Alistair Begg: Is the Exclusivity of Christ Unjust?
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- One atheistic website raises the question: "Did the six million Jews who died in the Holocaust go to hell?" The obvious implication of such a challenge is that it is unjust to say that those who die as a result of gross injustice and aren’t Christian will not be saved. In this lecture, Dr. Alistair Begg explains what the Bible teaches about the exclusivity of Christ and answers the emotionally provocative challenges raised by inclusivists and pluralists.
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Absolutely beautiful.
I love your understanding of scripture and your devotion to preach exactly what it says. And I love your wit and humour ( notice the u, lol). Thank you pastor Alistair. Your podcast are now a daily staple in my understanding of our great King hallelujah 🙌🛐✝️🔥🤟💪🏼🔥🔥🔥
Love this man. Here, in my own life in 2022 I try to keep in mind a few things.
1. Non-coercion is deeply Christian - as Bob Marley put it, "Every man has a right to decide his own destiny.". Or as another artist (this time a Christian), Lenny Kravitz put it, "It's your life.". Everyone gets to decide for themselves about this truth and about how they will live their life but no one will be unaccountable for their decision or their life. The exclusivity of truth was defended by Jesus Christ but simultaneously the decision of others was never a source of anxiety (or a cause for coercion) on the part of Jesus. Let him who has ears hear. He was resolute but untroubled. Yet even when he was troubled, mourning the cities that killed the prophets he never felt responsible to convince the unconvincable. In John 6, I think, after the crowds begin to leave him there is some risk that his disciples will abandon him also but the only play he makes to keep them is to simply ask, Will you then leave me too? It's shocking. God appeals perhaps to our free will but he doesn't violate it.
2. Only The Frailest forms of Love and Respect Require 'Sameness' - one reason for this 'sameness of religions' claim is to preserve respect or even love across our differences by rendering these potential sources of conflict as non-differences. We are, we are meant to believe, essentially (that mischievous word) the same. Can I love and respect my Muslim friend without erasing the substantive differences in belief between us? I can, but it will require a stronger love and a more robust respect than can be manufactured by needing to imagine that I am essentially looking in the mirror.
A shortcut is to see him as a person and not (just) 'A Muslim'. Lou Reed has a song where he says something like, "I'd miss you if you disappeared into the divine.". God sees us as persons and we are all his sheep, his children and his flock with respect to creation - God is Adam's Father, the Father of creation. It sounds like pernicious doctrine but I love the universal paternity of God and find it unproblematic so long as I distinguish it from God, Father of Israel and God, Father of the twice-born. There's something about all of us belonging to God (by right) - like the widows lost coin - if not yet found - that is compelling to me. The coin he already owns (though lost to Him) , the sheep that is already of his flock (which He pursues) , and the son who is already his own son (who shall become His son in full).
I would miss Allister if he disappeared into the divine and I thank God that there is no doctrine so compelling that it was meant to erase or supplant human personality. I love this man. It's his incredulous story about Mrs. Jenkins and his not giving a flying rat's tail where he really picks up, (personality-wise) steam. Yet is this also, through personality, the place where the Spirit really begins to intrude? Judgment begins with the house of God and we are obligated to upset, not just ideas beyond our borders but to overturn the money changer's tables inside the very house of God...
OH my goodness! "I've got to go plug my tail up a tree." I'm laughing so hard. You're seriously the best.
I love your insight. Gonna be thinking about this for a while, especially the shallowness of loving by virtue of sameness
@fearitself Absolutely Agree ❤
Loved this!
thank you
The authority given to the Lord Jesus christ to fulfill and appease God's will
Well said teacher
Call no man father nor call no man teacher.
The echo is horrendous
Not to the Gentiles, but to the Greeks, for not all Gentiles cared for or knew anything of philosophy at the time! The Greeks were after wisdom and considered the gospel foolishness, not the gentiles at large!
The supposed savior of souls of Christians, was just the most recent savior-myth story. Example as follows, from the book, and please note how Chrishna was spelled, before the Christians came up with the word Christ, and how the Hindus then changed the spelling of their supposed savior to "Krishna."
The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.
and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.
1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut, “the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.
These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
Repent, you are believing doctrines of demons. Jesus is Lord from the foundation of the World and there is NO OTHER.
@@MariaSantana-ul5wd The supposed savior of souls of Christians, was just the most recent savior-myth story. Example as follows, from the book, and please note how Chrishna was spelled, before the Christians came up with the word Christ, and how the Hindus then changed the spelling of their supposed savior to "Krishna."
The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.
and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.
1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut, “the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.
These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
@@MariaSantana-ul5wd What sort of a man, other than a wanna-be leader of a cult, would preach that he came to earth as a savior of all humanity? That would be an egotistical buffoon.
And, if as the Christians claimed, and claim, Jesus was born perfect as a baby Jew to a family of Jews that were faithful only to Judaism, why would Jesus have felt a need to stray from the doctrines of Judaism.
If you do your homework, you will spot the lies that stare you right in your face.
Seek evidence if these false jesus you mentioned are existent in history. Then try to study the historical Jesus of Nazareth. Either Jesus Christ is a lie or you must confess that He is Lord!
@@GerardAndRoseVlogs I believe that all savior stories are myths ... not worthy of the investment of "faith."
Any man that preaches that he was sent to earth by a god to save all humanity from sin, ought not to be idolized ... ... not worshiped ... not believed. ... but rather empathized with, as being needy of attention, and very childlike concerning his behavior.
If only he could prove it! As it is...
If only our Creator will prove His existence! So what is truth? That would entirely depend on what your definition of truth is! What is truth? The truth is/are the facts correctly interpreted. As there are indeed facts, then there must also be truth. The key is to interpret those facts correctly!
The problem that I have as a believer is that even though I do truly believe that there is a God, and I do truly believe in the true existence of our Heavenly Father even Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah), I cannot prove it. Even though both the prophet Moses Levi (1593 B.C. - 1473 B.C.) and the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) believe that you can prove the existence of the invisible God through His visible creations, many people believe that you cannot prove the existence of the Supernatural through the existence of the natural:
Genesis 1: 1 - 31 (1)
Exodus 33: 1 - 23 (12 - 23)
Exodus 34: 1 - 35 (1 - 28)
Romans 1: 1 - 32 (18 - 32, 18 - 21)
1 Timothy 6: 1 - 21 (11 - 21, 11 - 16, 13 - 16)
Hebrews 11: 1 - 40 (1 - 3)
JST Genesis 1: 1 - 33 (3)
JST Exodus 33: 1 - 23 (12 - 23)
JST Exodus 34: 1 - 35 (1 - 28)
LDS PoGP Moses 2: 1 - 31 (1)
JST Romans 1: 1 - 32 (18 - 32, 20 - 21)
JST 1 Timothy 6: 1 - 21 (11 - 21, 11 - 16, 13 - 16)
JST Hebrews 11: 1 - 40 (1 - 3)
If only our God would give us a great sign to prove His existence as he did for the prophet Elijah (950 B.C. - 840 B.C.):
1 Kings 18: 1 - 46 (16 - 46, 16 - 40)
JST 1 Kings 18: 1 - 46 (16 - 46, 16 - 40)
Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) was once asked "What is truth?"
John 18: 1 - 40 (28 - 40, 37 - 39)
JST John 18: 1 - 40 (28 - 40, 37 - 39)
The truth is the facts correctly interpreted, and you cannot have any truth without any facts. Non-believers do not mock us for believing in the ultimate existence of God, but we are mocked for being ultimately unable to prove His existence! I would agree with this point, as my father (Michael Thomas MacGregor Sears (1945 - 2003)) had also argued that only some Supernatural entity (like a God) (from another dimension existing outside of time and space and beyond our fourth (4th dimension of width, breadth (height), length, and time) could create something out of nothing. I agreed with him, which is how I came to believe in the existence of our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah)!
For only the Supernatural (the invisible) could create the natural (the visible) as both the prophet Moses Levi (1593 B.C. - 1473 B.C.) had argued (Genesis 1: 1 - 31 (1), Exodus 33: 12 - 23, Exodus 34: 1 - 35 (1 - 28), JST Genesis 1: 1 - 33 (3), LDS PoGP Moses 2: 1 - 31 (1)), and the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) had argued (Romans 1: 18 - 32 (20), Hebrews 11: 1 - 40 (1 - 3)). What some say is possibly so! Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) felt that the weight of the universe was constant (and unchanging) (E = mc2) and that energy can become matter which can become energy. Maybe this is "the Force" that the Star Wars folks are talking about!
Genesis 1: 1 - 31 (1)
Exodus 33: 1 - 23 (12 - 23)
Exodus 34: 1 - 35 (1 - 28)
Romans 1: 1 - 32 (18 - 32, 20 - 21)
Hebrews 11: 1 - 40 (1 - 3)
JST Genesis 1: 1 - 33 (3)
JST Exodus 33: 1 - 23 (12 - 23)
JST Exodus 34: 1 - 35 (1 - 28)
JST Romans 1: 1 - 32 (18 - 32, 20 - 21)
JST Hebrews 11: 1 - 40 (1 - 3)
LDS PoGP Moses 2: 1 - 31 (1)
AND YET, I cannot prove this for according to the first fundamental law of physics, one cannot create something out of nothing, NOR can one turn something into nothing! The first law of thermodynamics tells us that the total energy in the universe, or in any isolated part of it, remains constant. In other words, energy (or its mass equivalent) is not now being created or destroyed; it simply changes form. Countless experiments have verified this.
A corollary of the first law is that natural processes cannot create energy. Therefore, energy must have been created in the past by some agency or power outside and independent of the natural universe. Furthermore, if natural processes cannot produce mass and energy (the inorganic portion of the universe) then it is even less likely that natural processes can produce the much more complex organic (or living) portion of the universe.
The first law of thermodynamics is a version of the law of conservation of energy, adapted for thermodynamic systems. The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system is constant; energy can be transformed from one form to another, but can be neither created nor destroyed.
LDS PoGP Abraham 4: 1 - 31 (1)
LDS PoGP Abraham 5: 1 - 21
An atheist Christopher Eric Hitchens (1949 - 2011) said it best when he said that if one is going to base their eternal lives on an invisible Supernatural entity, then that invisible Supernatural entity ought to do a lot more to prove His natural visible existence! The problem is this: How can we know the mysteries of God, if God simply chooses NOT TO EVEN BOTHER to prove His own true existence?
Anything unreal does NOT exist! In order for something to be real, then that something MUST have a physicality to it (a physical being be it energy (spirit) or matter (material) or both)! If our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) is indeed real, then He must have a physicality to him (a physical quality, a physical dimension, physical characteristics in either energy (spirit) or matter (material) or both)!
Anything unreal does not exist! Can't He be both body and spirit (matter and energy)? Cannot our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) be both matter and spirit?
John 4: 1 - 54 (1 - 26, 21 - 24, 24)
JST John 4: 1 - 56 (1 - 28, 23 - 26, 26)
LDS D&C 129: 1 - 9 (1 - 3) LDS D&C 130: 1 - 23 (22 - 23) LDS D&C 131: 1 - 8 (7 - 8)
JST John 4: 26 - For unto such hath God promised his Spirit. And they who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.
Christopher Eric Hitchens (1949 - 2011) once asked the great question with regards to the afterlife: "Can there be spiritual-psychological consciousness without a material brain?"
We now know that emotions are caused by electrochemical processes in the brain, and experiments have demonstrated that certain chemicals can induce fear, depression, euphoria, a sense of well being, sadness...etcetera.
This is both fascinating and terrifying at the same time, for is this all we really are? Are we missing something here or are we simply discovering what makes us, us?
The scary part for me is this: If there is no spiritual-psychological consciousness without a material brain, then there is no actual spirituality within us that goes on after death. The idea is that a spirit (or a soul) combines with a body to create a soul (or a living being). I really don't know. When folks claim to see ghosts, are these ghosts the actual spirits of people whose bodies have already died? Many Christians claim that spirits (or ghosts) actually exist amongst us, but is that really true? Are ghost stories real or are they just figments of our imagination?
Just have faith in Christ and what he did on the cross for all of us, there is such thing as divine mysterys some things we won't no until we are in heaven don't over think everything, in the words of our lord,, be still and know I am god,, bless you in Christ Jesus name
We walk not by sight but by faith (2 Cor. 5:7). We must repent and seek Him with a sincere heart. He will blind sinful mankind that believes that God needs to bow down to come to him. (Luke 11:29)
My friend, may I suggest that if you are struggling with finding empirical proof of God's existence that you begin to study the Bible in relation to a topic we might call, "Spiritual perception". Find phrases about opened eyes and blind eyes. Find phrases like, "...for they will see God.". Find other (spiritual) senses in verses like, 'Taste' and see that the Lord is good. One person who replied mentioned the wonderful verse, We walk by faith not by sight, but in Hebrews 11 Abraham is said to have persisted in his faith as one who 'sees' Him who is unseen. He sees by faith but not with the physical eyes embedded in his physical skull.
Maybe you can help yourself by taking an interest (through simple childlike faith and sincere prayer) in how the Bible teaches that God Himself may be "apprehended". This is a different empericism that relies on the senses a dead man does not have and could never acknowledge as legitimate but we who have been raised from the dead sing together, [I] 'was blind but now I see' . Faith is the seeing that doesn't rely on physical sight. As Tozer put it, this is not the distinction between the real and the imaginary but between the physical and the spiritual. Sometimes we see as in a mirror darkly but we truly apprehend!
Do not make a dead man your eye doctor: he has no eyes to certify your spiritual sight and the insults that fall in you fill up what was lacking in Christ's suffering.
Will Alistair Begg repent and recant his statements? I think he needs prayers and a Christian brother close to him to hold him accountable. That's the problem with his position he's at a higher standard, he has been faithful for a long time..... But we are all human until the lord calls us hom. Prayers for him and his church family.
what?
Could you please provide further context, where is he going wrong ?
@@RonaldLil which point? The first one or the he sermon after that he gave twisting scriptures? The first was bad, the second was way worse and he's unrepentant.
@wgterry Pray for yourself.
@@vincentho3964 wow