Jimmy Lavender (Part 1) on Being Called "Raymond Washington" Hater
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2018
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In Part 1 of 2 Jimmy addresses allegations of being a "Raymond Washington hater", and talking to Raymonds daughter on the phone. #JimmyLavender #KevMacVideos
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I like to personally thank each and everyone of you for your respect... After the up coming Jimel Barn's interview I will make a few comments to intelligence questions only....And then I'm done speaking on both Jimel and Raymond.....I find it's sad that grown ass men can't except truth.... Check out any thing I said if it's true you should stand by truth no matter who it comes from....case and point ...I said Raymond wasn't the best with his hands...I get a hundred hates..Moon from Avenues said Raymond wasn't the best he gets 0 hates..... Some of us have a long way to go I question some of your age..... your mind set.... your unwilling to except truth.... But your willingness to except none truth......A guy named Bone did a documentary staying Crips had the Lavenders on the roof for hours... This was a slap in the face.....A guy that was probably a baby lie... This is not in Crip nor bishop history but another lie that will be told over and over.......I have shared with you my story and the truth as I know it to be.......You can take it or leave it alone.....If you question why more triple og don't come out.... Maybe it's the negative response the names were called by grow men...... guys who are now seniors sharing with you truth and your response is like children do you know or do you not know that we have children grandchildren and even great grandchildren's yet we come out to speak to you in truth that you might know true history sometimes we are a foolish people the amount of hate that we have towards one another is simply disturbing and when this hate comes from grown men 20 30 40 and even 50 years old is simply scary
Jimmy Lavender Respect ! Well said Big Bro
do not let these people get to you, Some people are children to the very end, Raymond washington is dead so they hold him out to be some sort of fairy tale figure when we should all know he was human too. Some of us out here respect you very much for sharing what you can with us . I personally would love to hear you talk more about that era especially about 92nd and beach st. i actually stayed there briefly and was in awe when you pointed out your house there and your garage, i had no idea that was your spot like that.
Mr Lavender you must understand that your legacy is written in stone. And now that we are grown the bitterness begins to show from those who really wasn’t a factor in history of this culture. And they wanna rewrite history to fit in!✌🏾😂Dj Vegas
Jimmy Lavender You are well respected by those who accept the truth and seeks the facts when it comes to history. I'm 45 and on the East Coast and truly appreciate you and KM for your time and honesty.
Jimmy Lavender O.G. Forget them Haters!!! If you was a lie they wouldn’t be hating. Truth hurts !! May God keep blessing you O.G!!!
Jimmy is my favorite. I love how he carries himself.
mine too
unun septium
Thats how Real OGs age!
Wise Dude..
I swear I love Jimmy he a stand up dude, WATUP KEV
Jimmy telling the truth.
Man ain't hating he just telling the truth. Craig was huge back then. If he slapped u u just got slapped 😂
After all this is a history channel....
Jimmy Lavender indeed. If it happened it happened. They try to make these guys seem like they weren't kids when all this began
I feel like thats about right Speak, if u a shorty in the nieghborhood messin with a factor and he smack u for messing with him like u said u just got smacked lol .
Plus he was probably, older..
I thought this was common knowledge about big Craig Munson giving Raymond a slap...wasn't Raymond 3-4 years younger than Munson? IE still a kid while Munson was 18-19 and swole...no shame in that game...
You can tell he doesn’t lie and is solid
Gary Burton ur just biased cuz you claiming 60s LOL
Gary Burton everybody doesn’t lie ahki, there’s many people who don’t speak much but listen 👂.
@Gary Burton Jesus fake
Craig Munson so strong he slapped the Crips into existence with just the back of his hand 🖐🏾 😂😂
Westcoast California Homie u couldn't do it 🤣🤣🤣👈🏿👈🏿👈🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿
JIMMY LAVENDER ICON HISTORIAN HOODATICIAN GENERAL
I like Jimmy Lavender because he takes all the mythological shit out of it and brings in the human element. They were all kids at one point not demons running wild killing people.
Mr & Mrs Plummer 💯
That ain't deep, everyone starts off as a kid. but they obviously loss their innocence at some point & choose to start killing.
Aros De Humo we choose to defend our love ones from a large gang that was terrorising LA.killing and beating our people.....if America was being attacked would she fight back...yes..... would you protect your family ? As a matter of fact... what would you have done....
In order to understand the significance of Craig Munson slapping Raymond , you need to comprehend how physically huge Craig was and he was older than Raymond by a few years. Remember also that Munson went to prison for beating a dude to death with a hammer. That doesnt make Raymond look like a punk. It makes him appear HUMAN.
sun rah 44 I agree
I was just thinking the other day, how would things would have been if Munson had not went to prison
king tau
Interesting to speculate on that. Munson has said in an interview that he was pretty much done banging by his late teens as were a lot of these O.G'S , so its probable that things would have turned out just the way they did, with Raymond Kicking off what became first a citywide, then a worldwide phenomenon that has lasted nearly half a century.
sun rah 44 I agree most of the Avenues was Munson age....The young Avenues was so few and actually ran with Raymond...... such as.. Black Joe...and crack eye Greg....by18 most had given up that life.... peace family
Jimmy Lavender i grew up around the corner from where Raymond grew up on 76th St.
Doesn't sound like hate to me. It sounds like Jimmy Lavender is just being objective.
His voice is so calm and peaceful, he should be a narrator or public speaker..
History is, as history is. If it happened, it happened. You can't change history. No one has a history of complete "W's" in life. No one, and that included Raymond😎
Original Mr.Q, Yeah 110%😎
the Truth stands on its own, Pharoah 1...
RED MONEY, real talk👍👍👍
Did he take a l I guess. But Munson had a army behind him.....literally. He had 30 dudes on deck throw in probably in the sets stomping grounds. Raymond wasn't invincible because he started the cribs. This dude didn't say if Raymond wanted a fare one . He just slapped him and walked away telling the dude he smacked he's going to start the crips gtfoh. Should be more or if he's really his friend should know more.
Pharoah 1 &55
Big ups to your new channel, and your first guest, Mr. Jimmy Lavender👍👍👍
Jimmy Lavender had that raw visual proof of the beginning in that Jr high yearbook
And that's true about Raymond being very athletic. He was always at the pool at Roosevelt Park. And, for those who don't know, this was long before the pool was indoors🏊
Pharoah 1 do you know if Raymond Washington was present during the Robert baliou murder at the Hollywood palladium?
All of his east Texas family are athletic too.
@sordidC I wonder why folks dont think Raymond had East Texas ties. May be from his father and he first generation born in LA. But family ties dont disappear
Classic interview. This is what fosters unity, and moving forward with a new focus.
If Mr lavender story is correct which I believe it has a very important lesson for youngsters Raymond Washington the crip founder a man who gangster is unprecedented was able to take a loss like a man. Didn’t want to shoot Craig Munson he took his loss and bounced back like a true gangster.
justin jones .... That's all he could have done...He definitely was against all odds...I believe he made the right decision
And you made the wrong decision starting ah gang in your mother's garage and you're surrounded by Crips!!! And Bishops are being killed right now because of your dumb decision CUZZ! You've got 89 EC NHC and others killing Bishops because of that dumb decision to be Anti Crip which is pure stupidity when the Black community is predominantly CRIP!!!! You're the FOOL OLD MAN!!!!
And you made the wrong decision starting ah gang in your mother's garage and you're surrounded by Crips!!! And Bishops are being killed right now because of your dumb decision CUZZ! You've got 89 EC NHC and others killing Bishops because of that dumb decision to be Anti Crip which is pure stupidity when the Black community is predominantly CRIP!!!! You're the FOOL OLD MAN!!!!
ONE TRUE GOD you sound ignorant.. the truth hurts over 15,000 men & women have been murdered over the past 50 years between Crips and Bloods. At the end of the day nobody won. When the Crips started they did nothing but destruction in the Black community, like killing innocent young black men over a leather coat, I salute the ones who chose anti Crip, and said we ain't with that negativity shit, however ended up becoming just like the Crips.. this shit was started by some teenagers, just think of that mentality, you sound like you still stuck in that same teenager mentally. I hope your mind evolves someday.
ONE TRUE GOD .....I bet your one of those wine drinker on the Conner still crippling at 50 years old..... with no further...... your discussing and a Crip disgrace
Kev Jimmy is a good interview man. I think he's slept on allot. To comment on what Jimmy wad talking about, he said in his 1st interview that they had Raymond over at their house for a talk. I don't think a hater would have took the time to have a meeting with someone.
Jimmy's Audio quality is on point! Your voice distorts at times, but another great one!
Jimmy Lavender is one of my favorites to watch. I can tell that Jimmy wasn't for the bullshit. I thought Raymond and Jimmy was the same age. Great interview brotha Kev and I'm getting my feet back under me know so I will be donating to your platform. I hope you can get a round table together with Jimmy Lavender , Barefoot Pookie, Cutes, AC Bobalouie and Tyrone Tate. That would be amazing to witness. So brotha Kev I will make sure I do my part to support your channel. The OG's that you interview put your content above anything else out there, continue your great work.
Solid interview👍👍👍
Dope interview
Every interview you do with mr lavender is solid.he seems very honest and has great recall of past events.very humble and honest.one of those men that doesnt have much bad to say about anyone.if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all seems to be the motto here.
GOOD INTERVIEW! IM NOT SURPRISED A JUVENILE STREET GANG STARTED FROM A SLAP 👋 ! PEOPLE ACT LIKE THESE GUYS WERE NOT HUMAN! LOL
Adrian Mcinnis Thanks folks
Adrian Mcinnis
And not teenagers
Jimmy Lavender You're a good brother,keep up the work....
But what we need now is another peace treaty out here and a plan to move into our own land...As long as we're in America there won't be any peace
people keep FORGETTING when the OOOG tells the story of the SLAP. That SLAP came from a much older and stronger Craig Monson.
Cherry Jumpman I agree.. We're living in the devil's work shop
I didn’t know about this channel ... I’ve been missing out
Crippin started with a slap! That's as real as it gets.
thx for new channel KM!
Kev, first off congratulations on your progress, brother. I had a suggestion or so and will keep it pleasant. We love when you include photographs of those interviewed and also the ones mentioned but unavailable in one way or another. Please continue to do so whenever possible for we like to see our brothers and sisters in every relevant aspect. One more thing, you see I mentioned “sisters”...Where are the Cripalettes??
Powerful shit man !!! Raymond was his Patna you can tell by the stories
Checking in
Love the way that video ended. Man, Kev Mac is putting together something powerful.
THIS IS A GREAT INTERVIEW
This is a sad story cuz. Jimmy and Raymond was friends and neither one of them realize at the time how important it was to kept more in contact with each other. I think this hurts Jimmy talking about it , maybe we should not hassle Mr.Lavender over this subject anymore ,He is no young man anymore. Thanks Jimmy for taking out your time with Kev and helping us to understand the beginning stages of this bloods cuz show.
Mario Greene Yea thats whats sad about this. Two of his teen hood friends were to become gang members the opposite of his gang. Raymond never thought that Ac and Jimmy would be around today to tell who Raymond Washington was before he form Crip.
A ir Hats .... Raymond's family wrote a book... Some ask me if I knew if this was true..... Read the book...... But don't ask me if it's true.....You will then understand I'm not a Raymond hater..... Call his family a hater if you may....... sure I left out many stories....Ask me why.......Do you all not realize by speaking truth I received hate.....Do you all know too well known Crip leader approach Munson on what I said.... They both came back one personally apologize to me.....I repeated the slap because most didn't know why Raymond started his gang....I was first told it was a knock out...I went to Munson he said it was a slap not a knock out... I came back on air and said what Munson said..... This is history it doesn't or shouldn't matter who tells it....I said Raymond wasn't the best with his hands...I gets a hundred hates moon. Who also live and no us said their was many Raymond could not fade he gets 0 hates......we as men must learn to accept truth..... peace be upon you
Jimmy Lavender I understand OOOG. Totally agree with you.
I notice you give all of us your best memory as of you could remember * I know its not intenionally , You have a big heart Mr.Lavender. i know its also dangerous on your end at your age.Thanks for giving us your Best ,And you a Blessing to still be with us Mr.Lavender. SALUTE from the CUZ side.
A ir Hats I wish everyone had your maturity...... much respect.... Remember gang life is a life leaving to self destruction.....As well to our people.... Besafe
Jimmy is one of the best interviews Kev has done so i can see why he would interview him a few times. Respect to the OG.
Munson was a beast with unreal strength. He traveled the world bodybuilding with the best of them. Raymond had no chance, being younger he probably didn't have the strength or mindset of an older Avenue G. He made the right decision going off and starting his own crew the crips.
Great video brah..stay up
Just subscribed to this channel good content... Much luv from Quiet loc westgate crip dawgz Albuquerque nm
Kev Macc always ask good questions. Kev are u a journalist or are u a natural. Everything u talk about or ask is always on point. Your not afraid to ask the questions to the answers we want 2 hear. Much love and respect 2 Kev. Theme song is major 🔥
Kev Mac you a true hood historian homie I love and appreciate your content
Just subscribed 💯
Nobody perfect, if Raymond was young it makes sense that the older dudes of the hood would treat him. But Raymond had to have some kind of hands or people wouldn't follow him.
Didnt know you had a second page!!
Respect Triple OG Jimmy Lavender one of my favorite interviews!
Keep up the good work Kev✊🏾💯
A man of respect. Nothing but love for the humble OG Jimmy Lavender!!!
Kev you ask awesome questions!
Raymond was a child going up against a grown man who put his hands on him keep it a hundred
shawn hurd my point wasn't about toughness.....For one the room was full of Avenues.I said that...I wanted to point out why Raymond started his gang..... it's history
Salute to you Kev Mac. I feel like you published this video just for me. Lol.
OOOG JIMMY LAVENDER is no hater,Problem is many younger Crips that never met Raymond Washington wanna believe thier founder was an invincible super hard ass cat
I watched his first interview way back and it's one of my favourites the man was speaking truth no hate . The man is well spoken the stories were vividly clear in my mind.
Oh a new channel, how long this been up?
Amazing video.
Live Streams and things of that nature...
This story dope and need to be heard !!
Much love and respect OOOG..Mr.Lavender!
The best thing about this video is that it's one of the first videos that really described how Raymond Washington really was. You can get a better idea of how Raymond was and how he related to other people in his peer group. Great video as always @Big Kev Mac and Mr. Jimmy Lavender just tells it like it is. Keep doin your thing and I'm always looking forward to your next video.
#Salute!!!
Peace!
History runs deep amongst thd originals. I salute Mr. Lavender for his side of history. Understanding is key. This is deeper than Colors..
Great, Jimmy reminds me so much about my old neighbor big june. He showed me so much about gardening.
Ncarolina Most Definietly support Kev Mac Show.. Salute💯💯💯💯💯
Respect to Mr Lavender and Kev Mac
Yee!! More interviews with the HANK AARON of this sh*t!! Blessings 🙏
Keep pushing and bringing the heat Kev Mac! ✊
I needed that laugh... Thanks
Texas Promotions TV Thanks folks
EPIC!!!!
Seriously how is he hatn'? He's just giving history, respect to Mr. Lavender & Kev Mac for providing the platform for truth to be told.
Salute to the OOOG Jimmy.
Very wise man
Don’t go out your way to explain yourself there’s people are made to be misguided and it’s natural as that
like jimmy said ( people need to listen ) in kev macs first few interviews with jim , jim never said that raymond couldn't fight , and he definitely NEVER said that Ray was a coward . what he said was ( in my words ) that these documentary flicks always make it seem as though Raymond L. Washington was some type of folk lore warrior and that he beat the breaks off every cat he encounters .. Jim put it clear .. and kept it real and said YES Raymond loved to fight and was a fighter ..BUT not this mythical being that these lame tv documentary programs like Nat Geo ECT say he was . look its only common sense ..that Raymond was a bully and whooped alot of ass ..but he also must have lost a few fights . and I take jimmys word for it . we all sin some and loose some . what I will say is it seems like Raymond had 2 sides to him , as most of us do .. Raymond got down and he was a leader ..not so much of his fighting skills , but because the boy was a heck of a intelect minded cat who knew how to carry himself and talk to cats and get them to join this super gang " THE CRIBS " . respectfully my personal opinion is individuals like barefoot pookie and others throw add ons to Raymond. I think Raymond may have been a good leader with much people skills . but we also can't ignore that raymond washinton was disgruntled by what the crips had turned out to be .. I don't believe that Ray would have wanted all this killing going on and it has been proven so by the testimony of cats like jimmy amongst others who keep it real . for god sake the man adopted Rayshana ( Rays Daughter ) as his niece .. I don't see cutes ..pookie or others having that type of relationship with raymonds offspring so what gives man .. jimmy regardless of being a ex co founder of what would become a blood gang years later is raymonds true friend . may god guide jim .
@Raze The Mass: I don't understand the Putting him in a cross comment. I see keV as the instrument that created the Peace. Am I missing something?
Raze The Mass if you ONLY KNEW how LONG it took for me to find this post. Lol. Greetings Raze, I've known Kev for a long time and yeah, he can be cocky, and his attitude is so FUNCKY sometimes I just wanna grab him and SHAKE him. But he respects his elders and he has a beautiful heart. ( Shhhh don't tell him I said so.. I promise you I'll DENY IT) Kev is a journalist. He asks the hard questions, he asks the questions that get the responses and answers to the questions we have. I'm going to have to review ALL of the videos before I can respond any further and if I take to long to respond it's cuz I can't get back here. It took FOREVER to find this and THEN I found it by accident. Lol. Have a good day
Mother SoulJah Lol . No need to trip my good lady . I have no problem with you nor kev mac .. I've seen the real picture now . my intentions were good . have a good one
Raze The Mass Peace be with you Raze. One Love
Raze The Mass well said
facts vs feelings
He one of the coolest old heads out there... Love all his interviews
Tell Jimmy I said run that fade. I'm just fucking around, much respect to kev and mr lavender. Re- do some of the interviews I still wanna hear more from pretty(60 crip) mizz 90s as well as others. I wanna know was it east or west crips that killed Raymond. Mr lavender is 1 of my favorite speakers as well.
fucku kissmyass Thanks folks.... Besafe
I don't understand why people are calling him a hater I mean let's be honest our favorite OG's have taken losses in the game if you're in the streets it is bound to happen and we need to know the whole uncut history so Props kevmac and Jimmy lavender
kev mac, when they say they got kicked out of a school, please ask if they remember the incident or incidents that got them kicked out. Im pretty sure it will spark some memories
Damn, that last part about Raymond Washington's daughter almost got me.
Thanks Mr lavender for your history that you told about Raymond Washington I really truly think you guys were good friends and that these haters need to stop it. In my heart you always been a true Soldier. People just hate to understand truth I said keep on bringing her brother keep on bringing it!!!! One love once again Mr lavender.
Brian Williams Thanks folks....we were indeed friends.... from water fight's in the pool...He was the best ping pong player...
Subscribed
*_Shot our to Mr Joe Rockhead & others who’ve come on this platform to state that they’ve taken losses in hand to hand combat. Rockhead said he locked up every time with Rockhead from BH & loss, with pride. He gained my man’s respect & kept his name in the pen._*
*_Let’s deal with our insecurities & defeats in life fellas rather than refusing to acknowledge them, in all honesty. There isn’t any future in fronting._*
How in world did I miss this. Is this on older video
Great interviews, this is a man who could lead in any area if life given the circumstances. If you listen to this man and think he is a hater, then you have a problem with cognitive functions.
What was that song "if you don't know your history you can't have a strong foundation baby" was that Pimp C?
#Salute 💯💯💯
Just the way he talked you can tell he's telling the truth s*** if the man was a bully he was a bully lying on the dead don't make sense you are what you are when you walk the streets and when you walk the streets you leave a legend rather is good or bad it has to be told the truth
you can never know if someones lying or not. I know people that can lie to you with the same "humble and righteous" demeanor, that's no big deal for a real slick guy.
Not saying lavender is lying though. We will never know
You can’t even speak objective truth without being called a hater! It’s sad when you can understand that the truth isn’t always sweet and it’s bitter! That rejection into the Avenues and that slap motivated Raymond Washington to start the biggest street gang in the world. Nothing glorified about it, but it’s just raw truth. Leave Jimmy Lavender alone because once these elders are gone you’ll never get the real history anymore.
Its history. Don't be mad. Take it and 🏃if you weren't there you don't know.
The Lavenders too cool for school
Fuccin wit you OG wish I had a bank to support financially but i watch all ur shit and u put out the best shit on gang history 💙🧢
Jimmy lavender an original 92nd Street Master Bishop I've been knowing Jimmy for over 50 years and he is very truthful and sincere good to know he is well on the LIE I know his brother Bobby his sister mini and Brenda rest in peace love you big Jim
You should have well over 100k subscribers especially these outter town so called C’s & B’s.
Raymond was a bully smh I like how jimmy doesn’t try to mess up history due to how much of a friend they were. Cutes the type of guy that would big up people because of his relationship. Plus cutes was a young buck and he don’t know the real history
Jimmy Banged from 72-74 Cutes banged in 71, lol.
Jimmy keep shit real real for real, but has a disdain for Raymond. While Cutes may up someone, Jimmy will down talk his close friend Raymond and in Jimmy’s book he pretty much calls everyone a bully, even himself. So being a bully to Jimmy was a ordinary kid.
@@KMVideosLiveStreams no
Jimmy is sayin' they were-all bullies
because
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They were-all bullies.
Wakey-wakey, Kev Mac. You need to grow-out of this embarrassing gang-shit. It's cringe seeing you tryna be cool.
What's more is you need to stop distorting history and promoting - as 'hip' - those who, destroyed their-own lives and what's worse destroyed the lives of countless beautiful humans - so, you can pay for your gambling addiction.
Crips and Bloods are a disgrace.
As much as dudes love to talk. Surprised know one ever took credit for killin Raymond or at least tell who did it.
Here's the video of the person taking credit to what killed Raymond..
You will hear how, why and when
ruclips.net/video/tIzKt_fZwXM/видео.html
@@whiskers11234 no...
Didn't get a notification of this.
My bad kev i should’ve tuned in 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️4 years later sheesh ..💯💪🏽✊🏽
Kev you snuck one in on us 👍🏾
Mr. Labrador is one of the most intelligent gang members you have ever interview Kev Mac. Quite impressed with this guy he needs, to be the spokesman for this platform. Kev Mac you seem to be a pretty smart man should think about this. Real talk good work my brother
That some Real Shit The OG didnt speak Negative on the OG.just told it like it was .
Jimmy I been talking to ah og from hoova heard you are da real not only that but have mad love n respect💪. He's from Colden n hoova my fam told me about u fa sho💪
Charlie Murphy what did the 5 fingers say to the face. SMACK lol
It will be dope in Jimmy and AC was in the same interview.
SOLID KEV you all OVER the place OG. That's a good look 🔥. OOOG Mr. Lavender a SOLID Brother.
I am a subscriber now 💙
First on decc!
EAST OF THE 110, sounds like a Eastsider to me👍👍👍
Pharoah 1 most def!!
The reality of not allowing your neighborhood to turn blue back then...super love to all B-Dogs from the motherland.
Classic
I know raymond must've been hurt due to the fact he really looked up to the munsons , he took his Loss & bounced back like a G ... R.i.p Raymond washington founder of the Crips