guys, regarding whether this belonged to a child: I thought about this, but after some consideration I think it's less likely than it just having belonged to someone really small. I've examined 1870s photographs and fashion plates of kids and teenagers and here's what I've noticed: 1) Their dresses usually end way above the ankle, around 10 cm below the knees. The crinoline would have to be a little bit shorter than that, which means it would probably reach the knee. Keeping in mind this would be a young girl of a, let's say, 150 cm (4 ft 11) height, the longest crinoline a kid/teenager could wear would have to be around 37 cm. This one is about twice as long. If I wore it, it would probably be the right length for a 14 years old - except I'm a tall-ass grown up, so for an actual 14 years old it might be way too long. 2) The photographs of girls wearing transitional crinolines (around 1870) look like they weren't super wide - and though this one is quite narrow, I still can't imagine a child running around in an almost 2 m (78 in) wide crinoline. Pic: bit.ly/2X9ulxw 3) The back curve (the bottom 3-4 hoops) to me indicates the dress worn over it would be worn with a train/longer skirt, something that is not featured in teen's clothing at the time because, well, it didn't even reach the ground. 4) Petite women were a thing. I've seen Charlotte Bronte's dress, and it looks like it was made for a 10 year old. Queen Victoria was 152 cm (4 ft 11). I've seen stuff in museums that was clearly made for grown ups, but it could barely fit a modern kid. That's also one of the reasons it survived - it was so tiny it couldn't have been worn by other members of the family. THAT BEING SAID it could have been worn by a child, it could've been worn by a teenager, it could've been worn by a small middle-aged man, we will probably never know and when it comes to fashion history, nothing is certain.
Karolina Żebrowska NO! what you have to realize and obviously most of the young people today don’t know about People were considerably smaller even only 100 years ago than they are today mostly because of nutrition You only need to see a replica of the mayflower to see how small it was or to see other pieces of antique clothing to slowly realize there’s nothing of the sizes that we have today from those times because people didn’t get that big, their food and nutrition was entirely different Often in the Victorian era eating meat was something that was done only once a week, and a List of other elements I’m A great fan of vintage and antique clothing and I am over 50 years old, and I’ve had a lot of personal experience With people older than me and with auntie clothing and with people older than me and with antique clothing and the like If you go to a few museums and start looking at anti-clothing you will see how small the adults were at that time they are like children to us today
sonia castaneda oh that’s far from research, it’s just having a look at some pictures. research would be reading contemporary sources, like diaries and magazines, looking a patents, maybe measuring other extant examples, having a look at statistics regarding average measurements. might do it one day but this has to do for now!
I feel like modern bras would be the same as 2150 bras except maybe the ones from 2150 have some kind of fancy scanning tech in them or they're just the same-
I love how collapsable and flexible this crinoline is! You mencioned in a video before that crinolines were thought to be very modern when compared to petitcoats and I can really see this here. A true product of the industrial age! Loved the video, love your channel!
Well, her hair became snakes because it was too beautiful, so I don't think the goddess who turned her this way would give her body hair snakes as well - for they're not considered a seduction weapon
I really appreciate these types of video because it makes the clothing of back then so much more understandable. As a costume maker it's hard to recreate something that I've only seen in pictures or in a museum where you can't touch and turn them (understandable!) but you make them really come to live. Thank you! :-)
Pretty sure she knew that though and was clearly being careful with it. It's nice to see something old get held and used again so long as it's done in a careful manner.
First off, your hair is stunning! Secondly, " I hate having an international audience." Lol But we love you! And you're the most accurate historic RUclipsr I know of! ♥️
These historical pieces are very interesting because they actually kinda mythbust some of the stereotypes mass culture has imposed on them (like the fact that it is actually flexible) and we can see living / and lived in history with the alterations made to it, and the wear and tear. Keep doing such good work!
New to your channel via the Jenna Marbles Victorian Lady video and have to say I find you absolutely delightful. Love your realness in a very artificial world.
My first thought on that crinoline is that it was made for an older child, and was damaged over time (because kids have always been hard on clothes). But then again, I have no idea whether children were wearing crinolines day to day.
I think I would cry for hours if I was given permission to touch something as old as that. Just thinking about the life of the person who’d have worn it makes me emotional. I hope she was happy, whoever she was. 🖤 EDIT: I'm aware that old things are easy to find, I think I maybe misspoke! I just mean that the history of clothing, homes, belongings, etc, is wonderful. I have a brooch from my grandmother that is probably no older than 50 years old but I still think it's wonderful that I'm not the first woman to wear it and appreciate it! Also, there's no need to be so rude about my silly little comment. If you've touched old things, good for you.
:I dno how about anyone else but if i walk down the street or few hours (about 2) I can touch as old and older things? I mean there is so many old houses around in Europe.
@@tomasvrabec1845 - I'm from the US, and you have to remember that out entire *country* is less than 300 years old. When I moved to England, I had an emotional experience when I touched a road, nevermind the castle at the end of the road. My husband and I were on our knees crying and overwhelmed that we could touch such a thing. We then spent every weekend going to castles, cathedrals, churches, stone circles, etc., and we never did take it for granted.
it's really not that hard to find something this old. I have multiple collectibles from the 1840's-60's and I'm not some rich antiques collector, I'm a millennial college drop out. Small things like hairpins and ladies' almanacs are easy to find and quite cheap! If you feel this strongly about it, you should try to find something for yourself.
I'm aware that old things are easy to find, I think I maybe misspoke! I just mean that the history of clothing, homes, belongings, etc, is wonderful. I have a brooch from my grandmother that is probably no older than 50 years old but I still think it's wonderful that I'm not the first woman to wear it and appreciate it!
Seriously? I just touched a newspaper from WWI yesterday. In my early 20s I rented a real Victorian dress, it's not exactly difficult. Maybe you should travel a bit.
What I find cool is that this is constructed very similarly to the base of Adam Savage's Totoro cosplay. It's a nifty technique. Somehow I never realised before that this is how Crinolines were constructed too.
@Thegrandberry Ik, but their cultures have differences and 'Slav' mainly refers to Russians but yes, these other ethnicities count as well. You have a good point anyway so I'll leave it at there. P.S ty for not lashing out and expressing anger :)
The Polish are Germanic, from a genetic, historical, and cultural standpoint. Of course, there's a lot of blending in from both sides (that happens when you're in the middle of a land mass) but the majority are not all that Slavic. Most things are more in line with traditions of old Germania than they are with the culturally establishing empires of northern or western Europe.
YES. Queen Victoria and her stupid white wedding dress. That's the real reason why we wear white at weddings now, you know. Before that blue was worn because that's the color of virginity (Mary is always wearing blue in old painting, that's why!). If women could afford them they'd wear blue wedding dresses, if not, they wore the best outfit they had. So much for "traditional wedding attire."
So true, lol, the whole white dress and fancy party thing was all started to show off how much money you had. A white dress would not be practical to wear regularly, especially not for work(as it would stain easily), so the gesture was really all about showing how you could waste money on a dress you’d never wear again 😂
well no "Countries to Go" red was a very common color in loads of places in Europe, like in Poland and Germany if I'm correct, a color you still see in a lot of Asian coutries been worn as wedding clothing.
It's so exciting to see an original piece from this era! To preserve something well you sometimes do need to do some repairs to make it stable. If you contact a local gallery or museum they will have restorers at conservators who could give you some advice.
Thanks for the close ups its nice to see something like this is such detail. Also It surprised me that it can be so flexible, like it can be bent, adaptable and so easily folded to be keep saved. Like I imagine it was once its original owner wanted to undress to go to sleep
Yeah, that looks like it would fit me. I'm 5 foot nothing with a 23.5-inch waist (34 inches from my waist to the floor), and for almost all of my teenage years I was between 22 and 23 inches, and that's uncorseted. Corseted it would be even smaller. So yeah, extremely petite women exist, and they were slightly more common back then, but even now it's not unfeasible.
it's really interesting, imo!! I am 5'4" and my waist is 22" uncorseted. I buy a lot of vintage clothing and I've found juniors clothing to work best in 40's and 50's pieces (if I don't want to get it altered).
@@Champagne-trash Where do you find vintage clothing that small? I can't find anything with a waist under 24 inches to save my life, and then it's often not made for petite people and can be too long, etc. I'll have to hunt around for specifically Juniors clothing, thanks for the tip!
There’s a place called Via’s Vintage in Minneapolis MN USA that sells high quality vintage pieces. She organizes everything in the store by waist size and has a lot of small pieces. If you can’t go in person she posts a lot on Instagram and Facebook and can sell through there. She said one time that she has a ton of tiny pieces she doesn’t even put out in the store because they can’t be tried on by the vast majority of people without being damaged. I bet she would pull some pieces in your size if you were interested in purchasing 😊
@@danyg1400 People are just insecure. Anytime someone talks of petite women someone has to call them childish and un-womanly. Call it toxic femininity.
Even not petite. When I was 18, I was (and still am) 5’ 6”, with a 24” uncorsetted waist (which it is now very far from). So a slim woman, but maybe one shorter (especially if growing up with less consistent protein/relatively consistent malnutrition).
I am Asian and I can still see ladies in their late teens (17-19) in 149cm height. I am only 157cm myself and I am 17 years old yet my classmates who are a little bit older say I am tall.
@@chevistyles Height is so weird. I'm 185 and I some of my female friends are taller than me whilst others aren't even to my shoulders. The main change came here in Czech Republic mostly after WW2. My grandpa and grandma were both between 155 and 165cm but my father used to be almost 190cm and he was first in our family to be that tall. It has a lot to do with much more meat and just much more calories in his diet when growing up in the 1950s than his parents growing up before or during WW1.
I'm 5' 3" and have a 23 inch (60 cm) waist, so it's not inhumanly small even today. My great-grandmother was shorter than me with the same small bone frame, and her waist was tinier than mine when she was in her 80s.
We have an 1860s corset at work but the hoops are definitely made out of a different kind of metal because they’re pretty stiff. It’s also not in great condition (very very rusty) but seeing the construction of this one with the little metal bits holding the boning into the tapes is fascinating-I’m definitely gonna pull ours back out again and have a closer look!
My best guess about the ghost boning is that the crinoline originally belonged to someone taller, then it was adjusted to fit another person. They removed the boning, cut away part of the vertical bands and then put in place the waistband.
I think this is from the 1870s, maybe altered when the natural form era started and used as a support for trained or even for round skirts. Believe me, even the sleek skirts of the natural form era needs support, or else the weight of the trimmed skirts will collapse at knee level. As for the size, it could fit an adult woman. It would definitely fit my sister (expect the waist, but the waistband sems to be torn, maybe worn out?) and would give a nice shape to her early 1880s dress. It wouldn't fit me, I'm 173 cm tall with a 76 cm corseted waist, but I have no problem to find period patterns to fit me, I don't even have to search for something intended for a pattern aimed at well developed or stout ladis, as it was called. Anyhow, it is a wonderful find, I hope you enjoy it!
gosh, this is so cool! there are no places easily accessible to me where I could see historical garments, so thank you so much for making this video! the crinoline is much lighter than I imagined, never thought all those petticoat layers could be supported by a pretty thin wire
I'm reminded of the Cranford episode where one of the ladies orders what she thinks is a bird cage from Paris; turns out it's a crinoline! she sews cloth to the bottom to keep the bird in and proudly displays her parrot in it's Parisian cage. Eventualy she figures out she's been displaying an undergarment.
I love your content, I find you super charismatic and you seem super passionated about what you do, also I learn a lot watching your videos and they are super entertaining. Love from Argentina
RUclips counts views after a specified time (1 minute I believe, not sure though). People might have liked the video at the beginning of watching (being happy a new video is out), so the likes got counted before the views were.
I often like a video of those I am subscribed to the moment I click it. It keeps me from forgetting to by the end. If they say or do something horrible, I retract the thumbs up, but I can't remember the last time that happened.
Meme mum is best mum, she’s a meme historian, she has seen all the memes, he holds all the knowledge 😦😦SHE WILL TALK OVER THE WORLD WITH THIS MEME KNOWLEDGE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I’m tired ok 😂 Anyways I love your content
Hi. Thank you for making these videos. I feel like i'm learning a lot from them and they are fun to watch and listen to. I studied fashion design and fashion history in undergraduate, but there is so much that the classes couldn't cover.
You are honestly so cute, and I mean that in the best way possible. I love your knowledge of vintage and antique costuming combined with your unique personality and demeanor. Love your videos!
I wonder if the "missing" back hoops were removed due to damage from everyday use. It seems that's the area that would get the most wear from sitting. And then also it was an added bonus that the silhouette was changing so the modification of removing those back hoops was apropriate. Love these videos! Love that you gave the measurements in inches because I had my phone ready to convert it myself lol
So nice to see a video where someone is using measurements I can actually understand instead of just saying inches this and feet that. Anyways interesting video as always!
Idea! I know you've already done a 100 years of Polish fashion video thing, but I would be interested in even older fashion! It would be super cool if you could talk about Polish fashion from, say, middle ages to 1800s, or invite someone who can.
Love this video! About the absence of boning, do you think it would be possible a reason for it to be removed was if a woman was pregnant? I am not at all familiar with "maternal" fashion, but I guess they would alter their clothing to adjust to the woman's changing body. Even if this isn't the case, I think it would be cool to talk about fashion of pregnant woman because I feel there had to be many different styles and tricks seamstresses used to alter/make dresses.
The fact that it was made 150 years ago but still functions like it was supposed to (not warped or broken) blows my mind. Where is that kind of craftsmanship today
Have you read Laura Ingalls Wilder? She wrote this great description. “Then carefully over her under-petticoats she put on her hoops. She liked these new hoops. They were the very latest style in the east, and these were the first of the kind that Miss Bell had got. Instead of wires, there were wide tapes across the front, almost to her knees, holding the petticoats so that her dress would lie flat. These tapes held the wire bustle in place at the back, and it was an adjustable bustle. Short lengths of tape were fastened to either end of it; these could be buckled together underneath the bustle, to puff it out, either large or small. Or they could be buckled together in front, drawing the bustle down close in back, so that a dress rounded smoothly over it. Laura did not like a large bustle, so she buckled the tapes in front.” LIW These Happy Golden Years.
It’d be cool if she does something awesome in historical costumes for the entertainment industry, theater, TV. I show a few of her videos for history class and the students enjoy it.
This was so cool to see! I've seen pictures of similar crinolines but seeing how it moves is an added bonus. It seems like when people make reproduction versions now they tend to use around 7-10 1/2 inch (approximately 1 cm) bones and they just don't look the same.
I'm a historian and a curator and I freaking love old things! Old things get me riled up! And the older the better, like give me things that are pre written history and I'm freaking in heaven!
Please please pretty please do a video about the clothing in outlander, especially season two when they are in France in the early 1740's. I'd die to see you react to it.
"I hate having international following" I LOVED THIS - I was thinking it must be so annoying to stop and figure out the conversion / but i appreciate it. :) Love your channel!
"60cm for someone petite is not a huge deal" Can confirm, I'm 58cm at the waist and I'm the "smolest bean in the room" type (1.58m for 50kg, waist: 58cm, hips: 88cm, with a fairly athletic build). Being a curator and Art restorer, I vividly remember seeing old dresses during one of my internships, the type of dresses that probably wouldn't fit your average teen in our times. However, the other interns kept telling me I was small enough to potentially fit in them. It felt strange but it's true that one of the dresses left me thinking "hey I could wear that" as soon as I saw it exposed on a mannequin.
It was also not too uncommon for the more frugal (at least in North America. Idk about the rest of the world.) To take the least needed boning from preordered crinolines and utilize them into dresses/corsets and other sewing needs. It was also easier to wear a crinoline with those bones taken out during the natural forms fashion times. Also easier while pregnant. And in general for a person who labored physically. I'm fairly short, 5'2 (the '2 counts! Barely but by cheese it counts!lol) and have worn a similar wire hoop support crinoline during a few re-enactment events. The top bones had to go. They bunched up and twisted in and really became a bother when standing at the work table preparing stuff.
I found this so interesting because I'm only 5' tall (150cm) and my waist is about 22"-23" (~58cm) in a corset, but my hips would NOT fit into a traditional crinoline for that waist size, which makes me think that that was why the hoops around the hips (of the mannequin, at least) were removed, either at the time, or by a relative trying to wear it later on.
It was you that inspired me to spend a lot of money on some vintage yearbooks. Thank you meme mom for inspiring me to empty my bank account. No for real though, I just spent $75 on yearbooks from the early 20th century...no regrets.
A thought Karolina, is it possible that it is so small because a very young (our idea of a teenager of 13 or so) may have been the wearer. It’s ver exciting actually to own such a special garment! So happy for you on this latest acquisition.
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guys, regarding whether this belonged to a child: I thought about this, but after some consideration I think it's less likely than it just having belonged to someone really small. I've examined 1870s photographs and fashion plates of kids and teenagers and here's what I've noticed:
1) Their dresses usually end way above the ankle, around 10 cm below the knees. The crinoline would have to be a little bit shorter than that, which means it would probably reach the knee. Keeping in mind this would be a young girl of a, let's say, 150 cm (4 ft 11) height, the longest crinoline a kid/teenager could wear would have to be around 37 cm. This one is about twice as long. If I wore it, it would probably be the right length for a 14 years old - except I'm a tall-ass grown up, so for an actual 14 years old it might be way too long.
2) The photographs of girls wearing transitional crinolines (around 1870) look like they weren't super wide - and though this one is quite narrow, I still can't imagine a child running around in an almost 2 m (78 in) wide crinoline. Pic: bit.ly/2X9ulxw
3) The back curve (the bottom 3-4 hoops) to me indicates the dress worn over it would be worn with a train/longer skirt, something that is not featured in teen's clothing at the time because, well, it didn't even reach the ground.
4) Petite women were a thing. I've seen Charlotte Bronte's dress, and it looks like it was made for a 10 year old. Queen Victoria was 152 cm (4 ft 11). I've seen stuff in museums that was clearly made for grown ups, but it could barely fit a modern kid. That's also one of the reasons it survived - it was so tiny it couldn't have been worn by other members of the family.
THAT BEING SAID it could have been worn by a child, it could've been worn by a teenager, it could've been worn by a small middle-aged man, we will probably never know and when it comes to fashion history, nothing is certain.
and that's #research 💃
Karolina Żebrowska NO! what you have to realize and obviously most of the young people today don’t know about
People were considerably smaller even only 100 years ago than they are today mostly because of nutrition
You only need to see a replica of the mayflower to see how small it was or to see other pieces of antique clothing to slowly realize there’s nothing of the sizes that we have today from those times because people didn’t get that big, their food and nutrition was entirely different
Often in the Victorian era eating meat was something that was done only once a week, and a List of other elements
I’m A great fan of vintage and antique clothing and I am over 50 years old, and I’ve had a lot of personal experience With people older than me and with auntie clothing and with people older than me and with antique clothing and the like
If you go to a few museums and start looking at anti-clothing you will see how small the adults were at that time they are like children to us today
goals i agree
sonia castaneda oh that’s far from research, it’s just having a look at some pictures. research would be reading contemporary sources, like diaries and magazines, looking a patents, maybe measuring other extant examples, having a look at statistics regarding average measurements. might do it one day but this has to do for now!
😎 content I'm looking forward to😁
“welcome back to another episode of me spending a crap ton of money on vintage stuff” can relate so much to that fjdjsnnd
이이 hey I like ur profile pic :)
@That One it's "Bibble" from a Barbie movie
@@prairiekittycat bibble is the power house of the cell
Imagine somebody in 2150 doing this with a modern bra
Valeria Vagapova bold of u to assume the earth would survive until 2150
I feel like modern bras would be the same as 2150 bras except maybe the ones from 2150 have some kind of fancy scanning tech in them or they're just the same-
@@kazm.3932 I was thinking the same lol
@@voidpriestess8339 bold of you to assume women will still wear bras.
@@Naharu. well I'm sure there will still be women with big boobs.
I love how collapsable and flexible this crinoline is! You mencioned in a video before that crinolines were thought to be very modern when compared to petitcoats and I can really see this here. A true product of the industrial age! Loved the video, love your channel!
Meme mother, does Medusa have tiny snakes instead of leg hair?
what about armpits ??? and pubic hair ????????
Trying to figure out if I'm delighted or horrified by this comment
Medusa doesn't have body hair, she has scales.
Well, her hair became snakes because it was too beautiful, so I don't think the goddess who turned her this way would give her body hair snakes as well - for they're not considered a seduction weapon
Way to ruin the magic
I really appreciate these types of video because it makes the clothing of back then so much more understandable. As a costume maker it's hard to recreate something that I've only seen in pictures or in a museum where you can't touch and turn them (understandable!) but you make them really come to live. Thank you! :-)
Meme mom looking beautiful as always. Also you holding the crinoline gave me major anxiety
Why?
EvieLions because it’s 150 years old and any piece of clothing that old is going to be very fragile
Meli Rayne exactly
Pretty sure she knew that though and was clearly being careful with it. It's nice to see something old get held and used again so long as it's done in a careful manner.
Beth Bowen yeah, she was being careful in the video
First off, your hair is stunning! Secondly, " I hate having an international audience." Lol But we love you! And you're the most accurate historic RUclipsr I know of! ♥️
These historical pieces are very interesting because they actually kinda mythbust some of the stereotypes mass culture has imposed on them (like the fact that it is actually flexible) and we can see living / and lived in history with the alterations made to it, and the wear and tear. Keep doing such good work!
New to your channel via the Jenna Marbles Victorian Lady video and have to say I find you absolutely delightful. Love your realness in a very artificial world.
I found her the same way. Now I can't stop watching!
@@eirrac same!
My first thought on that crinoline is that it was made for an older child, and was damaged over time (because kids have always been hard on clothes). But then again, I have no idea whether children were wearing crinolines day to day.
Even if they didn't wear it everyday, maybe they only wore it for special occasions
A more wealthy family who were very concerned about appearances?
I thought the same thing: made for a child and adjusted as she grew.
More likely just for a short woman. I'd easily fit into it.
I think that maybe it was a teen?
you are CRIMINALLY under subscribed and under viewed! you are a RUclips treasure Meme Maternal Unit
no she is not!!
And given by the size, the crinoline was either made for a small woman or for a teenager.
I thought of a teenager too tbh
Or maybe even a child? just because of how short/small it is
I thought the same, or maybe it was for a child or preeteen.
@@himeroos911 yah I could see that
Mia Macadamia No need to go that far lol. I'm an adult woman and "small" enough (apparently) to wear that crinoline with little-to-no struggle.
I think I would cry for hours if I was given permission to touch something as old as that. Just thinking about the life of the person who’d have worn it makes me emotional. I hope she was happy, whoever she was. 🖤
EDIT: I'm aware that old things are easy to find, I think I maybe misspoke! I just mean that the history of clothing, homes, belongings, etc, is wonderful. I have a brooch from my grandmother that is probably no older than 50 years old but I still think it's wonderful that I'm not the first woman to wear it and appreciate it!
Also, there's no need to be so rude about my silly little comment. If you've touched old things, good for you.
:I dno how about anyone else but if i walk down the street or few hours (about 2) I can touch as old and older things? I mean there is so many old houses around in Europe.
@@tomasvrabec1845 - I'm from the US, and you have to remember that out entire *country* is less than 300 years old. When I moved to England, I had an emotional experience when I touched a road, nevermind the castle at the end of the road. My husband and I were on our knees crying and overwhelmed that we could touch such a thing. We then spent every weekend going to castles, cathedrals, churches, stone circles, etc., and we never did take it for granted.
it's really not that hard to find something this old. I have multiple collectibles from the 1840's-60's and I'm not some rich antiques collector, I'm a millennial college drop out. Small things like hairpins and ladies' almanacs are easy to find and quite cheap! If you feel this strongly about it, you should try to find something for yourself.
I'm aware that old things are easy to find, I think I maybe misspoke! I just mean that the history of clothing, homes, belongings, etc, is wonderful. I have a brooch from my grandmother that is probably no older than 50 years old but I still think it's wonderful that I'm not the first woman to wear it and appreciate it!
Seriously? I just touched a newspaper from WWI yesterday. In my early 20s I rented a real Victorian dress, it's not exactly difficult. Maybe you should travel a bit.
tag yourself, i'm that tape hanging on for dear life
it's 4am and i need to sleep to go to school for my finals but i need to watch this first
What I find cool is that this is constructed very similarly to the base of Adam Savage's Totoro cosplay.
It's a nifty technique. Somehow I never realised before that this is how Crinolines were constructed too.
Meme Mother channelling true slav spirit. 'Tis but a blessed day
•Xx DaCollieLPS xX• poles are Slavic
@Thegrandberry
Good point, but their cultures r different but whateva
•Xx DaCollieLPS xX• Slavic refers to a larger group that include multiple groups such as Poles, Russians, Bulgarians, and Ukrainians
@Thegrandberry
Ik, but their cultures have differences and 'Slav' mainly refers to Russians but yes, these other ethnicities count as well. You have a good point anyway so I'll leave it at there.
P.S ty for not lashing out and expressing anger :)
The Polish are Germanic, from a genetic, historical, and cultural standpoint. Of course, there's a lot of blending in from both sides (that happens when you're in the middle of a land mass) but the majority are not all that Slavic. Most things are more in line with traditions of old Germania than they are with the culturally establishing empires of northern or western Europe.
Make a video about "vintage"- type modern bridal gowns! I feel like the term is so overused...
YES. Queen Victoria and her stupid white wedding dress. That's the real reason why we wear white at weddings now, you know. Before that blue was worn because that's the color of virginity (Mary is always wearing blue in old painting, that's why!). If women could afford them they'd wear blue wedding dresses, if not, they wore the best outfit they had. So much for "traditional wedding attire."
SOMETHING OLD, SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING BORROWED SOMETHING BLUE
It all makes sense now.
So true, lol, the whole white dress and fancy party thing was all started to show off how much money you had. A white dress would not be practical to wear regularly, especially not for work(as it would stain easily), so the gesture was really all about showing how you could waste money on a dress you’d never wear again 😂
well no "Countries to Go" red was a very common color in loads of places in Europe, like in Poland and Germany if I'm correct, a color you still see in a lot of Asian coutries been worn as wedding clothing.
Sarah Ford ``so the gesture was really all about showing how you could waste money on a dress you’d never wear again`` isn't it still?
It's so exciting to see an original piece from this era! To preserve something well you sometimes do need to do some repairs to make it stable. If you contact a local gallery or museum they will have restorers at conservators who could give you some advice.
Thanks for the close ups its nice to see something like this is such detail. Also It surprised me that it can be so flexible, like it can be bent, adaptable and so easily folded to be keep saved. Like I imagine it was once its original owner wanted to undress to go to sleep
I'm obsessed with your outfit and seeing these historic pieces is SO fascinating. Your videos are inspiring me to try to get back into sewing! :)
Yeah, that looks like it would fit me. I'm 5 foot nothing with a 23.5-inch waist (34 inches from my waist to the floor), and for almost all of my teenage years I was between 22 and 23 inches, and that's uncorseted. Corseted it would be even smaller. So yeah, extremely petite women exist, and they were slightly more common back then, but even now it's not unfeasible.
it's really interesting, imo!! I am 5'4" and my waist is 22" uncorseted. I buy a lot of vintage clothing and I've found juniors clothing to work best in 40's and 50's pieces (if I don't want to get it altered).
@@Champagne-trash Where do you find vintage clothing that small? I can't find anything with a waist under 24 inches to save my life, and then it's often not made for petite people and can be too long, etc. I'll have to hunt around for specifically Juniors clothing, thanks for the tip!
There’s a place called Via’s Vintage in Minneapolis MN USA that sells high quality vintage pieces. She organizes everything in the store by waist size and has a lot of small pieces. If you can’t go in person she posts a lot on Instagram and Facebook and can sell through there. She said one time that she has a ton of tiny pieces she doesn’t even put out in the store because they can’t be tried on by the vast majority of people without being damaged. I bet she would pull some pieces in your size if you were interested in purchasing 😊
@@danyg1400 People are just insecure. Anytime someone talks of petite women someone has to call them childish and un-womanly. Call it toxic femininity.
Even not petite. When I was 18, I was (and still am) 5’ 6”, with a 24” uncorsetted waist (which it is now very far from). So a slim woman, but maybe one shorter (especially if growing up with less consistent protein/relatively consistent malnutrition).
Hi there, I'm watching from New Zealand.
Just wondering what your thoughts were on the costumes worn in Gone With the Wind?
Your hair and outfit! 💕💕 you look so elegant and refined. 💕🌸
:DD I love those random editing cuts like: "why is it so low all of a sudden??" and then carries on seriously educating :DD
Me: *hears the word 'vintage'*
My mind: *"Those 100 year old glasses that you have up in that one cabinet"*
Me, to mind: *Shut up.*
Actually people were much shorter centuries ago, for example, the medium height in Italy for women in 1914 was 154cm, while now is 165cm
whats that in feet/inches?
@@clarisacalderon9555 use google. we always have to use that too when you americans use your crazy system
I am Asian and I can still see ladies in their late teens (17-19) in 149cm height. I am only 157cm myself and I am 17 years old yet my classmates who are a little bit older say I am tall.
@@chevistyles Height is so weird. I'm 185 and I some of my female friends are taller than me whilst others aren't even to my shoulders.
The main change came here in Czech Republic mostly after WW2. My grandpa and grandma were both between 155 and 165cm but my father used to be almost 190cm and he was first in our family to be that tall. It has a lot to do with much more meat and just much more calories in his diet when growing up in the 1950s than his parents growing up before or during WW1.
I love the outfit you are wearing today, and i love seeing the old clothes you buy it's like i get to shop without spending my money lol
Omg your hairstyle! It’s just immaculate and your hair is so shiny.😊 I wish I could do my hair like that.
I'm 5' 3" and have a 23 inch (60 cm) waist, so it's not inhumanly small even today. My great-grandmother was shorter than me with the same small bone frame, and her waist was tinier than mine when she was in her 80s.
Your hair looks so good in this video!
We have an 1860s corset at work but the hoops are definitely made out of a different kind of metal because they’re pretty stiff. It’s also not in great condition (very very rusty) but seeing the construction of this one with the little metal bits holding the boning into the tapes is fascinating-I’m definitely gonna pull ours back out again and have a closer look!
My best guess about the ghost boning is that the crinoline originally belonged to someone taller, then it was adjusted to fit another person. They removed the boning, cut away part of the vertical bands and then put in place the waistband.
I think this is from the 1870s, maybe altered when the natural form era started and used as a support for trained or even for round skirts. Believe me, even the sleek skirts of the natural form era needs support, or else the weight of the trimmed skirts will collapse at knee level.
As for the size, it could fit an adult woman. It would definitely fit my sister (expect the waist, but the waistband sems to be torn, maybe worn out?) and would give a nice shape to her early 1880s dress.
It wouldn't fit me, I'm 173 cm tall with a 76 cm corseted waist, but I have no problem to find period patterns to fit me, I don't even have to search for something intended for a pattern aimed at well developed or stout ladis, as it was called.
Anyhow, it is a wonderful find, I hope you enjoy it!
I've been waiting for another video like this, it looks so amazing 😍
gosh, this is so cool! there are no places easily accessible to me where I could see historical garments, so thank you so much for making this video! the crinoline is much lighter than I imagined, never thought all those petticoat layers could be supported by a pretty thin wire
Omg the hair is super cute! Do you have a tutorial for it?❤️
i'm just facinated that people have these items just around their house or wherever... i would LOVE to find an antique piece of history !
I'm reminded of the Cranford episode where one of the ladies orders what she thinks is a bird cage from Paris; turns out it's a crinoline! she sews cloth to the bottom to keep the bird in and proudly displays her parrot in it's Parisian cage. Eventualy she figures out she's been displaying an undergarment.
I love your content, I find you super charismatic and you seem super passionated about what you do, also I learn a lot watching your videos and they are super entertaining. Love from Argentina
This is probably one of my most favorite videos on RUclips. Period.
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I can’t trust anybody anymore,I really love her outfit today 💞
RUclips counts views after a specified time (1 minute I believe, not sure though). People might have liked the video at the beginning of watching (being happy a new video is out), so the likes got counted before the views were.
I often like a video of those I am subscribed to the moment I click it. It keeps me from forgetting to by the end. If they say or do something horrible, I retract the thumbs up, but I can't remember the last time that happened.
Karolin, please make a tutorial of that hairstyle please please you look stunning!!! 😍
I’m obsessed with your channel. I learn so much every time 😍
Meme mum is best mum, she’s a meme historian, she has seen all the memes, he holds all the knowledge 😦😦SHE WILL TALK OVER THE WORLD WITH THIS MEME KNOWLEDGE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I’m tired ok 😂
Anyways I love your content
"Welcome to another episode of 'I spent a lot of money on old stuff'!"
I died!!!!!!
No views but a ton of likes.
Clearly the ghosts of the victorian ladies are here appreciating your review.
Vivian Cristina Cosentino haha
It would be interesting for you to talk about how historically accurate the Titanic was! (Love your vids❤️)
Hi. Thank you for making these videos. I feel like i'm learning a lot from them and they are fun to watch and listen to. I studied fashion design and fashion history in undergraduate, but there is so much that the classes couldn't cover.
I'm imagining the original owner watching this video and holding her stomach from laughing about how you're trying to figure it out
You are honestly so cute, and I mean that in the best way possible. I love your knowledge of vintage and antique costuming combined with your unique personality and demeanor. Love your videos!
“sit on the floor like a true slav” ahahahahahahaha i love you don’t ever change
I wonder if the "missing" back hoops were removed due to damage from everyday use. It seems that's the area that would get the most wear from sitting. And then also it was an added bonus that the silhouette was changing so the modification of removing those back hoops was apropriate. Love these videos! Love that you gave the measurements in inches because I had my phone ready to convert it myself lol
So nice to see a video where someone is using measurements I can actually understand instead of just saying inches this and feet that. Anyways interesting video as always!
Feel you man
Bruh i forced myself to learn how different measurements and currencies work so I would understand lmao
bro this is the best series ever
Love the mix of your modern humour and vintage content!
your voice is so nice to listen to!! idk how to explain it, it’s just nice.
Idea! I know you've already done a 100 years of Polish fashion video thing, but I would be interested in even older fashion! It would be super cool if you could talk about Polish fashion from, say, middle ages to 1800s, or invite someone who can.
Love this video! About the absence of boning, do you think it would be possible a reason for it to be removed was if a woman was pregnant? I am not at all familiar with "maternal" fashion, but I guess they would alter their clothing to adjust to the woman's changing body. Even if this isn't the case, I think it would be cool to talk about fashion of pregnant woman because I feel there had to be many different styles and tricks seamstresses used to alter/make dresses.
Love those victory rolls! Could you maybe do a vintage hair tutorial?
The fact that it was made 150 years ago but still functions like it was supposed to (not warped or broken) blows my mind. Where is that kind of craftsmanship today
I spend all my money on vintage stuff ( lenses ) and contrary to you I still look like crap.
Oh my god , MEME MOM UPLOADED !!
my day is instantly better 👏🏻
nobushadowboy 🖤 mum* you stupid yank
It's 4:45 am and let me tell you the only good things about staying up this late are webtoons, the brownies I made and this video. Love your content!
“I’m just gonna sit on the floor like a true slav” lmaoo
Have you read Laura Ingalls Wilder? She wrote this great description. “Then carefully over her under-petticoats she put on her hoops. She liked these new hoops. They were the very latest style in the east, and these were the first of the kind that Miss Bell had got. Instead of wires, there were wide tapes across the front, almost to her knees, holding the petticoats so that her dress would lie flat. These tapes held the wire bustle in place at the back, and it was an adjustable bustle. Short lengths of tape were fastened to either end of it; these could be buckled together underneath the bustle, to puff it out, either large or small. Or they could be buckled together in front, drawing the bustle down close in back, so that a dress rounded smoothly over it. Laura did not like a large bustle, so she buckled the tapes in front.” LIW These Happy Golden Years.
This hairstyle is to die for! Could you make a tutorial for us?
I always get a smug, superior, 'proving us wrong' energy from karolinas videos.
What the time period of your hairstyle? It looks so gorgeous, I would love to find some tutorial on how to make it!
I always learn something new from u and the skirt hoop is really cool 🤗
“Welcome to another episode of I spent too much money on old stuff” MOOD
i'm really curious what you really do for a living vecause you're always so mysterious about work
Vale she’d be so cute in a lil antique shop or somethin
She does something related to film doesn't she?
It’d be cool if she does something awesome in historical costumes for the entertainment industry, theater, TV. I show a few of her videos for history class and the students enjoy it.
i guess we'll never know
Obviously nothing she is proud of.
I saw a bustle at a steampunk fair once! I don't know anything about it though.
This was so cool to see! I've seen pictures of similar crinolines but seeing how it moves is an added bonus. It seems like when people make reproduction versions now they tend to use around 7-10 1/2 inch (approximately 1 cm) bones and they just don't look the same.
I'm a historian and a curator and I freaking love old things! Old things get me riled up! And the older the better, like give me things that are pre written history and I'm freaking in heaven!
Love your videos... keep 'em coming! Love from the Netherlands!
Your hair is gorgeus. Pd i have the same shirt i love it!
Please please pretty please do a video about the clothing in outlander, especially season two when they are in France in the early 1740's. I'd die to see you react to it.
Jeddie Biggers that show emotionally fucks with me. Ugh I blocked it out and you just made all the mems come rushing back lol.
@@quieteyes307 same here, but in a good way?? its like I know that im in emotional distress 95% of the time but im too hooked on it to care
Yaaaaaas
My mathematician's heart is singing over its shape.
Meme mom! Please do a reaction video to the costumes in gentleman jack!
Love love 💕 💕💕💕
"I hate having international following" I LOVED THIS - I was thinking it must be so annoying to stop and figure out the conversion / but i appreciate it. :) Love your channel!
I was in the process of googling a cm to inch conversion for the waist measurement when she mentioned it 🤣
Just found your channel and love it!
The hair and earrings!!!
"60cm for someone petite is not a huge deal" Can confirm, I'm 58cm at the waist and I'm the "smolest bean in the room" type (1.58m for 50kg, waist: 58cm, hips: 88cm, with a fairly athletic build). Being a curator and Art restorer, I vividly remember seeing old dresses during one of my internships, the type of dresses that probably wouldn't fit your average teen in our times. However, the other interns kept telling me I was small enough to potentially fit in them. It felt strange but it's true that one of the dresses left me thinking "hey I could wear that" as soon as I saw it exposed on a mannequin.
I also have 58 cm in waist and 88 cm in hips :)
I would love the backstories of how you get these items and what they cost and how you find them and everything related! =D
It was also not too uncommon for the more frugal (at least in North America. Idk about the rest of the world.) To take the least needed boning from preordered crinolines and utilize them into dresses/corsets and other sewing needs. It was also easier to wear a crinoline with those bones taken out during the natural forms fashion times. Also easier while pregnant. And in general for a person who labored physically. I'm fairly short, 5'2 (the '2 counts! Barely but by cheese it counts!lol) and have worn a similar wire hoop support crinoline during a few re-enactment events. The top bones had to go. They bunched up and twisted in and really became a bother when standing at the work table preparing stuff.
Interesting!
I found this so interesting because I'm only 5' tall (150cm) and my waist is about 22"-23" (~58cm) in a corset, but my hips would NOT fit into a traditional crinoline for that waist size, which makes me think that that was why the hoops around the hips (of the mannequin, at least) were removed, either at the time, or by a relative trying to wear it later on.
your hairstyle is soooooo beautiful
Your channel is so therapeutic... Thank you!
Where do you buy all those authentic old clothes
Omigod! 😍😍😍 What an amazing piece for your collection!!! 🤩🙌🏽💖
I really like that desk lamp
“I’m just gonna sit on the floor like a true Slav.” Lololol! Greetings from Illinois!
It was you that inspired me to spend a lot of money on some vintage yearbooks. Thank you meme mom for inspiring me to empty my bank account. No for real though, I just spent $75 on yearbooks from the early 20th century...no regrets.
"I'm just gonna sit on the floor like a true slav" I'M..HAHHAHA
Um I could watch this content all day every day
A thought Karolina, is it possible that it is so small because a very young (our idea of a teenager of 13 or so) may have been the wearer. It’s ver exciting actually to own such a special garment! So happy for you on this latest acquisition.
Queen of the internet
Can you please show us how you styled your hair that way? It’s beautiful!