Bro I just wanted to thank you. That low shelf tip just saved my life. Thats what was missing. I’ve been struggling to get a clean vocal sound in my booth for 2 years. I’ve tried literally everything with treatment & mixing to remove the mud with no luck. Low freq bell curve cuts did not solve my issues, but applying the low shelf just cleaned everything up & got me the satisfaction I’ve been searching for. Truly apprec you!🙏🏼🙏🏼
That cut at the honk frequency is what I've been looking for to get vox to sit in the mix rather than on top of it. I think of it as transparent vocals, hearing the music through them while being clear and understandable.
Hola, está claro que el video es solo sobre como ecualizar voces en cuatro pasos, pero el audio final que se escucha pasa por alto unos cuantos procesos más, además de las armonías con otras voces, la canción suena genial pero para eso hay que hacer algunos pasos más que cuatro!
LOVE this, man. I've been using your eq curves in my template for months now, but I'm so stoked to be able to see the process that goes into creating them. This will be SUPER helpful to me in the future!
you and hardcore music studio are my go to, to follow the objective and effectiveness way to think and all videos are amazing ALL. both of you, but i have a question: do you think this approach about old plugins and some medium gear, can be like out of date? and look, again you guys are my go to, cause match with the way I love to sound and my 2000s favorite bands sounds, but I think in some point the new things also deserve some eyes. like Bogren stuff, Neural Stuff and other more modern stuff, AGAIN I don't care about plugins and marketing thing but, I would love to have this question answered in your videos of Q&A(IDK if you get my point) cause there are NOBODY that i learn more than you and more other 2 channels. Anyway, killer video as always!!!
As far as sound is concerned, not really. That said the SM7b is a studio classic and clients often feel more "legit" when singing into one. Also, the thick windscreen is pretty handy.
@@thestarwarscraft4005 every voice is different but i usually start at 3k untill they "come forward" and then widen the band till it sounds good. It may need to be 4k depending on the vocals, but thats so much quicker and easier then tryin to cut out all the different boxy freq. And sometimes add a small boost to the higher band somewhere around 9k to make it sound prettier or sparkle
You can go the route you suggested, but you wont have the sound that this has. The other cuts are doing extra work that make the vocals translate better in different listening systems.
Who the f*ck eq's a vocal after putting a delay on it? And also a low cut of 150 hz on every vocal? No! Every vocal is different! And a low shelf of 7db up to 500? If u cut so much u will have a thin vocal, try it, u will see. Overall on a woman' s vocal
He didn’t say on every vocal. He said on that vocal. And it sounded full and clear in the video with the track example he used. Obviously if your source is brighter you shouldn’t do exactly what’s in this video.
@@queenpurple8433 yes, because there was a big delay and maybe also a small amount of plate reverb on it, and that clouds the sound heavily! Also there where many other effects on it. Thats cheating! When he sweeps arround on the low mids, there is no difference! Try to listen! Who does the eqing after putting time related effects on the source? No one. U do the eq on the dry cutted vocal normally, than usually u compress it, and to make it sit fine in in the mix, u put this effects on it "It sounded full and clean in the video" Try that at home, cut 150 on a womans vocal and put a low shelf up to 500hz on it. Cut 7dp on this shelf and after u tell me here how it sounded.
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Bro I just wanted to thank you. That low shelf tip just saved my life. Thats what was missing. I’ve been struggling to get a clean vocal sound in my booth for 2 years. I’ve tried literally everything with treatment & mixing to remove the mud with no luck. Low freq bell curve cuts did not solve my issues, but applying the low shelf just cleaned everything up & got me the satisfaction I’ve been searching for. Truly apprec you!🙏🏼🙏🏼
Another tip of the hat to the guy who's improved my mixing and saved me money more than anyone else. Thanks Bobby!
That cut at the honk frequency is what I've been looking for to get vox to sit in the mix rather than on top of it. I think of it as transparent vocals, hearing the music through them while being clear and understandable.
Hola, está claro que el video es solo sobre como ecualizar voces en cuatro pasos, pero el audio final que se escucha pasa por alto unos cuantos procesos más, además de las armonías con otras voces, la canción suena genial pero para eso hay que hacer algunos pasos más que cuatro!
Straight to the point! Great advice!
LOVE this, man. I've been using your eq curves in my template for months now, but I'm so stoked to be able to see the process that goes into creating them. This will be SUPER helpful to me in the future!
you and hardcore music studio are my go to, to follow the objective and effectiveness way to think and all videos are amazing ALL. both of you, but i have a question:
do you think this approach about old plugins and some medium gear, can be like out of date? and look, again you guys are my go to, cause match with the way I love to sound and my 2000s favorite bands sounds, but I think in some point the new things also deserve some eyes. like Bogren stuff, Neural Stuff and other more modern stuff, AGAIN I don't care about plugins and marketing thing but, I would love to have this question answered in your videos of Q&A(IDK if you get my point) cause there are NOBODY that i learn more than you and more other 2 channels. Anyway, killer video as always!!!
Thank you for the vid, very helpful for a newbie to vocal recordings :)
Thanks for the video. I've been employing some of these techniques you teach and have been getting better results. Appreciate it!
Thanks for the tip
Hey Bobby, how do we submit mixes to you for the Q&A portion? Or in general.. :)
Is it worth an upgrade from the SM57 to the SM7B if all the low frequencies get cut anyway?
As far as sound is concerned, not really. That said the SM7b is a studio classic and clients often feel more "legit" when singing into one. Also, the thick windscreen is pretty handy.
@FrightboxRecording Thanks man! Appreciate the response
great video. do you ever use de-esser plug-ins on vox?
Yes, all the time at the end of my vocal chain.
Cool
Isnt it easier to just boost at 3k and widen the band till it sounds right? Instead of cuting all those other freqs
3k can get very harsh on vocals
@@thestarwarscraft4005 any freq can get harsh on vocals
@@thestarwarscraft4005 every voice is different but i usually start at 3k untill they "come forward" and then widen the band till it sounds good. It may need to be 4k depending on the vocals, but thats so much quicker and easier then tryin to cut out all the different boxy freq. And sometimes add a small boost to the higher band somewhere around 9k to make it sound prettier or sparkle
Don't know if that 700hz reduction was needed
You can go the route you suggested, but you wont have the sound that this has. The other cuts are doing extra work that make the vocals translate better in different listening systems.
If you have multiple vocals do you do each one or can you just eq the vocal bus?
Yes
You could, tho you can see Bobby has his eq before compression, so doing it on the bus won't be exactly the same.
Exactly! @@thestarwarscraft4005
Ok. Thanks guys!
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I’m still having trouble having vocals sit in the mix.
Try a higher compression ratio. Sometimes 2:1 is too low. Also automate the vocals volume. It will never sit perfect without automation.
So basically a Sonimus Barnley 73 plugin is good enough.
Who the f*ck eq's a vocal after putting a delay on it? And also a low cut of 150 hz on every vocal? No! Every vocal is different! And a low shelf of 7db up to 500? If u cut so much u will have a thin vocal, try it, u will see. Overall on a woman' s vocal
He didn’t say on every vocal. He said on that vocal. And it sounded full and clear in the video with the track example he used. Obviously if your source is brighter you shouldn’t do exactly what’s in this video.
@@queenpurple8433 yes, because there was a big delay and maybe also a small amount of plate reverb on it, and that clouds the sound heavily! Also there where many other effects on it. Thats cheating! When he sweeps arround on the low mids, there is no difference! Try to listen! Who does the eqing after putting time related effects on the source? No one. U do the eq on the dry cutted vocal normally, than usually u compress it, and to make it sit fine in in the mix, u put this effects on it
"It sounded full and clean in the video" Try that at home, cut 150 on a womans vocal and put a low shelf up to 500hz on it. Cut 7dp on this shelf and after u tell me here how it sounded.