I can't believe I got to do this. One thing that didn't make it into the video, there were actually some well drawn figures in the iron rod paper, but every single one of them had "REMOVE FROM PUBLICATION" notices on them, presumably because they couldn't afford to have them printed. And now that I've said that out loud I realize that, like, that is also really boring. Glad I got that Darwin pull....
My first reaction when Brady vetoed the Darwin paper was, "Hank, don't let him do that". Glad, they got back to it. Didn't Hank talk about this exact letter in the Darwin episode of Scishow tangents?
I'm actually curious about some of the details of that paper... Those sorts of tests are pretty common for engineers to do first hand at some point in their undergrad work, but material science has come a long way since 1840. The way a few of those variables were named makes me think the poor guy might've had a pretty rough time getting usable results.
And the materials engineering is so highly relevant to our lives! They tried hard to make pillars out of cast iron, but they can't be made consistently enough / the Victorians couldn't detect flaws on the inside of the pillars, so they had a tendency to randomly collapse without warning. Therefore despite pretty solid industrial infrastructure, they couldn't really make buildings any higher than what could be done in the medieval era. The invention of industrial processes for steel changed that, and made skyscrapers possible, creating the modern skylines of every city we know. So the tests for cast-iron pillars were really a part of a larger story that affects us all. John should do an Anthropocene Reviewed on it.
@@jasonmyneni8605 I have worked with a few books and manuscripts much older than this. None has given me goosebumps like getting my hands on that book would!
Barnacles were originally classified by Linnaeus and Cuvier as Mollusca, but in 1830 John Vaughan Thompson published observations showing the metamorphosis of the nauplius and cypris larvae into adult barnacles, and noted how these larvae were similar to those of crustaceans. In 1834 Hermann Burmeister published further information, reinterpreting these findings. The effect was to move barnacles from the phylum of Mollusca to Articulata, showing naturalists that detailed study was needed to reevaluate their taxonomy.[23] Charles Darwin took up this challenge in 1846, and developed his initial interest into a major study published as a series of monographs in 1851 and 1854.[23] Darwin undertook this study, at the suggestion of his friend Joseph Dalton Hooker, to thoroughly understand at least one species before making the generalisations needed for his theory of evolution by natural selection.[24]
Darwin spent nearly 5 years (with interruptions) working on this monograph. It was the definitive work for many decades. He spent so much time on it that one of his children, upon visiting friends, asked where their father "did his barnacles". He was puzzled at the answer, he thought every gentleman worked on barnacles.
I'm just impressed with Keith's efficiency! He finds all this obscure stuff so quickly and happily. Also speaks to what an amazing library system they've built at the Royal Society!
I loved seeing the emotion brought into the room when Keith read the conclusion of Darwin's The Origin of Species. What a brave and beautiful thing it was for Darwin to have written that text. @5:35
And it too was immortalized in the end of a masterpiece of a song from Nightwish - The greatest show on Earth. I really recommend to watch live performance (and read the lyrics). Great homage
Evolution was the theme for the album Endless Forms Most Beautiful by Nightwish. An excellent album I might add. The band was able to get Richard Dawkins to read the same passage that Keith read at the end of the song The Greatest Show on Earth. The song is worth listening to but I'll warn you now it is long, very long - 24 minutes.
Loved the barnacle letter, but I have to admit you guys were a bit dismissive of the 12 tables! Those looked so great! If they are pretty much just basic stress tests until destruction one could compare their results with modern results for iron or more modern alloys. To each their own I guess. Always a joy to see Hank there!
Ascdren - Hodgkinson was one of the lead engineers who worked on the design of the Britannia Bridge, so his calculations turned out to be of considerable practical use.
Same here haha! I wonder if they had all of the controlled variables tracked down by that point or if they just broke a bunch of iron rods. And cast iron, of all the materials to pick. yikes
I suspect it must've happened because it's just human nature, but I wonder if in times when written letters were far more common, people would try to avoid awkward requests or compromises by pretending they never received a certain letter and the next time they meet the sender, if they are asked about the letter, just say that they never received that letter. We know people do that currently with emails, I'm sure it must've been fairly common when letters could be lost, misplaced or stolen in so many different ways.
Hank would be me in the RS archives. “Can go INTO the vault? Look at this! Look at these! Wow, a first printing Origin of Species!” Just clearly giddy while surrounded by history.
I love the chemistry between everyone on screen! So many silly moments of personality here. That bill of sale made me laugh, leave it to the President of the Royal Society to hang on to receipts :) Great work guys!
If I worked here you would literally never see me again, I would disappear into the stacks to read endlessly and someone would come across my mummified body years later like that scholar in Avatar lol.
And this video reading a request by Darwin for free barnacle samples just happened to come after I watched a video of posts to r/ChoosingBeggars. It seems he would have been posted there if Reddit was around then.
YOU FOOLS ! !! the Gloves Of Destiny choose carefully the second and third picks in order to manipulate brady's mind into accepting the first pick. all hail the Gloves Of Destiny !!!! 🙌
After watching so much videos of objectivity, I want to state that keith looks like watered down version of sir Issac Newton. (If the legend has to be believed) And he is the head librarian. What a surprise? Oops exclamation point!!!!!
They're the White Golves of Destiny. Only the guest need wear these gloves to dictate fate. The gloves aren't meant to protect the artifacts. I believe Brady mentioned before that it's actually preferable not to wear golves when handling them, as they can get in the way and lead to a higher chance of accidental damage, the oils from being bare handed trivial in comparison.
@@kylec8015 There's an exception for book pages because of the risk of tearing. They still use the gloves for handling the books' covers and other artifacts.
Barnacles are creepy, almost like reverse evolution. Virtually blind shrimps incapable of movement, back down, head fused to a rock, doing nothing but waving food to their mouths with their legs. The horror of diminishing freedom.
I'm sure the barnacles find it quite comfortable. Also, since evolution has no goal or aim, it makes no sense to think of it going backwards or forwards, much less to assume that physical freedom is an inherently superior attribute.
In some species the males had their freedom even more diminished. Darwin discovered under his microscope that what a appeared to be an organ of the female is actually the male of the species. He named these "complemental males". They were reduced to basically just the testicles and all the other life functions were provided by the female.
@@flamencoprof Yes, he'd have loved to have known of these. There was so much unknown in his day that would have helped him develop his theory more quickly. Then again, it was his close personal study of bees and flowers and pigeons, etc, that enabled him to work out the details of his theory. A Search of the Darwin Manuscripts Project gives no results for Ceratiidae or Anglerfish, which is not surprising given the lack of knowledge of the deep ocean biome in his time.
I can't believe I got to do this. One thing that didn't make it into the video, there were actually some well drawn figures in the iron rod paper, but every single one of them had "REMOVE FROM PUBLICATION" notices on them, presumably because they couldn't afford to have them printed. And now that I've said that out loud I realize that, like, that is also really boring. Glad I got that Darwin pull....
The iron rod paper really is basic science, isn't it? Someone has to draw up the standard tables others will refer to.
My first reaction when Brady vetoed the Darwin paper was, "Hank, don't let him do that". Glad, they got back to it. Didn't Hank talk about this exact letter in the Darwin episode of Scishow tangents?
I'm actually curious about some of the details of that paper... Those sorts of tests are pretty common for engineers to do first hand at some point in their undergrad work, but material science has come a long way since 1840. The way a few of those variables were named makes me think the poor guy might've had a pretty rough time getting usable results.
And the materials engineering is so highly relevant to our lives! They tried hard to make pillars out of cast iron, but they can't be made consistently enough / the Victorians couldn't detect flaws on the inside of the pillars, so they had a tendency to randomly collapse without warning. Therefore despite pretty solid industrial infrastructure, they couldn't really make buildings any higher than what could be done in the medieval era.
The invention of industrial processes for steel changed that, and made skyscrapers possible, creating the modern skylines of every city we know. So the tests for cast-iron pillars were really a part of a larger story that affects us all. John should do an Anthropocene Reviewed on it.
what are we seeing at 2:39? a vault within the vault?
I love Keith. "Oh, Brady is looking up something in his phone. While we wait, take a look at this." Pulls out 1st print of On the Origin of Species.
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If I could have one book from the royal society, an original “on the origin of species” would be it
@@jasonmyneni8605 I have worked with a few books and manuscripts much older than this. None has given me goosebumps like getting my hands on that book would!
You could say the Darwin card got ~naturally selected~
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Hah!
That makes me very happy
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Life goals: Someone saves my receipts and submits them to a library of legendary manuscripts 😂
It's a barnacular chain letter! It goes on to say, "Three other Captains ignored my request and sank without trace..." :)
Blistering barnacles!
Barnacles were originally classified by Linnaeus and Cuvier as Mollusca, but in 1830 John Vaughan Thompson published observations showing the metamorphosis of the nauplius and cypris larvae into adult barnacles, and noted how these larvae were similar to those of crustaceans. In 1834 Hermann Burmeister published further information, reinterpreting these findings. The effect was to move barnacles from the phylum of Mollusca to Articulata, showing naturalists that detailed study was needed to reevaluate their taxonomy.[23]
Charles Darwin took up this challenge in 1846, and developed his initial interest into a major study published as a series of monographs in 1851 and 1854.[23] Darwin undertook this study, at the suggestion of his friend Joseph Dalton Hooker, to thoroughly understand at least one species before making the generalisations needed for his theory of evolution by natural selection.[24]
It just makes me so happy to see the enthusiasm and understanding they show when reading the last lines of the first edition. This just made my day.
Darwin spent nearly 5 years (with interruptions) working on this monograph. It was the definitive work for many decades. He spent so much time on it that one of his children, upon visiting friends, asked where their father "did his barnacles". He was puzzled at the answer, he thought every gentleman worked on barnacles.
I'm just impressed with Keith's efficiency! He finds all this obscure stuff so quickly and happily. Also speaks to what an amazing library system they've built at the Royal Society!
The Darwin household:
"Charlie, I'm running some errands!"
"Oh, while you're out, could you pick up some barnacles?"
Is Keith just Hank from the future putting on a British accent?
:-O
Hank's fake British accent is really coming out then. 😂
fugithegreat he has a whole Adolescence of practice!
Somebody better pick from that Herschel drawer some day.
Jesse H. Save it for when they nail that NDT interview?
I still get chills when I hear Keith read the end of Origin.
I loved seeing the emotion brought into the room when Keith read the conclusion of Darwin's The Origin of Species. What a brave and beautiful thing it was for Darwin to have written that text. @5:35
And it too was immortalized in the end of a masterpiece of a song from Nightwish - The greatest show on Earth. I really recommend to watch live performance (and read the lyrics). Great homage
All the spreadsheets of number is a very good example of 'doing the work' for science. I'm glad someone pulled something like that.
Yup. Good fundamental science. It's not glamorous, but it's necessary.
Evolution was the theme for the album Endless Forms Most Beautiful by Nightwish. An excellent album I might add. The band was able to get Richard Dawkins to read the same passage that Keith read at the end of the song The Greatest Show on Earth. The song is worth listening to but I'll warn you now it is long, very long - 24 minutes.
Loved the barnacle letter, but I have to admit you guys were a bit dismissive of the 12 tables! Those looked so great! If they are pretty much just basic stress tests until destruction one could compare their results with modern results for iron or more modern alloys. To each their own I guess. Always a joy to see Hank there!
I actually found those wrote iron pillar tables quite exciting. but I am an engineering student so...
sin(θ*e^π)=27θ
Ascdren - Hodgkinson was one of the lead engineers who worked on the design of the Britannia Bridge, so his calculations turned out to be of considerable practical use.
Same here haha! I wonder if they had all of the controlled variables tracked down by that point or if they just broke a bunch of iron rods. And cast iron, of all the materials to pick. yikes
Golly, for some reason I saw the title thumnail saying "Bring me Barnacles" with a photo of Hank, I instantly heard it being said in his voice!
Keith needs to take up a second (part time?) career as an audio book narrator. I'd listen to him read the fine print on an aspirin bottle.
I would pay serious money to hear him read the side of an aspirin bottle.
Two of my favourite content creators together in this, I literally couldn't be more pleased to watch this!
At least half of my subscription list consists of channels by Brady and Hank. I love it when creators collaborate.
I suspect it must've happened because it's just human nature, but I wonder if in times when written letters were far more common, people would try to avoid awkward requests or compromises by pretending they never received a certain letter and the next time they meet the sender, if they are asked about the letter, just say that they never received that letter. We know people do that currently with emails, I'm sure it must've been fairly common when letters could be lost, misplaced or stolen in so many different ways.
Hank would be me in the RS archives. “Can go INTO the vault? Look at this! Look at these! Wow, a first printing Origin of Species!” Just clearly giddy while surrounded by history.
This was one of my favorite Objectivity videos. The cards were all interesting, partly because they were so mundane.
Brady was biased against doing so much Darwin. It sounds like he was lacking a little... Objectivity.
Together these two people make up about 50% of all RUclips content
Keith's voice
Keith's voice is majestic
An Englishman, an American, and an Australian walk into a vault...
I wonder if Darwin ever wrote love letters, to the effect of, "Bring me crabs."
I love the chemistry between everyone on screen! So many silly moments of personality here. That bill of sale made me laugh, leave it to the President of the Royal Society to hang on to receipts :) Great work guys!
Keith Hank and Brady - YAY!
'Oh and take this crowbar - it's dangerous to go alone'
When I grow up I want to be Keith Moore
Wow the Hogdkinson pick was quite exactly the kind of stuff I'd have very useful in school.
I can't believe they breath right over those invaluables volumes 😮
One day, someone will go for the corner drawers, and reach to the very, very back....
One day...
😁 Billions of blistering blue barnacles! ⛵ This reminds of Tintin's friend, that Captain what's-his-name? Hehe.
Haddock.
Brady and Hank!!! My favorite people in the same video. Now waiting for Grey and John duo ;)
Never doubt the white gloves of destiny.
Barnacles! Apparently, Sponge Bob and Darwin have more in common than originally anticipated.
If I worked here you would literally never see me again, I would disappear into the stacks to read endlessly and someone would come across my mummified body years later like that scholar in Avatar lol.
this is a load of barnacles.
Is it weird that Keith reminds me of my grandmother?
Is it weird that Keith is my grandmother?
Whoa it's Hank!!
i showed u my barnacles pls respond
And this video reading a request by Darwin for free barnacle samples just happened to come after I watched a video of posts to r/ChoosingBeggars. It seems he would have been posted there if Reddit was around then.
It's Ross of the Ross Ice Shelf in the Antarctic. Which is cool.
I see what you did there. 😉
Loved the video. Any chance there could be videos specifically about James/John Ross, Perry, etc?
Brady, you should really introduce Keith to the Librarians of Warhammer 40.000.
This still feels like a weird Hello Internet / Dear Hank and John crossover
What a joy to watch...1
Those were really unlucky dips. Turns out abiding the middle is a good strategy
I love these 'Gloves of destiny' segments! :)
Nobody:
Darwin: *B A R N I C L E S ! ! !*
Yes, I clicked the link on recognition of Hank. I did not need to read the title.
Did he get the barnacles though???
YOU HAVE THE GUEST
Show us the biggest and smallest books in the vault! Please!
Great!
:)
Brady.. you're the maaaan
It’s a wild hank
Hank!!!
What edit is Hank referring to in regards to the origin of species?
My guess it was something about humans being evolved
Wow, now I know this. Yippi! 😊
Trust the gloves, Brady... trust the gloves.
Hank got some really unlucky ones this time. You can always count od Darwin though.
"I've got two of the biggest books"... now im curious to find out what is actually the biggest book there.
They have a "Brady - Very Large" collection if I recall correctly.
YOU FOOLS ! !!
the Gloves Of Destiny choose carefully the second and third picks in order to manipulate brady's mind into accepting the first pick.
all hail the Gloves Of Destiny !!!!
🙌
Where's Muscle Hank?
Give me barnacles or give me death
0:59 WHAT
But... did he get his barnacles???
See what happens when you ignore the White Gloves?
Nice plot twist
Blistering Barnacles!
Hey! You two have the same hair colour!
12 tables of pillars
After watching so much videos of objectivity, I want to state that keith looks like watered down version of sir Issac Newton. (If the legend has to be believed) And he is the head librarian. What a surprise? Oops exclamation point!!!!!
Has Kieth been genetically engineered so his hands don't produce oils?
I read Sabine, assumed they meant a woman and was wondering why they only used her first name...
why only hank is wearing gloves?? shouldn't all wear gloves?
They're the White Golves of Destiny. Only the guest need wear these gloves to dictate fate.
The gloves aren't meant to protect the artifacts. I believe Brady mentioned before that it's actually preferable not to wear golves when handling them, as they can get in the way and lead to a higher chance of accidental damage, the oils from being bare handed trivial in comparison.
@@kylec8015 There's an exception for book pages because of the risk of tearing. They still use the gloves for handling the books' covers and other artifacts.
Lol. It's all about the barnacles.
Darwin would have loved the internet'
I refuse to believe Keith is a real person.
Barnacles are creepy, almost like reverse evolution. Virtually blind shrimps incapable of movement, back down, head fused to a rock, doing nothing but waving food to their mouths with their legs. The horror of diminishing freedom.
I'm sure the barnacles find it quite comfortable. Also, since evolution has no goal or aim, it makes no sense to think of it going backwards or forwards, much less to assume that physical freedom is an inherently superior attribute.
In some species the males had their freedom even more diminished. Darwin discovered under his microscope that what a appeared to be an organ of the female is actually the male of the species. He named these "complemental males". They were reduced to basically just the testicles and all the other life functions were provided by the female.
@@donjones4719 If only he had known about Anglerfish!
@@flamencoprof Yes, he'd have loved to have known of these. There was so much unknown in his day that would have helped him develop his theory more quickly. Then again, it was his close personal study of bees and flowers and pigeons, etc, that enabled him to work out the details of his theory.
A Search of the Darwin Manuscripts Project gives no results for Ceratiidae or Anglerfish, which is not surprising given the lack of knowledge of the deep ocean biome in his time.
Worst guest ever.
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What a joy to watch...1
Brady.. you're the maaaan