I absolutely love this recap show with Rachel. Her points of view on the season were spot on. I hope that when season 2 comes, we have her back on your show.
Prime time Television this season was from beginning to end. I expect the same as the budget is increased for season 2 and onward. 2024 can’t come soon enough 💯
I’ve heard and understand the argument of book readers that Alicent and Aemond are being let off the hook and their agency taken away from them because of circumstance but I disagree. I think Alicent hears what she wants to hear on Visarys’ death bed. I don’t look at that moment as making her a sympathetic slave to circumstance. Also I see Aemonds reaction on Vaghar(sp?) as a distillation of a concept they talk about in the pilot episode: the realm is full of “warriors” that know nothing of war and its consequences. Aemond is a childish bully playing at war. When he kills Lucerys he realizes that he fucked up but I think he’s going to pivot and own the kill as if he totally meant it.
That could’ve possibly been Aemond’s first kill so it’ll be interesting to see how his character moves forward I hope that he owns it in public but in his private moments (especially with his mom) he knows he messed up
It’s so great to see Rachel back on this channel!! Please tell me you guys eventually plan on discussing Rings of Power together, because after that surprising finale I really would love to hear your thoughts!? I enjoyed the 1st season for the most part even though I think it had pacing issues but that finale solidified my love for Rings of Power and how excited I am for season 2.
Finally was able to watch episodes 9 and 10 (had to wait until my parents in law could watch with us) and had this review bookmarked to watch as soon as I did - absolutely LOVE you having Rachel! I’ve loved her discussions with Ken on Casterly Talk This finale was INCREDIBLE!! This whole first season has also been incredible, and I cannot WAIT for season 2
I'm listening on Spotify but I wanted to come by and say that I am so stoked to hear The Crusher here for this. Kristian, you have some of the best people involved with this show and you deserve so much credit for it. Thank you! Also, I wasn't a fan of GoT but this show got me. The shot with Vhagar above Arrax was so incredible! I yelled "oh shit!" out loud.
Ryan Condal was the always the main showrunner and wrote most of the story.Miguel even though he is credited as a showrunner is more like the main director.
So glad you got Rachel on the show! I have been watching her break down Rings of Power with Ken Napzok on Casterly Talk and she does an amazing job. I agree with you completely Kristian, this could be one of the best first seasons of television ever. Its a shame HBO and Warner Brothers waited to renew the show for a second season and we wont see these characters again until 2024.
I think the show has done a great job with the changes it has made from the book while staying true to the book. Especially since the book is written from an in-universe history perspective. For example, Luke’s death to Aemond being an accident in the show is more compelling to me than Aemond just being evil and murdering his cousin in cold blood like the book implies. There are no witnesses of the event besides Aemond and while his intentions may not have been to kill Luke, history won’t see it that way. Hence, it can still still remain accurate to the book.
Honestly I was hoping to see the Unforgiving , Ruthless and the crazy Aemond Targaryen that we get from the book... so at first I didn't like what they did with him in this episode but after sitting on it for a while I actually really like it now... it just makes it more tragic and gives complexity to Aemond's character. I can't help but feel though that blood and cheese, dying of the dragons.. the whole civil war that is going to happen is because of a misunderstanding and an accident 🤣🤣🤣 but As someone who read fire and blood I'd give this season as a whole 8.5/10... some changes and inconsistencies here and there but overall a really good show. Hyped for season 2 🔥🔥🔥
Rachel’s insights were excellent. She did an awesome job of comparing and contrasting the show and book without spoiling future content. Loved the discussion.
Rachel! It was so fun to see her and get her thoughts on the show! I did love this season, it was so nuanced and the characters were so well developed. Which honestly surprised me. When i found out that they were going to be skipping time, I wasn't sure how that would work out for the characters but man was I wrong! The story was so beautifully crafted and the show was beautifully shot, and the character development was so rich, and like Rachel said, the body acting. The way Emma Darcy just gave everything to her character... I am in love with this show and i am going to spend the weekend rewatching it all in one day. Lol. This season was so fun to discuss and talk about! Till next time everyone!
This season has been one of the most gripping television events I have ever watched. The acting and writing on this show has been next level amazing. I truly enjoyed watching all your reviews and reactions. Todays discussion with Rachel was great as well. Even though I didn't necessarily agree with some of Rachels criticisms of the show, I loved to hear her point of view as well. She is incredibly intelligent and as a book reader, it was nice to see where she was coming from.
The Miguel Sapochnik thing is being way overblown by you Kristian. There was no falling out. He never planned to continue beyond Season 1. He was only there to help guide a completely new production team through the experience of creating this type of show for an entire season. Ryan Condal is the one who is the A Song of Ice and Fire/GOT super fan. He’s the Dave Filoni of this universe. Miguel never even read the books. Alan Taylor will step in just fine and nobody will ever even know Sapochnik existed. He never wrote a single episode for GOT/HOTD and wasn’t involved in anything beyond directing/executive producing.
@@TheKristianHarloff Ok! I will! I hope you are well! As well! Ryan Condal is the one who makes this engine turn, so as long as he’s still there I’ll have no problems. Alan Taylor is a TV legend and has way more experience with GOT than Sapochnik ever did so there’s going to be zero drop off. Big bonus that we never have to watch another episode where we can’t see shit, too!
Hey Kristian! Just rediscovered you! I used to watch you and Mark back when you guys were the Schmoes Know. Loved your stuff. And good to see you are still going strong. Love that you are excited for House of the dragon. Now I need to go back and watch all the content I’ve been missing out on these past few years 😂
Great discussion! But I have to agree with you, Kristian, with the layers of complexity this show has brought. Although there is much respect and love for the book, it sometimes seems to fall on pure evil and greed, while the show offers more of a tragic perspective, one of the main elements that make great villains arise.
Isn't it just amazing when a show is great and we can heap love and celebration on it?? Hate watching and complaining is cathartic, but enjoying great art and media is such a better experience. Kristian is as excited as us and he doesn't even know what's gonna happen ahhh I'm so excited for tv-only folks (although to be fair I've been surprised as a FIre & Blood reader as well)! Love having Rachel on this!
More Rachel please especially for in-depth nerd discussions! She explained Aemond's agency so much better than the people screaming on Reddit and I actually understand where they're coming from now!
Hey Kristian! 👋 I just wanted to let you know, I heard you say you were going to have Rachel on, I saved this until after dinner and everything, to just sit and watch instead of TV. Great job overall & knowledgeable as always Rachel!!! 👏
Just a word on the Ryan Condal/Miguel Sapochnik situation. From everything I've gathered with interviews/behind the scenes, etc. Outside of GRRM's source material, Condal is the heart of the show. He's the lead writer, and while I don't think everything has been absolutely perfect with the writing, it's been mostly really good and has soared with extremely high highs. Condal's a self confessed nerd of GRRM's books, and he seems sincere in that. This is not to take anything away from Sapochnik. I'm just a fan and a laymen just looking from the outside in, but the impression I get from interviews was that he did this more as favour to Condal (who was appointed first as showrunner) to get the show up and running as they were friends previous to this and it kinda fell into Sapocnik's lap that he became co-showrunner as he ended up doing a lot of work on it. Sapochnik had the experience from his time on GOT working on a project on the massive scale that HOTD would be, and all the logistics that would be involved that Condal did not. But Condal was essentially handpicked by GRRM. Sapochnik undoubtedly brings a special sauce to HOTD that's uniquely his and goes beyond just the episodes that he directed. I do worry a bit that his special magic will be missed in the upcoming seasons. As has been pointed out, while there's been a few scenes of notable spectacle (funnily enough, this where HOTD noticeably stumbles at times, where the logic present for 95% if the show disappears for the sake of big actions beats), the strength of HOTD (alongside it's glorious cast) has been the writing , and Condal is spearing that. So, long story short, while ideally, it would be great if Condal and Sapochnik could stay on together. However, of the two, if one had to go, I'd would rather that Condal stays, as he would be the much bigger miss for me, and would potentially affect the quality of HOTD more tangibly if he were to go instead of Sapochnik.
@@TheKristianHarloff Yeah, I hear the same too, to be fair. I have to say though, I love love love your enthusiasm in regards to HOTD. You're immediate reactions vids and your subsequent reviews have been real highlights during this 10 week run.
(This will only make sense if u saw kristian on campeas show today) Most anticipated comic book shows of 2023 Kristian: u forgot the boys season 4 Campea: I didn’t put it on because it’s not a brand new season it’s a recurring show Also Campea: proceeds to put Loki season 2 on the list me: fucking Canadians
Thank you for mentioning Rome, one of my favorite shows based off the 1st season alone, Im glad they were given the opportunity to end the show but cramming 3-4 seasons worth of story into season 2 was too much. Damn shame.
The books are written by 2nd/3rd hand accounts. George R. R. Martin has said many times that what you read in Fire and Blood is a bunch of half truths.
Not a big fan of GoT but I’ve watched the original show. I had my hesitation to watch this show but after listing to you and Rachel talk about it I will be binge watching it soon. Good show and thanks for the entertainment.
After only 10 episodes I seriously think this shows 1st season eclipses GoT first season. I never thought that would be possible considering GoT ended by putting a bad taste in my mouth and I don’t like most prequels on principle. Usually I don’t need to know about what came before in franchises but prequels like House of the Dragon and Andor are the way to do them right, unlike Solo for instance. This show excels at knowing what story it’s telling. The time jumps and the way they are used signals a maturity that GoT lacked.
You’re right about being one of the best 1st seasons ever. You’re definitely not over-hyping this. I’d still say Soprano’s still ranks 1st for me. Breaking Bad is there too. I really think though the way HoD handled it’s 1st season is going t be a new blueprint for tv to emulate.
It's Rachel! #shirewolves forever! Great insights as always. The time jumps were certainly needed. Not a perfect execution, but way better than the "teleporter" movements we saw in the latter of GoT. I think they (and others) will do better with this technique after getting experience on how to do it. I fall into the Amonde was really trying to bully Luke. And the respective "sweet summer children" are new to battle--it shows and this is the result. My only disappointment is that "the damn foolish thing" is why they go war? Well, it does happen in history. Bring on season 2.
Ngl these two years will be a long wait, but it'll be worth it see Cregan Stark. And maybe see Daemon recruiting the riverlands, if that's the case than I'll scream like a 14 year old girl if they show us the lads !!! 💯😆
10:22 I've read the books (including Fire and Blood) but i am one of those that loved the interpretation that Aemond did not wanted to kill him at the end and was the dragons who acted on their own... I think it does not undermine the agency of Aemond nor Lucerys. At the end, dragons have a connection to their riders, yes, but a psichological / emotional one. Aemond knew politicaly that killing Lucerys was goind to start open war so he rationakl part decided to stop at some point, but deep inside him, he wanted to kill him because of the rage, the hate, the humiliation he felt as a kid when he loose his eye, the revenge he wanted... And Vaghar FELT that. just as Syrax felt the pain of Rhaenyras miscarriage.
This first season, is benchmark storytelling, in the sense that, when adapting a pre-existing novel, this show really cherry-picked the right stuff (for audiences), and gave us episodes with potent storytelling plotlines, and nothing really that could have been left out. All the storylines had an impact on the overall plot, and didn't feel like "filler". I loved the season.
Rachel was great, one thing though she said they never showed Leana Valeryan ride Vhagar but they did in that episode her and Daemon were putting on an Air show for the people of Pentos I think
The Right hand to the king, played a important role in guiding the king to a peaceful kingdom….while he was healthy….yes he is slimy and is doing deeds to lead his grandchildren to the iron throne….he is a very compelling character
I enjoyed Season 1. I give it a pretty good rating minus a couple things here and there obviously. Started a little slow. But had me invested around Ep 4. Really good episode. Ep 5 hooked me in completely. It's the turning point of the season. Ep 8 and Ep 7 are the two best respectively. 8 was peak GoT. 7 was very Shakespearean. Ep 9 to me is the most underrated cause it's a "You Win or You Die" political intrigue episode marred by three mins of a "Beyond the Wall" ending. Ep 3 to me is the most overrated cause ppl loved it so much but it was basically just a MCU movie feat. King of the Sigmas and the Crabfeeders.
I’m still on the fence with Game of thrones, but I’m here for season two of House of Dragon. I agree with Rachel. I feel the same way, because the books are done it could be better, but we’ll see.
I would like to see more of their history after the dance of dragons but I think it would be better served as it's own "show" rather than a continuation of HOTD. Honestly it may even be better as a limited series just to bridge the gap between HOTD and GOT rather than something that runs for 3-4 seasons on its own. I am getting worried that there are so many spin offs in the works that it may start to feel like they are milking for content and length and would hate for that to be how this world goes out.
I don’t know why I just peeped the Tony soprano poster, Goated for having that 😂. This is one of my favorite first seasons maybe my favorite after season one of Heroes
I think the show portrayed Alicent in a way that she took something she didn't fully understand and used that to fuel what she already believed/wanted. It was just something she could use to rally more support, that she didn't realize was already working behind the scenes, for her son's cause. I also think that since the book is told by multiple narrators and some are unreliable that Aemond comes back and owns what happened with Luc and claims it was intentional. He was effing with Luc but decides this is who is going to be so there is ownership coming, in my theory/opinion.
I like that the dragons started the dance . I feel like aamond was just taunting him but I understand, I love the illusion that Targaryen’s make people think they control the dragons.
About the Viserys and Aemma C section scene, you're supposed to understand that Aemma was going to die no matter what (Confirmed by Ryan Condal on Inside The Episode 1). Having the baby was going to kill her, it was not a matter of her or the baby, it was either she dies and the baby might live, or they both die. The show did not do a great job of explaining that and many people (myself included) came to the incorrect conclusion that Viserys chose his son over his wifes life, but to be clear, Viserys did not sacrifice his wife to save Baelon, the "heir for a day", he choose his son over losing them both. It probably was a more interesting choice to have him actually choose, as that's far more tragic that he lost both over something that was needless, but that's not how it actually happened.
I really appreciated that Rhaenys didn't blindly support Rhaenyra just because they're both women and should be "allies" based on that fact alone. Just like the male characters don't deserve blind support and loyalty neither should the female characters w/o demonstrating their character and that they deserve the support in their actions.
lol I think everyone knows that Alicent did not actually misunderstand him. She just used that as an excuse to do what she wanted. I'm also here to keep complaining about Robert Meyer Burnette spoiling the finale days before it aired. What a dick. It would've been so gut wrenching to watch that final scene unspoiled.
See Harold even she said the time jumps where too jarring. They should have flushed out the dead characters. Like String did he even say any words in the show? His death meant nothing. Deamonds second wife she never even spoke her dragon kills her means nothing. It felt rushed to someone who hasn’t read the books but seen all 8 seasons of game of thrones week to week
Love seeing how hyped Kristian is off this show. Really shows how good it is
Love hearing Rachel’s thoughts! Thank you Kristian for bringing her on the show for this recap
Totally agree never seen her but I really like her
Absolutely. Great final review of a phenomenal first season.
This is awesome as always. House of the Dragon had honestly one of the best first seasons I've ever seen. Can't wait for season 2
Loved that conversation. Was a pleasure to listen.
I absolutely love this recap show with Rachel. Her points of view on the season were spot on. I hope that when season 2 comes, we have her back on your show.
😂🤣😂
Prime time Television this season was from beginning to end. I expect the same as the budget is increased for season 2 and onward. 2024 can’t come soon enough 💯
It’s always wonderful to see Rachel! She is just a joy all around 🙂
Thanks for your time on reviewing the season! Great video and appreciate the effort.
Great conversation, more of Rachel for these type of aftershows. Excellent rapport & back and forth with you, Kristian!
I’ve heard and understand the argument of book readers that Alicent and Aemond are being let off the hook and their agency taken away from them because of circumstance but I disagree. I think Alicent hears what she wants to hear on Visarys’ death bed. I don’t look at that moment as making her a sympathetic slave to circumstance. Also I see Aemonds reaction on Vaghar(sp?) as a distillation of a concept they talk about in the pilot episode: the realm is full of “warriors” that know nothing of war and its consequences. Aemond is a childish bully playing at war. When he kills Lucerys he realizes that he fucked up but I think he’s going to pivot and own the kill as if he totally meant it.
That could’ve possibly been Aemond’s first kill so it’ll be interesting to see how his character moves forward
I hope that he owns it in public but in his private moments (especially with his mom) he knows he messed up
The shows performances where exceptional. I will not speculate on the story moving forward but I hope that there are more surprises. Great work!
It’s so great to see Rachel back on this channel!! Please tell me you guys eventually plan on discussing Rings of Power together, because after that surprising finale I really would love to hear your thoughts!? I enjoyed the 1st season for the most part even though I think it had pacing issues but that finale solidified my love for Rings of Power and how excited I am for season 2.
Yeah I'm with Rachel on the misunderstanding between Alicent and Viserys, it was the one thing I didnt like all season but overall I loved the season
Great discussion. I really loved the show. Best thing I've seen in a while.
Finally was able to watch episodes 9 and 10 (had to wait until my parents in law could watch with us) and had this review bookmarked to watch as soon as I did - absolutely LOVE you having Rachel! I’ve loved her discussions with Ken on Casterly Talk
This finale was INCREDIBLE!! This whole first season has also been incredible, and I cannot WAIT for season 2
I'm listening on Spotify but I wanted to come by and say that I am so stoked to hear The Crusher here for this. Kristian, you have some of the best people involved with this show and you deserve so much credit for it. Thank you!
Also, I wasn't a fan of GoT but this show got me. The shot with Vhagar above Arrax was so incredible! I yelled "oh shit!" out loud.
Thank you for the kind words and LOVED having Rachel on!
Ryan Condal was the always the main showrunner and wrote most of the story.Miguel even though he is credited as a showrunner is more like the main director.
So glad you got Rachel on the show! I have been watching her break down Rings of Power with Ken Napzok on Casterly Talk and she does an amazing job. I agree with you completely Kristian, this could be one of the best first seasons of television ever. Its a shame HBO and Warner Brothers waited to renew the show for a second season and we wont see these characters again until 2024.
Great to see you and Rachel have a good long conversation about this great show.
I think the show has done a great job with the changes it has made from the book while staying true to the book. Especially since the book is written from an in-universe history perspective. For example, Luke’s death to Aemond being an accident in the show is more compelling to me than Aemond just being evil and murdering his cousin in cold blood like the book implies. There are no witnesses of the event besides Aemond and while his intentions may not have been to kill Luke, history won’t see it that way. Hence, it can still still remain accurate to the book.
Honestly I was hoping to see the Unforgiving , Ruthless and the crazy Aemond Targaryen that we get from the book... so at first I didn't like what they did with him in this episode but after sitting on it for a while I actually really like it now... it just makes it more tragic and gives complexity to Aemond's character. I can't help but feel though that blood and cheese, dying of the dragons.. the whole civil war that is going to happen is because of a misunderstanding and an accident 🤣🤣🤣 but As someone who read fire and blood I'd give this season as a whole 8.5/10... some changes and inconsistencies here and there but overall a really good show. Hyped for season 2 🔥🔥🔥
Rachel’s insights were excellent. She did an awesome job of comparing and contrasting the show and book without spoiling future content. Loved the discussion.
Rachel! It was so fun to see her and get her thoughts on the show! I did love this season, it was so nuanced and the characters were so well developed. Which honestly surprised me. When i found out that they were going to be skipping time, I wasn't sure how that would work out for the characters but man was I wrong! The story was so beautifully crafted and the show was beautifully shot, and the character development was so rich, and like Rachel said, the body acting. The way Emma Darcy just gave everything to her character... I am in love with this show and i am going to spend the weekend rewatching it all in one day. Lol. This season was so fun to discuss and talk about! Till next time everyone!
Rachel! Cheers for bringing her on. Good dialogue both of you.
Such a fantastic discussion and Rachel was the right one to share the season review with you.
Thanks! I loved hanging out with my pal!
Love love love this episode! So good, please do this weekly with Rachel for season two like the old school recap days
Love Rachael here!! Love her insights on this!! 😁😁 Great episode my dude!!
Thanks for this awesome discussion. Always great to hear from Rachel.
Loved having her on!
Great guest! Loved the conversation. She offered some interesting insight on the show.
great to see rachel on the channel and her input on House of the Dragon and books. cant wait for season 2 of this show
This season has been one of the most gripping television events I have ever watched. The acting and writing on this show has been next level amazing. I truly enjoyed watching all your reviews and reactions. Todays discussion with Rachel was great as well. Even though I didn't necessarily agree with some of Rachels criticisms of the show, I loved to hear her point of view as well. She is incredibly intelligent and as a book reader, it was nice to see where she was coming from.
The Miguel Sapochnik thing is being way overblown by you Kristian.
There was no falling out. He never planned to continue beyond Season 1. He was only there to help guide a completely new production team through the experience of creating this type of show for an entire season.
Ryan Condal is the one who is the A Song of Ice and Fire/GOT super fan. He’s the Dave Filoni of this universe. Miguel never even read the books.
Alan Taylor will step in just fine and nobody will ever even know Sapochnik existed. He never wrote a single episode for GOT/HOTD and wasn’t involved in anything beyond directing/executive producing.
Come back and apologize when more is revealed! Hope you are well!
@@TheKristianHarloff Ok! I will! I hope you are well! As well!
Ryan Condal is the one who makes this engine turn, so as long as he’s still there I’ll have no problems. Alan Taylor is a TV legend and has way more experience with GOT than Sapochnik ever did so there’s going to be zero drop off.
Big bonus that we never have to watch another episode where we can’t see shit, too!
Hey Kristian! Just rediscovered you! I used to watch you and Mark back when you guys were the Schmoes Know. Loved your stuff. And good to see you are still going strong. Love that you are excited for House of the dragon. Now I need to go back and watch all the content I’ve been missing out on these past few years 😂
Great discussion! But I have to agree with you, Kristian, with the layers of complexity this show has brought.
Although there is much respect and love for the book, it sometimes seems to fall on pure evil and greed, while the show offers more of a tragic perspective, one of the main elements that make great villains arise.
Isn't it just amazing when a show is great and we can heap love and celebration on it?? Hate watching and complaining is cathartic, but enjoying great art and media is such a better experience. Kristian is as excited as us and he doesn't even know what's gonna happen ahhh I'm so excited for tv-only folks (although to be fair I've been surprised as a FIre & Blood reader as well)! Love having Rachel on this!
Great conversation with Rachel
They need to do a show set in old Valeria. Dragons, blood magic, apocalyptic events. This place has EVERYTHING!
Awesome seeing Rachel on here with you! Loved hearing both of your thoughts!
Kushing reviewing House of the Dragon! Yes!
More Rachel please especially for in-depth nerd discussions! She explained Aemond's agency so much better than the people screaming on Reddit and I actually understand where they're coming from now!
Haven’t enjoyed GOT so much since seasons 4. HotD delivered! That’s what she said. I’ll see myself out.
Love this review. Great conversation! Please have Rachel on more when it comes to GOT/HOTD things.
I would LOVE to
Hey Kristian! 👋 I just wanted to let you know, I heard you say you were going to have Rachel on, I saved this until after dinner and everything, to just sit and watch instead of TV. Great job overall & knowledgeable as always Rachel!!! 👏
Just a word on the Ryan Condal/Miguel Sapochnik situation. From everything I've gathered with interviews/behind the scenes, etc. Outside of GRRM's source material, Condal is the heart of the show. He's the lead writer, and while I don't think everything has been absolutely perfect with the writing, it's been mostly really good and has soared with extremely high highs. Condal's a self confessed nerd of GRRM's books, and he seems sincere in that.
This is not to take anything away from Sapochnik. I'm just a fan and a laymen just looking from the outside in, but the impression I get from interviews was that he did this more as favour to Condal (who was appointed first as showrunner) to get the show up and running as they were friends previous to this and it kinda fell into Sapocnik's lap that he became co-showrunner as he ended up doing a lot of work on it. Sapochnik had the experience from his time on GOT working on a project on the massive scale that HOTD would be, and all the logistics that would be involved that Condal did not. But Condal was essentially handpicked by GRRM.
Sapochnik undoubtedly brings a special sauce to HOTD that's uniquely his and goes beyond just the episodes that he directed. I do worry a bit that his special magic will be missed in the upcoming seasons. As has been pointed out, while there's been a few scenes of notable spectacle (funnily enough, this where HOTD noticeably stumbles at times, where the logic present for 95% if the show disappears for the sake of big actions beats), the strength of HOTD (alongside it's glorious cast) has been the writing , and Condal is spearing that.
So, long story short, while ideally, it would be great if Condal and Sapochnik could stay on together. However, of the two, if one had to go, I'd would rather that Condal stays, as he would be the much bigger miss for me, and would potentially affect the quality of HOTD more tangibly if he were to go instead of Sapochnik.
Totally fair. I just hear A LOT of people giving Miguel love who worked on the show.
@@TheKristianHarloff Yeah, I hear the same too, to be fair. I have to say though, I love love love your enthusiasm in regards to HOTD. You're immediate reactions vids and your subsequent reviews have been real highlights during this 10 week run.
Love listening to Rachel's views. Thanks for sharing.
What a great special episode, we definitely need the crusher to come back and do more specials. What a great way to cap off an amazing show.
(This will only make sense if u saw kristian on campeas show today)
Most anticipated comic book shows of 2023
Kristian: u forgot the boys season 4
Campea: I didn’t put it on because it’s not a brand new season it’s a recurring show
Also Campea: proceeds to put Loki season 2 on the list
me: fucking Canadians
Great discussion. Hope you have a great day
Thank you for mentioning Rome, one of my favorite shows based off the 1st season alone, Im glad they were given the opportunity to end the show but cramming 3-4 seasons worth of story into season 2 was too much. Damn shame.
The books are written by 2nd/3rd hand accounts. George R. R. Martin has said many times that what you read in Fire and Blood is a bunch of half truths.
awesome discussion, great to see Rachel on here
Not a big fan of GoT but I’ve watched the original show. I had my hesitation to watch this show but after listing to you and Rachel talk about it I will be binge watching it soon.
Good show and thanks for the entertainment.
Thank you for watching!
Rachel’s needs to be on after every new episode of House of the Dragon going forward
She is the best!
great review! thanks, man.
Came here from the campea show. Glad I subscribed
I am glad you did as well!
He’s not made Lord Commander. She puts him on King’s guard. The bald older knight who walked out of Green Council was Lord Commander.
Rachel is good and thank you for not spoiling.
Thank you!
After only 10 episodes I seriously think this shows 1st season eclipses GoT first season. I never thought that would be possible considering GoT ended by putting a bad taste in my mouth and I don’t like most prequels on principle. Usually I don’t need to know about what came before in franchises but prequels like House of the Dragon and Andor are the way to do them right, unlike Solo for instance. This show excels at knowing what story it’s telling. The time jumps and the way they are used signals a maturity that GoT lacked.
You’re right about being one of the best 1st seasons ever. You’re definitely not over-hyping this. I’d still say Soprano’s still ranks 1st for me. Breaking Bad is there too. I really think though the way HoD handled it’s 1st season is going t be a new blueprint for tv to emulate.
Thank you!
Loved having Rachel with all this knowledge!!! :))))
It's Rachel! #shirewolves forever! Great insights as always. The time jumps were certainly needed. Not a perfect execution, but way better than the "teleporter" movements we saw in the latter of GoT. I think they (and others) will do better with this technique after getting experience on how to do it. I fall into the Amonde was really trying to bully Luke. And the respective "sweet summer children" are new to battle--it shows and this is the result. My only disappointment is that "the damn foolish thing" is why they go war? Well, it does happen in history. Bring on season 2.
Ngl these two years will be a long wait, but it'll be worth it see Cregan Stark. And maybe see Daemon recruiting the riverlands, if that's the case than I'll scream like a 14 year old girl if they show us the lads !!! 💯😆
Interesting!
10:22 I've read the books (including Fire and Blood) but i am one of those that loved the interpretation that Aemond did not wanted to kill him at the end and was the dragons who acted on their own...
I think it does not undermine the agency of Aemond nor Lucerys. At the end, dragons have a connection to their riders, yes, but a psichological / emotional one. Aemond knew politicaly that killing Lucerys was goind to start open war so he rationakl part decided to stop at some point, but deep inside him, he wanted to kill him because of the rage, the hate, the humiliation he felt as a kid when he loose his eye, the revenge he wanted... And Vaghar FELT that. just as Syrax felt the pain of Rhaenyras miscarriage.
This first season, is benchmark storytelling, in the sense that, when adapting a pre-existing novel, this show really cherry-picked the right stuff (for audiences), and gave us episodes with potent storytelling plotlines, and nothing really that could have been left out. All the storylines had an impact on the overall plot, and didn't feel like "filler". I loved the season.
Yeah enjoyed the format of this review.
Rachel was great, one thing though she said they never showed Leana Valeryan ride Vhagar but they did in that episode her and Daemon were putting on an Air show for the people of Pentos I think
I don’t think Miguel Sapochnik is needed for this show. The minds behind it are Ryan and George.
Such a pleasure having Rachel on! Great show!!!
That was GREAT! Now do a show with Rachel breaking down Rings of Power.
I like the eye patch guy, he just seems like such a badass heel
The Right hand to the king, played a important role in guiding the king to a peaceful kingdom….while he was healthy….yes he is slimy and is doing deeds to lead his grandchildren to the iron throne….he is a very compelling character
Been looking forward to this one!
Let's go!! I can't wait to watch this vid and hear what you guys will say.
I enjoyed Season 1. I give it a pretty good rating minus a couple things here and there obviously. Started a little slow. But had me invested around Ep 4. Really good episode. Ep 5 hooked me in completely. It's the turning point of the season. Ep 8 and Ep 7 are the two best respectively. 8 was peak GoT. 7 was very Shakespearean. Ep 9 to me is the most underrated cause it's a "You Win or You Die" political intrigue episode marred by three mins of a "Beyond the Wall" ending. Ep 3 to me is the most overrated cause ppl loved it so much but it was basically just a MCU movie feat. King of the Sigmas and the Crabfeeders.
I’m still on the fence with Game of thrones, but I’m here for season two of House of Dragon. I agree with Rachel. I feel the same way, because the books are done it could be better, but we’ll see.
Vaegon Vaemond.. 😆 awww Kristian, never change. 💪
Great episode!
Kristian! you should read the dunk and egg novellas, we might go to the blackfyre rebellions eventually
I would like to see more of their history after the dance of dragons but I think it would be better served as it's own "show" rather than a continuation of HOTD. Honestly it may even be better as a limited series just to bridge the gap between HOTD and GOT rather than something that runs for 3-4 seasons on its own. I am getting worried that there are so many spin offs in the works that it may start to feel like they are milking for content and length and would hate for that to be how this world goes out.
It seemed like Amon just wanted to bully not kill. He thought he could control his dragon he was wrong.
Exactly. That's s we're he effed up.
Awesome to have Rachel on!!
I don’t know why I just peeped the Tony soprano poster, Goated for having that 😂. This is one of my favorite first seasons maybe my favorite after season one of Heroes
I think the show portrayed Alicent in a way that she took something she didn't fully understand and used that to fuel what she already believed/wanted. It was just something she could use to rally more support, that she didn't realize was already working behind the scenes, for her son's cause. I also think that since the book is told by multiple narrators and some are unreliable that Aemond comes back and owns what happened with Luc and claims it was intentional. He was effing with Luc but decides this is who is going to be so there is ownership coming, in my theory/opinion.
Crazy that the network didn’t actually want the build up like this and wanted to get straight to the Dance of Dragons
Great show, would love to have a recap show with Rachel on her thoughts of the Rings of Power.
Rome was a co-production by HBO *_and_* the BBC.
Agreed Kristian 👍
I know this is like 2 weeks old and you probably won't see it but can we PLEASE do another one of these with Rachel about Rings of Power?
I like that the dragons started the dance . I feel like aamond was just taunting him but I understand, I love the illusion that Targaryen’s make people think they control the dragons.
Season 2 has A LOT to live up to.
Awwww I miss Rachel so much thanks for having her own Christian
I am glad she was available!
About the Viserys and Aemma C section scene, you're supposed to understand that Aemma was going to die no matter what (Confirmed by Ryan Condal on Inside The Episode 1). Having the baby was going to kill her, it was not a matter of her or the baby, it was either she dies and the baby might live, or they both die. The show did not do a great job of explaining that and many people (myself included) came to the incorrect conclusion that Viserys chose his son over his wifes life, but to be clear, Viserys did not sacrifice his wife to save Baelon, the "heir for a day", he choose his son over losing them both. It probably was a more interesting choice to have him actually choose, as that's far more tragic that he lost both over something that was needless, but that's not how it actually happened.
I love this show so damn much.
I really appreciated that Rhaenys didn't blindly support Rhaenyra just because they're both women and should be "allies" based on that fact alone. Just like the male characters don't deserve blind support and loyalty neither should the female characters w/o demonstrating their character and that they deserve the support in their actions.
Great show mate. If you can, you must ask her back!
I love u for this! Can u do a video on where u think they’ll take it for season 2?
Maybe as we get closer!
Glorious. Enough said.
lol I think everyone knows that Alicent did not actually misunderstand him. She just used that as an excuse to do what she wanted. I'm also here to keep complaining about Robert Meyer Burnette spoiling the finale days before it aired. What a dick. It would've been so gut wrenching to watch that final scene unspoiled.
See Harold even she said the time jumps where too jarring. They should have flushed out the dead characters. Like String did he even say any words in the show? His death meant nothing. Deamonds second wife she never even spoke her dragon kills her means nothing. It felt rushed to someone who hasn’t read the books but seen all 8 seasons of game of thrones week to week
Nice surprise today. People hit like and show a little class.