After watching the first entry I decided to check back when the series was complete. Now that it is, I binged it start to finish and was not disappointed. This is a colossal piece of work, Prof. Thank you for doing this!
Back in my teens I was a Christian who was extremely interested in Christian apologetics. Now in that one video where you classify them, you spoke of a least unscientific kind- still unscientific, just less so than the dudes believing in Young Earth and all that nonsense. I was that kind of guy. Mostly because I come from a European Orthodox millieu that never had much of a problem with science in comparison to American protestants, in a post-socialist country where scientists are all but idolized. It was the philosophical arguments I believed were the only legitimate venue for genuine Christian apologetics. Now, when I am an atheist, I can't wait to watch you tear through that notion and see if I arrived at some of the points you mention during my deconversion. Btw, you played a massive role in that as well as educating me a great deal in the natural sciences that were largely left behind during my humanities focused education. I can't thank you enough for that.
What was it that led you to deconversion? I moved the other direction, from an atheist in very secular Scotland to broadly Reformed Christian. Never had a problem witrh science either, I actually converted between getting my BSc and MSc.
@@alanbaker6837 Yes, although I was a bit disappointed. This is clearly the weakest video in the series, Dave does not seriously engage with the objections to his objections and is decades behind the literature in philosophy of religion. Graham Oppy and Alex Malpass are my favourites for really tackling these theistic arguments and offering a strong alternative
@@a.i.l1074 Well, philosophy isn't really his thing. This video was probably just intended as a miscellaneous collection and wrap up on the broader context.
@@Nxck2440 Which is fine. The science videos were excellent, and I accept all the findings he reported. If Dave wants to say I'm still a creationist because I think there's a creator God prior to all the science, I won't quibble
Sometimes I watch these around my family, they call Dave “rude” and “condescending”. My favorite of these was when my dad called Dave “a sick man”, my family is great but they get extremely defensive when I mention talking points that even have the slightest hint of being “anti-Christian”(whatever the hell that means). Long story short I used to be a Christian, I would always listen to everything that I was told about the religion, I can not remember one thing I discovered by myself, everything was spoon fed to me. One day, a video from Dave’s channel washed up in my recommended, at this point in time I was already unsure that the Christian god was really there. Dave’s videos have not only educated me but have also informed me more than any religion ever will. Thanks Dave, keep making awesome videos! (P.S- Dave, feel free to turn “you’re a sick man” into merch! I would buy it!!!!)
religion can help people emotionally but its damaging when people think its fine to abuse animals and plants without fearing the possibility of reincarnation being true. many religious people that i spoke to have no fear of reincarnation. wildlife exploitation is a serious modern day issue and the unnatural changes could be causing alot of suffering in other organisms. i fear reincarnation.
@@infiniteworfare5089 sorry, I didn’t get your point before. If it works it works- yes reincarnation can act as a deterrent but it’s not an effective one. LSS- reincarnation won’t work on everyone, it would be a better idea to educate people on the issues of animal cruelty and the effects of what it does to populations as well as how it relates to us. This would be a better deterrent because it stands on factual grounds that can be empirically demonstrated instead of an emotional appeal to some process that can’t be. If that makes any sense (it’s so late).
@@yellowbacon69 wildlife exploitation cannot be fixed easily. domesticating animals alone is morally wrong as we dont know their physiology and they are unable to undergo proper natural selection from limited conditions.
@@infiniteworfare5089 yeah, I made it seem like I was trying to hand wave the whole proble of domestication/abuse of animals away. That’s not what I was doing, to be clear I believe that through proper education we can gain insight into the problems of these issues and hopefully find ways to reduce them. We can’t stop it, but we can reduce it.
The problem is that "my religion" is invariably translated to their children. Which means that in most cases, that "GTFO" scenario happens in probably the most insidious way possible. So, personally, I have a hard time ever coming away with "Ok, cool" as there's rarely a distinction between the two cases.
What about my religion being an evolutionary result of the societal phenomenon, and it did not forbid anything unless it was harmful, but we forgot the reason for the prohibition, so I forbid you from doing it. It is like the societal laws that are set by humans
Honestly, thank you. As someone who went to YEC schools and was brainwashed (mainly my teachers regurgitating Kent Hovind talking points), I appreciate every single video that aims to bring people closer to the truth.
Why care if all that's going to happen is we die and that's it? I'm actually afraid that atheist are right, but I don't understand why it matters. Christine's actually do do good things to help people out, that doesn't make there beliefs true but really why does it matter to care what happens to the world after your gone when our brains shut off and that's the end of us. Nothing matters hell would even be better, and yes for real.
@@jeffreyanderson6740 Atheists also do good things to help people out, without the coercion or promise of reward/punishment incentives to do said things. However, Christians (and basically all Theists) also do terrible things specifically in the name of their faith. The faith allows and excuses these terrible acts. It allows murder and torture, and gives the faithful the false idea that they are superior based solely on that faith. "Christians do good things" is a really bad argument, one you should probably avoid if you want to be taken seriously in a video board like this one. When was the last time you saw something like "Today the agnostic rebels shelled the atheist stronghold, and several civilians were killed" on the news. Anyone can do good things and do. It takes a special kind of crazy to do bad things and dismiss it as acceptable due to an iron age fictional book.
@SkiesKurosawa I can't accept such an answer, sorry. What you just said isn't related to my question. In my opinion, you should've restrained from commenting if you were just going to say that, man.
@@forwardechoes I don't engage with comments normally but here's my take on the quote. I live in the Pacific Northwest. There's an area in my state called the "channeled scablands" which I have visited multiple times. The cliffs and canyons in the area were considered so unusual that it bugged scientists and geologists for quite a time. Due to science being done they found out they were carved out through a series of cataclysmic floods brought on by Glacial Lake Missoula during the ice age about 15,000 years ago. They found this out by examining rock formations, strata layers, and running simulations. That's a lot of science. And I've had people preach to me that it was actually evidence of a global flood brought on by a vengeful and angry god without explanation or evidence. (A little, in fact hardly science) One visit to the Columbia River gorge and you start asking "How the hell did it take 40 days and 40 nights to form all this??" (@ProfessorDaveExplains how did I do with that explanation?)
“Faith does not give you the answer. It just stops you asking the questions.” -Frater Ravus “It’s called faith because it’s not knowledge.” --Christopher Hitchens “Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.” --Tim Minchin “Faith, if it is ever right about anything, is right by accident.” --Sam Harris
Yea lets not expect someone to change their whole worldview so quickly. Dave even said in this video that people are resistant due to the psychological weight.
People are never convinced out of their religious beliefs, to them there is too much at state on an existential level. This is something they have to come to on their own. The best you can do is sow seeds of doubt.
The sad reality is that no matter how easily you break it down, no matter how compassionately you try to relate it, there will always be people who refute it.
I was once a christian, because of family influence during my childhood. But ever since I encountered science during my childhood, my curiosity has been keep ablazing. Until I get to actually study based on my curiosity during my undergraduate years and actually do science (with undergrad research), is when I was able to get the holistic idea of science being an amazing tool of inquiry the human race had invented. With my growing knowledge on Biology, especially the amazing factual phenomenon of evolution, refuted all of my blind faith that was otherwise becoming a cognitive bias ever since my childhood. I am glad my curiosity didn't burned out and affected my rationality. Right now, I am doing a PhD in Molecular Biology and Biotechnology in hopes I get to contribute with this amazing pool of knowledge. With the rise of conspiracies and misinformation, we need people like you to be the voice of science.
while i agree with the science, science is becoming rather dangerous with time. humans have forced animals and plants to suffer in domesticated conditions and have altered their physiology using genetic engineering while also taking away their reproductive rights. this goes completely against nature and its unknown how bad these organisms can suffer from unnatural changes. even humans are suffering with mental illness as a result. our problems started from wildlife exploitation where we evolved weaknesses which caused us to experience pain and death in very abnormal ways.
This series is incredible, I’ve loved checking RUclips after my morning class to see if you put the next part out yet. I will definitely refer back to these videos for when I eventually tell my family I haven’t been religious for two years. Thanks for everything you do Dave!
That's just a dirty tactic used to keep their congregations from investigating evolution. Because it's a religion, looking into evolution and trying to understand it would be as sacrilege reading the Quran! It's pathetic.
@SkiesKurosawa Case in point, you're uneducated and don't know anything. So uneducated that you can't even engage with the content and try to debunk it, all you can say is "nuh uh!" and "ur a cult!". There are kids in Grade 9 with more knowledge of science than you. It's pathetic.
Something weird has happened among these people over the past 40 years. When I was a student in a VERY conservative (Calvinist) Christian college in the early 80s, my biology professor spoke openly about the facts of evolution, which was mind-blowing for many of us young, innocent Christian kids. This nonsensical “design” stuff was not part of our curriculum back then.
No idea which educational establishment you attended but back in the late 70's my parents removed me from the public school system (because our schools were ordered to desegregate by the US Supreme Court, this was not a southern state mind you) and enrolled in a private Christian Fundamentalist school of the Independent Baptist persuasion. Our science curriculum taught the earth was 6,000 years old. That evolution was a satanic lie told by the "world" to trick us. That this world was created for us because we are "Gods" special creation. That we as people are meant to have dominion over everything on earth which is why "we" choose which animals our livestock will breed with and which animals we allow to thrive. Same with plant life. The list goes on and on. This was the era of the Moral Majority and Ronald Reagan. I remember talk about how they needed to get their people in positions of power to enact change. We, students, were their tools to enact that vision. EDIT: to add, it took me the better part of a decade to undo the damage inflicted during my years at two of these schools. I have not subscribed to this theology or any other religious theology in close to 30 years now.
They're a small sect of grifters. I'm surprised their schools aren't teaching the kids how to do the grift instead of indoctrinating them into their fairy tale, they'd probably be able to spread their cancer easier. But I guess they need some form of revenue.
It highly depends on where you grew up. You can look up maps showing where, at present, evolution/abiogenesis/big bang are taught or not taught which can be pretty alarming. Even these maps aren't 100% accurate because there can be places where it's technically supposed to be taught according to state curriculum but, due to local religious saturation, teachers can end up discouraged from teaching it, even to the point of losing their jobs or being run out of town if they don't toe the line. You can grow up in a religious area and learn all about evolution/abiogenesis/big bang while two cities over students learn about none of it even though you're supposed to be receiving the same education.
I wish I could believe that someday we'd be without bad faith actors like FEs, Creationists, far-R-wing grifters, social reactionaries, corpos, delulu techbros etc. but knowing that they've always been there weighing down the rest of us, and will likely always be there spewing something about something, its just so disheartening. Its like a perpetual debuff on the progress of humanity.
I fear that one of the few things sci-fi gets right is that no matter how advanced humanity will become, there will always be religious cults and grifters.
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 They know that, so they have to push down on average living standards occasionally. They've been stamping pretty hard since 2008.
You can also come at this from the opposite angle, about how insisting that the Bible is a natural science textbook cheapens its spiritual message. It's a genre error to try to find the Big Bang and evolution in Genesis 1.
@@alexiscorral5594 I did this when I was a fundie Xtian. I used the "dust of the Earth" scripture as evidence the Bible was scientifically prescient. I showed how the human body is comprised of the same chemical elements most abundant in the Earth's crust. Only recently, 40 years later, did I realize it could be a simple metaphor. At the time of its writing, common vessels such as pottery and vases were created from clay. The author simply projected the creation of a clay pot to the creation of man. It makes more sense than a divinely inspired awareness of stellar nucleo-sythesis.
@@HessianHunter Yes it is an error to look for the big bang in Genesis 1, because it's not there. But it is very much correct to look for a flat earth formed 6000 years ago by god, because that is in Genesis. People that pick and choose the parts of scripture they like are hypocrites, and it's no less hypocritical when you rule that the parts falsified by science and history must have a deeper spiritual interpretation.
I had a friend who decided to troll some Creationists by basically using their playbook to claim that their god is false and existence was shaped by the Time Lords from Doctor Who.
The "it's just a theory" argument is literally just them not realizing that words can have different definitions in different contexts. theory: 1. a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena 2. a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation **this is the only definition they know**
@@davisdf3064Yeah as a linguistic student one thing I recognised that's very sad is that area of science and general public does not share the same vocabulary, this really creates a big idea translation gap between the two meaning that 1. New people stepping inside scientific area would have misunderstanding going in 2. Non scientific area people cannot have a accurate idea as of what the logic behind the new discovery means and often can only browse it as magic or use something they're more familiar in day to day life as a bad representation to it (ex. Using macro physics to describe quantum phenomenon)
Videos like these are always a breath of fresh air to me. The way you break down complex concepts and systems and articulate them so flawlessly in such an organized manner is a treat.
@@undine8750you can take your daily vitamin intakes and a sip of liquid mercury at the same time, but you know stop doing one of it would really help you extend your life
@@thecoolestcorgi4991 as you delve deep into science, your religion will start to fade away and seem untrue. its not possible to believe in evolution and religion at the same time. evolution says that we evolved from unintelligent organisms and it doesnt make sense to know origins of organisms before we developed our intelligence.
The first real shake to my Faith - not that I was all that Devout to begin with - was when I was chatting with my Youth Pastor and he told me that he "filters" all new information that he learns about, _through_ his Faith in God. I was 14 or so and hadn't quite pieced together that he was basically taking pride in anti-intellectualism, but once I got into Philosophy during my undergrad brought it into focus.
I cannot thank you enough for talking about these things and helping people see the truth about religion. Even if you just change one person's mind, it'll all be worth it. Love the videos and I can't wait to see the next debunk video.
"How do you know, you weren't there!" How do you know your grandparents birthed your parents? You weren't there. How do you know Tolkien really wrote the lord of the rings? You weren't there.
We really don't "know" anything. It is all accepted upon faith on historians and the dissemination of knowledge. Did we land on the Moon? We have lots of evidence and testimony supporting the claim. We don't really know about our own life experiences. Memories can be corrupted and even unconsciously manufactured or dreamt.
This video is great! Definitely the most useful in the series because it's broad and anyone should be able to understand it, whereas the others deal with more esoteric science that requires people to be invested in. All the videos in this series are great though. Thank you!
This really was the definitive guide. Thank you for this masterpiece of a short series! I hope it takes hold because there really is a mass danger and we need to press ourselves as a species to leave religious extremism behind forever.
I am religious and believe that God is real. That said, I am still a scientist. The complexity of existence is fiendishly mind bending. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang theory. I think the Lord created all the natural phenomenon. Should we somehow prove 100% how the universe began, I will have to rethink my beliefs. I hate how other religious people try and use faith to discredit our work as scientists. Edit: I seem to have not been clear enough, and I would like to make it more clear, I am not a creationist, nor do I use religion to make hypotheses. Instead I have adapted my faith to fit with the science and facts we have. My faith fills the gaps of what we don’t know, but for me personally. I don’t want to try and convert anyone since that is just annoying. Faith and Science are not mutually exclusive, and I don’t try to make them be, but faith must be the secondary part of a belief system, rationalism and fact will always supersede where they conflict.
@@stewystewymc3929 There is no need to be rude about someone being religious, but to answer you question. Yes, I believe evolution is the result of natural processes. I believe in a God that created the laws of nature and science to operate as they do so we can learn and understand. To grow as living beings. He made them and let them get to work. Thanks for listening
@@AlbertaGeek I hope life treats you better that you treat those you believe to be intellectually inferior due to a belief. I did not, and do not, subscribe to creationism. I wish to study the origin of life once I finish my masters degree in medical microbiology. I simply chose to believe in a higher power. Hope this clears anything up!
@@thecoolestcorgi4991 well you seem like a fairly reasonable person. I don't have much of a problem with theists like you. I still think your beliefs are complete nonsense but i won't judge you for them as long as you don't use them to judge others
I'm actually a Christian, but I LOVE science, and I don't believe that God and the scientific record are in conflict. I always loved believed in both. I hate how creationists have such a hold over the Christian community. I was reading a book on the history of the Earth, and my Aunt got upset with me for reading it. It is sad, I can't often share my interest in science with me relatives or other Christians because of creationist brainwashing. I just want to put my voice out there that there are Christians who do believe in the scientific record, and don't see science as an enemy of God.
Newton himself was a proud deist. When he was a scientist, he made some incredible discovery. When he studied the bible (which he did a lot apparently), he was a renowned scholar. Everyone is more than the sum of their parts.
The greats that pushed science to where it is today, believed in God. That belief brought them to want to worship God through understanding his creation.
You’re the exact kind of “progressive creationist” Dave mentions in the first video of this series. Science and Theology are fundamentally incompatible. The fact that you think you can believe in both shows that you don’t have the most basic understanding of science or the natural world. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You either live in the natural world or a fantasy land in your head. Stop trying to show Christianity in a better light with your completely transparent “hey guys, some Christians like science too” nonsense. You’re fooling absolutely nobody.
I'd love to watch a debate where the biblical apologist constantly refers to tabloid headlines as evidence for their side. "No, they really did find Noah's Ark on a mountaintop in Turkey. No, there really was a demonic face in the volcanic cloud. No, Batboy really did reveal the Second Coming of Christ."
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta stuff happened thats irrelevant or independent to time. so say in one model of before the big bang stuff happened before time was a thing, not exactly coherent to the rules of our universe but it doesnt have to be.
Great series. It would be cool if you also made some material on how people grow to be religious or creationists in the first place. Perhaps if we explain how they evolved into being religious or creationist or ID-ist, then maybe some will have a chance to recognize that they simply evolved into being that way. From there, maybe they can recognize their ability to change. I am not sure. Continue what you do, Dave. You have been a great addition to youtube. I've said before that you deserve awards of some kind for your content. (The religious may say your award is hellfire, but you and I doubt that, don't we?)
I discovered Professor Dave right around the time he went at it with the Globe Busters and their FE BS. I've been a HUGE fan and an ardent follower ever since. I genuinely believe that what he does is not only a HUGE public service, but also that it is going to become increasingly important in the coming years. I thought the Internet and the permeation of Social Media would really impact society very positively. How could linking the minds of everyone in the world over smart devices and encouraging them to cooperate and interface with each other possibly go wrong?! But all it seems to have done is created a massive market for grifters of all denominations. In any case I suppose there's a silver lining in that if there weren't pseudo-science con-artists and gullible followers, we wouldn't get to enjoy watching the very intelligent people utterly destroy their grifts by shining a spotlight on their dishonesty and reducing their flawed logic to dust. I still feel though, like we're watching the beginning of the end of humanity 😅😅
You did a great job Dave. Keep that work up! 😁 I know so many people in my life who believe in all the creationist nonsense and I really want to show them this series you made. They most likely won't watch it because they don't even speak English, but maybe I can convince at least one of them to change their delusional and unscientific worldview by explaining these things in a way that you do.
You really didn't have to do this series, but thank for doing it anyway. I don't think there's a more hilariously self-unaware and condescending group of people than YECs. I might say flat earthers, but I can never be sure they aren't just trolling.
@@franciscodetonne4797 But I don't think the common person realizes that the Bible they read is translated, meanwhile anyone with a passing familiarity of the legend of Jesus knows Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the 4 Gospels that recite it.
The fact that you think that's a gotcha only shows your lack of understanding on the matter and exacerbates the issue because people will point to arguments like yours and strawman the rest of us
One of my Conservative-minded bosses says secularism is a religion and that it will lead us to communism. And yet I try and use your talking points to level him out but he's so committed
@1:22 To even say something "exists", means it has location in space-time or is space-time itself. Creation and causation necessarily requires space-time in order to happen in the first place and even be coherent. So if god is defined as both space-time independent and the creator of it, then it cannot logically exist.
@alexiscorral5594 I wouldn't call that an argument "for" atheism. Atheism doesn't require an argument because you can be unconvinced that a god exists for any reason. Good or bad reasons aside. GotG fallacies are used more to point out the logical failures and absurdity of specific theistic claims, but not general deistic ones. Though imo, I think most arguments for god, if not all, do commit a GotG fallacy.
Some poor sod who has been lied to can honestly think the creationism crap is serious. However every creationist who honestly does actual research will very soon get to a point where they have to choose between remaining honest or remaining creationists
I watched an entire 10 min video yesterday of a christian explaining how and why noah had dinosaurs on his boat. I thought the tittle of the video was a joke. It wasnt, he literally thinks we lived with dinosaurs, apparently saved two of them on a boat, then repopulated, then i guess they just died out anyway. All in a couple thousand years i guess, maybe a few hundred years, i dunno. Didnt dinosaurs breathe very different levels of oxygen millions of years ago?
the oxygen percentage in air was much higher, yes. this is why you often see very large insects, as i believe oxygen percentage is correlated with insect size. although i havent looked into it properly, so take it with a grain of salt
Since we have separation between church and state, why is "In God we trust" on our currency? Wouldn't that be a violation of the separation of church and state?
It started in the 1860s during the civil war and continued through the 1950s. During the 1950s we had both a red scare and the cold war. Is it a violation? I think so, but the SCOTUS has ruled that it is not.
I would heavily be in favor of removing that phrase from our currency, anthem, and anywhere else it comes into contact with the government (like license plates - it's an option to put on Georgia plates for example).
How to prove materialism: Observation, experimentation, humility How to prove existence of god(s): Debunked philosophers from 1,000’s of years ago (most not believing in your god), excuses, “just gotta have faith, bro”.
@@stewystewymc3929 I'm just making a reference to the phrase "Soundwave, superior. Autobots, Inferior." said by the Transformers character Soundwave, which is in this commenter's profile picture.
The Mind truly boggles how one could consider oneself an honest scientist, and also have signed a statement of faith saying not only they believe a specific thing but will NEVER, EVER, EVER change their mind about it no matter what evidence they are shown.
At a fundamental level, religious people are ideologues and you can't argue with or persuade ideologues. This is because ideologues have no use for reality where it doesn't support their beliefs and you can't argue with people who deny that reality is real.
@thepapschmearmd Religions are ideologies therefore all religious people are ideologues. That's just how it is. However, some people believe in a personal deity without following any specific religion pe se. They consitute a small minority.
@@thepapschmearmdNot really. Any scientist who believes in god automatically removes the rational filter of science from their entire religious mechanism. A textbook example of special pleading.
Thanks, Dave. Global Debunks without giving so much airtime to the crackpots. I can't bear to listen to their shtick anymore. I really don't ever need to hear the Usual Suspects lie/self-delude again.
This series has been great.
Agreed 👍 more views to show support
I agree
After watching the first entry I decided to check back when the series was complete. Now that it is, I binged it start to finish and was not disappointed. This is a colossal piece of work, Prof. Thank you for doing this!
Can't believe the algorithm took 9 minutes to show this to me
15 minutes for me
23!!! I'm pissed!
48, and I had to go actively looking.
52 for me.
Not the algorithm, god.
Back in my teens I was a Christian who was extremely interested in Christian apologetics. Now in that one video where you classify them, you spoke of a least unscientific kind- still unscientific, just less so than the dudes believing in Young Earth and all that nonsense. I was that kind of guy. Mostly because I come from a European Orthodox millieu that never had much of a problem with science in comparison to American protestants, in a post-socialist country where scientists are all but idolized. It was the philosophical arguments I believed were the only legitimate venue for genuine Christian apologetics. Now, when I am an atheist, I can't wait to watch you tear through that notion and see if I arrived at some of the points you mention during my deconversion. Btw, you played a massive role in that as well as educating me a great deal in the natural sciences that were largely left behind during my humanities focused education. I can't thank you enough for that.
What was it that led you to deconversion? I moved the other direction, from an atheist in very secular Scotland to broadly Reformed Christian. Never had a problem witrh science either, I actually converted between getting my BSc and MSc.
@@a.i.l1074 Have you watched the video? why would anyone with common sense not deconvert?
@@alanbaker6837 Yes, although I was a bit disappointed. This is clearly the weakest video in the series, Dave does not seriously engage with the objections to his objections and is decades behind the literature in philosophy of religion. Graham Oppy and Alex Malpass are my favourites for really tackling these theistic arguments and offering a strong alternative
@@a.i.l1074 Well, philosophy isn't really his thing. This video was probably just intended as a miscellaneous collection and wrap up on the broader context.
@@Nxck2440 Which is fine. The science videos were excellent, and I accept all the findings he reported. If Dave wants to say I'm still a creationist because I think there's a creator God prior to all the science, I won't quibble
Letss goo been waiting for this part since a week
Short wait. Christians have been waiting for gods return for millennia 😂
@SkiesKurosawa define very soon
I truly cannot express how grateful I am for the amazing work you and your team do. This series deserves so much praise.
@@MrPaws-dr8qe team? He has a team? I guess that explains how he keeps uploading these so fast.
Sometimes I watch these around my family, they call Dave “rude” and “condescending”. My favorite of these was when my dad called Dave “a sick man”, my family is great but they get extremely defensive when I mention talking points that even have the slightest hint of being “anti-Christian”(whatever the hell that means). Long story short I used to be a Christian, I would always listen to everything that I was told about the religion, I can not remember one thing I discovered by myself, everything was spoon fed to me. One day, a video from Dave’s channel washed up in my recommended, at this point in time I was already unsure that the Christian god was really there. Dave’s videos have not only educated me but have also informed me more than any religion ever will. Thanks Dave, keep making awesome videos!
(P.S- Dave, feel free to turn “you’re a sick man” into merch! I would buy it!!!!)
religion can help people emotionally but its damaging when people think its fine to abuse animals and plants without fearing the possibility of reincarnation being true. many religious people that i spoke to have no fear of reincarnation. wildlife exploitation is a serious modern day issue and the unnatural changes could be causing alot of suffering in other organisms. i fear reincarnation.
@@infiniteworfare5089 sorry, I didn’t get your point before. If it works it works- yes reincarnation can act as a deterrent but it’s not an effective one. LSS- reincarnation won’t work on everyone, it would be a better idea to educate people on the issues of animal cruelty and the effects of what it does to populations as well as how it relates to us. This would be a better deterrent because it stands on factual grounds that can be empirically demonstrated instead of an emotional appeal to some process that can’t be. If that makes any sense (it’s so late).
@@yellowbacon69 wildlife exploitation cannot be fixed easily. domesticating animals alone is morally wrong as we dont know their physiology and they are unable to undergo proper natural selection from limited conditions.
@@infiniteworfare5089 yeah, I made it seem like I was trying to hand wave the whole proble of domestication/abuse of animals away. That’s not what I was doing, to be clear I believe that through proper education we can gain insight into the problems of these issues and hopefully find ways to reduce them. We can’t stop it, but we can reduce it.
@@infiniteworfare5089 and to clarify- by morally wrong you are referring to how interference with their natural rights is wrong.
"My religion doesn't let me do that " . Ok Cool
" My religion doesn't let you do that " GTFO
The problem is that "my religion" is invariably translated to their children.
Which means that in most cases, that "GTFO" scenario happens in probably the most insidious way possible.
So, personally, I have a hard time ever coming away with "Ok, cool" as there's rarely a distinction between the two cases.
@@rainbowkrampus That's a very good point .
Secularism in a nutshell.
Also, don't forget "My religion makes me do this (harmful act)."
@SkiesKurosawa Have you forgotten to take your meds ?
What about my religion being an evolutionary result of the societal phenomenon, and it did not forbid anything unless it was harmful, but we forgot the reason for the prohibition, so I forbid you from doing it. It is like the societal laws that are set by humans
Honestly, thank you. As someone who went to YEC schools and was brainwashed (mainly my teachers regurgitating Kent Hovind talking points), I appreciate every single video that aims to bring people closer to the truth.
Why care if all that's going to happen is we die and that's it?
I'm actually afraid that atheist are right, but I don't understand why it matters.
Christine's actually do do good things to help people out, that doesn't make there beliefs true but really why does it matter to care what happens to the world after your gone when our brains shut off and that's the end of us. Nothing matters hell would even be better, and yes for real.
@@jeffreyanderson6740 are you okay? Also, dude, you completely missed the whole point of hell if you think it’s better than anything.
@@jeffreyanderson6740 Atheists also do good things to help people out, without the coercion or promise of reward/punishment incentives to do said things. However, Christians (and basically all Theists) also do terrible things specifically in the name of their faith. The faith allows and excuses these terrible acts. It allows murder and torture, and gives the faithful the false idea that they are superior based solely on that faith. "Christians do good things" is a really bad argument, one you should probably avoid if you want to be taken seriously in a video board like this one. When was the last time you saw something like "Today the agnostic rebels shelled the atheist stronghold, and several civilians were killed" on the news. Anyone can do good things and do. It takes a special kind of crazy to do bad things and dismiss it as acceptable due to an iron age fictional book.
Here to bask in your wisdom yet again Dave.
🙏😭 worded weird but same
I've said this before, but thank you for helping me deprogram and for having a better understanding of science. videos like this really help.
" A little science takes you away from God... a lot of science brings you closer to Him" - I'll let you see who said that.
@@forwardechoes I can't see how that would make sense. Could you explain why is that?
@SkiesKurosawa I can't accept such an answer, sorry. What you just said isn't related to my question. In my opinion, you should've restrained from commenting if you were just going to say that, man.
@@qv_ge If you tell what in specific?
@@forwardechoes I don't engage with comments normally but here's my take on the quote. I live in the Pacific Northwest. There's an area in my state called the "channeled scablands" which I have visited multiple times. The cliffs and canyons in the area were considered so unusual that it bugged scientists and geologists for quite a time. Due to science being done they found out they were carved out through a series of cataclysmic floods brought on by Glacial Lake Missoula during the ice age about 15,000 years ago. They found this out by examining rock formations, strata layers, and running simulations. That's a lot of science.
And I've had people preach to me that it was actually evidence of a global flood brought on by a vengeful and angry god without explanation or evidence. (A little, in fact hardly science) One visit to the Columbia River gorge and you start asking "How the hell did it take 40 days and 40 nights to form all this??"
(@ProfessorDaveExplains how did I do with that explanation?)
“Faith does not give you the answer. It just stops you asking the questions.” -Frater Ravus
“It’s called faith because it’s not knowledge.” --Christopher Hitchens
“Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.” --Tim Minchin
“Faith, if it is ever right about anything, is right by accident.” --Sam Harris
My mother watched all this and is still a creationist. This series may be over, but please don't end the fight against creationism.
Maybe let it sink in first? The video was published 2 hours before you made this comment 😂
Yea lets not expect someone to change their whole worldview so quickly. Dave even said in this video that people are resistant due to the psychological weight.
It takes years for most people to dump their religion. It is a difficult psychological process.
People are never convinced out of their religious beliefs, to them there is too much at state on an existential level. This is something they have to come to on their own.
The best you can do is sow seeds of doubt.
Why did she remain a creationist im genuinely curious.
The sad reality is that no matter how easily you break it down, no matter how compassionately you try to relate it, there will always be people who refute it.
No, people can't refute it, but they might _refuse_ it.
I was once a christian, because of family influence during my childhood. But ever since I encountered science during my childhood, my curiosity has been keep ablazing. Until I get to actually study based on my curiosity during my undergraduate years and actually do science (with undergrad research), is when I was able to get the holistic idea of science being an amazing tool of inquiry the human race had invented. With my growing knowledge on Biology, especially the amazing factual phenomenon of evolution, refuted all of my blind faith that was otherwise becoming a cognitive bias ever since my childhood. I am glad my curiosity didn't burned out and affected my rationality. Right now, I am doing a PhD in Molecular Biology and Biotechnology in hopes I get to contribute with this amazing pool of knowledge.
With the rise of conspiracies and misinformation, we need people like you to be the voice of science.
while i agree with the science, science is becoming rather dangerous with time. humans have forced animals and plants to suffer in domesticated conditions and have altered their physiology using genetic engineering while also taking away their reproductive rights. this goes completely against nature and its unknown how bad these organisms can suffer from unnatural changes. even humans are suffering with mental illness as a result.
our problems started from wildlife exploitation where we evolved weaknesses which caused us to experience pain and death in very abnormal ways.
Absolutely remarkable series, Dave. Keep up the great work and keep fighting the good fight, brother!
this is one of the all time greatest videos on youtube as a whole. this video is incredible and so important for people to see.
This series is incredible, I’ve loved checking RUclips after my morning class to see if you put the next part out yet. I will definitely refer back to these videos for when I eventually tell my family I haven’t been religious for two years. Thanks for everything you do Dave!
I love how creationists try to discredit evolution theory by pretending it is like a religion.
That's just a dirty tactic used to keep their congregations from investigating evolution.
Because it's a religion, looking into evolution and trying to understand it would be as sacrilege reading the Quran!
It's pathetic.
I find that the most annoying part!
@SkiesKurosawa No, you just couldn't pass a Grade 9 science quiz.
@SkiesKurosawa Case in point, you're uneducated and don't know anything.
So uneducated that you can't even engage with the content and try to debunk it, all you can say is "nuh uh!" and "ur a cult!".
There are kids in Grade 9 with more knowledge of science than you.
It's pathetic.
@SkiesKurosawa
Your god has never and will never love you. YHWH is the biggest demon of them all.
Apologist: "Science is lying to you!"
Also Apologist: Dresses up as a scientist
This is my FAVORITE of this series. Possibly my favorite Professor Dave video. Well done!
Something weird has happened among these people over the past 40 years. When I was a student in a VERY conservative (Calvinist) Christian college in the early 80s, my biology professor spoke openly about the facts of evolution, which was mind-blowing for many of us young, innocent Christian kids. This nonsensical “design” stuff was not part of our curriculum back then.
No idea which educational establishment you attended but back in the late 70's my parents removed me from the public school system (because our schools were ordered to desegregate by the US Supreme Court, this was not a southern state mind you) and enrolled in a private Christian Fundamentalist school of the Independent Baptist persuasion.
Our science curriculum taught the earth was 6,000 years old. That evolution was a satanic lie told by the "world" to trick us. That this world was created for us because we are "Gods" special creation. That we as people are meant to have dominion over everything on earth which is why "we" choose which animals our livestock will breed with and which animals we allow to thrive. Same with plant life. The list goes on and on.
This was the era of the Moral Majority and Ronald Reagan. I remember talk about how they needed to get their people in positions of power to enact change. We, students, were their tools to enact that vision.
EDIT: to add, it took me the better part of a decade to undo the damage inflicted during my years at two of these schools. I have not subscribed to this theology or any other religious theology in close to 30 years now.
They're a small sect of grifters. I'm surprised their schools aren't teaching the kids how to do the grift instead of indoctrinating them into their fairy tale, they'd probably be able to spread their cancer easier. But I guess they need some form of revenue.
Like the pictures of Iran from the 1960's ... women out and about in western clothes on their own, etc. ... compared to today.
It highly depends on where you grew up. You can look up maps showing where, at present, evolution/abiogenesis/big bang are taught or not taught which can be pretty alarming. Even these maps aren't 100% accurate because there can be places where it's technically supposed to be taught according to state curriculum but, due to local religious saturation, teachers can end up discouraged from teaching it, even to the point of losing their jobs or being run out of town if they don't toe the line. You can grow up in a religious area and learn all about evolution/abiogenesis/big bang while two cities over students learn about none of it even though you're supposed to be receiving the same education.
James tour is punching the air rn
MR. FARINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@squatch1565 GO GO GO
I visualise him frothing at the mouth, barking like a rabid dog, and spraying vitriol.
MR FARINA 👺👺👺
@@studyaccount017 ZERO!
I wish I could believe that someday we'd be without bad faith actors like FEs, Creationists, far-R-wing grifters, social reactionaries, corpos, delulu techbros etc. but knowing that they've always been there weighing down the rest of us, and will likely always be there spewing something about something, its just so disheartening.
Its like a perpetual debuff on the progress of humanity.
I fear that one of the few things sci-fi gets right is that no matter how advanced humanity will become, there will always be religious cults and grifters.
@@maythesciencebewithyou indeed, it will likely always be with us
@@maythesciencebewithyoualways will but they will slowly lose power by virtue of increasing material standards o living
Simple solution: don't be human anymore. Return to Monke.
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 They know that, so they have to push down on average living standards occasionally. They've been stamping pretty hard since 2008.
You could make some more points 6) History 7) Psychology/Perception
right 💪🏾
He could go on forever.
You can also come at this from the opposite angle, about how insisting that the Bible is a natural science textbook cheapens its spiritual message. It's a genre error to try to find the Big Bang and evolution in Genesis 1.
@@alexiscorral5594 I did this when I was a fundie Xtian. I used the "dust of the Earth" scripture as evidence the Bible was scientifically prescient. I showed how the human body is comprised of the same chemical elements most abundant in the Earth's crust. Only recently, 40 years later, did I realize it could be a simple metaphor. At the time of its writing, common vessels such as pottery and vases were created from clay. The author simply projected the creation of a clay pot to the creation of man. It makes more sense than a divinely inspired awareness of stellar nucleo-sythesis.
@@HessianHunter Yes it is an error to look for the big bang in Genesis 1, because it's not there.
But it is very much correct to look for a flat earth formed 6000 years ago by god, because that is in Genesis.
People that pick and choose the parts of scripture they like are hypocrites, and it's no less hypocritical when you rule that the parts falsified by science and history must have a deeper spiritual interpretation.
I had a friend who decided to troll some Creationists by basically using their playbook to claim that their god is false and existence was shaped by the Time Lords from Doctor Who.
Your friend is wrong. Time Lords? Doctor Who? Such buffoonery. They're all false, it was the Force that created it all
The "it's just a theory" argument is literally just them not realizing that words can have different definitions in different contexts.
theory:
1. a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena
2. a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation **this is the only definition they know**
I wish hypothesis and theory were more used like the scientific community uses them
@@davisdf3064Yeah as a linguistic student one thing I recognised that's very sad is that area of science and general public does not share the same vocabulary, this really creates a big idea translation gap between the two meaning that 1. New people stepping inside scientific area would have misunderstanding going in 2. Non scientific area people cannot have a accurate idea as of what the logic behind the new discovery means and often can only browse it as magic or use something they're more familiar in day to day life as a bad representation to it (ex. Using macro physics to describe quantum phenomenon)
Next they'll ask you what is a woman...
They'll used the second definition for what is intended by the first one.
What separates an acceptable theory from a bandwagon fallacy?
Videos like these are always a breath of fresh air to me. The way you break down complex concepts and systems and articulate them so flawlessly in such an organized manner is a treat.
Science is important
You can do both
you can do both meth and cocaine at the same time i absolutely agree
@@undine8750you can take your daily vitamin intakes and a sip of liquid mercury at the same time, but you know stop doing one of it would really help you extend your life
A person can live with both. I am a Christian and I am a scientist. A person doesn’t have to be an extremist
@@thecoolestcorgi4991 as you delve deep into science, your religion will start to fade away and seem untrue. its not possible to believe in evolution and religion at the same time. evolution says that we evolved from unintelligent organisms and it doesnt make sense to know origins of organisms before we developed our intelligence.
Prof. Dave blessing me with a upload just minutes after getting home, epic
lol word just got home from uni to this gem
@@mc-fl8thsame
It is a sign.
Cdesign proponentists is my favorite transitional fossil
Professor, I could watch your videos for hours, I have never ever seen anyone in the world with the same language fluency as you.💖
The first real shake to my Faith - not that I was all that Devout to begin with - was when I was chatting with my Youth Pastor and he told me that he "filters" all new information that he learns about, _through_ his Faith in God.
I was 14 or so and hadn't quite pieced together that he was basically taking pride in anti-intellectualism, but once I got into Philosophy during my undergrad brought it into focus.
I cannot thank you enough for talking about these things and helping people see the truth about religion. Even if you just change one person's mind, it'll all be worth it. Love the videos and I can't wait to see the next debunk video.
"How do you know, you weren't there!" How do you know your grandparents birthed your parents? You weren't there. How do you know Tolkien really wrote the lord of the rings? You weren't there.
We really don't "know" anything. It is all accepted upon faith on historians and the dissemination of knowledge. Did we land on the Moon? We have lots of evidence and testimony supporting the claim. We don't really know about our own life experiences. Memories can be corrupted and even unconsciously manufactured or dreamt.
I wish I could give this 100 thumbs up. We need many more Professor Daves.
This video is great! Definitely the most useful in the series because it's broad and anyone should be able to understand it, whereas the others deal with more esoteric science that requires people to be invested in. All the videos in this series are great though. Thank you!
This is the most comprehensive debunking of creationism and intelligent design I've ever seen. Thank you sir!
I can already feel the Inspiring Philosophy debate coming
Inspiring Philosophy must be a masochist, because every time he tries to defend his worldview against relevant experts he gets ground into the dust.
Inspiring Sophistry*
@@alexiscorral5594 The Discovery Institute embarrassing themselves over and over is just an average Tuesday.
Explained simply with no fancy vocabulary, while leaving no stones unturned!
The number of people who mean hypothesis when they say theory is wild.
It is a failure of our education system that that happens so often. Science curriculum needs revising from the ground up.
This really was the definitive guide. Thank you for this masterpiece of a short series!
I hope it takes hold because there really is a mass danger and we need to press ourselves as a species to leave religious extremism behind forever.
I salivate at the discovery of a new addition to this series. Thanks Dave!
Thank you for being such a prolific advocate for science and truth. And I agree with you, this is ultimately a battle for freedom at all levels.
I am religious and believe that God is real. That said, I am still a scientist. The complexity of existence is fiendishly mind bending. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang theory. I think the Lord created all the natural phenomenon. Should we somehow prove 100% how the universe began, I will have to rethink my beliefs. I hate how other religious people try and use faith to discredit our work as scientists.
Edit: I seem to have not been clear enough, and I would like to make it more clear, I am not a creationist, nor do I use religion to make hypotheses. Instead I have adapted my faith to fit with the science and facts we have. My faith fills the gaps of what we don’t know, but for me personally. I don’t want to try and convert anyone since that is just annoying. Faith and Science are not mutually exclusive, and I don’t try to make them be, but faith must be the secondary part of a belief system, rationalism and fact will always supersede where they conflict.
_"I __-think the Lord-__ have faith that the particular sky-fairy I believe in created all the natural phenomenon"_
*FIFY*
do you believe that evolution was an unguided natural process or that it was guided by your space wizard?
@@stewystewymc3929 There is no need to be rude about someone being religious, but to answer you question. Yes, I believe evolution is the result of natural processes. I believe in a God that created the laws of nature and science to operate as they do so we can learn and understand. To grow as living beings. He made them and let them get to work. Thanks for listening
@@AlbertaGeek I hope life treats you better that you treat those you believe to be intellectually inferior due to a belief. I did not, and do not, subscribe to creationism. I wish to study the origin of life once I finish my masters degree in medical microbiology. I simply chose to believe in a higher power. Hope this clears anything up!
@@thecoolestcorgi4991 well you seem like a fairly reasonable person. I don't have much of a problem with theists like you. I still think your beliefs are complete nonsense but i won't judge you for them as long as you don't use them to judge others
This was a fantastic series of videos, in my favorites from you. Good stuff, glad there are content creators like you out there
cdesign proponentsist had me rolling
right that was too funny
I'm a c++ proponentsist of the java witness.
yeah i'm a subscriber in the proponentsism of the cdesign phenomenon alright
Spellcheck is a product of the devil...😂
I have just finished this series. Thank you, Professor Dave!
I'm actually a Christian, but I LOVE science, and I don't believe that God and the scientific record are in conflict. I always loved believed in both. I hate how creationists have such a hold over the Christian community. I was reading a book on the history of the Earth, and my Aunt got upset with me for reading it. It is sad, I can't often share my interest in science with me relatives or other Christians because of creationist brainwashing.
I just want to put my voice out there that there are Christians who do believe in the scientific record, and don't see science as an enemy of God.
Newton himself was a proud deist. When he was a scientist, he made some incredible discovery.
When he studied the bible (which he did a lot apparently), he was a renowned scholar.
Everyone is more than the sum of their parts.
The greats that pushed science to where it is today, believed in God. That belief brought them to want to worship God through understanding his creation.
@@ElatiosMusicNot all were christian although you'd be correct if you remove "his" because even ancient Egyptians contributed towards science
You’re the exact kind of “progressive creationist” Dave mentions in the first video of this series. Science and Theology are fundamentally incompatible. The fact that you think you can believe in both shows that you don’t have the most basic understanding of science or the natural world.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You either live in the natural world or a fantasy land in your head. Stop trying to show Christianity in a better light with your completely transparent “hey guys, some Christians like science too” nonsense. You’re fooling absolutely nobody.
This is the most critical one in the series, making it the perfect one to end on. Mr. Farina! 100!
Theist: "You weren't there to see it!"
Ok, you weren't there to see Adam or the Great Flood
They'll tell you gawd saw it and had his testimony written down... No shit.
I'd love to watch a debate where the biblical apologist constantly refers to tabloid headlines as evidence for their side. "No, they really did find Noah's Ark on a mountaintop in Turkey. No, there really was a demonic face in the volcanic cloud. No, Batboy really did reveal the Second Coming of Christ."
@synthetic240 "No, I did not really get scammed, The person who told me was really sincere when I paid!!"
@@Jewonastick Were you there to see him seeing it? Or at least were you there to see him writting it?...
The joke writes itself.
@@Julian0101 I was being sarcastic.... I don't believe in any of that nonsense
I absolutely love this series.
Thank you so much Dave for this brilliant work.
All we need is time codes for every subject 🙏🙏🙏
Great series , really enjoyed it .I will take what I've learned and use it in discussions with creationists. ❤️
Incredible resource Dave!
Looking forward to my next creationist debate with my newfound extra knowledge.
You are amazing at what you do.
Existing outside of time doesn't actually get rid of the cause issue either, it could require a nontemporal cause, which is a valid concept.
What's the concept of a nontemporal cause?
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta stuff happened thats irrelevant or independent to time. so say in one model of before the big bang stuff happened before time was a thing, not exactly coherent to the rules of our universe but it doesnt have to be.
Great series. It would be cool if you also made some material on how people grow to be religious or creationists in the first place. Perhaps if we explain how they evolved into being religious or creationist or ID-ist, then maybe some will have a chance to recognize that they simply evolved into being that way. From there, maybe they can recognize their ability to change. I am not sure. Continue what you do, Dave. You have been a great addition to youtube. I've said before that you deserve awards of some kind for your content. (The religious may say your award is hellfire, but you and I doubt that, don't we?)
I discovered Professor Dave right around the time he went at it with the Globe Busters and their FE BS. I've been a HUGE fan and an ardent follower ever since. I genuinely believe that what he does is not only a HUGE public service, but also that it is going to become increasingly important in the coming years.
I thought the Internet and the permeation of Social Media would really impact society very positively. How could linking the minds of everyone in the world over smart devices and encouraging them to cooperate and interface with each other possibly go wrong?! But all it seems to have done is created a massive market for grifters of all denominations.
In any case I suppose there's a silver lining in that if there weren't pseudo-science con-artists and gullible followers, we wouldn't get to enjoy watching the very intelligent people utterly destroy their grifts by shining a spotlight on their dishonesty and reducing their flawed logic to dust. I still feel though, like we're watching the beginning of the end of humanity 😅😅
Thanks Dave. Another great series.
Loving this series. Thanks!
Best series on youtube
by far the best part of this series
You did a great job Dave. Keep that work up! 😁
I know so many people in my life who believe in all the creationist nonsense and I really want to show them this series you made. They most likely won't watch it because they don't even speak English, but maybe I can convince at least one of them to change their delusional and unscientific worldview by explaining these things in a way that you do.
You really didn't have to do this series, but thank for doing it anyway. I don't think there's a more hilariously self-unaware and condescending group of people than YECs. I might say flat earthers, but I can never be sure they aren't just trolling.
Outstanding series of videos, thanks.
I appreciate your work on this series. Thank you so much.
👏 👏👏👏👏 absolutely brilliant series.
This is my favorite one in the series. But they are all excellent.
Tremendous video. Thank you so much for doing this
Loved this series man!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - every creationist argument boils down to:
*[argument from incredulity]* therefore *[god of the gaps]*
yeah, but I would say that it all ultimately comes down to Pascal's Wager.
@@thecommakozzi8050 pascal's wager isn't even about the existence of god, whereas arguments of the above format are
Special pleading...
The last couple minutes of this video was truly inspiring + showstopping. Thanks for the content Dave
The simplest argument for disproving "the Bible is literally true" is the Gospel. Why are there 4 different persons' version of events?
And why does the bible have to be translated at all if "the words of God" are universal?
@@franciscodetonne4797 This.
@@franciscodetonne4797 But I don't think the common person realizes that the Bible they read is translated, meanwhile anyone with a passing familiarity of the legend of Jesus knows Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the 4 Gospels that recite it.
That’s the same thing as 4 friends in your friend group telling the same story. They’re gonna be the same, but different at the same time
The fact that you think that's a gotcha only shows your lack of understanding on the matter and exacerbates the issue because people will point to arguments like yours and strawman the rest of us
thank you for all you do, genuinely
One of my Conservative-minded bosses says secularism is a religion and that it will lead us to communism. And yet I try and use your talking points to level him out but he's so committed
yeah, people like your boss will never change their views for any reason. they don't use logic AT ALL.
As a communist, I concur with your boss that communism follows from rationality.
Not familiar with Stalin, Lenin and Mao?
So very complete and easy to understand. Thank you professor dave.
@1:22 To even say something "exists", means it has location in space-time or is space-time itself. Creation and causation necessarily requires space-time in order to happen in the first place and even be coherent. So if god is defined as both space-time independent and the creator of it, then it cannot logically exist.
@@darkyodd That has zero to do with what I said.
@@_Omega_Weapon oh I didn’t mean to reply ☺️
@alexiscorral5594 I wouldn't call that an argument "for" atheism. Atheism doesn't require an argument because you can be unconvinced that a god exists for any reason. Good or bad reasons aside. GotG fallacies are used more to point out the logical failures and absurdity of specific theistic claims, but not general deistic ones. Though imo, I think most arguments for god, if not all, do commit a GotG fallacy.
So you mean to say causation needs time, and if God existed outside of time, He wouldn't be able to cause anything?
I guess that means spacetime doesn’t exist.
Great series!
they told me theories are not facts and aren't proven, so I went to music class and told them music theory is not a fact and has never been proven
I've been waiting for this, thankyou Dave
I NEEDED THIS
This series is SO GOOD 🙏
RUclips's algorithm ftw, correctly predicting that I'll want to watch this asap.
Amazing video. Truly a gem
There is nothing intelligent about "Intelligent Design".
There's nothing intelligent about your comment.
lol
Intelligent Design is "God did it" under a different name.
There is nothing intelligent in the designer the ID want to propose.
@@Julian0101 ID was disproved as science is 2005. It's creationism under a different name.
Excellent work! Well done! And thank you!
Can't believe the algorithm took 10 Hours to show this to me
Do you have your notifications turned on?
Mr. Albert Go Rhythm knows I like to watch these in the morning during coffee, so it waits until then to recommend it.
I love the guide series. This helps so much
Some poor sod who has been lied to can honestly think the creationism crap is serious. However every creationist who honestly does actual research will very soon get to a point where they have to choose between remaining honest or remaining creationists
Aron, is that you?
sadly their "research" just consists of reading creationist propaganda pieces that tell them what they want to hear.
Amazing work Dave this series has been great 👍🏼
Keep up the good work
I watched an entire 10 min video yesterday of a christian explaining how and why noah had dinosaurs on his boat. I thought the tittle of the video was a joke. It wasnt, he literally thinks we lived with dinosaurs, apparently saved two of them on a boat, then repopulated, then i guess they just died out anyway. All in a couple thousand years i guess, maybe a few hundred years, i dunno. Didnt dinosaurs breathe very different levels of oxygen millions of years ago?
the oxygen percentage in air was much higher, yes. this is why you often see very large insects, as i believe oxygen percentage is correlated with insect size. although i havent looked into it properly, so take it with a grain of salt
Thank you Dave! awesome series!
Since we have separation between church and state, why is "In God we trust" on our currency? Wouldn't that be a violation of the separation of church and state?
It was done during the start of the Cold War in response to USSR's perception of being a Godless society.
It started in the 1860s during the civil war and continued through the 1950s. During the 1950s we had both a red scare and the cold war.
Is it a violation? I think so, but the SCOTUS has ruled that it is not.
@bc2112320 Thank you for the explanation. I really appreciate it.
I would heavily be in favor of removing that phrase from our currency, anthem, and anywhere else it comes into contact with the government (like license plates - it's an option to put on Georgia plates for example).
@@yoshi6421 I agree.
Thank you so much, this is like an encyclopedia of "how to dismantle this specific category of dishonest arguments used by creationists"
How to prove materialism:
Observation, experimentation, humility
How to prove existence of god(s):
Debunked philosophers from 1,000’s of years ago (most not believing in your god), excuses, “just gotta have faith, bro”.
"Science, superior. Creationism, inferior."
@@davisdf3064 Correction: creationism.
Not people, ideas.
@@kgsws
Alrighty then
@@davisdf3064 yes that is very correct. You got anything else to add?
@@stewystewymc3929
I'm just making a reference to the phrase "Soundwave, superior. Autobots, Inferior." said by the Transformers character Soundwave, which is in this commenter's profile picture.
Good job Dave!
Another reason....money
A big one.
Receive billions of dollars and pay no taxes. Yep, that's a pretty good scam.
The Mind truly boggles how one could consider oneself an honest scientist, and also have signed a statement of faith saying not only they believe a specific thing but will NEVER, EVER, EVER change their mind about it no matter what evidence they are shown.
At a fundamental level, religious people are ideologues and you can't argue with or persuade ideologues. This is because ideologues have no use for reality where it doesn't support their beliefs and you can't argue with people who deny that reality is real.
@thepapschmearmd Religions are ideologies therefore all religious people are ideologues. That's just how it is. However, some people believe in a personal deity without following any specific religion pe se. They consitute a small minority.
@@thepapschmearmdNot really. Any scientist who believes in god automatically removes the rational filter of science from their entire religious mechanism. A textbook example of special pleading.
Thank you so much for this series!
Thanks, Dave. Global Debunks without giving so much airtime to the crackpots. I can't bear to listen to their shtick anymore. I really don't ever need to hear the Usual Suspects lie/self-delude again.
do you believe in rogaine, must be hard to find a date.