Pela E6S1(Jiaoqiu lc) Vs Jiaoqiu E0S1 ft Acheron E2S1 vs MOC 2.4 0 cycle
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024
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Acheron E2S1 crate 56, cdmg 240, atk 3600, light orb 4x piooner 2x izumo
Aventurine E0S1 crate 48 cdmg 220 def 4100, 4x piooner 2x broken keel
Sparkle E1S1 159 spd 220 cdmg 4x messanger 2x broken keel
Jiaoqiu/Pela 160 spd 160 ehr 4x eagle 2x vonwacq
It’s V1 chat. By no means will this be comparable to launch. Could be better, could be worse. Just putting this out there.
it's v2
@@TheoDimitry V2 with no changes
When is V3 available?
@@Whopper-PixbellsV3 within some hours for now
@@RealMelodyHinari Thx
And here I was hoping for Ruan Mei tier nihility support... alright... 😭
v3 tomorrow, lets see what will change
and don't copium hard another unit like Ruan mei will take some time to come
@@Vindenci I mean yeah, but harmony is eating good while nihility (supports) is starving. If they can make OP harmony, what stops them from making OP nihility
ngl i cried abt this 💀 why couldnt they make him not niche asf? i love that man and ill get him anyways but i dont want to feel like im losing dmg just cuz hes not with acheron
@@kaikaikai4477 "what stops them from" broke playerbase stops them. not me though, my money is UP
@@kaikaikai4477 op nihility? you mean like acheron?
This is so sad I don’t want the yae miko worst than fischl situation coming to star rail 😢 (pink fox real friend)
Fischl is better at c6, without it Yae is better is most teams
@@Maiky5857still fucking sad, the fact that yae needs fischl to perform well is insane
@@critanddam9031 as a on fielder Yae? Yes, but with dendro she's better
@tokyo-sz4zd in overall kit pela is so much better in MOST team and this is the FACT
@tokyo-sz4zd well, kids these days always go around saying FACT.
Reasons why u pull him for acheron: 1. e0 Acheron 2. More stacks faster
Thats basically it. You can choose to pull him if u are dolphin just for e2 because its still even the slightest better than pela so yeah.
even for E2 it's better because any debuffer + Jiaoqiu will allow more ultimate rather than 1 debuffer + 1 harmony
😂😂😂@@OlexiVR
@@OlexiVR Are you crazy? 🤣Are you crazy? Acheron E2 has 3 stacks per action, put it with Bronya or Sparkle, you will have 6 per cycle. Basically Jiaoqiu ultimate stacks, and you don't have to wait for the enemy to attack.
Remember , they also work very well toghether too (Pela+Jiaoqiu) in a Acheron team
for e0/e1 yes, but e2+ no its better to use one nilhility + harmony.
@@bluuchandesu yeah but not everyone has parents with money for that 😭
@@smirking_moon never claimed anyone did but it was a clarification plus this showcase is showing off an e2 acheron.
@@bluuchandesu thank you captain obvious
@@smirking_moon acheron banner release along with hoyo birthday events, u can easily get her e2s1 if u have at least 100 pull before that banner
“Worst then Pela” they said
Base on a showcase which both of them finished in the same amount of cycle 😂.
He clearly better than pela, yes they perform the same in this scenario, but have you people ever think about PF and apocalytic shadow? 🤷♂️
they would perform the exact same in apoc, but in PF yes he is better, would actually make acheron viable in there
The problem is if he ends up being a niche support mostly to Archeron. While Pela is viable in various compositions
He's by far the best Archeron support. But if ends up being only that, people without her will mostly lose interest in pulling for him
@@Jarubimba yes im agree with you in some way it is also a let down, but to be frank this game already going to that way since couple patch before, even not only niche support we even get a niche dps.
Also based on what you said, in my opinion Jiaoqiu is for someone who already have Acheron or at least someone who already play this game since dont know maybe since 1.x version of this game, cause again if we are new its better to have dps or sustain limited character to help us advancing this game further
Acheron E2-Haver here.. was hyped about him but yeah..
From my POV he is basically just a Ult Battery (exclusive to Acheron) and makes PF easier.. but is it worth it? @@Jarubimba
@@SekaiCake it depends on you tho, do you like Acheron that much it makes you want to have her best support?
If yes, then he is really worth your pull, cause just like you said, he is just battery for Acheron ult, meanwhile Acheron ult is her main kit.
He is basically just there to stack Acheron ult, damage wise they basically the same.
He really needs a good buff to put him above other debuffers if he's gonna be worth pulling
Rip they went and made him a DoT hybrid really…
I'm on with that ngl
Tbh as of now i think i will skip him maybe i can change my mind after v4-5 but .....he is better then pela i think but definitely not that much better that i should waste 80-160 pulls ( plus i am so excited for feixiao )
I be honest. I don't care if he's good with Acheron or not, as long he can fire debuff that is enough.
Last time I saw people say a character is just the 5 star version of "x" it was Kazuha and he ended up being the most disgusting support in genshin. Even if gets nothing in v3, I'm still swiping for him and lighr cone. Cant have an acheron team without everyone's signature lc.
He got nerfed a lot
you miss the point. buff value wise Succrose still better. Grouping wise kazuha better. but its not the same with this Jiaoqu (?) and Pela. if your Acheron at E0 Abillity pela to still debuff and generate sp is stupidly high. and if using pearless sweat S5 thats mean Pela cannstack 56% deff shreed and its insane honesly.
we already have Ruan Mei as Kazuha of HSR, this V3 fox definitely no another Kazuha
Kazuha is much more stronger and universal unit than any of HSR’s units tho. Because you can’t really use chars in any other than designed state and kazuha even more universal than ruan mei
@@feyandhisstuff9888 they are not even in same game, and you arguing about who is stronger, LOL
Why wait until it becomes acheron’s turn before using her ultimate. Since you were maxed, she missed out on stack(s). Should’ve ult’d right after sparkle’s.
I'm guesing u meant at 2:46???
Hes doing that cause he want acheron to have sparkle buff first before ult
Given the new changes(the one that makes him and his LC DOT based) could you do E0S1 Jiaoqiu vs E6 Guinaifen with Jiaoqiu’s LC?
He’s still ass
Jiaoqiu Is the new kokomi something useful, new and interesting but it was better before the nerfs And although the damage difference is a little more than the difference of 8000 and more, I only think that it would do better in pure fiction, but in the rest I prefer until a support dedicated to ultimate comes out.
I'm hoping for something similar to Robin but Nigility works for many things but performs best in one area which I think is what they tried to do but didn't work out.
Remember that e0s0 acheron with e0s0 jq e0s0 robin and qbq galangher 0cycles 😂 not possible with pela btw
Idk man this guy seems like a side grade for pela guess I'll just save my jade for other characters because doing 100k more DMG when Acheron already doing 1 million seems kinda pointless to me
Omg thank you for the vid
Redo again for v5
Acheron e4+lc, pela e6, galgher e6 and rm+lc is enough for me xD just wait another dps for second team, dont hv enough sj for firefly btw 😢
Bro cooked himself
can you try pela + sw vs jiaoqiu in AS
So... he's E6 Pela. I was so hyped for Jiaoqiu before because he was rumored to be an E6 Pela AND a sustain. Now he's just the most skipable character of all time. Well my Gepard will be happy to hear it, he won't be out of a job! 😂 Is it just me or did Aventurine do nothing but sustain for this team? At least give him Trend. Although enemies actively tried to avoid hitting him so even that might not have done anything lol.
Jiaoqiu is still in beta, wait for at least v3 before saying that bs.
@@The0desss I’m not going to cope about him going back to being a solo sustain. If it happens I’ll be happy to be proven wrong but it won’t unless the beta testers complain and even then it’s a slim chance.
@@bjornnilsson2941he was never going to be a solo sustainer. It was reported and rumored that he could heal, yes. However, the healing was also reported to be very minuscule and by no means good enough for solo sustain. 0-cycle is diff story though.
@@thouartseraph ok not Luocha level but since you can sustain even with Welt for short battles, if Jiaoqiu had a heal he could probably have sustained for 2-3 cycle clears which is real all Acheron needs.
@@bjornnilsson2941 Acheron doesn't really need anything but more Light cone options for F2P if you ask me.
they do the same
so tis worth pull the lc instead midiaoqiu
skip, save your valuable hard earned jades
Unless you don't have E2 Acheron
Who asked??
@@NamRuto can people not get any more obnoxious? this is a comparison of a character’s viability *in battle* vs a similar character with the same purpose in the same team. if you like the character, pull. but dont yap and cry about it in spaces where, clearly, you are not the target audience 😭😭
@@r_quiem6288 You suppose to tag and say this to that Owen guy. Not me xd
@@NamRutome
I want that lc on my pela idgaf about midjao
Please do pela vs jiaoqiu in dr ratio team
Hmm.. Deal cycle is strange..😢
man they couldve made so much money off him but instead they made him a bit better than A 4 STAR. HOYO WHY DO YOU MAKE HARMONY CHARACTERS SO INSANE AND THEN NIHILITY CHARACTERS SO TRASH LIKE ARE YOU SERIOUS
Why not together 😂
E2 Acheron lol 🦖🦖🦖
@@Fernando-pg5sn not every one whales bro. At this point we lucky to even have the 5 stars at the rate they're releasing them
Hes good for e0 acheron, this is comparison for e2 acheron
Can u so a e1 vs e0 jq
agora o jogo esta soltando a mao dos elementos fogo kkk pq topaz nem vou falar sobre kkk
4 star sidegrade WTF hoyo cook?
pela is truly the xingqiu of hsr
I remember one dude was claiming that Acheron is TOP tier while using trash supports like pela….
I wonder when pela became trash….
@@SlL222 to be fair acheron have a free charcater called pela who is better than some limited 5*. Cof cof im looking at you seele fraudfly and black swan.
@@SlL222Tell me a single team where Pela>RM or Pela>Sparkle, not a single one, she is strong but not enough to compare
@@raphzer0131 what? Who says pela>>> than limited supports you mentioned?
0:30 How did Acheron get her 9th Stack fot ultimate??
e2
can you show the builds at the end please ?
They are in the description
That... Barely made any difference?
He gives a lot of stacks for acheron ulti, dmg wise is very similar to pela, the stacks are useful in pf or if you don't have e2 acheron
@@giuseppe99gs I don't even use Pela on my acheron team anyways. I use SW which is more damage. He does seem extremely underwhelming for a 5 star.
@@Msaber2012 it his v1 kit, he will definitely will be buff/rework
@@Msaber2012Since when a debuffer wanted to deal huge dmg?? 💀
@@NamRuto what does that even mean? 🪨🥥🐆🎁🛍
Not worth to pull at all LMAO
Who asked?? And its still in V1. HSR players couldnt read lol🐧
@@NamRutoand who ask you? It’s v2 wth
@@pyn.p4511 V2 of him had no changes whatsoever. And not worth pulling is a bit... yeah. This is an e2 Acheron - and both him and Pela are finishing on the same cycle. In PF or AS, specially if you have e0 - as most players do - he is way more valuable. His value was always his debuff stacks for acheron - debuff wise vulnerability is still better than def shred.
@@pyn.p4511and the V3 is usually the massive change with V4 adjusting the V3 changes just like with Acheron and FF post V3/4 for them to where they are now.
@@pyn.p4511 Another Honki Star Bucks Player still cannot read moment😭😭
Easy skip.
Why Pela wear Jiaoqiu's LC?
Pré-nerf. The LC was not exclusive to DoT until V3.
Is opening with acheron's tech on calus a private server thing only?
I'm so glad, that he worth to pull
is pela better than silverwolf?
In multiple targets?
Yes
Just a npc after all
Deal more 10% , yes it is worth it 😀
He's a support? I thought he will be in DoT team 😅
He is Nihilty/Debuffer (Increasing DMG) and also does some DMG here and there
He have some DoT in his kit
But not a strong one
He is more like a debuffer