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@@GajanBalan After contacting technical support, it turns out that the price is valid for existing customers but only for a new license. It is not possible to extend an existing license. The technical support is excellent, and I have been refunded.
I have a Q3 I love it and it's perfect for my interest in architecture and landscaping. I differ from the point-and-shoot comment. Any camera used fully automatic is a point-and-shoot. This camera gives you the opportunity to shoot manually and get amazing pictures.
I enjoyed your in-depth and frankly honest appraisal of the Leica Q3 and who might be the customer most likely to benefit from one. I am one of them. For my two-week family vacation to Italy this past October, I left my Canons at home and took the Q2 and the M11, along with my Voigländer 50mm APO Lanthar and Leica APO Telyt-M 135mm. (I traded in my Q2 for a Q3 at the Leica Store in Florence simply because they had one). The Leicas, along with my new iPhone 15 Pro Max, were all I needed to capture photos of Rome, the Cinque Terre, Florence, Perugia, and smaller towns. The iPhone handled video and shots wider than 28mm, while the M11 was used primarily for portraits and telephoto. The Q's took care of everything in between.
I have a M11, SL2S and Q3 - and over time, I must say that the Q3 and SL2S is getting more and more shooting time. The M11 is lovely, but nailing focus is getting harder and harder these days, and the SL2S is just so nice to use for tele and ultra wide. I even prefer shooting my M glass on the SL2S as it's just easier to focus! This is coming from some one who has been shooting film and digital M cameras for over 20 years. But chemistry is hard to define, but for me the Q3 is now my go to for travel, street and general photography, and the SL2S for specific applications e.g. sports, architecture etc.
Hello Johan - it sounds like (nailing focus getting harder... over 20 years) you are in your 40s/50s/60s vs. a lot of shooters who are in their 20s/30s and may not have started to experience the inevitable weakening of their vision. I am 70 and love photography as much as ever, but my vision is affecting my ability to focus. I have some amazing photo gear (Leica, Nikon Z9, tons of glass) but I am really looking at the Q3 as a next step for just the use cases you mentioned. I do shoot some very fast sports and will keep using the Z9 for that, but for my more artistic efforts (to the extent the word artistic can be applied to my simple shots), I am thinking the Q3 will be perfect. And I am hoping Leica do some firmware updates to address the issues that Gajan has mentioned.
M9 user with 55 years of M use. Had Q3 on order but changed to A7CR having several E mount lenses. Happy to have saved 3K, prefer shooting in the 35-85mm range.
I had the Q2, and loved it. I pre-ordered the Q3 on the day it was announced. It's my go to travel camera. I also have an M10, and an SL2. Of all of them the M10 gets the least attention, but I will not part with it. I think the Q bridges the gap between the M and SL system. It's a good compromise of both worlds. I actually use the video quite often on it. Not that I would intentionally use it for video over the SL2, but when I have it, it will be a better video option than my iPhone. I do also think it can't be overstated how good the lens on the Q is. It is one of the sharpest lenses that I have.
I wish that all RUclips reviewers were as knowledgeable detailed and level headed as you. What a welcome difference from the overhyped sensationalist bs that plagues YT. Well done sir‼️
Took my Q3 to Japan for 2 weeks, 4500 shots, and literally fell in love. The only thing I hate is that it switches to video when you have it on your chest sometimes, firmware should fix this in the future. Go get the Q3 and fall in love my friends!
Excellent explanations! I especially liked also the thoughts and image examples from Alam and Shivam. My personal reason to get the Q2 as an hobbyist was to have high-end image quality in a small package. For me it's the depth&rendering of the colors, but one might need to have good monitors/displays or printers to see the possible depth of color. When that comes together, it is magical. A lot of different styles and preferences can be realized with it, even though it is a fully digital camera, given that it has a great lens as an analog part, which is very important for the end result: light + lens + sensor + computation, all four must come together.
Probably one of the best and insightful reviews on RUclips. Great video Gajan! I have a Q2 and have been using it for about a year now. I do like how you mentioned chemistry in the camera kit. I have been shooting a lot of concert photography and while I have my Z8 cameras slinged around my shoulders, I also carry Q2 on neck strap. Being able to quickly snap candids Q2 while leaving my Z8s setup for video is very handy. As far as upgrades, while I do like some of the upgrades in the Q3, I still find it hard for me to justify the cost of switching to Q3 over my Q2. Maybe down the road I can justify it for business but currently I cant and my Q2 has been handling everything I’ve thrown at it.
I love the idea about the camera not holding you back. Thats why I love my A7R III so much. Its small, light and I typically just use a 35mm prime lens on it. I'm never thinking about the camera system, I set it to where I know its going to expose well every time and I just use it as a big point and shoot. This seems to be the same sort of concept
Selling off some of my Sony gear to get the Q3, I kept my A7r3 with some favorite glass. That camera had become my workhorse. Now, time flys by and still no Q3 in sight (now for various reason$) so I snatched up a Sony A7cR… wow.. it’s not perfect but with adapted M glass and that 61mp sensor, I’m not sure I’m getting that Q3.. but time will tell.
Gajan, your review was fantastic. The Q3 does seem like a solid camera, however, the experience and satisfaction derived from using the M system in photography is unparalleled.
Indeed M11 with M lenses is much better than Q. My only real issue and difficulty with M was focusing wide open say 1.4 managing to see the focus point on a rangefinder is damned hard. The EVF on the Q or even the heavier SL is much easier to nail focus even manually.
@@GajanBalanloved your Hasselblad X2D review. That would be my choice to step up from a Q or unless Leica make an M with an EVF!! For my style that’s what I’m waiting for. 100% manual focus with an EVF.
I've tried the Q3, A7III, Q2, X100V, also tried the latest A9 mark III. Although they are made for specific occasion, I still prefer the Q3. The vibe and look are just perfect for my aesthetic need. I've also used the Q3 for product photography and my client love them!
Nice review, but the bottom line for me is where would I put 6K. Buy an all in one camera and lens with limitations or buy a complete camera and lenses that can give me so much more versatility, reach, without compromises! Having the ability to use any lens I need and even switch bodies on upgrades at a cost of a fraction of what a new Q would cost! Now I’m sure a lot of people can afford both, but I’m not one of those lucky ones! 🖖
I had a Q2 Monochrome but sold it within a year. I'm happier with my M246 for various reasons including many you mention. Sometimes we need to stay with our roots even with the technology available these days, I honestly prefer the need to work a little at getting the results I'm after, especially the ability to switch out my focal lengths. With that said I still love my 65 year old M3 double stroke for the same reason!
I love the Q2 and will someday get the 3. It is so difficult to let go of decades of interchangeable lens cameras…but I think it is paid jobs vs personal use. Personally, I don’t want to carry more gear as I do on gigs. I agree on the need for internal ND!
Fantastic review! I appreciate that you obtained a conclusive answer regarding the lens. Down the line this camera will become a part of my kit. Thanks for sharing my photos! 🙏🏾
Finally someone called out that mindless saying that you're buying a lens and getting the camera for free. I have the Q2M and yeah it's nice, but I'm not for one second thinking I got some deal. It is what it is.
Always one of the best insights into photography and photography gear. I love it. The Q system is something I didn't think I needed but a 28mm on a M is just as easy to use. I think the best option for people who want a second body and a 28 is to get a used Q2. It will be much cheaper and still an amazing camera.
I’m on my second Q and for the reasons your guest photographers said. In my opinion Leica could strip out 2 or 3 features, charge less, and they could make a whole other segment. Remove video. Remove JPG. Even potentially remove Autofocus and I’m in 100%. RAW is the only way to shoot. Manual focus is amazing especially with its EVF. Video on this camera is redundant. It’s a stills monster. The 28mm is fine as there is plenty of high resolution cropable image to work with. It is the absolute best travel cam on the planet. M11 is better but focusing rangefinder fully open sucks. I agree with you, add a small built in flash. A 35mm version with say 2.4 would be very interesting. But remember this is Leica’s best selling cam ever. And it’s sold more Qs than all others combined. That’s saying something.
Great video once again! Thank you for this analysis which will surely help me in my choices. I'm in the middle of a professional reflection on the camera. I started at Q2 in 2019. Very quickly I discovered the SL2S. I sold my Q2 and acquired an M11. I fell in love with M. He helped me rediscover the art of photography. Despite everything, I succumbed to Q3 because I wanted to return to my first love but I am quite disappointed because as you say, I find it too “easy”. In fact I feel like I'm not doing anything anymore. Not to compose anything. That he doesn't need me... And when I have to shoot for my clients my SL2S and my M11 are enough for me. The Q becomes the emergency camera… I'm hesitant to return it. To stay focused on what is SL+M enough for me. Collecting camera is not a good solution either… I have a question if I may: what camera do you have as a backup when you work professionally? Thanks again for your video
Struggling to decide in advance what will be my retirement camera…been with Q2 for 2yrs at work. Canon and Sony for pro video, but love the minimalist aspect of Leica. Can’t see an M in the future, but the Q2 will be really old by the time I retire. But man…once you go Leica, nothing fills that feeling. As for video…I’m 30+ years into pro video career, I have no issue with secondary source audio. But…once I retire, my phone will be fine for video…I couldn’t care less about those specs.
What's so travel friendly and compact are Q camera that so many people say when the camera is not pant pocketable, still need to hang on neck and a bag to carry and not much different to other cameras sizes at all?
I owned the Q3. Loved the Q3. It is an amazing machine that inspires irrational affection. BUT . . . that lens is just too wide for me. Give me a Q3 with a genuine 40mm focal length and I might sell all my other camera gear to get one. (I went with a Sony a7Cii and 40mm f/2.5 G lens. It is perfect for me for street photography. But it's not a Leica Q.)
This is exactly the tradeoff that many of us are struggling with. The ability to crop is our rationalization to address this tradeoff. And in my case, keeping my amazing glass and other camera systems will help me get through it (oh, the humanity). But that does mean carrying at least two cameras.
Nice video. I find it interesting that all RUclipsrs call this a point and shoot camera because of it's fixed lens. There's nothing more point and shoot about this camera than a pro mirrorless camera except for the fact that... it's a fixed lens camera ...
That’s how the industry describes it as well. Fixed-lens solutions are seen/described as point-and-shoot because that’s how the average consumer is conditioned to understand them.
Great video. It’s so informative. I have been waiting several months for my q3 and it’s coming this week. I’m curious if most of your images in the video had a flash. The black and whites of people hanging out in a bar maybe, were amazing. The lighting was so lovely. Can you confirm if you were mainly using a flash. I also have an x100v and appreciate the size and on board flash. If you were getting some of those shots without a flash, it’s very encouraging.
@@GajanBalanreally appreciate your videos! You mentioned the use of “off camera flash “ with the Q3- would you please say more about this set up including which ones you might recommend? Also what kind of flash does the Q3 have on your video at 17: 58? Thanks you!!
@@irisz6731 For most of this video, I was using the new Profoto flash trigger (Seen in 17:58) and the Profoto A10. Plenty of power and the ability to operate wirelessly.
Hey Gajan, great review as always ! Thank you for sharing your "after hype" feedbacks, these are the best. By the way, I really enjoyed the talk about business and engineering decisions camera companies have ! 👍 Coming back to the cameras, I am in love with my M11 and the photographic experience of the M system in general ! Especially when I am shooting "alone", for street, landscapes, documentary etc. However, there is 1 point which is slowly leading me to the Q system as a secondary camera and it's when I am with family, kids and babies situations which of course happens a lot haha. Don't make me wrong, the M is also fantastic for capturing these moments, but too often I think more about "will I really have this shot with manual focus or is it better to keep the M in the bag right now..." or "do I really want to take the risk to take the M in my hand while there is one kid in my arms and 2 others playing with water beside" 😭 I mean, I often thought I should just take back a good old XPro 2 or something like that only for these situations, as of course, I reaaally don't need a 6k $ camera to do this. But man... it is so hard to look back once shooting with these Leica gems ! 😅 And I do believe the Leica App and the workflow it allows is way underrated because indeed, it is awesome !
My only complaint with the Q3 is that when shooting Raw the vignetting is extreme and it can't be completely removed in LRC so I have to crop whether I like it or not.
I've had my Q2 for over 18 months and it's been an amazing experience. I use it every day and not once have I regretted my purchase. You keep saying that the Q3 is a "point and shoot" camera. It isn't. Of course you can use it in that way but don't expect perfect results by shooting with everything in fully automatic mode. What's the point for such an expensive camera? And such a waste of potential! A Q can be a fully manual experience. I've never used my Q2 with everything set to automatic and never will. At some point you should be shooting in at least in a partial manual mode to have some control with what you're doing.
Isn’t that true of any camera these days? Can’t you just set it and forget it with a Sony, Canon, or Nikon? In fact, I would argue that the manual focus tab on the Q-series lenses encourages users to not use it as a point and shoot. It’s funny how people see the Q cameras as the “lesser Leica”. 🙄
Thanks. Great review and production. Hits the right questions and answers. Pro photographers will have their own reviews and needs analyses as you just did. For an amateur and enthusiast like me, your review was balanced and compelling. I can have quality and quickness, with upside to higher performance and experience, all within an expensively affordable product.
Leica Qs are firmly and squarely marketed at the people who use Fuji X100 series of cameras, but want something really upmarket and sophisticated. I also firmly believe that 24MP was the peak of what could be used with a manual focus rangefinder camera without the use of the LV, which would be defeating the whole point of buying a rangefinder. 47MP, 60MP etc, are just too much resolution for a manual focus camera. Leica Q addresses this problem, plus that Q2 and Q3 have IBIS. It is not for everyone, but if you could afford it, it is no brainer.
@@GajanBalan when Nikon D800 came out, everyone was talking about its 37 MP sensor. Soon after they started to complain that the results were not as sharp as they expected. It took a while for the penny to drop, that with a 37 MP sensor, you really have to hold the camera rock solid. Then, they all went for lenses with VR. M11 has a 60 MP sensor and range finder manual focusing. I leave you to decide if handholding it will give you any real benefit over a 24 MP sensor.
With moving subject Q is better. Street photo is a bit forgiving in nailing sharp focus but photographing pets and moving human portrait the Q is more effective I would say. M makes you harder to get a shot, which you enjoy and feel challenging and once you got it you feel rewarding but your subject or a model might need to work longer to wait for your challenging enjoyment. That’s why I perceived photos made with M is mostly stagnant subject or street and some scenes. Rarely you see toddlers running towards camera shot or some action shot. I mean I can nail sharp focus on my dachshund running towards me with my M240 and M10M at f1.4, but it requires 5 shots to get one sharp by not looking at the LCD and just laying my camera at ground level, sometimes need more than 5 attempts. With my Q2, a few shots is all it takes at f1.7 and for sure guarantee there’ll be a few is tack sharp.
I bought one at launch… then returned it promptly. As a M11M shooter, I was underwhelmed by the Q3. It didn’t feel special like my M11M. It was also too large to be an EDC; For that I carry a Ricoh GR III. I dislike the video quality from the Q3… granted, as a Red owner I have a pretty high bar. Build wise, the Q3 does not feel on the same level as my M11M. Honestly, I was disappointed. Looking back, I really don’t miss it. That said, great video!
I wonder what the margins on Leica cameras are, compared to the cameras they “compete” with. Sonys canons and Nikons are hand made too, so I wonder if a Leica costs more because they cost so much more to make or if they simply want to appear luxurious.
If I had to guess, I imagine the margins are higher but significantly so. The materials, low-automation, skilled labour based in Europe, and complexity of the nice products are what largely contribute to these prices.
@@GajanBalan I’d sold the Q2 as it was going down in value. Got an X100vi, and just didn’t get on with it all- I’d loved the V but after the Q2 I couldn’t adjust back. Sold the VI and ordered the Q3, which I’m so excited for
Since you use capture one, what type of files do you open in it? Because I face a problem with viewing the raw images with different extensions, didn’t try with a jpg/jpeg file until now, in fit mode even with choosing recommended settings the images are blurry despite while zooming in 100% where I can see the clear details.
I never really felt that Leica was pitching it as a point and shoot. They're pretty good at making cameras specific to a type of shooter. That's kinda their entire deal. The deliberately fantastic manual shooting experience. The tapering down of external controls except for those related to manual shooting. To me it feels like the pitch is "a leica, but with some creature comforts;" rather than "a point and shoot leica." Indeed, to use it as a point and shoot leaves a lot of quality and functionality behind. If theres one thing Leica doesn't do, it's encourage their base to compromise quality and- even more so- experience.
Couldn't agree with you more. I hate that "fixed lens camera" is so often viewed as "point and shoot" by camera reviewers. A Leica Q3 has all the functionality of any other high quality full-frame mirrorless camera ... except interchangeable lenses. "Point and shoot" doesn't even come close to doing the Q3 justice
This camera was made an extension to the smartphone experience which is point and shoot. From the lens perspective to the autofocus, the goal was to create something that was easy to use but had some Leica differentiators. This is not just me saying this, it’s from Leica themselves.
Fantastic review. I was fortunate enough to get mine shortly after release and have been enjoying it ever since. I definitely see the appeal of M cameras as well and miss having one but my budget doesn’t currently allow for one especially with my eye on a potential SL3 around the corner. I really hope Leica does release some firmware updates addressing some of the auto focusing issues that remain for iAF and the other types of tracking modes.
Gajan, could you explain a bit the technicality.? I am still puzzled while using DNG+JPG and exporting to phone, seeing only one file, while on sd there are two. Also would be lovely to apply the 'looks' in post, in app for example out of the dng. ( ricoh has it ). Thanks :-)
You may only see one file, but will have the option to choose the JPG or DNG when you tap to download the file. And yes, I hope they look to allow these looks to be applied at least as a curve in Fotos or Capture One.
Not sure I'd want a 5K+ camera for everyday/travel use. Much rather have something I don't have to be worried about in my pocket. Thats what I'm telling myself anyway.
I just sold my Leica Q3 two days ago. I have been Leica M users almost 10 years. My journey starts from M9, MM, M262, M10 and now M11. I also have experience with SL2-S. I love SL2-S very much but it is just too big and heavy for me so I sold it. I decide to add Q3 to my arsenal because I want to have a nice compact auto focus camera with images of Leica Look. But Q3 is not. I have Summicron 28mm f2 so I can compare iamge with Q3's 28mm f1.7. How Q3 render images is like Japanese camera with very sharp lens (I am also Sony user for my work). Why do I keep $6,000 camera that give me images like camera that is cheaper 3 times and comes with much better focus system. So my decision to sell Q3 is very easy.
@@gurugamer8632 Thanks. I shoot a lot of low light photos and have a chance to compare a7cii and A7cr. A7Cii is significantly better under low light condition. In case I need high resolution pictures, I already have Leica M11 60MP.
Finally really tested my Q3 in our recent London,Spain & France vacation ...brought the 7R5 just incase i needed more focal range.... in the end my 7R5 was in the hotel safe for the whole trip...just felt easier /more comfortable taking photos of strangers in street photograpy with the Q3
I sold my Q3 and would not recommend anyone purchase this camera mainly for 4 reasons. 1. This camera digitally crops its raw images causing a slight distortion in the corners-which affected corner sharpness so much that my Viltrox lens was sharper. 2. Jpegs are not good (vs the competition) on this camera- Say what you want about shooting jpeg, a point and shoot needs to have good Jpegs because I'm not trying to edit all my photos while traveling. 3. While seemly built like a tank, this camera feels a bit cheap- The OIS annoyingly rattles every time you move the camera and the lcd scratches easily. 4. Autofocus is below average- It's a sub 6k point and shoot, I expect at the very least average autofocus. Forget about value, all things equal (same photographer) most sub 3k camera combos (with lenses) would smoke this in terms of performance. I love Leica as a brand, but I honestly think they're really falling behind here. The only justification for owning this is wanting to shoot a Leica (which is fine), but they used to make class leading cameras. I think it's important to be honest about the shortcomings of this camera because Leica is at a tipping point where they need to do something different or they'll fall behind. You can already see it in the resale market.
I hear you, and some of the things you mentioned are definitely concerns for a type of photographer. Others are a subjective. The reality is that the camera is sold out everywhere you go. I’m currently in Mexico City and they cannot keep enough Q models in stock. Sure, it’s not for everyone. But Leica definitely knows what their customers appreciate and caters to that.
@@GajanBalan Yea I suppose Leica will continue to always have its following. I just personally don't like that they're heading down the direction of being more of a luxury brand than making the best cameras. It kind of feels like buying something from LV. You're getting something good but you're really paying through the nose for the branding.
Point and shoot!?! Are you kidding? Probably not, just looking for likes I guess? No respect here. Thumbs down, no subscribe,. You must like to hear yourself speak. Please block me.
Puh, I am so tired of all those q3 reviews popping up in my youtube ... I am sick everyone needs to have a talk about it ... sorry, I did not watch the video to the end ... but it was not any better than the rest of those videos
@@GajanBalan No really, I am over this topic. I have a q2 since 4 years and am super happy with it. Tried the q3 and was not happy with slower blackout than q2. This camera is super overhyped right now with reviews like yours
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It's important to be cautious about the Black Friday offer discussed by Gajan Balan in the video. The discount is specifically for new customers, and unfortunately, it doesn't apply to extending existing licenses at the discounted rate.
@@quentindescotte6037 It's for new and existing customers. If you're having trouble with your order, feel free to connect with the Capture One team and they can facilitate the order.
@@GajanBalan After contacting technical support, it turns out that the price is valid for existing customers but only for a new license. It is not possible to extend an existing license. The technical support is excellent, and I have been refunded.
I have a Q3 I love it and it's perfect for my interest in architecture and landscaping. I differ from the point-and-shoot comment. Any camera used fully automatic is a point-and-shoot. This camera gives you the opportunity to shoot manually and get amazing pictures.
Indeed - Pretty much never use full auto - mainly Aperture.
I got Q3, I love the user experience this beautiful objects brings every time I hold it.
I enjoyed your in-depth and frankly honest appraisal of the Leica Q3 and who might be the customer most likely to benefit from one. I am one of them. For my two-week family vacation to Italy this past October, I left my Canons at home and took the Q2 and the M11, along with my Voigländer 50mm APO Lanthar and Leica APO Telyt-M 135mm. (I traded in my Q2 for a Q3 at the Leica Store in Florence simply because they had one). The Leicas, along with my new iPhone 15 Pro Max, were all I needed to capture photos of Rome, the Cinque Terre, Florence, Perugia, and smaller towns. The iPhone handled video and shots wider than 28mm, while the M11 was used primarily for portraits and telephoto. The Q's took care of everything in between.
Bro your production value is so insane. Loved the interviews with the other photographers on the street. Great work!
Thank you so much brother, truly appreciate you sharing that 🙏🏾
I have a M11, SL2S and Q3 - and over time, I must say that the Q3 and SL2S is getting more and more shooting time. The M11 is lovely, but nailing focus is getting harder and harder these days, and the SL2S is just so nice to use for tele and ultra wide. I even prefer shooting my M glass on the SL2S as it's just easier to focus! This is coming from some one who has been shooting film and digital M cameras for over 20 years. But chemistry is hard to define, but for me the Q3 is now my go to for travel, street and general photography, and the SL2S for specific applications e.g. sports, architecture etc.
Hello Johan - it sounds like (nailing focus getting harder... over 20 years) you are in your 40s/50s/60s vs. a lot of shooters who are in their 20s/30s and may not have started to experience the inevitable weakening of their vision. I am 70 and love photography as much as ever, but my vision is affecting my ability to focus. I have some amazing photo gear (Leica, Nikon Z9, tons of glass) but I am really looking at the Q3 as a next step for just the use cases you mentioned. I do shoot some very fast sports and will keep using the Z9 for that, but for my more artistic efforts (to the extent the word artistic can be applied to my simple shots), I am thinking the Q3 will be perfect. And I am hoping Leica do some firmware updates to address the issues that Gajan has mentioned.
M9 user with 55 years of M use. Had Q3 on order but changed to A7CR having several E mount lenses. Happy to have saved 3K, prefer shooting in the 35-85mm range.
I sold my Q3 and get A7Cii. I am happy with my decision.
I had the Q2, and loved it. I pre-ordered the Q3 on the day it was announced. It's my go to travel camera. I also have an M10, and an SL2. Of all of them the M10 gets the least attention, but I will not part with it. I think the Q bridges the gap between the M and SL system. It's a good compromise of both worlds. I actually use the video quite often on it. Not that I would intentionally use it for video over the SL2, but when I have it, it will be a better video option than my iPhone. I do also think it can't be overstated how good the lens on the Q is. It is one of the sharpest lenses that I have.
Well said about bridging the M to SL gap. That's why I will be buying one (waiting for some firmware improvements from Leica).
Q3 is my first Leica and I am happy using it
You are the first person I've seen to actually explain the 28mm point - great review!
Thanks! I really wanted a definite answer to it.
I wish that all RUclips reviewers were as knowledgeable detailed and level headed as you. What a welcome difference from the overhyped sensationalist bs that plagues YT. Well done sir‼️
I loved that you asked q3 users for their opinions too. Very nice video.
Glad you liked it 🙏🏾
Took my Q3 to Japan for 2 weeks, 4500 shots, and literally fell in love. The only thing I hate is that it switches to video when you have it on your chest sometimes, firmware should fix this in the future. Go get the Q3 and fall in love my friends!
Nice!
Excellent explanations! I especially liked also the thoughts and image examples from Alam and Shivam. My personal reason to get the Q2 as an hobbyist was to have high-end image quality in a small package. For me it's the depth&rendering of the colors, but one might need to have good monitors/displays or printers to see the possible depth of color. When that comes together, it is magical. A lot of different styles and preferences can be realized with it, even though it is a fully digital camera, given that it has a great lens as an analog part, which is very important for the end result: light + lens + sensor + computation, all four must come together.
Probably one of the best and insightful reviews on RUclips. Great video Gajan! I have a Q2 and have been using it for about a year now. I do like how you mentioned chemistry in the camera kit. I have been shooting a lot of concert photography and while I have my Z8 cameras slinged around my shoulders, I also carry Q2 on neck strap. Being able to quickly snap candids Q2 while leaving my Z8s setup for video is very handy. As far as upgrades, while I do like some of the upgrades in the Q3, I still find it hard for me to justify the cost of switching to Q3 over my Q2. Maybe down the road I can justify it for business but currently I cant and my Q2 has been handling everything I’ve thrown at it.
Thanks! That experience in concerts is a place where a camera like this really shines. Enjoy!
the Leica q3 is the gateway drug to the m11.
I love the idea about the camera not holding you back. Thats why I love my A7R III so much. Its small, light and I typically just use a 35mm prime lens on it. I'm never thinking about the camera system, I set it to where I know its going to expose well every time and I just use it as a big point and shoot. This seems to be the same sort of concept
Selling off some of my Sony gear to get the Q3, I kept my A7r3 with some favorite glass. That camera had become my workhorse. Now, time flys by and still no Q3 in sight (now for various reason$) so I snatched up a Sony A7cR… wow.. it’s not perfect but with adapted M glass and that 61mp sensor, I’m not sure I’m getting that Q3.. but time will tell.
@@geogu3imageswhat do you mean？ is q3 better than sony ？
Your M11 and Q3 reviews are top shelf - super helpful, good insights, all gained from real hands on use. I appreciate your approach - BRAVO.
Thank you, truly appreciate that ✌🏾
Gajan, your review was fantastic. The Q3 does seem like a solid camera, however, the experience and satisfaction derived from using the M system in photography is unparalleled.
Right there with you ✌🏾
Indeed M11 with M lenses is much better than Q. My only real issue and difficulty with M was focusing wide open say 1.4 managing to see the focus point on a rangefinder is damned hard. The EVF on the Q or even the heavier SL is much easier to nail focus even manually.
@@GajanBalanloved your Hasselblad X2D review. That would be my choice to step up from a Q or unless Leica make an M with an EVF!! For my style that’s what I’m waiting for. 100% manual focus with an EVF.
Just got back from Portugal, and the Leica store in Porto had the Q3 in stock. And no US taxes! (I just walked out w/ my SL2...)
I've tried the Q3, A7III, Q2, X100V, also tried the latest A9 mark III. Although they are made for specific occasion, I still prefer the Q3. The vibe and look are just perfect for my aesthetic need. I've also used the Q3 for product photography and my client love them!
Nice ✌🏾
I just saw your review for the first time, and you got so much points covered. Very good!
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
Nice review, but the bottom line for me is where would I put 6K. Buy an all in one camera and lens with limitations or buy a complete camera and lenses that can give me so much more versatility, reach, without compromises! Having the ability to use any lens I need and even switch bodies on upgrades at a cost of a fraction of what a new Q would cost!
Now I’m sure a lot of people can afford both, but I’m not one of those lucky ones! 🖖
I had a Q2 Monochrome but sold it within a year. I'm happier with my M246 for various reasons including many you mention. Sometimes we need to stay with our roots even with the technology available these days, I honestly prefer the need to work a little at getting the results I'm after, especially the ability to switch out my focal lengths. With that said I still love my 65 year old M3 double stroke for the same reason!
I love the Q2 and will someday get the 3. It is so difficult to let go of decades of interchangeable lens cameras…but I think it is paid jobs vs personal use. Personally, I don’t want to carry more gear as I do on gigs. I agree on the need for internal ND!
Fantastic review! I appreciate that you obtained a conclusive answer regarding the lens. Down the line this camera will become a part of my kit.
Thanks for sharing my photos! 🙏🏾
Appreciate your help too brother, really made this review possible. 🙏🏾
Luv the way you explain things in such a fair an positve way.....
Finally someone called out that mindless saying that you're buying a lens and getting the camera for free. I have the Q2M and yeah it's nice, but I'm not for one second thinking I got some deal. It is what it is.
Always one of the best insights into photography and photography gear. I love it. The Q system is something I didn't think I needed but a 28mm on a M is just as easy to use. I think the best option for people who want a second body and a 28 is to get a used Q2. It will be much cheaper and still an amazing camera.
Thank you brother. Truly appreciate the support 🙏🏾
Well that's a proper review of an expensive camera. Thank you!
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
Best review and most interesting insights on the web ,Thank you.
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
I’m on my second Q and for the reasons your guest photographers said. In my opinion Leica could strip out 2 or 3 features, charge less, and they could make a whole other segment. Remove video. Remove JPG. Even potentially remove Autofocus and I’m in 100%. RAW is the only way to shoot. Manual focus is amazing especially with its EVF. Video on this camera is redundant. It’s a stills monster. The 28mm is fine as there is plenty of high resolution cropable image to work with. It is the absolute best travel cam on the planet. M11 is better but focusing rangefinder fully open sucks. I agree with you, add a small built in flash. A 35mm version with say 2.4 would be very interesting. But remember this is Leica’s best selling cam ever. And it’s sold more Qs than all others combined. That’s saying something.
Great video once again! Thank you for this analysis which will surely help me in my choices.
I'm in the middle of a professional reflection on the camera. I started at Q2 in 2019. Very quickly I discovered the SL2S. I sold my Q2 and acquired an M11. I fell in love with M. He helped me rediscover the art of photography.
Despite everything, I succumbed to Q3 because I wanted to return to my first love but I am quite disappointed because as you say, I find it too “easy”. In fact I feel like I'm not doing anything anymore. Not to compose anything. That he doesn't need me... And when I have to shoot for my clients my SL2S and my M11 are enough for me. The Q becomes the emergency camera…
I'm hesitant to return it. To stay focused on what is SL+M enough for me. Collecting camera is not a good solution either…
I have a question if I may: what camera do you have as a backup when you work professionally?
Thanks again for your video
That was really good! Thank you! I love me Q3!
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
Production quality is top-tier 🔥
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Probably a higher shutter count on mine in three months than I got from my phone in over two years. Great review mate. As always.
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
Struggling to decide in advance what will be my retirement camera…been with Q2 for 2yrs at work. Canon and Sony for pro video, but love the minimalist aspect of Leica. Can’t see an M in the future, but the Q2 will be really old by the time I retire. But man…once you go Leica, nothing fills that feeling. As for video…I’m 30+ years into pro video career, I have no issue with secondary source audio. But…once I retire, my phone will be fine for video…I couldn’t care less about those specs.
What's so travel friendly and compact are Q camera that so many people say when the camera is not pant pocketable, still need to hang on neck and a bag to carry and not much different to other cameras sizes at all?
I owned the Q3. Loved the Q3. It is an amazing machine that inspires irrational affection. BUT . . . that lens is just too wide for me. Give me a Q3 with a genuine 40mm focal length and I might sell all my other camera gear to get one. (I went with a Sony a7Cii and 40mm f/2.5 G lens. It is perfect for me for street photography. But it's not a Leica Q.)
This is exactly the tradeoff that many of us are struggling with. The ability to crop is our rationalization to address this tradeoff. And in my case, keeping my amazing glass and other camera systems will help me get through it (oh, the humanity). But that does mean carrying at least two cameras.
How do you like it for video? Also vs the 43 version ?
That is an absolutely brilliant review. Thanks for a tremendous effort.
Thanks for watching 🙏🏾
Great report Gajan ! I already have Capture One Pro so maybe I can probably get a personal (photo)date with you 😅greetings from the Netherlands
Tested this against 24 and 28 on my M11 at infinity and found it somewhere in between. Not a big deal for me, love the lens.
So are you saying that it can be wider than 28mm?
That is even better!
Nice video. I find it interesting that all RUclipsrs call this a point and shoot camera because of it's fixed lens. There's nothing more point and shoot about this camera than a pro mirrorless camera except for the fact that... it's a fixed lens camera ...
That’s how the industry describes it as well. Fixed-lens solutions are seen/described as point-and-shoot because that’s how the average consumer is conditioned to understand them.
Great video. It’s so informative. I have been waiting several months for my q3 and it’s coming this week. I’m curious if most of your images in the video had a flash. The black and whites of people hanging out in a bar maybe, were amazing. The lighting was so lovely. Can you confirm if you were mainly using a flash. I also have an x100v and appreciate the size and on board flash. If you were getting some of those shots without a flash, it’s very encouraging.
Yep, many of them were captured with a flash. And congrats! Enjoy the new camera.
@@GajanBalanreally appreciate your videos! You mentioned the use of “off camera flash “ with the Q3- would you please say more about this set up including which ones you might recommend?
Also what kind of flash does the Q3 have on your video at 17: 58?
Thanks you!!
@@irisz6731 For most of this video, I was using the new Profoto flash trigger (Seen in 17:58) and the Profoto A10. Plenty of power and the ability to operate wirelessly.
Thank you sir! 🙏🏼🤩
I love my Q2. Great video!
Hey Gajan, great review as always ! Thank you for sharing your "after hype" feedbacks, these are the best.
By the way, I really enjoyed the talk about business and engineering decisions camera companies have ! 👍
Coming back to the cameras, I am in love with my M11 and the photographic experience of the M system in general ! Especially when I am shooting "alone", for street, landscapes, documentary etc.
However, there is 1 point which is slowly leading me to the Q system as a secondary camera and it's when I am with family, kids and babies situations which of course happens a lot haha.
Don't make me wrong, the M is also fantastic for capturing these moments, but too often I think more about "will I really have this shot with manual focus or is it better to keep the M in the bag right now..." or "do I really want to take the risk to take the M in my hand while there is one kid in my arms and 2 others playing with water beside" 😭
I mean, I often thought I should just take back a good old XPro 2 or something like that only for these situations, as of course, I reaaally don't need a 6k $ camera to do this. But man... it is so hard to look back once shooting with these Leica gems ! 😅 And I do believe the Leica App and the workflow it allows is way underrated because indeed, it is awesome !
My only complaint with the Q3 is that when shooting Raw the vignetting is extreme and it can't be completely removed in LRC so I have to crop whether I like it or not.
Nice job! Thank you …
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
I have a Q2 Monochrom and a M10 (and a lot of lenses) now. Considering trading the M10 for the Q3.
I've had my Q2 for over 18 months and it's been an amazing experience. I use it every day and not once have I regretted my purchase. You keep saying that the Q3 is a "point and shoot" camera. It isn't. Of course you can use it in that way but don't expect perfect results by shooting with everything in fully automatic mode. What's the point for such an expensive camera? And such a waste of potential! A Q can be a fully manual experience. I've never used my Q2 with everything set to automatic and never will. At some point you should be shooting in at least in a partial manual mode to have some control with what you're doing.
You’re right, but that’s the pitch. You *can* use it that way but the fun happens when you start to take over some of the controls.
Isn’t that true of any camera these days? Can’t you just set it and forget it with a Sony, Canon, or Nikon? In fact, I would argue that the manual focus tab on the Q-series lenses encourages users to not use it as a point and shoot. It’s funny how people see the Q cameras as the “lesser Leica”. 🙄
What a great review. I've had my Q3 for 6 weeks now and have left my Z9 behind. Where you talking about the tracking focus mode?
I own the Z9 and use the Z26mm f2.8 pancake lens on it. I’m considering buying the Leica Q3
How would you compare it to the X100V? The X100V and its ND filter comes in clutch for street photography
Thanks. Great review and production. Hits the right questions and answers. Pro photographers will have their own reviews and needs analyses as you just did. For an amateur and enthusiast like me, your review was balanced and compelling. I can have quality and quickness, with upside to higher performance and experience, all within an expensively affordable product.
Leica Qs are firmly and squarely marketed at the people who use Fuji X100 series of cameras, but want something really upmarket and sophisticated. I also firmly believe that 24MP was the peak of what could be used with a manual focus rangefinder camera without the use of the LV, which would be defeating the whole point of buying a rangefinder. 47MP, 60MP etc, are just too much resolution for a manual focus camera. Leica Q addresses this problem, plus that Q2 and Q3 have IBIS. It is not for everyone, but if you could afford it, it is no brainer.
I don’t agree, but interesting points. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
@@GajanBalan when Nikon D800 came out, everyone was talking about its 37 MP sensor. Soon after they started to complain that the results were not as sharp as they expected. It took a while for the penny to drop, that with a 37 MP sensor, you really have to hold the camera rock solid. Then, they all went for lenses with VR. M11 has a 60 MP sensor and range finder manual focusing. I leave you to decide if handholding it will give you any real benefit over a 24 MP sensor.
What does the clutch do in this camera?
With moving subject Q is better. Street photo is a bit forgiving in nailing sharp focus but photographing pets and moving human portrait the Q is more effective I would say. M makes you harder to get a shot, which you enjoy and feel challenging and once you got it you feel rewarding but your subject or a model might need to work longer to wait for your challenging enjoyment. That’s why I perceived photos made with M is mostly stagnant subject or street and some scenes. Rarely you see toddlers running towards camera shot or some action shot. I mean I can nail sharp focus on my dachshund running towards me with my M240 and M10M at f1.4, but it requires 5 shots to get one sharp by not looking at the LCD and just laying my camera at ground level, sometimes need more than 5 attempts. With my Q2, a few shots is all it takes at f1.7 and for sure guarantee there’ll be a few is tack sharp.
I bought one at launch… then returned it promptly. As a M11M shooter, I was underwhelmed by the Q3. It didn’t feel special like my M11M. It was also too large to be an EDC; For that I carry a Ricoh GR III.
I dislike the video quality from the Q3… granted, as a Red owner I have a pretty high bar.
Build wise, the Q3 does not feel on the same level as my M11M. Honestly, I was disappointed.
Looking back, I really don’t miss it.
That said, great video!
I wonder what the margins on Leica cameras are, compared to the cameras they “compete” with. Sonys canons and Nikons are hand made too, so I wonder if a Leica costs more because they cost so much more to make or if they simply want to appear luxurious.
If I had to guess, I imagine the margins are higher but significantly so. The materials, low-automation, skilled labour based in Europe, and complexity of the nice products are what largely contribute to these prices.
What do you get with a Leica Q3 that you cannot get with the lates Apple iPhone at much lower price?
You reference in the customer section the Q3 relative to ASP-C cameras. The Q series, of course, is not in that category.
It’s not. I included it to answer whether there’s a noticeable difference in the files between the two sensors.
@@GajanBalan Thx. I need to pay closer attention before I comment. I always like your content.
Great video as always. I still have the Q2. Love it
Nice! Thanks for watching ✌🏾
@@GajanBalan and the Q3 arrives tomorrow.
@@MurrayMcMillan73 Haha, congrats! Enjoy the journey ✌🏾
@@GajanBalan I’d sold the Q2 as it was going down in value. Got an X100vi, and just didn’t get on with it all- I’d loved the V but after the Q2 I couldn’t adjust back. Sold the VI and ordered the Q3, which I’m so excited for
Since you use capture one, what type of files do you open in it? Because I face a problem with viewing the raw images with different extensions, didn’t try with a jpg/jpeg file until now, in fit mode even with choosing recommended settings the images are blurry despite while zooming in 100% where I can see the clear details.
I never really felt that Leica was pitching it as a point and shoot. They're pretty good at making cameras specific to a type of shooter. That's kinda their entire deal. The deliberately fantastic manual shooting experience. The tapering down of external controls except for those related to manual shooting. To me it feels like the pitch is "a leica, but with some creature comforts;" rather than "a point and shoot leica." Indeed, to use it as a point and shoot leaves a lot of quality and functionality behind. If theres one thing Leica doesn't do, it's encourage their base to compromise quality and- even more so- experience.
Couldn't agree with you more. I hate that "fixed lens camera" is so often viewed as "point and shoot" by camera reviewers. A Leica Q3 has all the functionality of any other high quality full-frame mirrorless camera ... except interchangeable lenses. "Point and shoot" doesn't even come close to doing the Q3 justice
This camera was made an extension to the smartphone experience which is point and shoot. From the lens perspective to the autofocus, the goal was to create something that was easy to use but had some Leica differentiators. This is not just me saying this, it’s from Leica themselves.
Yo this review slaps
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
Fantastic review. I was fortunate enough to get mine shortly after release and have been enjoying it ever since. I definitely see the appeal of M cameras as well and miss having one but my budget doesn’t currently allow for one especially with my eye on a potential SL3 around the corner.
I really hope Leica does release some firmware updates addressing some of the auto focusing issues that remain for iAF and the other types of tracking modes.
Well said, thank for sharing. Enjoy the journey 📸
Gajan, could you explain a bit the technicality.? I am still puzzled while using DNG+JPG and exporting to phone, seeing only one file, while on sd there are two. Also would be lovely to apply the 'looks' in post, in app for example out of the dng. ( ricoh has it ). Thanks :-)
You may only see one file, but will have the option to choose the JPG or DNG when you tap to download the file.
And yes, I hope they look to allow these looks to be applied at least as a curve in Fotos or Capture One.
Used the C1 link with your code but did not receive the preset pack for free with my order … 🙁
Send me a DM on instagram and we’ll get you sorted @GajanBalan
Great views
Thanks for watching brother ✌🏾
Where did you buy the lens hood?
Q3 comes with this lens hood
Not sure I'd want a 5K+ camera for everyday/travel use. Much rather have something I don't have to be worried about in my pocket. Thats what I'm telling myself anyway.
That’s fair.
The three and half plus second start up is a killer for me. Really halted my purchase.
Wow didn’t know it was so slow, funny considering new Sony bodies start up instantly and this is a rehoused sony sensor.
@@definingslawek4731 I found it very surprising, hopes there is a firmware update at some point but that's far too slow for the type of stuff I shoot.
Put it in 30s power down, leave it on. Tap the shutter as you are thinking you might want to use it…it’ll be there for you.
@@soissle there is always a work around granted. For five and half a grand I shouldn't need to work around much. Not when my Q2 is quicker mate.
I just sold my Leica Q3 two days ago. I have been Leica M users almost 10 years. My journey starts from M9, MM, M262, M10 and now M11. I also have experience with SL2-S. I love SL2-S very much but it is just too big and heavy for me so I sold it. I decide to add Q3 to my arsenal because I want to have a nice compact auto focus camera with images of Leica Look. But Q3 is not. I have Summicron 28mm f2 so I can compare iamge with Q3's 28mm f1.7. How Q3 render images is like Japanese camera with very sharp lens (I am also Sony user for my work). Why do I keep $6,000 camera that give me images like camera that is cheaper 3 times and comes with much better focus system. So my decision to sell Q3 is very easy.
What sony camera are you using ?
@@neerajnongmaithem392 Now my cameras are Leica M11 and Sony A7Cii.
@@thanyawonga7CII not good, a7RV better
@@gurugamer8632 Thanks. I shoot a lot of low light photos and have a chance to compare a7cii and A7cr. A7Cii is significantly better under low light condition. In case I need high resolution pictures, I already have Leica M11 60MP.
Any digital camera these days is basically the same 😅, they all produce boring clinical images
People want a real Leica with a real Leica lens. For $6000, all things considered, it’s a pretty good deal! Even if Panasonic did the electronics.
Been on the waiting list since it launched and there’s no sign of it coming into stock 🏴☹️
It’s so tough to predict. Good luck!
has anybody here figured out how to set the Q3 up, so that AE is not locked via shutter button half press in AF/S mode ( p.117 Q3 manual )
It’s made for those who can afford the pleasure of owning one.
I wish I had an extra organ to sell for Leica!
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I can confirm the toddler thing 🙂
Haha, an exclusive club 😂
I just love my Q. I see no reason to “upgrade.”
I would love an M where the EV is replaced with an EV.
Finally really tested my Q3 in our recent London,Spain & France vacation ...brought the 7R5 just incase i needed more focal range.... in the end my 7R5 was in the hotel safe for the whole trip...just felt easier /more comfortable taking photos of strangers in street photograpy with the Q3
Great example of product-market fit. Hope you had fun ✌🏾
RX1RII just saying ...
I’ve asked multiple engineers at Sony to bring that back. I think there’s a good chance we see that line come back.
@@GajanBalan that would be awesome!
Quick answer. For rich people.
Z8 plus a couple of fast lenses… doesn’t get quite so much “rich people” ire. It’s a lot, but it IS a lot of camera (especially the more you use it).
I use it as a door stop...I am rich and wasteful
5 head
Leica will never fit my budget so I don't care what they do:)
I sold my Q3 and would not recommend anyone purchase this camera mainly for 4 reasons. 1. This camera digitally crops its raw images causing a slight distortion in the corners-which affected corner sharpness so much that my Viltrox lens was sharper. 2. Jpegs are not good (vs the competition) on this camera- Say what you want about shooting jpeg, a point and shoot needs to have good Jpegs because I'm not trying to edit all my photos while traveling. 3. While seemly built like a tank, this camera feels a bit cheap- The OIS annoyingly rattles every time you move the camera and the lcd scratches easily. 4. Autofocus is below average- It's a sub 6k point and shoot, I expect at the very least average autofocus.
Forget about value, all things equal (same photographer) most sub 3k camera combos (with lenses) would smoke this in terms of performance. I love Leica as a brand, but I honestly think they're really falling behind here. The only justification for owning this is wanting to shoot a Leica (which is fine), but they used to make class leading cameras.
I think it's important to be honest about the shortcomings of this camera because Leica is at a tipping point where they need to do something different or they'll fall behind. You can already see it in the resale market.
I hear you, and some of the things you mentioned are definitely concerns for a type of photographer. Others are a subjective.
The reality is that the camera is sold out everywhere you go. I’m currently in Mexico City and they cannot keep enough Q models in stock. Sure, it’s not for everyone. But Leica definitely knows what their customers appreciate and caters to that.
@@GajanBalan Yea I suppose Leica will continue to always have its following. I just personally don't like that they're heading down the direction of being more of a luxury brand than making the best cameras.
It kind of feels like buying something from LV. You're getting something good but you're really paying through the nose for the branding.
Less talk & more examples
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Firstly, someone who thinks nothing about spending $7000 on a not-so-compact camera 😊
Try harder, I believe in you.
It's made for Chads.
Username checks out
JPEGs? Nooooooooo
These conversations are just useless. You can turn an M11 in a Q3 but you can’t turn a Q3 in an M11…
Wait, you found a way to add autofocus, leaf shutter, and video to the M11? Do share.
Are the images $6000 dollars worth? Just curious
Depends on who you’re asking.
In your opinion
Point and shoot!?! Are you kidding? Probably not, just looking for likes I guess? No respect here. Thumbs down, no subscribe,. You must like to hear yourself speak. Please block me.
Thanks for watching 😂
Puh, I am so tired of all those q3 reviews popping up in my youtube ... I am sick everyone needs to have a talk about it ... sorry, I did not watch the video to the end ... but it was not any better than the rest of those videos
“I’m so tired of Q3 reviews” he said as he watched the next Q3 review 🤣
@@GajanBalan exactly ^^
@@GajanBalan No really, I am over this topic. I have a q2 since 4 years and am super happy with it. Tried the q3 and was not happy with slower blackout than q2. This camera is super overhyped right now with reviews like yours
Latest iPhone cameras will do most of what Leica Q3 does at a fraction of a price
Except you can crop the images with the Leica and still have enough resolution