Edit : forgot to tell you Pela was using S5 Pearl on E2 Sustain team, not Those many Springs. I forgot to include it so hopefully people don't think Pela using his LC Note : E2 Acheron users can start with Pela Technique and actually deals more dmg than JQ on first wave...
I have E2S1 Acheron, E0S0 Silverwolf, E0S0 Aventurine, E6 Pela with Pearly Sweats. Who should I go for? Sparkle or Jiaoqiu or Robin (no signature for all maybe...)
Both Yunli and Jiaoqiu just serves as a break for me on pulling non stop since 1.6, gonna save on either Fei Xiao, Lingsha, or Obsedian (drip market pls) since Sunday has little to no chance of getting a drip marketing anytime soon.
True , I have e1 Acheron , I'm not sure whether to pull E2 acheron or pull JQ . I have e0s0 sparkle , she is just collecting dust and e0ss1 adventurine. I use pela + Gunaifen for my acheron.
I know i am 3 months late but e2 literally enables you to run robin with jiaoqiu which is just way better than pela and jiaoqiu, lol. What point were you trying to make?
i did the same test, numbers are pretty consistent. I think sparkle scales better but needs investment jq doesnt and can function out of the box with the right build. Both are safe bets imo but id say get sparkle just cause of the action forward. At the end of the day acheron is broken if u know how to stack buffs and debuffs u should be fine even at e0 with pela and gunaifen.
I feel JQ is just overkill at that point if you have E6 acheron. There will be very few situations where you need the extra crimson knot stacks to guarantee the kill. E2 sparkle would be the better choice imo as sparkle is way more universal and sources of defense shred scale extremely well with each other
It's only decent because of E1 Robin. You need a healer to use QPQ s5 otherwise there's just no way to refill her ulti. And Acheron at E0S1 is best without sustain.
@@wandersonvitor3054 thank you,but could you answer me this question pls if you dont mind...would be Robin be better than Tingyun?for jing Yuan..😅with ruan Mei in team
@@thareqky that's an expected number when you build her with 168 spd ddd eagle for example. Which is still better dmg wise than s1 + lower spd/ no vonwacq. Plus 200 crit dmg is still a big amount for avg e0 acheron user to actually reach. I just dont want to change relics so this is the better way
On E0, 27% damage increase vs Gui+much faster stack generation. The stronger the enemies would become and the longer E2 Acheron would kill them, the more value JQ would produce with extra stacks on every enemy turn.
@@sydorovich2532 You have to remember most E0 Acheron will have to use crit rate Body instead of Crit DMG . Also this is 1 cost vs 2 cost so it's not like both are on the same playing field.
@@hiroshi6699Yes, but I saw too much JQ hate agenda that he is a sidegrade to Pela in Acheron team when he in fact isn't and if you normalize the value per pull, he+his lightcone surpasses the E2 Acheron pull unless your Sparkle is really cracked.
@@sydorovich2532but all the same wouldn’t that mean he’s just dependent upon his lc to at least be 10% better than pela on a acheron team? and don’t even get me started that the stacks he gives to acheron for her to one turn ult got straight up reduced. and the way it’s going for him rn his value to the acheron team isn’t high either if you’re not gonna try to do low cycle clears so idk man
Edit : forgot to tell you Pela was using S5 Pearl on E2 Sustain team, not Those many Springs. I forgot to include it so hopefully people don't think Pela using his LC
Note : E2 Acheron users can start with Pela Technique and actually deals more dmg than JQ on first wave...
JQ with lightcone or without? It is pretty significant damage boost for him, especially at E0 Acheron.
@@sydorovich2532 with S1
@@hiroshi6699 Is Sparkle S1?
@@sydorovich2532 DDD Sparkle. Nope
Is JQ sig LC better than Pearls LC for Pela?
Sustain less jq is wild. Your the only person i've seen show it off.
Ty for this I’m currently using guin and was looking to replace
I have E2S1 Acheron, E0S0 Silverwolf, E0S0 Aventurine, E6 Pela with Pearly Sweats. Who should I go for? Sparkle or Jiaoqiu or Robin (no signature for all maybe...)
Both Yunli and Jiaoqiu just serves as a break for me on pulling non stop since 1.6, gonna save on either Fei Xiao, Lingsha, or Obsedian (drip market pls) since Sunday has little to no chance of getting a drip marketing anytime soon.
I think Sunday have more chance of getting drip marketed than Obsidian.
damn for e2 acheron jq e0s1 is just 10% more dmg?, that with his lc, bruh...
E0 Acheron JQ Pela + sustain >> E2 Acheron Pela Sparkle + sustain
I understand why everyone is angry about JQ 😂
True , I have e1 Acheron , I'm not sure whether to pull E2 acheron or pull JQ . I have e0s0 sparkle , she is just collecting dust and e0ss1 adventurine. I use pela + Gunaifen for my acheron.
@@Thivesh_ If you like JQ, take it. Even if you then decide to go to E2 Acheron, he will be the best nihility for her.
If you don't like, skip it.
@@Thivesh_since you have Sparkle, I would get E2 Acheron.
This is why you get e2 acheron and JQ to replace pela
I know i am 3 months late but e2 literally enables you to run robin with jiaoqiu which is just way better than pela and jiaoqiu, lol.
What point were you trying to make?
would u rather recommend to pull for jq e0 or e2 acheron instead
Now we can just watch video and get no answer on to pull Sparkle or Jiaoqiu next patch.
Damn, really?
i did the same test, numbers are pretty consistent. I think sparkle scales better but needs investment jq doesnt and can function out of the box with the right build. Both are safe bets imo but id say get sparkle just cause of the action forward. At the end of the day acheron is broken if u know how to stack buffs and debuffs u should be fine even at e0 with pela and gunaifen.
I've been playing HSR from the start and till today my Pela can't find a the Pearl LC...so still going to need JQ for Acheron...
SAME. I can't even get a single copy of pearl 💀
Thx for the video
😭 why haven't i found the video comparison for e0s1 acheron. bc i think if someone has e2 acheron, JQ is ez skip.
Bro i have question
i have e2 acheron + sparkle e0 , both with sign, should i get jiaoqiu to replace pela ?
or, better aim e1 sparkle ?
e1 sparkle
@@hiroshi6699 love it, thanks brother
I have a well build E6 Acheron and iam planning to get either E1S1 Jiao OR Sparkle E2S1 for her. What do u suggest?
I feel JQ is just overkill at that point if you have E6 acheron. There will be very few situations where you need the extra crimson knot stacks to guarantee the kill. E2 sparkle would be the better choice imo as sparkle is way more universal and sources of defense shred scale extremely well with each other
May you use Acheron + Jiaoqiu + Robin please? I heard it's the strongest Acheron team
It's only decent because of E1 Robin. You need a healer to use QPQ s5 otherwise there's just no way to refill her ulti. And Acheron at E0S1 is best without sustain.
Do u think i should get both jiaoqiu and sparkle? i hav e2s1 acheron with e6 pela (pearl lc s5) and aventurine, No sparkle
@@limchinjiekl7633 e2 sparkle
@@hiroshi6699 same question as above... if I cant get e2 sparkle, is it still worth trying to get e0 sparkle?
You recomend to pull for him ?
I have Aventurine + LC , I have Pela E6 and Acheron E2S1
Use silverwolf or sparkle instead of him
@@risen9127 I have Silver Wolf but without LC and Don't have Sparkle !
E2 Ache ? Skip. Get Sparkle
@@hiroshi6699 ok... Not even for DoT is it more effective than a Ruan Mei?
@@nicolascardoso8484not worth pulling fot DoT team. Stick with Robin/RM
I have e1 acheron planning to get e2 and idk if i should skip jiaoqiu and just try to get sparkle and maybe someday get her e2 i need help
Get sparkle and then get E2 acheron
@@Milly2216 Yeahh prob.. but i kinda want Lingsha and Feixiao currently 270 pulls and 60pity with 50/50 so im still debating
@@tsuyu6015 what sustains you have?
@@Milly2216 Just Fu xuan
@@tsuyu6015 Do you have firefly or boothill? And do you have Gallagher? If yess, then how much "E" of Gallagher you have?
is acheron,jiaoqiu,bronya,aven good?
Very
Are there other DPS I could use him with besides Acheron?
Everybody technically since dmg vulnerability buffs all types of dmg. Argenti, Dr Ratio and Black Swan+ Kafka can also use him.
Basically all DPS can use him, since he is Debuffer. But other DPS prefer Buffers Harmony characters like Sparkle, Ruan Mei or Robin
@@wandersonvitor3054 thank you,but could you answer me this question pls if you dont mind...would be Robin be better than Tingyun?for jing Yuan..😅with ruan Mei in team
150% crit damage sparkle seems like that's too low. but i have her s1 so maybe that's why i think it is 😅
@@thareqky that's an expected number when you build her with 168 spd ddd eagle for example. Which is still better dmg wise than s1 + lower spd/ no vonwacq. Plus 200 crit dmg is still a big amount for avg e0 acheron user to actually reach. I just dont want to change relics so this is the better way
@@hiroshi6699 ahh gotcha, tbf for comparing the difference between pela and JQ in that comp that should be enough
What's the best stats/set for sparkle on an E2 Acheron team ?
And with E2 sparkle how much better is quantum set ?@@hiroshi6699
I have a 162 spd 198cdmg bronya lc e0s0 sparkle but probably a 162 spd 140cdmg eagle set + s5 ddd sparkle is better than mine.
what lc was on gui?
Jq sig. Those many Springs
@@hiroshi6699 i see, its still pretty sad bro keeps catching strays each beta version
Does he worth pulls though?
On E0
For E0 Acheron, yes. For E2 Acheron, no!
@@wandersonvitor3054 why not, shouldnt it serve E2 Archeon good as well?
wut da hell guinaifen++
Barely any difference on E2 Sustain.
Midqiu
On E0, 27% damage increase vs Gui+much faster stack generation. The stronger the enemies would become and the longer E2 Acheron would kill them, the more value JQ would produce with extra stacks on every enemy turn.
@@sydorovich2532 You have to remember most E0 Acheron will have to use crit rate Body instead of Crit DMG . Also this is 1 cost vs 2 cost so it's not like both are on the same playing field.
@@hiroshi6699Yes, but I saw too much JQ hate agenda that he is a sidegrade to Pela in Acheron team when he in fact isn't and if you normalize the value per pull, he+his lightcone surpasses the E2 Acheron pull unless your Sparkle is really cracked.
@@sydorovich2532but all the same wouldn’t that mean he’s just dependent upon his lc to at least be 10% better than pela on a acheron team? and don’t even get me started that the stacks he gives to acheron for her to one turn ult got straight up reduced. and the way it’s going for him rn his value to the acheron team isn’t high either if you’re not gonna try to do low cycle clears so idk man
@wkjro his stacks got reduced from infinite to 6 per ult lol. It's still a massive benefit to Acheron.
Is he worth pulling for Argenti?
No