ᑖᒻ ᔅᑳᑦ and ᖃᓂᐅᔮᖅᐸᐃᑦ
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
- Inuktitut syllabics are brilliant. A writing system that's not an alphabet, but something really clever: an abugida, one designed from scratch for a language very unlike anything European. [Pull down the description!]
Context and history:
www.noslangues...
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I'm here because of Chris Hadfield's Generator Arctic - go check out everyone else who was on the trip, and have a look at tickets for their show at Massey Hall, Toronto, on November 12th! generatorevent.com
Thanks to Kataisee Attagutsiak (ᑲᑕᐃᓯ ᐊᑕᒍᑦᓯᐊᖅ) for proofreading this script! She helped put Inuktitut into Unicode, so she's something of a language hero.
The fellow travellers at the end are Norm and Joey from Tested, who'll put together videos from inside the ship! / testedcom
Also on the voyage:
Ben Brown - / benbrown100 - who's been putting out daily vlogs of his experiences!
TimToTheWild, who's putting together beautiful footage: / timtothewild
Elmo Keep is writing about the people we met:
/ elmo_keep
PLUS: These folks took incredible photos:
Vivienne Gucwa: / travelinglens
Paul Colangelo: / paulcolangelo
Simone Bramante: / brahmino
AND: writing an album on board, singer-songwriter Danny Michel: / dannymichel
I'm at www.tomscott.com/
on Twitter at / tomscott
on Facebook at / tomscott
and on Snapchat and Instagram as @tomscottgo
For those wondering, the title says "Taam Skaat and Qaniujaaqpait", which means "Tom Scott and Syllabics".
Thank you!
Thnak uoo
ᖁᔭᓇᖅ
qujanaq
Thank you, Tusen takk, vielen Dank.
ᓇᖁᒥ
At least nobody can complain about "clickbait" titles here.
this is the no-clickbait zone ("technically")
what does the title say though?!
True anticlickbait.
@@leerwesen Tom Scott and .....
... and “quniujaarkpait”(?) ... which I see on rewatching apparently means “Inuktitut syllabics” in Inuktitut (1:05)
My system is so old the title is just "and"
Oof rip
My old phone didn't render the script of my native language and it made me very sad, thankfully I have a newer one now
Same here😭😭
My title is just " и "
@@erina_lessthan3 потому что вы используете ютуб на русском языке?
@@larsswig912 вполне возможно, что-то я даже не подумал, что кто-то перевёл название
When I make videos I can't record 10 words without stumbling on my words, meanwhile Tom Scott can get through a 4 minute video in one take with perfect recitation.
How has no one noticed you here for two years?
Wendover Productions Hello there
@@wmw05 make it three
@@wmw05 we're rolling on now XD
"one take"
*sees title*
My gosh Unicode is truly one of the wonders of the world.
It's probably your browser's fault, not Android.
It's probably the font's fault, not the browser's.
Lukas Graphen That could be it, too.
So clickbait
Well what is it??? My phones not only andriod but a terrible android
Let's thank Inuktitut for giving us these symbols ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
I was wondering from where they are from.
A lot of native languages in Canada use aboriginal syllabics. We might not know what it means but we can sound out each other’s writing.
Vi(aa)vu
(￣▽￣)
ᐛ isn't used in Inuktitut unforch. It seems like it's only used in Naskapi.
Fun Fact: the guy who invented this script, James Evans, originally for the Cree language, was inspired by the Cherokee syllabary. The Cherokee syllabary had been created by this guy called Sequoyah who didn't even know how to write or read previously, he just discovered that the white settlers living in the area had this neat little system that could record spoken word on paper and decided he wanted something similar. The writing system he created was a resounding success among the Cherokee and is still in use.
Thankyou. This IS a fun fact. ^_^
Another fun fact is that Sequoyah was my great-great-great-great-great-great-half-uncle.
Hmmm... less fun on that one, but a good bit more cool =P
@@miamc4602 so Cherokees write only for about 150-200 years? That's interesting.
... and this is why the relevant section of Unicode is called "Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics" rather than "Cree" or " Inuktitut" - because the set of symbols (or a subset thereof) is used for mutiple languages.
0:25 "People in different areas can understand some of what people say"
So, like the North of England then.
Lmao, is it hard to understand us?
I've got mates in London that understand me no problem and I'm the furthest North you can get.
@@emilywilliams3191 so the Shetlands then??
Oh! Isn’t that in London?
@@flankana Mindrum village.
The "point to show vowel" seems usefull. That's going into my feature list of things I'll use in the language I'll never create
exactly my thuoght
google "conlanging tutorial", that'll help you
you & i? same page!
@@owentheslug i have made many conlangs.
Same
This video has the least searchable title I've ever seen!
Indeed!
There is a vsauce video that is literally about nothing. The title is literally nothing. A close contender.
And I thought that every vsauce video was about nothing.
How is this less searchable than an Arabic or Cyrillic title? Or, for that matter, an English title for someone who only uses the Inuktitut, Arabic or Cyrillic alphabet?
It's not nonsense, it's just a language you don't speak, and a written system you're not familiar with.
Jon
I think what was meant was that the common viewers (using the Latin alphabet most of the time) would have a hard time putting down the letters to search for this video, although you are completely correct.
3:29 The English language is difficult but you can learn it through tough thorough thought though.
That's excellent.
Would be better if it’s “the English language is difficult, you can learn it through tough thorough thought though”
@@shaedcloak5803 Perhaps in your dialect, but not in mine.
@@thekinginyellow1744 that means the two clauses should not contrast
@@YenNguyenDwscA You are looking for logic in English. There is none. Forget what they taught you in school. It is only true while you are in school.
*Finally, I'll be able to read those Minecraft Enchanting Table symbols*
*standard galactic alphabet
Oh, I tought it is Hebrew.
@@tux1468 the same one from Commander Keen? (That was also called the standard galactic alphabet).
@@lyrimetacurl0 Yes, the exact same one.
@@tux1468 you look like someone who would know. is aurebesh from star wars a modified version of standard galactic alphabet?
We'll see how well various people's devices can cope with that title! My fact-checker was one of the team who put Inuktitut into Unicode, so if you've got a modern device it should work fine...
how is this comment older than the ones below it?
galaxy s5 neo.. title not working..
My arch linux rig running chromium could display it while it had trouble displaying Chinese characters when I didn't have the proper font installed.
Xperia E4G:
" (blank space) and"
No problem here,
Thanks for the video, Tam Skat.
I'm a skatman!
*Scatman
ugh
*Taam Skaat
Wouldn't it be Sakaat? Otherwise it'd have two vowels in sequence?
"The password is on the back of the router"
The back of the router:
I don't get it.
@@anon_of_kat It's a joke talking about how the letters on the back of the router are always hard to read and usually beaten up
@Comrade Kitten
Are you saying there's nothing on the back of the router, or are you attempting to reference something?
@@Her_Imperious_Condescension What Alabamian Mapping said
@@dukeofworcestershire7042
No, I know what the joke is, I'm just wondering why the punchline is blank.
Wow. Only 30,000 fluent speakers? I now feel more extra privileged than I already did to have had the good fortune to hear a group of three people speaking in Inuktitut on a rather long bus ride in Ottawa. I listened to them with delight the entire way.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant portion of that 30 thousand are in Ottawa at any given time, given how many Inuit people come down here for medical care
I love love love your linguistics stuff.
kyl3k91 check out xidnaf he has a ton of cool language videos
Tom needs to make more language videos.
This video was fascinating, and so well explained!
His "Tom Scott Language Files" playlist should have way more videos
200th like.... ;3 ;d ;D :"SD:"SD":ED
The best irony is that this video is still easily searchable despite comments claiming otherwise, while actual unsearchable videos are about falling off Rainbow Road on Mario Kart
Dude, I love abugidas. They’re so elegant and systematic.
I drove an Abugidas for awhile until gas prices went up
With the example at 3:29 English is really an outlier. There are many European languages that use latin alphabet that are highly phonemic with just some minor exceptions caused by the natural shifts in pronunciation over time.
English in general is pretty unusual because it's part Germanic and part Latin. Even in the rest of Europe, most languages are one or the other. The closest is supposedly Friesian, via Old English, although I can't personally hear any similarity with modern English.
Part Germanic part Latin like photograph (Greek) and Beef/muton (French) or did you mean words like bungalow (hindi)?
+Cyanakrli wait what? Is this a reference to something I'm missing?
English is a shitshow. There's barely any connection between symbols and sounds anymore. I mean, just the symbol "A" represents at least three sounds, as well as a diphtong.
Enthused Norseman do you know the GHOTI spelling "fish" trick?
The Video Anylitics:
Discovery from RUclips Search: 0%
Actually this video was top suggested when i searched for the second sentence in the description
I will ruin that
I searched tom scott inuktitut
I searched "abugida" to get here.
So im worth 0% gee thx
2:55 "Sorry parents, it was probably an accident" now that's what I call excellent writing
“What did you do during the break?”
“I memorized a language”
It's important to note that you can't learn the language by figuring out the sounds all the characters make, just the script. If you want to learn a language, that's an Entire Adventure
@Keegan Young No, you can, but this video hasn't taught you the language. It's taught you a written alphabet. It's like learning the Sindarin alphabet and then saying you can speak Sindarin - you'd be lost the moment you actually tried to translate something, because not only are the written representations for the sounds different, but also the underlying meaning of what those sounds collected together.
@Keegan Young no, I'm saying that just memorizing the script is not learning a language. Once you know all the sounds of the thai alphabet does not mean you can speak thai, just knowing the writing system isn't enough
@@seanp4644 For sure, there's a huge gap between "that says 'denwa'!" and knowing what the heck 'denwa' means.
So... How goes "The Break"?
Personally, it's broken me.
Being Canadian and interested in linguistics, this is one of the most interesting videos you've put up ever, for me
I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHERE THE HANDS FOR EMOTICONS CAME FROM
3 years later
They are actually Japanese "tsu" in hiragana
@@TaygaHoshi good job
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Tayga No, that’s the smiley face
@@lsvensson2166 vi(aa)vu?
Kudos to the Christian missionaries who were openminded enough to create a completely new fitting script instead of pushing the Latin one.
Funny part: they guy who invented it (it was invented for Cree, by the way, not Inuktitut) didn't actually know Cree that well, and his original version didn't have a way to handle final consonants because he didn't think that Cree had them. The natives were the ones who invented that "superscript means final consonant" solution.
*cough*Vietnamese*cough*
No missionaries did not invent this. This system existed in India is used for most of Indian languages since thousands of years(like BCE). This scripting is called the Brahmi script. Europeans learnt about America trying look for a sea route to India where missionaries were already there.
Ragu Kattinakere yeah....no.
You nationalists can keep pretending that your country is on the top of the world, just don't bug us when we're talking about real life.
What nationalism? Your ignorance of existing writing systems or your English comprehension issues do not make me a nationalist. It doesn't make you "talk about real life" either. There are many writing systems in the world. Try to learn about them before you call names. No one said anything is on top of anything else.
“Sorry parents it was probably an accident”
Tom you didn’t need to murder me
I can't believe I'm actually seeing my culture on the internet at all.
@@bonjour2877 how is that going
@@bonjour2877 Would also like to know; How did(/is) that go(ing)?
I miss your linguistics videos, Tom! Quite literally had a little jump for joy when I saw this (especially being Canadian myself) :) Can't wait to see more
He stopped making linguistics videos because Xidnaf and The Ling Space do it better.
_Xidnaf_ as much as I'm a fan, is just a collage kid that needs to focus on his studies (last I checked) while Tom is already a collage graduate in Linguistics! So, I hope he also makes videos on this subject again someday soon as much as I which the same out of _Xidnaf_.
I mean no disrespect to either of them, or to your for your opinion, but personally I COMPLETELY disagree. I think Tom's linguistics videos are amazing, for much the same reasons I love all his other videos... You can really, truly tell that he cares. It seems less scripted, less robotic. A lot of RUclipsrs who focus on educational content are admittedly somewhat boring, as if they're reading out of a textbook. You can see the passion for learning in Tom's eyes, and you can see him start to get carried away with his rants, and watch him catch himself when he remembers he should be staying on topic XD Is it ever-so-slightly unprofessional? I suppose you could argue that, but to me, it just shows that he loves what he does and that is what makes it so very enjoyable to learn from him.
Yeah I tried The Ling Space and got bored. I think Tom said that his co-script-writer for the linguistics videos is too busy with a big project (I forget, a book maybe?), so there won't be more of those. Which I agree is sad, because I enjoyed them, he has an enthusiasm for them that I haven't seen elsewhere. And he has a talent for making it look like he's not working from a script :-)
I hadn't heard that, must have missed it... But very good to know, thank you! Any idea who that cowriter is? If it is, indeed, a book, then that would be one hell of a good read! :D
These symbols are also used for other aboriginal languages in Canada, such as Cree!
This has to be the hardest video to search besides vsauces video:
:
Nah the song called " " by " " is harder to look up
@@tlonigamer421 huh? link? can't look it up, you know?
@YANEZA Luis Venancio ಥʖ̯ಥ
Also don´t forget that Mario Kart video titled "! ?". Try searching for it, you won´t find it. (But there is a secret way)
Could someone add subtitles to this video in inuktitut? That would be fantastic.
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I could give it a shot.
Only problem is I'm not sure how to add subtitles to videos I don't own.
+OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa cog icon at the bottom of the video where you can also change the video resolution, subtitles, add subtitles.
Oh cool. And inuktitut is one of the languages you can add subtitles in.
ᖁᔭᓐᓇᒦᑦ ᐃᓅᖃᑎᑦᑎᓐᓂᑦ ᑕᑯᒃᓴᐅᑎᑦᑎᐊᕋᕕᑦ. The Inuktitut you have explained is spot on, thank you for the quick and informative explanation of Inuktitut!
The title is "Tom Scott and Inuktut Syllabics" CMIIW tho...
I got "qaniujaaqpait", because a small r and a k together look like q and I assumed them being small together was like a small q
wait when you select it it's one letter so I think it is a q
Tom Mentioned about it in one of the comments below
Thanks. I had no idea what the second part said.
On my 3DS it's "[][][][][][] and [][][][][][][][][][][]".
Tom: "Sorry Parents, it was probably an accident" Me: No worries. My baby was an accident as well.
nice
Yikes
nikes
pikes
neato
That looks like Inuit or something. I’m really intrigued by the Arctic and Inuit culture. Finding random Arctic cities and checking out just everything is really informative and entertaining
Wow, this is the most Alien looking language I've ever seen. Rectangular shapes in different directions. How many movies used this for their "Alien" languages, I wonder?
It's a lot easier to generate a much more alien looking script. www.omniglot.com/conscripts/english.htm
Icedragon that website is genuinely cool
*Quenya enters the chat*
Lived in Canada for over 40 years and grew up on CBC North but never knew what those syllabics meant until now. Thank you.
Reminds me a lot of Japanese, only Japanese gets _really_ complicated when you start throwing in kanji.
China and Taiwan, who’s entire languages are kanji (hanzi): 👁👄👁
@@PatheticTV not entire languages. Uyghur, Tibetan, Mongolian, Zhuang, and numerous small languages spoken in China don't use hanzi.
@@shwabb1 You could legitimately argue those are different languages
@@emilyscloset2648 I'm confused by your response. I never said that these languages are the same. I only said that not all languages in China use hanzi.
I love Abugidas! I didn't think you would make a linguistic video.
If I recall, he studied and has done work in linguistics. Check out his older stuff, they are full of linguistics videos!
Daniel Donkersloot Cool I thought he only did science. Thank you much!
this is absolutely incredible! its amazing how such a language has formed. and throughout the video it reminded me of the Korean writing system. in so many aspects are they the same with the as no consonant, you must have a consonant and a vowel, the writing system was made from scratch and how similar sounding consonants look similar this is incredible watch me go and learn to read this language.
See? Your background in Linguistics all came together at 80 degrees north. :) This is awesome. Inuktitut = makes sense, looks great.
I didn't know the title of the video.. that's something I didn't know
Something along the lines of...
Taamsquaat and rkani.... -ujaarkpa-it..
Tom Scott and Arcane...
I think that the second word is just the native name fro the writing system
Yeah Tom said somewhere here in comments that it isn't English.
it's "Qaniujaaqpait" , which according to Tom means "Inuktitut syllabics"
I read this it's says like and subscribe
Oh, like Hiragana, but way simpler to memorize
It's like korean but assembled in line
Not entirely. Hiragana is a syllabary, meaning each symbol is completely different no matter what sound it represents. Abugidas, like Inuktitut, have different symbols for consonants, but the vowel sound is implied only through diacritics. So basically in syllabaries "ka" and "ko" are different symbols, in abugidas they're the same symbol "k", but slightly modified.
@@TheInkyPsycho Hiragana does straddle the line here though, does it not? There's a symbol for making the sound long, and many symbol's consonant, rather than their vowel, is changed by a diacritic... there's also a symbol for an ending consonant.
@@TheInkyPsycho abugidas (like the one show in the video) have consonants as a base and them change or add something to it, while japanese hiragana is a sillabary, where eatch symbol is equivalent to a syllable and dont really have a clear correlation (there are exceptions, in human languages nothing is a fact set in stone)
@ꨓꨕ་ꨚꨝ་ꨆꨈ ꪒꪲꪐꪬ Marty! You're not thinking fourth-dimensionally!
ti and tu were "lost in time", since their phonolgy shifted, as happens in (almost?) every language. For some speakers ti and chi are the same. ("chi" has most definitely a "T" in it, listen to the sound). For romanization (which will never truly reproduce the real sounds completely) there are and have been different approaches.
Hiragana is not an abugida though, but for another reason: the symbols have no indication of being formed with the same consonant.
(take some time to at least read wikipedia before talking nonsense)
It's silly to use English spelling as an argument to criticise Latin alphabet. English spelling is a mess because of the intermixing with French and other Romance languages.
Look how the Latin alphabet works in Slavic languages like Czech or Polish and you'll see how regular, predictable and simple to use it is.
Latin alphabet works just as well for languages like German, it seems. Pronunciation and spelling is nearly always straightforward in it.
Finnish has 8 vowels (long and short versions for all) and also "long consonants", and it is written phonetically with the latin alphabet. You can also write almost perfect English with the Finnish phonetics. With some added accents it probably would be perfect phonetic fit.
The origins of English have nothing to do with its writing system. It is a mess because it froze 500 years ago and we don't pronounce words that way any more.
i read an article by Jonathan Meades where he claimed that the accents alive today that are closed to English before the Great Vowel Shift is Brummie and East Midlands dialects
he recommends seeing a production of Shakespeare produced in Birmingham to get a better flavour of how the plays would have sounded when they were written
This is what I was thinking as well. Spanish has no "complicated unwritten rules" and a words spelling dictates it's pronunciation exactly (there's different accents in different countries but that's another story).
anannas? you mean pineapples?
This ᐊᓈᓇᓱ is very dangerous and may attack at any time, ᕖ must ᑏᓪ with ᐄᑦ.
the rest of the world says ananas right? just like the rest of the world says maize and not corn
Maize and corn are different species.
How are 'maize' different from 'corn' in your opinion? 'Corn' is just a generic term for the most used grain locally, so, back when communication was hard your "corn" could be different than the "corn" from another part of the country (rye or any other grain you can think of). However, since maize became the most common grain in North America also add to that the global power of the U.S. and you have English-speakers more and more calling maize 'corn'.
+sion8 Most eNglish speakers outside North America do not refer to maize as corn.
Omg anaana is just sounds like “Anaanne” which means grandmother in Turkish
And it literally translates as “main mother”
Well, it was invented by missionaries, maybe they were Turkish?
@@AnAverageItalian the writing system was invented by missionaries, the language was already being spoken by the Inuit before the missionaries arrived.
And whats the word for a secondary mother?
@@AtomicAlchemist what’s secondary mother? :D
its actually anne-anne (mother-mother) then it became annane over time. also turks in central asia used to say ata (father) back in time.idk if they still calling but in turkey we prefer baba for father and ata means ancestor now.
Tom,
I've been a fan for years and find it shocking you've not been picked up as a TV presenter for BBC 2 documentaries. Keep up the good work!!
Yes! He would make a really amazing presenter. Maybe we should start a petition
Not sure a step down to television presenting would be a good idea when he already has such a huge reach on a much much bigger platform like RUclips.
This is a language I'd seriously love to learn. It looks so cool.
You should with the shortage of people knowing it
Multiple languages use the Canadian Aboriginal syllabics: Inuktitut, Inuvialuktun, Western Cree, Eastern Cree, Siksiká, North Slavey, South Slavey, Dane-zaa, Chipweyan, and Dakelh.
I was so impressed with the long tracking shot and white space on the right for text that I had to watch this video again for the substance. Great work!
The latin alphabet doesn't have ambiguities, the interpretation by languages do. English is pretty bad in this respect, having a lot of ambiguities like shown at the end of the video. But that's not the case for all latin script languages.
honestly, English wasn't always that bad in this regard either. The reason it gets so confusing is that we codified spelling and then the pronunciation of words kept changing, but the way we spelled them did not.
Also English is a mix of Latin, French and the older version of English, all forced into one writing and pronounciation system. And to accomodate these three kids, the trenchcoat of pronounciation has become quite monstrous.
Yes. Both Esperanto (very practical) and Lojban (less practical) use the Latin alphabet.
@Dalis918 Isn't English considered part of a family of German languages, anyway?
@Dalis918 No, Latin, along with French, Spanish, Italian are part of the Romance languages, while Scandinavian, German, Dutch, Yiddish are part of the Germanic languages (OrangeC7 meant to say Germanic, not German). - What you think of is the Indo-European languages, and the vast majority of the European and Indian languages are Indo-European, which is easy to get from the name. Native African languages are not Indo-European for example; but obviously Spanish, French, Dutch, English that are imported, and Afrikaans that has evolved from Dutch, are Germanic.
Guessing they don't have regular keyboards made with their symbols, but maybe mobile keyboards. If so, what do they look like? Seems to me there could be some amazing design put into that too. Things like angling the symbol after choosing it with swiping in a direction maybe?
On desktop machines, you can just add Inuktitut as a keyboard layout; you'll need to learn to touch-type on it, but it's not too hard. On mobile, I think it's just like a regular keyboard right now, but there's no reason it couldn't be something more clever!
A touch screen would be great for this language. Touch one of the 16 "letter" and swipe in a direction.
In Japan they have some swipe modification based keyboards for phones. It works very quickly apparently..
You don't need that, you'll probably just do like with Japanese. You write it with the latin alphabet and your computer converts it.
sevret313 Yea you could. We are talking design here though. With such a well designed language such a simple solution seems a little boring. Just my opinion though.
What you are talking about is just a pure and simple tranformation from latin symbols to inuktitut. We are talking about a solution that don't need to map their symbols to latin symbols. Tom said in the video that it isn't a very effective mapping.
kimitoni~kakâyawisîn, ayhay/têniki! kinanâskomitin :) ᑭᒥᑐᓂᑲᑳᔭᐏᓰᐣ、ᐊᕀᐦᐊᕀ/ᑌᓂᑭ! ᑭᓇᓈᐢᑯᒥᑎᐣ᙮
Cree for “You are a hard worker, thank you! I am grateful.” I have always wanted to learn Inuktitut, this was a nice little video. Now I want to want to go out and buy some books!! 🥰
"Mama, which is a sound they make accidentally."
You broke my heart.
I was NOT expecting to see norm from Tested anywhere near Tom Scott EVER.
This is Interesting somewhat similar to Ethiopian language “Ge’ez”. The scripts or the alphabets are also called “Abugida” written as “አቡጊዳ”.
Because the Ethiopian script is actually an abugida.
I was wondering about that, I started going to an Ethiopian restaurant and was completely taken aback when they had their own written language I'd never seen before. Sticks out like a sore thumb on Google Maps too. Also those guys make some awesome food.
I came here because a government letter I recieved had a note in Amharic (written in Ge'ez) that translations of it are available online
Then told my friends how this consonant-vowel combo thing is cool. Then one friend sent me a link to this video
"What do you speak?"
"Ge'ez"
"You've got no clue?"
"Latin alphabet, where there are just arbitrary symbols you have to learn."
"Complicated letters with unwritten rules that all influence eachother."
Speak for yourself, English!
English uses Latin alphabet
@@usualunusualkid7149 you mean misuses
*laughs in finnish and italian*
Hah, Macedonian Cyrillic all the way! 100% phonetic 🇲🇰😎
scrolled down to like exactly this comment. Latin, German, Italian, English is basically the exeption here.
Latin alphabet doesn't have innately difficult pronunciation rules, English language has just complicated them to the extreme. But in some languages that use the Latin alphabet each letter corresponds with just one sound without being influenced by the other letters around it and reading them out loud is as easy as making those sounds in the order they appear in the word.
Seriously bro..... This is an awesome video. Just the mere fact that you've gone out of your way.... Chosen an obscure subject.... Researched it... Compiled it... Recorded, edited and shared it is so cool. Food for thought. Thanks to you and your team.
Such a clickbait title.
Infinitely clickable, infinitely unsearchable.
this is literally not clickbait. he actually explains how to read the title in the video and why the way its written is interesting. how has this title little to do with the actual content?
it's a joke
bakdsnack can you ruin the joke and explain it?
tjeulink because he's saying it's a click bait title yet it's in a language pretty much nobody understands. Making it the opposite of click bait.
Constructed scripts and shallow orthographies are great! That's why I think Hangul is cool!
For anyone visiting: the Inuktitut script is now officially dead. Due to a 2019 inter-tribal agreement on standardising the Inuit language family, Inuktitut will now be written with Roman letters.
cygil1 RIP Happy Gary. 🙁
Source?
thats realy sad
Nooooo I wanted to go to read the signs and learn the alphabet :(
It isn't dead - the national Inuit association did agree to create a standardised Latin script, but Inuktitut syllabics are still officially accepted in Nunavut and are still widely used. The Latin script might eventually fully replace it eventually but that's not the case right now.
*Tom Scott* and *QANIYUKAPAIT* ?
It's a translation of "Inuktitut syllabics", not a transliteration. Seemed a bit wrong to put the English sounds into Inuktitut script!
ohh so its Qaniujaaqpait
ᑖᒻ ᔅᑳᑦ taam skaat - Tom Scott
ᖃᓂᐅᔮᖅᐸᐃᑦ qaniujaarkpait?
How is that qaniyukapait?
Took me like two minutes to "read" that _one_ word, so...
But I'm not even sure I did it right
I was about to post the same thing, Taam Sakaat and qaniujaaqpait.
For those wondering, the title (translated to latin script) is "Taam skaat and qaniujaaqpait"
why do you have rgb pfp
@@joshua1402 It's a pride flag
@@malthefm6376 no it's a rainbow RGB flag
@@joshua1402 my mistake
This is legitimately one of your coolest videos!
This is the only time i'm posting "You Didn't Search For This Video!"
i did
:O
@@poop226 how
@@imcarlosjr4898 I copied and pasted those symbols 👁️👄👁️
That ”Ataata” really resembles the old Finnish words: ”Taata” (”Grandpa”) and ”Taatto”
(”Father”), which are cognate with each other.
I actually think they resemble the old Turkish (or maybe today's some Turkic languages) more, where mother is "ana" and father is "ata" :)
In Bulgarian there's an informal word for father: "tati".
In Ainu, similarly I think it's acapo
"I am literally speaking baby talk" - you need to turn this into a T-shirt Tom!
Do a video about the language called lojban. Unless you've already done that... very interesting video! thanks for sharing!
he's mentioned lojban but for like 1 second.
yeah, I thought so. I'd like to see a whole video about it, though...
Same!
And Ithkuil.
Check out the youtube channel "Conlang Critic". He makes videos disecting conlangs just like tom used to, is still active, and has made videos on both Lojban and Ithkuil already.
This is reminding me of the Korean writing system, which is really interesting and worth looking up if you're somehow seeing this new comment on this old video
Looking back at this video, it is very cool to say I am currently writing this from Iqaluit, Nunavut! I'm from Toronto, but I'm on a 4 month long internship for school!
The Latin alphabet is simple. It is the English orthography that is messed up...
Well m8 Seems like every body here is speaking english even the Finns???
It cant be that messed up if it has dominated the world.
@@warrioromarzthefirst5949 ...because the people that last dominated the most of the world used that messed up and inconsistent language where Godmanchester is pronounced gumster and Fetherstonhaugh is pronounced fanshaw.
Those are overly extreme historical name cases (and people don'treallyread them like that anymore, it's too ridiculous), but even in common words "-ough" sounds different in damn near every word it's in.
Well why do we still speak it. Its been awhile since england dominated the world. The answer is that many cultures didnt have a written language and the english gave them one. So you can insult the english all you want but your doing it in there language ahahahah
@@warrioromarzthefirst5949 You seem to be making the mistake of assuming that something wouldn’t become standard if it wasn’t good
@@cyberneticsquid The guy didn't say "good", only said "that messed up".
I'd agree with that, English isn't *that* messed up(I'd say everything could've been worse)
Tom: The word for mom is a sound that a baby will make accidentally.
Japanese: "haha"
Me: make sense..
Meanwhile, imperial standard: skritschaultlatanska neproulst (progenitor female, yes really,)
Japan actually has an island named Hahajima
Every consonant a symbol, and every vowel a direction. That's so satisfying.
0:48 Sounds like a drunk person trying to hit on someone. "Kwaassuup? (r¯//▽//¯)r"
What's the difference between "ng" and "nng"?
The difference between bumping into someone's shoulder and getting your toe stomped on.
The ng is the sound you get in pink and king and thing. nng is when that sound is germinated, which is basically just holding the sound for longer. We don't have it in English, not making words different anyway, but you can kinda get it when you combine two words that end and start with the same syllable, like roommate, misspell, lamppost, calm man, where you can hold that syllable connecting the words for longer than normal. Some can be confusing, like "night train" can be taken as "night rain," or "unaimed" vs "unnamed."
There isn't one? What language in the world distinguishes between those?
Did you watch the video ?
icedragon769 Japanese does too, actually, though more for vowels than for ng. Kato, katoo, katto and kaato all mean different things in Japanese. It drives beginners crazy.
As a philologist I found this FASCINATING! Thank you 🙂
It is somewhat reminiscent of Pitman's Shorthand notation but, from what I can see, not as complicated.
You talk about Latin alphabet "with just arbitrary symbols you have to learn" - well, that's true for English, but there are many other languages using Latin alphabet (or Latin-based alphabet), where this is not a problem, and the same character (or combination of characters) always, or almost always, corresponds to the same phone (sound). Take e.g. German, Italian, Hungarian, all Slavic languages, ... just to mention languages I know something about.
Simply, to have different pronunciation for the same group of characters (tough - though - through - thorough, or fear vs. bear, etc.) is problem of English language, not of the Latin alphabet.
Even then, though, the same letters are being used for different things. English just accentuates this by using loan words from many of those languages.
Vous ne parlez pas français... ;^)
@@celestialgloam7439 you mean like how "c" is used for [s] and [k]? it's also not a feature of every language, in czech or polish for example "c" is only used for [ts], and well if you've studied latin, the language for which this script was made, there's none of this anglo-french mess with the letters, it's as straightforward as you can get
Thank you!
The symbols are still arbitrary, though. There's no pattern to the shapes of the glyphs of the Latin alphabet. And there's no relationship between similar sounds and similar letters, with the possible exception of b and p, which are a voiced and unvoiced pair.
Please talk about the Korean alphabet. I was amazed by how easy it is to learn it and I think many viewers will be interested of being able to read an Asian language :)
Easy? I've asked several different people to teach me the basics of Korean, and I'll never get it.
@@juliansmith4295 I was amazed how elegant and simple Korean writing system actually is as I gave it a try. But Inuktitut abugida is way more fancy for me
@@juliansmith4295 Reading to Korean Hangeul is easy. Learning the actual language is really, really hard. And I say that as a fluent Japanese speaker.
dude i gotta say this language has been the GOAT for function aliases in python, as they're from a language you can actually use them as identifiers
The second word in the title looks like boobies
I am a responsible adult.
Why? Thats no fun!
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Prankster Aleks [and]?
Quick, turn your monitor upside-down! 5318008
That's a smart system!
I think English needs a slow overhaul to something more like that system.
I live in Canada and I have never heard of this fact. Thank you for sharing!
I only know that Alert can not grow plants because it is very cold all year round.
Latin alphabet fails that spectacularly only in some languages, like English. In many Latin alphabet-using languages, there's one letter=one sound correspondence and it works just fine.
This is especially noticable in Slavic languages (at least in Polish) where (most) words (even loan words) are written as they are spoken.
MarioFanGamer Polish has actually probably the most complex spelling rules out of all Slavic languages, but even then it's regular and pronunciation of non-loanwords is 100% deductible, unlike in English or French. But then, a much better example of regular spelling is Croatian/Serbian.
Curious. In my experience english can be written very accurately with the Finnish phonetics version of latin alphabet (better than actual english spelling anyway). It probably would be even closer fit if you allow for some accents.
Khyrius in mai eksperiens inglish khän bii writen veri akuratly with thö finish fonetiks version of latin alfabet. About like that? In finnish all of the letters are always pronounced very prominently so an accent would be a necessary compromise.
German is very logically structured too
4:04 “Great! Now no one will know what my social medias are!”
I'm making a conlang and this seems like a perfect writing system for it, thanks for bringing this to my attention Tom!
This reminds me of Korean. They always add vowels too. I would watch a 15 minutes video about this.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Not really.
Vowels are written in Korean.
@@elchapito4580 Nah. The post implies that Korean doesn't accommodate consonant clusters, which is true. This is also true with Japanese and Austronesian languages in Oceania.
Gotta admit, it's a really cool system.
This is by far the coolest unicode script I've ever seen. It looks "sci-fi" in a way.
72 people watching this video ain't having Nunavut.
There are just not inuit.
Yukon not possibly make anymore puns.
something something arctic snow
Inuit! I knew someone would not like this video.
There’s snow way anyone can make any more puns.
If you are interested in linguistics, I heartily recommend the channels of Xidnaf and Artifexian.
This is a very clever system! Never heard of it before, thank you!
thankyou for talking about endangered indigenous language(s) as such as this.
Can you do a video about Korean script? I've just recently started learning about it's structure and it has so many really great design choices.
xidnaf did one
This is the most profoundly helpful video on linguistics, thank you!
How am I ever going to search for this video in the future??!
Ehhhh, Tom Scott just quoted some research I was involved in. Happy day :)
Canada’s new Governor General is Inuit so the program for her ceremony today was written in Inuktitut as well. Very cool to see it in action.
The governor-general, ᒥᐊᓕ ᓴᐃᒪᓐ (Mary Simon), is Inuit. Inuktitut is a language.
@@juliansmith4295 thanks for the correction 💓
wow, i'm stunned! "anana" and "atata" correspond to -almost- the same words in turkish. "ana" is mother and "ata" is father (more like ancestor).
It is funny, in Czech it is máma (maama) and táta (taata) :)
Hungarian: anya, apa (atya)
These words are similar in many languages
It's not unlikely, the japanese for grandmother is the same as it in most slavic languages.
@@celestialgloam7439 So basically "babushka"? And no not the hood.
Reminds me of Japanese... and of a language system I was working on, except that combined multiple consonant vowel clusters together and layered them even more so. It had a similar pointing system though.
could be because inuit came from asia to be specific mainly siberia and being spoken for more than 6 thousand years.