I hope Ivan gets well. He is one of my favorite singers and now the alcohol has taken a huge turn on my faivorite band. I hope be gets better and this mans can go back to normal.
Thank you for posting this video. It was definitely not as bad as I expected. Yes there appeared to be some tension but i think they did a good job at keeping it together.
I can imagine Ivan isn't the easiest person to work with, but I can partly understand his frustrations: the band already has got a stand in singer ready to perform all their songs?! Crazy... only Ivan can bring their songs properly. I saw them back in 2015, best show ever. I hope Ivan gets his shit together and the band should only perform with Ivan or not perform at all.
Buecherwurm1974 ah der erste deutsche bzw. der erste der deutsch spricht. ich hof die bleiben zusammen weil ich bin erst seit kurzem fan und hab rock im park verpasst deswegen hoff ich die bleiben noch ein bisschen zusammen
They sent Ivan Back to rehab. Also, they sent the band out on stage before confirming that everyone was in the building. Ivan was not there at the time and they sent them there when no one was ready. They were also handed the wrong guitars and such during the show. Ivan wasn't in the building when they came out.
TheOtakuKnownAsWolf Thanks for the info.! It's hard to figure out what happens between band members. Especially when it usually 9ccures back stage! How late did the concert happen? I know they h ave had issues in the past so them asking Tommy to sing a song or 2 until they knew what the F*ck was up! He said he was on vacation and was friends w/ Ivan, you would think Ivan would be glad he bought him some time to get ready! Especially if he just showed up.
This is one of the performances that almost ended FFDP Ivan was still battling addiction and the band was strongly considering disbanding because of Ivan but then they decided to send him to rehab and them doing that and him getting sober saved this band
the concert seemed to be going very well for a while. hmm. zoltan had explained that they all had just been having a bad night, i doubt that this is the end of 5FDP and may i just say, ivan still sounded amazing as always ;))
Ahahaha, the video description made me laugh so hard: "Countering what media suggest, there was absolutely no fighting, break-up or other problems between the band members. More the opposite." How blind is the uploader?!
Not. I missed the guitar throwing bit because I got caught in the mosh pit and had other things on my mind. For the rest it was '5FDP business as usual' with provocations you would expect from the band. 34:34-35:00 possibly being the cause of events. Except from being smashed into from behind it was a good show. If things were so bad, why would Ivan at 53:48 say ''... and I am lucky enough to have them on my team'. Guess people see what they want to see.
Oh come on OP, Jason was practically flipping Ivan off the whole gig. Also if everything was fine, why did Ivan feel the need to publically humiliate Tommy like that just before Bad Company? Plus Jason has been slagging off Ivan on Instagram for close to a week now. People are seeing what's actually there in this case.
Judging by what Ivan said before Bad Company and before Jekyll and Hyde, it sounds like it's been planned that he was going to drop out of the band, and Tommy has been on tour with them, getting familiar with things, staying on stand by, that sort of thing. Like Ivan said, he wasn't supposed to be onstage "tonight", but was going to be the replacement in the near future. Just speculating.
Apparently they sent Ivan back to rehab after the way he behaved. I think he needs a psychiatrist to help him with his anger problems. I love Ivan's voice in FFDP, Tommy isn't bad either though. I just wish Ivan would get much needed help and spend more than just a week getting help. I don't want the band to break up. :(
I think you're bang on mate, I would be genuine surprised if Ivan is in the band come next year, Jason in particular really doesn't like him anymore it seems
You can clearly tell something's wrong... Wishing Ivan all the best and I really hope he can fix himself! Much respect for the guy from Bad Wolves finishing the tour with them.
It's official: Ivan has a severe drinking problem. Also, he clearly showed up drunk for work on this one. At exactly 37:35 Jason trows down his guitar and walks off (off camera, it's visible in other recordings). Ivan looks in his direction and improvises. Can't hide the struggle. After another lights-out break after the song ends, Ivan performs their mega-hit "wrong side of heaven" alone on stage, followed by his sorry-for-being-a-drunk song "I apologize". Tommy did a great job without warning for the opening (well... he had been traveling with them.... as backup?), and the backstage arguing between every other song only delayed the show a few minutes each time. But still painful to watch. I'm sure they're trying hard to keep Ivan on, but if his efforts at straightening himself out ends up failing, there will be an opening as lead singer in one of the coolest hard rock bands in the world. Biggest opportunity since Jason Newsted stepped down as bassist in Metallica (the next round is on Rob Trujillo). 5 days from now (June 23rd, 2017), 5FdP will be on center stage at the Copenhell festival. Without Moody (checked into rehab). All hail Tommy Vext. Trujillo never had it this easy.
I’m glad to see over the years Ivan has gotten clean but I’ve heard him say a few times that if things didn’t work out and he had left the band he would have wanted Phil from all that remains to be the new singer
No problems? What show where you watching? I've been going to metal shows for 10 years now, and have never seen such a disrespectful show (towards the crowd) and with so little interaction between bandmembers
Dennis de Mol The crew was messing it all up, they were giving the wrong guitars which means wrong tunings, they started the show not asking golf anyone was ready. Ivan wasn't even inside until half way through lift me up and he realized it started. Also Ivan was having ear pains and it was his last show before going back to rehab.
UltraJJTA Gaming he went to rehad because of this show, why else was Tommy vex there to pick up after him? a few fuck ups from crew happens sometimes, but that show was Just awful.... that beeing said, the free show a week later was pretty good, and gave back some trust about notgetting scammed out of my money for the next show
I saw many shows with ffdp and i must say that i dont like how ivan sounds ...i know u cant compare mp3 to live events but still, theres too big difference imo. Ivan voice live sounds too high, not the same as album versions. But still i enjoy it...i hope they wont leave him.
The fans should count themself lucky to have Tommy fill in on the Europe tour. The dude was thrown unprepared into the show, and fucking owned it up. Saw him at Copenhell, and he was better than i expected. Big probs to Tommy Vext.
the way the media is putting it is just for a publicity stunt and Ivan was in clear pain and i believe that they will be fine and after this it will only make the band stronger together. and besides they did announce that new tour this morning and i don't think they will cancel that anyway. and yes there are people that sound better than Ivan but 5FDP will not sound like 5FDP without him
loudwire.com/five-finger-death-punch-ivan-moody-exits-tour-tommy-vext-fill-in-vocals/ Well he is actually out for the rest of the tour (announced today)
Ivan Moody is out for the rest of the tour due to being unable to control his addiction to alcohol. He is currently in rehab, plans on coming back once he gets better.
I hope and wish whit all my heart that Ivan will come back this year and the 5FDP will work in this team Jason Hook Jeremy Spencer Chris Kael Zoltan Batory and Ivan Moody😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽
sure they didn't play a full set or even for a full hour but still it was entertaining and you got too see tommy vext being the Badass that he is sing a few songs. i do hope Ivan is successful in rehab this time cuz he is the only singer for FFDP just like he said.
While I'm happy to see Ivan back with the band.... In Dec I had the misfortune of going to a concert only to see Four Fingers & a Phil!!! Best part of the dang thing was Shinedown And the others. Yeah, I do feel cheated ripped off and the rest. While I understand the need for every veteran to have their rest and get what help they may need, and I deeply respect them for what they do every dang day & what they go thru, there's plenty of men & women out there everyday facing the challenges of life. This was a smack in the face in PA to all the people that showed up. Damn, Guess I was more let down then I thought... Get some help Ivan...
I can only conjecture as to what Jason's and Ivan's fight is about. Maybe it's because Ivan makes everything being about him because "HE is the only singer" and HE wants the audience to to yell his name (while Jason's shaking his head about it) and "HE called it Burn MF". I could be wrong and I wish I'm wrong because I fucking love 5FDP, it would be devastating if they split, but all this was just a little too suspicious (about 34:15 )
They were probably fighting about how they were playing and had another vocalist there and just started without him. Which he wasn't in the building at the time.
TheOtakuKnownAsWolf could be. But maybe there was another fight before the show and Ivan could have been angry and wanted to show them that the band is nothing without him. I'm just playing around with some thoughts, I'm just trying to understand all that
Rieke NoEpic i read an interview with Jason Hook and he said that he was relieved to have the “cancer “ cut from the band. 😬 i’m sure it’s really difficult to be professional and put on a good show when you have an active alcoholic as the lead singer. nevertheless i was grateful when Zoltan came out and said that they were standing behind Ivan and he would be back after addressing his issues. he looked like an entirely different person when he performed in Sioux City Iowa September 1st ~ it was awesome to see a healthy Ivan Moody. addiction is a beast and i admire anyone who addresses it and tries to stay sober. ♥️😁👊
I saw the Wu-Tang "W" on Tommy's shirt then saw the word "Massacre" and thought "Aww yeah reppin' his old band, Westfield Massacre." In my opinion, Tommy sounds better than Ivan and he has more of a stage presence, IMO
wow. that show was hard to watch. it seems that Ivan, other than being a drunk, has caught L.S.D.; Lead Singer's Disease. It's all about him and his ego. It's sad. their first two ... maybe 3 albums and tour cycles were top notch, but it's been a downward spiral since.
Why the hell do people keep saying shit like, I think Tommy is better, he has great energy, listen, YOU CANNOT GO ON ANOTHER MAN'S STAGE AND SING HIS SONGS AND HIS LYRICS AND SOAK UP THE LEGACY HE BUILT, period, Tommy vext is very talented, but this is not his band, his blood sweat and tears, it's Ivan's gig, plain and simple , you cannot take some one else's painting and just trace over it, it is art, expression, personal expression, even if someone can pull off your vocals , doesn't change the fact it is not the genuine article
"You haven't tried everything to bring me down" What? The song is called "Far from Home", and the line is "Your heavens' trying everything to bring me down".
Vext or Labonte , doesn't matter they both sound good in FFDP. its a douchebag band after all so they fit in perfectly , if i were labonte i'd leave all that remains as soon as possible following their last album which was a disgrace to a big name such as ATR.
I'll be honest I think they got more of a concert than we did in Worcester ma Ivan could hardly stand and we only got a little better than 20 min of a show
this performance shows the professionalism between the bands, even with one bands show damn near ending in a giant cluster fuck . ffdp will rise from the ashes . ivan needs to go back to motograter .. ohh wait lol he cant .. dudes ego is ridiculous .
Love Death Punch but that was as bad as it gets. Prayers for Ivan that he gets the help he needs too much tragedy in music these days. Hope these guys can get things together and not end up as another Guns and Roses
Saw Guns and Roses a couple days ago, they smashed through a 3 hour set, Slash, Axl and Duff all had great stage chemistry, Axl in particular seemed very happy to have the other 2 around, and it was just an all round great gig. Death Punch should aspire to being able to do similar. But every time I've seen them they've only done a 1 hour 10 min set and as this video shows, their chemistry can use some work
I hope to go again Monday. However, I got my tickets though TicketSwap which means I'm not the original owner. I called them and they said they are onto it, but still, it's frustrating being left in the dark so long about it.
All hope is gone Slipknot i heard ivan wants to do a corey taylor type thing and have 5fdp as well as another band...but idk if he can handle that if he is barely handling 5 by itself
Starting from 56:30 you seem him holding his ear with a face in pain. Other moments he is 'clearing'. Between 57:10 and 58:12 he is sheltering behind the drums and you can clearly see something is terribly wrong. I am not a physician but my first impression is some kind of ear infection. If so, that might explain why he absent the first two songs, the long pauses, and the instrument free versions of 'Wrong side of heaven' and 'Remember everything'.
ZieZoeZou there was a statement about the reason he wasnt there yet. idk tbh i hope its just that and that they didnt break up or anything i shoule be seeing em at graspop hope that they are back to the old 5fdp by then
I only know that there is a lot of hype around so called statements focusing on potential breakup and backstage fighting. No one is talking about that there might be some health issue. Look at 57:45-58:30 and decide for yourself. I am also puzzled about his statement '...because I know it's going to be all over the internet...'.
to all those who say "tommy SOUNDED better", what you don't get is that Ivan is Ivan, Tommy is Tommy! We don't care if Mr. Vext can reproduce the kind of voice Ivan has, because 1) he can't, and 2) he's not Ivan
Um where is the pit in any of these songs? Do they not do that in AllWhite People, Saskatchewan or wherever this Tilburg is? It's a hard rock show you faeries, break each other's faces for fucks sake! If you are just gonna stand there the venue might as well just add seats in the floor area. Goddamn I miss the 90s.
He's just an asshole, not a nutcase from what I've read. Apparently he's attacked Dino Cazares a couple of times and is known for flying off his rocker and loosing his cool.
I still think they should ask Phil Labonte to come back full time haha. Dude is a badass singer and he seemed to really connect with them. Dunno why they're still keeping that drunk around.
What a nightmare of a show! Ivan calling Tommy out like that & then playing Bad Company was so unprofessional it's ridiculous! Tommy sounded better anyway. Ivan needs his ego checked. That had to be embarrassing for the band, and terrible to do that to the fans. You could tell a lot was going on by all the time in between songs. 5FDP is better off without him.
Chad Ink watch all there other shows this year you'll see bad company was always in the line up there. N if your a true fan who started the band to start with not Tommy he is nothing but a tag along!
I know its part of the set list. I've been in the music business for over 15 years. There are unwritten rules in music...and to call someone out the way he did & basically call him "bad company" is unprofessional & something that you don't do to a fan, promoter & especially another musician. Btw, Tommy is way more than a tag along. He is an established musician & a sober living mentor. The pieces of the puzzle are clearly there, its just a matter of putting them together.
Chad Ink this exactly , I have many many things to say about this performance but what he did to Tommy was the most childish low blow thing you could do and you could tell Tommy was genuinely hurt and humiliated but held together like the professional he is . moody would of smashed Mic and stormed off if someone did this to him
Ew who is that guy trying to be the lead singer now?! Ivan didn't sound his best this show but to bring on another person to replace Ivan? Give me my money back. Death Punch would not/is not the same without Ivan.
That singer singing lift me up was actually really good!Hope everything works out with the band
Ivan isn't leaving the band.
If Tommy was the lead singer for good FFDP would become soft rock. He doesn't have the low growls for metal.
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I'm assuming that you never heard his band then....
I hope Ivan gets well. He is one of my favorite singers and now the alcohol has taken a huge turn on my faivorite band. I hope be gets better and this mans can go back to normal.
Thank you for posting this video. It was definitely not as bad as I expected. Yes there appeared to be some tension but i think they did a good job at keeping it together.
Love these guys. So glad Ivan got well.
I can imagine Ivan isn't the easiest person to work with, but I can partly understand his frustrations: the band already has got a stand in singer ready to perform all their songs?! Crazy... only Ivan can bring their songs properly. I saw them back in 2015, best show ever. I hope Ivan gets his shit together and the band should only perform with Ivan or not perform at all.
Show must go on. Reißt euch am Riemen und macht weiter.
Buecherwurm1974 ah der erste deutsche bzw. der erste der deutsch spricht. ich hof die bleiben zusammen weil ich bin erst seit kurzem fan und hab rock im park verpasst deswegen hoff ich die bleiben noch ein bisschen zusammen
Never seen a band hire a new singer before they fire the old one before
Nightwish did
They sent Ivan Back to rehab. Also, they sent the band out on stage before confirming that everyone was in the building. Ivan was not there at the time and they sent them there when no one was ready. They were also handed the wrong guitars and such during the show. Ivan wasn't in the building when they came out.
Queensrÿche did too.
TheOtakuKnownAsWolf Thanks for the info.! It's hard to figure out what happens between band members. Especially when it usually 9ccures back stage! How late did the concert happen? I know they h ave had issues in the past so them asking Tommy to sing a song or 2 until they knew what the F*ck was up! He said he was on vacation and was friends w/ Ivan, you would think Ivan would be glad he bought him some time to get ready! Especially if he just showed up.
they won't fire Ivan, he's leaving the band by himself
This is one of the performances that almost ended FFDP Ivan was still battling addiction and the band was strongly considering disbanding because of Ivan but then they decided to send him to rehab and them doing that and him getting sober saved this band
Ivan is living up to his last name
the concert seemed to be going very well for a while. hmm. zoltan had explained that they all had just been having a bad night, i doubt that this is the end of 5FDP and may i just say, ivan still sounded amazing as always ;))
It hurts to say it but Tommy puts so much more effort and pure enjoyment into live performances
I AM WEASEL that's because he hasn't been doing it for 12 years, everyone starts out that way
Tommy sings very good, I just checked his other bands, maybe I am gonna go this Monday too see them, I hope Ivan gets well.
Ahahaha, the video description made me laugh so hard: "Countering what media suggest, there was absolutely no fighting, break-up or other problems between the band members. More the opposite."
How blind is the uploader?!
Not. I missed the guitar throwing bit because I got caught in the mosh pit and had other things on my mind. For the rest it was '5FDP business as usual' with provocations you would expect from the band. 34:34-35:00 possibly being the cause of events. Except from being smashed into from behind it was a good show. If things were so bad, why would Ivan at 53:48 say ''... and I am lucky enough to have them on my team'. Guess people see what they want to see.
Oh come on OP, Jason was practically flipping Ivan off the whole gig. Also if everything was fine, why did Ivan feel the need to publically humiliate Tommy like that just before Bad Company? Plus Jason has been slagging off Ivan on Instagram for close to a week now. People are seeing what's actually there in this case.
Judging by what Ivan said before Bad Company and before Jekyll and Hyde, it sounds like it's been planned that he was going to drop out of the band, and Tommy has been on tour with them, getting familiar with things, staying on stand by, that sort of thing. Like Ivan said, he wasn't supposed to be onstage "tonight", but was going to be the replacement in the near future. Just speculating.
Apparently they sent Ivan back to rehab after the way he behaved. I think he needs a psychiatrist to help him with his anger problems. I love Ivan's voice in FFDP, Tommy isn't bad either though. I just wish Ivan would get much needed help and spend more than just a week getting help. I don't want the band to break up. :(
I think you're bang on mate, I would be genuine surprised if Ivan is in the band come next year, Jason in particular really doesn't like him anymore it seems
If ivan leaves death punch it wont be succsessful band the voice is what we all lov
"There were absolutely no problems with 5FDP"
"I'll let you guys know ahead of time, this is my LAST show with Five Finger Death Punch".
Zachary Strouse he went to rehab dude, there wasn’t any problems between band members
thanks for uploading man
You can clearly tell something's wrong... Wishing Ivan all the best and I really hope he can fix himself! Much respect for the guy from Bad Wolves finishing the tour with them.
It's official: Ivan has a severe drinking problem. Also, he clearly showed up drunk for work on this one.
At exactly 37:35 Jason trows down his guitar and walks off (off camera, it's visible in other recordings). Ivan looks in his direction and improvises. Can't hide the struggle. After another lights-out break after the song ends, Ivan performs their mega-hit "wrong side of heaven" alone on stage, followed by his sorry-for-being-a-drunk song "I apologize".
Tommy did a great job without warning for the opening (well... he had been traveling with them.... as backup?), and the backstage arguing between every other song only delayed the show a few minutes each time. But still painful to watch.
I'm sure they're trying hard to keep Ivan on, but if his efforts at straightening himself out ends up failing, there will be an opening as lead singer in one of the coolest hard rock bands in the world. Biggest opportunity since Jason Newsted stepped down as bassist in Metallica (the next round is on Rob Trujillo).
5 days from now (June 23rd, 2017), 5FdP will be on center stage at the Copenhell festival. Without Moody (checked into rehab). All hail Tommy Vext. Trujillo never had it this easy.
I’m glad to see over the years Ivan has gotten clean but I’ve heard him say a few times that if things didn’t work out and he had left the band he would have wanted Phil from all that remains to be the new singer
No problems? What show where you watching? I've been going to metal shows for 10 years now, and have never seen such a disrespectful show (towards the crowd) and with so little interaction between bandmembers
Dennis de Mol The crew was messing it all up, they were giving the wrong guitars which means wrong tunings, they started the show not asking golf anyone was ready. Ivan wasn't even inside until half way through lift me up and he realized it started. Also Ivan was having ear pains and it was his last show before going back to rehab.
UltraJJTA Gaming he went to rehad because of this show, why else was Tommy vex there to pick up after him? a few fuck ups from crew happens sometimes, but that show was Just awful....
that beeing said, the free show a week later was pretty good, and gave back some trust about notgetting scammed out of my money for the next show
I saw many shows with ffdp and i must say that i dont like how ivan sounds ...i know u cant compare mp3 to live events but still, theres too big difference imo. Ivan voice live sounds too high, not the same as album versions.
But still i enjoy it...i hope they wont leave him.
The fans should count themself lucky to have Tommy fill in on the Europe tour. The dude was thrown unprepared into the show, and fucking owned it up. Saw him at Copenhell, and he was better than i expected. Big probs to Tommy Vext.
the way the media is putting it is just for a publicity stunt and Ivan was in clear pain and i believe that they will be fine and after this it will only make the band stronger together. and besides they did announce that new tour this morning and i don't think they will cancel that anyway. and yes there are people that sound better than Ivan but 5FDP will not sound like 5FDP without him
loudwire.com/five-finger-death-punch-ivan-moody-exits-tour-tommy-vext-fill-in-vocals/
Well he is actually out for the rest of the tour (announced today)
Ivan Moody is out for the rest of the tour due to being unable to control his addiction to alcohol. He is currently in rehab, plans on coming back once he gets better.
yeah i know about it and this isnt the first time. though 5FDP isnt the same without ivan at any point, Tommy Vext is very good with the band
I hope and wish whit all my heart that Ivan will come back this year and the 5FDP will work in this team
Jason Hook Jeremy Spencer Chris Kael Zoltan Batory and Ivan Moody😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽
Heard that a new crew started working that night and started the intro song early without Ivan knowing.
The way Ivan said I hate it at 12:30 I felt that
sure they didn't play a full set or even for a full hour but still it was entertaining and you got too see tommy vext being the Badass that he is sing a few songs. i do hope Ivan is successful in rehab this time cuz he is the only singer for FFDP just like he said.
Such a great talent..wasted
They should hire a shrink and a film crew and follow them around while they record their new album ......oh wait. Seen that one already.
And dog shit it was.
I say keep the crazy. They might not move up many places, but they'll be the legit 5fDP.... y'know?
I think this whole "break-up" is a one time thing. The media has said it before and at Download England they played with no problems
Can't say I like this band at all, but good on that bass player for at least trying to deliver a solid show for everyone there though all that BS.
Same. I only watched this show to watch a train wreck
While I'm happy to see Ivan back with the band.... In Dec I had the misfortune of going to a concert only to see Four Fingers & a Phil!!! Best part of the dang thing was Shinedown And the others. Yeah, I do feel cheated ripped off and the rest. While I understand the need for every veteran to have their rest and get what help they may need, and I deeply respect them for what they do every dang day & what they go thru, there's plenty of men & women out there everyday facing the challenges of life. This was a smack in the face in PA to all the people that showed up. Damn, Guess I was more let down then I thought... Get some help Ivan...
I can only conjecture as to what Jason's and Ivan's fight is about. Maybe it's because Ivan makes everything being about him because "HE is the only singer" and HE wants the audience to to yell his name (while Jason's shaking his head about it) and "HE called it Burn MF". I could be wrong and I wish I'm wrong because I fucking love 5FDP, it would be devastating if they split, but all this was just a little too suspicious (about 34:15 )
They were probably fighting about how they were playing and had another vocalist there and just started without him. Which he wasn't in the building at the time.
TheOtakuKnownAsWolf could be. But maybe there was another fight before the show and Ivan could have been angry and wanted to show them that the band is nothing without him. I'm just playing around with some thoughts, I'm just trying to understand all that
I hope they will come together, but I think Jason got some other ideas.... maybe I am gonna see them this Monday cause Tommy is really good.
Rieke NoEpic i read an interview with Jason Hook and he said that he was relieved to have the “cancer “ cut from the band. 😬
i’m sure it’s really difficult to be professional and put on a good show when you have an active alcoholic as the lead singer. nevertheless i was grateful when Zoltan came out and said that they were standing behind Ivan and he would be back after addressing his issues. he looked like an entirely different person when he performed in Sioux City Iowa September 1st ~
it was awesome to see a healthy Ivan Moody. addiction is a beast and i admire anyone who addresses it and tries to stay sober. ♥️😁👊
I saw the Wu-Tang "W" on Tommy's shirt then saw the word "Massacre" and thought "Aww yeah reppin' his old band, Westfield Massacre." In my opinion, Tommy sounds better than Ivan and he has more of a stage presence, IMO
Ivan is one tough bastard to finish the performance
2:20 "Sorry, man!"
they was cool when matt snell used to play bass from what ive heard ivan and him had issues to
wow. that show was hard to watch. it seems that Ivan, other than being a drunk, has caught L.S.D.; Lead Singer's Disease. It's all about him and his ego. It's sad. their first two ... maybe 3 albums and tour cycles were top notch, but it's been a downward spiral since.
34:44 This is the moment when everyone was thinking that " this must be acted " but man what happened some time later is not cool
Why the hell do people keep saying shit like, I think Tommy is better, he has great energy, listen, YOU CANNOT GO ON ANOTHER MAN'S STAGE AND SING HIS SONGS AND HIS LYRICS AND SOAK UP THE LEGACY HE BUILT, period, Tommy vext is very talented, but this is not his band, his blood sweat and tears, it's Ivan's gig, plain and simple , you cannot take some one else's painting and just trace over it, it is art, expression, personal expression, even if someone can pull off your vocals , doesn't change the fact it is not the genuine article
"You haven't tried everything to bring me down"
What? The song is called "Far from Home", and the line is "Your heavens' trying everything to bring me down".
Thanks for pointing that out. Updated playlist.
being a good band is only half the work, you have to trust the equipement and staff too, and if they dont do well such as jasons guitar failing...
So after they released their new statement, is it worth buying tickets for the Europe-tour again?
Tommy kicks ass!
It sounds to me like Ivan was late because someone told him the wrong time so Tommy had to fill in.
34:13 "Do you want this to be my last show? Then I want you right now say Ivan!"
And you can see he likes to piss of the other guys.
Yeah, that's true :(
Ivan needs to get his shit together before there is no more FFDP.
Vext or Labonte , doesn't matter they both sound good in FFDP.
its a douchebag band after all so they fit in perfectly , if i were labonte i'd leave all that remains as soon as possible
following their last album which was a disgrace to a big name such as ATR.
I'll be honest I think they got more of a concert than we did in Worcester ma
Ivan could hardly stand and we only got a little better than 20 min of a show
The smokescreen fooled you ZieZoeZou
for the life of me, what is the name of the song that starts @ 41:06???
i think ivan is better tbh but tommy was good too id give ivan a ten and tommy 9 and a half
Why the fuck do so many people hate this band? Jesus Christ.
who's going next monday in 013?
37:48 something is thrown in the stage from the side and crashes near the drums...
I like Ivan better, only cause he's actually apart the bad. the other guy was alright.
I was surprised during"Lift Me Up" by the first guy's clothing. I thought that was Ivan for sure until he came out from backstage.
Lets recruit dat boiii
this performance shows the professionalism between the bands, even with one bands show damn near ending in a giant cluster fuck . ffdp will rise from the ashes . ivan needs to go back to motograter .. ohh wait lol he cant .. dudes ego is ridiculous .
is it just me that thinks ivan can´t sing as well as he used too
Love Death Punch but that was as bad as it gets. Prayers for Ivan that he gets the help he needs too much tragedy in music these days. Hope these guys can get things together and not end up as another Guns and Roses
Saw Guns and Roses a couple days ago, they smashed through a 3 hour set, Slash, Axl and Duff all had great stage chemistry, Axl in particular seemed very happy to have the other 2 around, and it was just an all round great gig.
Death Punch should aspire to being able to do similar. But every time I've seen them they've only done a 1 hour 10 min set and as this video shows, their chemistry can use some work
10:58
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Het was een vreemd concert, ga je volgende maandag weer?
I hope to go again Monday. However, I got my tickets though TicketSwap which means I'm not the original owner. I called them and they said they are onto it, but still, it's frustrating being left in the dark so long about it.
This is so hard to watch :(
tommy sounds pretty good, plus, he did a lot better than phil labonte. phil had the voice, but he barely sang when i saw them
Ivan looks like he's limping pretty bad too.
ig you can say Ivan's Moody
Ivan moody Is a badass singer and along with all the greats has problems hopefully he will fix them before the break him like so many others.
whats wrong with his ear at the end?
I think something messed up with his ear piece
Do u guys think Ivan will stay in the band because I read that they are. Taking a break
All hope is gone Slipknot i heard ivan wants to do a corey taylor type thing and have 5fdp as well as another band...but idk if he can handle that if he is barely handling 5 by itself
Arran Johnson I heard that too I just didn't know if it was true
is it just me or does Ivan look lije he is under the influence of something?
He was drunk this was one of his last shows before he was sent to rehab
Refund! Hour concert. lol
FFDP hört auf wegen Frau Antje! Roel Browers help! Roel 4 Borussia!
Ivan's Moody
how do you know he was in pain?
Starting from 56:30 you seem him holding his ear with a face in pain. Other moments he is 'clearing'. Between 57:10 and 58:12 he is sheltering behind the drums and you can clearly see something is terribly wrong. I am not a physician but my first impression is some kind of ear infection. If so, that might explain why he absent the first two songs, the long pauses, and the instrument free versions of 'Wrong side of heaven' and 'Remember everything'.
ZieZoeZou there was a statement about the reason he wasnt there yet. idk tbh i hope its just that and that they didnt break up or anything i shoule be seeing em at graspop hope that they are back to the old 5fdp by then
I only know that there is a lot of hype around so called statements focusing on potential breakup and backstage fighting. No one is talking about that there might be some health issue.
Look at 57:45-58:30 and decide for yourself.
I am also puzzled about his statement '...because I know it's going to be all over the internet...'.
So it was a bad joke? I can't understand everything that happened (
Rumors? Like the one about him being a drunk?
This is 5 finger death punch..its what they do lol
to all those who say "tommy SOUNDED better", what you don't get is that Ivan is Ivan, Tommy is Tommy! We don't care if Mr. Vext can reproduce the kind of voice Ivan has, because 1) he can't, and 2) he's not Ivan
Orso De Vero Yeah, absolutly right
Um where is the pit in any of these songs? Do they not do that in AllWhite People, Saskatchewan or wherever this Tilburg is? It's a hard rock show you faeries, break each other's faces for fucks sake! If you are just gonna stand there the venue might as well just add seats in the floor area. Goddamn I miss the 90s.
Hopefully we can lay this band to rest.
When people talk about the best metal vocalists, they never mention Ivan moody. Weird don't ya think?
Ivan is not leaving FFDP
That random dude sounds better than Ivan he also probably ain't a fucking nut case get him in the band lol
That random dude is Tommy Vext who did vocals on Divine Heresy' debut album. He ain't a nobody...
not a random dude though :D
I've never heard of em before lol
He's just an asshole, not a nutcase from what I've read. Apparently he's attacked Dino Cazares a couple of times and is known for flying off his rocker and loosing his cool.
I still think they should ask Phil Labonte to come back full time haha. Dude is a badass singer and he seemed to really connect with them. Dunno why they're still keeping that drunk around.
this wasn't a bad show at all, I don't see why people think so.
A bit short, esp. when you have to travel and book a hotel to see the show.
What a nightmare of a show! Ivan calling Tommy out like that & then playing Bad Company was so unprofessional it's ridiculous! Tommy sounded better anyway. Ivan needs his ego checked. That had to be embarrassing for the band, and terrible to do that to the fans. You could tell a lot was going on by all the time in between songs. 5FDP is better off without him.
Chad Ink watch all there other shows this year you'll see bad company was always in the line up there. N if your a true fan who started the band to start with not Tommy he is nothing but a tag along!
I know its part of the set list. I've been in the music business for over 15 years. There are unwritten rules in music...and to call someone out the way he did & basically call him "bad company" is unprofessional & something that you don't do to a fan, promoter & especially another musician. Btw, Tommy is way more than a tag along. He is an established musician & a sober living mentor. The pieces of the puzzle are clearly there, its just a matter of putting them together.
Chad Ink this exactly , I have many many things to say about this performance but what he did to Tommy was the most childish low blow thing you could do and you could tell Tommy was genuinely hurt and humiliated but held together like the professional he is . moody would of smashed Mic and stormed off if someone did this to him
Joshua Hale...couldn't agree with you more brother! Well said btw, that's exactly what would've happened.
Tommy sounded better than ivan
I agree! Ivan, you've been replaced!
GregK9 ivan shall never be replaced
Without Ivan there would be no FFDP. He has been there since the start and helped them become the group they are today. You can bet he will be back.
You'll may have to deal with it :/
well at the makeup concert yesterday he was by tommy
hey je stond niet eens zo ver van mij af ik stond direct voor Chris
love FFDP....but can't stand Moody !!!!
Ew who is that guy trying to be the lead singer now?! Ivan didn't sound his best this show but to bring on another person to replace Ivan? Give me my money back. Death Punch would not/is not the same without Ivan.
Tommy isn't bad at all. I think he sounds like a pretty nice replacement.
Worthless show
Guess that's why they are doing it again Monday for free.
teamrock.com/news/2017-06-16/five-finger-death-punch-to-play-free-tilburg-show-on-monday
I hate these douchebags trying to play hard music with cheesy lyrics
William Toutant go listen to your crap hip hop
Terrible!
did he go to rehab after this show for steroids?
oh wait, there's two different singers....this is all so weird