Infinite Lagrange | What is the best carrier?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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[3:51] AC721 Heavy Dual Purpose Assault Ship (can only carry 2 corvettes, not 3)
[5:15] Guardian Dual Purpose Assault Ship
[6:04] Tundra Aircraft Destroyer
[6:30] Ceres Aircraft Destroyer
[7:15] CAS066 Aircraft Cruiser
[7:50] KCCPV2.0 Light Aircraft Cruiser
[9:15] Predator Aircraft Cruiser
[10:27] Predator Tactical Aircraft Cruiser
[11:53] Predator Anti Aircraft Cruiser
[12:30] Jaeger Heavy Aircraft Cruiser
[13:05] Solar Whale Armed Tactical Carrier , CV3000 High Speed Carrier
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Made a slight mistake here! The AC721 can only carry 2 corvettes, not 3. Apologies, not sure how I made that mistake. In this instance I'd probably drop it down a rank or two.
How would you change the rankings for Guardian? IIRC the guardian can fit more aircraft boosting upgrades than the AC721 (going off of memory so not 100% on this one). I love your content but the AC721 3-slot mistake might me repeated enough throughout the video to warrant a video redo, particularly due to its effect on your descriptions for other corvette carriers
That’s ok simple mistake
@@smooticus1691 I'd bring the guardian up to C/B and the AC721 to D I think.
I opened AC721 and went checking maybe there is some sort of subsystem to add a 3rd corvette lol
@@Turanic1 nah it doesn't but the AC721 is probably the most common one you will see
timestamp:
3:51 AC721 Heavy Dual Purpose Assault Ship (can only carry 2 corvettes, not 3)
5:15 Guardian Dual Purpose Assault Ship
6:04 Tundra Aircraft Destroyer
6:30 Ceres Aircraft Destroyer
7:15 CAS066 Aircraft Cruiser
7:50 KCCPV2.0 Light Aircraft Cruiser
9:15 Predator Aircraft Cruiser
10:27 Predator Tactical Aircraft Cruiser
11:53 Predator Anti Aircraft Cruiser
12:30 Jaeger Heavy Aircraft Cruiser
13:05 Solar Whale Armed Tactical Carrier , CV3000 High Speed Carrier
thanks for this! you're the realy MVP. I've added it to the description in the video which should add the chapters in.
Hi, man. AC721 carrier takes 2 vettes, for shure, i run them quite extencively.
Yea not 3
Good video, thanks for the content.
The AC721 even with only 2 (not 3) cellular defenders is good "throwaway" air support. It lacks staying power but it is so cheap that doesn't really matter. It hits way above its resource cost and the fleet point cost of the ship. If you're doing a city siege where you will have multiple engagements they aren't good, but for a 1x fight they are worth it.
The primary purpose of the CAS corvette carrier is the added staying power you don't have with the AC721 or other smaller carriers. It's better suited to city siege, etc.
One final item that may not be immediately evident, the fighters and corvettes cost total fleet points but don't affect the task force point totals. A CV3000 costs 40 whether it is fully loaded or not. If you field it without a full complement of fighters/bombers it's going to be very inefficient.
Sorry one more thing people should be thinking about because I just ran into it on my server.
We have a troll practicing some guerilla warfare with us, he has his base in an asteroid cloud. We can only attack him with Frigates and Destroyers. The AC721 is pretty invaluable for me to attack him with because I have good Corvettes (Red Beast and Cellular Defender) and no really good frigates.
It's probably less of an issue in radiation clouds, but putting a lot into Fighters, Bombers, and Corvettes gives you the ability to have a flexible attack team.
Excellent video. I agree. CV3000 is faster, it did in the back row, it's cheaper to make, it costs less fleet points et cetera. Mine says over a million damage after every raid. I do however run five whales as well as CV. I add two predators for a total of 118 aircraft with the carrier blueprint upgrades. So far my record is close to ten million damage versus a city. I know I can shatter that record. At this time politics other me from doing so.
Thankyou! for information 💙
Nice video. With my BP luck I had the redbeast and cellular defender unlocked very early on so the AC721 was S tier for me for a long time. Just recently pulled the CV3000 and my first fighter, the SC002, which is serviceable. In my individual case, the rankings would heavily favored carriers which could bring in more corvettes
I pine for the CV3000 for its ability to field so much force projection. I have so many fighters I wanna field, I hate having to split up my fighter wings by ship carrier type.
I wanna withdraw my AC721 vette carriers and re-point the tech points to the missile chassis.
The Solar Whale has an upgrade that swaps out the corvette hangar for a hanger that can carry 8 large fighters. I heard that the Whale can also have an additional hanger slot that can be filled by a corvette hangar or a fighter hangar. I don't know the actual number of aircraft each hangar can carry, but I heard that a single Whale can carry 14 large fighters in total.
Yeah. I still feel the balanced mix the cv3k brings in is better. 5 larger fighters and 6 corvettes
@@Damphyre Yeah I agree. Plus it would take a long time to get the add-ons for the Whale whereas the CV3K by default can already carry fighters and corvettes. It's also faster.
The Kccpv slaps hard with the vitas. I feel like it's S for sure with the vitas, it was doing more damage than any other ship I had at the time.
me wtih my sting ray :(
@@shooter913b same
me with no bombers but i have anti aircraft corvettes ._.
I pulled two CV3000, which gives it ANOTHER Corvette Hangar which gives it 3 additional. Making one CV3000 hold 5 fighters and 6 corvettes. It's insane.
I hear ya. I got that extra dock on my CV and I run 4 of those beautiful death machines.
the third mod for the CV3000 is a additional large hanger bay so you can carry 8 fighters in total but you lose the corvettes
Haha oddly literally last night started unlocking that myself 😅
Ceres also can heal aircraft when the aircraft RTB, it does work
one of the battlecruisers👌
Hahaha potentially. ST59 get fighters and the spear I believe gets vettes. But they're also losing powerful subsystems to allow that
It's kind of weird that corvettes and fighters are called 'aircraft' when they are in the vacuum of space. I would change the name to 'spacecraft', perhaps? Also, I would change the name of the carrier class to 'supercarrier' or 'mothership' to distinguish the super capitals from the smaller carriers and because I think they sound cooler.
Yeah was thinking about that a few days ago. But surely space craft would mean all of the rest of ships in the game as well? So the class of ships from Battlecruiser and up are called Super Capitals, so I guess it in theory is the super carrier 🤔
@@Damphyre Do you have a better name than 'Spacecraft'?
For the entirety of Phase 1 I was running the AC and the KCCP carriers as I had no others....but I've got the Cellular Destroyer and Red Beast corvettes and vitas fighters so wasnt to bad, now I'm 4 hours from Phase 2 and just pulled CV3000
I got the CV3000 early game in my second server. No fighters yet but its gonna be my victory condition later! I am so stoked!
Even Tho I Do Only Have The Solar Whale (Which Is My Pfp), I Get Them In 2, And Maybe 3 If I Have More Effective Corvette BPs. As They Can Have 12 Corvettes. And If I Have The Celluar Defender-Torpedo Corvette/Anti-Ship Variant, I Would Wreak Havoc To Those Fleets That I Attack.
The most unbelievable part is that a carrier, a ship that has a sole purpose of carrying isnt atleast S class
They have more unlockable systems that push that to S I believe.
I’ve got a bit of weird request. Do you think you could go over what tactics you have found best in the game? Say fleet builds that you have found to be the meta or clever plays you have seen work (like blockading to break player formations). I think this would be cool to see
Got some plans for that. But I need to get them recorded etc which is a bit more difficult.
@@Damphyre Awesome!
Mate. I have an ST59 with an Aircraft Module, it carries up to Bombers and it's deadly AF when you add 2 Skirmisher Fighters and 2 Vitas Bombers.
Nice. I've not got that unlocked yet. Fingers crossed I'll get it soon. It replaces the torps correct?
@@Damphyre I think that's Set C, set B is the one with the Hangar Mod.
in my main account I have both the predator and CV3000(not including the free ones) and I fill them up with all the aircrafts that I have, which are not very good(sandrake, SC002 and stingray) as well as corvettes such as void effin. everything except stingray don't deal a lot of damage against ships, but they are very annoying against enemy aircrafts which means they are good against enemies with carriers. still, wish i had better aircrafts.
The power of aircraft in this game at the moment is so strong. There's a theory on subsystem damage that I'm trying to get more info on. If it's correct aircraft might be the best thing in the game.
There is deffenotly something going on with quick kills has to be lonked to either crits or subsystem damage some times ships just blow up even when they have 75% to 50 % health remaining. My vets do this a lot but my Io and eternal do it fairly often as well
@@xerty5502 there is a critical hit element, but this ability is not limited to fighters and corvettes, some ship weapon does it too.
Information is still hidden, as I don’t think the developers finalized how this mechanics will work yet. There are also modules upgrades increasing subsystem health etc. The developers definitely have something in mind but the current mechanics is clearly not finished.
@@royhuang9715 i am aware and was when i posed it but bot sure if it is the. Critical hit or the system damage we are talken half a bc helth in under a second when the first half took 30 seconds and things like that i sapose every thing could crit at once but it happens to reguraly at about half helth for it to be random chance pretty sure more us going on
I mainly use the AC721 Carrier varient because there easy to rebuild and pretty good.
Edit:I'll replace all my AC721 if I get something like a predator or anything better.
Thoughts on the ST59 with a 4x fighter docking bay add-on?
Not sure. Depends if you're bringing carrier support with them or not. If not the yeah potential useful. If you are then use dedicated ships for it.
Wait it has that? Lol
@@ZoMTDU Spear of Uranus also has that option you know
What sucks more? Having a carrier without any decent aircraft to carry? Or having a lot of decent aircraft without anything to carry them?
Got more chance pulling a carrier even if its say a ceres than a super carrier. So I'd say not having aircraft is probably worse.
I legit have all but one subsystem unlocked for the CV3000 carrier.
I have no idea how this happened. I pulled 4 systems from the beginning of the season boxes, and one other system from a generic coin box.
All I need are bombers.
absolutely love your videos dude. how do you find out that predator is the first "AA" carrier? had nothing but bad luck with fighters AA and just unlocked the pred. does it have a seperate system that makes it only send its fighters against other aircraft?
No what I meant was its the first strong one you can use as AA because of the lots of fighter capacity. Some of the fighters aren't AA unfortunately though so that's maybe where you're having issues. The spores and the janbiya are the top fighters for anti fighter, check those out fo AA.
@@Damphyre ok thanks! I only have sandrakes and those ones that target subsystems. Keep up the great work
When should I stop running healing/support ships or how many are worth keeping in my fleet?
Yeah.. I am with some of the other commentators here.. The Ceres is 8 FP and it heals... while the base predator is 18 fp.. unless you need the durability, it seems the Ceres is better, unless you get the tactical variant or you have > 20 aircraft
The tank is more important. You'll lose ceres pretty quickly and with it the 2 fighters it was carrying. Its a lot lot harder to take out a predator. Plus to top this off, if the enemy is running actual anti air, that heal is completely worthless, all the fighters will be dead before the heal does anything meaningful. Same reason I drop guardians etc late game out of my fleets, they can't keep up with healing.
I just want something better than Andersons and LOLDrakes to put in my CV3k/Ceres. Void Elfins are nice, but not 45 CP worth.
Also, you neglected to mention that the Ceres is the best destroyer carrier both because it is base hull, AND it repairs aircraft for 10% hp when the dock.
Sandrakes are potentially the best anti fighter fighter. If they get fixed, they are quite literally flying shotguns.
@@Damphyre Still, I'm not sure it's worth bringing 40 CP of carrier(got the cost confused with the whale) for 5 LFs worth of anti air, just to also bring 3 Void Elfins, or 2 VEs and 1 Heavy Missile Corvette. I'd take anything not Bullfrog at this point. Stingray, Vitas A, Newlands...
Hello there Damphyre, Need some advice. I just got both the solar whale and cv3000. But the corvette I have is red beast and cv m011 missile variant. While fighter i only have newland. Should i build both carrier with the options that i have? Is it worth it?
Build the cv3k it can carry both the red beast in and the Newlands. They're worth running the cv3k for I feel. The solar whale is vettes only and the cvm011 isn't worth running at all, so keep them parked up for now.
@@Damphyre thanks.
I'd love to see a video on the battlecruiser/carrier. Surely you can com up with all the upgrades even if you yourself don't have them. Which are worth the expense of using and which are not.
Can Verify the CAS Ceres and Armored Eris Strategies will both target to defend all planes in the fleet, and the NOMA will shoot at anything targeting the back row only...
... they're not too accurate at doing so, however
Are they worth it?
@@stevengarcia5210 not slightly. the best AA options are t800, mistral, and then spore, jambiya and sandrake(on kccpv2.0 with tactic so they shoot vettes too) can also mix these 3 with strix for full coverage on Ceres,TundraV, or Predator (ceres support is better than tundra support, and tundra carrier is better for antifighters)
T800 is by and far the best AA though
uavs and ships cant come close to the aa of your fighters and t800
@@kevinsears7300 i had the jambiyas in the kcpp with the strategy, they used to target corvettes but after the update from the various time i used them in that way only one time they targeted the enemies corvette
@@stevengarcia5210 Ill have to ask around, since I use t800s myself nowadays. I used to load kccp with spore, and I know it used to work... ac721 with t800 cuts the fleet cost in half and follows aa with heavy dpm, so Ive been in love with that ever since I got em, and I just got to take shipskill points from cv11003 and add em to my t800, so theyre nearly gold ^_^ kills air in 1-2 minutes and then out dpms the hussars
@@kevinsears7300 Nice, energy weapons are really something :D, if you heard something tell me please
I started running the Tactical Predators. I just presumed the UAVs work to increase hit rate for the entirety of the fleet but never tested it. Did you manage to find evidence that it works precisely like the Light Cone Variant as far as hit rate support goes?
In my opinion the Tactical Predator is a little ridiculous because the Light Cone I’m talking about only carries 1 (one) support UAV while the Predator has 3 UAVs x 2. I just want to know how accurate these support UAVs really are
Also the CV3000 module you were speaking of with the 5 anti-ship UAVs forces you to drop 3 corvette slots, unfortunately.. there is an additional module that gives an additional 3 corvette slots, so… 5 fighters and 6 corvettes per carrier which is utterly insane.
Ok qq I've finally pulled the CV3000, but the only fighters/corvettes I have are the Spore A404, Vitas A021 fighters, Balancer Anderson and the generic SC202. Cellular Defender base version, CV-M011, RedBeast, and CV-11003 Basic corvette so curious which is usable in phase 2
You got what you need then. Run red beasts and spore and vitas
@@Damphyre bout what i figured but what about Cellular Destroyer
Phase I End is in sight but until now i only managed to get a premium Carrier but no Fighters and Bombers :(
Its not fair.
Update: Today i got the "Sandrake" Fighter XD YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS
Hey Damphyre, a simple question, I both the support, and aircraft version of the Ceres and tundra. I'm trying to focus the ships on one variant. Hope I'm making sense, hope you can help.
What's the question though?
@@Damphyre should I make the Ceres support and the tundra the carrier or vice versa. So I can get more out of my ships
OK mate, I've been meaning to ask for a while but held off 'cause it's not on topic: where do you get your music from?
Haha you can ask off topic things too. I try to answer everything. Music is from streambeats you can find it on Spotify. But you can also Google it and they have website, its royalty free so perfect for RUclips or streaming 👍. Also a bunch of genres too if you prefer stuff over the synthwave I use.
@@Damphyre thank you sir. 👌
well, got a bp variant of cv3k which bring 5 uav that target ships weapon system, do i rather use it or the cve (corvette) one?
depends entirely on the rest of your fleet build tbh.
Every time I sent my Solar Whale to a rally it dies
Should of seen what it was like before. It used to sit on the front row at least it's middle now 🤣
agree
Hey Damphyre. You planning to update this one? Anyway, hope you can find time for that. Cheers.
Yeah eventually. I'm hoping to update it once I've seen all the subsystems for the solar whale and the cv3k. Because at the moment the Cv3k wins hands down as I know you can get 5 large fighters and 6 corvettes, which just leaves the solar whale for dead. Then there's the fact that you have the likes of the tundra aircraft type which is very strong early game and a few others that I need to look into more and test.
This video need a remake
Anyone who has tried the CV3000 with the tactical UAVs - are they good?
When do you leave for the new star system?
When the server tasks have all been completed
I've just got the whale. And don't have any good corvettes except the Free one i get on the early game :') sad.
just got the cv3k from a generic bp file ad got lucky a few days ago to get the vitas b010 bomber and the void effin cant w8 to finish the 12h reserch cuz for the moment im using the kccpv2ligh aircraft cruiser and the ac721 to carry the figter/corvette
What about the spear of Uranus carrier configuration. Also AC721 can carry only 2 corvettes not 3
I mentioned I won't cover battlecruisers as the ST59 even gets a fighter hangars. But it's difficult to judge the battlecruisers in this instance as even with those they're still reliant on their weapons not the fighters. I think I got the AC mixed up.
Yea true there would be no point in getting carrier stuff on a battle cruiser since even the best fighters and corvettes wont match the damage they put out
@damphyre sir eariler on, my spear or uranus suddenly exploded like a nuke!! And damages all of my ships lkke a chain reaction also my other 2 uranus also exploded?! But all of my spear of uranus have 80% hp at most. So what happened? Is that possible?
It is either linked to crit damage or subsystem damage have not hade conclusive test yet torpedoes and ion cannons seem to cause this more often then ither weapons in my exp
@@xerty5502 yeah I'm trying to test this out to get information at the moment out to everyone for Thursday. But it's proving difficult
@@Damphyre yea i have not come up with a good way to isloate the factors i lnow ot has to be one of the two but can't teally break it down further because there is not way to see the rral numbers on either of these factor in the hit rate issurs with the hidden accuracy and modifiers and yea this is going to be a mess untill all that data gets data mined.
Can tell same happened here but with Chimeras and st59
Im seeing a nerf to the cv and a serious boost to the whale..
Dunno. The whale has a upgrade to take 12 corvettes in.
@@Damphyre how?!i can only take 6!
what's the background music?
Streambeats on Spotify. The synthwave stuff
@@Damphyre Sweet thanks man! Great vid btw. Another question: is it really worth buying trade ships? You don't get xp or blueprints for them anyway
play his video at 1.25 speed 😉
Lol. Was I a bit fast?
@@Damphyre on the contrary I find it too slow. Which is why I play at faster speed 🙂
@@omni-kinggaming5512 oh 1.25, sorry. Just woke up 😂.
@@Damphyre its ok. You have great contents and I really like your videos.
I also used to be a youtuber in my old account, and I also have the same problem while speaking.
Like so many "uhh", "umm", "so yeah".
It's like my mouth and my brain are not synchronize.
So if I can give one suggestion, maybe use a script or cheat sheet while talking.
I hope it help 🙂
Don't you think Ceres is much much better than Predator? 2 Ceres carry 4xMediums for lower CP cost, they also heal the fighters, they have faster speeds too, lower resources cost. I see no reason to run Predator when you have Ceres. Do you?
I use the predator because I find the ceres gets one-shot late game. You are right the ceres is the clear choice on paper, but the longevity of the predator makes it the winner
@@xt6wagon Depends what you fight. I avoid cruiser carriers because of Callisto
ac721s only carry 2 corvettes, not 3
noted not sure what happened. I have pinned a comment saying I made a mistake.
You forgot kas066 aircraft type
It's in the middle
The AC721 can only carry two corvettes, not three.
Or am I missing something?
It can take 3. I thought the same but think it got buffed maybe? But if you look on the screen when it comes up it says 3
wait nope ignore that it is 2. whoops. I have pinned a comment to correct that.
@@Damphyre mine says 2 corvettes...
edit: your screen in the video also says 2 :)
spoke too soon!
I have to disagree. The AC721 is one of the worst „carrier“ because it has only 20 (24 skilled) armor! That makes thus ship complete worthless. I run them a while with very boostet Cellular Defenders but i give up after a while. The corvettes cant deal her damage when the AC721 is dead! Even with very strong tanks its the same. The enemy has ever some ships that can attack mid or back row.
I did many tests but at the end i take the AC721 + Cellular Defenders out of my fleet and fill up the spots just with some CAS066 and they did more dmg cause they are longer alive. 🤷♂️
You need destroyers to screen for them to many weapons will bypass cruiser and bc tanks because of priorities they work fine if you have proper screens so nope you are wrong
Damphyre, Remake the video everything is off serious just scrap it and remake
In what way? I just checked, audio and video all match up fine.
Hey anyone can i join to your union
Recommend you jump into my discord and ask. As it depends on your server etc. Check the video link description for discord invite.
@@Damphyre thanks man