Keep it and have all of South America call you "imperialist" . Also and most important it is 100% not defensible. If Panamanian Nationalists decided to attack ships passing thru there is not a damned thing American military could do to stop it.
Carter understood that the Panama Canal was not a military asset anymore. It was built in 1914 and was too small. Panama spent billions making it meet 21st century needs. Bigger US navy ships can transit in expedited transit. It is 100% controlled by Panama. Trump lies.
Forgot to mention Panama was a territory of Colombia and the US helped them get their independence. Panama is the Dubai of Latin America thanks to the US.
@@Anayansi958 But without the intervention of the US the independence movement would had been dead on arrival, must likely. Colombia wasn't willing to let the isthmus go
Yes we helped them get their independence because Columbia did not want to give USA permission to build a canal and the revolutionaries were willing to trade a 100 year treaty with USA .
The problem is that the canal is running out of water to fill the locks. This is causing traffic to back up. This situation will only continue to worsen unless someone is willing to make major infrastructure changes. That will cost money and Panama doesn't have it.
The 'sales treaty(?)' gave the USA's ships first passage rights when they show up (both commercial and military). But even then the Chinese could just disable or even sink a ship in the canal locks to block them off (both east and west bound traffic).
They own two major ports on both sides. They could blow them out if they ever decide to go through with their invasion. Then navy ships would have to travel all the way around the continent
@@EricdeBerea China controls Panamanian ports on both ends of the canal. ALL Chinese companies are under the ultimate control of the CCP and PLAN. The Chinese ports and PLAN could undertake all kinds of mischief to deny access during a crisis.
It was, in fact, the other way around. The US wasn't all that until the Canal. Panama always did, we just had Colombia not allowing us to go our separate ways. Panama would've built the Panama Canal sooner or later, US or not. It was a matter of time. We're possibly the only other country, besides Israel, that can say "No" to Americans.
I’m right there with you. I remember when he did it and it was infuriating. We paid for it, both for the land and with thousands of lives building it, and then that weak moron Carter gave it away.
Since the 1970's the United States had international pressure with the situation of the Canal, in fact, in the United Nations Security Council their were literaly NO VOTE in favor of the United States surrounding the Panama Canal Situation. In fact, EVEN U.S. Allies prefered not to support the United States such as the United Kingdom.
@@pvdppvdp6638 Wrong. The USA possessed the Panama canal "in perpetuity": "In 1904, the Isthmian Canal Convention was proclaimed. In it, the Republic of Panama granted to the United States in perpetuity the use, occupation, and control of a zone of land and land underwater for the construction, maintenance, operation, sanitation, and protection of the canal." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone#:~:text=In%201904%2C%20the%20Isthmian%20Canal,and%20protection%20of%20the%20canal.
@@barryfletcher7136NONE of it says "Property" of the Canal. In fact, FOR YEARS the idea of "ownership" of the Canal was a matter of discussion that ended up in the U.S. paying Panama money for the operations of the Canal.
Their was international pressure in the 70's to hand it, including U.S. Allies abstained from defending the United States with the Canal. What does the United States could do?
When Carter stupidly gave the canal to Panama, it did come with conditions. If those conditions are violated (like China running Canal operations instead of Panama), then the Canal goes back to the USA. So, we don't have to buy it. It would legally be ours.
Canal Zone brat here - Gatun represent! I think military force would be crazy but I want it back. The US didn’t give it ‘back.’ It was ours. Jimmy Carter was unwise to sign the treaty.
We created Panama from Columbia. Panama would not exist at all if not for the USA. We should take it back, fairly pay Panama for it but let's not pretend they have a choice.
@@Anayansi958 The statement is partially incorrect. While the region now known as Panama was inhabited by indigenous peoples long before Spanish arrival, Panama as a political entity did not exist before Spanish colonization. It was part of the Spanish Empire until 1821, when it gained independence from Spain and voluntarily joined Gran Colombia. Panama did not become fully independent as its own nation until 1903, when it separated from Colombia.
@ Panamá may not have existed as a Western political entity, but its name and territory with the mission of being a transit isthmus and melting pot did exist since pre Colonial times. Panama could have become independent in 1902 if the US wouldn’t have helped Colombia at the time.
@@Anayansi958 While it's true that Panama's geographic role as a transit isthmus and cultural crossroads existed long before European colonization, the formation of Panama as a modern, independent nation was heavily influenced by U.S. intervention. If the U.S. had never pursued the Panama Canal, the likelihood of Panama becoming an independent nation in the early 20th century would have been very low. At the time, Panama was a remote province of Colombia with limited resources and little political leverage to successfully push for independence on its own. Previous independence attempts had failed due to a lack of external support and Colombia's military control. The U.S. had a direct and strategic interest in separating Panama from Colombia to build and control the canal. Without that motivation, there would have been no U.S. naval blockade to stop Colombian forces, no financial or political backing for revolutionaries, and no international pressure on Colombia to let Panama go. Panama might have eventually gained independence, but it likely would have taken much longer and under very different circumstances-possibly as part of broader regional movements or internal Colombian political shifts. The decisive and swift independence Panama achieved in 1903 was almost entirely due to U.S. intervention.
"China is operating the Panama Canal and we didn't give it to China, we gave it to Panama and we're taking it back." ~President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20th 2025
You’re just as ignorant as your President. He say disinformation because it’s people like you listening to propaganda.. Then you vote… then he screw you over
Take the Canal back immediately; don’t think twice about it. Make an appropriate consideration to Panama. The “Peanut Farmer” screwed up a lot of things.
I am Panamanian. In Panama they instill in us that our most important natural resource is simply our geographical position. Other countries have minerals or oil. Panama has an unmatched, enviable and inalienable position. Destiny put us here and we are the custodians of this point. We are the nation of the isthmus. For this reason, there is no proposal that any power, today or tomorrow, can offer so that we Panamanians, voluntarily and as a national group, can give them control of the canal. Where the powers have nuclear weapons, we are simply here. The biggest weakness is that a ship sunk in the narrowest part (the culebra cut) ruins the entire operation. Remember what happened to the Suez Canal? Well like that - indefinitely. Making it obsolete is our weapon. As for the security of the canal, everyone passes through the canal. It is better that it stays in Panamanian hands because we are destined for neutrality. What the "professor" said is bogus. Our neutrality treaty force us to allow everyone to pass through, even Russian warships. If the US took over, it would be an easy target for its enemies since the US is the #1 user. It is known that Osama Bin Laden considered attacking the Panama Canal to hurt the United States, but decided to focus on the twin towers of NYC, the Pentagon, and the White House. However, if the Panama Canal remains with Panama as a neutral country, there would be an understanding (which, although it could be broken) would be seen as an attack on a third nation and not a legitimate objective, thereby allowing the transit of ships, even when their countries could be at war with each other. In summary, the math ain't mathing for the US to get back on track in any way. The Panama Canal belongs to Panama or there is no canal. Also, has anyone stopped to think why Jimmy Carter and 68 US Senators (only needed 66) voted in favor of the treaty? Think about it. Learn more. It has a lot to do with what I just described here.
It's all BS. The US is just creating a problem where there is none The US broke off diplomatic relations with Taiwan in the 1960s and now that Panama has done it, it's an issue. GTFO
Several illegal immigrants that I spoke with said they witnessed dozens of Chinese tanks and troops while traveling on foot to the US months ago. I live in a border city to MX.
If Military or Economic force is used anywhere on this planet to force any issue , you just validated the Russian occupation of Ukraine... Can the US go and grab Cyprus from Greece or Turkey on the pretext that they need it for "vital" national interest ...??? And on that note , can Russia reclaim the State of Alaska on the gounds of vital national interest.. ??? Pure Nonsense...😂😂
NEWLY INDEPENDENT PANAMA!!! I grew up there in the 60's and 70's and know a little. No one in that part of Columbia was looking for independence until the OSS showed up!!😂😂😂😂😂
The Panama Canal was built in 1914, which makes it a relic. In fact, it is an old structure that has become too small for the size of the ships that are built today. If Trump wants to get his Canal back, he would have to reclaim that old canal built in 1914, not the third set of locks built with Panamanian taxes in 2016. Panamanians expanded the canal to allow larger ships to pass, and in fact most of the traffic goes through that new structure. The current Panama Canal is not the same as in 1914. Most of the human lives lost in the construction of the canal were not Americans, but West Indians that the Americans themselves brought to do the hard work for them. Most of the workers were black, from countries like Martinique, Jamaica, Trinidad...
Greetings from Panamá the canal has a neutrality treaty ratified by many countries but not China. The Balboa port on the Pacific and the Cristobal port in Caribean side where operated by The Panamá canal company and when the canal was given to Panamá it was operated by The A.P.N. Panamá port authority , the ports where out dated with no container handling facilities there fore these two ports that are strategically located had to be modernized to handle containerized cargo and Panamá didn't have the money so the ports where put up for bid. Sealand (u.s. ) came in second and Hutchington wapoa from HongKong won the bid. Hutchinson was a Brittish company until the turn over of HongKong to China. Concerning the Panamá canal rates all ships pay the same and these rates are agreed between the users and the canal authority not unilaterally. If the u.s. wanted a better rate they had the opportunity to negotiate this in the orijinal treaty that gave the canal to Panamá as it was negotiated to give u.s. navy ships preferential transits.Finally Panamá has operated the canal very well and even made it bigger with the new locks for bigger ships. Let's talk the truth the average Panamanian is very proud of the canal and the way we have operated it for the past 25 years so I would say the only way the u.s. Will get it back would be a military invasion and thats a terrible move specially by all the countries that cosigned Panama's neutrality treaty.
This video lacks the information that Panamanians paid 5.5 billion dollars from their taxes to expand the canal and finish the expansion in 2016 to produce thos 2.5 billions per year. That canal has the core of the traffic. Also lacks the information that Panama fix the price by size and type of the cargo, it has nothing to do with origin or destination country. It also lacks the information that there is a Neutral Treaty were Panama commits to treat all countries equal. This video also lacks that Panama a long term ally of the U.S. is the only country that took steps in contain the Venezuelan inmigration through Darien Jungle costing Panamanians millions of dollars. Feels like our friend is stabbing our backs, that is how it feels.
The entire World has no idea of the evil of the USA Government. Just look how many treaties were broken by them with the Native American Tribes. The USA is run by the CIA & AIPAC. That's all anyone needs to know. Think about it. Panama is a sovereign, independent, & neutral nation that earns income from the 2 canals. Listening to a narcissist, grifter, & con-man threaten Panama... Panama needs to go back to the UN to assert their Human Rights.
A main reason to give it back to Panama was the cost of keeping soldiers posted there. At its height there were 135,000 soldiers in the US southern command with half stationed at the canal. They would have to place thousands of soldiers there if US somehow took it back at a huge expense.
Cost of ships passing through the Panama Canal must be cheaper versus cost of offloading ships on either coast and dragging that cargo by train across the country from one coast to another and reloading that cargo on another ship.
There is contradiction on the professors statement. First, Panama as a country is neutral. It doesn't even have military and the US is responsible for its protection. Second, the Panama canal, as an entity, is neutral. Third, China doesn't run (administer) the Panama canal. Forth, the price to go across the Panama Canal are state in the US. I read about the Panama Canal history and it was never negotiated by the Panamanian government but the Great Colombia as Panama was a Federal state so, the project to build the Panama Canal was sign by the great Colombia with the Universal Company of the Maritime Canal of Suez, formed by Ferdinand de Lesseps in 1858. After the failure to build the Canal, his chief engineer Philippe-Jean Bunau-Varilla, went to USA and sold the project to Teddy Roosevelt. He recognized the need of a mega project and he was interest even before the French got the project. Wrapping up till here, the great Colombia gave the mega project to de Lesseps company and after the failure de Lesseps send Bunau-Varilla to sell the project to the US, and the US pay 10M, later splitted between de Lesseps company and by this time Colombia after the US collaborate with Panama separation from the great Colombia. You may have noticed by now that Panama, didn't get any money for the mega project. So, it is a mega project and a mega project has a ROI time, the US paid the Panamanian government a remanent after the OPEX. And after a profit time before it's deliver to the owner. Nevertheless, there was a turning point where the US clearly saw an opportunity to keep the Panama Canal under perpetuity, and decided to take land that was never included on the original contract to be used by the South Command Network. That's why Panamanians claim that no Panamanian ever signed for the mega project or any agreement to install military bases in Panamanian soil that divided their capital city in two territories. Finally, the Panamanian government present this case at the UN, and got major support which concluded with the US senate returning the mega project to Panama.
The original canal could NOT accommodate the massive cargo ships. The USA had NO interest nor provided ANY funding of the expansion of the canal that was completed LONG AFTER J. Carter's agreement.
That sounds perfect. Trump can curb the foreign spending by colluding with Panama officials limiting what can be transported. Restrict combat drones, anti air weapons etcetc
IF an international incident were to occur does the US Navy want to get caught with a ship in the canal? It would be a sitting duck. An adversary could easily sink that ship blocking the canal. !
🤔 Heres a bit of trivia...When ships are going from the Atlantic to the Pacific thru the canal... They travel more EASTERLY than westerly ...Go look at a map 😮
I wouldn’t mind using military force for the Canal. I believe there’s some stipulation in the treaty Carter had done that said we can use military force if the US ships aren’t being treated fairly or other countries start trying to control it
A Chinese ship heavily loaded with merch for the US wouldnt go thru the canal. It would stop on the west coast most likely Long Beach unload and the merch will be trucked all over this land. Even to the east coast saving the ship owners $250,000 canal passage fee. !
Panama should just close it or charge America a huge tarriff. It would take them years to learn how to work it. Panama workers could ask $100.00 per hour.
You both seem to be unaware of how technology affects life. You somehow think the technology that allowed the Canal to be expanded is secret? Or forgotten? Or not even improved? Initially, France tried from 1881, but gave up in 1890. The US took over in 1904 and finished in 1914. Panama later began expansion in September of 2007 and completed in June 2016 (that's more than 4 years, by the way - your country's math sucks). So, with people digging dirt, the USA created the Panama canal in 10 years and with Panamanian know-how, they expanded the locks in 9 years. 🤔Hmm, yeah, they probably could have used the US to help them along. And it's not like there were 20,000 TEU ships back in 1914, which were the size of ships when the Panamanians expanded. (Meaning, even when completed, there were ships that were too large for the Panama Canal.)
@grondhero that's back when they would get shit done though. Today 12 guys standing there 2 guys working. Labor laws probably a bit different as well I would assume.
@ Back in the day we weren't saddled with all this environmental non-sense and labor laws. You have workers unwilling to work? Fire them and replace them. No Unions to gum up the works or destroy equipment. You unearth the nest of some critically endangered lizard? Oh well - such is life - see ya, wouldn't want to be ya - move on. Today we have allowed liberals to stop progress. This is why the US is failing.
You failed to mention that there is a neutrality agreement with Panama. The US is also 70-75% percent of the traffic through the canal so it seems unlikely that Panama would stop US traffic and lose all that revenue. As far as Gatun Lake, yes, there is a potential issue with drought causing a reduction in water. This happened this past year and Panama had to make some reductions in traffic, however, I fail to see how trump taking over the canal would avoid this happening as it has nothing to do with who manages the canal. You also failed to mention that Panamanian independence was orchestrated by Roosevelt and french financier Bunau-Varilla in order to get control of the canal area that France had already attempted to turn into the canal. Sounds more like your trying to whitewash potential US aggression towards a sovereign nation in violation of a treaty. Oh BTW, the Chinese have not taken over control of the canal. You also might want to look into trump's failed hotel here in Panama. This is probably the reason he is fixated on this.
There may be some alternate canals across Central America (Tehuantepec isthmus) in future, but the present "Panama" canal is the best, because it is the best location to dig a canal (36 mile wide isthmus) & proved its worth by remaining the only canal here. Much investment has been sunk here, needing only marginal additional investment to overcome its present predicament. The problem: the very concept of lifting each ship 85 feet AMSL, by means of a system of locks - over three levels. Enormous water is needed (50 million gallons) whenever a gate is opened. Seasonal heavy rains impounded by Gatun & the much smaller Miraflores lakes, supply water. With climatic changes the water needed wasn't forthcoming & the mid-canal dried up. The task ahead, after studying the Gatun lake (9m or 30 feet deep?) hydrography, is to eliminate the locks-system & dig-up the canal bottom, to sea level. Opportunity: The present canal works can be imagined as partly-built canal, needing the work to be completed. The present canal is the asset (investment) to start work. All the the expenditure can be recovered shortly, in future. Water level in the canal at 85 feet (26m) AMSL implies deepening, for sea water entry. Further, the canal bottom shall have to be dug up, to 14m - AMSL for the needed draft for big ships. It implies, maximum digging of 40 m (131 feet) at places, but mostly 15 m. It is doable with the present-day equipment & machinery. Work contracts can be farmed out to Asian (Korean, Chinese & Indian) firms.
LBJ was trying to give.the Canal back in 1967. But he choose not.to run again and Carter did it in 1977. By this time the Canal was a political liability for the US. And not longer usefull for the military since the US has now two large fleets and the Carriers cannot longer use the Canal...so.Carter.ented what LBJ started.
The canal is now undersized and in dire need of repairs/upgrades. Is the US ready to pay for that one big ticket items vs coming to an agreement and putting a base back in Panama?
Panama previously belonged to Colombia, after the eagle use the technique divide and conquer stole the land and was ready to build the blood canal where many workers died from yellow fever.
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Agree, Sal runs a good channel without superfluous blabber - just gets to the point.
This channel is awesome. It's become one of my go-to sources. To quote a once popular phrase: "Just the facts, Ma'am."
So stupid to give it up.
But they paid a whole dollar for it
Thats Jimmy Carter for you
Keep it and have all of South America call you "imperialist" .
Also and most important it is 100% not defensible.
If Panamanian Nationalists decided to attack ships passing thru there is not a damned thing American military could do to stop it.
jimmy carter.
Carter understood that the Panama Canal was not a military asset anymore. It was built in 1914 and was too small. Panama spent billions making it meet 21st century needs. Bigger US navy ships can transit in expedited transit. It is 100% controlled by Panama. Trump lies.
Forgot to mention Panama was a territory of Colombia and the US helped them get their independence. Panama is the Dubai of Latin America thanks to the US.
@@curtfont some countries get prosperity thanks to oil. Panama became prosperous thanks to its geography, not to the US.
The US "Supports" Panama Independence from Colombia, after that they put a Puppet Corrupt Government in Panama that gives away the Canal to the US !!
more like the US staged a coup to grab what became Panama so it could build the canal ..."for security reasons"
@@Anayansi958 But without the intervention of the US the independence movement would had been dead on arrival, must likely. Colombia wasn't willing to let the isthmus go
Yes we helped them get their independence because Columbia did not want to give USA permission to build a canal and the revolutionaries were willing to trade a 100 year treaty with USA .
The problem is that the canal is running out of water to fill the locks. This is causing traffic to back up. This situation will only continue to worsen unless someone is willing to make major infrastructure changes. That will cost money and Panama doesn't have it.
The 'sales treaty(?)' gave the USA's ships first passage rights when they show up (both commercial and military). But even then the Chinese could just disable or even sink a ship in the canal locks to block them off (both east and west bound traffic).
Idt China would risk a war with the US honestly
Lies
How, Just say how is china going to do that?
They own two major ports on both sides. They could blow them out if they ever decide to go through with their invasion. Then navy ships would have to travel all the way around the continent
@@EricdeBerea China controls Panamanian ports on both ends of the canal. ALL Chinese companies are under the ultimate control of the CCP and PLAN. The Chinese ports and PLAN could undertake all kinds of mischief to deny access during a crisis.
Panama never had the makings of a varsity nation... until USA built the Canal.
It was, in fact, the other way around. The US wasn't all that until the Canal.
Panama always did, we just had Colombia not allowing us to go our separate ways. Panama would've built the Panama Canal sooner or later, US or not. It was a matter of time.
We're possibly the only other country, besides Israel, that can say "No" to Americans.
The United States also agreed to guarantee the independence of Panama... We made a deal.
Been listening to this channel a bit more recently and found it to be pretty fair and true to its name. Subscribed and hope you guys get more traffic.
This guy knows nothing...he is an idiot...he just repeats what the orange clown said.
1:19 Carter made a boo-boo.
Just take the darn thing back. Jimmy Carter was an idiot. I was furious when he did it and I still am.
I’m right there with you. I remember when he did it and it was infuriating. We paid for it, both for the land and with thousands of lives building it, and then that weak moron Carter gave it away.
Take it back. Put it in Texas. Panama will keep its new one. It’s Panama’s land, water and geography.
Since the 1970's the United States had international pressure with the situation of the Canal, in fact, in the United Nations Security Council their were literaly NO VOTE in favor of the United States surrounding the Panama Canal Situation. In fact, EVEN U.S. Allies prefered not to support the United States such as the United Kingdom.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You should get a life. Mad for 20+ Years over that Canal turnover ?? My God you need a Girlfriend !! What a loser !!😂😂😂
It was a dumb move. Probably at the arm twisting of State Dept
70% of ships passed Panama Canal related to US economy and we gave it up… that’s so stupid.
The Carter administration was democrats, so naturally it was a stupid decision.
You didn't give up on it, you leased it and the lease period ended. That's all.
@@pvdppvdp6638 Wrong. The USA possessed the Panama canal "in perpetuity": "In 1904, the Isthmian Canal Convention was proclaimed. In it, the Republic of Panama granted to the United States in perpetuity the use, occupation, and control of a zone of land and land underwater for the construction, maintenance, operation, sanitation, and protection of the canal." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone#:~:text=In%201904%2C%20the%20Isthmian%20Canal,and%20protection%20of%20the%20canal.
@@barryfletcher7136NONE of it says "Property" of the Canal. In fact, FOR YEARS the idea of "ownership" of the Canal was a matter of discussion that ended up in the U.S. paying Panama money for the operations of the Canal.
Their was international pressure in the 70's to hand it, including U.S. Allies abstained from defending the United States with the Canal.
What does the United States could do?
When Carter stupidly gave the canal to Panama, it did come with conditions. If those conditions are violated (like China running Canal operations instead of Panama), then the Canal goes back to the USA. So, we don't have to buy it. It would legally be ours.
I agree wth this Trump decision... 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Canal Zone brat here - Gatun represent! I think military force would be crazy but I want it back. The US didn’t give it ‘back.’ It was ours. Jimmy Carter was unwise to sign the treaty.
We created Panama from Columbia. Panama would not exist at all if not for the USA. We should take it back, fairly pay Panama for it but let's not pretend they have a choice.
Panama existed before Spaniards. It gained independence in 1821 from Spain.
@@Anayansi958 The statement is partially incorrect. While the region now known as Panama was inhabited by indigenous peoples long before Spanish arrival, Panama as a political entity did not exist before Spanish colonization. It was part of the Spanish Empire until 1821, when it gained independence from Spain and voluntarily joined Gran Colombia. Panama did not become fully independent as its own nation until 1903, when it separated from Colombia.
@ Panamá may not have existed as a Western political entity, but its name and territory with the mission of being a transit isthmus and melting pot did exist since pre Colonial times. Panama could have become independent in 1902 if the US wouldn’t have helped Colombia at the time.
@@Anayansi958 While it's true that Panama's geographic role as a transit isthmus and cultural crossroads existed long before European colonization, the formation of Panama as a modern, independent nation was heavily influenced by U.S. intervention. If the U.S. had never pursued the Panama Canal, the likelihood of Panama becoming an independent nation in the early 20th century would have been very low. At the time, Panama was a remote province of Colombia with limited resources and little political leverage to successfully push for independence on its own. Previous independence attempts had failed due to a lack of external support and Colombia's military control.
The U.S. had a direct and strategic interest in separating Panama from Colombia to build and control the canal. Without that motivation, there would have been no U.S. naval blockade to stop Colombian forces, no financial or political backing for revolutionaries, and no international pressure on Colombia to let Panama go.
Panama might have eventually gained independence, but it likely would have taken much longer and under very different circumstances-possibly as part of broader regional movements or internal Colombian political shifts. The decisive and swift independence Panama achieved in 1903 was almost entirely due to U.S. intervention.
Amerikkka and their rape culture
"China is operating the Panama Canal and we didn't give it to China, we gave it to Panama and we're taking it back." ~President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20th 2025
You’re just as ignorant as your President. He say disinformation because it’s people like you listening to propaganda.. Then you vote… then he screw you over
Yeah...DOUCHEBAG DONNYS as dilussional as ever...
China is not operating the Panama canal, that just shows how ignorant Trump IS}
@@liberty-matrix Trumps🤡 an illiterate turd 💩
Yes . Why not!!!!
We never should have given up control of the Canal!
Take the Canal back immediately; don’t think twice about it. Make an appropriate consideration to Panama. The “Peanut Farmer” screwed up a lot of things.
Yeah! We're 'mercans and we can just take whatever we want! Phuq*e the planet and everyone else in it. We're special; exceptional even! Lol.
I am Panamanian. In Panama they instill in us that our most important natural resource is simply our geographical position. Other countries have minerals or oil. Panama has an unmatched, enviable and inalienable position. Destiny put us here and we are the custodians of this point. We are the nation of the isthmus.
For this reason, there is no proposal that any power, today or tomorrow, can offer so that we Panamanians, voluntarily and as a national group, can give them control of the canal. Where the powers have nuclear weapons, we are simply here. The biggest weakness is that a ship sunk in the narrowest part (the culebra cut) ruins the entire operation. Remember what happened to the Suez Canal? Well like that - indefinitely. Making it obsolete is our weapon.
As for the security of the canal, everyone passes through the canal. It is better that it stays in Panamanian hands because we are destined for neutrality. What the "professor" said is bogus. Our neutrality treaty force us to allow everyone to pass through, even Russian warships. If the US took over, it would be an easy target for its enemies since the US is the #1 user. It is known that Osama Bin Laden considered attacking the Panama Canal to hurt the United States, but decided to focus on the twin towers of NYC, the Pentagon, and the White House. However, if the Panama Canal remains with Panama as a neutral country, there would be an understanding (which, although it could be broken) would be seen as an attack on a third nation and not a legitimate objective, thereby allowing the transit of ships, even when their countries could be at war with each other.
In summary, the math ain't mathing for the US to get back on track in any way. The Panama Canal belongs to Panama or there is no canal.
Also, has anyone stopped to think why Jimmy Carter and 68 US Senators (only needed 66) voted in favor of the treaty? Think about it. Learn more. It has a lot to do with what I just described here.
The US already has military/coast guard station in the canal. You can see them docked up at the entrance of the canal today
And US navy Seals..with prepositioned equipment.
Trump is lying about the chinese then? 😅🤣
@@PTYFONDA.Yes
It's all BS. The US is just creating a problem where there is none
The US broke off diplomatic relations with Taiwan in the 1960s and now that Panama has done it, it's an issue. GTFO
any wild excuse to get a DISCOUNT for USA.
stand up to a bully.
Conceding will only feed and encourage the bully.
Panamá 🇵🇦 soberan country.
New addition to the canal just completed
Several illegal immigrants that I spoke with said they witnessed dozens of Chinese tanks and troops while traveling on foot to the US months ago. I live in a border city to MX.
I think we ought take Cuba while we're at it.
Yeah the hyperbole swirling around Trump’s comments are ridiculous. People are so clueless about American defense.
If Military or Economic force is used anywhere on this planet to force any issue , you just validated the Russian occupation of Ukraine...
Can the US go and grab Cyprus from Greece or Turkey on the pretext that they need it for "vital" national interest ...???
And on that note , can Russia reclaim the State of Alaska on the gounds of vital national interest.. ???
Pure Nonsense...😂😂
Congress has to authorize any military force today
@3:15~ "...we don't wanna show COMPLICIDENCY (SIC)..." REALLY? A New Made Word!
America 🇺🇸
The Panama Canal exists because of the USA so the rights to operate it belongs to us!!!
Not probably. Definitely....
The canal was first started to build by the British. They had to give up and then the US took over.
NEWLY INDEPENDENT PANAMA!!! I grew up there in the 60's and 70's and know a little. No one in that part of Columbia was looking for independence until the OSS showed up!!😂😂😂😂😂
OSS was created during WW2
Panama tried to separate from Colombia in 1830, 1831, 1840 and 1885. So no...also the US Navy showed up in 1903, not the OSS.
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We paid for it and the canal is ours. America take it back.
The Panama Canal was built in 1914, which makes it a relic. In fact, it is an old structure that has become too small for the size of the ships that are built today. If Trump wants to get his Canal back, he would have to reclaim that old canal built in 1914, not the third set of locks built with Panamanian taxes in 2016. Panamanians expanded the canal to allow larger ships to pass, and in fact most of the traffic goes through that new structure.
The current Panama Canal is not the same as in 1914. Most of the human lives lost in the construction of the canal were not Americans, but West Indians that the Americans themselves brought to do the hard work for them. Most of the workers were black, from countries like Martinique, Jamaica, Trinidad...
Trump wants to get it back so he can rename it the America Canal 🤣
It’s a serious discussion. Grow up.
He should troll the demoncrats with Trump canal as the name change.😂
donald trump is accomplishing things. this is impossible for democrats.
essentially it is the American Canal, America built it and maintained it and provided security for 40 years.
Greetings from Panamá the canal has a neutrality treaty ratified by many countries but not China. The Balboa port on the Pacific and the Cristobal port in Caribean side where operated by The Panamá canal company and when the canal was given to Panamá it was operated by The A.P.N. Panamá port authority , the ports where out dated with no container handling facilities there fore these two ports that are strategically located had to be modernized to handle containerized cargo and Panamá didn't have the money so the ports where put up for bid. Sealand (u.s. ) came in second and Hutchington wapoa from HongKong won the bid. Hutchinson was a Brittish company until the turn over of HongKong to China. Concerning the Panamá canal rates all ships pay the same and these rates are agreed between the users and the canal authority not unilaterally. If the u.s. wanted a better rate they had the opportunity to negotiate this in the orijinal treaty that gave the canal to Panamá as it was negotiated to give u.s. navy ships preferential transits.Finally Panamá has operated the canal very well and even made it bigger with the new locks for bigger ships. Let's talk the truth the average Panamanian is very proud of the canal and the way we have operated it for the past 25 years so I would say the only way the u.s. Will get it back would be a military invasion and thats a terrible move specially by all the countries that cosigned Panama's neutrality treaty.
The United States should the President of the United States wish to do this cannot do this alone meaning *"take AND hold"* 😊😊
What are the legalities of taking control back? Were there any provisions in the treaty that would allow it such as not maintaining the canal?
This video lacks the information that Panamanians paid 5.5 billion dollars from their taxes to expand the canal and finish the expansion in 2016 to produce thos 2.5 billions per year. That canal has the core of the traffic. Also lacks the information that Panama fix the price by size and type of the cargo, it has nothing to do with origin or destination country. It also lacks the information that there is a Neutral Treaty were Panama commits to treat all countries equal. This video also lacks that Panama a long term ally of the U.S. is the only country that took steps in contain the Venezuelan inmigration through Darien Jungle costing Panamanians millions of dollars. Feels like our friend is stabbing our backs, that is how it feels.
The entire World has no idea of the evil of the USA Government.
Just look how many treaties were broken by them with the Native American Tribes.
The USA is run by the CIA & AIPAC.
That's all anyone needs to know.
Think about it.
Panama is a sovereign, independent, & neutral nation that earns income from the 2 canals.
Listening to a narcissist, grifter, & con-man threaten Panama...
Panama needs to go back to the UN to assert their Human Rights.
A main reason to give it back to Panama was the cost of keeping soldiers posted there. At its height there were 135,000 soldiers in the US southern command with half stationed at the canal. They would have to place thousands of soldiers there if US somehow took it back at a huge expense.
we're still protecting it
Cost of ships passing through the Panama Canal must be cheaper versus cost of offloading ships on either coast and dragging that cargo by train across the country from one coast to another and reloading that cargo on another ship.
There is contradiction on the professors statement. First, Panama as a country is neutral. It doesn't even have military and the US is responsible for its protection. Second, the Panama canal, as an entity, is neutral. Third, China doesn't run (administer) the Panama canal. Forth, the price to go across the Panama Canal are state in the US.
I read about the Panama Canal history and it was never negotiated by the Panamanian government but the Great Colombia as Panama was a Federal state so, the project to build the Panama Canal was sign by the great Colombia with the Universal Company of the Maritime Canal of Suez, formed by Ferdinand de Lesseps in 1858. After the failure to build the Canal, his chief engineer Philippe-Jean Bunau-Varilla, went to USA and sold the project to Teddy Roosevelt. He recognized the need of a mega project and he was interest even before the French got the project.
Wrapping up till here, the great Colombia gave the mega project to de Lesseps company and after the failure de Lesseps send Bunau-Varilla to sell the project to the US, and the US pay 10M, later splitted between de Lesseps company and by this time Colombia after the US collaborate with Panama separation from the great Colombia. You may have noticed by now that Panama, didn't get any money for the mega project.
So, it is a mega project and a mega project has a ROI time, the US paid the Panamanian government a remanent after the OPEX. And after a profit time before it's deliver to the owner. Nevertheless, there was a turning point where the US clearly saw an opportunity to keep the Panama Canal under perpetuity, and decided to take land that was never included on the original contract to be used by the South Command Network. That's why Panamanians claim that no Panamanian ever signed for the mega project or any agreement to install military bases in Panamanian soil that divided their capital city in two territories.
Finally, the Panamanian government present this case at the UN, and got major support which concluded with the US senate returning the mega project to Panama.
The most accurate comment. One exception...Buneau Varilla sold the project to JP Morgan. Who sold it to Teddy.
Don't beat about the bush ..
The Panama Canal belongs to Panama ..
Trump can go jump in a lake ..😊
He owes them taxes he cheated on
The original canal could NOT accommodate the massive cargo ships. The USA had NO interest nor provided ANY funding of the expansion of the canal that was completed LONG AFTER J. Carter's agreement.
That sounds perfect. Trump can curb the foreign spending by colluding with Panama officials limiting what can be transported. Restrict combat drones, anti air weapons etcetc
IF an international incident were to occur does the US Navy want to get caught with a ship in the canal?
It would be a sitting duck. An adversary could easily sink that ship blocking the canal.
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That ship would not be alone. There would be air assets available and other ships to cover its transit in wartime
COULD THE REASON BE...THE CANEL NEEDS MAJOR OVERHAUL TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEWER AND LARGER CONTAINER SHIPS AND PANAMA CAN NOT FUND IT.
Whow are the two Chinses companies that "conrol" the two ends of the canal ??
Jimmy Carter was not very smart .
Georgia even suffered under Governor Jimmy Carter.
The US did not start building the canal France began work on the canal in 1881
And failed colossally. The French tried to build a sea-level canal, essentially a big ditch. The US designed and built the lock system in use today.
The Shave Head Alliance? Lol
Look at the contract, if any provisions were violated the US would have grounds for action.
They are nuts
Thanks Peanuts 😮😮
It's great that Panama doesn't have a military. Been there done that Just Cause 2.0
If necessary - but there's easier ways.
We have Marines that can take care of things like this
🤔 Heres a bit of trivia...When ships are going from the Atlantic to the Pacific thru the canal... They travel more EASTERLY than westerly ...Go look at a map 😮
I wouldn’t mind using military force for the Canal. I believe there’s some stipulation in the treaty Carter had done that said we can use military force if the US ships aren’t being treated fairly or other countries start trying to control it
No there is not.nas I wrote.some.papers.on the subjet.
@ yeah I wrote more papers on it and there definitely is
China-linked company that controls two ports adjacent to the Panama Canal the entry and exit of the canal
The real reason is for money londering Panama is very good at it .Trump needs this
We built the canal which is a money printing machine. Every ship passing through pays a fee. So hand it over or cease to exist.
thought the French started building the canal
PANAMA WILL LOSE A LOT OF BUSINESS AS SOON AS MEXICO GETS THERE CANAL DONE
Inauguration for Trump today. He said We’re taking back Panama Canal.
Tick tock tick tock …
A Chinese ship heavily loaded with merch for the US wouldnt go thru the canal. It would stop on the west coast most likely Long Beach
unload and the merch will be trucked all over this land. Even to the east coast saving the ship owners $250,000 canal passage fee.
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Most is by rail.
Panama should just close it or charge America a huge tarriff.
It would take them years to learn how to work it.
Panama workers
could ask $100.00 per hour.
Straight Arrow News reporting on "Probaly", that is NOT News, it's bollocks opinion... Straight Arrow News is as Straight as Elton John 😂😂😂
This is a lies or misinformation, the Panama Canal was started by France, they ran out of money then the USA took over!
Other words, another failure by France. Go USA.
Yellow fever and malaria killed them...the Yanks figured out It was mosquitos..
Lol because Panama is suing Trump for tax evasion thats why
other countrys are building canals,
Well, America can start charging more to transit thru the Canal.....
Trump needs to understand some basic principles ...like you don't invade other countries...
Don’t invade unless freedom is threatened.
Like.Ucraine?
Your words went from your lips to Marco Rubios' ear.
Trump owes the government of panana money thats why.
Invaded before ..................................
I wonder how much longer it would take to build now. I know for a fact they couldnt do it faster.
Panama made it bigger and better from 5,000 TEU to 14,000 TEU in 4 years....USA sucks.
@@urracabolivar1374 But USA made the nation of Panama in addition to the canal. LOL Calm down, rakataka.
You both seem to be unaware of how technology affects life. You somehow think the technology that allowed the Canal to be expanded is secret? Or forgotten? Or not even improved?
Initially, France tried from 1881, but gave up in 1890. The US took over in 1904 and finished in 1914. Panama later began expansion in September of 2007 and completed in June 2016 (that's more than 4 years, by the way - your country's math sucks). So, with people digging dirt, the USA created the Panama canal in 10 years and with Panamanian know-how, they expanded the locks in 9 years. 🤔Hmm, yeah, they probably could have used the US to help them along. And it's not like there were 20,000 TEU ships back in 1914, which were the size of ships when the Panamanians expanded. (Meaning, even when completed, there were ships that were too large for the Panama Canal.)
@grondhero that's back when they would get shit done though. Today 12 guys standing there 2 guys working. Labor laws probably a bit different as well I would assume.
@ Back in the day we weren't saddled with all this environmental non-sense and labor laws. You have workers unwilling to work? Fire them and replace them. No Unions to gum up the works or destroy equipment. You unearth the nest of some critically endangered lizard? Oh well - such is life - see ya, wouldn't want to be ya - move on. Today we have allowed liberals to stop progress. This is why the US is failing.
Carter goofed up
That is putting it kindly.
You have some facts wrong regarding the initial stages of the construction. I recommend you look it up
You failed to mention that there is a neutrality agreement with Panama. The US is also 70-75% percent of the traffic through the canal so it seems unlikely that Panama would stop US traffic and lose all that revenue.
As far as Gatun Lake, yes, there is a potential issue with drought causing a reduction in water. This happened this past year and Panama had to make some reductions in traffic, however, I fail to see how trump taking over the canal would avoid this happening as it has nothing to do with who manages the canal.
You also failed to mention that Panamanian independence was orchestrated by Roosevelt and french financier Bunau-Varilla in order to get control of the canal area that France had already attempted to turn into the canal.
Sounds more like your trying to whitewash potential US aggression towards a sovereign nation in violation of a treaty.
Oh BTW, the Chinese have not taken over control of the canal.
You also might want to look into trump's failed hotel here in Panama. This is probably the reason he is fixated on this.
Trump caught laundering money with the ruskies in Panama..just ask Eric about that..
Panama has not lived up to the treaty .
Keep China in check.
Panama Canal belongs to America, period.
We can just take it. They have not lived up to our agreement when it was gifted to them.
Jimmy Carter..... uhg
imperialism is not tolerated in the world.
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It always was tolerated. Lets not be children.
There may be some alternate canals across Central America (Tehuantepec isthmus) in future, but the present "Panama" canal is the best, because it is the best location to dig a canal (36 mile wide isthmus) & proved its worth by remaining the only canal here. Much investment has been sunk here, needing only marginal additional investment to overcome its present predicament.
The problem: the very concept of lifting each ship 85 feet AMSL, by means of a system of locks - over three levels. Enormous water is needed (50 million gallons) whenever a gate is opened. Seasonal heavy rains impounded by Gatun & the much smaller Miraflores lakes, supply water. With climatic changes the water needed wasn't forthcoming & the mid-canal dried up. The task ahead, after studying the Gatun lake (9m or 30 feet deep?) hydrography, is to eliminate the locks-system & dig-up the canal bottom, to sea level.
Opportunity: The present canal works can be imagined as partly-built canal, needing the work to be completed. The present canal is the asset (investment) to start work. All the the expenditure can be recovered shortly, in future.
Water level in the canal at 85 feet (26m) AMSL implies deepening, for sea water entry. Further, the canal bottom shall have to be dug up, to 14m - AMSL for the needed draft for big ships. It implies, maximum digging of 40 m (131 feet) at places, but mostly 15 m. It is doable with the present-day equipment & machinery. Work contracts can be farmed out to Asian (Korean, Chinese & Indian) firms.
We throughout,, noreauga,,drug hughway
Carter's disastrous legacy. Iran too.
Yes he will and hen takes Mexico route as well and then Trump will control world trade.
The land Belongs to Panama .... and for Panamanians to control ...
Survival of the fittest. They sell or it taken from them. Simple as that.
Great. Give us our money back then.
The Money and not to mention the lives. You really don't know shit do you?
it was built by america. it is ours to take back.
@@MoneyMagnet-m2tok then dipshit, then France should own the canal since they lost the most men 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If US gets Panama Canalback, does it mean it’s also ok for China to get Taiwan back?
The US built the canal for a reason. Why on earth Jimmy Carter sold it for one dollar?!!!
LBJ was trying to give.the Canal back in 1967. But he choose not.to run again and Carter did it in 1977. By this time the Canal was a political liability for the US. And not longer usefull for the military since the US has now two large fleets and the Carriers cannot longer use the Canal...so.Carter.ented what LBJ started.
The canal is now undersized and in dire need of repairs/upgrades. Is the US ready to pay for that one big ticket items vs coming to an agreement and putting a base back in Panama?
Panama previously belonged to Colombia, after the eagle use the technique divide and conquer stole the land and was ready to build the blood canal where many workers died from yellow fever.
This Panama Canal question arises because of China try to operate it.
China is BS..the Chinese do not run the Canal..a flat out Trump lie.