Is Dream's 6 Block Jump Possible?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2021
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I personally love how Dream ended his video with a bit of a cliffhanger, saying that if a player gains just a little more distance with each consecutive jump, a player's jump distance could theoretically go on indefinitely.
It IS true. But it would take *if i remember* 60 THOUSAND jumps just to get enough speed to do a 6 block jump.
@@computer5595 False, due to java's integer limit and plain physics proves that infact, you can not gain enough momentum to even be close.
@@computer5595 You talk about gaining speed but the original comment is about gainning distance tho
@@computer5595 momentum has a limit
@@VinnyGate Then the video i watched about this shit is just a fucking modded TAS bot thats been jumping for 60 thousand blocks or just coded to gain the speed for a 6 block jump. Well, fuck me.
I miss when dream discussed things about Minecraft instead of just screaming and saying "oh George"
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Like the pew die pie seed sires
dream: no ice, no headhitters, just straight up running and jumping
him: well lets just ignore that part
Yes
He never said “no headhitters”
He did that at the start, and as we all saw, he got nowhere near 6 blocks. So he started testing with other methods.
@@shaydenprime275 Yeah of course he got nowhere near because he wasn't using elevation momentum. You can get your jump back faster if each consecutive block is higher up. Without that, you can't even do a 5 block jump.
@@shadowyzephyr Surprisingly few people seem to know about this. I remember a video from a while back in which someone perfected a precise setup to make a 5 block jump by repeatedly jumping up a block then using I think snow layers to get the right height at the end.
Me : tries to sleep peacefully
Mosquito: 1:27
this is one of the rare times a youtube comment actually makes me laugh out loud
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And this kids, is why you should stay is school, so you can mythbust videogames.
No joke though that was impressive Chief!
Stay is school....
Looks like someone did not stay in school
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@@coolstickmanpoop9766 did not…. looks like someone didn’t know an apostrophe.
@@alexobuild6026 It is correct though. Also 'did not', looks like someone does not know how to use capital letters.
@@coolstickmanpoop9766 You didn’t either
All of the math has been done already, proving that the maximum jump distance with trapdoor headhitter momentum is 5.375 blocks.
For more information, look up "Movement, Misconceptions, and the 6 Block Jump" by Cynimal
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1:59 “with no cheats”
an old comment, but by cheats he means 'doing something that is impossible for your character to do normally'. The command block and auto clicker simulate the perfect run. It is possible to get perfectly in the center and jump at the perfect moment both by skill and by luck, no modifying of the character's ability. This simply takes his own personal skill out of the equation and tests whether the possibility exists.
Hi, I solved the problem:
Alternatively, you could use Steve's jump time to consider how long you would need to be in the air: 0.6s (some guy on hypixel: jumping 500 times and dividing total time by 500) and divide 5.47m by this to get ~9ms-¹. Steve's sprint velocity is almost half of this coming in at 5.6ms-¹ (src:minecraft fandom), and as a result he would not be able to make the 6 block jump.
We can reverse this calculation and find the longest possible jumping distance:
velocity × time = max jump dist.
5.6ms-¹ × 0.6s = 3.36m
A 4 block gap would be 3.47m, as assumed with the logic in your video (gap is always 0.53m less than number of blocks), which is more than the max jump distance, therefore these calculations say that you physically cannot jump even a 4 block gap without some kind of boost while in mid-air. There could, though, be this amount of variance in the variables:
-true distance ±0.005m
-jump time ±0.05s
-sprint velocity ±0.05ms-¹
but this would not affect the conclusion that you cannot jump 6 blocks as you still can't make 4 blocks even with the min distance and max velocity and time.
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That Chief Guy: No cheats.
Literally 2 minutes later.
"So i installed an autoclicker"
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Doesnt modifie the game itself technically its possible
@@pajatime2403 bro it was a joke
It is still cheating
@@pajatime2403whooooooosh
Technically it’s not cheating it’s called using your head
Longest is 20 block jump with speed ice a cactus and some honey
Yeah
Thanks
No, ruclips.net/video/dTH2oEqgMvw/видео.html
And jump boost and slow falling
Oh well if options are allowed add jump boost
Im super late to this but what if you used 45 strafes? It's where one tick you position your camera 45 degrees horizontally, and the next tick back to zero. This way, you get increased momentum each jump.
Still will not add enough distance, a single 45 gives +0.02211 blocks of distance but multiple still won't be enough, probably not much more than +0.033
I see, do you think the jump is possible?@@SuperN57
@@bloosixjr7505 It's never been possible, max distance with trapdoor headhitters is 5.375 blocks and that's been answered and proven with math a while back, cynimal has a great video on it
Its incredible to me the amount of time, sweat and knowledge that has gone into Minecraft from the community.
It really is an amazing game, even just looking at the people that play it.
0:46 - The edge of the block doesn't end at .000, it ends at .700/.300.
0:53 - It's a 5.4 block jump (.300 from starting block + .300 on landing block).
1:55 - You landed at X: .109 (check 1 tick before landing Y: .12130), you could have moved .191 more to the front (to .300).
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This video is a mathematical breakdown of Dream’s 6 block gap jump.
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i mean you aint wrong i guess
@@sampletexto2113 ye
thanks g i didn't know, i can't read the title nor watch the video
It actually isn't
"sir can you use your brain to cure cancer?"
"nah"
"why not?"
"CAUSE TRYING TO DO 6 BLOCKS JUMP IS MORE FUN"
I'm enrolled in AP Physics right now and I found this video super interesting as an application to what we're learning. Very enjoyable! I personally would love to see the spreadsheet you used.
You ever get that spreadsheet?
@@NooniiToons Sadly no
spreadsheet wouldve been unhelpful anyways this guy tried using kinematics in java minecraft 💀@@satireincarnate16
theres been videos about this before, and to many people with a decent amount of knowledge on parkour, it should be known that after about 8 jumps you cant build up any more momentum thus you cant jump 6 blocks
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@@Parkourist i think thats with speed and/or leaping potions or whatever theyre called
See uberleetzaur video on 18 blocks jump. Its need ices, headhitters, high ping, cactus, and potions
ruclips.net/video/lrmcMaomnEc/видео.html
@@Parkourist i just realised i made a mistake making this comment lol, i meant that after 8 jumps you cant build up any more momentum, thus you cant jump any further
@@Julius-Ver Isn't it that the amount of the increase of the momentum comes to a near grinding halt so that it's too low for minecraft to calculate it... and if minecraft had used double floats for momentum and speed calculations in the first place you'd eventually be able to jump any distance...
A lot of it depends on environmental conditions and which rules you allow.
A straight, horizontal, solid stone to solid stone jump, at default sprinting speed (no special effects) will indeed never reach 6 blocks.
If you allow trapdoors, you should allow ice. If you allow ice, you might as well allow cactus blocks. If you allow a cactus to increase your distance, you might as well allow honey-block slides, redstone-activated launchers, TNT-cannons, enderpearl stasis chambers, entity cramming accelerators, etc...
you preaachin! trrrrueee as helllll!!!
Those rapidly stop being about jumping, and start being random parkour shit, don't try that slippery slope nonsense
You are a god at escalating things
...which means, theoretically, If I were at the lowest y level on one corner of the world and my friend with a stasis chamber was at the highest y level at the other corner of the world, it's technically possible to jump 84852813.7423 blocks in vanilla Minecraft
I feel like I’m learning more from this guy than any math teacher I’ve ever had.
bro its not math its physics and have part of math cal
untrue.
u clearly have a degree in waffling@@hexonjames6209
And the trapdoor one works if you remove the blocks that is near the 6 block jump because without it you keep losing your constant momentum and without it you can keep your constant speed by your constant momentum.
one thing that I didn't see in the video is the thing that if you look 45 degrees off and hold W+A or W+D instead of running straight, you can actually go a bit faster
(this even makes running across something like a one wide bridge with every other block missing possible)
Sprint jumping is faster than walking diagonally
@@philippplayz combine them
@@Pix_xel How are you supposed to sprint jump diagonally when you cannot sprint diagonally?
@@philippplayz umm... wdym not being able to sprint diagonally??
@@Pix_xel Oh, lol
When dream made that video, I made plenty of calculations. I thought a 17 block jump was possible but I never took into account the fact that you're only jumping 4 blocks! It just never passed me, it's only possible to have a five block jump.
Geometwy dash
Only Extreme demon’s can do a 17 block jump
where tf did you get 17 from
@@itsclawfee6094 Calm down Jamal
@@prollynotzincx me who can't play it because it crashes on ios 15
4:24 = Conclusion
Dang! I can’t believe this was my first video watched from chief! I watch his videos weekly now, and one day binged all his videos!
2:20 dream said "just sprinting and holding space" in his video
he also used the roof technique, if you even watched the entirety of it
I didn’t know that minecraft became a physics lesson
“No cheats, just run and jump”
“so i installed an auto clicker”
1:22 "Perfectly straight")))
0:34
These frames are called ‘Coyote Frames’ (after the villain from the cartoon ‘Road Runner’ who doesn’t fall until he looks down, I assume) and are often implemented into platformers to make the gameplay feel more fair. I had no idea they were in Minecraft, though!
actually i think it's the hit box of the player that also contributes to it. Since f3 position is based on the center of your feet but collision is not based on the center so there is a bit of offset to it
It's used ESPECIALLY in first person games, since the perspective does not allow you to judge exactly where you are on a ledge very well.
Since there has been a lot of comments coming in regarding this, I believe I will address some (possible) confusion that I am seeing.
1. A 5 block jump IS possible like dream explained in his video. I even did one in this video as well
2. He theorized during his video that 6 blocks might be possible, and that is the jump distance I am trying to validate if it’s possible.
3. I am restricting myself to all the same restrictions that dream had back in his video. This means no slime, ice, potions or damage boosting (Ex: cactus), or jump blipping is not allowed.
4. As for the auto clicker I don’t see it as cheating as the frequency of hits can be simulated by a human, however I didn’t want to put unnecessary stress on my keyboard if I could prevent it.
Hopefully this clears some stuff up, and at the end of the day, who knows, a 6 block jump just like dream theorized might be possible! And I look forward to a video that proves this theory! I had a blast making the video and I hope you found it enjoyable 😄
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"who knows, a 6 block jump just like dream theorized might be possible!"
I know, its not. There is no mystery to be solved. If you check the minecraft code instead of doing your pseudo "math" you will find that every tick your speed is multiplied by some constants, a .91 drag multiplier, then adds some acceleration by using other constants. Due to the .91 drag multiplier your speed will quickly reach a limit.
0:10 If you define "no cheats" as "allowed to use ceiling and ice", Yea it's possible with 1 block of ice+trapdoor momentum, but if you don't want to use ice then it's impossible. Farthest jump you can do with trapdoor ceiling no ice is 5.375 blocks (it's farther than that, but it's impossible to build that distance with blocks, so the closest is 5.375).
0:30 What you're describing is "coyote time", but for minecraft it's a bit more complexe than that.
It wasn't added on purpose, it's because the player's movement updates on the Y axis before the X and Z, resulting that you're off the ground for an extra gametick (minecraft updates every 0.05s, aka every gametick). Now it might sound useful to use that little fact to jump farther, but running on the ground loses way too much speed compared to instantly jumping again, and for those kind of distance jumps, it was calculated that it is better to jump off straight away than to run a bit before jumping off, since that extra distance isn't worth for the speed lost (however this isn't always the case, some jumps are better to run for a bit, but for this jump it is ~.375 better to jumpoff instantly instead of running a bit).
0:50 The gap is correctly smaller than 6 blocks, but not for the right reasons. First off, lets imagine that running an extra gametick IS better than jumping instantly after. Running on the ground more than 1 game tick is totally useless, since it's a LOT of wasted speed for no reason, so your test is wrong (also the edge is .3, not .0). Secondly, the speed at which you run varies from jump to jump. It's not always x or y value, if I stand at the edge and sprint forward, it's .098. If I get a lot of momentum before, it might be .3 or something similar. We usually don't take into account the distance that it gives into the distance of the jump, since it would always vary for the same exact jump. The actual distance is 5.4 blocks, because the players's hitbox is 0.6 long, so you have to jump a total of 5.4 blocks.
1:55 Your coordinates are .194 too far back
1:59 LITERALLY just hold space
2:40 Actual max speed of normal momentum is 7.1267m/s while with trapdoors it's 11.0275m/s
2:51 Speed is not constant, like you gain speed the more you jump. However the amount of speed that you gain slows down, so after ~6-7 jumps on flat momentum, your speed is *basically* a constant. (ignoring the fact that your speed changes 12 times mid jump)
3:30 Value is actually 4.775 blocks
3:52 What. Why?
4:00 From 8.11m/s to 13.93m/s, but then you slow down all the way to 6.72m/s because of drag ("friction")
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It's possible. Turn ur screen 45 degrees to the rigth/left, and hold D/A until you land on the block. And you only need to land half a block more. Cuz if you landed at 4.5, but still landed on the 5th block, then you don't need to increase it any further.
You should upload a video of this.
a 45 strafe on flat ground only provides 0.02211 blocks of distance, regardless of initial speed
This went from minecraft to physics really fast
You actually can jump 10 block by using the jump potion, speed potion and slow falling potion.....
You can jump 11 with a boat
That’s cheating
The question in dreams video is how far you can jump with nothing
@@demoku8949 Pretty sure I’m going to need a keyboard to jump
@@kingofallsteves4757 me on mobile: I am invulnerable to this statement
The longest possible distance a player can jump without effects is over 9 blocks, by sprint-jumping out of a 2-block-high ice corridor. The longest possible distance a player can jump with obtainable effects in survival is over 11 blocks.
Dream: just running and jumping, no head hits
Companies after pride month 1:22
Jump boost potion: I’m gonna ruin this man’s whole career
same with speed lol
Him: no cheats
Him: ima use a autoclicker and command block
“Remember kids go to school it will make you better at Minecraft” a quote from a legend
I love these kinds of videos, where math and science are used to mythbust video games. Keep it up!
"the farthest I can jump without cheats"
*installs autoclicker*
Technically some people are skilled enough to press as fast as an autoclicker, well not when it is at max power
I love how chief spent an entire video on this whilst someone has done this as a neo
? 5block neos aren't possible lol
I love how they’re approaching this like a physics problem
There is a mod that can allow it, it’s called tinkers’ construct
With the skyslime boots and the sling/slingshot
OP travel speed
the slimesling is just too good
way too op
there are much easier ways to do this than using mods that are less cheating 🤦♀
@@magica3526 the boring ways,
Mods make single player Minecraft good, I have 0 friends I can play with
@@epicgaming11195 lightning speed, occasionally it can fail, but it’s easy to start back up.
3:52 So using some simple maths equations
Me: That ain’t simple to me
Strafing is faster than straight walk
You can rotate to 45C° while jumping and it will increase distance that you travel by 2%
Using 45 strafes won't make a 6b jump
miss by 0.611
On Blue ice can do 5 pretty easily and consistently with the right running start. Add some convenient upward jumps and head hitters and I'm sure 6 or even 7 might be doable.
Can't use ice for this one! It's some type of challenge/problem, it has rules
2:18 if the flor is ice you’l Go even faster
Use blue ice and put another trapdoor in top but open making have more chance of getting some result. You can also put a piston with slime block that impulses while also using the trapdoor and blue ice could maybe do a 6 block jump.
You can get more distance if you use one block step-up momentum. If you space it out perfectly you can nail the 6 block jump
If this is the topic in my math class i would get straight A's
4:17
1 minecraft block = 1 meter
So your traveling more than 5 m/s
There is a thing called flight time in projectile motion which determines the amount of time u r in air, so velocity x time = displacement, so you need to either increase the flight time or increase the velocity
Math teacher: Math is important for your life.
Him: Yea totaly..FOR MINECRAFT
This dude is definitely the nerd of the class.
You can increase your velocity more if you jump up a staircase with a shallow gradient because you lose velocity after your head hits a trapdoor as you descend to the ground. You can avoid the loss of velocity due to falling if you continuously go up. I think thats what people mean when they say that you can gain momentum infinitely.
A 6 block jump is possible, but you would need a lot of momentum forwards, and upwards as well. As is seen in the 5 block jump.
Facts
@LEMON KAI what way
False, due to java's integer limit and plain physics proves that infact, you can not gain infinite momentum.
@@VinnyGate I didnt say infinite
Its could happen but
Its just a theory a game theory XD
That chief guy : BUSTED
Ice : am i a joke for you ?!
The momentum loss is because the speed from the jumping comes from the fact that on the upwards part of the jump, it has the speed, but on the descent, the horizontal speed is slower. So remove the very last trapdoor, but none of the other ones.
This has actually been done before there is a map you can play that arranges you so perfectly that you can even make a 6 1/2 block.
Link?
i think you are talking about this? ruclips.net/video/Qw5dyML-KJE/видео.html which was 5 block jump. or this which is actually 6 blocks but ruclips.net/video/as041WOiSUU/видео.html it uses macro and uses glitch which was patched in 1.14+
What about the macro/TAS only(or maybe possible without any tool) 45degree jump glitch
Basically jump and turn 45 degrees in a tick (1/20 seconds)
first of all, thats cheating, but no. unless u use fast math in optifine, but still kinda cheating
@@austinhua4911 no not really; the discussion is on the theoretical possibility of a 6b jump, and all things that a TAS can do, are also technically doably by a human being, given enough attempts.
so no, TASing to prove the possibility of a jump is not cheating.
The 45 strafe isn't cheating, and no it doesn't give you enough speed to make a 6b jump (longest flat jump being the 5.375b, which is a 5block jump to a fence)
Nope, a single 45 strafe only provides 0.02211 extra blocks of distance on a flat jump
so this is what teachers mean when maths is important in the future
Dream: "A 6 block jump is technically possible"
me: *does double block extension*
In his video, Dream specifically said that headhitters weren't allowed
Ye
jsut do a shit ton of perfect 45 strafes on like a super long block
They're showing that even with something as simple as headhitters it ain't possible to reach 6 blocks..and you'd need headhitters to even make 5.
3:20 MANS TURNED INTO A ZOMBIE
this has turned to a physics class 😂 😂
i learned more about physics than i learned about minecraft 6 block jumping
You have forgotten 1 BIG part to helping you get to 6 blocks. As I learned from the 5 block jump, momentum is important. So you have to be jumping onto a block higher than the last one. Perhaps with enough momentum, you could get that 6 block jump. If it works, you’re welcome.
Adding a block higher than the path would be just cheating, besides, every block higher you go, add the blocks height to what you got from a previous jump, thats how far you can go if perfectly executed.
momentum has limit so its not possible
Using elevation momentum isn't enough for a six block jump, it's enough for 5 block only
@@theultimatetrashman887 how is that cheating
@@FriendlyHoodi simple physics, putting a block higher would be like adding a block to the path, making it a 5 block jump.
though, it would be less effective than making the jump shorter, cause minecraft falling physics, but still makes a big difference
Now that's makes sense , he used maths and physics in a perfect way !!
At 0:25 the the gap in between a 6 block jump is six blocks
Stay in school kids - it’ll make you better at Minecraft
- The Pig King
0:50 me: JUMP IS JUMP
Glad to see an Echo popping into my recommended
I love how this is one big math problem in such a simple game
That Chief Guy: without cheats
Also That Chief Guy: I used a command block and an auto clicker.
when a genius plays mincraft…
Me: it is dangerous
Dream: **says something outlandish**
That Chief Guy: **starts using physics and kinematics equations to see if Dream is correct**
0:54 Actually you can sneak and then walk towards the edge. The hitbox is the same on the other side too. Just running off is not accurate since the player accelerates downwards and starts with 0 velocity. So by the time the player is already technically falling and cannot jump anymore, the y level is still the same. Afaik the extra distance is 0.3 blocks (on both sides of course). Therefore a 6 block jump is actually 5.4 blocks.
Also a 6 block jump is definitely possible if you use ice on the floor when doing the trapdoor thingy since ice preserves more velocity. Maybe even a 7 block jump works that way. But i do not think i have ever done that.
Using ice and trapdoors will make it significantly easier, making a 10 block jump and further jumps possible.
This felt like a math class
your so underrated! great video!
Chief being awesome as always.
As technoblade said: stay in class it makes you better at Minecraft (I think that’s what he said)
Add ice blocks it makes you jump farther
Ice blocks are considered a gimmick
Maybe walking at a 45 degree angle? So W+A / W+D in Sprinting? I mean, it is already faster than just W Sprinting
If you add other conditions other than just jumping then the longest you vocal jump is like 18 blocks
I miss Dream's unsolved series :(
Minecraft when I was younger: “4 block jumps are really hard and if you can do one you’re so cool!!”
Minecraft now: “6 blocks easy”
This man is the DEFINITION of Comitted.
Hahaha I am learning about velocities and acceleration in physics right now.
Yasssss! #teamphysics!
@iGalactic Math is used a lot in physics, yes, so it's not uncommon to learn a little physics in math :)
1:16 i thought u go faster by tapping w and s/d in a certain angle
yeah I thought the 45 degree jump is the best too
This was the first video I watched of chief ever
0:45 the max you can get is .656 off the edge of the block
GUYS. DREAM 6 BLOCK !!!!!! :))) IS IT POSSIBLE ?? I NEED THE VIEWS. I NEED THE VIEWS FROM MILKING OFF DREAM !!!!!!!!!!! SO I HAVE TO PUT DREAM IN THE TITLE !!!!!!!!!!
Dream said that it could be possible to do a six-block jump without trapdoor jumping or potions
Exactly
DUDE IT JUST WENT UP A LIKE WHEN I WA SLOOKING
You can clear the 6 block jump with a boat.
@DerpyDuck146 Lol is this where all of the dream haters go to take out their anger. You know the minecraft code allows you to jump a little higher per jump meaning you can jump an infinite amount of blocks with an infinite amount of jumps as long as fall damage dose not stop you from jumping.
@DerpyDuck146 Ya dream messed up for not looking in his plugins folder to make sure that there wasn't a plugin that gave him higher drop rates. Amnesty I don't know how he missed that maybe it was the heat from his moderators breath.
This has given me the courage to face my maths test on Tuesday cause I will need it for minecraft. Danke chief ❤❤
When physics teacher looses his job and become gamer
Wouldn't the .530 apply to both sides of the gap? If you can run that far off, I would think you can land that far early.
Not quite, "coyote" time as its often called isn't based on the collision of the block, but rather is a grace period you are given after leaving the collision, after a couple moments you fall, even if standing still
However ledge collision extends about a third of a block out anyway(its weird stuff), so the coyote time only applies for about .230 distance
@@syrelian what do coyotes have to do with this?
@@refrigeratorrex4184 Its in reference to the antics of Wile E. Coyote, of Loony Toons fame, and his habit of ending up hanging in the air after walking off a cliff, as if ground was still beneath him, only for gravity to resume function the moment he notices his predicament
That's not really a good way to test it, and not all of it is correct such as the starting things like saying the gap is actually 5.47 blocks (it's 5.4 blocks, but for a different reason)
Though there is proof by Cynimal that a 6 block jump is not possible, and at most 5.375 blocks is possible
ruclips.net/video/qUFzMkDYsXc/видео.html
nice i was looking for someone who knew that video
That Chief Guy: No cheats. Me: *S P E E D P O T I O N S*
Munbo jumbo when does "simple redstone"