead of reality. The final act in the song is real conversation with his mother.

  • @orbitsurvey9612
    @orbitsurvey9612 4 года назад +9

    Love your insights and reactions! Props to early Genesis as well. Selling England by the Pound is one my all time fav albums! Please give a listen to The Greatest Show On Earth live at Tampere followed by Yours is an Empty Hope live at Wembley. Cheers

    • @matthewarms3786
      @matthewarms3786 4 года назад +1

      Ah yeah, Dancing With the Moonlit Knight was pretty much my intro to prog, came across it going through my dad's Jazz Fusion and prog rock vinyls when I was in grade school. I also discovered Yes and King Crimson during those dives.

  • @jalf0007
    @jalf0007 3 года назад +5

    This concert was especially challenging for her because she sang the trilogy: Ghost Love Score, The Poet and the Pendulum, and the Greatest Show on Earth. These three combined are over thirty minutes long! Keep in mind that Nightwish songs are not easy for vocalist, so the rest of the songs are not a piece o cake either!

  • @jimborumable
    @jimborumable 4 года назад +6

    Wow. That was a really inspiring critique. Thank you. I would imagine you would have a lot to say about Floor's technique when she guested with another band, called Epica on their retrospective tour, singing, 'Sancta Terra.' I would love to see that reaction.

  • @billattercliffe8655
    @billattercliffe8655 4 года назад +9

    As a video guy I can confirm what the previous poster said. The frame rate of the video camera is too slow to catch the precise moment of the snare hits. The video and audio are correctly synched.
    Pip Williams of the London Philharmonic Orchestra is the man who does the grooving with the baton. Tuomas writes the orchestral music for each instrument section, demos the tracks on his synth and sends it off to London where Williams works his magic. The band and the LPO have been working together for a long time. There's a documentary on the making of the "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" album that describes this process in more detail. The choir work involves both an adult and a child choir working with the LPO.
    The opening passage is sung by a boy soprano and the spoken parts were done by one as well.
    In the original version of the "Poet and the Pendulum" a boy soprano also sang that high passage starting with "Sparkle my scenery". This album was produced with their second singer, Anette Olzen, and she didn't have the range to sing that passage. Floor has the range and she sings it with the thinness of a boy soprano, or at least as close as an adult woman can get. Go back to that passage and listen to the thin, almost unstable tone that Floor gives it.
    BTW, big Yes and Genesis fan here as well. Let's not forget Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

    • @npinjest7779
      @npinjest7779 4 года назад

      Interesting on the frame rate, I was wondering if this was BT latency with his headphones...

    • @billattercliffe8655
      @billattercliffe8655 4 года назад +2

      @@npinjest7779 Frame rate issues are common with any fast moving object like a drumstick. Watch some drumcam videos and see the staggered, multiple images of a drumstick in motion. 24 fps is common for a lot of video as it's the slowest frame rate that we can use and have the human eye not detect the stutter of individual frames. However 24 and 30 fps seriously sucks for anything that involves fast motion. 60 fps is the minimum and 120 or 240 preferable for faster moving objects.
      There are consequences for going up in frame rate and this was shot in 2013 when even pro equipment had quality issues with high frame rates. There are exposure issues as well, but I'll stop here as otherwise it'll turn into a video tutorial.

    • @npinjest7779
      @npinjest7779 4 года назад

      @@billattercliffe8655 Thank you for the explanation. Much appreciated.

  • @riquelpyles1421
    @riquelpyles1421 4 года назад +5

    A full-on, full-body experience. Always captivates me wherever i am, or whatever i'm doing, and takes me into their world. Love it!

  • @Amaranthos2
    @Amaranthos2 4 года назад +15

    Welp, I tell you what, we'll make a deal. I'll like and comment now, and then on the way home here in a minute I'll watch, and you can be awesome during that part. Sound good? Good stuff then let's go

    • @JohnHennyVocalStudio
      @JohnHennyVocalStudio  4 года назад +6

      Agreed!

    • @Amaranthos2
      @Amaranthos2 4 года назад +9

      @@JohnHennyVocalStudio Okay so:
      1) "she makes the vowel sound more beautiful than it actually is."
      2) "I don't ever get the sense that she's showing off. The song is so big that it requires a lot of skill to rise to the occasion of."
      3) The Wagner comparison
      ...Subbed, take my money

    • @user-jy1bc3gw2q
      @user-jy1bc3gw2q 4 года назад +8

      @@JohnHennyVocalStudio *PLEASE* do *The Greatest Show on Earth (Wembley).*
      I like this song even more than the Poet and the Pendulum (but only barely), and being the last song of the set Floor really lays it all out. I also think this performance has the best sound overall from the band, and Richard Dawkins actually makes an appearance at the end as a guest which is pretty sweet.
      Lots of people will say Tampere because yes, Tuomas coordinated fireworks with the music which they manage to get surprisingly near perfect. 😏 It is also the version people are the most familiar with, but the *Wembley* performance was more recently released as the *Official Live version* on the official Nightwish channel. My inner classical musician agrees with them as I find it to be more technically interesting. 😁
      I also recommend doing some minor research as well, but *Tl;dr,* this song is named after the book *"The Greatest Show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins.* It inspired Tuomas to write this 30 minute masterpiece (although they will only ever perform 20 of those minutes live in concert) about the evolution of our universe and our species.

    • @johnscaramis2515
      @johnscaramis2515 4 года назад

      @@user-jy1bc3gw2q Maybe switch somewhere in between? For the beginning of the song, I'd recommend the Tampere version with the fireworks timed to the music.

    • @user-jy1bc3gw2q
      @user-jy1bc3gw2q 4 года назад +3

      @@johnscaramis2515 .... What? Please tell me that isn't a serious suggestion. And no way, I prefer the beginning of the Wembley performance musically. They're fireworks, it's a gimmick. He can easily appreciate the fireworks another time by watching the first minute of the video if he wants to. This is a musician critiquing music.

  • @ugk1106
    @ugk1106 4 года назад +2

    I think its a YT-problem or bandwidth problem with desychronized drummer moves and the sound you mentioned. I noticed it with other music videos too.

  • @maggaw9869
    @maggaw9869 4 года назад +2

    Songwriter,composer = TUOMAS HOLOPAINEN.from Finland.

  • @theraak9428
    @theraak9428 4 года назад +5

    How about continue to Nightwish Trilogy.. The last Trilogy is "Nightwish - The Greatest Show on Earth"

  • @parrotheadlasvegas
    @parrotheadlasvegas 4 года назад +7

    Thanks for another wonderful video and for doing this respectfully! When the band fired Tarja, they weren't just firing a singer. She was Tuomas' childhood friend. This band is a BIG deal in Finland and even the Prime Minister was coming out and being publicly critical. Between the fans' criticism, government figures coming down on him, and having to sever ties with a dear friend, Tuomas was very nearly truly suicidal. He wrote this rather than actually killing himself. Thanks for doing right by it.
    For your next Nightwish tunes, The Greatest Show on Earth live in Tampere is an epic masterpiece that will blow you away :) If you don't want quite such a long piece, though, I have a few other suggestions. Slaying the Dreamer live in Buenos Aires is an amazing duet on par with Phantom of the Opera in my opinion, Romanticide live at Waken 2013 is short, powerful, and there's a fun bit at the very end that might impress you, and Sleeping Sun live in Tampere is just gorgeous. To hear some great Marko performances, The Islander live in Tampere, While Your Lips are Still Red live at Wembly, I Want My Tears Back at Waken are great, but please consider checking out Death March for Freedom live from his first solo tour off his first solo album Pyre of the Black Heart ;)
    Thanks again and have an amazing day!!!

    • @lastword9475
      @lastword9475 4 года назад

      Tuomas admitted to Tarja being a distant friend and he had no regrets in stabbing her, even doubling down on the appropriateness of his actions followed by vindictive songs...

  • @siksimiksiFTW
    @siksimiksiFTW 4 года назад +42

    She pronounces "in", "the rain" and "home" as most not-English Europeans would. I had no idea "in" is supposed to sound different.

    • @JohnHennyVocalStudio
      @JohnHennyVocalStudio  4 года назад +27

      Native english speakers need to adjust their vowels just like Floor does, for acoustic reasons. She is a master at vowel tuning.

    • @guhmeel
      @guhmeel 4 года назад +9

      John Henny Vocal Studio It might because she is natural durch speaking. The dutch language has a lot of character combinations that makes it hard for non-native dutch to speak it. And on the otherside it allows dutch natives to speak difficult aspects of other languages easier than others.

    • @nicod1361
      @nicod1361 4 года назад +8

      @@JohnHennyVocalStudio Brilliant Again !! thank you ! you are really on a roll ! pl;ease see Floor's vocals on EverDream & storyTime from Wacken 2013, then her Vilja Lied & Shallow from Beste Zangers, then her brilliance on Hows The Heart Acoustic lyric & of course the current release from Human/Nature : Shoemaker : it's all about the ending of that song :)

    • @rabinahmadahmad8189
      @rabinahmadahmad8189 4 года назад +1

      Mr@@guhmeel i'm subscriber from Malaysia...pleasse reacts to Malaysian nombor one singer SITI NURHALIZA - WHEN YOU TELL ME THAT YOU LOVE ME / I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU
      ruclips.net/video/0HSq05iUjas/видео.html

    • @epoxje
      @epoxje 4 года назад +2

      Also.. there is absolutely no need for an accent there as the tones are very present in dutch to say "in" like you would expect normally in english.

  • @joecrafted
    @joecrafted 4 года назад +4

    Great reaction, I love how you talked so much about her pronunciation and how it fit into the song and how she was singing. I've watched at least 20 reactions to this song (by vocal coaches and others) and you are the first one to explain that. Thank you!

  • @justinchristoph3725
    @justinchristoph3725 4 года назад +2

    Floor is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to vocal technique. Every vocal coach I've seen on RUclips who reacts to her is massively impressed because they know exactly what she's doing and how she's doing it. You should see her do Opera, specifically Puccini's "O mio babbino caro" which you can find on RUclips. If she had been born in Japan, she would be considered a Living National Treasure.

  • @moosein_ussr4493
    @moosein_ussr4493 2 года назад +2

    When the boy (poet) says 3 min, set your stop watch and watch.

  • @BamaGrammy
    @BamaGrammy 4 года назад +4

    I really don't usually like expose of vocal techniques, but you're different. I can actually hear what you're explaining and it's in a way I can understand and see what you mean. Although at the same time ,pausing the song breaks up the flow. That's okay! Cause I can always listen to it later!! Your reactions are really excellent, keep up the good work!!! 🎹🎶🎺🎷🎧🎤👊👍😀😁😜

    • @BamaGrammy
      @BamaGrammy 4 года назад +1

      "Expose"was supposed to be "explaining" I am kinda good at reading autonotcorrect! Don't think it's an official language LoL!

  • @AT-if8bj
    @AT-if8bj 4 года назад +4

    Perhaps you like something new in an other version.... Look at: Nightwish - How's The Heart Acoustic (Planet Rock acoustic session)

  • @F1rstWorldNomaD
    @F1rstWorldNomaD 4 года назад +2

    As for the basist singing.
    This is probably his *least* impressive preformance.
    Not due to him failing in any way but due to the nature of the song not requiring his actual talent.
    Marco is absolutly fantastic.
    Im not a scholar on music or singing by any measure but I know he sounds good enough to not be a bad singer and his delivery and precense is absolutly phenomenal.
    Check out "The Islander" a song where Marco sings alone.
    You're the expert so *if* you disagree with me I won't really challenge your judgment as I have no factual or educational grounds to do so but *I* think he's absolutly outstanding.
    The Acoustic version from the Tempere show is a really good version as gives his voice even more room to shine.

  • @user-yy7tw9hv9n
    @user-yy7tw9hv9n 4 года назад +10

    Toumas the keyboardist writes the songs, I think he composes as well I'm not entirely sure.

    • @lekalla
      @lekalla 4 года назад +4

      He's a songwriter so he composes and writes the lyrics.

    • @Idefixu
      @Idefixu 4 года назад +2

      @@lekalla And arranges the songs and does the staging.

  • @Shamankzn
    @Shamankzn 4 года назад +5

    Another great reaction to my favourite band, thanks, John!

  • @Hamish_Whitehaven
    @Hamish_Whitehaven 3 года назад +1

    Dont forget Nightwish Storytime Live...for me this is Floors best Performance..

  • @allenjohnstone9945
    @allenjohnstone9945 4 года назад +2

    Floor has 20 years+ of learning what she is capable of. This song is personal to Toumas and she carries it beautifully. Pretty much how she interprets every song. Dead boys poem live from BA.
    Edit:I'm probably around your age and grew up with Yes and King Crimson along with Tull and Floyd. Early Genesis also rocks.

  • @kezca
    @kezca 4 года назад +4

    Well that was a great reaction and analysis of an epic performance. I concur with other suggestions to checkout high hopes pink Floyd interpretation it is fabulous. Thankyou.

  • @antoinewalker9393
    @antoinewalker9393 4 года назад +1

    Its a longshot but please react to babymetal - akatsuki. Thank so much! ! ! ☺😊 Sorry for bad english! ! ! !

  • @libbygwinn3937
    @libbygwinn3937 4 года назад +4

    Thank you, again. Technique information is very much appreciated. I watch her repeatedly, to try to catch what you presented today.

  • @JJyra-po8iz
    @JJyra-po8iz 2 года назад +1

    Im late on this comment, but thank you for this very professional analysis. Btw, the sound technician is Kimmo Ahola..

  • @ranqo4294
    @ranqo4294 3 года назад +1

    Please : Nightwish - Ever Dream (Wacken 2013)

  • @larryd4352
    @larryd4352 3 года назад +1

    I absolutely love this song...not only for the emotional rollercoaster it takes me on, but for how all of the pieces of this song fall into place so beautifully.
    As a man that suffered from depression that led to becoming an alcoholic...what Tuomas wrote in this song could have been me! I decided to stop and turn my life around 22 years and 3 months ago.
    I hope one day you will react to some of Disturbed's music! Their version of "The Sound Of Silence" is fabulous. Then there is "Hold Onto Memories" ..... "A Reason To Fight".... a cover of Stings " If I Ever Lose My Faith In You " that is fantastic. The whole album, titled "Evolution" is amazing!
    Love your channel..you remind me of our vocal coach during my days in college singing in a travelling choir ( I was one of the bass singers ) We traveled all over the south, up to Virginia, and back across the Midwest...back down into Texas. Lots of great memories!
    Love you channel! Oh....Nightwish Army, Texas Regiment! And a 64 year old Hard Rock / Heavy Metal enthusiast since I was 8 years old back in 1965!

  • @petesteinke9521
    @petesteinke9521 4 года назад +1

    Valkyrie goddess!!! Shield maiden!!! Prepare for battle!!!

  • @narkoticos7599
    @narkoticos7599 4 года назад +1

    Every single time, goddamnit the act/part 5 always brings the tears no matter how many time I heard this....
    John nice and educating reaction!
    #wewerehere

  • @Auldian
    @Auldian 2 года назад +1

    And hell yes to long prog rock! Suppers Ready is an all-time fave.

  • @robertsheeler321
    @robertsheeler321 4 года назад +2

    you nailed it , now about the song in short Tuomas (keyboard & composer) got so depressed when they fired there 1st singer & his best friend he wrote this , Its a on stage suicide instead of real life, the first part of spoken words it say I have but 3 min left well at exactly 3 min from then is when he slit his throat on stage. then the last part Mother & Father the words are what his real parents said to him durning this depression and at the end Emppu & Marco stands by him for support

  • @alexisthibodeau1300
    @alexisthibodeau1300 4 года назад +1

    If you want to hear more from Marco Hietala (the bassist) I highly suggest "The Islander" and "While Your Lips Are Still Red". They’re both masterpieces.
    Also I always recommend my favorite song cover ever, Pink Floyd’s "High Hopes" by Nightwish!

  • @johannessilver8653
    @johannessilver8653 4 года назад +1

    I expected something else than just analyse of her vocal work. This song is so much more and the point is totally elsewhere. In the album Anette (the replacement for Tarja) sings this also so well. But I do agree she sing well this no doubt as he sings his part too.

  • @ecthelion1735
    @ecthelion1735 4 года назад +2

    She's Dutch. The Netherlands had a higher percentage of fluent English speakers than America.

  • @retrospect6904
    @retrospect6904 3 года назад +1

    Toumas (keyboard) is running the orchestra...he developes everything, from composing most of the bands music, to creating instruments that are not on stage...he is a musical genius.

  • @liesjedegie1001
    @liesjedegie1001 4 года назад +19

    I really love Floor! She's a Valkerie. But i missed a reaction about Marco. He's such a good singer to. He's so good that he compliments Floor beautifully. Try the islander live at Tampere, or While the lips are still red!

    • @JohnHennyVocalStudio
      @JohnHennyVocalStudio  4 года назад +2

      He is a very good singer!

    • @yvonnecampbell7036
      @yvonnecampbell7036 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnHennyVocalStudio And now their cover of Pink Floyd's "HIGH HOPES". Marko really shines here and NO FLOOR! XD. Love your view on this. Very respectful.

    • @nicod1361
      @nicod1361 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnHennyVocalStudio be honest John,what other singers have you come across with Floor's talent,agility, & range, keep in mind you have not seen everything she has to show yet :)

  • @gsparkman
    @gsparkman 4 года назад +1

    Like Marco’s voice? View the Nightwish rendition of Pink Floyd’s “High Hopes” from the End of an Era concert 2005 (?). It’s a Marco tour d’force. I think I like it better than the original, and that’s saying something!

  • @chardonnay5767
    @chardonnay5767 4 года назад +3

    Your insight on the "pocket" was great, that was something I'd been wondering about in this song whether there was some kind of special significance to it. Now I understand that it's a vocal technique, and a pretty high level one at that.

  • @angelapierce6764
    @angelapierce6764 4 года назад +1

    Yes! So happy you did this song. For Marko( bassist) I think you should check out The Islander it focuses on his singing ability and is really a beautiful song.

  • @mynanaleo
    @mynanaleo 4 года назад +1

    check out Marko Hietala and Floor Jansen singing AVE MARIA... in Poet&thePendulum Marko sounds hard but there is such a soothing quality in his voice

  • @NetAndyCz
    @NetAndyCz 2 года назад +1

    If you enjoy long songs then the Greatest show on Earth is a must;) Not sure if you reacted to it, do not see it in my recommendations :p

  • @beatrizrosa3841
    @beatrizrosa3841 4 года назад +1

    You need to react to Dimash unforgettable day Gakku concert
    It's absolutely amazing

  • @yvonnegevers6175
    @yvonnegevers6175 3 года назад +1

    Awaiting your comments to either The greatest show on earth, or Story time! Even better: commenting both!

  • @RavensFlock9592
    @RavensFlock9592 4 года назад +1

    Just discovered this band three weeks ago. Kicking myself for not discovering them sooner.

  • @jorgkuijt4735
    @jorgkuijt4735 4 года назад +1

    We would love to Floor reacting to all the voice coaches....But I'dd preferr to to her working an new awesome stuff....

    • @jorgkuijt4735
      @jorgkuijt4735 4 года назад

      Just want to say...you are analyzing technicaly instead of feeling the music with your eyes closed lying on some surface...

  • @pingut22
    @pingut22 4 года назад +1

    You should watch The Greatest Show on Earth live at Tampere... You'll be amazed... by Floor and by Marko (the bassist)

  • @yoligonzalez6011
    @yoligonzalez6011 3 года назад +1

    Great reaction. More Nightwish please!!!!

  • @Mustaschy
    @Mustaschy 4 года назад +1

    This is an amazing song. Floor is really versitile and shows it in different parts in the song she is singing (not only in Nightwish). Marko is also a great singer and please react to "The islander" or Nightwish cover of pink Floyd´s "High hopes". Just two of Marco´s great performances with Night wish. Please keep Floor and Nightwish coming on your channel, there is so much to discover. Wanna react to Floor growling? Check out "Your is an empty hope" Live from Wembley. Just a fun fact is when the boy voice says "Now I only have three minutes and counting" there is exactly 3 minutes to Tuomas slits his throat in the song. I wish you a wonderful weekend and now I am a sub. :)

  • @sophiepalmer-doran344
    @sophiepalmer-doran344 4 года назад +2

    This song is about the depression Tuomas slipped into after the band fired Tarja. People he thought were his friends turned on him. He thought about committing suicide, but fortunately for the world he chose to do it virtually in a song. Some of the symbolism is drawn from Edger Allen Poe's story the Pit and the Pendulum, which is about the last thoughts of a person who is strapped to a table while pendulum slowly descends to kill him. Hence the reference to Tuomas only having 3 minutes left. this song is about the lyrics and their meeting.
    ps even if you do not know the lyrics i am watching the body laungage and also the narrator you can tell the narrater of the song is in pain both mental and emoinal then is at peace twards the end

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 4 года назад

      This guy's not in it for the story Sophie. Not his thing. Vocals mainly, and music composition secondarily.

  • @rrhill113
    @rrhill113 2 года назад +1

    John Henry welcome to the Nightwish army..

  • @AnOldGreyDog
    @AnOldGreyDog 4 года назад +1

    When you say that you don't get the sense that she's showing off, that's pretty much true of the band as a whole. The Nightwish philosophy seems to be "everything in the service of the song, not of the musicians". Consider: you just listened to a 14-minute song with _no_ guitar solo. How many guitarist's egos would let _that_ one go by?
    You realise that you're trapped, don't you? There's Greatest Show on Earth, Romanticide, Song of Myself and a dozen more each showing off a different facet of her abilities. And _then_ we'll have you going through all the songs on the latest album, where she stretches herself to new heights that she's never reached before.
    Then you've got to look at Marko. And you've haven't even met Troy, yet.
    There's a long way to go; I hope you brought a packed lunch...
    (PS Good call on Close to the Edge and Supper's Ready 👍🏻)

  • @Mackieee
    @Mackieee 4 года назад +4

    This was a very personal song for Tuomas (they keyboardist); dealing with his feelings surrounding removing their old singer Tarja from the band, they had been lifelong friends and band members for years. It was his therapy for dealing with that loss and the guilt, but knowing it was the right thing to do. The song is almost him judging himself.
    Floor has said before she is a strong empath, and often associates sound to feelings and vice versa - and I think you can really tell and hear the pain in her voice in this song - knowing that this song means a lot to Tuomas and wanting to do it justice. And I think she nails the emotional element in this so beautifully. I get chills every time.

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 4 года назад

      This guy's not in it for the story Bud. Not his thing. Vocals mainly, and music composition secondarily.

    • @Mackieee
      @Mackieee 4 года назад +1

      @@MoMoMyPup10 emotion is a huge element of vocals...

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 4 года назад

      @@Mackieee Yeah but that doesn't apply here, as Floor has no emotional attachment to the saga. He was asked to read the backstory - he gave us the extent he was interested in it. He didn't ask for more info. He left it at that. Just because a song means something different to the fans doesn't mean everyone who's just tuning in now wants or needs to know in order to evaluate the vocalist(s).

    • @Mackieee
      @Mackieee 4 года назад +1

      @@MoMoMyPup10 what are you the comment police? his spokesperson? who am i hurting by commenting my thoughts on the video? lmao shhhh

  • @Magyarkhan
    @Magyarkhan 9 месяцев назад +1

    Goddess of Voice casually mass healing the audience.

  • @cree_VI
    @cree_VI 4 года назад +2

    Please do reaction of their new songs: "Shoemaker" and "Music", Floor said, that was very big challenge for her, i really love those songs

  • @philipwright2883
    @philipwright2883 2 года назад +1

    Nightwish live is always so much better than the studio versions

  • @marknathan6699
    @marknathan6699 2 года назад +1

    Keep being unpretentious, we could care less sbout being in a classroom

  • @MKEbcl
    @MKEbcl 4 года назад +3

    I’m going be totally late for somewhere I have to be but I just have to watch this right now. The world can wait, I need some Floor.

  • @peterkeijsers489
    @peterkeijsers489 3 года назад +1

    Totally missed the '3 minute mark'.

  • @harrympower
    @harrympower 4 года назад +1

    can you believe this is live ? i think i don't want even a studio version... give me the live soundtrack

  • @eljuanchosf
    @eljuanchosf 4 года назад +2

    Again, fantastic analysis. Definitely going to buy your book. Thank you, and much love from Madrid, Spain.

  • @Wisznuification
    @Wisznuification 4 года назад +2

    "I've been told that a base player can sing". Well, The Islander is next, I guess..?

  • @yourwinefamily1939
    @yourwinefamily1939 4 года назад +1

    Check out Floor on 'Beste Zangers 2019", Netherlands show, in 7 episodes she sings opera, salsa, ballads, pop, more, in English, Dutch, German, and Spanish. Just Amazing! Believe you already did the last episode of her and Henk Poort doing the Phantom of the Opera.

  • @cheribomb2628
    @cheribomb2628 4 года назад +1

    You will definitely love "How's The Heart Acoustic (Planet Rock acoustic session)
    " from Nightwish, her voice in that song is AMAZING. PS: I love your reactions and how you explain everything, excellent job. Greetings from Argentina!

  • @jmetallover
    @jmetallover 4 года назад +1

    Imagine Tuomas/keyboards who writes and arranges 95% of the bands efforts including working with the London Philharmonic to make sure the tracks are perfect, now he has Floor who can sing anything his imagination can come up with. Marco/bass is also a great vocalist so pairing them together gives this band almost unlimited potential to do whatever they want. Great reaction and especially the explanations of Floor's various techniques throughout the song.

  • @Flickerboy
    @Flickerboy 4 года назад +1

    Check the bassist Marko! Check the cover of "high hopes" from the end of an era dvd, or "the islander " live from Tampere!!

  • @eriksimca9409
    @eriksimca9409 4 года назад +3

    you want to hear more of marco? islander, he doesnt sing this sharp but he shows a whole other side of his singing which is still good