Record an ENTIRE song with a SHURE SM58?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Can I record an entire song with just a Shure SM58 and a Focusrite Scarlett Solo? No problem! Using just Logic X and a simple setup I wrote and recorded an indie rock song (that I'm very proud of) in my home studio. I beat the SM58 Challenge!
#shuresm58 #homerecording #vlogmusic
Here's a link to just the song, "Can't Relate": ruclips.net/video/cqXMctjfq6A/видео.html
This video is a work of art, and such an important lesson everyone needs to learn. Nobody cares about what gear made a song - they just care that the song is something they want to listen to. I'm guilty of owning 800 dollar microphones, but recorded my first two albums - my best work - with a 50 dollar mic... And it sounds great. Thanks for the video. The song is really good too!
I love fancy mics too, and would love to own one in the future (something with a tube that doesn't bankrupt me!). I've just noticed too many folks (myself included) going down the route of thinking a new microphone (or any piece of gear) is going to fix their music, when they don't have a strong song to record. Thanks for the kind words Todd, it means a lot!
A Boss BR800 is the easiest and funnest way to make tons of songs, I've used several Boss portistudios, I highly recommend them, they come with built in effects (guitar/bass/vox/other like record player/lol Fi, bullhorn or pbone) and drums that you can edit also which other portistudios don't have except one or two Tascams. You also have multiple "virtual tracks" under each track so it's way more than simply 8 tracks per song with bouncing. You can also get them smaller or larger than the BR800 and they all have pretty much the same stuff. It is really good to learn songwriting, throw down ideas (built in microphone, bass simulator and acoustic simulator) or make entire songs. It is HIGHLY underrated.
It can get VERY fun.
@@whatabouttheearth Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for a video idea. I have a Tascam Cassette machine I really like for 4 tracking and a Zoom H5 which is a bit too confusing to use as a 4 track. Boss sounds cool.
Same! I recorded a song on earbuds that came with my Samsung phone, a laptop internal mic and that was it. It was called Bittersweet Unsatisfying.
It was some of my best work in mixing and mastering ever too for those days.
Amen
Best advice I ever got was from a former instructor who was a wizard at stadium sized live sound. He said, "it is not the gear that matters but who is behind the gear that matters most."
Wholeheartedly agree.
And some money lol
What a stupid advice!
And all sounds of song proving it.
All sounds are the same!
came for the production, stayed for the music. Excellent.
Thank you!
Great song and great advice. I'm old and old school. I'm just starting out getting into home recording and have been needing to streamline my approach since I don't have an unlimited cash flow to put into a studio. So your advice is well taken about approaching a project rather than getting hung up on the amount of equipment we have.
I love the song you created. I'm not critiquing it in anyway, but when I was listening to it, I felt a few places could have been accented with some simple background vocals. But no matter what, the piece feels complete and inspiring at the same time. It's got a haunting melody that makes a fellow musician want to sit in and jam along. Once again thanks for the perspective and information. Best wishes on your continued music.
Glad to hear you're getting into recording, its a really fun and fulfilling hobby. Just remember to make music! I think you're right about a backing vocal; in this instance nothing came to me. When I do something like that I usually write counterpoint (ruclips.net/video/xjlclZDYKx4/видео.html) but I just didn't hear it this time. Thanks for listening!
Whenever I fell like changing my sm58 with a condenser...I always come back to this video for inspiration...❤
Thanks, that means a lot!
I’ve gotten to the point where I only use a 58 to record vocals in my home studio setup because condensers pick up EVERYTHING! Which is very undesirable in a room that isn’t soundproof or acoustically treated.
Yup! A dynamic is a great option in this situation.
I've been testing out this idea all my life except for a brief stint with an entry level condenser mic just to try it out. I understood the difference, the condenser mic was nice in some ways but I went back to the SM58. I love that sound and I know how to use it for every instrument, including guitar. It's so beautifully simple. Just use the space to dial in the sound you want.
I tend to like condensers with more delicate instruments but I’ve been having so much fun with this approach lately.
@@revevague6256 For sure a woman's voice, violin, and some horns are super nice with condenser microphones.
cool song, reminds me of Grandaddy a little bit (Pavement, too). Very inspiring video! As a proud SM58 owner I just might put it into work the same way you did :)
Thanks, I love both of those bands. Pump up the jams!
Yeah, definitely heard some Pavement in there.
This was so inspiring! I enjoyed this video a lot, and I appreciate the work you put into both the video and song production.
Thanks! That means a lot!
Thanks for this. YT algorithms amaze me every so often. For a few months now, I've been getting back to simplicity as multitracking plain burns me out. We're talking a year of recovery after doing a CD project. How to get back the joy and make it simple. So I saw a Tascam DR-10X on clearance and bought one. Connected it to a dynamic mic, set it in the middle of the room and played one of my tunes. Brought it to the PC, trimmed it up, did a little EQ, compression and reverb with delay to promote it to stereo. Not bad at all. I've since picked up a fethead and fethead phantom, and an XVive P1 phantom power unit. Dozens of tests to find the best position and finally enjoying recording again. Of course just an acoustic guitar and vocal. What's most appreciated, is it forces me to work up a good take and not rely on multitracking to cut and paste a composite track from half a dozen takes. At 68, no dreams of albums or any of that - just recording my tunes for friends and my kids - to leave to them. Still have to figure out the post process - probably Har-Bal and Synthetic space after a few minutes in Reaper or Audacity. Thankfully, my friends are all retired old farts too - and enjoy the goofy stuff - warts and all ... and the kids remember me singing them to sleep at the side of their beds. Lets me get away with stuff I'd never have done at a paid gig. Nice to pass the age where there's no more need of pretense / perfection. And at my age, my favorite LPs in the early 60's were all mono. So why not? You got a nice sound on that recording - thanks for the affirmation and encouragement!
Thanks for the kind words; I'm happy to provide some encouragement! Making music can be so rewarding and it's really special to have a record of old performances with friends. There's something about recording yourself and DIY that's so empowering and exciting, glad to.hear you've still got the spark.
such a great documentation of this process and the song is so good!
Thank you so much!
So nice to see how limitations are enabling creativity!
Thanks!
So glad I got back to your channel!
I love this video so much, really shows what one can do with just limited means.
For me personally, I always find that I write most of my songs just on an acoustic guitar or even without any instrument, going on a bike trip or a nice walk. When producing I always want to fit the original idea best and emphasise what made me like it in the first place.
Oh and that micing technique for the drums is super cool! I don't play drums and thus don't have a drum kit, but micing one always seemed so complicated and expensive, with all those microphones. And sure, it doesn't sound as good as professionally miced, but it's totally listenable and supports the song so well!
Thanks! Drums can be a challenge, this Moses Schneider technique is really cool to simplify it. But yes, you're correct, it's most definitely not a "Hi-Fi" sound.
that song was so incredibly good. put that shit on itunes/spotify!!!
Thanks! It's going to be released on an EP hopefully in a few months. Working on another song/video and then I'll have the whole bunch properly mastered.
Great songs yield great recordings!
Bingo!
Great song and the sound is really good
Thanks!
I love this! What a tune and vibe.
Thanks!
This fits perfectly with the kind of music I like. I really admire the challenge taken and the results speak for themselves.
Thanks so much!
Brilliant lesson, and lovely song too. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Reve. your commitment to this was awesome! love it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video . The shure sm58 is such a legend .. I love my sm58 as well . I like the warm, natural, clear and full sound that is has.
Other mics are to sharp and bright .
Thanks, it really is!
The 2/4 time signature bars at the end of the hook are absolutely awesome. Noice!
Thanks!
The sound of the vocal is awesome !
Thanks! Just EQ, compression and de-esser!
@@revevague6256 i got a sm58 too ! I like it !!!
Nice track by the way ! That your composition ?!
@@Ve2ret thanks. Yes, this is my song called “Can’t Relate”.
🙏👍👍🤘🤘Thanks for sharing your great wisdom and knowledge🤩😍🤘🤘 from a bedroom rocker🙏
My pleasure!!
This is amazing and inspiring!
Thank you so much!
this is cool showing that there's ways to work with just only a sm58. there's a billion ways to make a track therefore an album keep recording freinds
Thanks
Thanks. Cool advice for someone thinking about starting to record my rudimentary playing and daunted by the gear thinking.
Happy to help!
Nice job. Can't go wrong with a 58. Sounds great. Thanks for this.
Thanks so much!
LOVE IT❤❤
Thanks!
I've gotta say the drums sounded excellent. The whole song did, but the drums stood out for me 👍
Thanks! Panning the delay helped me get that sound.
You're incredibly talented!
Thank you so much!
been living this challenge
Kudos!
Wow what a voice man, You sound like Bono! Beautiful voice, keep up!
Wow, thank you!
Freaking awesome !! and incredibly inspiring Keep it up
Thanks so much!!
Nice video Rêve! Very cool. Totally agree with you, it easy to think we need all this gear and a complex set up, but I've found that just a simple set up works just fine. I've recorded almost a whole album using only my AT2035.
Thanks so much. I like your channel by the way, great stuff!
This is neat! Absolutely true, skill and experience makes up for gear. Imagine what both at power level 9000 could do!
On a side note for those struggling with plosives, somethimg that really helped me cut down on this was slightly turning my neck away from the diaphragm of the mic, when using plosives. Another amazing tip that helped me is to be prepared to take yourself away from the mic a bit when using loud psrts of vocals, or record those separtely, with a lower input volume.
Hope this all helps! -Lou Blacksail ~ Lyres of Ur ~
Thanks!
What a great video! Thanks for posting.
Thanks!
Great Job! the song is awesome and sounds great ...very inspiring
Thanks so much!
So good! Really nicely done and great finished song!
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Great tutorial and awesome song!!
Thanks!
Cool stuff man. Just subscribed. Looking forward to watching more!
Thanks!
Well done! Great video and the song turned out great
Thanks so much! Was a really fun project!
This is killer, nice work!
Thank you!
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
Thanks so much!
Realy cool song! I like the time changes and howall instruments comes together with vocal.
Thanks!
Well done my friend, That's a really great tune too. And I like like the fact that your goal was to keep it simple but good to use not the suer top of the line equiptment but good time tested stuff like the SM58. I have to say I get caught up in want ing the best stuff when I really don't have any recording experience. So this time I desided to make an at home studio I have been buying small but good stuff for a fraction of the money I had into my last studio and I just need to do the tutorials on my DAW and its not aiming lower the music I love the most is Relativly not complicated music. Anyway, I noticed several years ago one day watching that John Lennon Concert from the early 70"s I said wait John is singing through a Sure SM-58 live and it sounds as good as the Condencer micshe used in the studio. I think we have to keep things in perspective. Cool song again. I'm going to go to it myself today you moved me to action.
This makes me so happy! Glad you're going to go for it! The home studio equipment these days is all pretty fantastic; as long as it works well with your computer I think you can't go wrong with any name brand equipment. DAWs are incredibly powerful, I started on Garageband and upgraded to Logic about 11 years ago (actually helped me learn how to use Final Cut Pro when I started doing video to); but again they all do the same thing and you can't go wrong with any program these days. The SM58 can sound terrific, but it definitely needs EQ. Deep in my heart I still want a tube condenser but that will be in the distant future. Thanks!
I love the song
Thanks!
i genuinely want to add this song to my playlist
Thanks! It will eventually be on Spotify when I release my next EP. For now you can listen to it here: ruclips.net/video/cqXMctjfq6A/видео.htmlsi=PmK7xHt_KDphkgls
Sometimes I record with whatever I have accessible late at night, and I alwas like that take/takes the best as it has that emotion.
I liked the song!
Thanks!
Dang, man. I just finished getting a sad excuse for a "studio" set up and spending hours giving myself a splitting headache trying to learn the new skill of recording.
This is just what I needed. I, too, can get laser focused on certain things and miss the forest for the trees. I must say this was a great reminder to focus on the song as a whole and not get bogged down with minor details that suck the creativity out of the room.
Inspiration is a perfect word for what you have provided with this video. Great work on a beautiful melody.
Thanks so much! Don't beat yourself up too much, everyone struggles with this.
This is exactly how I have felt too. That last thing he said really hit home. It actually may be a game changer for how I’ve been approaching writing/recording music psychologically. I’ve been too bogged down in the details instead of just creating music.
came out sick!
Thanks!
I needed this video.. thank you sm
Thanks!
Man you deserve a million subs🙏
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sounds awesome! Gives me some nice death cab for cutie vibes. Goes to show we really shouldn't be wasting our money on super expensive audio gear
Thanks so much!
Thanks for this.
Welcome!
Songs sounds much better then the video looks! Really like the lofi drums. Nice technique. Thx. Just got 2 beta 58as for the price of a used sm58. Lets see…
Thanks!
You should have done it with the Lauten Audio LS-208, one mic for everything.
Thanks, I’ll take a look at that mic when I get a chance.
Love this dude!
Thanks!
Great song ✌️❤️
Thanks so much!
Hey Mate, Yamaha has the AG-06 USB mixer for just over $200. 2 mic channels with good preamps and 4 line level inputs. Great monitoring for playback recording where you can easily adjust both the playback and headphone mix (even the RodeCaster can't do this). I've used one for many years. It also has effects like reverb etc and compression, and you can even have the reverb on while singing etc and not have it record. There's also a loopback feature whereby you can record anything playing on your PC. A magic little mixer.
Thanks. Looks like a great piece. The studio here is built around a Scarlett 18i20 3rd generation, which works great for all my purposes (sometimes have to do a full band, and it expands out to 16 channels). This song was all about limitations, I wanted to use a really cheap interface and a ubiquitous microphone to show younger musicians what they can do with what they already have. I've never been into recording with reverb and compression (it changes the way I perform). Do you use it for music or podcasting?
@@revevague6256 I do some comedy songs (used to get air play), so if I was doing say, an Elvis parody, I'd turn on the echo and select 'dry'. This would get me in the echo mood but it doesn't go on the track. I then add echo or reverb in post-- or not.
@@frednurk5158 Using effects to inspire the performance, perfect!
Great job!
Thanks!
that was great i really enjoyed that great song
Thanks so much!
Sir, if I use the original Shure SM 58 mic With Universal Volt 1 Audio Interface. Can I get a good recording? Noise will not come in the recording ? Will I get crisp sound quality?
Yes, should not be a problem. Make sure your environment is quiet, use enough gain and get close to sound source.
Great song!
Thanks!
Great job dude! new sub
Awesome thank you!
If you screw off the grill, you can use it like a 57. Better for amps and kit etc.
Yes, I’ve done that in the past. But here I prefer the more mellow sound of the 58. Less top end.
Very cool 🎉
Thanks!
Very Pavement-esque
I’m a fan for sure!
great video
Thanks!
I'm not sure what you mean by "the focusrite solo doesn't really have great direct monitoring options", to me the direct monitor button seems like basically all you could ask for, correct me of I'm wrong
Great video btw!
Thanks, about the direct monitoring: I'm referring to other interfaces by competing companies that have DSP/no latency software mixers and real time effects. 20 years ago Focusrite made the Mbox with Digidesign and with a simple knob you could control how much mix was coming from the live inputs vs the computer playback, this Focusrite gen 3 solo can't do that. In addition, it has really poor playback volume with the direct monitor engaged. I'd recommend a different interface.
Song was 🤯
Thank you!
I think I read somewhere that Bono from U2 uses an sm58 exclusively for all his vocal tracks
I’ve heard that too!
This sounds awesome! But- there’s not a lot of dynamic change going on, the whole song stays consistently at one level- how would you recommend bringing in and taking out parts to fatten it up, mix-wise?
Thanks. You're correct it's not a very dynamic mix, but like most modern recordings (save for classical) that's what most listeners expect. I suppose I could have removed an element from the second verse to add some contrast but I was happy with the simple arrangement and didn't want to do anything to mess that up. When I want something "more" to fatten things up I usually write some counterpoint, maybe a background vocal in that case. but this is really just an exercise in the fundamentals of production, arranging and songwriting.
love the song, great job!!! did you consider/try directly pointing the mic to the guitar (no amp) without the ball mesh on? Drums sound really good btw!!
Thanks! Mic-ing the guitar itself would totally work (the ball makes it a bit darker, which I kind of like) but when I started this song it was initially just messing around with this acoustic guitar that had a pickup. The pedals made it fun so I just went with it!
Great idea - fun challenge - nice song!
Will you continue working like this? Why? Why not?
Thanks! It was a really fun project. I actually got rid of most of my gear years ago but yes I do plan on working on more projects with very strict limitations. Likely not just a Shure SM58 (still enjoy it for vocals) but I'm working a project with some DIY microphones I built myself. Still finishing the arrangement for the newest song.
No "Wurst" with this drum-Kit. :-)
It sounds pretty good! I've heard of people recording songs with just an sm58. I'd like to try this sometime too! Yahweh bless. :)
Thanks. It's a great exercise to focus on arrangement and songwriting.
Every one of Bono's U2 vocals was famously recorded in the back of the control room with a 58. It's not the gear.
Yes! By the great Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois too!
I literally just did this yesterday
Nice!
Sir, I want to do voice over. I want to buy Sure SM 58 mic. But a shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. This is not for recording. Condenser mics are made for recording. Sir, what should i do ? Please tell me the Truth
Your shopkeeper is mistaken. Dynamics are great for recording, the preferred mic for electric guitar and drums too. The Shure SM58 won’t have as much detail as a condenser but will sound good with EQ and compression. Expensive condensers like the Neumann U87 are often used in voiceover but a $100 condenser will not sound very good. You will also outgrow a cheap condenser but will keep a Sm58 forever.
Can you test mics before you buy them? Helps to hear and compare.
@@revevague6256 Sir, I am full beginner. I have never used a mic. first time Started buying mic. But I want professional quality. can i get SHURE SM58 and AUDIENT ID4 setup ?
Both great pieces but I would do some more research. Processing a microphone takes time and practice (EQ compression and de-esser). Might want to spend more and get something like a Rode Nt1 if you like the condenser sound. Take your time and listen to a lot of mics, do more reading and watch some more videos .
@@revevague6256 thanks sir, my room is not sound proof . Can I use SHURE SM 58 for Recording poetry ? Will I be able to mix if I use SHURE SM58 mic?
Good for you young man !
Back in the day (1961) we had 1 mic, 1 MONO tape machine, and 1 basement.
And friends that could actually play music.
Next step ?
Learn how to record WITHOUT Eq, overdrive, etc.
We didn't need that nonsense, neither do you !
Best of success, hit me up with questions if you like.
Bill P.
Thanks! I’ll keep these ideas in mind!
@@revevague6256 You're welcome ! 😀
what type of genre of music would this be called
I would call this “indie rock”.
I don't know why but everytime I record my voice with this mic my voice doesn't sound great and kind of weak. Does it mean that's just actually my voice or there is something wrong with my setting? It feels like the mic can't capture my voice in a whole, and if I sing loudly the recording result sounds really bad, so many noises in the file. I don't know how to explain it in english. It makes my voice sounds like I get flu. Or it sounds like ...hmmm...mono audio?
The mic needs quite a bit of gain and needs to be close to the source. If you’re trying to get the recording louder you will need to use limiting. Research gain staging and recording 101 topics. Good luck.
@@revevague6256 Thank you very much for your kind reply. I'll try it! Love and support from Indonesia 🙏
Sir , nice video, please Suggest me Good Mic And Audio Interface for poetry recording. But I want professional quality.
Suggest me Shure or Sennheiser Good mic
Thanks. If your recording space isn't heavily treated a dynamic like the Shure SM7b would work well. It's a professional broadcast microphone. Needs a strong preamp but something like a Klark Teknik mic booster would do the job. A lot of the new interfaces work really well (would still likely need the mic booster) I'm not crazy about the Focusrite Scarlett Solo (doesn't have good direct monitoring, makes it difficult to hear your voice while recording), so something by MOTU, Presonus (the Audiobox is nice) or other company with a good reputation could work well.
@@revevague6256 Thanks, But Shure Sm7b is very Costly. Sm58 is good for me ?
The Sm58 could be a good option. Might need an extra pop filter (especially if you’re close to the mic). It will need some compression and EQ to open up nicely (maybe de-esser too). I made a video on each topic that might help.
How about make a song with Fake Microphone from China if it's worth it. 😅
Eventually I’d like to do one with something like a Behringer Xm8500 which is a sm58 copy.
@@revevague6256 Yes Dude that would really be superb and Interesting. Sadly I have a China made Beta58A not sure how to feel about it. It was a good test. when I heard about another product Kevler I tried it myself really made a big Difference.
Great lesson.
Thanks! 😃
Amazing! I loved it. God bless you. ❤
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nice, well done man!
Thanks!