Stock Power vs $2000 Engine Mods
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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How much power can we add with just bolt-on parts?
We’ve got a new air filter, a fuel pump, a boost solenoid, new spark plugs, bigger injectors and a full exhaust to fit in just one day. We’re then off to dyno to have the car mapped by a Subaru specialist.
We’re trying to beat a supercar with just $15,000 in mods and this might be the last piece of the puzzle. We’ve got all the parts we need to make a massive power gain on our Subaru and they’re all parts you could fit on your driveway. We needed to fit all these parts in a day so we could get the car mapped, but it all went horribly wrong.
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🔴 Ep 2 - Can a $5000 Subaru BEAT a $200,000 Supercar?
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🔴 Ep 3 - Will $1000 Coilovers Help Beat a Supercar?
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🔴 Ep 4 - How Much Faster are Track Tyres?
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🔴 Ep 5 - How Much Faster Is a Lighter Car?
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🔴 Ep 6 - Stock Brakes vs $1000 Track Brakes
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I must say, 20-30 minutes on these types of videos is the perfect length. 12-15 is a bit too short for me
definitely
12 to 15 sounds like pretty long to me.
Absolutely agree
@@RayanM50B25 you obviously never watched top gear
@@RayanM50B25 honestly I think 5 - 7 is too long for anybody
Wonder how much go faster stripes would affect the performance
Like 3 seconds a lap
Obv adds 3hp per stripe
cant believe ppl still dk this🙄🙄🙄
Red paint would give you 5 seconds easy, da red onez go fasta
at least +20hp at the wheels
At least 69 hp
Great result guys and great to meet you both 👍😎
Thanks for the tune! Just gotta beat that Lambo now! Callum
Mine is one of those blobeye wrx making 303 on a td04, you mapped it last year and still going strong
@@davidandrews4330 awesome David 👌
I don't know, I really liked to see them sort of fumble around and figure things out. I feel like they brought in a Subaru Jedi Master when they called you.
You guys are absolutely killing it with this series - while the production value is fairly low its actually perfect for what it is - you guys are showing you don't need fancy this or that - you need good chaps with great chemistry and personality - and of course interesting petrolhead content!
Nothing beats watching car guys having a bad day then ended up with great results. I want this on a box set!
They just need to carry on ripping off DONUT MEDIA until they get demonetized
@@psychedelicphlegm Riiiiight, sure they are. No clue what you're referring to but you do realize that one RUclips channel doesn't own an idea and that many channels do very similar videos and or ideas and it's in no way "ripping someone off", right? Actually from your comment no, no you don't understand that. Either way these guys are, in my opinion, MUCH more fun to watch than the Donut guys - nothing against them but they aren't at all my cup of tea and I suspect from the success of the channel and this series others agree.
Demonetized for doing similar videos, wow, if that were remotely true most of RUclips would be demonetized. HAHA
@@psychedelicphlegm apparently making a car fast on a small budget is exclusive to Donut Media. Lol ok buddy.
Shame about the cheap exhaust. Should of bought a better unit which is would fit and work better. You had a big budget not the normal subaru owners one. 🙄
You may have nearly 6k leftover, but if you counted in Richard's pay after this headache, then surely this project is over budget! 😅 Mechanics like him are priceless.
I've been loving this Subaru build series!
11:49 is very relatable, as is 12:25
Whatever you all pay Richard, it isn't enough 😂 Love the series! It actually brought me to the channel. Love how relatable the content and the hosts are!
Callum rapidly blasting F bombs had me with the dumbest cheek to cheek smile
What? You mean they should be PAYING him??? :p
These are always the kind of car videos I enjoy the most, not the supercars and the fancy shit, but the relatable stuff
I agree, I think also because this car is not too expensive they don't have to be very careful with it, they can trash it around. Plus the mods are closer to reality to us then let's say staging an Audi R8 and being " ohhh it's so fast I wish you can feel how fast it is ".
@@cleonzenasro2998 exactly, we can actually do the same things to our cars it just feels familiar
WRX was a great selection for this series! Great aftermarket support for cheap mods. Keep it up!
The mods are cheap, but some things can take so much more time because the boxer configuration
@@b.w.9392 yea but then u start to forget all the annoyances as soon as u start driving
they copied donut media don’t support these guys
@@iCostiG how? Modding cars on a budget is a tale as old as time
as a wrx wagon owner as well. the up pipe is a dick of a job to do. for anyone watching who is going to do the same job. undo the two bolts on the engine mounts. undo the a bolt on the pitch mount seeing as youll have the intercooler off already and jack up the engine with a block of wood under the sump. ive removed a catted up pipe from a bugeye wagon and recently a 03 turbo foz this way. means you you don't have to remove the turbo. and, underrated mods to do to these cars. group n sti gearbox mount. upgraded pitch stop mount (whiteline, perrin, ect), rear sway bar and heavy duty mounts. top 3 mods to do.
That dyno must be VERY generous. I have a 07 wagon and had to put a a VF48 turbo, grimmspeed top mount, id 1050 injectors, TGV delete, and full turbo back exhaust to get 298HP… with a 2.5 L…..
They are reporting crank HP. But still pretty big numbers for modest mods on a 2.0.
Wrong. Engine dynos measure crank. Chassis dynos measure whp. Since the engine was in the car and the car was on the dyno it was whp. Which is weird, because those numbers are pretty dang high for stock turbo and IC.
Those numbers are at the wheel. They aren’t measuring at the crank
They are clearly measuring at the wheels. Those are not crank figures. Even if they were they would still be WAY high for that setup
@@boristheblade0954 "Driven Media
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At the crank. For some reason that's how we do it in the UK. Callum"
You've just got to know how to work on these .....if it's a weekend job probably book the week off aswell 🤣🤣
Dyno and suspension setup will gain so much time.
Was thinking that too - a proper corner balance and track focused setup should gain at least 1-2 seconds with a capable driver, which they have.
Needs Anti Lift Kit control arm bushings. Pretty cheap too
@@jonathanphilips4510 are those worth it on the 15+?
Easy 350hp to 400hp with front mount intercooler bigger turbo and exhaust, Walbro 255fuel pump, injectors and remap then your sorted boys.
A decent top mount would be better for this, they’re not chasing high numbers just a fast car
Shoulda done a down pipe at least though
That is amazing! I expected a 30-40 hp gain but holy crap did I underestimate. Thank you guys so much for this content btw, the chemistry's great!
you make 40hp on a totally stock motor with just a tune, with way faster spool up.
I loved this ! This might seriously be the best content on RUclips
More racing stripes! More vents!
Racing stripes tell the air where to go, for faster acceleration, and higher top speed! Each stripe = 3hp.
More vents = more cooling = more efficient = more fast. More vents also means more holes, making the car lighter!
Bigger turbo and intercooler imo and Go more hard-core with the weight saving
Definitely intercooler needed. And with those supporting mods you can easily go bigger turbo
This video perfectly sums up what it is like to work on a Subaru, a massive ball ache but worth it when all done! Good work guys, and still with £6k of the budget left!? Get a forged block, bigger turbo and FMIC and it will be a monster! By the way, I think the stock injectors were 440cc's
Forged block for 6k is a bit much. You could do rods, pistons and an sti vf34 turbo, not accounting for labour that should work. A ej207 sti engine can hold about 360hp (with stock turbo) with rods/pistons about 400. Depending on how different the wrx ej205 is anywhere between 360 and 400 is possible
Subaru are the easiest vehicles to work on
Duncan is a breath of fresh air isn’t he? Obviously loves what he does, and shares in the joy of his customers when he’s worked his magic. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Even though I'm late to this series. You can see on his face, he enjoys what he does and love Subarus even more
Gotta agree with the other comments, I am really enjoying this series. You really don't need fancy editing or equipment to make a good video, just good connections and a good idea. You guys are really making something nice happen with all of these extra guys and involving yourselves so much. It's not like "we dropped it at the shop and they fixed it up for us", it's: "we got down and dirty for 2-3 days working on this, eventually we had to give it to the shop because it's just out of our expertise, but we did most of the work". Really adds a nice personal touch to it that makes me all the more invested. Plus bringing in experts to really give it a specialty touch, with Richard and Duncan being specialists in the field.
It's pretty wild how big of a bump in power you can get from bolt-ons and a tune. Modern turbo cars are pretty impressive. There was a time not long ago where to see that kind of gain, you had to go from NA to forced induction.
I was wondering about that exhaust! I paid $1500 for mine on the e30, I thought, how on earth, $380??? Riiiiiiiiiight, it's crap.
FYI, the normal way to remove the up pipe is to loosen the engine mounts and jack the engine up on one side to rotate it out the way.
Dumping a bunch of dry ice on the sound deadening material on the floor will help break it up, hammer it to small bits before dumping it directly on the material and it will make chiseling it off much easier.
The joys of subaru flat fours... loving the series!
Thats a very happy dyno to hit 300whp on a stock TD04. A VF34 maxes out at around 300hp
Front splitter, rear diffuser, flat underbody (you should be able to make all of these with angle grinder and sheet of abs/aluminium)
Spark Plugs: I'm reading that more expensive plugs are not higher performance, only longer lasting. The cheaper copper plug, or most expensive gold, are the best conducting and highest performance.
Anybody still remember how the car still had to be "practical"? I wonder how fast the Subaru would still be with your moving stuff in the back of the "van:?
Smh they back peddled us.
Supercar also is unpractical
The only rule they had was that it had to be MORE practical than a supercar. Which it immediately is just by having big boot space.
If Richard weren’t around, you lads would be done for. I mean he fits a pipe that doesn’t fit, he does stand up comedy, he attends to medical emergencies. Multifaceted individual. Main character, no doubt about that
Now you can say blood, sweat and tears went into this build
Been really into these series now, having 2 Subarus myself and did exact same jobs you did byself without any experience was a 'cancer', but gained loads experience . Funny enough I had exact same exhaust blow lol. Keep the great work, this is true enthusiast stuff!
Hmmm... Something seems off with that power number. I've never seen a wrx with the OEM td04l make over like 250whp. That Dyno must either read very high, or there's some corrections going on. You're lucky to make that power on an ej205 with a vf39 from an sti.
Ребята, вы не представляете как я ждал новую серию. Для понимания, я загружаю эту серию с ужасным интернетом уже 15 минут и смотрю при помощи переводчика, но это всё ровно стоит того! С нетерпением жду новый выпуск!
Richard is the man! Put so much effort. Should probably have gone for modifying a swift sport vs a standard subaru or something like that.
Yesss, the Subaru is back!
Man I started wondering if I would see this episode before doomsday
Yay! Happy to see subie again!
This series is where it’s at!, keep it regular!
Duncan just has the type of face that says you can trust me that I will have this car make power. Love it. Perfect length on the vids lads keep it up!
Stock turbo definitely stretched at 300. Duncan mapped my classic afew yrs back. Very good
Richard is such a lad, helping with all your projects.
My love for the Subaru will never die the rumbles from the exhaust and whistles from the turbo are unmatched
For future reference, to get the up pipe out, I unbolted my headers, and I took out the bolts that mounts the motor to the subframe, then jacked up the motor, should just slip out if you do it right. No need to unbolt the turbo
Nice! I was wondering about this build for a month or two, I’m glad you three are still making progress.
Would be interesting to know how much more easily an expensive exhaust would fit and how much you'd save on man hours getting it in.
I'd much rather shell out double to avoid the hell they went through.
Swabbed 800€ exhaust into Legacy R and it took ~60 minutes with smoke breaks. It would have been faster if I had used a lift like they did in video.
Research into aftermarket parts you are going to install pays back massively, both in time and reduced headaches
I have been waiting for this video for soooooo long!!! This series is great!
I'd have probably gone with adding the bigger turbocharger per recommendation. That and possibly an upgraded drive shaft. Though, that's primarily because I get worried about throwing a rod due to excessive RPMs. 🤣💯
without beefed up Engine Parts, that Boxer will blow up
it should be fine they will only run it for a few laps on a small track, but yea long term surely
Lads can't believe you didn't get bigger turbo and you had it off twice!! Get a vf34 or 35 and do a side exit exhaust, Charlie will love it at sorry rolling road. I got 405bhp at a 1.5 bar of boost and 380 1 bar of boost. Duncan is a top mapper contact me when you need a 6 speed 🤣🤣🤣
What other mods does your car have? I only get 256 HP to the wheels with a VF-34 at 17 psi.
15:46 I actually called it. I was like it’s gonna be an exhaust leak. I also saw the smoke and was like that’s a lot more than normal 😂
304!! Well done fellas! That has to be worth the injuries?
On my previous Acura the fuel injectors were a 30 minute job lol.
Honda💪
Those green brackets of death REALLY suck. I managed to pull an injector wire loose in the process and never could track down the problem myself.
20+min Subaru vid, get the popcorn out
Should have gone with JapSpeed exhaust, full system for under £1000, unequal headers, up pipe, down pipe (with either decat or 200 cell high flow cat) and cat back, it all fits too 🤣🤣🤣
Would be great to see this challenge done with more cars, the more unusual (or unsuitable) the better.
Just a thought but would an E85 tune be a cheap-ish way to increase power even more? I honestly don't know how expensive it is or if it's even possible with your Subaru but maybe it's something to look into. Also I'd bet you could dial the suspension in even more than it already is. Anyway I really like this series and very much enjoy the chemistry between the three of you (and shoutout to Richard too lol). Thanks guys!
I almost wonder if it will be something accessible with the turbo and front mount. But it is meant to be practical, maybe E85 would make it unpractical given the access to the fuel itself
They're in the UK which means you cannot get e85 at a petrol station. Also if they did they would probably need to go for a flex fuel setup to ensure they weren't just limited to e85 alone. There are more cost affective methods of making power when you consider these things.
I spent more then 2k on my car so far in just performance parts. GDI 2.0t on e50 with aux fueling. Has 2 extra 42lbs injectors on throttle body that only spray under whatever throttle position I have them set up at. Helps keep my valves clean also.
Just fyi for anyone wanting the most performance for the money...its almost always a bigger turbo, and as minimal supporting mods as possible. Stock location turbo, catless parts that mate with oem exhausts, bigger injectors, flash tuned. Always will beat out full bolt ons and stock turbo.
I thought that a big part of Subarus weird soundtrack is its Boxer engine? They always have an odd burble to them don't they?
No. The "burbley" ones have an asymmetrical exhaust system. The latest series of FA engines have a matched exhaust system and they don't have anywhere near the characteristics of the old engine (some even have CVT fitted 🤯)
The uel headers also reduce power too believe it or now. Hence the na ej's came with el headers to try and get a bit more out of them. Also the reason when races they have el headers
I've been really enjoying this series. Looking forward to seeing the final results.
Great job. The juxtaposition of the downs of spannering to the highs of spinning it up on the road says everything about why folks even bother in the 1st place.
Well done lads
Loving this series. Hope to see more budget car modding like this in future.
The wrench knock-out gave me a good chuckle, thanks! 😂
Literally putting their lives on the line in the name of performance, made me subscribe.
Well you found out the key to Subaru...
Working on them with turn you into a bloody unicorn 🦄 hahah quite the bump there mate but welcome to the subi life haha
I have one of the wrx blobeye running over 300 mapped by Duncan. 303 on a 55 plate mapped last year
What mods?
@@jukeboxzero1 fuji racing fuel pump, sti pink injectors. Decat up pipe, 200 cell sports downpipe. Fuji racing 3 port boost solonoid. Ram air intake.
The yellow devil looking powerful
13:15 "Congratulations you've had a c*nt" absolutely killed me
Nice. On my B8 S4
I went from 333hp and 325tq
To 445hp and 425tq at the crank
With $400 heat exchanger, 400 pulley and belt, $900 tune
Little tip for next time... If you undid the engine mount nuts under the engine cradle, you would've been able to jack the engine up an inch on the offside to be able to get the turbo up-pipe out from underneath without needing to remove the turbo
Maybe a flat bottom would help the air flow
We need stripes for a 20 hp gain
are you sure that first dyno was done properly(100hp, 50% gain just with injectors, exhaust , remap and filter?!)
750cc injectors on a 2.0 wrx is insane, unless the end goal is 400+bhp on a 20 year old EJ205 and 5 speed box?? A set of 550 pinks or 565cc hawk/hatch blues would have been fine.
Duncan’s got that Keichi Tsuchiya levels of legendary presence about himself!
People dont seem to understand how much power loss there is in a drivetrain. Power stated us at the crank, AWD system like subarus will take away 30-35% or more of the power at the crank. RWD cars loosed 25% and FWD cars between 10-15%.
So your saying the gearbox takes 100hp in heat? Wow, are you sure?
@@yogeshd5872 dyno numbers are at the wheels usually but this one seems to adjust for generic drivetrain loss to estimate crankpower. Stock 2.0L WRX has 220 at the crank when new, this one is worn and that afjustment might be off to actual parasitic loss going on.
Either way they wouldnt see 215hp result from stock.
If it adjusts(which seems to) then final 304hp is still the crank power and whp is probably arond 215 ironicly. While stock whp would be around 150-160 horsepower.
So not exactly 100hp less but more like 30% of power deducted from result is what makes it to the road
Is that a Lotus Europa in the back of the garage?Favourite episode of the series so far.
Yes it is
As someone who came to own a Subaru 2 years ago, and has done most all needed maintenance repairs on my own, I laughed watching this. I've come to learn there's nothing simple with a Subaru. Want to rotate your tires? Be ready for a seized wheel stud. No worries, I just need to temporarily remove the brake caliper to pull the rotor, giving me access to the broken stud. What's that?! One of the bolts holding the caliper also snapped?
It's been 2 years of...joy?
The editing makes it look like Will was initially slacking off and then gently coaxed into wrenching with a box of donuts next to the car lol
Get a bigger turbo a front mount intercooler upgraded all the intake piping to larger piping like 2 inch or 2 1/2 inch Maybe recommend upgrading the axles if you’re going for bigger power to
Surrey Rolling Roads are great, know their stuff too.
Gave them a list of my nods and they were pretty much spot on with their guess.
Put the vf48 turbo and the sti intercooler very cost efficient and works really good for track and then use the other bit of money for a 4:44 diff with the 5 speed transmission
Surprised you didn’t do a vf series STi turbo (not sure if yours comes with the td04 or not, in the USA it does) but we can find STi vf series in the USA used for 500-600 bucks, which would be a huge update.
Anyway. Love this series
Will looks like a Klingon with that bandage on his head. 🤣
That's pretty solid numbers for using a top mount intercooler I stead of a front mount
Awesome, my favourite episode so far. I kinda hope that you don't QUITE beat the Lambo, so big turbo and intercooler gets done. It's actually turning into quite a car!
I'm glad they included the cost of a new map in the $2,000. Most other channels include it after the fact
Vent mounts are great, unless you need the heating on, you know heating up your phone while charging it …
Yes I’ve been waiting for this for ages. One of the best RUclips series I’ve found, so glad I found your channel!
That little oil hose at the bottom of the turbo is a right PITA to get connected and clipped on properly. One of those jobs that needs miniscule hands and tools that haven't been invented yet.
Oh that is a Very Nice subi sound, makes me wish I'd gotten one!
Oh jeez, the fact you guys pulled the entire turbo off just to remove the uppipe was such a huge waste of time. All you have to do is pull the motor mount bolts and loosen the driver side ones. Then jack the end up a few inches to give you the room to remove the uppipe.
Awesome, definitely one of my favorite car related RUclips series I’ve seen in a while. Keep it up!
"Give me oil in my subaru, keep me burning" gave me severe church kid flashbacks.
Not enough vaping happened in this video
This whole series is like a wierd "mirror" of everything Ive done/plan to do with my black 5spd, 05 Saab 92x aero "Saabaru".. (wrx wagon). It already has a Cobb "stg 2" turbo-back exhaust & Access port tune. But I plan to set it up for AutoX/track driving as well. And just like them, my factory clutch is almost dead at 180k miles lol, I'm going to get the exact same BC coilovers, vinyl wrap it black, get new rims & tires, big brakes, upgraded cooling/oiling, possibly strip out some of the interior & extra sound-deadening (but not everything like them), and I also have an exhaust leak. There's several other things that are weirdly identical to them from earlier videos.. I can't remember all of it though. But awesome series getting to see this done on the same car as mine.. helps me decide what to buy🤘
It's awesome hearing UK guys talking about inches for the exhaust.