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Ruby and Sapphire's Big Secret? 10 Obscure Pokémon Secrets and Easter Eggs - Gen Three
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire are some of the most beloved Pokemon games ever. They began a new era for the franchise, and brought about a lot of new features and innovations. However, the games also have a lot of obscure secrets and Easter eggs in them that have come about over time, and in this video I will be highlighting some of these unusual and interesting things that have come out of the third generation of Pokemon!
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Gen 3 had ALL the Pokémon coded in. It is NOT the same situation as gen 8.
True. That is true.
bur bear in mind he said very similar, not the same.
But also considee that in gen 3 there were a lot less pokemon than now
@@Mqstodon Dude, Generation 3 were based in freaking Game boy advanced consoles
@@Harold_Wilson That's not even remotely similar since the only cut content Gen 3 had was the e-reader room upon being localized instead of the bast majority of the pokedex because "reasons". That without mentioning the fact that you are paying the price of a full game (without counting the DLC's) for an unfinished product (sw/sh) when there are games (in the Switch) that not only cost way less but also have 2 full games for that price.
"Unless you're a Zubat fan, of course."
I AM THE DARKNESS. I AM THE NIGHT. I AM ZUBATMAN.
Only if the trainer ran from his parents...
I once saw zubatman while letting the winds of time and change take me where the winds of time and change blow
Lol
Dududududududu
Well im a zubat fan xD
"No one complained about it back in gen 3..."
Bro, were you even alive in 2003? It was a wildly unpopular decision when the games were released. Further, to compare Dexit to RSE is ridiculous as, unlike gen 8, the games had all of the Pokemon coded into them and, even the Pokemon you could not catch in the base game, had completely overhauled artwork and animations.
Exactly
You prolly get so much ass
I was furious when I had to leave my red team behind!
To this day Gen 3 and Gen 8 are the only gens of Pokemon I didn't buy at least one game of, both times because of the Pokedex issues.
I must have been in the minority then, because as a young teen I didn't really care about it all that much, I was just excited about all the new Pokemon I would get to catch and use, just like I've felt every gen. Hell, my first Sword playthrough I didn't use a single non-Galar Pokemon, I didn't even use the Galar forms. As far as I've seen, the only ones really complaining about the lack of national dex were the competitive players, because they couldn't bring their fully trained teams over. But I think it was for the best, because it got some fresh Pokemon into the meta and made people change things up.
With gen 3, they physically couldn’t trade back. I remember being upset back then as a child too but I got over it. And every single pokemon were still coded in to boot. Very different than a deliberate choice to leave em out like SwSh did
Yes I believe this was the main reason why firered,leafgreen,heartgold, and soulsilver exist, not just to cash in on that sweet kanto and johto love, unlike the new ones. Unless Im mistaken
People who bring up the argument of "but but BUT gen fwee didn't have all da monstas eider" are just kissing ass and don't realize that the monsters were still in the files of the gen 3, games. I'm currently playing my copy of ruby with a team of normally unobtainable pokemon in the playthrough including Houndoom and Donphan, MEANING THEIR FILES ARE IN THE GAME UNLIKE SWSH, you ignorant apologetic fucks
lot of people seem to forget that. there has never been a time where they decided not to focus on the full dex without backlash. it happened with 3 and 5 before 8, and theyre not even the same situation because the mons were still available in the data. obviously the average player is not going to hack unobtainable pokemon in the game but there is still a difference between focus on a new dex with a remake or additional game with the rest of the roster vs an official shaving of the pokedex with no option to use the unobtainable mons unless youre paying for home + holding out that maybe the mons you like will be available the next gen in 3 years.
sword and shield also dont have the same problems gen 3 and 5 had.
Funny how you’re play emerald
@@kaidenseaby287'you are play Emerald'?😂😂😂
"...meaning they did not have all the Pokemon, just as is the case with Sword and Shield."
Except all 386 Pokemon are actually programmed into Ruby and Sapphire and the games can be switched to National Dex mode by trading with (at least) Fire Red and Leaf Green. Even Unown ? and ! were programmed in, so only the 3 other forms of Deoxys weren't in the games.
They also didn’t make excuses for creating a sub-par experience overall. “wE waNTeD tO MakE mORe ExpResSiVe PokÉMoN”
The let’s go game didn’t have all of the Pokémon and all attacks in it and yet nobody complained
Shock Burst It was obviously not a main game. They made that pretty clear from the beginning.
You still couldn't trade your old Pokemon over, which is the main reason people were upset about the dex cut, something they've been considering since gen 5 btw.
As for Let's Go, those were officially announced as main series games regardless of how "obviously spinoffs" they were. You could perhaps consider them to Pokemon what 2D Mario is to the Mario series, as they're both the more casual friendly entries.
@@ZombieBarioth Yeah not being able to transfer the Pokemon was a problem, but SwSh kind of have the opposite problem where we have the means to transfer Pokemon (Home) but they're not programmed into the game.
And I do remember not liking how you couldn't transfer Pokemon back then, but I do see now that it was for the best to get rid of everything about a Pokemon being determined by its DV's. I don't see anything good coming out of Dexit other than a possibly more balanced metagame, which they seem to be screwing up by including every legendary in the DLC.
I remember being soooooo confused as a kid with altering cave, its so disappointing that they never did anything with it like they planned
You lie!
What is there to be confused about? Nothing!
The Pokémon were still coded in, very different. But that’s all I’m gonna say about that.
It was a source of irritation, we were just too young to do anything
jared ok I’ll say more, honestly I’m over the whole Sword and Shield controversy. It seems like the only people that bring it up anymore are salty youtubers like hoopsandhiphop.
They always point the finger at people like me saying that we are toxic or hypocritical for “not getting what we want”. The mental gymnastics amaze me. I’m sorry but all I want is a good game, sometimes beloved game companies, like Game Freak make bad games.
I’m gonna skip this game, I’d appreciate it if people like hoopsandhiphop would quit shaming people like me, and trying to further divide the Pokémon fan base.
Aaron Shaw no one else brings it up because nobody is playing sword and shield anymore.
11:00 I don't think what happened on Gen 3 can be compared with the dexit fiasco of sw/sh for two main reasons.
1) The data was still there on the Gen 3 games (you have to buy a DLC on gen 8 because the data is not even on the base games) so they never cut anything at all (if anything the only "cut content" was the e-reader room but I don't remember if people actually complained about that back then).
2) It was due to technical limitations in the sense that the way the "genetics" were coded changed drastically. Besides, their excuse to cut over 60% on the dex on gen 8 was because "they would work on the models and animations" for the new 'mons that were to be included in the game (which mind you, was less than those available in Gen 1) but it was later discovered that not only they used the same exact models but also reclycled animation rigs for both pokemon and NPC's while leaving some of the most mediocre attack animations there (not counting the poor attack animations during dmax). Double kick anyone?
And that's why "nobody complained on Gen 3". If you want to argue that forcing players to buy the full set of games is similar to the current DLC situation then you must remember that since the data was already there in the base games you could just get an AR or any pokemon generating tool and that would solve your problem in an instant.
PS: Forgot about the obvious hardware limitations that also contributed to the factor of Gen 2~3 compatibility but if anything that's even worse for gen 8 since they don't even have those issues as an excuse to cut content from the games.
Bit of a stretch for the last "secret" involving France and gen 6 and braille. That was some insane mental gymnastics you did for that one.
He pulled that one out of his ass
Honestly pulled the whole video out his ass. My opinion tho just whenever I watch his stuff never really learn anything new.
I think you’re forgetting the backlash gen 3 had back then. The inability to transfer was a deal breaker for A LOT of fans. many dropped out of Pokémon as a result. Might be the origin of the “genwunners.”
No, the origin of genwunners came from the time of gen 2. A good majority of the kids who were 10 when gen 1 released (the game's target audience) fell out of Pokemon because it was no longer 'cool', around the release of gen 2. And a lot of kids would pick on the people who remained fans of Pokemon, myself included, calling us babies for still liking baby stuff. It's those people that ended up becoming genwunners, once they saw how popular it was becoming again, but taken aback by how much it had changed over the years, only having played the originals. Getting overwhelmed by the number of Pokemon they had gotten up to, when they were just used to the 151, and wanting to go back to the glory days of nostalgia, when they were younger and things were simpler.
@@AzureKyle growing up i never saw any hate for Gen2. the Pokemon League at my local Toys R Us was still packed, even increasing with the releases of S/G/C (Stadium 2 was pretty big where everyone came to play against each other). i only started noticing a decline when Gen 3 came out. not sure when it officially closed though since i stopped going during Gen 3 (i got into Digimon instead).
@@Rika24 I never said there was hate for gen 2, it's just a lot of people I knew and went to school with that stopped liking the games at that point, because it was no longer 'cool' to the majority.
There was quite a bit of backlash for the non transferable from gen 1 & 2 to gen 3. Most of the people who I talked to back then thought it was kind of a cash grab by Game Freak and Nintendo when the hype of the series fell off. Still, gen 3 is my favorite and always will be.
You're right. The inability to transfer back to Gold, Silver, and Crystal _is_ kinda rubbish.
......... It frustrated the hell out of young me when the change from gbc to gba happened and there was no way to connect between the two systems. I understood that it was because of the lack of physical hardware that could communicate between the two though. I forgave and got over it with time, but that is still a frustation that no one whose first pokemon game was from a later generation than the change will understand. For every game since, except for some of Sword and Shield, Game Freak has made a widely available method of taking your previous pokemon with you to the new game. With the tech I possess, I will never be able to play with the specific pokemon I caught and raised on gbc as a child in any other game. And thanks to the batteries that died in Gold, Silver, and Crystal, I have lost the three Mews I stood in line for at one of the Nintendo distribution events in 1999 prior to the US release of Gold, Silver and Crystal and the second pokemon movie.
Rip your 3 Mews :(
@@woomyiism thank you :(
Damn, I'm speechless.
Of course there are methods to transfer your Gen 1/2 Pokemon to later generations but since your savefiles are dead that's not going to be possible.
@@aikou2886 last I knew my Red, Blue and Yellow cartridges I've had since 1998 or 99 still have working batteries so the saves are intact. Not so sure about Pokemon Stadium (US release) 1 and 2. I don't personally have the tech or knowledge to be able to transfer any pokemon from physical copies of the original games.
@@jennahsalvador4638 The knowledge part is not that much of an issue but you are going to need some gear.
Seriously... Gen 3 and 8 are nothing alike.
Gen 3 didn't have a choice and POKÉMON WERE COMPLETELY CODED IN!!! So via cheats or future trades they could still be obtained.
SWSH DOES NOT HAVE THE CODING!!! Meaning these missing Pokémon cannot be transferred at all.
not yet, at least.
@@Harold_Wilson From your lips to GameFreak's ears
@@thischannelisinactiveimsor9500 Except said models are the exact same ones from Pokémon:
-X & Y
-Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
-Sun & Moon
-Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon
-Go!
-Masters
-Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee
We know they're not brand new models, they don't have any new special animations, as for walking & running animations were made back during Gen 7 (I believe found in Ultra SM).
@@NagaYamiyo facts
So you cna have chimchar in Ruby, sapphire or emerald?
11:01 Um. No. As someone who was very active in the community back then, EVERYONE was upset that you couldn't bring your Gen 1 & 2 Pokemon into Gen 3. Hell, some people *still* complain about it even with the Virtual Console ports, Gen 1 &2 remakes, and the fact that their cart batteries on all their Gameboy games are long dead. So no.
the cart batteries can be changed yourself and that's what I did so it's not much of a problem.
did it for sapphire and ruby
@@pushyrummble8625 I did the same with my Silver & Sapphire versions!
pushy Rummble Will changing the battery on Sapphire or Emerald erase all the save data in the cartridge? I recently found my Sapphire. The battery died years ago, but the game is still playable.
@@AFriendlyNecromorph no
@@pushyrummble8625 the save system on the gameboy color games ran off a battery, so your save would fail when the battery died and changing the battery resets it. Unfortunately :/
Thanks for the shoutout at 5:34 😏
This is my favorite gen! They were my first games!
same
Thanks for mentioning
Me too
Exactly how i feel about gold silver and crystal , but gen 3 was awesome and paved the way for sure
Ditto
I just started Alpha sapphire and got a shiny Treeko yesterday!!! 🤩
Congrats! I hatched one myself back in February last year.
I soft reset 2000 times
@@loyaltoafault2623 wow that's still a low amount of resets for me
Loyal to A Fault congrats
Many congratulations to you! Here's to hoping that you get more shinies in the future! 🍻
11:08
It's not about not being able to catch them, it's about them being in the actual gamedata or not, which they are in Gen 3 (you could simply trade them) but not in Gen 8 (they are literally not in the game, along with 100 moves and a lot of other features, like major battle modes)
I think the reason people didn’t make such an uproar about not being able to transfer GBC Pokémon to GBA cartridges is because they internet wasn’t as prevalent back then and there wasn’t really anywhere for people to voice their frustration. Also the Pokémon’s codings were in the game, so even though they weren’t obtainable in game it was still possible to get them. I actually got every single Pokémon in Emerald back when completing a Pokédex actually meant something. Getting Celebi was such a pain in the ass because I had to track down a Japanese copy of Pokémon Coliseum and do the whole thing where you connect your GBA cartridge to your GameCube
It's more the case that people DID make a big uproar. Sales even dropped from people passing on Ruby and Sapphire. Hoops just plain said the wrong thing.
"as the case with Sword and Shield"
NO
ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was programmed into every gen 3 game. they may not all be attainable but they were ALL there.
With SwSh, all the missing pokemon do not exist, they literally are NOT programmed into the game.
Dont forget the unusable moves too
Gen 3 was not my first generation but it is absolutely my favorite. Back then it was a very tough time to be a Pokemon fan; all your friends started making fun of you for liking it, and because less people were playing, you had less opportunities to actually trade and instead had to buy multiple games and trade with yourself. But despite all of it, I spent so many hours in Hoenn trying to complete my Pokedex and discover every secret these games had to offer.
Yep, I remember it. Back in the day I actually as a kid bought both Sapphire and Ruby, can't say that I regret that decision.
I spent a lot of hours trying to complete that game 100%
Problem with Gen 3 was totally different than what happened with Sw/Sh.
With gen 3, it was technical limitations at the time that didn't allow transfer, but the all the data for the Pokemon were available(sprites, moves, cries, shinies, etc.)
With Sw/Sh this wasn't the case at all, trying to make new games yearly is a big flaw, and their excuse that they had to remake all the models from scratch was proven to be a lie as most of the returning Pokemons' models were similar or exactly the same as models from gen 6 & 7. Even Gen 3 has all the data for the previous Pkm, but Gen 8 did not; even some moves were excluded.
Recap:
Gen 3: Gamefreak couldn't figure out a program for a transfer process from GB(C)/Gen 1/2 to GBA/Gen3 at the time.
Gen 8: Sw/Sh was rushed for GF's yearly quota and had lied to fans for the reason why Pokemon were excluded.
Two totally different scenarios.
THANK YOU!!!
Seriously people need to stop comparing the two, as it is not the same problem!
not top mention they didn't paywall off your old pokemon deliberately. it was ahrdware. ANd thanks to how you can't get both box legendaries, or more than one like in gen7, you have to apy for P0okemon prison or lose all your GMax form pokemon, since Gmax trait isjn't passed on by breeding. ANd t5hey are giving us 100 pokemon back in two 15 dollar dlc in one expansion pass with like 5 new pokemon and exclusive new regional legendaries...which cna't be bred for. SO if you want them, have to cheat, or pay. I bet there will eb another 30 dollar expansion pass announced later too, since almost all the deleted pokemon got updates to their breeding and learnable moves lsits, includig gen8 TRs. On ALL the missing pokemon. I feel no motivation to try getting into competitive again, because it feels pointless ebcause Big Mega Mode is either an instant win or instant lose button.
@@ceilyurie856 I was never big into competitive battling but I liked having the competitive mons back in XY.
But Gen 7 I hated everything online and the EV training made no sense to me...
Now 8 the online is an even worse dumbster fire!... It's amazing how they went from such a perfect online system like the PSS in Gen 6 to the Y-com in Gen 8...
@Ceil Yurie
Or you could, you know, do what the series was designed for and trade for them.If they wanted to paywall the Pokemon they wouldn't update the games in such a way, what you're really paying for is the map and new story content.
@@NagaYamiyo gen6 ahd free voice chat if both players wanted to sue it. I even actually used it in trades. now, minors can't even trade with friends unless they use the bs system built into gen8. even though neither "home" nore gen8 having any actual chat features.
"Only eight year after the originals and with a minor jump on quality", that just tells me you dont know anything. To you living in the current year it may seem a small jump on quality, but it wasnt , it was a huge improvement to go from game boy color to game boy advance, the remakes didnt only improve upon the original graphics but also the gameplay and gave a lot of new content to the original. Fire red and Leaf green were the first celebration of pokemon being able to survive that long.
R/S/E/FR/LG weren't enough to get all 386 Pokémon available in Generation III. You also needed Pokémon Colosseum and XD.
How to catch Feebas in Emerald indeed hold a special place in my heart.
Wild coincidence: you posted this as Im playing through Hoenn for the first time!! Wild
Nice! Which gen are you playing, 3 or 6?
@@aikou2886 3! I would LOVE to play 6 tho but i never have :/ never had a 3ds, but ADORE the Mega Evolution concept
@@kidflashjnpr6905 I think Gen 3 is the better of the two if you are playing Emerald and don't mind not being able to use Gen 4~6 Pokemon.
The battle frontier kinda was a deal breaker for me.
EDIT: Yeah, I loved megas as well! Mostof them had a much better design and received a nice competitive upgrade as well.
I am playing Emerald! And i dont *mind* but I was recently made aware all 6 of my 6 favorite Pokemon are in X & Y lmao
I can replay emerald for the rest of time
Unobtainability is one thing not being programed is another completely different.
In no single Pokémon game before or after RSE all Pokémon were catchable but they were there, in the data. This time is completely the opposite, those Pokémon are not even in the data of Gen 8th and the developer is RELEASING them via paid DLC (talking only in the "catchable option" part of the talk), because they can?
Not true. Yes, more Pokemon are releasing with the DLC, but the availability of the Pokemon are entirely free. It's a free portion of the download. You do not have to pay to use the added in Pokemon, just whatever new ones they add.
@@elderbrew6249 Actually, you need to pay to use the other Pokemon, since you cannot find them in the wild: You need to transfer them over from Pokemon Home, which costs money.
So people who say the Pokemon in the updates are free, are spreading misinformation, since they aren't.
@@nickdentoom1173 You can also join in on raids that people do for the pokémon added in the DLC so no you don't need to pay for them. Plus you can get them though trading so before you want to jump right away to "The DLC Pokemon are held behind a pay wall" statement. There is free ways to get the Pokemon
@@jacobfransson5383 People still need to pay for Home or the DLC in order to get them (Even if its free for you). No matter how you look at it: Claiming that the Pokemon in the updates are free, is flat out wrong. You can get Slowpoke in the game, but to obtain Galarian Slowbro/Slowking, someone needs to have the DLC and then trade it to someone else who doesn't have it or Home.
I am buying the DLC, but just pretend i am not.
A friend of mine buys the DLC, he trades the Pokemon with me.
He payed for the Pokemon, i didn't.
And if you don't have any LOCAL friends and need to go on the internet to trade, only Local trade is free, international trade is not (More evidence the 'free' updates aren't actually 'free' updates).
So it doesn't matter how you look at it, the Pokemon are behind a paywall, but its hard for some people to admit this.
@@nickdentoom1173 free version of Pokemon home + Pokemon Go (when it becomes compatible) = no paywall
Dude, as an active fan at the time, there was HUGE backlash about not having all the Pokemon. Some even saying it was "obviously" a reboot to the series and it pissed off fans as bad if not worse than Gen V doing another take on that. But at least with Unova, we'd faced this before and knew had the ability to trade up from Gen IV so... -shrug-
I was so sad how Hoenn became like "the forgotten generation" due to how many people didn't play it (I would say Gen 3 as a whole really). I got all my friends into years later when I gushed about the plot and showed off my team at sleepovers. I even was on a fandom RP community not long before the remakes came out and there was some discussion in the group all "Archie is from Pokemon. I think he was like a gym leader or something?" I legit feel like the remakes only really got support between Chuggaaconroy and Twitch Plays Pokemon sparking interest in the game's since so many people didn't play them.
I loved gen 3 too. I'd play Sapphire so many times when I was younger
@@mikev4154 Ever since I first played emerald, gen three has been my favorite, and still is. I liked gen four, but it didn't grab me as much. Everything after that changed directions greatly and lost my attention
Gen 3 was my last one. Haven't played a pokemon game past fire red, I Like gen 3 . I just grew up tho
Sapphire was my first pokemon game back in 2002. I actually still have it. Sooo nostalgic
*Video starts
Me: The sound quality on this is fantastic, my goodness
Gen 3 had a HUGE backlash back in the day. It wasn't until later when people finally calmed down that they finally realized how fun the game was. The real issue was that gen 1 & 2 were set up under a completely different system, the biggest point being finally splitting the special stat into a special defense and special offense stat. This among a few other issues meant that there was no reasonable way to transfer the older ones into the new one without either creating severely overpowered Pokemon by letting the players keep the trained up stats on both sections, or severely crippling ones that had training time put into it. The whole reason the remakes were released was for the specific reason of finally letting people complete the pokedex again.
I can’t be the only one who finds it frustrating to think about all the efforts GF went through to patch the berry glitch, but the mis-coded shiny hunting method in Sword & Shield still hasn’t gotten a patch, even though distribution of such a patch would be infinitely easier today.
At this point it kinda seems like either GF is getting bored of Pokemon, or they are too busy trying to get the DLC ready to release a patch. (Hopefully a DLC has a patch with it)
10 obscure secrets
1: there is one water tile you can temporily walk on
2: You can't lose the first battle
3:You can temporarily join team Aqua if you don't have money at the museum
4:There is a character in the games code
etc.
Lazy ... lol
I have always exploited the entrance to the museum by strategically spending money on Pokeballs and selling stuff if I need to. I've known that trick pretty much since I first played. I was actually unaware that it's not common knowledge.
Not being able to transfer Pokemon from Red/Blue/Yellow and Gold/SIlver/Crystal is actually what kept me from buying the original Ruby/Sapphire for almost a year and a half. So... yeah, it was a big thing to the fans back then, just not big enough to make it into Newsweek yet.
I hate that there's SO. MANY. FORMS. OF. SPINDA. I'll never be able to get each pattern... 💔
The berry glitch could also be fixed st certain locations where they’d fix your game and get a shiny zigzagoon
I think there was some issue with transferring from Gen 2 to 3 because of the IV system being changed, there was I think a max of 15 per stat back in the first and second gen, but in 3rd and beyond it’s 31 which doesn’t divide evenly
Braille in pokemon: regular people cant read because they dont know braille and blind people cant read because they cant see. Well done.
1. There is too much water
But at least surfing felt needed
Buy repels if the encounters were too much for you
@@cs5250 You must be fun at parties
You can transfer pokemon from gen 1 and 2 to gen 3 with tools. Linkara did a video on it.
This pandemic gave me opportunity to recall all my past event. This include my deleted save file of Pokemon emerald. I started over and beat the game again. Guessed you are never too old to play Pokemon.
there is maybe some time in your life where you are "too cool" but you are never too old. My father loved the Pokemon Pinball on the GBC and he used to play the slot machines in Pokemon in the first an second gen when i was in school and he had free time :D
So, since we couldn’t complete the National Dex until Fire Red and Leaf Green came out for Gen 3, does that mean DP remakes are guaranteed for Gen 8?
No, Pokemon home but I hope DP remakes come out
You can get 383 Pokémon (including Ho-oh and Lugia from the Game Cube Games) since Mew, Celebi and Deoxys are event only, so that's a pretty good percentage.
malcolm in the middle is a pretty good show.
yes
SwSh comparison is bogus but still a cool video, I had zero idea about the Marine Science Museum or the fleeing Prof. Birch battle. Gonna have to try both of those on my next playthrough.
There were only 67 of the 251 in Ruby and Sapphire, so you had to wait over 2 years to get 249 of the 251, unless you got the Navel Rock event. Getting Mew and Celebi was harder.
March 2003: 67 (47 Kanto, 20 Johto)
March 2004: 66 (All available Johto Pokemon plus their base forms and evolutions minus Tyrogue due to Hitmontop being 100% male)
September 2004: 115 (103 Kanto Pokemon, 11 Johto Pokemon required Kanto connections: Cleffa, Politoed, Slowking, Steelix, Scizor, Porygon2, Tyrogue, Elekid, Magby, Smoochum, and Blissey, and Unown was found at the Tanoby Ruins)
October 2005: 1 (Lugia)
Yeah, you can't compare the transferring issues, for lack of a better term, of Ruby and Sapphire with those of Sword and Shield as the data for all the, at the time 383, Pokemon was present in the game so you could theoretically get them all via a cheating device, with Gen VIII however, they didn't even code them into the game and then made a sorry ass excuse about "animations being too difficult" even tho all the Gen 1 'mons had already been updated for Let's Go and most of the ones that didn't get cut are just upscaled 3DS models.
You can check the posts on those old Pokémon forums from 2003. The fan base was PISSED about not being able to bring their Pokémon from Gen 2 to Gen 3.
"Minor jump graphically" Excuse me?
Compare it to the other remakes
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Comparing it doesn't make it minor, it just makes it look less impressive, but that's not actually the reality of the situation.
1. The remake obtained true color.
2. It upgraded from 8 to 16 bit.
3. Massive redesign/sprite overhaul
That's obviously massive. Suggesting otherwise means it's somehow not worth mentioning, and there was barely a reason for the remake even though it brought color to the first generation, and realized it.
Fire Red & Leaf Green really solidified what we know gen 1 as today.
Of course the issue about not getting all the Pokemon in Ruby and Sapphire wasn't that big because the internet back then isn't as big as now, same with the number of fans. Your statement at 11:05 is so condescending, lol
If u connected ruby/sapphire to a walmart gamecube,u got the update & a free shiny zigzagoon holding a liechi berry
Sudowoodo was only available in Emerald, and there was only one.
yeah at the battle frontier
You're dead wrong about the comparison between 3G and 8G but many other comments already explained. So I'll just sum up the History of "Pokemon cuts".
1G and 2G : You can catch them all, but you need to trade with others in order to get version exclusives (and Starters and Legendaries).
3G : You can't catch all 386 Pokemons in one game, but all of them do exist in-game. Besides, the Hoenn Dex is a mix of Pokemons from all generations, there's the 130 or so new creatures along with 150 from previous gens. Then, FRLG and Emerald completed the collection by bringing the hundreds or so that didn't make the cut to this generation. In the end, all Pokemons are available through all games of this generation. There _was_ an outrage, and the sales actually suffered from it, but the fact is all Pokemons do exist in every game of this generation.
5G : Again, you can't catch all Pokemons, but they still exist in the codes. However the Unova Dex is comprised of ONLY the 151 new Pokemons. None of the 493 others are obtainable in BW (except maybe in the postgame? I don't remember). That caused a huge outrage too, but Game Freak fixed that with BW2, where the Dex is a mix between all generations.
8G : A huge chunk of the previous Pokemons don't exist at all. They aren't coded, and that's the point of the "Dexit" : Game Freak wants to deliver higher quality, and they can't do that if they have to program all 900 Pokemons every single time. The problem, of course, is SwSh are low quality games even despite the Dex cut. However, New Pokemon Snap and Legends proved their point: with a limited number of Pokemon, they can deliver something better. It doesn't change the fact that the outrage is deserved though, especially since they did bring back a few hundreds of creatures *and locked them behind a paywall.*
Yes, the History of Pokemon is filled with dark times, lol. But looking back at it, it's funny how each situation is unique, like the response of Game Freak for every crisis. In the case of 3G, they had clearly planned that all Pokemons would be split between the games. In the case of 5G, I feel like they tried to reboot the franchise by erasing all existing Pokemons, but chickened out after the outrage and decided to add back a lot of them in the sequel (that said, since the older gen creatures were already programmed in the first game, I'm probably wrong). As for 8G, they handled the situation very poorly. The easy solution would be to make temporary National cut: they release the games with half of the Dex, and progressively add the others. That would still mean using resources to work on all of the 1000 Pokemons, but that would make the job easier for them.
I'm personally not against the Dex cut, as long as we still get at least 400 creatures in the main games. Legends had only 250, and although I loved this game, I want more than that for SV and the following ones.
I'm going through Emerald right now. Great video as always!
Yes, you can't transfer Pokémon from Gen1+2 to Gen3, but unlike SwSh, every Pokémon that existed so far was coded in the games, at least. Thanks to FrLg and Emerald, you can transfer them into Ruby and Sapphire and you can use them.
And, if I remember correctly, GameFreak revealed just last year that they won't include every Pokémon in future games, even if they'd be tradable. There is the biggest difference of both situations.
Personally, I defended GameFreak's decisions a lot of times over the last decade (I even defended UsUm when people got mad at the games, because I think they are what SuMo always had to be, which made SuMo more unnecessary games imo, and I really love UsUm, as well as X&Y/OrAs and BW/B2W2. All of these games are the most enjoyable games, right after the Gen3 games) but for the first time ever, I didn't feel great with playing SwSh because of so many issues, starting with animations & graphics (if there were pixel textures or not enough space for animating moving Pokémon on a DS or 3DS game, I wouldn't mind that because of the system-capacity, but c'mon it's the Switch SwSh take place. A console, you almost have to pay twice as much as the 3DS console + 3DS game).
Another things are the story (which began slowly, bits by bits, but got rushed at the end, right before you're about to become the champion), the handholding/dialogs which lead you to nowhere (annoying things no one needs), the Galar-region itself (which is just a corridor run, since you HAVE TO go to and see every single place before you complete the main-story, with nothing left to explore on your own) and to take away the options of previous games (to turn the EXP-share on and off, to choose another path as usual without any NPC blocking your way and tell you what you need to do first or to do some trainer-rematches on various routes without removing things like the VS.-Seeker entirely)
But even if they were coded you still couldn't get them with just those games, so it really makes no difference
@@Mqstodon Let's imagine that your favorite Pokémon would be the Kanto starters, the legendary birds, the legendary beasts, Togepi/Togetic, one of the Nidoran-lines or Dragonite (which are available in FireRed/LeafGreen) for example. You're still able to play them in Ruby/Sapphire via trading, which makes the games feel complete because you're free to choose how you want to play the most recent region.
Most of my favorite Pokémon are Aggron, Camerupt, Sharpedo, Tropius, Metagross, Salamence, Groudon, Luxray, Dialga and Giratina. And even if they'll be available in Sinnoh-remakes, they're not playable in Galar, because they're not coded in these games. So it feels empty, shallow and incomplete to play Sword/Shield.
It wouldn't be that much of a problem, if it'd be the only issue. But besides the animation or some graphical aspects (which I don't care about), the story is almost nothing at the beginning and rushed at the end. And the region is only a large corridor, where you have to visit and explore every single location within the main-story, with nothing left to explore on your own.
But the good thing is that Sword/Shield were able to make me love the previous region Alola even more. Because there are places you're free to explore optional and at least, there is a post-game area and every single Pokémon is playable.
Since Pokémon is the only franchise I use to play, it's also the only reason I bought a Switch. But the only GOOD reason for getting a switch so far is the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Remake. So at least it wasn't completely a waste of money and time.
Ive cleared my pockets once to try the slateport museum thing
I accidentally had it happen on my first playthrough, cuz I overstocked on pokeballs
You can unlock the caves of regis on the route with the ocean current by having wailord and relicanth in the party and finding the dive spot
1:50 that is no zigzagoon that right there is a poochyena brother.
Well I’m ruby and sapphire it was a zigzagoon and in emerald it was a poochyena
Don’t even try to excuse Gen 8 back them there was limitations but Gen 8 is Console which has more power than the portable hardware and they had years to get it together. Let’s stop justifying Sword and Shields laziness and fuk ups
"Braille language..." Not to be 'that person,' but Braille isn't a language. It's a writing system, like the letters we use to express English, French, Spanish, German, and a whole load of other languages. But it's not a language itself.
Hoops: Mentions a Young Couple named Hal and Lois.
Me: "That can't be right! If they *both* loved each other that much, they'd never leave the Bedroom!" 🤣 Sorry, just had to say it.
Hector Hernandez She likes it in the butt!!!
You're joking right? People were just as furious for gen 3 back then as well. So much backlash that a lot of fans straight up stopped playing.
Actually, the Pokémon you save Professor Birch from in Ruby and Sapphire is a Poochyena. It’s only a Zigzagoon in Emerald.
The problem with SW/SH now having all the pokemon is not like the gen 3 games.
The gen 3 games didn't have the ability to transfer pokemon from the 1st and 2nd gen games, but they made up for it by making a remake of the old gen 1 games and releasing two spinoff games.
SW/SH can transfer pokemon from lower gens, however gamefreak just decided on the brilliant idea of leaving out a lot of pokemon, and just not making them obtainable at all.
There's a big difference
A few things about the gen 3 vs Gen 8 thing. 1) The Pokémon were all coded in and intended to be obtainable. Something not immediate clear about sword and shield at the time of the controversy.
2) General audiences were younger and in an age without readily accessible internet and social media to the scope we have today. So controversy didn’t spread as quickly or as fervently.
3) Long before sword and shield I’ve heard plenty of classic Pokémon fans lament that they couldn’t bring their gen 2 mon over to gen 3. For attachment reasons and cause of old GB batteries.
Wait, you really think nobody complained about Gen 3? You think that everyone was okay with leaving their collections behind the after the hype of Gen 2 and starting again without any of their favorites using unfamiliar Pokemon? That's a really strange assumption to make.
1:50 wow that a very poochyena like zigzagoon
Lol
Yeah, now I have to wonder whether he just played through Emerald for these secrets. Which means, I have to wonder whether or not that single tile of water exists in Ruby and Sapphire at all!
In altering cave if you go to the top little room and step on the top right tile then the next Pokemon you battle will be shiny. I haven't tried it on Ruby or sapphire, but it works in fire red/leaf green.
GTFO
@@cardellgiovanni1 used it to get the shiny versions of the legendaries
Jeremy Morrison get out of here troll. You aren’t fooling anyone
Well, dang! Now I need a link cable so I can fix my sapphire! I replaced the battery, and berries still wouldn't grow, so I just figured I couldn't fix it.
That may not necessarily be the case. In order to fix the dead battery issue, you must also start a new save file. Though it wouldn’t hurt to get the berry glitch fixed anyway
the way you pronounce zigzagoon fills me with so much rage
Why? What's wrong?
@@zerefuuutv zig-ZAG-oon. its supposed to be pronounced zig-zuh-goon
Well it's possible to trade Pokemon from gen1 and gen 2 it's just complicated and requires some perchases depending on if it's a card or rom. The main reason you can't trade Pokemon in my opinion is how EVs work in those games, when following the steps to transfer your rom Pokemon to gen 3 the EVs are over the maximum 720 and would cause Pokemon to be overpowered since it's higher than normal.
I don’t understand who is telling you that no one was upset about the issue of transferring Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire. People were pissed. I’m not even that old of a fan and I remember people used to talk about it all the time. Even online. Just cause it wasn’t as “loud” doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I wouldn’t make such bold assumptions without having spoken to fans who were around back then or look up old message boards and stuff. It DID rustle feathers.
I love red, blue, yellow, gold,silver,crystal,ruby,saphire and emerald. I played pearl version and just couldn't get into it. I play shield as of now and some of the Pokemon just confuse me, the game play is cool and different
Hoenn is basically that piece of land with too much water and trumpets.
They coded all pokemon into the gen 3 games. Sw/Sh had 17 years and leaps and bounds of hardware tech.
One big problem from R/S: Low bag capacity.
i like u bro, u don't have any extra BS at the beginning of ur video and go straight to it and lots of cool details keep it up homie
Pretty sure there were people complaining about that back in the days. But cause reddit and other stuff didnt excist and 4chan was all we got, most complaints fell on deaf ears. And the people that didnt complain probably were still trusting gamefreak. Dont make guesses as to what happenend back then.
Everyone is talking about how Hoops don't know the difference between gen 3 and 8's situation, I am just disappointed that he didn't say anything about pressing start during a double battle
Ruby and sapphire : gotta catch em all!!!
Gamers : theres 386 pokemon but you can only catch 135 pokemon in eatch game?
Pokemon creators : theyre on to us!!!
In my country if you have any problem with a cartrige, you can cry as much as you want
Gen 8 is SO much worse than Gen 3. Gen 8 is like if Gen 3 made it to where you can't transfer the Pokemon up, but they also completely stripped out the Pokemon that you couldn't transfer. (Which is EXACTLY what they did.)
Sorry, but rse and sw/sh are two totally different scenarios. Rse they still took the time to code in all past mon, even if for all they knew, we’d never get a legit way to obtain them (which is true for some mythical s for the game)
Sw/sh despite this being the easiest to trade up from the past in Pokémon history, cut over half the dex, then lied in their explanation...
Ok, but there's no difference because even if they were in the code you still couldn't catch them
people were SUPER pissed off in gen 3. and 2003-2006? you mean that time NO ONE wanted pokemon anymore?
This... was actually informative. Here I thought I knew everything about these games.
In regards of the berry glitch, if you have 2 game boy advances a link cable and the e-reader, you can scan a specific e-reader card that inserts the necessary data to fix the aforementioned glitch.
I kept saying how this gen wasn't even the first time that previous pokemon weren't available, gen 2 fans were royally screwed in gen 3.
Gen 5 also started without any previous pokemon, but you could transfer them so that doesn't count.
I don't know a single people who played both Gen 2 and Gen 3 who didn't complain about the inability to trade between them.
The fan base was not happy, and I remember a lot of my friends citing it as the reason they quit Pokémon at the time.
IDK why you seem to think that people didn't complain. Maybe because it largely predates the wide adoption of the internet and hence it presence on the internet is fairly small?
2:02 Bruh I just checked it today
Glad to know people are still talking about RSE.
Was just playing Emerald with my repaired GBA SP a few weeks back.
at the time that I'm putting up this comment, there are exactly 6969 views lol
of course, 200 views rolled in within 3 minutes so this comment is now completely irrelevant.
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire was my first, and favorite game in the series. Thanks for the great content!
Same, however, I had played many emulators before that (as I couldn't get the actual consoles)
@@swinley2610 Yo same here. Omega ruby was my first legit cartridge game and the other ones i played before were on emulators
:/
Reem ?
Wait...you cannot complete all the pokedex by only using Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire red and Leaf Green. You also need the connection for the gamecube with Colosseum and XD. Indeed I'm still actually stuck w/o them :c
I love that Background Zinnia Theme
My ranking of Hoenn-7.8/10 Too much water
Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :)
Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu.
Love your video as always
The woeful understatement of the switch from Gen 2 to Gen 3 without the ability to transfer pokemon between the two is so criminal I'd warrant a do-over for this video. (I lived through the mass disappointment of that shit at the time...)
And like someone else in the comment section mentioned, comparing Gen 3's situation with Gen 8 is apples to oranges.
When i went to ocean museum i had no money and they counted me as team aqua member it happened to me in pokémon emerald
On the museum fee, my friend actually wasted all money before that and he didn't have enough. I remember he had to sell some items to have enough to get in. There was no $0 entrance fee like you said here. He was playing Sapphire, maybe that's an Emerald feature?
I think this is more proof that Hoops only played Emerald for these Ruby and Sapphire "facts".. #fail