Why So Many Americans Move To Florida And Not Georgia
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Florida and Georgia make up just about 10% of the entire United States' population. But while at one point Georgia was home to many more Americans than Florida, over the last few decades Florida has exploded in growth to become more than twice the size of Georgia! This is more surprising given that Georgia has grown considerably as well. Here's why Florida has grown so much faster than Georgia, and really almost every other state in the country.
0:00 The Florida and Georgia question
1:54 The origins of Florida and Georgia
5:43 Florida's dramatic growth
7:41 Florida and Georgia today
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i can tell you why immediately its that they wanna go to a state that supports white supremacy
Thank you for the hard work but yall man... 4 words No, state, income, tax
NEW florida ehhh still love her though
Make FLORIDA Great Again 🤔 Ron DeSantis
@@Booz2020 SO BASICALLY What kick out the Newyorkers?
Easy: Florida has 825 miles of coastline; Georgia has 150.
Nailed it.
Not that easy because if the coastline were the reason Florida should have ALWAYS had a larger population than Georgia. And as the video showed Georgia had a larger pop until 1950. The true reason is more subtle.
Also Georgia's largest city is nowhere close to the coast and has only 1 out of the largest 6 in the coast.
@@AtulKedia welll the only reason people weren’t going to the coastline was because nobody had made florida habitable (Ie not swamp) until the 1960s. So since the 1960s it is that easy, before hand not so much
@@parsnipproductions8875 Exactly! So it is not as easy as A has a larger coastline than B.
Georgia >>>>> 😡😡😡
As someone who grew up in Atlanta and now live in Florida, I think the biggest factor is one of the last points you mentioned. Florida has multiple major cities across the state while Georgia only has one. If Georgia is going to compete they have to invest heavily in cities like Savannah, Macon, Augusta, and Columbus.
I totally agree. The I-75/I-16 corridor between Atlanta (with the world's busiest airport) and Savannah (the 3rd largest seaport in the U.S.)...all connected by Macon (rich history, music, architecture and vibrant downtown). This area should be a major focus for Georgia's future.
Exactly
Maybe 2100 because I'm from Florida & stayed in GA a long time now GA has to almost spend Trillions or maybe a Zillion to redo those county town cities to much lack of city workers to maintain or even road ways or lack of street lights which save them maintenance probably why they didn't put gross themselves as over the top cities anyway per Capita of people.
I live near Savannah and right now, it is booming and expanding rapidly. It may never be ATL but it really is growing exponentially 😃
Thats true Georgia also has Atlanta Georgia needs to heavily invest in there cities besides Wrestling and Just Hollywood especially
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As a native Florida, I want to move to North Georgia. I love the mountains and nature of that state. I visited Tennessee and North Carolina but somehow North Georgia has stolen my heart ❤️ is beautiful and not crowded like Florida…
Agree! We live in Georgia, only a few minutes from the FL line. We take day trips to the Gulf Coast because it’s so close but most of our trips are to North Georgia where my daughter lives. Clayton, Dillard, Rabun Gap…we love it up there and spend a great deal of time there.
We do not want or need
Any more folks in and around The Savannah area..we got to many
Yankees now. We love yall to come visit.
Spend a lot of money
Enjoy our beautiful city
And southern charm.
Then leave.
@@Ramon-oy5fq It's okay. People will still move there anyways.
Boone North Carolina is a nice college town :)
@@Ramon-oy5fqyou leave if you dont like it.
Florida's population boom began with the advent of Air Conditioning . Which most Floridians both Old and New rarely leave except when at the Beach .
In Orlando, ppl will literally circle the Mall parking lot until a space close to the air conditioned entrace becomes available to avoid a 100ft walk in 100% humidity.
@@einrand and people flock to this place. IMAGINE 🤣
@Zane Dietlin I live here and its actually not that bad and I'm pretty sure it's worse in other southern states.
@@DeezNutsAreSoft yea your right an extreme example would be Mississippi or the small towns in South Carolina
It's not much different from SE Louisiana down here in Central FL, other than the fact that they get a bit colder winters.
Reasons?
1) a lack of Winter for most of the state.
2) invention and persistency of air conditioning
3) beaches, beaches, and more beaches
Good point on #2. Air conditioning was a gamechanger for the entire Southeast, really all of America south of the 38th parallel (except for the LA basin which grew earlier with its' ocean breeze).
11 million is still a lot of people. I think Georgia will gain more people in the future because Florida going to run out of room.
Lack of winter is not exactly a good thing. The thermal temperature of the human body needs a few months to cool down. Many people are leaving Florida for this very reason.
It may not be a good thing but old people usually hate the cold.
Winter is awesome
At least you can get property insurance in Georgia.
the comment thread and video are equally insightful and fascinating. I love this informative channel and all the feedback it generates. Provides a great picture of our country.
As a Georgian I can tell you that there are WAY too many people moving here. Glad it’s not worse.
Just in my part of the Atlanta area, where we moved in 2007 (I'm a native Georgian but moved from Cobb County), the traffic has over-doubled in congestion just in the past 15 years.
I think a high speed rail network is needed in Atlanta. The alternative could help reduce traffic congestion.
@@j.thompson9345 oh yes it would but look how MARTA is run right now, it'd be a nightmare.
@@j.thompson9345 We need commuter rail like VRE in northern Virginia.
GA population is projected to grow by 17% by 2040.
Prior to 1950, air conditioning was rare in the south, which made most of Florida a miserable place to live. The advent of cheap air conditioning had at least as much to do with Florida's growth as anything else.
Air conditioning units were not widely around until the 1960s and it was not central air it was the wall units.
But yet people move there for the weather?
@@hayden6700 Stupid, right? I moved to Florida in my early '20s and hated almost every minute of the weather.
@@bassman853 It is absolutely wonderful to live in such a large and diverse country where nearly everyone can find a climate and/or terrain that they enjoy. I love living at 7000 ft where the 90° days turn into 50° nights, where I get snow about five to eight times every winter, but if I don't bother shoveling it, it'll be melted in two days, and where, even on the hottest days, if I move into the shade the temperature drops about 10°. Florida was the worst state for me, but I'm glad you like it.
Florida doesn't have a state income tax, Georgia does
I have heard from locals living in NC that seniors that lived in northern states do move to Florida in search of heat and sunshine, but after a few years, they find it too much, so then they move to NC + SC to have a more moderate temperature.
In two decades "Why so many people move away from Florida"
As a native Georgian, my home state certainly has grown a lot in the past thirty years, and hopefully, it will continue to do so! My favorite fact about GA is that it is geographically quite diverse. We have beaches/barrier islands, mountains, various rivers, flat plains for farming and other unique structures (like Stone Mountain and Tallulah Gorge). It think a lot of nature lovers would enjoy exploring parts of the state.
I agree.
GA having a lot more elbow room sounds more of a plus to me as well.
Georgia is turning in the wrong direction. It’s growing to fast, to many ppl moving to Atlanta. Building is out of control. Living in Europe for a few years, you will appreciate small cities and controlled growth. Prague will never build skyscrapers in downtown. Pre 2000. Traffic was non existent. Now it’s worse than LA, well bc you the taxpayer are funding their tax credits as they bring their left ideology to our once great state.
Nice
@@CheveraChino European cities are TINY in comparison to American ones, physically. Places like Munich and Prague are only like 15 miles across the entire developed area, if that. Their largest cities, London and Paris are still much smaller in developed land area than Atlanta and Dallas-Fort Worth.
The largest urbanized, sort of cohesive swath in Europe is in the Rhine-Ruhr area of Germany.
We are absolutely packed to the gills here in Florida with new people. Never thought I'd see it crawling with people this bad. Just trying to get gas or groceries is insane and double the time it used to take just 10 years ago. The highways and schools and parks and hospitals cannot handle this new growth. Not sure how much more we can intake
😞
I notice that when I go to Ross store in the Plaza, the lines are all the way to the back nowadays. People must be coming here to shop. By Christmas Eve Day a person will only find a tinsel on the store shelves. I spent most of my life in this place so I know. The sun is too hot here. A lot of people from the Virgin Islands like Georgia.
It’s because our southern border is wide open. Notice the surge in native Spanish speaking people in south Florida. Most are not here legally.
@@diedonner299 I'm from Central Florida and not so much here. It's white ppl, black ppl moving from all over the country and coming here. Like paying way more than a house is worth just to live here making it where we cannot ever purchase a home of our own. It happened all around me within a year and not one Spanish family. Literally all white ppl from Michigan and Ohio and Kentucky. And most act as if they own everything. I kinda want out of here
@@realflorida211 same thing is happening in miami and tbh I don’t get it either. Overpay for the crowds traffic congestion heat humidity and bugs? It is not a win and who knows what Mother Nature has in her plans for south Florida. Probably nothing good.
No winter, bugs the size of dogs, sauna heat and steam room humidity, hurricanes, rising sea level seriously dangerous for a state that's basically a sand bar, living constantly in air conditioned rooms... I would chose any state to the north before Florida.
As a native Georgian, I’m delighted that most folks continue to Florida. 😊
You do realize how many have come to GA, right? It's misery in the suburbs
No , you take ‘em 😂 if only they loved Georgia more
@@GNMi79 the Atlanta area is so huge now in developed land that it is almost one hundred miles across from one end to the other. Atlanta is the fourth largest developed area in square miles in the world.
As a non-native Georgian, so am I. I'm just far enough away from Atlanta to be able to visit it, but far enough that it doesn't visit us (though it's knocking at the other end of the county from me).
Especially since our military and our government are doing horrible weather manipulations with Florida and Texas both. HAARP is evil and trying to destroy FL bc everyone is moving there, TX too
Florida can be broken up into South Georgia, Florida ,and Southern Brooklyn.
Lower Alabama, too for the panhandle.
Southern Brooklyn 😭
😂
That's true, Greg, but not quite as true as it was 50 years ago. South Brooklyn has become North Havana.
The Southern Bronx are surround Disney.
Florida has no state income tax, however that "benefit" is offset by the fact that auto insurance and home owners insurance are very expensive there due to high volumes of traffic and hurricanes. Florida also has a lack of good paying jobs.
I agree completely Just because there is alot of Sunshine doesnt necessarily mean we all want to move there. My daughter lives there loves it. But when I visit im sooo ready to get back to Charlotte. Everything is too high there the customer service is poor rated. Im a southern girl who smiles at people. 😊
You left out the growing toll road system! A huge tax
If you’re 65 or older you don’t pay state income tax in Georgia either. I sit here with a beautiful marsh, we can be on the inter coastal waterway in our boat in less than 20 minutes in our boat. We sit in our sunroom and watch a man on his boat pull up crab traps in the morning and watch the sun rise. It’s beautiful. Savannah is 10 miles north and Jekyll island or st Simon’s to the south. Low property taxes compared to other areas
Coastal Georgia ain’t too bad.. I’ve been to Brunswick, Georgia & I thought I was in Florida
Also forgot to mention the invention of AC in 1960s which help move more people into the Florida inland
And with NASA, and Disney building up some of the land. It was mostly swamp before, especially where Disney World is, that was all swamp which really helped build up Orlando.
The invention of AC in the 1960s 😂😂😂😂😂 seriously, Google before you post something like that.
Modern AC was invented in 1902
He never mentioned AC in the video? I am *so* glad I didn't actually watch it.
@@JRake32 Dude, he was wrong (*really* wrong) about when AC was invented, but it *was* in the 1960s that it became a standard thing to build into homes. It *was* AC that sparked the growth of Florida.
I moved out of Florida to Pennsylvania last February. Rent in Jackonville has become untenable after Covid. The fact that I'm paying less in the Northeast is insane to me lol
Yep you’re right! I live in Illinois now, even with the higher property taxes, I’m still paying less than I was living in Florida. I think within time, it’s going to get so expensive, that it will follow the same problems like California has. And many people will start to leave, because the middle class will be pushed out. And there will be nothing but rich and poor people there!
@@underground9260 Florida and California are similar to one another in many ways. Obviously, their geographies and climates are totally different, but in other aspects I think Florida is like California, only 30-40 years behind.
@@underground9260 Florida doesn’t cater to homeless people or drug addicts like Cali does so they are more likely to move than the middle class that own homes.
@@DDBurnett1 yeah you’re right. But it will eventually catch up. Regardless who controls the state, if a place becomes so expensive, it’s going to push out the middle class regardless
Yes the rent of the northeast without the salary! Florida has such low wages for how expensive its become.
As someone who lives in GA, I can tell you exactly why. We have all the unbearable heat and humidity of FL, but without all the nice coastal breezes. It really sucks here honestly, I hate it.
North Carolina is the same way, July and August are just about unbearable with the heat and humidity.
Most people don't live by coastal breeze here in Florida, and trust me, I lived in GA and living in FL. FL is by far is hotter and nastier than GA when it comes to heat and humidity. Of course, it's a blessing my condition.
It’s hotter longer in Florida Georgia is not near as bad as Florida
@@bobyjones3905 not really it's a constant breeze in majority of Florida , (year round ) which helps ALOT especially sitting underneath some good shade youd be in heaven while Ga only cools down in the winter time ..yall can have that ..they dont call Atlanta hotlanta for nun
Florida is just a swam full of bugs compare to Georgia. You can go to the beach and come back home. Tolls, bugs, people drive like crazy, hurricanes, high premium home insurance, low salaries, and you will get bored of the beach and Disney World once you live close by, you go less and less. Moving to Florida???? Thanks but no thanks!
The proliferation of air conditioning helped Florida grow in the 50s-70s. While it's true the heat is moderated by breezes, the Gulf and Atlantic, the humidity in Georgia can get worse, but the summers last longer in Florida. There are also more sunny days and less cold days. As a Florida native I never considered the sun's correlation with happiness until I lived somewhere else.
This guy is the master of clickbait. Basically just gives a history lesson and doesnt answer the question of the title.
Hello! Florida born, Georgia raised here. Another big factor I’ve seen living in both states is how local governments respond to growth. Florida will have roads and infrastructure built and ready before a population boom occurs. This is made easier by its relatively flat terrain, and also explains why the states road system is a large series of grids. Atlanta’s hillier terrain makes it harder to build like this, and in many areas local governments are much slower and unprepared to deal with population increases. Florida’s huge injection of tourism money also allows them to build even faster.
My guess is that the population will stagnate eventually but I could say that about the US as a whole in the next few decades
I agree with your assessment.
@@willp.8120 Except for I-4 around Orlando. It's been under construction for longer than we've lived in Florida, 27 years.
Yup. Hills and mountains slow stuff down
Where in FL are roads built quickly? They started building a road here back in 2017 probably and it's still not done 😅
I lived most of my life in Floriduh. I'm glad I left and I definitely don't miss it.
Florida definitely doesn't miss you either. Thanks for leaving!
@@Orlando_Steve offended?
@@DannieKamete Don't care. Just want the whiners out of here. Nobody is keeping them here and no one wants them here.
Just found your channel watching this video. Well done. I’m a new subscriber now. Love to-the-point educational useful videos like this.
As a native Georgian, I always thought the state relied too heavily on Atlanta. Hopefully cities such as Augusta and Savannah continue to grow and provide favorable opportunities to Georgians as well as those looking to relocate to the state.
I do wish there was a larger planned city in south Georgia.
I could see savannah growing but not Agusta, I can't imagine an event that would so heavily impact Atlanta that it would destroy the states economy. It'll be fine.
South Carolina has two metro area that almost a million people Greenville and Charleston. they will hit a million before 2030. Greenville set between Atlanta and Charlotte. And Charleston is on the Coast, I hope more get invested Savanah Savanah really should be larger and Georgia beach city. if Charleston is growing there reason Savanah can't.
@@draetone5602 Columbia has about 900 thousand.
@@GNMi79 through some kind of political shenanigans Savannah ended up with the money to dredge a deeper port that most people in the business expected to go to Jacksonville several years ago. Yet during the crush of imports from Covid backlogs Savanah wasn’t even operating at capacity while all the ports in Florida took up the burden, and were working 24/7 with all hands on deck. Something is wrong with the local government in Savanah. It is either too corrupt or too small town minded. IDK which.
@@marcwright4790 The answer is yes. It's not an either/or. It's possible to be corrupt and still successful. Look at NYC and Chicago.
I live in Georgia but just a few miles from Florida. Everyone moving to Florida instead of here is just fine with me.
Amen, Omelet.
Absolutely
🤔 I like Georgia better; it has 4 seasons and Florida only has 2, Georgia has mountains and Florida is all flat land, weather conditions are fairly tame in Georgia but Florida has hurricanes annually, the cost of living is more reasonable in Georgia than it is in Florida.
With that said, Florida is a great place to vacation but that's about it.
A lot of children growing up in Florida today because their parents moved there
will at some point in their lives have to move away from Florida
because of sea level rise, contamination of the water tabls by salt water,
more frequent and powerful hurricanes and/or unbearable heat.
For that matter - forget about the future -
already there are a lot of news stories about insurance companies
greatly increasing insurance rates for Florida homes
or simply abandoning Florida all together.
And at some point the rest of the country may get tired of seeing their taxes used
to provide emergency support for Florida residents who thought it would
be like living in paradise to have a nice home on low lying land
right next to the sea in a hurricane prone state.
You should do one on how Houston, Atlanta, and Dallas take in so many Louisiana transplants. There's a huge brain drain in Louisiana, and New Orleans was once the largest city in the South.
more like a huge crime drain 😂😂😂
@joeconsumer I'm from TX and jokes aside, I'd move to LA in a heartbeat if it ever got its act right. There's a such a strong bond between both states. And the Bayou culture that Houston and NOLA share between Beaumont, Lake Charles and Baton Rouge. It's a damn shame how little changes in the Boot to rival its sister cities.
How I thought Houston was the largest city in the south Atlanta Georgia has transplant of New Yorkers New Jersey and Bostonians running wild there it figures the traffic and drivers are terrible there everybody In Atlanta is pretty much a transplant
Houston has alot of Louisiana Translants especially after katrinia
@Gaurav Tapaskar All three of the cities I mentioned have their share of incoming migration. Georgia gets Eastcoasters, and Texas gets Westcoasters. But Louisiana, in particular, loses population to those three metros the most. I know a ton of LSU grads, and I'd wager 40% of them leave the state. Engineers are probably even at a higher rate.
You'll see as many Saints and LSU flags in parts of Texas as you see the local teams. New Orleans is the midway point between Texas and Georgia, so naturally, both booming states take in the majority of Louisiana migration.
There was a RUclips video that went a little viral a few years ago outlining why Louisiana stopped competing for industry compared to its neighbors. The fact that New Orleans was once THE major economic power house in the South says a lot for how big of a decline it has seen. Shreveport is essentially Dallas at this point. Lake Charles economy depends on Texas money for their Casinos.
Savannah needs to return as a major cities in GA.. it's a port city next to a river and has pretty damn good weather. I love Atlanta but Atlanta lacks that huge waterbody that a big city needs
Someone loves Atlanta?!
Too country
Big cities don’t need big bodies of water. Look at El Paso, Dallas, Ft. Worth, San Antonio, Austin, Memphis, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Indianápolis, Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Charlotte, Oklahoma City, Albuquerque. And yeah Altlanta lol
@@piglet7943
The Mississippi River doesn't qualify as a big body of water in your mind?
@@jshepard152 no sir/ma’am. It’s a river.
Strange as it may seem I learn as much on you-tube videos from the comments section as the video itself sometimes.
I live in the Athens Georgia area. I like the change in seasons that FL really doesn't have, yet not much snow or ice compared to further north.. Atlanta, the mountains or the beach are not far. Traffic is not bad. Hurricanes will be thunderstroms when they hit us, therefore I can afford my home owners insurance.
I just moved to Georgia from Texas. Turns out I really like hills and trees.
Yeah, beaches are overrated and not everybody can live there.
The Appalachian mountains and hilly terrain of the Piedmont are gorgeous.
@@greenbrown7776 Facts.
I moved to Ga from Michigan and fell in love with the hills.
@@georgia777 / I am a frequent critic of my state (usually for good reason, not because I'm super sour). But I concur heartily on the hills and the trees and the scenery. Natural scenery in central Georgia, Piedmont and mountains (as well as the coast) are so nice.
I live in Florida and everybody from different states move there my dad told me that eldery people move to Florida to escape the winter of the north
Been that way for a long time. The influx of Boomers was totally foreseeable.
My grandparents in Canada would go to Florida in the winter. They had a trailer in a seniors area so they didn't have to worry about anything beyond the gates, and it was mostly a seasonal, community. I remember going to visit as visits were allowed, and watching a bunch of birds as their lot was up on the edge by the fence, and I could see the open area outside the community. It certainly seems common that people will have temporary places too, especially from Canada and norther USA because the snow can be overwhelming at times.
People from the north like Florida due it being warmer
@@ramencurry6672 and the older you get, the harder the cold hits you. My brother, who recently turned 64, used to love winter in upstate NY. He cross-country skied and snowshoed, and eagerly awaited weather forecasts of snow. Now, his body has a very hard time with it. He’s never had a snowblower, and the decades of shoveling lots of snow are starting to really affect his body. I think, say 100 years ago, there weren’t too many old people in the snowy Northeast because people didn’t live as long. Some people’s bodies just can’t take the cold - like mine! Give me 100 degrees and 95% humidity any day.
@@birbluv9595 Interestingly I read a comment from a guy from Texas who couldn’t stand the Texas heat anymore and plans to move the Pittsburgh area for cooler weather which would be the opposite
Coastline, no state income tax, business friendly, high tourism, several large cities.
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As a native Georgian ill say there's already too many folks moving here. And Florida has faced that problem for a while now too. It's part of the reason we see Florida man in the news as often as we do.
I don’t see anyone mentioning no income tax in Florida.
You are right: Florida has no state income tax where Georgia does have a state income tax. Besides, a state income tax in Florida is prohibited thanks to a clause in the Constitution of the State of Florida.
@@EdwardRingwald anything you save is eaten up by other taxes and insurance costs in FL
States with no income tax ALWAYS find other ways to sting you
The no state income tax gets made up with the cost of living.
@@EdwardRingwald My household income taxes in Georgia were a whopping $600ish last year, on a six figure household income. It's not that big a deal unless you're making sports athlete money.
I have lived in North Georgia since 1958 on the Tennessee state line Tennessee is also growing. What was not mentioned was the housing cost. Many senior people have found that they can sell their 8 to 9ook homes in the north and purchase a new home here in Georgia and Tennessee and about a third of the cost have a new home, while still having the same size or even larger. T Then place that 500k difference into their retirement
I’m a fifth-generation Floridian and let me tell you, it’s hot as hell here. My little town just broke a heat record for today. It was “only” 94 but the humidity index or “feels like” temp was 108. We’re trapped in our houses like a Northerner would be during a snow storm. I love the sunshine but would sure like to move to Georgia just to cool down a tiny bit.
You're not a real Floridian if you can't take the heat.
@@thedirtybubble9613 Is that so? Thanks for the info.
A higher population or larger metropolitan areas doesn’t always equate to a higher standard of living. Many people in Georgia try to get further away from Atlanta rather than closer to it.
There are really four Atlantas. The first covers the most area, though the fourth area covers a significant amount, too.
1. White, mostly Republican Atlanta (East Cobb, Northwest unincorporated Cobb, Roswell, Milton, Cumming, Hickory Flat, Woodstock, Holly Springs, Canton, Kennesaw, Acworth, Western Alpharetta, Buford, Sugar Hill, Dacula, Dallas, South Paulding, Loganville, Barrow County, Jackson County, Peachtree City, Sharpsburg, Newnan)
2. Then there is the politically moderate to liberal mostly white Atlanta (Druid Hills, North Druid Hills, North Decatur, Decatur city, Avondale Estates, Oak Grove, Brookhaven, Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, Buckhead, Vinings, Lavista Hills, Atlanta in town neighborhoods like Virginia-Highland, Poncey-Highland, Inman Park, Grant Park, Ormewood Park, East Atlanta, Midtown, Alpharetta).
3. Then there is mostly nonwhite or racially mixed, heavily immigrant populated Atlanta (Chamblee, Doraville, Norcross, northern Lilburn, Duluth, Suwanee, Lawrenceville, Forest Park, Smyrna, Marietta, Clarkston, Mableton
4. Then there is majority black or plurality black Atlanta (South Fulton, Union City, Fairburn, South Dekalb, Stonecrest, Conyers, Covington, Douglasville, Lithia Springs, Powder Springs, Austell, Stockbridge, McDonough, Riverdale, College Park, East Point, Western city limits of Atlanta, southern city limits of Atlanta).
It is possible for a person to be insulated from the other areas if they do desire.
@@willp.8120 Very well stated sir. And no disrespect to anyone but my favorite view of any part of Atlanta is with it disappearing in my rear view mirror.
@@willp.8120you’re spot on but I’d put Roswell with 3 and Alpharetta with 2
@@omarrolle3842 I did put Alpharetta with 2, but western Alpharetta I listed as one because it is whiter and Republican. Basically the Crabapple area east to highway 9.
Roswell is majority white, especially out highway 92 west of highway 9 and western Roswell. The amount of land taken up by west Roswell is a majority of the city and it is affluent, Republican, and white. It is a place where kids play lacrosse and ice hockey. Older Towne Roswell is white, too. As a whole Roswell would be in one, but the area between highway 9 and Georgia 400 does have a lot of Mexican and central American illegals (who should be quickly deported) and that area could be placed in 3. East Roswell east of 400 I'd place with 2.
@@willp.8120 Moved from NY/NJ(18 months ago)I was a little surprised to see my town Dacula on the first list because there is a lot of diversity here in this small town although still majority white(more so probably 5- 10 years ago)It’s weird because the local middle and HS are majority-minority(myriad of reasons for that I suppose)Im a retired African American and I love my town. Diversity rules and Im not trying to get away from anyone and I’m comfortable here. Pretty accurate list though!
I lived in Orlando for 20 years it was beautiful, you could leave your car unlocked, didnt have to worry about some stealing your stuff until about 2017, it seems like there was a northern take over. I left of course settled in a small town on a mountain in Pennsylvania away from everyone 😅😂
It's funny... I did the opposite. I lived in a small town on a mountain in Pennsylvania (Jim Thorpe) for about 20 years. Now I live in Orlando.
@@thatguyrich9822 lmao i live in dunmore right next to scranton
you two just made me laugh, both moving for similar reasons to opposite places? what? lol
@@niavellir7408 I moved because my wife wanted to live in warmer climates.
Florida is relatively dangerous alligators, panthers and pythons are known to wonder into neighborhoods and communities.
Since record keeping began, some 80 years.....
Number of people killed by alligators - 26
Number of people killed by panthers - 0
Number of people killed by pythons - 0
Yep, real dangerous. -_-
@@elevenb6967 Source.
@@PizzaBeer-op2fq
Orlando Sentinel.
But honestly, you do know that Google exists, right? You literally could have ascertained that info with just a few keystrokes. -_-
@elevenb6967 You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on YOU not me.
@@PizzaBeer-op2fq
That's literally the most asinine thing I've read in the HISTORY of the RUclips comments section. Especially with so much information at our fingertips, if somebody comes up with a figure that is questionable to me, I'm off to Google to find out whether, or not the information was correct.
You coming up with this 'burden of proof' crap is ridiculous. But, what's even MORE ironic, is the fact that YOU originally said that Florida was dangerous, coming up with animals that 'wander' into neighborhoods.
So whose 'claim' was made first?
Do you even live in Florida? LOL!
Both my 2 favorite states. Lived in Georgia from 1988-2012, and have lived in Florida since. Reasons to love both. I’ll keep it simple. Georgia’s Golden Islands are peaceful islands and places to go to the beach, and Florida in general has more beaches. I love the mountains of Georgia.
They are my two favors states too! I’m a native Floridian and still a Florida resident, and I have a lot of family ties to both Florida as Georgia so I’ve spent a lot of time and travel in both states.
I moved to the Tampa Bay Area in 2016 and the growth since then is wild, population and infrastructure wise. Also the cost of living went up real quick. Back in 2016 I would pay around $600 for a studio apartment, now it is twice as much. But after living in Wisconsin for 5 years I wouldn't change it for anything 🙌
Tampa is only $1,200-ish for a studio? Thats cheap, if you go southward expect $2k and up lol.
Tampa Bay is real nice!
Tampa is a strip mall hell hole with zero culture
Tampa Bay area has been growing as long as I can remember and I'm 47.
Sounds like you're part of the problem. Just another yankee transplant.
Weird comparison. Florida is historically and culturally very different from the rest of the South. Its ecology, climate, fauna, geography, etc make this state its own distinct region of the country. It’s like asking “why did California out grow Oregon”. A better question would be “why did North Carolina outgrow Virginia” or “Why did Georgia outgrow Alabama and South Carolina” These states all share a similar history and culture. North Carolina was actually seen as the poorer state compared to SC and VA yet it outgrew both of them.
Very true.
Nice take. Appreciated from a Georgian lol.
@BB: Yours is the best comment here. So, so true.
Well, North F;orida...
That is not true South Carolina is the worst state to live compared to North Carolina.
People move to Florida thinking it’s a tropical paradise and find out it’s a sticky buggy swamp.
I think one key factor people forget about Florida's boom is with the advent of air conditions. I believe the first public building to get air condition in Tampa was in 1926. Once air conditioning became a more common place household item, Florida goes from being largely agricultural and seasonal living to what we see today. All that mixed with the other key factors of multi-city economies like you mention and 800+ miles of coastline like others have mentioned, generally make the state a more attractive option.
We had two recent governors who understood what they people needed.
Unaffordability is already an issue in those Florida metropolitan areas compared to GA overall. Specially insurances (if you can find one), taxes, HOAs, real estate, and much more. I prefer GA after living in Miami for 15+ years; you gotta live there for a while to really understand the pain.
Miami is really expensive.
Lived in MAIMI for 34 years I had it …… we when country to GA and I am loving it 🇺🇸😜
Florida has also been made popular due to movie, TV series and Disney, as an someone living outside the USA the state that come to mind are newyork, California, Texas and Florida,
as a german I can confirm
@@EazzyZer0 Florida is the best!
@@marknewton6984 no lol
@@kevvilla6356 Move to Germany. You won't.
No way.
As a native Floridian, I say that we’re full up. Seat taken.
As someone who lives in Lakeland. It's in between Tampa and Orlando. I also work in the construction field. We have a lot of housing that's been booming in the last few years.
Excellent job! Keep em coming.
drove a load of my dad's stuff from michigan down to central florida last fall, and it was the first time i had been to either georgia _or_ florida...the difference between the states was striking; georgia is mostly just empty pine flats, with a few sleepy little towns scattered-about, while florida is BUSTLING.
Depending on the road you take you can rarely leave an urban area.
Georgia is mostly deciduous trees from Atlanta northward. There do tend to be pines growing in significant numbers amongst the Interstate.
Georgia has over a million more people than Michigan, and the Atlanta area has close to two million more people than Detroit. Metro Atlanta has more people than any of the Florida metropolitan areas.
And, to be honest, Florida smells, is too flat, has a far higher percentage of pine trees than Georgia, excepted around the Ocala and little hills area northwest of Orlando. Try driving the turnpike south of Kissimmee, nothing but pine forests and orange groves, for the most part. It seems like you never even took I-75 through Georgia, for if you had you wouldn't say sleepy little towns, as Atlanta is on that route and literally makes all of the Florida metropolitan areas look small.
@@willp.8120 the Miami metro area has over a hundred thousand more than the Atlanta metro area? There is also two other significant cities, Tampa and Orlando, which are beginning to merge into another large area but more separated than the Miami or Atlanta areas are and they are vastly larger. Not to mention the other various large areas that exist.
@@willp.8120 lol, it totally did stink...my parents' water smells like straight-up sulfur. i saw a pickup truck full of illegal immigrants driving down the road drinking beers, and that didn't leave a great impression either. florida had lots of beautiful black women though, so that was a very notable positive, imo.
"Florida is a land of swamps of quagmire, of frogs and alligators and mosquitoes! No man would immigrate into Florida no, not from hell itself" - US Representative John Randolph of Virginia, speaking in 1821 against the US acquiring Florida from Spain
And until air conditioning was invented, no one did move there. Lol
Also FL has 7 major pop cities and is about 90 miles wide past the pan handle so you can go to either coast if you live inland under an hour.
I don't know how people live in hot places like Florida and Georgia. Sure, there's air conditioning, but I don't want to spend the summer indoors. It's easy to stay warm or warm up, but so, so, so, so hard to cool down.
Wake up early , play tennis or boating from 7:30-11am, stay inside during the afternoon, then outside again after 4 pm.
I just go in the Gulf or hang on the boat. You get used to it.
I agree with you. You feel like you're in a meat freezer during the day with the AC, and if you go outside for a few minutes, you can't last long because of the high heat and humidity. It also doesn't cool down that much at night, and you have to sleep on top of the covers....can't even cover with just a sheet because it's too darn hot and humid with the AC off....unless you can afford to run in 24 / 7. It's like this from May through October. NO thanks.
Georgia from the fall line northward isn't all that hot. Once you get to around Atlanta it is quite pleasant. In July and August you'll have maybe four or five hours where it is a bit intense, but the rain usually cools things down to where it doesn't last that long.
@@info781 In Georgia it is usually pleasant up till 1 pm. Hot from 2-6 pm, and if it rains, as it generally does, it becomes cooler, dropping down into the 70d and 80s. This is primarily a late June to early September weather.
People get lured by no Florida income tax, but Florida makes up for it and then some with property taxes, sales and use tax, and homeowners insurance. If fact, insurance rates for homeowners has quadrupled over the last several years. Many home owners in South Florida have trouble even finding insurance providers. That and the general trend of increasingly poor education might mean that Florida's growth spurt is just about over.
I can definitely see FL plateauing now
Wrong! Our family was spending over $800 a month alone in state income tax living up north. By moving to Florida it saves this amount. And home owners insurance definitely has NOT gone up that much per month. Not property taxes. It’s less actually for a more expensive house than our prior state. 😂 try again.!
@@jasonknight5863 Where in FL?
@@jasonknight5863 I just went and looked it up again and you are truly full of it. First, you are now also mandated to buy flood insurance in addition to home owners insurance...statewide. 14 insurers left the FL market this year. Your rate might not have renewed yet, but when it does...I can promise you it is going up...way up. Florida insurers got killed this last hurricane season, and it's not just the coast that has damage. You might want to look into all that so you don't get caught off guard.
@@scpatl4now well thank you for the heads up. But we bought a large Home in a great area with actually a lot of hills in the Orlando area. We never get flooded ever. It’s just the poorer areas that are located in flood prone areas that do that make the news. Then everyone things oh florida gets flooded 😂
I could care less if I have to buy flood insurance if we are made to. We are saving so much money per month NOT paying the state income taxes we did in up north as most states had that. Only 5 or so state are not. As a high income household it adds up. We calculated for the 16 years or so we lived up north paying state income taxes we could have bought a $350,000 or so house in cash down here for all we wasted doing that. Anyhow you live and learn. I could care less if the jack it up a little the home owners insurance. We drive a Maserati, Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette, Volvo. And a few other cars also. So couldn’t care less really. The lifestyle down here is Priceless. I can go out to our garden and pick a selection of fruits that we couldn’t grow up north. And get 260 plus days on average of complete sunshine ☀️ days per year. So we are in heaven. I wouldn’t even want to go near those cities that connect where we used to live we are that sick of that place. So not full of it. For what reason would I lie? To impress a complete stranger ? 😆
We picked Florida for the weather Atlanta is still chilly in the winter. Our winter in Florida is about 2 weeks.
I am from Illinois. Couple of years ago we began to look for a vacation house close to the ocean and a place for our future retirement. Florida was out of question: too expensive , too hot, too "wild "weather. We ended up buying a house in Mobile, Alabama! Cheap real estate, wonderful food, great beaches, unbelievable nature, close to the most popular travel destinations ( New Orleans, Pensacola, Golf Shore, Orange Beach, Destin...) , much better weather. We are very happy with our decision!
Great, another yankee I've got to deal with.
fun fact the Mardi Gras actually started in Mobile but the 1 in New Orleans became more popular
I retired in 2014 and moved to WY.
Too cold and isolated.
Moved to Napa in 2021 to recover from WY.
Moved to Destin FL in 2022 as retirement attempt number 2 .
Guess I moved to the incorrect part of FL.
Now on to attempt number 3, Tokyo Japan.
I lived in Fort Walton Beach a short drive from Destin. The area was filled with retired military. Why? Because in the careers they'd lived a lot of places and concluded the Florida panhandle was best. The winters are mild but just cold enough to keep down the population of bugs and exotic tropical animals that make South Florida such a nuisance.
And as for Tokyo, I have a friend there. Housing is not only hideously expensive, moving in includes a lot of fees that don't exist here. If you go, go with a lot of money.
@@Inkling777
The Panhandle should be given to Alabama.
Wife and I both military retired. We thought FL would be ok, but nothing that we like to do is anywhere close.
We had more to do in WY (because Colorado).
Plus we are not rednecks or drive squatted trucks, so definitely way out of place here.
We have lived in 8 states and 6 countries, but never Japan.
So we are moving there, hopefully for ever.
@@Dangic23 I may be assuming too much but I feel like you had a similar problem to me when living in FL: There's nothing to really do outside. Furthermore, no one does anything outside. Everyone says "The weather is better here" and then precedes to spend time indoors. Or they go from indoors directly to their climate controlled car to another climate controlled place.
I experienced this in ATL as well but not to the same degree because the mountains were close by and people would go outside for that. As far as lifestyle goes I've had a better time in northern states like Maine, WV, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin than I have in the southeast. You could do things outside your house and there was a lot close by. You'd also see other people outside instead of feeling out of place walking outside.
Bud if you couldn't hack it in Wyoming, California, or Florida, Tokyo is not going to do it for you. Unless you're actually Japanese. Plus it's literally one of the most expensive places on earth to live.
@@nothanks3236 He sounds like someone who will be miserable wherever he goes. Some folks are just like that.
This guy has a talent for avoiding the elephant in the room!
Stacy Abrams
What might that be?
@@willp.8120 DeSantis, who seems to hate business and free speech and a lot of other things
@@TheGryfonclaw I think Desantis and Trump are all pre-selected NWO candidates that they are trying to get those of us on the right to select. Essentially, I'm sure that both are freemasons.
Although I vote Republican, I'll probably not vote for the president in the next election is they both are on the ballot. I hope a lot of Democrats won't vote for Biden, either.
@@jimdep6542 she wasn't elected though
Great video. Can you let us know how you create your maps or maybe do a short tutorial? They are awesome.
I just moved from Florida to Georgia. There were just too many people. It was too expensive. Florida Insurance keeps going up. Electric keeps going up. Food. My trash pick up doubled for once a week. The heat. Just everything. And there are not enough good jobs and good people and no one wants to pay enough to live there.
I was born and raised there. 29 plus years. I was too good and too nice for Florida, as was my mom. We moved and are not going back ever.
Both of us hardly ever felt welcome in FL.
We are much happyier in Georgia and have better jobs.
PS. Great video.
Trying to move there as well. Native Floridian and post Covid the state became another borough of New York. Feels like almost everyone is from there or the Midwest now with barely any actual Floridians
@@CruxisAngel954 remember its all about whom you hire as a realtor. with experience. alot of it. 10 years plus. With a team. And I 100% agree.
All coastline and A/C. I’m a south Floridian and the beginning statement of the more south, you go the more north the culture becomes is so right it’s funny.
“The more south you go the more “north” the culture becomes, yeah no. Like what does that even mean 😂, people just be talking out of their necks.
I live in Savannah, Georgia, and we are growing leaps and bounds. Our port is the second largest on the east coast…. our city is in the process of building a new Hyundai plant for electric cars and Gulf Stream dominates this area with over 11,000 local employees….. The suburb I live in Richmond Hill has a new community going in with over 10,000 homes…… waterways is the name of the community and many of the homes are connected via canals in small boats. It’s absolutely fascinating and a beautiful area to live in……. Rich with history …all that being said, I’m glad many people continue further south to Florida.
You're not a Georgian. Bryan County which is Pembroke where Hyundai is building that plant is not Savannah. Go back where you come from
Despite the population difference GA is still growing rapidly. I live about 30 minutes south of Downtown ATL and its apartment complexes and Townhomes popping up everywhere.
Florida has also mostly become corporate owned housing along the shorelines. Resorts, condo high-rises, vacation destinations, entertainment resorts, and FOREIGNERS. NOBODY in Miami speaks an English accent,
I live in Georgia and have a lot of family who’ve lived in Florida for 30 years.
It boils down to 3 things. Income taxes, weather, coastline.
That’s it. Florida has always attracted retirees because there’s no income tax, the weather is much different (warmer) in the winter, and Florida has coastline around most of the state.
Thank you for acknowledging the settlement of Pensacola before Saint Augustine. I speak for all Pensacolians when I say this is something we’re proud of and it is always overlooked by history RUclips channels.
I did not know that. I knew Ft. Caroline was settled before St. Augustine, but I didn't know about Pensacola. Was it in the video?
@@BS-vx8dg yes
I knew that, I was stationed in Florida (Air Force, Eglin AFB) in the early 90s and studied it’s rich and amazing history.
Florida is the most beautiful state I’ve ever visited!!!
Correct. I've been going to pcola since the 80s.
Thank you for getting Saint Augustine right. Most people just say it's the oldest city in the United States. Great breakdown of the two states's growth. Air conditioning is a major factor too, as others have commented. Which was in part developed by a Floridian. Thank you, Dr. John Gorrie. Visit his home town of Apalachicala and see the museum and get some great views and seafood.
As someone who has lived in the savannah area for over 20 years, it is definitely the concentration of power in Atlanta that feels most oppressive here. I feel there are so few opportunities in the Coastal Empire.
Thanks for this video. I thought I knew a lot about Georgia and Florida history, but you covered lots of ground I hadn't heard before, especially the early history.
There was a big boom in Florida in the 1960s with the space program in Cape Canaveral. That brought my family down to Florida--great memories, although my mother missed the change of seasons and didn't dig the hurricanes. Then Disney World opened, and Orlando became a boom town.
One comparison that always interested me is Atlanta GA and Birmingham AL. In 1950, the population of these cities was about the same, around 330k. Over the decades that followed, Atlanta pulled ahead in population and economic growth. The usual explanation is that Atlanta Mayor Ivan Allen was a big promoter of the "city too busy to hate," which drew businesses and workers to the region for the opportunities and friendly vibe. Although Georgia hasn't grown as fast as Florida, it's had healthy growth.
It will be interesting to see if Florida continues to surge ahead of Georgia. Property insurance is getting expensive in Florida, which might dampen growth. I suppose the snow birds will continue to flock there no matter what. Georgia is bringing in manufacturing jobs with auto assembly and (soon) battery manufacturing for EV cars. It will be fun to watch.
I'm an Atlantan and went to Orlando last week and it was great. I've always traveled there but never been to Miami yet.
The future is bright for both states for different reasons, but many people prefer a moderate climate.
I’m up in the north Georgia Atlanta area, I love Georgia. I got lots of family down in Florida, places like, Daytona, Sarasota, and Pensacola. I love Florida almost as much as Georgia. Both states are moving and booming.
@@mcgodg7591 Florida isn't my kind of place. It is too hot, it smells, and is totally different than the northern half of Georgia where about 80 percent of the states population resides. Georgia is more like North Carolina. Both the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alabama I feel most comfortable in.
I’m impressed he went 10 minutes talking about Florida without mentioning the Mouse
As far as a second "big" city for Georgia. I would not be suprised if metro Savannah experienced explosive growth in the next few decades. It has a lot of the attributes as a city in Florida without some of the drawbacks. Plus it is similar but different than its slightly bigger cousin Charleston, SC. And if you include the Hilton Head SC area, the greater Savannah area is already almost at 1 million in population. Plus for folks moving to Georgia it is an alternative to my adopted hometown of Atlanta. But the projection over the next 20 years is that GA will grow to between 15 to 17 million people, while FL will grow to about 34 million. Continued explosive growth for both states. But most of the GA growth will be in Metro Atlanta to reach around 10 million people, with some growth also on the GA coast and the Augusta area. While FL's growth will be much more spread out. Miami will be slow to grow during this period and almost stagnate not because there won't be a desire to live there. It's because greater Miami is literally running out of space to expand. The other big Florida cities of Tampa/St Pete, Orlando, and Jacksonville will grow. Along with SW FL and the coastal Panhandle cities.
I've heard there are a lot of building restrictions in Savannah
tottaly agree, the only area to develop in Miami-Dade county before you reach the Everglades is the south eastern part of the county surrounding Homestead, and while Broward and Palm Beach still have some room to grow, I suspect the Metro will eventually expand northward to Port St.Lucie.
@@mosinc7388 that's the city proper. But the suburbs and surrounding areas are different.
@@relaxedleisure4766 yeah I think that development will creep up the East Coast of Florida from the Miami metro to probably the Cocoa Beach Cape Canaveral area. But at some point it will cease being metro Miami.
Savannah is very conservative when it comes to growth bc of the wildlife and land protections. I love to visit there, but they are SERIOUS about conservation.
I loved living in the keys in the 70s with no air-conditioning, it was shabby ,rundown & extremely beautiful & uncrowded
You missed talking about how the modern invention of the air conditioner influenced many to move to Florida, as well as air travel and the interstate making it easier to visit relatives in more northern states
Another great point.
Controlled artificial climate machines have made once hot and humid areas very tolerable.
When I was living in Schenectady, NY, we had a really harsh winter in the mid 20-teens. I was in book clubs and other groups with a lot of older people, and it amazed me how many put their houses on the market that spring and moved to warmer places, mostly Florida. I also participate in several Disney World Facebook groups, where every week or so a young person will post that they are moving to Orlando to be close to Disney World. I’m not keen on the extreme density of housing in Florida now and the pressure that is putting on natural resources. But I’ve been told by a dermatologist where I live now (southeast Virginia, near Virginia Beach) that I should have moved to Florida for the truly subtropical climate it offers. We had a very cold Christmas here and my painful skin problems (caused by frostbite 60 years ago) came right back and lingered for months.
Sorry about your skin problems. My brother moved his family to Florida after he retired. He swears the sea air helps his sinuses.
Florida is getting way too hot. You’re better off in Virginia.
@@EllieM_Travels thank you!
Sorry to hear that
Florida has a potential threat that comes with all that sunshine. I moved to Florida from Michigan 15 years ago. Skin cancer is a serious problem for me and I must endure constant treatment to halt precancerous legions. Every solution comes with a new problem.
I will say with the two car plant’s coming and LG/ Hyundai battery plant coming the growth in my area is UNREAL… from the highways to the actual building of businesses/homes… Savannah is growing FAST with ports growth also I mean riding up I-16 which is a rural with growth on just about every other exit is mind blowing…
Totally agree with your assessment. Savannah, Pooler, Richmond Hill areas are growing fast along with Dublin, Jeffersonville on 16 towards Macon.
Georgia's economy is diversified and prepped for the future. Florida has always been a gamble with weather and it's odd that they're shunning the Mouse who brought real development to the state. It's going to be an interesting next 30 years.
Georgia has a VERY diverse economy and not just in the Atlanta metro area. All over the state. As I posted before, we cannot forget Georgia’s largest economy: agriculture. We need it more than we give it credit for.
@@mwplaisanceI wish people really knew more about agriculture in Georgia. I’ve been in Georgia all my life but if I was moving from somewhere else I would probably move to Alabama or maybe the Carolinas or Tennessee. Atlanta is crowded and more are moving there.
There’s actually a little truth to the fountain of youth, there is a spring, warm mineral springs near fort Myers which after staying or bathing in it for a while you get some health benefits, not major changes to your body but it makes it a little better
Augusta and Savannah also have respectable metro areas. Both are expanding and growing rapidly.
Hi Geoff. I'm a TA at the University of Florida for the "Geography of Florida" course. A few things to clear up here. First, the saying is "the further north you go, the deeper into The South you get" (this saying is understood to be applicable to the confines of Florida). No one says "the farther south you go, the more north, culturally, you are." I've never heard the expression phrased that way, anyway, and I don't think considering myself an authority figure on this matter is out of line. That's a super, super minor quibble though-- you essentially communicated the essence of the phrase. The actual phrase is just a bit more eloquent. That's all.
Here's the main thing you missed: air conditioning. It's a far bigger factor in Florida's growth than anything else you mentioned. Look at Florida's growth and compare it to the introduction of AC. I have no idea why this simple, straightforward fact gets overlooked by so many people who make these history of Florida videos. Every academic knows that climate control was the number one ingredient that made FL's explosive growth possible-- every other positive you mentioned (sunshine, lax taxation, etc) was also true before air conditioning. None of it mattered until Florida's hot, sticky weather could be tamed.
Agree, Geoff. Just one thing: AC was introduced at essentially the same time throughout the South and Southwest. Yet Florida experienced much higher growth rates earlier, and has sustained them, compared to the rest of the South. What other factors made a difference, in your opinion? I think the sunshine, beaches, warm winters, and no state income tax.
Congratulations on your academic achievements at UF!
I'm sure Savannah could try to grow and maybe rail service would boost Macon a bit-but probably more of a blue collar hub like Detroit
I'd like to see more passenger rail service everywhere in the states.
Savannah and Macon are irrelevant. Atlanta and Augusta are the only important cities
Savannah is going to grow fast with the development of the Hyundai EV factory and LG battery plant. The Low Country in SC is still growing faster.
Savannah definitely is growing fast. The Port is one of the biggest on the East coast. New EV car plant is under construction. The bedroom towns of Pooler and Richmond Hill have grown tremendously. You can barely buy a house in the good part of town for less than 500K.
I’m hoping to see Savannah grow more. I’m halfway between Savannah and Jacksonville so I’m hoping Savannah will keep spreading as our city grows.
I live in SE Georgia 30 miles from the Florida line. Orlando is only 3 hrs from my house and Atlanta is 5.5 hrs. Jacksonville is only 1 hr away. Needless to say we go to Florida a few times a month for shopping and dinning.
I almost took a job in Jacksonville. Beautiful city but lacking culture that is not based on tourism. I couldn't eat at a restaurant cause of tourists! It was wild.
You'll see that in pretty much every coastal city. Tourism is the lifeblood for most of them, so they have to deal with the tourist mentality, but it's not for me either. You know the old saying, "Nice place to visit..."
JAX isn't a tourist town. The Jacksonville beaches get tourists, but aside from events downtown music, sports, NFL games, etc. it isn't a tourist mecca. It's a working city with big tech, transportation, and finance economic components. Unless they are lost, you aren't likely to see a tourist in the neighborhoods west of the Intercoastal.
I live in Georgia (Clayton) for 12 years now and I never been to florida. I know its really hot down there. Here in Georgia, we have spring, proper hot summer, and its get cold between october and december. We get basically get a variety of temperature.
I moved from the north to central Florida 19 years ago with my job. The tiny town i live in out on a barrier island is mostly northerners. It made the culture shock less intense.
🤦🏽♂️ Florida has too many alligators, hurricanes and a sinkhole issue which is particularly concerning since you can't get home insurance in the Sunshine State.
Any perception that there home insurance available in Florida is a mistake on your part.
@@AllenGraetz What are you talking about?
You can get it. Florida has it's own State insurance company.
I own 8 homes in Florida (rentals) and the average insurance premium is $ 1250.00
Yet more people from Florida are moving to Geotgia, than people from Georgia moving to Florida.
Another reason why if I leave Florida I will not go to Georgia. I will go further north.
@@thedirtybubble9613 Alabama, Louisiana, or Mississippi aren't seeing a whole lot of growth and neither is Kentucky or West Virginia.
However, the Carolinas have exploded with growth. The trek down I-85 between the Raleigh-Durham area and Atlanta is quickly becoming a megalopolis. The area between Greenville and Spartanburg is now practically one city, for all intensive purposes. They've basically grown together. The Atlanta area now sprawls outward with suburban development about fifty miles from downtown Atlanta to mile marker 136 or so, only about 43 miles from the South Carolina state line. Back in the 90s, development ended at Old Peachtree Road or so, around mile marker 109, 27 miles closer to Atlanta.
I-85 is probably the most congested freeway in the Southeast for the longest distance, though I-95 in Florida and I-4 is also quite congested.
I don't know about that... Florida has 5 counties where people moved from Georgia more than any other state; including nearly all of the Jacksonville metro area
@@overbanked I am talking about the state as a whole. It makes sense why Duval would be such as it is a major city near Georgia and people from rural southeast Georgia move there for jobs.
@Will P. I'm talking about the whole state as well. The 5 FL counties I said are just where GA is the number 1 moved to locations. God knows how many counties in FL where GA is the number 2 moved from state, which is still significant. Historically GA has been the number 2 moved from location overall (to FL), with NY being number 1.
A lot of seasides, we all know that almost everyone dreams about living as close to the seaside as possible, longer shore makes it more feasible.
More room for those who prefer the wooded areas.
These kind of geographical history videos are a great idea. Not just informative and interesting, but useful when I'm considering where I might move next for the longer term. Great job!
I moved to florida 20 yrs ago.
Happy until recently prices too high. Traffic. Totally unprepared for fast hurricane. No way to leave.
Bro I live in Georgia right now, I moved from Florida bc of the safety, it’s trash, not much people live in Georgia and it’s very safe, that’s why we moved, I still miss my friends tho :c
I never thought about GA is so different than FL but are neighbors. Good insight.
I'm assuming you don't live in the south? I live in Georgia but am originally from Florida. They're as different as night and day.
South ga is very similar to North Fl
@@SR-iy4gg Georgia's peer is North Carolina.
It's very different. Culture, architecture, attitudes, values. To many Floridians, people from GA are northerners with a southern accent.
I think one of the main reasons is that most of Florida doesn't freeze. It does get below freezing in the Jacksonville area and I have seen puddles freeze there. I was stationed in Key west in the navy and it was pretty nice there. I'm 76 now and have trouble handling the cold here in Maine, so I bet a lot of elderly people move to Florida to get away from it.
Iguanas and pythons love Florida!
I’m really glad you did Florida and Georgia together. Although these 2 states are different they are like brother and sister for many reasons.
Last year when I moved away from my home state and had previously researched where to live, toward the top of my list of desirable factors was no state income tax. Weather was a factor, of course, but economics played a somewhat more significant role. I ended up in Texas.
Since I grew up in both states I’d say -same difference but Florida has nicer beaches with no oil slicks or tarballs!!!🤔🙏🏻
🤮🤮 I'm sure your paying in other ways 😂
Congrats. You don't have a state tax. But the cost of everything else will vastly more than make up for no state tax. I realize most people coming here can't see that obvious fact though. Simple math. I know it's difficult.