Cylinder 4 Cooling MOD Install (STI)
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Well you asked for it so here it is! The GetaDomTune Cylinder 4 Cooling mod. Honestly this was much easier than I thought that this install would be. The longest part of this was waiting for the sealant to cure and burning the cooling system. Aside from that pretty straight forward and simple install!
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I appreciate detailed instructionals for us hobbyists.
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For anyone installing on a 13’ STi, I would assume 08-14. It is the hose above the one he tapped into, follow the black metal pipe. I made the mistake and tapped into the other hose.
youre a pimp thanks
How did you know the hose was wrong? I did this to my car, my heater now does not work at idle but works when I’m past 2500 rpm, do you think maybe I cut the wrong hose? My car is not overheating
@@RockoPower123did you ever get a fix I’m having the same issue I believe
@@andrewwilliams5635 yea, what happened was that when I rebuilt the engine, I put the hoses going in the wrong order to the heater core, I just flipped them around and also topped off the coolant on the reservoir since it was low and now it’s fine
@@RockoPower123nice so you didn’t have to retap the coolant mod hose? I’m hoping there’s just some air stuck in these cars are so hard to bleed
Thank you, I just bought my first Subaru and it’s an Sti 2018, lots stuff I need to catch up on, your videos are helping me a lot 👍🏻, I never that I would love Sti way more then my previous vehicle M5 Competition, Sti is a toy for adults for daily drivers. I guess I converted not even noticing to a Subi family, damm this sti so simple and pleasant to work on
Thank you so much for these videos dude. I’ve been waiting for the right timing to purchase a ‘14 STi and it finally happened. It is unmolested with less than 90k miles, so I want to do everything I can to ensure longevity with this engine. I have a long to do list, but your videos are helping me prioritize and put things in a decent order so I can do multiple installs in one round (for example, Mishimoto radiator and cyl 4 cooling mod should be done simultaneously so I only have to burp system once).
So hype! 🤩🥳🎉 🚙 💙
This video gave me the confidence to buy it and do it. Easy job with the right tools. Thanks Tanner!
Anytime! Glad that it helped, it's not too bad of an install to do 😁
Love the video, I would recommend getting a spill free funnel for adding coolant and burping. It firmly attaches to the fill neck for the coolant so it won't leak/spill. It lets you burp and keep extra coolant in the funnel so you don't need to continuously add while burping.
I use to have one and it grew legs and walked out of the garage at some point 😅 lol but I agree the funnel would make life a lot easier so I'm not continously cleaning spilt coolant
@@Smeedia just walked off like the 10mm socket??
@@BlazeOn88 I think it walked off with the 10mm socket..... lmao
Thanks for the video! Doing mine right now and had to come back to this video to double check installation. CSF radiator installed as well. Pro-tune on the 22nd, FINALLY.
Let me know how the protune goes! 🔥😁
I could be wrong but i think the other video i watched on this install he did it from the top and it looked easier.
I attempted it from the top and there was just too much in the way for me to access it but you can go from either direction
Hello Tanner... at risk of sounding like your father, I'll suggest placing a solid support under the frame of the car. Don't trust that a hydraulic jack won't fail, and your car will end up crushing you. Very easy to have happen for several reasons. *Plan B is always a good BACK up plan to live by. Cheers P-fizz.
Thank you for sharing. I just got myself a Forester and was trying to find this mod!
Eyyyy congrats on the forester!
@@Smeedia Thanks man! It's my first Subie.
I did this mod and found an unpleasant side effect in winter. I get no heat unless I bring the RPMs up, even with the coolant warmed up to 84C.
If you're in a colder climate, please keep that in mind.
Dude! As another NW subi owner, love your videos! As always stay safe my dude!
Appreciate the support and glad they're helping my man!
Been waiting for this one , along with equal length header's it's good insurance against cylinder 4 failure !
Oh yes! Need to get a set of ELH still!
UEL headers generate more heat which transfers into the block, the longer unequal length cause the heat to take longer to travel through the pipe so it gets hotter increasing the chances of knock
Nothing to worry about and completely normal 👍
@Darren Desantis youd have to worry if your dam changes from 1.000. Such low knock is probably phantom knock.
Man this vid was perfect timing. I just learned about this mod at a TMG meetup just last night. Thanks for the great walkthrough.
It was fate that it came out today 😅 it really is a simple yet beneficial mod to do. Glad that it helped you out 😁
@@Smeedia hey I just did this install and between your vid and Dom's instructions I completed it no issues. Well I did get coolant all over me despite my best efforts .
I was also covered on coolant 🤣 glad that you were able to get it done with little to no issue though!
Am new to the subaru scene and definitely fona get this mod on my 2015 sti
Just so you know, those red hose cutters you got from Amazon can be found at Home Depot.
Good video. Thanks for the knowledge! Didn't even know there was a cooling issue for the #4 cylinder. My 2015 STI is stock, save for a Mishimoto intake. This seems like a worthwhile upgrade. Who makes the white wheels that you had on the car? My STI is the same color and I like the look!
Definitely worth it! And they're work emotion D9Rs 🙏😁
Thanks for the walk through. I have an EJ and this I probably the best video to see where that plug is. I do have a question though. I’m just finished a timing belt change and I want to clean my covers. What do you use to clean those and the engine?
For the plastic covers just engine depressed and some rags 🔥🙏
Love the video man did you have any jack stands under the car or just relying on that little baby jack to not come down on you make sure you have jack stands next time.
I had two Jack stands and the jack under the car, one in the front and back. Last thing I would want is a 4200 lb car coming down on me 😅 appreciate you looking our though!
I've been looking at these. I'm going to get one but I spent alot on transmission fluid, tow hooks, and oil catch can.
Well worth the money and the investment!
@@Smeedia no doubt man. Cant wait to get mine
just did mine a little bit ago...yea i hate coolant. did a oil change also so i just hate car fluids today. but seems all good with no leaks and then went out and finished my etune
Score! Yeah I got COVERED in coolant when I did it
This video is very much needed! Thank you!
Anytime, thank you for the support!
I did this to my car, my heater now does not work at idle but works when I’m past 2500 rpm, do you think maybe I cut the wrong hose? My car is not overheating
Tanner! So I did end up picking up a 15 STI Limited!! Question about the cooling mod, Is this something recommended in general or because of Unequal length headers? Or is it just a good upgrade regardless of ULH or ELH and has nothing to do with that.
The header don't have anything to do with it. The header is an EGT issue, the cyl 4 cooling mod addresses coolant issues. Wouldent say it's 100% but never hurts. And congrats on the car!!!
@@Smeedia Got it! Thanks!! I haven’t stopped smiling yet and find every excuse to drive it lol
This will be so much easier with my engine out. Wish I would have waited to pull the engine before struggling with the Killer B pick up install! LOL
Experienced my first time with my car being heatsoaked. After a year of owning it i almost stalled taking a right turn downshifting to 2nd. God forbid i get a delayed response. Sucks but thats what happens when your in arizona lol. Gotta get this mod soon
You need a 2 row radiator too 😅, im looking for one too, first cooling mod and change all fluids, then bushings that worn out, new spark plugs and filters, just got new wipers, just refresh all and improve cooling system, it should run for a long time if you keep it stock, there still some small mods that will help with oil etc… but you should be golden 👌
@Atlan_tis I only worry about it during the summer. Well mainly from May to September here in AZ. Any cooling mods sound nice considering I dont have any mods but a catback. Going for the 4 cylinder mod once I do a coolant change. Really wish subaru kepted the tmic sprayer for all years. It was 104 a couple days ago. Car does not like the heat lol
@@sunnydee7745 I live in California, is not hot yet, but we just had 98F couple days ego, I know it will get hotter 114f for sure, to get this mod is important, I ordered this line and I’m looking for a 3row radiator from Mishimoto, and new coolant, my 2018 sti is stock too, im planing to do mods for reliability, at same time looking for cat back exhaust too
@Atlan_tis I dont plan on driving when it's that hot, ill take my silverado instead 😅 but yeah bro, cooling mods are a must for these vehicles. I have a Tomei catback, pretty loud and sounds amazing, if your looking for that I'd recommend it
If you leave a funnel in the fill tank, the bubbles will splash then drip back down into the tank.
I love watching your videos they are very helpful and easy to follow! I just have a few questions for you because I am looking to get a 2015 wrx
What questions do you got 😁
Smeedia well I’m looking into buying a 2015 WRX but my dream car is the STI. I can afford the STI but won’t be able to put much mods or I can get the WRX and put many more mods! Making power. I keep on hearing things from everyone that the Sti is better but other people think the wrx is better Ita just a really hard decision
Smeedia as well what rims are those!?
@@devonmacrae2020 honestly it all comes down to what you want as an end goal for the car. The wrx will be better for city driving as all the torque is down low. I would say that drive both and see what one you prefer.
Smeedia thank you for advice it’s just a really hard decision lol
SMEEDIA !! whats up my subie Guru. Quick question, in order to add the conditioner to the coolant. Do i 1st pinch the cyl 4 coolant hose, bleed the coolant system then release the pinched hose? Or can i add the coolant conditioner before releasing the pinch on the hose then bleed ts ?
Do I still need this mod with equal length headers?
Do I need a tune after installing this? I just got my very first Sti and it’s a 2018
No you do not 🙏
Great video man! I just did this on my 2020 STI last week and today I found coolant splashing all over my radiator cap for some reason. The car is 5 months old with 7K miles on it and I doubt its the cap. Should I burp the system again if air caused this?
Check around the cap for small cracks in the radiator if it all looks good I would suggest burping again
Would you recommend this on a stock STI or is the cyl4 cooling issue only a real issue with modded cars?
For a stock car there is really no need 🙏
@@Smeedia thank you!
Great video! I just got the torque solution cylinder 4 mod put on my car and will be posting a video also!
Yesssssss
You should also get
Blow off
Turbo timer
And the most expensive catch can, lol (aos)
Also dont use a genuine mac valve as an ebcs
What exhaust you have? I have a 2020 wrx and looking for a good sounding exhaust I considered nameless muffler deletes but idk if it's gunna sound good like yours..
At the time if this it was a Cobb downpipe and ETS catback 🙏
Guys, if you see your temperature rises a little after install, all is ok, it’s just cylinder 4 was the hottest one and cylinders #1,2 and 3 been the coldest , now the heat from #4 transfers trough coolant to number 1,2,3 and keeps # 4 cooler, now it is even , just get for your Subaru a better radiator and you will be golden 👌, if this not enough then I don’t know lol, get additional 2 small radiators and install it behind the front bumper vents on the side, like BMW M5 has, not sure if you will need additional pump to run it when car is off to cool everything off, just a thought 💭, steal some ideas from Germans guys 😅
I installed this mod and after seeing exactly what you say, I decided to removed it, it iwas not funny to see my car around 98-102 C.
I upgraded the radiator but I am still not sure about installing it again.
Thanks for your comment, that is exactly I wanted to know.
i tried to click on the link for the cooling mod and the part is discontinued. Is there somewhere else to get it or is there a more up to date part. I just bought my first STi. a 2017
Have you had this mod on all your STis? Just tryna see if it’s absolutely necessary or if I take good care of my car I can get away without it.
Not on all of them, some I've used it on and others I haven't. Tbh haven't seen any differences between values in them
@@Smeedia cool brotha cool 😎
How did this mod impact your heating system? I had to put a restriction pill so my heat works while moving.
@smeedia Is this as important for an N/A EJ25 as it is for a turbo?
Hey man, just bought my first subaru. Really appreciate your knowledge and thoroughness on the aos/occ. picked up the iag setup you went over. Now i know my 15’ is a fa and doesn’t utilize an ej platform is there a way to make it work on my engine? Trying to square away with all the preventative stuff while i have the coolant out of it for the most part, thanks in advance!
So lucky for you, the FAs do not have thr same issue and do not need this mod 🥳
@@Smeedia hey man does installing this required a tune?
No🤝
@@Smeedia FA engines don’t need an AOS or catch can? How does the PCV system work differently in a way that it doesn’t need it? I thought every turbocharged car would benefit from a catch can.
most video shows people use the lower radiator hose to drain coolant, i kinda like the oil cooler one as it doesnt make a huge mess and i dont have to mess with plastic radiator
Makes for a little bit of a cleaner install so your not covered in coolant 🙏
@@Smeedia very true lol and also when i installed the getaDomtune cooling mod the way the aluminum feel when you torque down the nut is kinda very tight and couldnt torque it the way i torque metals. its almost feels like you are tightening up two sets of aluminum bolt and nut. it only torques about 1-2 centimeter lol
As long as it doesn't leak, I wouldent stress it too much 🙏
@@Smeedia yea thats true, thanks bro 👍
What is the difference between using the right stuff GREY vs BLACK? I have black in stock at my job and I am not sure if I can use it for this install?
Black is a bit more chemical resistant
Either will work fine tbh 🙏
@@Smeedia cool! Then I'll go ahead and use the black one then 👍
Did you remove the stock air pump or are you still running it? Hard to tell with the angle of the video.
Still running the air pump until my next tune
Thank you
Dumb question but you don't need a tune for this right?
No tune needed 🤙
Want to do this but I just flushed my system. Probably do this when summer comes around
Would you say overall cooling of the engine has improved with this mod and if yes, why hasn't Subaru implemented this simple mod eons ago? thx
I wouldn't say overall cooling changed but I did see a reduction in cyl roughness on cyl 4. As to why subaru has not implemented this I couldn't tell ya 😖
Do I need this mod if I have equal length headers
Is it ok if I can’t see my exact coolant temp? Stock 2018 STI with no access port but wanting to do this mod
Yes your still good, I just find it washer to read temp off the AP 🙏
Would you say that this mod would be even more beneficial. When used with an upgraded radiator like koyo?
Hey Smeedia
Love your channel bro
I just install my cylinder 4 cooling mod on 2012 sti. I connect my fitting to my top heater hose.
Is it wrong? Or should I re-do it?
Drove it for 30min with no problem. Feed back knock stay at 0 now. Before I was 1 or 2. Any thoughts?
I beilive you want it on the bottom one which is return but moniter the coolant temos if everything looks okay I would leave it. Swapping out the hose would be a huge PIA
@@Smeedia Thank bro. Yes I will keep a eye out on it. But do u think It will cause a problem later on down the road?
I dont think so? But cannot confirm that 😅
I know it's been a year, but do you have a new link for the kit? It says discontinued
www.maperformance.com/products/getadomtune-cylinder-4-chamber-cooling-system-multiple-subaru-fitments-coolingsystem-ej?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkZKNBhDiARIsAPsk0WjRCRB4W_83u8uNL2OVe-NOBCmdbLuLHMsVmaEK30oZUBZFfIxsk4QaAhY9EALw_wcB
Looks like they're on back order right now 😖
Instead of draining the coolant can you just pinch the hose both side when installing the metal T fitting?
No, the coolant will come out of the back of the block as well 😖
Would this need any sort of tune? And/or will the ecu have to learn any new values such as fkl ? Apologies if that doesn’t really make sense
Nope, no tuje needed and thr ECU does not need to re learn
Did you delete the bottom engine cover permanently?
Yes I did 🙏
just another good video! also.. lmao you still have confetti falling
Its everywhere 🤣 I thought I had cleaned it up. Guess not 😅
will this cause issues with powertrain warranty? i dont see how they could possibly claim it contributed to a failure
also is this risky to do without a thermostat?
Did you ever end up pinching off the cooling mod before burping the system? I know you had mentioned it in your video (and says in the instructions), but not sure if you actually did it. Is it absolutely necessary to do?
I did not do it, just took me longer to burp the car 😅
jacking the front end up helps bleed and youll know its bled when the fans come on and go through a few heat cycles
When you jack up the front end your putting the radiator higher than the upper coolant res, I've seen a few people use that method but hit or miss from my experience
For some reason I couldn’t get my 06 wrx to bleed after a water pump timing belt job till I jacked it up and finally started going through heat cycles with the fans
Where is the 4th cylinder located when standing in front of the car?
Back right
What model years are affected by lack of cooling on cylinder #4 and are we talking about just the STI model or all Turbo models?
I believe it’s an issue with the EJ 255 & EJ 257 engines. So 08-14 WRX & STI’s for sure. Pretty sure they were other subies using the ej 255 engines too.
@@TheRandomname951 Appreciate the response my dude.
Does that gasket maker need anytime frame to cure? I read something that you have to wait 24hrs before filling it with coolant and burping it?
Honestly just give it like an hour and it'll be fine 🙏
Need some help. Is the bottom hose coming from the heater core normally go to the outer most hose going to the engine right side (drivers side). Hope im making sense. Thanks
Not quite sure what your asking lol your going to want to tap into the inner most hise
Quick question would the sti cooling mod for the 2018 wrx??
No it would, the wrx does not need it 🙏
Where should ej255 owners drain from as there isn't that same location that you used?
Did you cut the Dom hose too? I see the instructions have some cutting involved
Nope, left it the length it came and it was the perfect length! 😁
You only cut it for 2007 and earlier models
Front mount intercooler you are went for power so wonder why not go all the way and get equal header and not bother with cooling mod. I’m guessing you wanna keep rumble
I ended up going with Killer B ELH, when I first went to the dyno it was not in my budget, second time around (later videos) it swapped to ELH
@@Smeedia got you. Good videos
Any issues since you’ve done this mod? No internal leaks?
Did this make a difference in cooling if so how much of a difference
No difference in general cooling however there are temperature differences in cylinder 4. Dom has some charts about the cooling delta on their website
Hi, excellent video! What is the size of the hose and the fitting on it?
5/8th 🙏
What did you end up using to tighten the fitting to block? The crescent wrench or big ass 1in wrench??
Just the Cresent wrench 🙏
Hey so why not vacuum bleed instead of using a funnel to burb it? Vacuum bleeding it would get all the air out in one try (most likely), if not then just pull a vacuum a second time.
At the time, did not have the tools to do so
What’s the tire/wheel setup you got going on? Looking a little saucy bro!
🔥😤🔥
Thank you! These are qork wmotion D9R 18x9.5 +38 on 235/40/18s
What are your thoughts of putting it a stock 2013 wrx with 66k on it? Dope channel!
Definitely will benefit the car 🙏🙌
@@Smeedia Thanks for your input!
Why do you need this mod?
Help keep cyl 4 cooler. Inadequate coolant flow from the factory
u actually used the 1 minute gasket maker lol. but yea how did you screw in the mod? with your hand? also, when u cutt the hose, more coolant came out? cant we just drain from the petcock under the radiator? to take out all the coolant? or gotta take it out from the oil cooler?
You can drain it from the radiator but I did not want to refill the entire cooling system lol. And I would say about 8 oz. Of coolant came out after cutting the hose 😅
Smeedia you threaded the cooling mod by hand? since you used the 1minute permatex?
Just to get it started, used a small crescent wrench to tighten it down
Brother I hope you're having a great weekend so far . I also got a quick question..do they make these for FA20 motors? All I see is for older wrxs. Mine is a 2019 .
No need for one for the FA WRXs, they have a better cooling system than the EJ motors so no need 😁😁
@@Smeedia awesome! Dam bro thanks for the fast response 👌 keep doing what you're doing. There's alot of potential in you and the channel 😎
@@Frankyjs24 I'm here for the community 🙌 appreciate the feedback and lots more videos on the way 🔥
Where exactly is that bolt that needs to be removed for the fitting of the coolant mod?
I’m having difficulty finding it from these videos.
Left side of engine block? Above left axle?
If your sitting in the driver's seat its on the back of the left side head
Smeedia you’re awesome
Smeedia alright does I just saw a picture of it. But since the cylinder faces outwards, driver side, is the bolt to be removed on the same flat side as cylinder 2 and 4? Or is it underneath the block? Or on top of the block?
I don’t want to pay $150 to this mechanic which is why I’m asking
The plug is on the back side of cyl 4 facing the rear of the car right behind the steering rack and the secondary air pump location
Would this be necessary or even worth it for someone in Alaska where temps rarely reach 80° in the summer, and summer is short? Basically only drive the Subie when I can't ride my motorcycle, and then drive it all winter where temps are generally 20°F to -40°F.
Yes I would still suggest it, internal engine temps and ambient temps are correlated but the engine will always get to operating temperature and the increased coolant flow will still benefit the engine
Smeedia thanks for the info! I'll look into ordering one for my series white! Coming from a WRX so I'm super excited, want to do this and the AOS for longevity.
Can I use these "good stuff" sealant on the new oil pan? Planing on doing them both so I wont need to buy 2 different sealants if it works for both places, because I saw you used a different sealant on the killer b oil pan
I would use the RTV Black for the pan, theyre rated for 2 different temps and you wpuldent want the pan to leak after reinstalling it 😅
Hey. Did you ended up using 2 gallons of coolant?
Wanna say it was like 1.2 gallons
Good video🤙🏽managed to get it installed but when came to burping the system I followed all the steps but the coolant isn’t travelling into my heater matrix now and my heating is not getting hot even after running the car for nearly an hour with heating on full blast, has anyone got any tips?
They revving the car a few times, tends to help 🙏🙏
@@Smeedia it is the same hose to tee into on a 07 WRX right? The one attached to the black metal pipe
Should be the lower pipe, but yes I belive it is black too
@@Smeedia thanks yeah I left it running a bit longer, just took way longer than I had thought it would for my heating to work properly, left it to idle for about an hour and it only came back to normal after driving it around all day! But all sorted now, thanks for the vid dude🤙🏽
Death by Grammarly and etoro ads....killed it!
Lol Grammer and spelling always been awful, now I use grammerly for everything 😅😅😅
Is RingLand failure unavoidable though???
With any car no problem is 100% unavoidable but we can take the preventive measures to mirage the risks
there's 1 of the Air Pump ports right next to the Cooling mod port.
Yup! I just did the air pump delete today got both of em 🔥
I cannot find that kit anywhere in stock. Is there anyway you can send me a list of the components used so I can make my own🤷🏼♂️🙏🏻
Just a metal T fitting, some heater core house, worm gear clamps and the plug to the back of thr block (not sure on the thread pitch off of the top of my head)
Smeedia what size hose and fittings
I want to say 1/2" but Off the top of my head I have no clue, I would pull up one of the vendors who sells it and just pull their specs and mirror it to make you own. You should be able to get everything at the auto parts store.
Smeedia Thanks man I greatly appreciate it
Question I've been looking for this video where people use a temp gun to see if it actually drops cylinder temp. Can you notice a difference after installing this?
I saw reduced knock over longer periods of driving, aside from that not sure how far Temps actually decreased
@@Smeedia thanks for your info!
Wouldn't it be better just to run equal length headers to avoid this issue?
Equal length header deals with uneven and high EQTs and makes no difference on thr cooling system. This addresses the cooling system.
Do the FA’s also need a cylinder 4 cooling mod?
No sir
Hey Tanner can you install the cooling mod without bleeding the coolant out? Can you just pinch off the two ends of the coolant line with something then install the T fitting?
No, once you pop off the plug on the back of the block it will pee coolant everywhere
@@Smeedia ah gotcha. Thank you!
Bro parts stores here don't take coolant back but I'm guessing that dealers have a recycling option. What did you do with the old coolant?
Dropped it off at Subaru, have a buddy who works there that recycled it for me 😁
Smeedia Awesome!!!
Is the plastic T fitting really something to be concerned about compared to the stainless?
Over time the plastic can start to break down but should be fine using the plastic one. I wanted the metal for a little extra security
Unfortunately I live in California so buying elh to help keep cylinders 2 & 4 cooler isn't gonna happen (if someone knows where to get carb compliant headers let me know or a way to get any headers in this state). This will help as well, though, so I'll definitely be grabbing one of these.
I'll look around for a carb set and see what I can find 🤔
@@SmeediaThanks man. Much appreciated. ✌🏻
Cool video!! .. You missed the redbull :P
Did you add the coolant conditioner? The service manual calls for it to be added.
I did not, I generally dont use it because I'm always doing something that requires me to pull coolant every few months so did not use it but if you know your not going to drain coolant then you can.
Which tool did you end up using to tighten the fitting? 👍🏽
A crescent wrench 😅 I had a super small one that I was able to get enough leverage on to be able to tighten the fitting
Fantastic video! You may have answered this in the 300+ comments, and I may have missed it. Has this been a warranty issue with enthusiasts? Just want to make sure the benefits outweigh the risk to my Series. White I guess.
Unfortunately it does give the dealer a reason to deny any potential warranty claims you might make 😖
@@Smeedia Damn! I think I knew the answer, but was hoping for a silver lining or something. Thank you
well done sir
🙏🙏🙏
at 4:34, that's the only port you disconnect to drain all the coolant, bro?
Yessir, drained it all from the oil cooler