They definitely need to look after their players first, and I think they’ve been doing a great job of that recently! I’m a big fan of how they treat their collectors as well so I disagree with you there. I definitely consider myself an investor, and I think investors provide value to the market as well, but I don’t think Pokémon needs to cater to them at all: serving the collector market is serving the investor market. Anyway, we can agree to disagree 😊 Thanks for watching! You gonna buying these? I would think players couldn’t care less about these boxes unless they’re cheap enough to give a good value per pack for ripping?
@@tcgbuyersclub I don't think the investor and collector persona overlap much. For this specifically, you need to say its a specific type of collector, sealed collector, for it to hold merit. Furthermore, collectors themselves fall into many categories; promo, full art, I collect ex era stamped cards, PSA, shiny, ect. Not many if any of these focus on value. What you've done is have a collusion (these UPCs dont appreciate in value at the same rate as prior version) and try to justify that any way you can.
To me, where the investor and collector overlap is they’re both generally looking for the same things, since the investor is basically looking for something collectors will value in the future. If Pokémon makes great products collectors want, that’s really all the investor needs. I appreciate what you’re saying though, so thanks for watching and for the comment 😊
The pokemon company's goal should be to create a healthy gaming environment, which is what those products are attempting to do. This video's criticism is based on the investors' perspective that pokemon should create products that will generate them returns. Collectors and investors are not the same. Some can be both, but collecting is not always about what produces the highest return, while investors' sole purpose is to exploit a market inefficiency in their favor. So if pokemon is not creating products that generate wealth for investors, I would argue that they are doing a fantastic job. So long as the player and collect base (non-investing) is content with the quality.
@MathCrazyProfessor I actually agree with this, except I think investors and collectors ultimately want the same thing, it’s just that an investor will throw more resources behind buying additional copies (of products or cards) because they absolutely plan to sell those extras in the future. I absolutely agree that catering to the players and collectors is the right focus for the company 😊
I don’t disagree with you;l: I love the game! But these products don’t serve the game at all, other than providing access to promo copies of Terapagos ex, which is clearly going to be very powerful. They should have made a normal collection box however, not a UPC. Just my take, thanks for watching!
You did skip over the whole trading card part of it, resellers don't care they only care about profits and collectors aren't "big mad" for pointing out the fact the sets they like to collect aren't as good as the previous sets, it's just an observation.
I don’t think I’m saying it shouldn’t be cheap and affordable! I’m saying that if they’re gonna make a “premium” product with this MSRP price, it should be special. I think these products will get very cheap and very affordable, at which point it’ll be a great buy to rip! But I think it’s a rip off at the MSRP price and just lazy product work. That’s not the right starting point for building a long-term collector base. Thanks for watching and commenting though! 🙇♂️
Oh man, I'm so glad that yt algo showed me this video in proposed, instant sub. I recently got back into PTCG and was about to preorder 2 of terapagos upc - one to open and one to keep for future. Your vid let me to look at it from different perspective so now I'm getting none of those and instead enjoy opening Surging Sparks packs :)
What's interesting is no one really knows how these things are dreamt up. Is there a UPC department? Are certain artist's contracted to get x # of their cards printed? With how big Pokemon is, and all the subcontractor's and management involved, these things seem like a result of a company filled with bureaucracy, rather than decision makers.
Totally! The entire business is set up to translate the cards from Japan, and then figure out the products to include them in. I’m of the opinion there’s really no reason to change the sets from the Japanese versions, but a big portion of the company must be people who’s sole job is to do that 😅
Kinda crazy for how big a company pokemon is, and how many years of product they have released that they still make mistakes like the pokemon go set, or shrouded fable or these things. I think one of their biggest flaws is their judgment of when to use fan favorites. They will do charizard 3 sets in a row and then do a set with fezandipiti and Persian as the chase cards and just let the thing sit on their website for years. I get that they want every pokemon to be equally popular, it helps increases sales overall, but they often fail to strike the perfect line. Best sets I can recall in recent memory are paldea evolved and chilling reign. Good use of new and fan favs to give everyone a lot to love. Someone got fired over Pokémon go releasing when it did, and I have a feeling these things may take a while to clear out. We can hope. That way Pokemon can learn.
I was pretty excited for the Stellar Crown UPC. I like the two gold cards, they aren’t the best but not bad for me. But it’s a mix of packs, instead of all stellar crowns. Now I’m like… ehhh meh probably pass. I like the Mew 151 collection, that for me should be the baseline. If you can’t meet that level, maybe don’t do the UPC.
That’s what I think. Of course, if you like the promos: go for it! I’m guessing there will be a deal on it in a couple months but it’s no biggie to buy it if you like it. I just think it was dumb to create this product. They should have just done nothing in my opinion 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching!
Hey StinkyUPC lol. It’s not a love or hate thing here but I really do like the UPCs it’s different and we don’t always get one unless it’s a specialty set. So yup I buy them when I see them.
That’s fair! If you want any of the extras they are fun to buy and open. I’m just keeping my eye on the Pokemon Company taking advantage of the community’s love for “premium” products. That being said, since I recorded this video we do seem to be entering quite a booming market. If supply is low for everything on the market, these might end up being good buys if they’re available, just because they’re available 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching!! 🙏
I will definetly skip them i wait and see what januari brings, but if the prices keep going upp than i just stop buying completely and maybe make my own Cards^^.
Stinky UPC, great video and i think the points you made are valid and i hope the pokemon company changes their focus from profit to actually make collectors satisfied for what they are getting for the price.
When it comes to UPCs, I started with the 25th anniversary and went from there. I buy 2 of each. 1 to open and enjoy and the other for MY personal sealed collection just so I can look at it like a nerd for the next 60 years lol, it’s not for monetary ROI. But I do go for quality and uniqueness. These new UPCs look….uninspired…might pass on them.
I also started with the 25th anniversary 😊 I got lucky and managed to get one at MSRP from the Pokémon Center! After that, I bought a few too many Charizard UPCs before they hit their bottom price 😂 I always thought it was a great product though, and don’t mind holding on to them for a while. The only one I have on display though is the 25th because that set was really important to me. From a sealed perspective I actually like the new UPCs! But that’s obviously personal opinion. Thanks so much for watching 🙏
I started collecting again in late 2020 and learned how to play in 2021! I entered my first regionals in Toronto last year as well 😊 I haven’t kept up with the competitive meta since then though - making videos takes up pretty much all my free time 😅 Thanks for watching!!
Stinky UPC, as a dad with kids who absolutely love Pokemon, I’m glad these products are widely available. It really sucks trying to find these cards after investors snatch up all the products, reselling them for twice the price. It may be profitable for them, but it sucks for everyone else. There’s always two sides to a coin.
I totally agree! I’m not suggesting these should be scarce, I just think they’re lazy product design that doesn’t hold up to previous UPCs. The good news is that I’m anticipating these will get pretty cheap and, at a lower price, may actually be a good buy 😊 Thanks for watching till the end 🙏
I think I get the spirit of this video. Not every product is going to be for everybody, and investors need to understand WHY certain products from certain product lines are valuable. I just took another look at the box after this video... They don't even give you all Stellar Crown?! what a fkin RIP!!! LOL like I need more Paradox Rift... STINKY UPC ;)
Ahaha, stinky indeed. Thanks for watching till the end 😊 I just think this is a bad product for everyone. I suppose for players they can get a copy of Terapagos ex, which is looking super strong, but if they wanted to make that card more accessible, there are better ways and a $120 box. But, I’m also just a grumpy boy sometimes 😂
@@tcgbuyersclub ahaha we like grumpy. You are welcome for the views! I’m newly back in, so it helps to have more product context. I’m not much a singles guy, so a set really has to line up well for me! The Tera box at least has the “Ooo shiny!” factor, but I have definitely seen a lot of complaints about the Greninja promos
@ItsFinigan Yeah, I think the Terapagos box is quite a bit better than the Greninja promos, but I still wish it was better or simply didn’t exist. I’m also not much of a singles guy, so you’re in the right place! I still love the cards, and have a particular fondness for great promo cards, but I mainly just collect sealed boxes 😅 Reach out any time if there’s anything I can do to help you out! 💪
Stinky UPC. I think you hit the nail on the head with the problem of TPCI. They're too far separated from Creatures and the Pokemon parent company. These could have been cool(ish), but they have the other problem of just pushing too many collection boxes, too many sets, too much for anyone to really "catch 'em all."
Exactly! I have so much respect for Creatures and the approach the Japanese business takes with their set and product design. TCPI is a mess in my opinion. Thanks for watching till the end 💪
Right?! The 151 is an awesome product: the promos + metal card are great, the pile of 151 packs is amazing, and that stitched playmat is wonderful! They should really focus on maintaining that standard in my opinion. Thanks for watching 🙏
Even though alot of effort has gone into making these UPCs ita feels like its not the same people doing the planning as previous UPCs but i suppose they are catering to diffrent tastes.
STINKY UPC Unfortunately with the new wave of post-covid scalpers/collectors, I think the audience most susceptible to buying these "hype" premium products is growing rapidly, and I completely agree that they SHOULD be releasing products that are of the quality of the Charizard UPC or even further in the past the XY collection boxes that had the most incredibly designed cards like N alt art, which made the boxes special. But unfortunately the newer community of card collectors will most likely continue purchasing these boxes just because they're the shiny new thing, and probably haven't seen the quality and thought that went to creating older collection boxes, so in the end the quality of the boxes will continue to fall as there will always be a demand for collection boxes
Thanks for watching till the end 🙏 This is an interesting perspective: maybe there are too many folks who don’t know how good some of the old products were? But also: we get the incredible Greninja and Kingdra promos as part of cheap Shrouded Fable collection boxes? It’s so random!! 😅
Stinky UPCs. I just hopped into the hobby since 151. I cant say I have fomo from the past sets, but I see what I've missed... it is what it is though, Ill just have to start collecting backwards lolol
Welcome!! I love that 151 has brought new collectors like yourself to the hobby 😊 When I got back into the hobby it was when Sword & Shield sets were relatively new, and I also chose to ignore everything before that era started. When you’re just getting started, you need to draw a line like that to keep yourself sane 😊 If you have any other questions or there’s anything I can do to help you on your journey don’t hesitate to ask! And thanks for watching 🙇♂️
Stinky UPCs. Just to clarify from the start: I buy pokemon products to open. I dont keep anything sealed to look at a box later, i dont "invest", etc. Im drawn to these boxes if they deliver a good value for money. I can always buy the promo later on Cardmarket if the value is bad (I have a binder for promos specifically). So for me, The greninja I have no interest in; the Value seems so low. The other one I do, because the promos seem gorgeous, but only if the price drops somewhat, I rarely almost never buy pokemon tcg products at msrp. I for one am very glad that they overprint these upcs. Still havent got my hands on a 151 upc, or other 151 products for that matter. That set is ultra expensive.
Thanks for watching 😊 And I hope you will eventually find some cheap 151 to add to your collection! Here in Canada, Costco recently had the 151 UPCs below MSRP so I picked up a couple!! And I’m still holding out for a reprint of English 151 but I have no idea if it’ll happen 😅 I have no doubt you’ll be able to buy the promos from the Terapagos UPC for real cheap in a couple months! And if you like them, I certainly can’t blame you. I personally have an aversion to anything illustrated by 5ban, so they’re really not for me. Thanks again!! 😊
I wanted the charizard and mew upc's becouse of the promo's but these I just don't want becouse the price per pack is to high and i'm not tetting good promo's. stinky upc's.😅
I like the UPC it’s different and adds collectibility of the hobby but I agree not when it’s a generic card inside. I’ll just buy those as singles once it’s been on the market for a while.
Yeah I’m a little dramatic at times but at the end of the day I also like UPCs, I just think these two new ones are bad. Some people probably dig them and hopefully they’ll be cheap in the future! At the right price it’ll still be fun to open 😊
Promo's are crap but , the moment 1 or 2 of those sets in side go to the moon the upc becomes a nice product with some decent packs inside. For now though it's crap , to big to store and to much money. I did like the 151 upc much more and i hope there gonna do a rocket version.
This is a good insight: the packs inside are all pretty solid and I’m bullish on the SV era in general, so when the packs go up the value of these sealed UPCs will also rise. I just think there’s a low floor price for these products before they happens 😊
STINKY UPC! 😂 Seriously i'm new in the pokemon card collecting. I bought some sealed booster box but I crack open some too. I'm happy that I didnt buy those UPC lol
Hey, welcome!! 👋😊 Although Pokemom has a similar feel sometimes, an important difference between the junk wax era of sports cards is that there were multiple companies all printing cards of the same players and saturating the market several times over! Pokemon makes some dumb stuff, but at least it’s only one company’s output 😅 Thanks for watching till the end 🙌
They are good for kids I don't think it's a problem they make some good ones and some random ones that will sit on shelves and get discounted and be a birthday present we still have amazing chases the best artwork ever I don't think it's a major issue
I disagree: the Japanese business does great, and the products are popular with children, without creating this kind of garbage product. We can agree to disagree though, thanks for watching 😊
Only way they will stop making these stinky UPCs is if they don’t sell. But people ALWAYS buy them. Charizard isn’t in stores or in Pokémon center . Neither is celebration, Arceus, MewPC. All only available on secondary market. Buying it encourages them to make more, so we can cut it off here if we don’t buy it. It should have ended with the Arceus box, but it didn’t. So now we are here, and if they sell out again, that proves to Pokémon the idea is good, the effort is no longer needed. Sucks.
Thank you for the codeword 😂 See I really like the UPCs as a product, but only when they actually have worthwhile promos! I don’t love that they keep stealing some of the best hits from other sets to make UPCs 😭 I really want these lazy premium products to stop though 🤞
Stinky upc. I just got into Pokémon for fun to try an hit a big card so far I’ve spend a lot lol a little too much . But I love this game since a kid I’m 25 with a 1 year old
Hey, that’s awesome welcome back 😊 We’ve all “spent a little too much” from time to time in this hobby 😅 The key is not to burn yourself out and play the long game: over enough time you’re bound to pull something amazing!! 🫡
I bought the 151 collection soley for the promos and mass quantity of 151 packs when the set was difficult to find. When I get a collection box I expect JUST that set and not a couple with more of the previous sets that we've had for so long and tired of seeing. Why bother getting if the promo's I can get in a regular pack making them not special.
I get that perspective for sure, and that’s definitely one of the great things about the 151 UPC! That being said: I don’t think the Charizard UPC is bad because it has a variety of SwSh packs 😊 Thanks for watching!!
They don’t make anything off secondary market collector demand. They HAVE to make trash otherwise every set would be ultra rare and then the “fun” factor is gone. Let them make the money, let them make some trash, and every now and then they will make a banger so great it’s destined for success. The entire trick is knowing ahead of time which sets have amazing potential and which are likely to be long term bombs. And if you can’t tell the difference? Maybe you should become a ninja
They totally don’t make anything off the secondary market, but I think selling crap like this hurts all the vendors who will be forced to buy these from wholesalers who are desperate to move them and need to force their customers into it. Not great either! Thanks for watching and for the comment 😊
@@tcgbuyersclub Yes; MAJOR downside to being a vendor! BUT the vendor DOES get to capture that secondary market demand. All trash = no fun, all bangers = no fun, but a perfect balance of trash to bangers = fun and HIGHLY profitable...especially for vendors! Let's hope that calling the trash trash helps nudge them into another banger set!
Big shift in their product rollouts since SV. You can tell they're trying to recreate the magic of HF etc. but the products are so far off, definitely feels phony.
Yeah, although in my opinion, all the different collection boxes and random products they pump out that aren’t just booster boxes have always felt silly to me. I really respect the Japanese business for mainly selling booster boxes and packs, and mixing in a relatively small number of special boxes and other products. I think the Pokémon Company International is full of a bunch of people doing pointless product work to justify their jobs 😂 Thanks for watching! 🙏
Haha, thanks for dropping the codeword 😎 It’s true the product should still appreciate over time along with the packs inside it! I just think they should reserve the UPC product type for when they have truly special cards to include as promos. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
Sorry but calling out pokemon for these UPCs while having evolving skies ETBs on your shelf and complaining about the promos being bad is kinda silly. Also referencing one highly succesful UPC like its scalping but then the rest get printed into the ground. Just seems like you don't like these boxes
I’m not sure I understand the comparison to Evolving Skies but thanks for watching! I don’t think I used the term “scalping” did I? Either way, you’re correct that I don’t like these boxes. If you do, then buy all of them you want 😊
Man these stinky upc’s are just getting worse and worse, i was really hoping for better promos in the stellar crown set than that. They don’t even match the theme of the set
@@tcgbuyersclub I think you should consider that the UPC are something for those collectors that want to spend money. Them not having great promo cards is better for TCG players because there isn’t a money barrier that’s being created by PC. These seem to just be a way of making a “bulk buy” that much cheaper for someone who may be uninitiated in the world of collecting. If you know you see it as a scam If you don’t you see it as an easy way to get some entertainment out of pulling packs and getting that experience
I love the idea of lots of packs and cool extras! Compared to past UPCs: the extras in these are terrible. I think they have many better ways of accomplishing this without making a bad UPC. That being said, if these get cheap enough then I agree they’ll be fun to open!
Right?! 😩 These boxes feel like the committee just said “UPCs are profitable so make more. I don’t care how just do it!!” 😭 Thanks for watching Corey 😊
As someone who was very involved with pokemon back between 2010-2016(ish). There was similar views to a lot of products we now view as desirable (simply cause of value gain over time). I think the Pokemon Company (PC) always goes through phases of seeing something is being purchased a lot -> overprint product which doesn't meet the standard -> people don't buy it cause its not as good -> PC stops making said products as premium to be able to sell for cheap to get sales (*cough* how common ETBs are nowadays *cough*) -> pokemon company launches new premium product to replace it (how premium collections replaced etbs)
This is a super interesting perspective!! Combine the steps you’ve described with growth in the overall collector base and you can get some crazy price appreciation on previously unloved products. If it’s not clear, I’m fascinated by these kinds of market movements 😍 Thanks for watching and for sharing this!
So true!! In fact, because SV era ETBs all have an Illustration Rare as a promo… I’d argue they’re still better products than these UPCs 😂 Thanks for watching till the end 🤝
I agree 100%. I bought some Stinky UPC's for 151 from Costco. My gf and I opened 2, and we were quite disappointed with the pulls, but that's the luck of the draw, I guess. But the quality of my card matt is garbage (not sown properly causing a bump), and 2 of my packs were warped or not packaged properly. It's like the Quality Control doesn't care either because the product will sell in the end...
@DeadCloud03 May I ask what region or state you live in? I only ask bc Ive had a running theory, that Ive substantiated, that the 151 UPC's that were sent to the West coast or Pacific Northwest, were filled with all the pulls. Batching I guess. Just curious.
Stinky TCG Buyer Club. If the print volume is low and u know u would have purchase 100 sets or more and make a huge gain after few years. Which of that doesn't put yourself into that greedy B***** category? I personally think it's ok with the volume so that prices of card won't be manipulated so much. Do u actually think the first edition zard price is logic? Low volume will ended up gains people who knows how to manipulate like yourself. That said I do agree that the new print is ugly they should put more effort in making better collection but PLS DON'T be greedy and try to profit with manipulation.
ohhh here cmes the end of the world..... why you shouldnt resell pokemon shit. no one in their right mind buy $1000s of pokemon shit. people are nuts, spending a car or mortgage value on cardboard lmao
bro just sounds salty he cant scalp and sell on for profits. the longevity of the game will come from it staying relevant in media not people trying to make a quick dollar. Stop scamming kids scalpers
Pokemon should not cater towards collectors and scalpers. it’s a game, it’s made to be played, not stored away for years to make money
They definitely need to look after their players first, and I think they’ve been doing a great job of that recently!
I’m a big fan of how they treat their collectors as well so I disagree with you there. I definitely consider myself an investor, and I think investors provide value to the market as well, but I don’t think Pokémon needs to cater to them at all: serving the collector market is serving the investor market.
Anyway, we can agree to disagree 😊 Thanks for watching! You gonna buying these? I would think players couldn’t care less about these boxes unless they’re cheap enough to give a good value per pack for ripping?
@@tcgbuyersclub I don't think the investor and collector persona overlap much. For this specifically, you need to say its a specific type of collector, sealed collector, for it to hold merit. Furthermore, collectors themselves fall into many categories; promo, full art, I collect ex era stamped cards, PSA, shiny, ect. Not many if any of these focus on value. What you've done is have a collusion (these UPCs dont appreciate in value at the same rate as prior version) and try to justify that any way you can.
To me, where the investor and collector overlap is they’re both generally looking for the same things, since the investor is basically looking for something collectors will value in the future. If Pokémon makes great products collectors want, that’s really all the investor needs.
I appreciate what you’re saying though, so thanks for watching and for the comment 😊
The pokemon company's goal should be to create a healthy gaming environment, which is what those products are attempting to do. This video's criticism is based on the investors' perspective that pokemon should create products that will generate them returns. Collectors and investors are not the same. Some can be both, but collecting is not always about what produces the highest return, while investors' sole purpose is to exploit a market inefficiency in their favor. So if pokemon is not creating products that generate wealth for investors, I would argue that they are doing a fantastic job. So long as the player and collect base (non-investing) is content with the quality.
@MathCrazyProfessor I actually agree with this, except I think investors and collectors ultimately want the same thing, it’s just that an investor will throw more resources behind buying additional copies (of products or cards) because they absolutely plan to sell those extras in the future.
I absolutely agree that catering to the players and collectors is the right focus for the company 😊
Until we get a Lechonk UPC, I'm holding off..
You’re right: we need this 🙏 Thanks for watching! 🙇♂️
Pokémon is a TCG! Trading Card GAME. A game that should be accessible to players and kids alike. Resellers & collectors are big mad. 😂
I don’t disagree with you;l: I love the game! But these products don’t serve the game at all, other than providing access to promo copies of Terapagos ex, which is clearly going to be very powerful. They should have made a normal collection box however, not a UPC.
Just my take, thanks for watching!
You did skip over the whole trading card part of it, resellers don't care they only care about profits and collectors aren't "big mad" for pointing out the fact the sets they like to collect aren't as good as the previous sets, it's just an observation.
@@xXIamJAEXx you’re big mad
The long term of the hobby is not to buy a house in 10 years. It's to collect and play. Every single card of every set should be cheap and affordable.
I don’t think I’m saying it shouldn’t be cheap and affordable! I’m saying that if they’re gonna make a “premium” product with this MSRP price, it should be special.
I think these products will get very cheap and very affordable, at which point it’ll be a great buy to rip!
But I think it’s a rip off at the MSRP price and just lazy product work. That’s not the right starting point for building a long-term collector base.
Thanks for watching and commenting though! 🙇♂️
Oh man, I'm so glad that yt algo showed me this video in proposed, instant sub. I recently got back into PTCG and was about to preorder 2 of terapagos upc - one to open and one to keep for future. Your vid let me to look at it from different perspective so now I'm getting none of those and instead enjoy opening Surging Sparks packs :)
I’m so glad I could help, thanks for watching and for the support 🙏
Agree. Doing the same.
Nice 🫶 Thanks for watching!!
What's interesting is no one really knows how these things are dreamt up. Is there a UPC department? Are certain artist's contracted to get x # of their cards printed? With how big Pokemon is, and all the subcontractor's and management involved, these things seem like a result of a company filled with bureaucracy, rather than decision makers.
Totally! The entire business is set up to translate the cards from Japan, and then figure out the products to include them in. I’m of the opinion there’s really no reason to change the sets from the Japanese versions, but a big portion of the company must be people who’s sole job is to do that 😅
Kinda crazy for how big a company pokemon is, and how many years of product they have released that they still make mistakes like the pokemon go set, or shrouded fable or these things. I think one of their biggest flaws is their judgment of when to use fan favorites. They will do charizard 3 sets in a row and then do a set with fezandipiti and Persian as the chase cards and just let the thing sit on their website for years. I get that they want every pokemon to be equally popular, it helps increases sales overall, but they often fail to strike the perfect line. Best sets I can recall in recent memory are paldea evolved and chilling reign. Good use of new and fan favs to give everyone a lot to love. Someone got fired over Pokémon go releasing when it did, and I have a feeling these things may take a while to clear out. We can hope. That way Pokemon can learn.
Yeah they really need to be punished sometimes 😂 We’ll see what happens with these!
I was pretty excited for the Stellar Crown UPC. I like the two gold cards, they aren’t the best but not bad for me. But it’s a mix of packs, instead of all stellar crowns. Now I’m like… ehhh meh probably pass. I like the Mew 151 collection, that for me should be the baseline. If you can’t meet that level, maybe don’t do the UPC.
That’s what I think. Of course, if you like the promos: go for it! I’m guessing there will be a deal on it in a couple months but it’s no biggie to buy it if you like it.
I just think it was dumb to create this product. They should have just done nothing in my opinion 🤷♂️
Thanks for watching!
Hey StinkyUPC lol. It’s not a love or hate thing here but I really do like the UPCs it’s different and we don’t always get one unless it’s a specialty set. So yup I buy them when I see them.
That’s fair! If you want any of the extras they are fun to buy and open. I’m just keeping my eye on the Pokemon Company taking advantage of the community’s love for “premium” products.
That being said, since I recorded this video we do seem to be entering quite a booming market. If supply is low for everything on the market, these might end up being good buys if they’re available, just because they’re available 🤷♂️
Thanks for watching!! 🙏
@ I also have a daughter that loves the UPCs so I have to support her Pokemon habit also so might as well buy buy buy lol
Aw, thanks nice that you can share the hobby with her 😊 Enjoy!!
I will definetly skip them i wait and see what januari brings, but if the prices keep going upp than i just stop buying completely and maybe make my own Cards^^.
Whoooa, make your own cards?! I’d love to see them if you do! Customs can be so fun 😊 Thanks for watching!
Stinky UPC, great video and i think the points you made are valid and i hope the pokemon company changes their focus from profit to actually make collectors satisfied for what they are getting for the price.
I’m glad you liked it! Thanks for watching 🙏
When it comes to UPCs, I started with the 25th anniversary and went from there. I buy 2 of each. 1 to open and enjoy and the other for MY personal sealed collection just so I can look at it like a nerd for the next 60 years lol, it’s not for monetary ROI. But I do go for quality and uniqueness. These new UPCs look….uninspired…might pass on them.
I also started with the 25th anniversary 😊 I got lucky and managed to get one at MSRP from the Pokémon Center!
After that, I bought a few too many Charizard UPCs before they hit their bottom price 😂 I always thought it was a great product though, and don’t mind holding on to them for a while.
The only one I have on display though is the 25th because that set was really important to me. From a sealed perspective I actually like the new UPCs! But that’s obviously personal opinion.
Thanks so much for watching 🙏
great video! I’ve been feeling the same way
I’m glad you liked it, and that I’m not alone 😅 Thanks for watching!
Stinky UPCs lol, definitely skipping these. Great video!
Thanks for watching till the end 😊🙇♂️
I’ll pass on these stinky upcs. Sick kallax Pokémon display bro! Would love to see a video on that! Love the content man!
Thanks so much for watching and great idea! Maybe one day I’ll take a closer look at my display 😊
How long have you been in the pokemon TCG? Do you play as well as collect?
I started collecting again in late 2020 and learned how to play in 2021! I entered my first regionals in Toronto last year as well 😊
I haven’t kept up with the competitive meta since then though - making videos takes up pretty much all my free time 😅
Thanks for watching!!
Stinky UPC, as a dad with kids who absolutely love Pokemon, I’m glad these products are widely available. It really sucks trying to find these cards after investors snatch up all the products, reselling them for twice the price. It may be profitable for them, but it sucks for everyone else. There’s always two sides to a coin.
I totally agree! I’m not suggesting these should be scarce, I just think they’re lazy product design that doesn’t hold up to previous UPCs.
The good news is that I’m anticipating these will get pretty cheap and, at a lower price, may actually be a good buy 😊
Thanks for watching till the end 🙏
I think I get the spirit of this video. Not every product is going to be for everybody, and investors need to understand WHY certain products from certain product lines are valuable.
I just took another look at the box after this video... They don't even give you all Stellar Crown?! what a fkin RIP!!! LOL like I need more Paradox Rift...
STINKY UPC ;)
Ahaha, stinky indeed. Thanks for watching till the end 😊
I just think this is a bad product for everyone. I suppose for players they can get a copy of Terapagos ex, which is looking super strong, but if they wanted to make that card more accessible, there are better ways and a $120 box.
But, I’m also just a grumpy boy sometimes 😂
@@tcgbuyersclub ahaha we like grumpy. You are welcome for the views! I’m newly back in, so it helps to have more product context. I’m not much a singles guy, so a set really has to line up well for me!
The Tera box at least has the “Ooo shiny!” factor, but I have definitely seen a lot of complaints about the Greninja promos
@ItsFinigan Yeah, I think the Terapagos box is quite a bit better than the Greninja promos, but I still wish it was better or simply didn’t exist.
I’m also not much of a singles guy, so you’re in the right place! I still love the cards, and have a particular fondness for great promo cards, but I mainly just collect sealed boxes 😅
Reach out any time if there’s anything I can do to help you out! 💪
Stinky UPC. I think you hit the nail on the head with the problem of TPCI. They're too far separated from Creatures and the Pokemon parent company. These could have been cool(ish), but they have the other problem of just pushing too many collection boxes, too many sets, too much for anyone to really "catch 'em all."
Exactly! I have so much respect for Creatures and the approach the Japanese business takes with their set and product design. TCPI is a mess in my opinion.
Thanks for watching till the end 💪
Love the UPC 151 great value for people not only looking for boosters
Right?! The 151 is an awesome product: the promos + metal card are great, the pile of 151 packs is amazing, and that stitched playmat is wonderful! They should really focus on maintaining that standard in my opinion.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Do remember, this is a kids hobby
And I’ve been participating since I was one 😉 Thanks for watching!
Even though alot of effort has gone into making these UPCs ita feels like its not the same people doing the planning as previous UPCs but i suppose they are catering to diffrent tastes.
These are definitely catering to different tastes than mine 😢 Thanks for watching!!
STINKY UPC
Unfortunately with the new wave of post-covid scalpers/collectors, I think the audience most susceptible to buying these "hype" premium products is growing rapidly, and I completely agree that they SHOULD be releasing products that are of the quality of the Charizard UPC or even further in the past the XY collection boxes that had the most incredibly designed cards like N alt art, which made the boxes special. But unfortunately the newer community of card collectors will most likely continue purchasing these boxes just because they're the shiny new thing, and probably haven't seen the quality and thought that went to creating older collection boxes, so in the end the quality of the boxes will continue to fall as there will always be a demand for collection boxes
Thanks for watching till the end 🙏 This is an interesting perspective: maybe there are too many folks who don’t know how good some of the old products were?
But also: we get the incredible Greninja and Kingdra promos as part of cheap Shrouded Fable collection boxes?
It’s so random!! 😅
Stinky UPCs. I just hopped into the hobby since 151. I cant say I have fomo from the past sets, but I see what I've missed... it is what it is though, Ill just have to start collecting backwards lolol
Welcome!! I love that 151 has brought new collectors like yourself to the hobby 😊 When I got back into the hobby it was when Sword & Shield sets were relatively new, and I also chose to ignore everything before that era started. When you’re just getting started, you need to draw a line like that to keep yourself sane 😊
If you have any other questions or there’s anything I can do to help you on your journey don’t hesitate to ask!
And thanks for watching 🙇♂️
Stinky UPCs. Just to clarify from the start: I buy pokemon products to open. I dont keep anything sealed to look at a box later, i dont "invest", etc. Im drawn to these boxes if they deliver a good value for money. I can always buy the promo later on Cardmarket if the value is bad (I have a binder for promos specifically). So for me, The greninja I have no interest in; the Value seems so low. The other one I do, because the promos seem gorgeous, but only if the price drops somewhat, I rarely almost never buy pokemon tcg products at msrp.
I for one am very glad that they overprint these upcs. Still havent got my hands on a 151 upc, or other 151 products for that matter. That set is ultra expensive.
Thanks for watching 😊 And I hope you will eventually find some cheap 151 to add to your collection! Here in Canada, Costco recently had the 151 UPCs below MSRP so I picked up a couple!! And I’m still holding out for a reprint of English 151 but I have no idea if it’ll happen 😅
I have no doubt you’ll be able to buy the promos from the Terapagos UPC for real cheap in a couple months! And if you like them, I certainly can’t blame you. I personally have an aversion to anything illustrated by 5ban, so they’re really not for me.
Thanks again!! 😊
I wanted the charizard and mew upc's becouse of the promo's but these I just don't want becouse the price per pack is to high and i'm not tetting good promo's. stinky upc's.😅
Thanks for watching! Stinky UPCs indeed 😭
I like the UPC it’s different and adds collectibility of the hobby but I agree not when it’s a generic card inside. I’ll just buy those as singles once it’s been on the market for a while.
Yeah I’m a little dramatic at times but at the end of the day I also like UPCs, I just think these two new ones are bad. Some people probably dig them and hopefully they’ll be cheap in the future! At the right price it’ll still be fun to open 😊
Promo's are crap but , the moment 1 or 2 of those sets in side go to the moon the upc becomes a nice product with some decent packs inside.
For now though it's crap , to big to store and to much money. I did like the 151 upc much more and i hope there gonna do a rocket version.
This is a good insight: the packs inside are all pretty solid and I’m bullish on the SV era in general, so when the packs go up the value of these sealed UPCs will also rise.
I just think there’s a low floor price for these products before they happens 😊
STINKY UPC! 😂
Seriously i'm new in the pokemon card collecting. I bought some sealed booster box but I crack open some too. I'm happy that I didnt buy those UPC lol
Thank you for watching till the end 💪 And, just give these time and they might get real cheap. At low prices some products become worth it 😊
Stinky UPC. 😂 just getting into this whole investing thing. Reminds me of the junk wax in baseball cards in the late 80s early 90s.
Hey, welcome!! 👋😊 Although Pokemom has a similar feel sometimes, an important difference between the junk wax era of sports cards is that there were multiple companies all printing cards of the same players and saturating the market several times over!
Pokemon makes some dumb stuff, but at least it’s only one company’s output 😅
Thanks for watching till the end 🙌
They are good for kids I don't think it's a problem they make some good ones and some random ones that will sit on shelves and get discounted and be a birthday present we still have amazing chases the best artwork ever I don't think it's a major issue
I disagree: the Japanese business does great, and the products are popular with children, without creating this kind of garbage product. We can agree to disagree though, thanks for watching 😊
Only way they will stop making these stinky UPCs is if they don’t sell. But people ALWAYS buy them. Charizard isn’t in stores or in Pokémon center . Neither is celebration, Arceus, MewPC. All only available on secondary market. Buying it encourages them to make more, so we can cut it off here if we don’t buy it. It should have ended with the Arceus box, but it didn’t. So now we are here, and if they sell out again, that proves to Pokémon the idea is good, the effort is no longer needed. Sucks.
Thank you for the codeword 😂 See I really like the UPCs as a product, but only when they actually have worthwhile promos! I don’t love that they keep stealing some of the best hits from other sets to make UPCs 😭 I really want these lazy premium products to stop though 🤞
Stinky upc. I just got into Pokémon for fun to try an hit a big card so far I’ve spend a lot lol a little too much . But I love this game since a kid I’m 25 with a 1 year old
Hey, that’s awesome welcome back 😊 We’ve all “spent a little too much” from time to time in this hobby 😅 The key is not to burn yourself out and play the long game: over enough time you’re bound to pull something amazing!! 🫡
I bought the 151 collection soley for the promos and mass quantity of 151 packs when the set was difficult to find. When I get a collection box I expect JUST that set and not a couple with more of the previous sets that we've had for so long and tired of seeing. Why bother getting if the promo's I can get in a regular pack making them not special.
I get that perspective for sure, and that’s definitely one of the great things about the 151 UPC! That being said: I don’t think the Charizard UPC is bad because it has a variety of SwSh packs 😊
Thanks for watching!!
They don’t make anything off secondary market collector demand. They HAVE to make trash otherwise every set would be ultra rare and then the “fun” factor is gone. Let them make the money, let them make some trash, and every now and then they will make a banger so great it’s destined for success. The entire trick is knowing ahead of time which sets have amazing potential and which are likely to be long term bombs. And if you can’t tell the difference? Maybe you should become a ninja
They totally don’t make anything off the secondary market, but I think selling crap like this hurts all the vendors who will be forced to buy these from wholesalers who are desperate to move them and need to force their customers into it. Not great either!
Thanks for watching and for the comment 😊
@@tcgbuyersclub Yes; MAJOR downside to being a vendor! BUT the vendor DOES get to capture that secondary market demand. All trash = no fun, all bangers = no fun, but a perfect balance of trash to bangers = fun and HIGHLY profitable...especially for vendors! Let's hope that calling the trash trash helps nudge them into another banger set!
@VintagePokemonCardValues ahaha ok, fair: maybe we need some trash to balance out the good products in the hobby 😂🫡
@@tcgbuyersclub exactly! And todays trash is tomorrows “man I wish I woulda back when I coulda!” Great video btw ;)
@VintagePokemonCardValues thanks for watching 🫡
Big shift in their product rollouts since SV. You can tell they're trying to recreate the magic of HF etc. but the products are so far off, definitely feels phony.
Yeah, although in my opinion, all the different collection boxes and random products they pump out that aren’t just booster boxes have always felt silly to me. I really respect the Japanese business for mainly selling booster boxes and packs, and mixing in a relatively small number of special boxes and other products.
I think the Pokémon Company International is full of a bunch of people doing pointless product work to justify their jobs 😂
Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@tcgbuyersclub Couldnt agree more. great content
Thank you, I really appreciate it 🙇♂️
Stinky upc even when i think its not that worse. They are not great but at the end these boxes go up because the booster inside gets expensive.
Haha, thanks for dropping the codeword 😎 It’s true the product should still appreciate over time along with the packs inside it! I just think they should reserve the UPC product type for when they have truly special cards to include as promos.
Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
what about the 151 upc when is the reprint? i need to buy like 20
Ahaha, good luck 💪 I was able to pick up a couple from Costco recently 😊
Stinky UPC!
Yea these UPC are not great. Hard miss for my collection for sure.
Thanks for watching till the end 🙇♂️
Sorry but calling out pokemon for these UPCs while having evolving skies ETBs on your shelf and complaining about the promos being bad is kinda silly. Also referencing one highly succesful UPC like its scalping but then the rest get printed into the ground. Just seems like you don't like these boxes
I’m not sure I understand the comparison to Evolving Skies but thanks for watching! I don’t think I used the term “scalping” did I? Either way, you’re correct that I don’t like these boxes. If you do, then buy all of them you want 😊
Man these stinky upc’s are just getting worse and worse, i was really hoping for better promos in the stellar crown set than that. They don’t even match the theme of the set
I agree 😭 It’s just lazy product design!! Thanks for watching 😊
So then just call these things out, ensure you warn people they’re a rip off, and encourage people to stay away from them
Thanks for watching 😊 And I will continue to do my best 🫡
@@tcgbuyersclub I think you should consider that the UPC are something for those collectors that want to spend money. Them not having great promo cards is better for TCG players because there isn’t a money barrier that’s being created by PC. These seem to just be a way of making a “bulk buy” that much cheaper for someone who may be uninitiated in the world of collecting. If you know you see it as a scam If you don’t you see it as an easy way to get some entertainment out of pulling packs and getting that experience
Stinky upc.
These aren’t made with you in mind imo. These are made for people who want a lot of packs with some cool extras thrown in.
I love the idea of lots of packs and cool extras! Compared to past UPCs: the extras in these are terrible. I think they have many better ways of accomplishing this without making a bad UPC.
That being said, if these get cheap enough then I agree they’ll be fun to open!
Stinky UPC’s!!!
Thank you for watching 😊
Seems like boxes designed by committee.
Right?! 😩 These boxes feel like the committee just said “UPCs are profitable so make more. I don’t care how just do it!!” 😭
Thanks for watching Corey 😊
Stinky upcs. I totally agree
Thank you for watching till the end 🙇♂️
As someone who was very involved with pokemon back between 2010-2016(ish). There was similar views to a lot of products we now view as desirable (simply cause of value gain over time). I think the Pokemon Company (PC) always goes through phases of seeing something is being purchased a lot -> overprint product which doesn't meet the standard -> people don't buy it cause its not as good -> PC stops making said products as premium to be able to sell for cheap to get sales (*cough* how common ETBs are nowadays *cough*) -> pokemon company launches new premium product to replace it (how premium collections replaced etbs)
This is a super interesting perspective!! Combine the steps you’ve described with growth in the overall collector base and you can get some crazy price appreciation on previously unloved products.
If it’s not clear, I’m fascinated by these kinds of market movements 😍
Thanks for watching and for sharing this!
Stinky UPCs, these latest 2 UPCs look like glorified ETBs
So true!! In fact, because SV era ETBs all have an Illustration Rare as a promo… I’d argue they’re still better products than these UPCs 😂
Thanks for watching till the end 🤝
I agree 100%. I bought some Stinky UPC's for 151 from Costco. My gf and I opened 2, and we were quite disappointed with the pulls, but that's the luck of the draw, I guess. But the quality of my card matt is garbage (not sown properly causing a bump), and 2 of my packs were warped or not packaged properly. It's like the Quality Control doesn't care either because the product will sell in the end...
Oh damn, that’s too bad! I actually like the 151 UPCs but that doesn’t mean you’ll get good hits 😂 Thanks for watching!!
@DeadCloud03 May I ask what region or state you live in? I only ask bc Ive had a running theory, that Ive substantiated, that the 151 UPC's that were sent to the West coast or Pacific Northwest, were filled with all the pulls. Batching I guess. Just curious.
Stinky TCG Buyer Club. If the print volume is low and u know u would have purchase 100 sets or more and make a huge gain after few years. Which of that doesn't put yourself into that greedy B***** category? I personally think it's ok with the volume so that prices of card won't be manipulated so much. Do u actually think the first edition zard price is logic? Low volume will ended up gains people who knows how to manipulate like yourself. That said I do agree that the new print is ugly they should put more effort in making better collection but PLS DON'T be greedy and try to profit with manipulation.
I just want them to make nice promo cards, but thanks for watching 😊
ohhh here cmes the end of the world..... why you shouldnt resell pokemon shit. no one in their right mind buy $1000s of pokemon shit. people are nuts, spending a car or mortgage value on cardboard lmao
Thanks for watching 😊
STINKYUPC 😂😂😂
Thanks for watching till the end 💪
Stinky UPC lol
Thank you for watching will the end 🤝
Stinky upc😅
Thank you for watching till the end 😊
bro just sounds salty he cant scalp and sell on for profits. the longevity of the game will come from it staying relevant in media not people trying to make a quick dollar. Stop scamming kids scalpers
Thanks for watching 😊
With how TPCi does products in general not even surprised
Yeah, it’s true. This is not an isolated incident 😩😭😤
@@tcgbuyersclub it looks pretty standard for TPCi on their part compared to every better looking and quality product that TPC Asia does lol
Stank ass UPCs...nice not to worry about buying these 🧱
Real stank. Thanks for watching!! 🙏