@@cookmania3465 Jim aint never spanked ANYbody😂... People love to act like Jim Smith comes within lightyears of the vocabulary, intelligence, lyrical acrobatics, metaphysical concepts, prose, cadence, multiline rhymes, metaphors, meaning, knowledge, rhyme scheme, infinite global references, synapses, sentence structure, stanzas, mental multidimension, punch bars, and simply raw skill that Canibus strafed and obliterated him with... Jim Todd Smith doesn't even know what most of the above even means.👀🤣
@@Weonlyknewoneway you better watch who you beef with is such an amazing classic of a song!! And that raw NYC Beats that literally represents 90s era of New York! #thatboombap #canibus #90serahiphop
Yeah but imagine making your verse saying it then following up with I’ll snatch the crown with your head still attached to it. Bis didn’t come in with the right attitude he came in with intensions of blowing up and taking that glory for himself. LL responding the way he did was wrong. But the beef after that was Canibus’ fault he could have maybe understood he overstepped and maybe apologized for it. But Canibus’ ego got in the way the second time and started a war he couldn’t win.
@@lethalassassin1754 You probably haven't heard the phone conversation they had right after when they cleared things only for LL to turn on his word. LL was a bitch for that!
I met cannibus when he joined the army at Ft.Lewis Washington he was in 593rd. We had a amazing conversation on how he landed in the army. He was a real cool dude giving them jewels while waiting for deployment to Afghanistan. Hood dude turned rapper then Soldier, Serving in the Army. Never judge a book by it's cover. 💪 💪
Like serving you army is a good thing , US has overthrowned over 50 countries since ww2. And if you think that is serving US and not the politicians then you might as well believe in aliens
@@srad8365it’s funny bc he said it’s the craziest diss track, well in the song he literally says “u may got more cash then but u don’t got the skills to eat a n****s ass like me” 😂😂
@@RCClipmanyoungin, it meant something completely different before you soyboys starting eating ass openly in the mid 2000’s. Keep reaching.. Rip the Jacker and 2nd Round KO murdered LL, it’s well know in the hip hop community that LL got bodied and needed the help of Entire giant label.
That was a total bitch move too. LL wishes he had the lyrical skill that Bis got and I like LL. Been down with him from Radio.
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canibus actually took his verse off but after LL pointed out no one would know who he was talking about canibus rewrote his verse thinking LL would do the same. He didn’t. Then the beef started.
@@swansmeister you right yo momma showed me real courage the way she takes bus loads of client jizz down her throat a day 😂😂😂😂was that uncensored enough for you son
@@2NiceWidit Nahhh, man. You need to listen to his verse again. Canibus said that at the beginning of the verse. His verse was a battle rap verse. Why would that be aimed at LL? LL obviously didn't have an issue with it because he allowed it on the album.
If LL would've understood the respect and admiration Canibus was showing him then we would've witnessed one of the dopest lyrical alley oops in hip hop history.
LL is legend but I don't like his ego. If he didn't take it offensively. Canibus could've had different career. well he still made underground classic like Rip The Jacker tho
If somebody walked up to you and said lemme borrow ya car, ya girl, you taking that as a compliment? GTFOH! 😂 you clowns know nothing about beef in hip hop. Can I buss could prefaced his comment like, hey L no disrespect but ya tat is ill, I want to get one like that. You can't borrow a tat so yeah it was disrespect! PERIOD! And the rest is history. RIP Can I buss! Lmao 😂
@@quas3728you don't like his supreme confidence. Just say that. We all have an ego, that's psychology, but you're jealous of his confidence. There I said it for you. 🤡
Nah...LL left a few details out? He threatened to take Canibus off the song if he didnt change the lyrics. Canibus changed his lyrics on the song thinking LL would do the same....LL didnt
That’s exactly how I remember It lol. Never was a fan of canibus as like most battle rappers, I don’t think they can entertain outside of the ring. Like make great songs etc. DMX was an exception.
@Nevin Reid that’s a fact. All them years “On Top” and as definitely deserved BUT his charisma, sex appeal, and trendy styling was wat put him there. This is wat made It seem so natural to see him go from “GOAT” to sit com and movie actor. I’m 37. I went from watchin him on tv and seeing my pops dress like him and get the chains etc. and by the time I hit 5th Grade me and my boys were wearing our wind breaker pants, one leg up. From In the house.
I never thought of him as being the GOAT of rap. His story telling wasn’t exceptional as a NAS, SLick, or DMX but It was enough to get the female audience lit. For him to snatch that moment from Canibus was very Nicki & Cardi MotorSport type thing. The self proclaimed Queen(Nicki) & GOAT (LL) wants the talented , highly sought after rookie to water themselves down and accept that the mutual “respect” they assume is happening , is actually unrequited.
@Nevin Reid these are my thoughts as well, but I didn’t want to incite that riot/debate on RUclips. 🤣🤣🤣 $uccess/Innovation does not equal Greatest Of All Time. If that was so, Flo Rida would be able to say he’s the GOAT over LL. 🤦🏽♂️
@Nev Reid LL was very paranoid back in the days I guess him being on top of the game I quests he felt other emcees was out to take his spot I guess to me it was hilarious because even krs1who supposed to be a teacher didn't understand what canibus ment on the beef vid he sounded dumb as hell to me
The industry squashed CANIBUS’s career because he was bodying shyt, and would have murdered LL on wax! CANIBUS, lyrically, is unmatched! Real MC’a and Hip Hop heads know this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Phil-pb9be listen to Beast From The East with Redman, A+, Mr. Cheeks, and Canibus. Unlike LL, Canibus wasn’t exactly a writer of songs that had pop appeal but lyrically and in battle he mauled LL
@@nategreatgames78He saying you heard my verse, voiced your dislike for it, asked (if not demanded) me to change it then threw your untouched verse on there last...after Bus' ("you studied my rhyme, then you laid your vocals AFTER mine"). And you just pointed this out to somebody else😞😞😞
@@ceeleewal1257 original comment had the wrong lyric. They thought canibus said LL changed his lyrics. I know LL wrote his lyrics after her heard canibus verse, then told him Canibus to change his verse or he was going to take him off the record, he gave canibus the impression they were good and LL was going to change his verse, but LL took the stance that nobody was going to know who LL was talking about if Canibus changed his verse. Once the original version of the track got leaked it was obvious who LL was dissing, so that's why Canibus had to go at him.
Really, it’s kinda sad. His ego and the subsequent black balling of Canibus robbed the hip hop community of arguably one of the most talented lyricists of his time.
He ain't blackball him at all,,,just destroyed him to the point nobody wanted to hear from him anymore which made ppl not wanna work with him...he wasnt blackballed just went at the wrong one and got his head handed to him #CaseClosed
@@mr.q6162nigga are you dumb canibus was def blacked balled. nigga beefed with LL and eminem. yk how many meat jockeys eminem alone has. canibus got done wrong
@@l.ronhubbard5445do you? publicly embarrassing someone with a song diss is not the same as going behind closed doors and using power/influence/connections to prevent business associates from working with someone. think about 50 cent and ja rule: by your definition, 50 blackballed ja by humiliating him on diss tracks and interviews, causing people to no longer regard him as cool. when in reality, 50 was the one that got blackballed by ja and murder inc several year prior: his label dropped him, no producers were willing to work with him, and everybody in the industry iced him out. 50 then had to grind in the independent mixtape circuit and gradually create enough buzz that people in the industry took notice. cannibus could’ve done the same thing.
I remember this beef, and back then I thought it was so unfortunate, I didn’t think Canibus was attacking LL, and to this day I still think Canibus is one of the best lyrical rappers of all time. LL’s ego showed itself.
Canibus didn't want beef and he said it but, his handlers told him he had to respond. I remember this. But at least he's admitting he was dumb as fuck.
@@jonnydavis6066Nah I don’t think Em took their beef serious like that. He did clown Bis really hard tho and back when Canibus was know for being someone you didn’t wanna diss. Bis hurt his career bad by not letting that beef go and constantly name dropping Em for years.
BiG Facts!!!!! Def-Jam and Universal Blackballed BIS....Made the " Culture " not even mention his name....Songs like..."Dead by Design" or "The Primary Axiom " would never be played on the Radio.
@@jonnydavis6066nah, Eminem was like the icing on top of the cake Not to say that’s how it shoulda been back then. But to ‘lose’/be blackballed by LL. Who most looked at as the GOAT. Then ‘lose’ to Eminem being silly. It was almost like saying, ‘damn you lost to the Champ and now you can’t even beat the white boy? Damn Bus, you fell off’. That’s how MANY looked at it. And because Canibus didn’t really have any mainstream pull or appeal. He had to take it all on the chin.
Its the principle of "you don't flatter another man." You can tell me I look good or "damn you've been in the gym huh??" ..... but don't call me cute dude
@@jackjack4412 Na can’t agree. He was just showing love and respect to one of his heroes growing up. LL acted pathetically and then got roasted on 2nd round KO.
The only thing that Canibus didnt have was money and resources. Other than that LL didnt want no parts of a full beef with him. LL was real weak on this and it goes deeper than just rap. He payed DJs to not play Canibus LL diss.
LL new exactly what he meant, he just wanted to reinvent himself by starting beef with a good and up and coming rapper. LL was right about one thing, he was too ignorant for that. He didn't wanna recognize that Canibus was paying his respect, showing him love. LL just wanted to rebuild his rap career. Smdh
Method Man, Redman, and DMX ALL said in different interviews that Cannibus didn't mean anything by it lol they all knew him and took up for Cannibus 💯👏🏿
LL is not stupid! He knew that was a compliment. By that time he was 12 years in the game, and was already viewed as the old school rap dude. He put the hottest rappers of that time on a song, then STARTED beef with the skinny lil dude that was known for the illest freestyles and crushin' the cyphers at Def Jam. After that, his career was resurrected. That was a calculated move by LL.
Canibus told me he changed his verse after L asked him too because he thought he was coming at him so canibus changed that verse but L came at him anyway then canibus verse was removed ,,off the radio version ,but L was doing extra shit going to radio stations using his star power to hurt him and not leaving it to just a lyrical battle ,,at that time he was still hurt by that we talked about his problem with em ,
I’m so glad someone gets it. Bus lyrically slaughtered him and his celebrity won the battle in Mainstream eyes when all L did was take everything Bus said and tried to turn it although that flip “99% of your don’t exist.” Was funny af tho lol
LL still acting like he doesn't know the context of "let me borrow that" bar, is a testament to his Ego and arrogance that he clearly will always have. Props to Bis for having the balls to go against the industry and speak up, he lost his opportunity for a mainstream career, but maintained his integrity, And still continues to drop top level rhymes to this day.
Wow L I respect your hustle and you ,I must say beloved it was most definitely a compliment everyone knows what he was saying.When we r Haughty we loose sight of everything. And when we mature and we still don't get it!! Something is wrong ,we can't pretend to have insight and maturity and your still in ,I am all that Darkness!!!
@@shelstone66 Wasn't a better dis tho....it was the facts that his status was so high at the time that won it for LL...all he had yo do was respond and he wins....that dis was not better than Cans dis
@@theplanet7187 yeah you mention the wrong name cuz I don’t fucc with people who doesn’t have profile and so what if he is on drugs ain’t sh*t new about it which y’all acting brand new to this 💀 y’all about to get sensitive for nothing
@Dalone Jones it wasn't a battle because LL used his position in the industry to kill his career. Because he knew he couldn't do it on the mic.thats why you never heard a verse from him after that. LL was a gimmick
@Dalone Jones not white,never played McCartney. It's ok, you do you and go put on a LL video so you can sit back and watch him lick his lips. If I want to know what it feels like to be on parole I'll dm you
I don’t give a f who u r So f who u r I don’t care about a pretty b Watch or car I don’t care about ya block or Whoever u shot Don’t care about your album or Whenever it drops. Slayed it But overall Beans and Hov bodied it
LL had a reputation for taking things the wrong way. His ego and competitiveness wouldn't allow Canibus be in the same space for to long. LL is a ledgend, But he can't mess with Canibus. Canibus is to vicious for him.
Two times LL Cool J was shown be problematic. He couldn’t recognize a compliment, or recognize what is fiction and what is real during an acting role with the movie (any given Sunday)with Jamie Foxx LL Cool J acted a damn fool.
You gotta love LL‘s honesty, but I think cannabis was coming from a more respectful place with that line, I never thought it was a negative shot at LL… and the first time I heard I’m bad by LL Cool J I was maybe four or five years old and I’m still a fan of LL but like I said, I think cannabis was being respectful, but all in all, I loved the battle between the two
This is great. 1 minor correction lol he didn't take canibus off the track...he.just clipped his verse cuz he didnt wanna feel bodied Oh but JAYZ WOULDA TAKE HIM OFF THE RECORD
And this is why I love that song 🎵 DMX, TODD and Master P Method Man ❤ omg one of the best hip hop magics that was made and don’t get it twisted, Canibus did not disappoint at all regardless of!!! Period! He should be one of our legends also… Canibus.
I know right? But I'm not sure Jay Z would have done that because this situation has arisen before, he got bodied on his own song Renegade by Eminem🤣, and I don't even like Eminem, so from that Jay Z would have just left it in, the whole thing going over his head.🤣🤣
@@thedarkerarchery3553 that was Em’s song to begin with so technically Jay couldn’t have taken him off it. Plus-Em did didn’t out do Jay. Not even close.
@@eternallife Are you paying attention to the hip hop world? Literally everybody knows that, it's a classical fact in any measurable lyrical sense. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Eminem. And how could it be Eminem's song when it's on Jay's album? If that was true it would look even worse for Jay on top of getting bodied in it.😂
LL knew he got murdered and wasn't having it on his own song. Talking about he left them on yeah after you made him change his verse damn without him after the fact
That second round ko was one of the best diss records of all time and it destroyed LL in that battle but the industry made it seem like LL won the battle because he was an icon and thats foul because LL started the beef...
🤔 Sometimes an ego can take you down a dark path and you don't even realize it! And I'm not just talking about LL with this rap "beef".. I'm talking about in real life.😳
What the ever LL was hating on him He know cannabis was amazing well amazing way above any rapper he has ever heard and LL was jealous LL was jealous of canibus
I remember watching “Going Back To Cali” on prime time MTV back when it was all just Hair Metal bands (I was 6). 14 Shots is my favorite album of his, LL, Ice T, and RunDmc pushed rap music into the mainstream in the 80’s while still maintaining the integrity of the culture.
No he's not because the majority of argument you hear from people these days is " Look who on top, he making💲though and where's Canibus right now?" They won't just admit that dude got trampled on and off his own joint... popularity is what's important in their minds
L.L knew exactly what he was doing & here’s why… L.L’s lyrics: “You djj on my wanna borrow that/ You wanna idolize.” Letting him know that he (Canibus) was idolizing his tatt was a dead giveaway that he knew. ✅🎯
“Yea I took his verse he bodied me on, cut half of it, then changed mines to respond to all of it.” Is what he meant to say 😂😂 LL a legend and a pioneer in the game fs 🎤 but the shit he did to cannibus was not only petty, but unnecessary considering all homie did was try to show you love. 🤦🏾♂️
And this is why they say it ain't always a good thing to meet your idols.
U lost laugh at that
Man you ni¢$@z g@y.... We can't have matching tattoos ... The fuq
Why LL told him get your own art and Cannibus double down on the mic tattoo and LL spanked him 😅
@@cookmania3465 Jim aint never spanked ANYbody😂... People love to act like Jim Smith comes within lightyears of the vocabulary, intelligence, lyrical acrobatics, metaphysical concepts, prose, cadence, multiline rhymes, metaphors, meaning, knowledge, rhyme scheme, infinite global references, synapses, sentence structure, stanzas, mental multidimension, punch bars, and simply raw skill that Canibus strafed and obliterated him with... Jim Todd Smith doesn't even know what most of the above even means.👀🤣
Truth but also this is why we shouldnt have idols in the first place inspirations but not idols
Canibus spit some of the illest bars I've ever heard 🔥
Lyrical Genius with a Pen and pad!!!
FACTS
I Still pump That Buckingham Palace
Look up "C of tranquility" Canibus is the goat. Idgaf
@@Weonlyknewoneway you better watch who you beef with is such an amazing classic of a song!! And that raw NYC Beats that literally represents 90s era of New York!
#thatboombap
#canibus #90serahiphop
That was actually a compliment from Canibus but you was too blinded by ego to see it.
Canibus sounds really bad
@@Darkstar_Dayne He isn’t lol
@@Darkstar_Dayne he isn't
Yeah but imagine making your verse saying it then following up with I’ll snatch the crown with your head still attached to it. Bis didn’t come in with the right attitude he came in with intensions of blowing up and taking that glory for himself. LL responding the way he did was wrong. But the beef after that was Canibus’ fault he could have maybe understood he overstepped and maybe apologized for it. But Canibus’ ego got in the way the second time and started a war he couldn’t win.
@@lethalassassin1754 You probably haven't heard the phone conversation they had right after when they cleared things only for LL to turn on his word. LL was a bitch for that!
I met cannibus when he joined the army at Ft.Lewis Washington he was in 593rd. We had a amazing conversation on how he landed in the army. He was a real cool dude giving them jewels while waiting for deployment to Afghanistan. Hood dude turned rapper then Soldier, Serving in the Army. Never judge a book by it's cover. 💪 💪
Yo I was in the 593rd on Ft. Lewis in 1990. Life in Washington was a trip
Damn he was in 593rd Group we was attached to that group, 295th Supply Co. In 1989
I was in 109th MI then.
He's not an ignorant neither; a truly intelligent guy, which shows in his lyrics
Like serving you army is a good thing , US has overthrowned over 50 countries since ww2. And if you think that is serving US and not the politicians then you might as well believe in aliens
2nd round knockout was one of the craziest diss tracks ever
Is...🔥🔥🔥
Then go listen to I'll Bomb
@@SithLord-qd5bs
Rip the Jacker
@@srad8365it’s funny bc he said it’s the craziest diss track, well in the song he literally says “u may got more cash then but u don’t got the skills to eat a n****s ass like me” 😂😂
@@RCClipmanyoungin, it meant something completely different before you soyboys starting eating ass openly in the mid 2000’s. Keep reaching.. Rip the Jacker and 2nd Round KO murdered LL, it’s well know in the hip hop community that LL got bodied and needed the help of Entire giant label.
4,3,2,1 was one of the best collabs I've ever heard
X went into this a year before his debut album
The beat. The verses. Perfection.
Still listen to it.
Yea that record is still crazy Dmx killed his verse
💯
Actually LL made him change his verse and then he dissed Bis in his verse right after that. THAT started the beef.
That was a total bitch move too. LL wishes he had the lyrical skill that Bis got and I like LL. Been down with him from Radio.
canibus actually took his verse off but after LL pointed out no one would know who he was talking about canibus rewrote his verse thinking LL would do the same. He didn’t. Then the beef started.
TRUTH
A lot of people have been trying to gloss over that!
"You know L sensitive af.. he always been that way." - Method Man discussing the Canibus/LL Beef
😂😂
He light skin 😂
LL sensitive lol Drake before Drake
I remember watching a Redman clip and he said the SAME THING 💯💯💯😭😭😭 he said NO ONE took it as a diss but LL 💯💯😭😭
It's the egos... that's what makes them sensitive lol but at least Drake can laugh at himself 💯😂 NOT LL tho...
That was one of the hardest bars by Canibus “I beat a n to death and beat a dead n back 2 life”woooooo
Was looking for this comment homie 😮💨🔥 barzzz
It's ok to say nigga scared boy, this is just the yt comment section lmfao.
@@swansmeister you right yo momma showed me real courage the way she takes bus loads of client jizz down her throat a day 😂😂😂😂was that uncensored enough for you son
Almost everything in his verse on beasts from the East is just as hard or harder. He absolutely obliterates that track
That's the best part of this video. Hearing that line again.
One of the best songs ever! Everybody's verse was straight
Canibus was complementing the Brother. LL took it some where else. Damn shame how we do each other. Canibus was a pretty good lyricist too.
Bro go back and listen .. “PRETTY GOOD”!!!! One of the TOP lyricist .. just didn’t have the longevity or huge success..
How was it a compliment?
What do you mean “was”? Bis just released another album.
So when he said " I'll snatch your crown with your head still attached to it", that was a compliment? I think maybe you should listen to the verse.
@@2NiceWidit Nahhh, man. You need to listen to his verse again. Canibus said that at the beginning of the verse. His verse was a battle rap verse. Why would that be aimed at LL? LL obviously didn't have an issue with it because he allowed it on the album.
If LL would've understood the respect and admiration Canibus was showing him then we would've witnessed one of the dopest lyrical alley oops in hip hop history.
He didn’t need that pass
copying shit is corny
@@espectrodelayautja6320 I beg to differ...nobody will say that LL is in their top 5 unless it's Nore or other queens niggaz
@@espectrodelayautja6320 bar for bar canibus if a giant over L. Forget about careers or accomplishments his skills will never get near canibus.
He knew bro. He wanted a victim
Come on LL! He liked your tat and asked to borrow it, basically shoutin u out ! But u took it somewhere else!
Exactly
LL is legend but I don't like his ego. If he didn't take it offensively. Canibus could've had different career. well he still made underground classic like Rip The Jacker tho
If somebody walked up to you and said lemme borrow ya car, ya girl, you taking that as a compliment? GTFOH! 😂 you clowns know nothing about beef in hip hop. Can I buss could prefaced his comment like, hey L no disrespect but ya tat is ill, I want to get one like that. You can't borrow a tat so yeah it was disrespect! PERIOD! And the rest is history. RIP Can I buss! Lmao 😂
@@quas3728you don't like his supreme confidence. Just say that. We all have an ego, that's psychology, but you're jealous of his confidence. There I said it for you. 🤡
@@jasonwilliams6765 LL is a sellout anyway. After this beef he was doing love songs with J Lo 🤣
LL Cool J’s ego got the best of him. Canibus was just admiring a legend and LL wrongfully took it as disrespect smh!
Then Canabus washed him lol
@@BodieC92what
It blows my mind how LL took offense to that line even til this day
In all honesty..the real beef was bcuz canibus wanted to out LL mic tattoo on his record cover
He knew ,he needed a boost. Personally or Business but he's never been stupid, he knew.
Nah...LL left a few details out? He threatened to take Canibus off the song if he didnt change the lyrics. Canibus changed his lyrics on the song thinking LL would do the same....LL didnt
That’s exactly how I remember It lol. Never was a fan of canibus as like most battle rappers, I don’t think they can entertain outside of the ring. Like make great songs etc. DMX was an exception.
@Nevin Reid that’s a fact. All them years “On Top” and as definitely deserved BUT his charisma, sex appeal, and trendy styling was wat put him there. This is wat made It seem so natural to see him go from “GOAT” to sit com and movie actor. I’m 37. I went from watchin him on tv and seeing my pops dress like him and get the chains etc. and by the time I hit 5th Grade me and my boys were wearing our wind breaker pants, one leg up. From In the house.
I never thought of him as being the GOAT of rap. His story telling wasn’t exceptional as a NAS, SLick, or DMX but It was enough to get the female audience lit. For him to snatch that moment from Canibus was very Nicki & Cardi MotorSport type thing. The self proclaimed Queen(Nicki) & GOAT (LL) wants the talented , highly sought after rookie to water themselves down and accept that the mutual “respect” they assume is happening , is actually unrequited.
@Nevin Reid these are my thoughts as well, but I didn’t want to incite that riot/debate on RUclips. 🤣🤣🤣 $uccess/Innovation does not equal Greatest Of All Time. If that was so, Flo Rida would be able to say he’s the GOAT over LL. 🤦🏽♂️
Not even thinking. LL Said He would
I'm laughing 😂 because it went over LL head that's started an unnecessary beef 🤣 I'm dead
@Nev Reid LL was very paranoid back in the days I guess him being on top of the game I quests he felt other emcees was out to take his spot I guess to me it was hilarious because even krs1who supposed to be a teacher didn't understand what canibus ment on the beef vid he sounded dumb as hell to me
@Nev Reid true no denying that I agree
@Nev Reid facts I agree
Dude had eminem ghost write some of his disses at canibus
@@MrRop-yp3wt I wouldn't doubt it
The industry squashed CANIBUS’s career because he was bodying shyt, and would have murdered LL on wax! CANIBUS, lyrically, is unmatched! Real MC’a and Hip Hop heads know this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What’s at CANIBUS song I should listen to?
@@Phil-pb9be Poet Laureate II
@@Phil-pb9be listen to Beast From The East with Redman, A+, Mr. Cheeks, and Canibus.
Unlike LL, Canibus wasn’t exactly a writer of songs that had pop appeal but lyrically and in battle he mauled LL
Not
@@mobetta2092 idk bout all that but Poet Laureate II smokes some of Bis's own shit...on me...
“And you changed your vocals after mine that’s a bitch move!”
🤣🤣🤣😂😂
“Laid your vocals after mine”, canibus was the one who ended up changing his lyrics
🤣🤣🤣👹
@@nategreatgames78He saying you heard my verse, voiced your dislike for it, asked (if not demanded) me to change it then threw your untouched verse on there last...after Bus' ("you studied my rhyme, then you laid your vocals AFTER mine"). And you just pointed this out to somebody else😞😞😞
@@ceeleewal1257 original comment had the wrong lyric. They thought canibus said LL changed his lyrics. I know LL wrote his lyrics after her heard canibus verse, then told him Canibus to change his verse or he was going to take him off the record, he gave canibus the impression they were good and LL was going to change his verse, but LL took the stance that nobody was going to know who LL was talking about if Canibus changed his verse. Once the original version of the track got leaked it was obvious who LL was dissing, so that's why Canibus had to go at him.
This dudes laugh is hilarious 😂...that shit'll make any funny story funnier by ending it with that laugh 😂😂😂😂😂
Really, it’s kinda sad. His ego and the subsequent black balling of Canibus robbed the hip hop community of arguably one of the most talented lyricists of his time.
He ain't blackball him at all,,,just destroyed him to the point nobody wanted to hear from him anymore which made ppl not wanna work with him...he wasnt blackballed just went at the wrong one and got his head handed to him #CaseClosed
@@mr.q6162nigga are you dumb canibus was def blacked balled. nigga beefed with LL and eminem. yk how many meat jockeys eminem alone has. canibus got done wrong
@mr.q6162 do you understand what "blackball" means?
Left him on the record even
@@l.ronhubbard5445do you? publicly embarrassing someone with a song diss is not the same as going behind closed doors and using power/influence/connections to prevent business associates from working with someone.
think about 50 cent and ja rule:
by your definition, 50 blackballed ja by humiliating him on diss tracks and interviews, causing people to no longer regard him as cool.
when in reality, 50 was the one that got blackballed by ja and murder inc several year prior: his label dropped him, no producers were willing to work with him, and everybody in the industry iced him out.
50 then had to grind in the independent mixtape circuit and gradually create enough buzz that people in the industry took notice.
cannibus could’ve done the same thing.
I remember this beef, and back then I thought it was so unfortunate, I didn’t think Canibus was attacking LL, and to this day I still think Canibus is one of the best lyrical rappers of all time. LL’s ego showed itself.
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Canibus didn't want beef and he said it but, his handlers told him he had to respond. I remember this. But at least he's admitting he was dumb as fuck.
Facts bro!
Well said!
Bar for Bar The Greatest Of All Time
Even tho Bis change his verse that "snatch ya crown with ya head still attached to it" line was sly asf Lol
It really was.
"The Canibus is the type to fight for mics, beating niggas to death and beating dead niggas to life."
Wats the name of these songs?? I gotta hear this ish
@@trishanikov 4321,2nd round knockout,the ripper strikes back
That fuckin bar
This might surprise the younger generation, but Canibus was the #1 rapper for like a year until his album came out and flopped.
He blackballed Canibus after this. He lost and got in his feelings
Eminem blackballed canibus
@@jonnydavis6066Nah I don’t think Em took their beef serious like that. He did clown Bis really hard tho and back when Canibus was know for being someone you didn’t wanna diss. Bis hurt his career bad by not letting that beef go and constantly name dropping Em for years.
@@impulse_xsminem took shots at Canibus in Kamikaze Mtbmb wym
BiG Facts!!!!! Def-Jam and Universal Blackballed BIS....Made the " Culture " not even mention his name....Songs like..."Dead by Design" or "The Primary Axiom " would never be played on the Radio.
@@jonnydavis6066nah, Eminem was like the icing on top of the cake
Not to say that’s how it shoulda been back then. But to ‘lose’/be blackballed by LL. Who most looked at as the GOAT. Then ‘lose’ to Eminem being silly. It was almost like saying, ‘damn you lost to the Champ and now you can’t even beat the white boy? Damn Bus, you fell off’.
That’s how MANY looked at it. And because Canibus didn’t really have any mainstream pull or appeal. He had to take it all on the chin.
LL was supposed to embrace the upstart, but his arrogance led to the fallout
Even in this interview L l's bruised ego is showing lol
Not really...
True. Canibus was just complimenting the dude but LL had too much of an ego to see.
@@RR-lv3tpyes really.
Its the principle of "you don't flatter another man."
You can tell me I look good or "damn you've been in the gym huh??" ..... but don't call me cute dude
@@jackjack4412 Na can’t agree. He was just showing love and respect to one of his heroes growing up. LL acted pathetically and then got roasted on 2nd round KO.
Canibus should be proud for being the only man in earth to ever give LL a Lyrical Near Death Experience
Operable word being NEAR death 🤣 because when L dropped The Ripper Strikes Back, Can I Bus retired, and joined the army
@@djinspector1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Na it actually wasn't even close. LL murdered him, and I love both of them
LMAO!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
The only thing that Canibus didnt have was money and resources. Other than that LL didnt want no parts of a full beef with him. LL was real weak on this and it goes deeper than just rap. He payed DJs to not play Canibus LL diss.
LL new exactly what he meant, he just wanted to reinvent himself by starting beef with a good and up and coming rapper. LL was right about one thing, he was too ignorant for that. He didn't wanna recognize that Canibus was paying his respect, showing him love. LL just wanted to rebuild his rap career. Smdh
Imagine that years later we find out he played tickled touch with Quincy Jones to get where he got 🤮
@Matt Vota Canibus takes a W over LL and Em if that's the case...smh plus he fought for the country 💪💪
@@mattvota1342 yep
@The Esquire of Sports ® fr
@@mattvota1342wait what do you mean?
Method Man, Redman, and DMX ALL said in different interviews that Cannibus didn't mean anything by it lol they all knew him and took up for Cannibus 💯👏🏿
LL is not stupid! He knew that was a compliment. By that time he was 12 years in the game, and was already viewed as the old school rap dude. He put the hottest rappers of that time on a song, then STARTED beef with the skinny lil dude that was known for the illest freestyles and crushin' the cyphers at Def Jam. After that, his career was resurrected. That was a calculated move by LL.
Thank you.....L was disappearing into the sunset around that time and the beef kept L around musically for at least another 7-10 years
@@theplanet7187 Real Talk!
Ninjas keep saying he was young...he was damn near 30 years old.
@@LostBoysBasketball he was 22 in 1990....
good one!! now that makes sense
Canibus told me he changed his verse after L asked him too because he thought he was coming at him so canibus changed that verse but L came at him anyway then canibus verse was removed ,,off the radio version ,but L was doing extra shit going to radio stations using his star power to hurt him and not leaving it to just a lyrical battle ,,at that time he was still hurt by that we talked about his problem with em ,
Stfu you a no one
LL got bodied and deep down in his soul he knows it..
LL definitely lost lyrically and anyone not distracted by the lights knows that. His popularity is what got him through
I’m so glad someone gets it. Bus lyrically slaughtered him and his celebrity won the battle in Mainstream eyes when all L did was take everything Bus said and tried to turn it although that flip “99% of your don’t exist.” Was funny af tho lol
Second round knockout I'll never forget it
And we do too. Fan of both but Canibus smashed him but LL popularity and pull got him over.
Yup
LL still acting like he doesn't know the context of "let me borrow that" bar, is a testament to his Ego and arrogance that he clearly will always have. Props to Bis for having the balls to go against the industry and speak up, he lost his opportunity for a mainstream career, but maintained his integrity, And still continues to drop top level rhymes to this day.
Classic classic Collab... It is still fire 🔥🔥💯 I have to go back play ▶️ some time even in 2024 ...
I remember in high school this one student was talking about “Second around K.O. When I heard it my mouth dropped 👍🏾
Same here bro
Man I was that kid that was always looking for diss tracks and telling my friend about them, memories
Bruh!!! They played that shit in Charlotte like every 30 minutes!!! My man Eddie Owens was on one about Second Round KO!!!
Looking back that can I bus record was over hyped canibus went crazy and had Mike on the hook
I still use Canibus’ verse off of the Common album as my own “freestyle” when needed. Yo, the Canibus is an animal, with a mechanical mandible.
I remember that beef cool j was still on his street .... when they was beefing. But canabus had skills also. Thank you for your service .💯💯💯
Wow L I respect your hustle and you ,I must say beloved it was most definitely a compliment everyone knows what he was saying.When we r Haughty we loose sight of everything. And when we mature and we still don't get it!! Something is wrong ,we can't pretend to have insight and maturity and your still in ,I am all that Darkness!!!
I love LL but I love Canibus too. Glad to see most in the comments agree to what really happened.
I agree with canibus, he was showing love & LL didn’t know how to take that
Canibus was underrated and had bars for James
Todd
@@Mookaron Smith
@@forcedtohaveahandle 😂💀
@@Mookaronwhos cannibus and who would name themselves that?
Canibus wasn’t underrated. He was the #1 rapper for like a year until his album came out and went double wood.
Cann was giving him mad props....L got sensitive in this case....and Cann killed him with that 2nd round TKO track....
Then LL ended his existence with Jack the rapper
@@shelstone66 Wasn't a better dis tho....it was the facts that his status was so high at the time that won it for LL...all he had yo do was respond and he wins....that dis was not better than Cans dis
@@areoinstylz Facts, LL won by default 💯. Canibus won their beef fair and square!
Literally KILLED him!!!
@@cashoutsteve2495 Bro really was gone be a problem for years to come IMO......
Let's not shy away from the fact he threw his lil shot at Hov, then laughs it off 😩
he actually complimented Jay Z by saying Jay would've done it smart having no trouble no extended beef
I can see it going both ways. It's the context. LL's delivery. What he said vs how he said it
@@kepps lawdt 🤦🏾
That was definitely a shot at Jay, but Cool James ain't fucking with Jay-Z either!!!
Yeah he definitely took a shot, at the God MC Hova
Exactly To Big headed to see that he was showing him Love !!
I think he admired you ll cool Jay. But you were young.
@Nevin Reid how you know Canibus ain’t lying on him? 🤔
@@HipHopSoulTV where did that come from?
@@theplanet7187 you mention the wrong person
@@HipHopSoulTV nah I got it right. where did u get the idea that canibus might be lying? LL admitted it in his own book
@@theplanet7187 yeah you mention the wrong name cuz I don’t fucc with people who doesn’t have profile and so what if he is on drugs ain’t sh*t new about it which y’all acting brand new to this 💀 y’all about to get sensitive for nothing
It's crazy for LL to ever mention anything about Canibus because home boy bodied him on one of the best diss tracks ever. 2nd round knockout.
It's the other way around homie, notepad boy got murked.
Canibus was fire for sure, but LL bodied him on The Ripper Strikes Back bro.
So I give you one wish @StV, Canibus or LL’s career or life?
@@arnhay what does that have to do with a battle. He lost the battle, period. LL had to have him black balled.
@@atlien1988no he didn’t that shìt was weak yall just bias
That laugh, though.... 🤐
The white guy in the back laughing. The timings on that laugh was funny too
As angry as he looks when he s serious as shiny looks his face when he smiles.. so sweet 😊🤗
that LL laugh is classic
I’m sorry but Cannibus straight murdered LL, that was one of the sickest diss in rap history. LL shouldn’t be laughing, at all.
What are you even talking about bro? Canibus was complimenting LL Cool J.
2nd RD Knock-Out was better than half of LLs career. Music wise
Ppl don't realise how much of a beast cannabis was,I love that guy music coming up
Lol it's rap it's competition we was loving that battle jerz....
He killed LL in that battle!
@Dalone Jones it wasn't a battle because LL used his position in the industry to kill his career. Because he knew he couldn't do it on the mic.thats why you never heard a verse from him after that. LL was a gimmick
@Dalone Jones not white,never played McCartney. It's ok, you do you and go put on a LL video so you can sit back and watch him lick his lips.
If I want to know what it feels like to be on parole I'll dm you
@@jennybaca3409Notepad boy turned himself into a gimmick lmfao, he can't even freestyle.
Yeah, he did that.
LL couldn't handle the fact that a young upstart got the best of him so he pulled an industry move and tried to muscle him out
LL my boy but that was a compliment grandson damn he looked up to you
LL Cool J and Big Sean both are real for allowing and Keeping fire diss bars on thier songs.
The best part of that rap is when LL spit on the 🎙️ told cannabis lookie Coney buster he can't even walk down his own. That shit was on point
Jay z actually left Styles P verse on "Reservoir Dogs" it was about Jay
This guy is major peon .
That sh1t was too 🔥
Say it louder so the dumb haters can hear you.
I don’t give a f who u r
So f who u r
I don’t care about a pretty b
Watch or car
I don’t care about ya block or
Whoever u shot
Don’t care about your album or
Whenever it drops. Slayed it
But overall Beans and Hov bodied it
@@jimmy2xtimes623 "pressure bust pipes, time to apply it now"
LL had a reputation for taking things the wrong way.
His ego and competitiveness wouldn't allow Canibus be in the same space for to long.
LL is a ledgend, But he can't mess with Canibus.
Canibus is to vicious for him.
Two times LL Cool J was shown be problematic. He couldn’t recognize a compliment, or recognize what is fiction and what is real during an acting role with the movie (any given Sunday)with Jamie Foxx LL Cool J acted a damn fool.
Bars 🔥Yeah that was a cold ass line. Food for thought.
You gotta love LL‘s honesty, but I think cannabis was coming from a more respectful place with that line, I never thought it was a negative shot at LL… and the first time I heard I’m bad by LL Cool J I was maybe four or five years old and I’m still a fan of LL but like I said, I think cannabis was being respectful, but all in all, I loved the battle between the two
Cannibus was right about you telling the world true you really didn't want him shine...
This is great. 1 minor correction lol
he didn't take canibus off the track...he.just clipped his verse cuz he didnt wanna feel bodied
Oh but JAYZ WOULDA TAKE HIM OFF THE RECORD
Facts
Because Jay Z is a woman like that.
@@thedarkerarchery3553
Jay z actually left Styles P verse on "Reservoir Dogs" it was about Jay
@@thetunkmaster I don’t give a F who you are so F who you are lol 😂 😂 word!!
2nd round knockout still one of the greatest diss tracks ever! LL never thought he would get bodied by Bus like that!
A dope beef. Canibus dropped a dope record & LL responded with that 🔥🔥🔥.
And this is why I love that song 🎵 DMX, TODD and Master P Method Man ❤ omg one of the best hip hop magics that was made and don’t get it twisted, Canibus did not disappoint at all regardless of!!! Period! He should be one of our legends also… Canibus.
And because of his ignorance He was on the receiving end of the best diss song in Hiphop…what a shame 😂🤷♂️
LL Cool J said Jay-Z would have took Canibus off the record. This is really funny.
I know right? But I'm not sure Jay Z would have done that because this situation has arisen before, he got bodied on his own song Renegade by Eminem🤣, and I don't even like Eminem, so from that Jay Z would have just left it in, the whole thing going over his head.🤣🤣
Ll hates jay but styles came at jay on his own track and jay left the verse so his theory is wrong
@@thedarkerarchery3553 that was Em’s song to begin with so technically Jay couldn’t have taken him off it. Plus-Em did didn’t out do Jay. Not even close.
@@eternallife Are you paying attention to the hip hop world? Literally everybody knows that, it's a classical fact in any measurable lyrical sense. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like Eminem. And how could it be Eminem's song when it's on Jay's album? If that was true it would look even worse for Jay on top of getting bodied in it.😂
@@thedarkerarchery3553 It was originally a song with Eminem and Royce da 5’9” Eminem took 5’9” off the song bc Hov wanted the song for his album.
Canibus is a lyrical beast. LL's ego was a bit over the top at times.
It's a play on words, a compliment and LL lacked the acumen to see it was complimentary.
The Goat 37 years in the business and still holding it down Legendary
Canibus versus was 🔥
Missed the part where he changed his verse to do that without giving Canibus a fair play heads up since he felt like it was a battle.
LL should've just handed the mic off of his arm to bis when he asked for it.
Its no surprise LL is rarely seen without sunglasses on. He needs them to hide them old lyin eyes.
@@rickmaybert4789 .....RARELY SEEN WITHOUT A HAT EITHER.
MAAANNN THAT CONE DOME IS INSANE
Truth.
Canibus would have done right wit it.
@@curtishawkins55 LMAO
@@DARKMATTER_7 .....YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT ✅
L was buggin.......it was a compliment.....he was threatened. All of rap was shook by Canibus!
The lol @ the end 😂😂😂😂😂 was like YEAH AND I HANDLE HIM 2😂😂😂😂😂😂
LL knew he got murdered and wasn't having it on his own song. Talking about he left them on yeah after you made him change his verse damn without him after the fact
That second round ko was one of the best diss records of all time and it destroyed LL in that battle but the industry made it seem like LL won the battle because he was an icon and thats foul because LL started the beef...
L is one of the smoothest pioneers out there .
L's laugh is crazy its like being on the wrong end of a gun...cannibus...you was & became food 😂😂😂
Canibus 🔥 LL .... showed how real beef is. Too bad LL wasnt at a level to recognize he was being honored.
🤔 Sometimes an ego can take you down a dark path and you don't even realize it! And I'm not just talking about LL with this rap "beef".. I'm talking about in real life.😳
😊You talk weird 😮
@@TownsRelaibleBronxstenian I do? 🤔
@@tennaj1367 don't worry, you're fine, I was just being a swine on RUclips comments, have a great month
@@TownsRelaibleBronxstenian respect ✌️
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What the ever LL was hating on him He know cannabis was amazing well amazing way above any rapper he has ever heard and LL was jealous LL was jealous of canibus
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 y’all niggas can’t take that LL be smashing all these niggas in a battle that’s why y’all saying he’s jealous stfu
Canibus* aka can-I-bus
@@Drive582 LL couldn’t touch Canibus lyrically.
Canibus is more deserving of the mic on his arm
Idk about more deserving actually not even close. I like Canibus but LL was literally one of the first great MCs to come out of hip hop in the 80s.
I remember watching “Going Back To Cali” on prime time MTV back when it was all just Hair Metal bands (I was 6). 14 Shots is my favorite album of his, LL, Ice T, and RunDmc pushed rap music into the mainstream in the 80’s while still maintaining the integrity of the culture.
Man enough to admit his ego wouldn't allow him to see that Canibus admired his style.
LL Living Legend
L always had a low ego. Salt abd pepper hurt his feelings. He wanted to open for them but they didn't like him.
No way LL could see can can... LL was a lover rapper to damn emotional...
Do you even know LLs resume before the softer type of rap he was going in the 90s? You clearly have no idea about LL in the 80s vs G Rap and others.
Most disrespectful response to a great compliment
LL... Real talk. I respect LL and Canibus!! 💯💪🏾✊🏾
Canibus won that shit. LL losing points for not thinking Canibus was actually paying homage to him
No he's not because the majority of argument you hear from people these days is " Look who on top, he making💲though and where's Canibus right now?" They won't just admit that dude got trampled on and off his own joint... popularity is what's important in their minds
@@ceeleewal1257 Incorrect. It was about Canibus saying he want the mic “paying homage to LL” but LL took it as a diss
LL didn't expect to take an L by going against Canibus 🎙🎯☠️
The second in his name
L.L knew exactly what he was doing & here’s why…
L.L’s lyrics: “You djj on my wanna borrow that/ You wanna idolize.”
Letting him know that he (Canibus) was idolizing his tatt was a dead giveaway that he knew. ✅🎯
“Yea I took his verse he bodied me on, cut half of it, then changed mines to respond to all of it.” Is what he meant to say 😂😂 LL a legend and a pioneer in the game fs 🎤 but the shit he did to cannibus was not only petty, but unnecessary considering all homie did was try to show you love. 🤦🏾♂️
Canibus was dope back in the day. Straight bars