Gear Heads | Growing Fresh Herbs with Indoor Gardens
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Countertop garden systems promise to make it easy to grow fresh herbs. But do they deliver? Lisa and Hannah put them to the test.
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People asking for DIY alternatives: there are a few different well-reviewed $20 led grow lights on Amazon. A couple of those plus an inexpensive wire rack (or really any) shelf and some $1-2 faux terra cotta pots and you've got something that's more flexible, has much more capacity, and will likely give you better results.
Light is inverse square intensity so the Aerogarden is much more efficient if you don't mind adjusting it. It has a shared root bath so the self contained pods are a bit easier when it come time to clean the tank.
I love, LOVE how this video was shot and edited. Here's to positive adaptation and change, ATK! Same familiar faces, modern solutions to modern needs!
I have an Aerogarden that I am very pleased with. My 2 “crops” were healthy. And didn’t require the attention that they discussed. A third planting was used as the bedding plants for my outdoor containers.
Marian Extejt I agree. They screwed up the plants in the Aerogarden, and are blaming the app for not paying attention to watering, and burning the plants. Seriously, these are contained gardens, not teenagers taking care of themselves. I expected better from these women.
@@SM-ji1qe Agreed. They made the mistake with the Aerogarden, it did not fail them. Odd review.
aerogarden tells you to harvest before they get out of control. I love mine. I have all salad plants
Thank YOU Americas test kitchens for doing all the work for us!!!
Oooh I need one of these. For...herbs. Yeah, that's it. Herbs.
Remember some 🌱 grow very large larger then this frame especially tropical and asiatic plants
Wait, you can still get seeds?
@@doctorivan i remember getting tons of seeds in my dime bags of "oregano" in Central Park. 🤪
(John Kirby, you're not an actor by chance?)
Get the "Bounty" version of the Aerogarden. It is much larger and has a vertical extension rod that makes it much taller. Plus it is regularly on sale for around or just over $200. It is a lot easier and convenient than what they make it out to be. That tall white one that I think was called the "Click" has a light bar that is stationary which is bad. That is why that lettuce was floppy and spindly, the light needs to be much closer than that. I guess this the kind of review you get from people that don't actually know a ton about it. So if you plan to get something like this without spending a fortune, buy the Aerogarden Bounty base model and it will out perform all of these and is much larger. The reason the Edn had so many issues was likely it had bad or no seed. You need to make sure the expiration date on the package is still good. Also temperature/humidity make big impacts on the viability of the seed and whether it will germinate or not. If the pods were sitting in a hot warehouse for six months or more that could have ruined the seeds in the pods.
Wow thank you. Super helpful!
I love my Harvest Slim Aerogarden and bought it several years ago on sale through Macy's. I've never used an app and am not sure why it would have alerted ATK to add water constantly. That just doesn't make sense. I've recently been growing basil and it's been amazing to have the basil handy for cooking and making pesto. The plants have lasted much longer than I would have thought, too.
@@maryg.1014 The weather where I live is turning cold right now. Time to get my Aerogarden and homemade hydroponics going in the basement. I grow lettuce, micro tomatoes, and cucumbers along with the herbs. Normally basil, thai basil, and thyme. I also make my own hydroponic feed for the plants not in the Aero. They are great. I did just have to replace the air stone though recently, but it was easy to find and cheap.
@@robertm4050 I've never tried tomatoes or cucumbers, but perhaps I should! Thanks for sharing.
@@maryg.1014 Be careful which tomatoes you choose since they need to be tiny unless you build your own hydroponic system. You could try the "Dutch Bucket" technique for the tomatoes, not sure how cukes would do. But as far as the varieties of cucumbers you should get "Parthenocarpic"(not sure of spelling?) varieties which tend to look like Persian/Japanese cukes because they don't need to be pollinated or hand pollinated. If you want any more specific info like how I built mine or what I use to fertilize just ask.
Great vid didn’t expect this from atk. And why I’m proud to be a member. I also would love more info on diy but also stupid proof herb growing.
Hey Lisa, ❤️ thanks for what y’all do. I’ve been wanting to plant an herb garden.
This made me to understand that you can actually grow herbs in own home
Based on your reviews my plan is to buy a good grow light and put it on a timer which is cheap and simple. Adding monitoring (pH, moisture etc.) would be very easy to do with a Raspberry Pi or an even cheaper microcontroller. All the $200 buys is some plastic and a small grow light.
On aero gardens there is also a water pump to keep roots oxygenated. Also the designer plastic allows for easy cleaning and a bleach or vinegar treatment before planting for next season. Directions included.
Once again Americas test kitchen comes to my rescue! I should just search you guys any time I need to get anything. I'm still loving the ninja smoothie blender I bought because of your review
I love what you’ve done with the show! Keep up the good work.
I have an AeroGarden Harvest, and it's amazing - easy (no app needed), and great yield. The only thing that grows tall is the basil; everything else gets along nicely. Their cherry tomatoes are yummy & the plants are quite hardy. IDK why this unit seemed difficult to you - maybe the app made it harder?
The Click & Grow looks nice, but it's huge! both its footprint and clearance for height.
FYI for some other commenters: There are ways to reduce the amount of plastic waste when you use these systems, which is another plus. :-)
Exactly this! :D
I've learned that basil and dill should not be planted w other herbs, and leafy herbs and woody herbs should be separated too ideally. after some experimentation, I do basil kratky style next to the aero garden and that's worked great for me. I love the aero garden.
my top pick is the aerogarden i have one and its growing very well if you don't want to put in the work then don't buy a garden these are not the people that should have a garden if you will take proper care of the garden then i think you should buy the aerogarden because you can use their pods for an easy guaranteed grow (not a work free grow) or you can use the grow anything kit/ buy the baskets sponges and labels in bulk to grow your own plants with almost any seed.
Wish there was a couple DIY options tested or even a windowsill control. I'm not gonna go out and spend two hundred bucks on a fancy automatic planter when I can get the same results with the window I'm already paying rent for and a ten dollar planter. Also I can buy a desktop lamp for another ten bucks and I could probably find an indoor sun bulb for a few bucks more.
Sure, you found the best planter, but you didn't assess whether or not one of those is even necessary, which is a really important consideration considering these things are targeted at people who can't afford to garden outside.
Wow!!! Thank you! I have always wondered about these
Thank you for doing this! I was just looking to get something like this.
Really like the new style of the test kitchen videos!
More at home gardening vids please! Also discuss which types of plants are best for in home
Amazing video! Thank you! :)
Great video ATK, as usual
I replaced one of my under cabinet lights with an aquarium grow light for a couple bucks. It grows herbs just fine, and those lights stay on 24/7 365. No on-off needed.
They should not be on all the time, your plants need rest like humans do. Max 16 hours during early growth and sit around 12 hours to sustain growth is whats needed, the dark hours are just as important.
@@MaZEEZaM they're mostly gone before it matters
Great info, Thanks
Yes very helpful video. Now do another one with large units
I would love to have a pint or two with both wonderful ladies and talk about kitchen gadgets! Best regards to both of you!
Right? They aren't just knowledgeable but both really seem to enjoy every aspect of cooking and eating.
I'm going to give this a like because it exposes the gullibility of the US consumer. OTOH, if you don't have light and want fresh herbs, or just like green leafy things and have a lot of money to burn (in which case you probably do have light) then it *might* be an option for a very few people.
If you live in a low humidity area, high altitude (7000ft), unpredictable outside snows, and with little direct sunlight where you want to grow things hydroponics is ideal. I don't have money to burn but so far my units have lasted for several planting cycles and seem ok for more. Putting in Skylights and Air conditioning unit bc of the heat from sunlight from a skylight came to about $8000. A few hundred dollars satisfied my wants. A bargain.
Is it possible to use the Click and Grow Smart Garden using your own seeds? or do you have to use their pods every time?
Hmmmm…. I may try this click and go next time around. I’ve had 4 diff aero gardens but I like this white color
Good to know, thanks!
Thanks 👍
I have both Click and Grow and Aerogarden. Couldn't agree more with this review. While I love both of them, Click and Grow is a lot simpler and it also just looks more aesthetically pleasing
Soooooo coool!!!!!
These systems are way too expensive and you need their pods (except the one that didn't perform well). It is much cheaper to buy a heavy duty shelf, grow lights and hooks.
Please mention next time, besides the initial cost, what it costs to replant. What kind of yields? Seems too pricey to be economically viable compared to other options. A very niche product.
not really, all its going to cost to replant is new seeds and every so often replace the potting mix and some mixed fertiliser.
@@MaZEEZaM not for the pods.
@@xurx2838 You don't have to use the prepared pods. My mother gave me her old Aerogarden because it was "broken" (just needed a new bulb). Rather than buying the sealed pods I bought a set of reusable plastic pods and planting medium that worked out to less than $1 each. Now, if I could figure out a way to keep my cat out of it, I'd be all set.
In my younger College days I used to grow beautiful weed plants with just a clip on desk lamp with a daylight CFL bulb in my bedroom closet so I'm sure basil wouldn't be that hard.
Exactly! You do not need a 200 dollar setup for herbs.
I got the Miracle Grow Bounty to have a countertop garden. I don't know what counter that click and grow is supposed to go on. I am happy with mine.
Just curious...was the Juice Plus Tower garden tested? If not, are there any plans to compare it to the Click n Grow
I've been contemplating an indoor garden for years, but my major fear was being overrun with veg. This was extremely useful and helpful for what I'm sure will be the next round of "do I really want to do this?" Thanks!
It quickly becomes habit to snip a few leaves of whatever is available or pick a few cherry tomatoes. Just add 1/2 t pf vinegar to 1t of whatever oil you prefer. A squish of real salt or Himalayan salt and a twist of pepper and you have lunch. In my house I do something similar to go with an egg for lo-carb breakfast. Being overrun with veg would be ideal! :)
@@JK-ff6zc Sounds good, but I have to laugh. I grew up on a small farm where we always planted 10 - 15 tomato plants. Between the juice, the soup, the ketchup, the chili sauce and the stewed tomatoes, we had enough tomato products in the pantry to feed us for over a year.
Fast forward to my moving to Los Angeles. I listened to a cooking show on the radio one day. Lady called in panicked over the 3 tomato plants she had next to her garage. It seemed that she was over run with the red stuff and not sure what to do.
Me? I laughed. A lot. Grateful I didn't need to wash, peel, process and can all those fruits.
@@janetmoore1124Small farms are ideal. Then you can have ducks and geese. And fruit trees.
@@JK-ff6zc We did. :) That's where I learned I had no interest in being a farmer.
@@janetmoore1124We moved. LOL
Thank you.
My fav is aero garden it’s beeps when it needs something and super easy…. Takes small counter space
Can you make one for a windowsill garden?
The winner looks really huge. What's the best choice if I don't have a ton of space to keep my garden?
Smaller models are available. Click n Grow units also look prettier than the others but they do confine the roots so hard to get a continual harvest after 2 months. Stuff just dies. Aero Garden newer models work better for ongoing plants like a regular garden but buy newer models than the tested one.
The Aerogarden also makes a small model and a larger model. It works really well, its just limited in how tall the plants can get. My boyfriend uses his Aerogarden to germinate plants, and then he transplants them to a garden when they get larger.
I like my Click n Grow supposedly same model but yours has a higher arch. How did you do that?? My Aero Garden Bounty model is far better than the model you have - yours looks really old. Not a fair comparison. I'd like to see the Aero Garden Farm XL model tested too. I have that as well(not countertop). The AeroGardens do a better job with roots for true hydroponics for continual harvesting. The Click n Grow confines the roots so these plants are very short-lived. Yours are looking sickly after 5 weeks. To add these 2 types to a secure wifi if you need a MAC address requires contact with their tech support for a few days.
The short ones look like they were made for going under the counter and for where you'd be clipping them all the time
The more you clip the better the plant grows
The winner looks like it'd need its own room or house
I have a porch on my 2nd floor apartment and cannot keep plants alive beyond maybe a month or two at most. Some plants die in a week. Is it possible to use the click and grow planting pods without the arch and just plant them in a porch with natural sunlight and shade?
I think you cannot remove the arch - at least on my model. You can leave the lights turned off easily enough.
Please tell me this fast cut at 5:41 happened because the editor did not want the world to see Lisa bend down to take a chomp out of those herbs.
My Chia Pet garden is almost a decade old, cost about $10 and so far all's well. All I need is a tray and a window.
That lettuce looks so pale and leggy. Either you didn’t start the light off lower (it _does_ have an adjustable height) or the roots have broken through the wick and aren’t drawing enough nutrients from the ‘pods’. I’ve grown the same lettuce in the same ‘garden’ and it was a lot bushier and more of a vibrant green.
Was this paid by Click & Grow? It is recommended by them to start with the low light setting and then use the extensions. You seem to paint a slightly blurry picture. And I purchased a click and grow myself as it seems the best option
Is there a way to test the nutritional quality and flavor of the herbs and veggies grown in some of those? I know for most plants, a LOT depends on the soil in which they're grown, especially mineral content. Carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, and nitrogen are all easy to come by from air, water, and simple fertilizers, but minerals like magnesium, selenium, manganese, Iron, etc have to be in the soil to make it into the plant. I know it doesn't take much, only traces (hence the usual name 'trace minerals') but they are pretty important, and can vary from plant to plant.
Another good stat, and probably much easier to measure, is the time/cost factor between growing your own herbs and just buying what you need from the store.
They all depend on the soil or rather access to nutrients, the quality of the access will determine the nutritional value.
what if your cell phone does not have the app ability for the quick and grow?? any other way to monitor it?? I'm guessing "old school" with using a calendar and pen?? Thanks for going the extra mile in testing the models for growing herb garden indoors.
Rio DJeNIRO The AeroGarden I have has a small display that will also tell me when to feed or water it
You do not really need the Click & Grow app; you can just look at the water tank which has a bobber that sinks if it needs water.
So, I’m going to keep my tray and clip on led set up ($45, total)? Cool.
I'm not sure I can agree w this, the aero garden is much more flexible and not that difficult. and that lettuce on the Click N Grow was barely alive, it was so leggy, the light is too far away, the basil was fine bc it does not need as much light.
My problem with most indoor garden systems is you have to have a fair amount of usable real estate to have them, no matter how 'compact' they claim. You lose cubic footage from the table, shelf or counter, and you lose an outlet.
I would agree, but given that (a) I am not able to get down on my knees let alone (b) I have no usable outside space for either a garden or a container garden, the indoor option is just that, an option. It comes down to what you want/need and what you are willing to give up for it.
It looks like the Click and Grow has an extra long extender compared to mine.
My apartment has windows but I don't get any sun light though them that is direct. Also I live in Tucson so it is extremely hot out side, even if I had a porch (I wish I had a porch or patio) Besides that My apartment is very small less than 700 square feet. So I'm Shit out of luck I guess. lol and when I bought the little ones from the store my two cats kept playing with them, so they don't survive the interaction very well.
I live in N AZ - not hot but otherwise many of the same situations re. low light, low humidity. These work nicely in small spaces. My first click n grow was on top of a shelf near my front door. It added light and humidity and pretty lettuces to my desk area on the other side of the shelf. Only problem was remembering to check the water level.
I wish I had known about the Slick and Grow Smart Garden. I had bought the Miracle grow. All of the problems you had, I also I. Also, after 1 year to the date I bought it, it died. I tried to have it repaired, but it was unsuccessful. Thanks for the info.
With the Click and Grow...can you plant and grow plants easily from seeds YOU buy, rather than buying the pre-made pre-packaged dirt/plant modules from the company?
Interesting that the products were the same price but wildly different results
The amount of plastic waste these products seem to produce makes me sad. It's the herb equivalent of a Keurig.
silentarcher I reuse the plastic pod containers. I do have to use new labels and pods though.
@@jessicahuang3694 thanks for sharing what you can reuse :)
If you're going to use it for herbs and basil, you're not going to need more unless you don't take care of your plant and it dies. You will only need to trim it and use the trimmings. You could repurpose the pod as a watering can.
Yeah - a lot of plastic and fertilizer. Or you can just go buy some organic herbs when you need them and probably still come out ahead $-wise.
@@smarsalis65 I think that you do come out ahead $-wise. I bought one of these because I was having difficulty getting basil in the winter --- and I use it alot. I grow my own during the spring and summer.
I own an aerogarden and know that it is the best at growing hydroponic plants. Sorry ladies, you still have to trim and take care of your plants.
Thank you for featuring Lisa McManus. She is the reason why I subscribed to your channel. Her videos are always so thorough and informative.
what if I don't have a smart phone?
What about aero garden?
I think it’s time for an update?
I just want to keep one basil plant alive. Other people can do it. Why can't I?
the thing i've learned about basil is it needs heat and it needs pruning. also, don't fertilize it too much. if you over fertilize, it can start getting "burned," which is an expression used when plants are given way too many nutrients at once. Basil is pretty prolific without the need for extra fertilizer
All of these work on the principle that you literally 1-2 days you will thin and top the growing herbs to 1-4 inches in height. If you want a garden - plant your seeds outside. This is a mini garden and means mini plants.
Aero Gardens will grow regular lettuces and herbs. And the roots are healthy so can be transplanted outside if you are lucky enough to have a garden plot outside. My high mountain climate makes outdoor gardening difficult for any but the most robust plants that will have a harvest in less than 3-4 months depending on first frost. . Using Aero-Gardens in Spring for germination adds about 6 weeks to growing season if the frosts allow.
I would be concerned about eye damage from all these UV lights, no shielding at all from any of them.
wait until you learn about the sun
I love my aerogarden. You either got the wrong one or did something wrong.
for $200 I can set up a much larger grow system
$200 each? I may need help getting off the floor!
I don’t think people are going to be growing basil and lettuce in these things 😉
Alright atk crew/fans, I see a lot of requests for diy options. Lets see some plans for an herb garden built with hardware store parts. This has been a project idea of mine for a while. I'll share an update when I have a design figured out, but if somebody has already invented the wheel, I don't mind not Reinventing it.
finally, actually content outside of Dan's
These are counter top gardens (which in its own way is an oxymoron). Get a grow box for the same price and be able to truly grow anywhere (on the patio, on the lawn, on the sidewalk, driveway, in the house atrium/arboretum, ... and be able to move it without any lights, electricity, further costs. This is a true mobile garden, and with a southern facing window with proper sunlight you can grow a massive portion of green. Forget this niche-cliche item. Go for a real mobile container garden if you are going to grow anything that you want large and tall ....
You are assuming they have sufficient access to sunlight, many indoor situations don't not to mention growing during winter when seasonally the plants wouldn't not normally grow.
@@MaZEEZaM Then you are back to growing a MINI-garden, not a regular MAXI-garden of vegs/herbs ... can't put a nitrogen bottle on this garden and make it a race car ...
These are all terrible compared to buying standalone pots and grow lights
Grow lights are seriously expensive though.
@@MaZEEZaM You can get grow lights for like $20. When compared to these $200 solutions, I wouldn't call them "seriously expensive."
But what abt the ""SmArT fEaTuReS"" 😭 how can i grow plants without wifi connectivity 😭😭😭
Kitchen herbs and lettuce grow in my AG about 5x faster than in miracle grow soil and a grow light with timer.
really have we gotten to the point that we need app's to grow herbs !!!!
I can't wait in a couple of years when all these developers of these apps go away and no longer support it... making these pretty useless.
Probably won't be an issue TBH.
Most likely these won't be made in a couple years and the electronics will invariably fail.
People have developed a bad habit of thinking everything needs computer chips.
One of the silliest things I have seen. If you want hands off gardening, buy your herbs at the grocery store. Otherwise get a pot, fill it with soil and plant an herb and place it by a window. If you don't have windows, the chances are you're not going to mind store bought anything!
Most windows in AZ are not designed to allow sunlight. :)
Shut up.
Price aside, “Dumb” setups don’t have apps harvesting your data while you try to harvest dill!
Gear Heads? Where are the cars?
So could ya like grow like, ya know other stuff in these man?... Wink wink...
Check out the web sites. Tomatoes, lettuces, peppers are just the beginning. Herbs, flowers and other variety of greenery are available.
@@janetmoore1124 I wonder if Moe was thinking of something a little less legal...or I may be just reading badly between the lines...LOL
The seeds sprouting or not sprouting has absolutely nothing to do with how good the indoor garden is, and I'd buy the seeds I wanted, not what the company offers. You can bet the company isn't choosing the variety based on flavor.
There is no way I'd buy an indoor grow system with all those electronics. It's almost a forgone conclusion that they're going to fail in under 3 years, and good luck getting replacement parts.
Also, when constant water exposure is involved, plastic is better than any metal except stainless steel (and even then only if it's high quality stainless).
but can you grow devil's lettuce
Your aero growth doesn’t look good at all. Perhaps bad starter pods
Save yourself $200 and place your herbs by a window.
Not everyone has a window that would provide sufficient light. I don't.
@@janetmoore1124 What would you consider insufficient light? You don't really need direct sunlight for herbs.
@@colorcodetrader4032 Ah, but I don't want just herbs. I have a few house plants that I have managed to keep going due to luck and a bit of experimentation. Not all plants are happy with whatever light falls on them.
@@janetmoore1124 Well that goes well beyond the scope of this video. I wouldn't use this on fruiting/blooming plants. I've purchased much better LED grow lights for way less. Take a page from indoor cannabis growers. They know their stuff. lol...
I can't even begin to address how ridiculous this all is. How far have we fallen as a society that we can't grow some herbs without a $200 smartphone-enabled growing machine that does all the "work"?
Com'n people. Buy some dirt, a few cheap pots, and some seeds. Add water when soil is dry. Done and done. It's really not that difficult.
hell, peat pellet, a cheapo lamp, heating mats and a good bulb and then move them to even cheapo cloth pots with potting soil and manure.
Peat pellets are like $10 for 50
lamp is $15
bulb are $7 for a pack of 5
heat mat is $12
potting mix $6
black kow manure $5
cloth pots are $17 for 12 3-gallon
all together it's $72
Tack on another 15 or 30 for one or two more lamps and you've got everything needed for a garden and most of the stuff is optional for helping seedlings germinate, you can nix the mat, and peat pellets if you just want to use straight potting mix so you save 25 dollars after that.
Messing with dirt in a kitchen area, especially a small kitchen area with little sunlight - well try it some time.
@@JK-ff6zc Dirt is good for you. We have immune systems for a reason. And who says you have to grow them in the kitchen. Put them wherever you have sunlight.
@@CaptainFabulous84Dirt is not necessarily good for you - especially if it has to be purchased from a garden shop and comes from who knows where. AZ homes are designed to not have much sunlight even in the colder country. Heating is natural gas and/or wood versus $$electricity for A/C. So in a comparatively dark house the extra but low-power lighting is welcome. Ditto the extra humidity in an arid land. Circumstances vary for people.
@@CaptainFabulous84I know folks in LA and San Fran don't seem to mind dirt but the illness and death rate is not good there currently. In any case I would have to have 42 pots for my current crop of herbs, lettuces, and tomatoes, cucumbers, fennel, eggplant and peas .
what the hell is harder to manage on the aerogarden vs the others??? you just feed it every 2 weeks and top up the water every once in a while. The other plants got starved for light because you didn't prune it well
My, I'm pushing the back button so much, to bypass the commercials I'm missing this site, with the Ads they are trying to show on each video. So Sad. they are doing this. Had enough of the solar panel.
Though I do know which products to not to check out, since they are so pushy. Just like a telemarketer calling your cell phone.
The winner is so wasteful! Plastic that can't be truely recycled, instructions that are only available with an unrecyclable cellphone, soil and fertilizer that we know nothing about in terms of soil health. This is a half-baked (pun intended) test with no conscience about the world and it's affect on the world. There are fairly easy ways to grow indoor (if need be) herbs and lettuce grown indoors doesn't have any taste (readily available hydroponic bibb lettuce anyone?)
Over all this leaves me heaving.
Why can't the plastic be truly recycled?
you can just fill up a pot with soil, plant a seed, and water it.$200 for these things? If you like burning $ go ahead....
Younger generations are gonna starve... especially after their phones die...
That one lady sounds like she's not going to be happy until everything's robotic and no human involved whatsoever
She always says
"I had to do this"
I had to do that ((grumph))
Like oh my God I can't believe I had to look at this thing then I had to touch it cut off the clippings
Where are the robots
OMG, why was I born before there were robots
Who's fault is this
Just stick to cooking, PLEASE.