Man you sure remind me of Uncle Jesse from the Dukes of Hazard. I used to live in Pahoa. Where the cast of characters outside the lava museum looked like extras from a Pirate of the Caribbean movie set.
Great Video, I've lived all over O'ahu and Above Hilo and Also out Hamakua, Now I live in Puna and I hate it here. I am only renting as I don't own a house. But I feel bad for ever moving my family to this part of the island because of a "deal" You are right that there are no deals. You get what you pay for and we seem to have gotten the worst. Only been in this area less than six months and everything is destroyed by mold including our car. The rain never ends but there are no streams. Fire ants are infested all over the yard. Chop shops just down the road with cars taking up their entire driveway. A long long drive to get into town. All I want is a little sunshine but that's way too much to ask here. I feel sorry for all the other suckers that live in my neighborhood especially those that bought and built here. It is a green hell the price is cheap even cheaper than a lot of the mainland but ITS FOR A REASON. It's a horrible place to live with endless rain, rat lungworm, crime, little fire ant infestations, mold, and very high cost of things like food or electricity. It is a scam for those on the mainland who may see a low price on a piece of land in puna and think WOW FOR THST MUCH I CAN LIVE IN PARADISE. NO! FOR THAT MUCH YOU CAN LIVE IN HELL. If I owned this property I would feel it's a sin to sell it to some sucker. All desirable places on this island are usually very expensive even worse than Oahu if you want some sunshine. The price is low because nobody wants it and those that buy it are the ones who lose in the end. Hawaiian Acres and Fern Acres are A CURSE = ACRES. Shoot and I'm not even mentioning the hazard of lava just ask the people in Leilani how good of a deal there property was that they invested so much love into. LEI-LANI WAS A LIE & NAIL for those suckers too. Don't believe the lies about big island being an affordable paradise as I once believed living on O'ahu. You will get what you pay for and if you got it cheap expect hell rather than paradise.
You do sound rather unhappy. I've been here in Puna for years and love it, but I've said it isn't for everyone. I wasn't drawn here for the deals though. I spent twice what I had intended to spend on my property. It was worth every penny and sits in the upper 80th percent of quality land in Puna. You get what you pay for. Hope things work out for you. Aloha
Thank you for sharing your very honest feedback and sorry to hear about your negative situation. I know it’s easier said than done but could you not develop a system to deal with all of those things? For example, if there’s a lack of sun, can you make it a part of your lifestyle schedule to drive to the areas that do get sun? With mold, can you open the windows or have a dehumidifier in the rooms? For the diseases, I thought that the catchment systems were very good? Maybe have it upgraded? Or if you’re referring to the food, maybe change your diet to not eat those foods prone to it? (Sorry if I’m getting something totally wrong but I think you see my point) The one part that worries me is the crime because that’s something you can control and even if you had a gun, it could still lead to trouble after you’ve protected yourself. Just to give you some reference, in the mainland we’re having tons of water droughts and fires so I’m very worried about food security so yes, mold isn’t an issue for me at this very moment but being thirsty or hungry in the future is. Mahalo in advance and good luck
@@cyrusjulian187 You can run a dehumidifier but that uses a TON of electricity. The electricity here is the most expensive in the US by far. The other issue with the dehumidifiers is they don't actually kill mold they only can hold it back a little bit from new mold growing. The highest issue with the dehumidifiers other than what I've mentioned is each one only covers one room. So you'd need several depending on the size of your house and one in the car even. And last but not least they are practically un usable unless you live in a cold area. Because they cause the house to get much hotter and put out heat. Which is counter productive if you live in a hot and humid climate already. Our catchment system sucks and has no filters only a little chlorine and it's a rental so we can't exactly overhaul the place. Hope this answers a few of your questions.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 My brother lives on fifty acres near volcano and other than having a similar amount of rain his property is a million times better. I am merely speaking on the majority of those lower income families and properties in puna where life is very much a hellish experience. Good on you for buying twice as high as you were hoping that was my favorite point about your video that there are "NO DEALS" because this is the idea that attracts a lot of people to puna is the "DEALS" which are simply scams.
@@justcallmemama91 Wow, I'm so sorry to hear of your predicament and hope you're able to find a solution to your situation. Your posts along with Bill have been very informative and insightful so mahalo so much for sharing. One more question though just out of curiosity, doesn't Hamakua also get a lot of rain or does Puna get way more? If so, what was the difference between living there and Puna SPECIFICALLY referring to the mold issue? Good luck
Mahalo for this video! I’ve been binge watching dozens of videos and reading tons of online threads the last few days and yours provided many of the answers that I was looking for. Thanks
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Mahalo Bill. Thanks for the offer. I actually emailed you at your yahoo email. But this video definitely answered most of them. Thanks again for your candor and practical advice!
@@cyrusjulian187 You're welcome. I have several other videos on line about life in HI. Here are a few. ruclips.net/video/hUTJ4sr9x9w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/03QxJg5lsnk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/EvqtWuYQSS4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/jF1WpSbSncI/видео.html
So true about HPP. love living out here but man is it a pain driving to hilo everyday. Hopefully find a day to come visit your nursery soon. Been dying to visit 😊🌱🌴
The Aloha spirit and maybe the calming effect of warm and humid and green... Having lived also in a variety of places with differing levels of tension it seems like a block probably makes a difference, lot sizes. I think you've about beat this topic to death over the years but no doubt people will keep asking. I know here, I almost bought a similarly sized house with the same amount of land 8 miles east of me in an identical biome and climate but later found that the crime rate was about ten times worse and water has to be boiled, constant power outages, minimal internet infrastructure (satellite only), crappy roads, you name it. The price difference was only about $20,000 which in house terms is nothing. That got me a house in a location with almost no problems, nicer house too overall. I sometimes get anxious about the mortgage despite money growing around me, I suspect it'll all work itself out, just not used to debt and loans. I'm a lifetime IT Technician and developer but I've lived under tarps and in dugouts. It probably pays to meet your neighbors at least once before you buy in.
Saw a video done in Puna by a young couple just tellin it like it is. Number one “you can’t have anything nice” …. 1) If you go out or away for a few days you will come back to all of your stuff having been stolen by tweezers. 2) you can’t go around barefoot because there’s no dirt, only lava rock. 3) if you swim in the river, the current is too strong and you could end up getting sucked into a lava tube 4) all of your clothes etc get moldy, as well as your stuff and your house. 4) bike riding to town to buy your food etc is a chore and you everything costs an exorbitant amount of money…. There was at least 30 minutes of drag out truths but I forgot who they were so, alas. Love your posts
I live on soil, I never swim in a raging river and no one messes with me or my stuff. I do get mold if I'm not careful though. People live the life they live. I sure as hell don't live their life! On the other hand if I supported their ideas maybe people would stay away from the Island.
I like your honesty, not everyone is going to agree with everything you said, but certainly you're trying to provide a service or help. I think you have pin pointed some truths here. most important hawaii is a place where positive intention, gut feeling, and intent, can be very rewarding in meeting great people. but very true as well you need to be aware and consider your surroundings. for example when homesteading most people tend to keep their homes private dogs in yards, someone always home, tall bushes, fencing, some keep cars in garage. no one likes anyone knocking on their door. "It's the brother text me first" and its come on down and enjoy a beer every time. If you're not invited you might be at the short end of a barrel or a dog. I lived there five years in puna, I miss it every day now. community is awesome. it does take a certain type to live in Puna. maybe its just a bit to Hippy for some. some real brainiacs live there also. shirt logo for Puna "we are all here because were not all there" If like like buying sushi at 7/11 or enjoy tropical breezes life can be simple. and maybe a comedy or two in pahoa. and dancing at uncle roberts. mind you puna scares the **** out of high horse types but when you're a bit odd you tend to fit in.
I live on the same planet with the rest of you but I don't live in the same world. I live in Puna. If the gate is open the world is welcome to stop by. I make my living from tourist and locals purchasing from me. If I was a dick head about people coming up the driveway I would be as poor as the homesteaders that believe the rest of the world is trouble. To me, the rest of the world is a wallet. The gun is here for people who want to be a problem but I don't attract that sort of crowd. Please drop in when ever the gate is open and leave the contents if your wallet. Being open to the world makes me rich, well known and respected. I only do videos like this one because people ask me to. I have no interest in inviting people to live here. It is already over populated. I couldn't give a rats ass about what people think of my videos. If they actually had anything to say worth listening to they would likely have their own channel instead of dropping in to let me know I'm stupid. I am aware of the sort of folks you refer to and I feel sorry they have to live in a world like that of their own making. We manage to pick up on about 20% of what is actually happening here. The other 80% is in our imagination and often misguided.
Aye Bill shhhh your giving away us gardeners secrets of how we get plants man. 😂 nah they never know with us pros just taking a little piece of that,clipping of this and ohh an interesting fruit there. We make it look like nothing happened
I agree, gardeners are thieves because we make it look like nothing is happening. The stories that major nursery growers give over drinks and dinner prove my point. It takes a real desire to spread natures bounty to reach the level that seeds and cuttings fall in your pockets. The industry would not be the same.
Fern Forest is the Wild West 😝 you have one house that looks like a scene from Beirut, with a burned out upside down car and junk everywhere next to a house that is really nice with flowers and nice plants and a mowed easement 😂 Thanks for the great deal on the white pineapple slips! I have them planted all down my driveway.
Yes, that sort of checker board area is just what I mean. No matter how much you care about your property if the dude next door never takes a trip to the dump you have a problem.
What do you think the future is gonna be for Fern Forrest area I own a 3 acre lot there meaning electric water how many more years before it will have that? Enjoy the videos good job keep it up my bradded aloha.
It has electricity on a lot of roads there now, I wouldn’t hold my breath on the water though, most of this side of the island is on catchment, not just FF.
Only a guess but my suspicion is you could receive high speed internet years before any utilities. Currently there is money in Washington to increase high speed internet. There are no plans and no clear funds to expand the electric grid or the water system here. People off grid is an Island norm and my guess is the could remain the norm for the foreseeable future. Look for continued developments in solar technology to solve the electric issue. As for water, people use the rain. The expansion of the water system would happen only by individuals putting up money to see it happens. I spent eight grand to run a pipe 3/10 of a mile from the main highway. Residents of Fern Forest will likely be in the same situation.
Green acre homestead is a great RUclips channel. Once they got their home fixed up they moved it. They hooked up water from the street and everything else. Great how to do it and great people
Trust but verify! You have to look at all of the surroundings, smell the house, smell the air, listen to the background noises, go at night and listen to your neighbors, and their dogs. You do need to perform due diligence.
It's not all palm trees and paradise! You need to live there to understand. There's a lot of hatred, resentment from Hawaiians. And there's drugs, cock fighting, dog fighting. Etc...
I'm in Ainaloa and have been the victim of 2 different felony's just this year. My friend in mountain view gave up on growing lychee because his crop kept getting stolen before he could get it. Abandoned cars are common in lower puna too.
Yes, Ainaloa is one of those places where trouble is pretty easy to find. The lots are small, everyone has their nose in everyone else's yard. I've grown crops on this Island for years and never had anything swiped. Having crops in the field usually draws customers with money in hand rather than thieves. Picking fruit is hard work. But then, there is no place to stop in front of my farm. It's fenced and you have to pull into the driveway. If you park on the road you'll have your car wrecked. Never the less fruit theft exists on all the Islands. They had to paint the bread fruit on Maui pink so they could track it. I must live in the right area. In two decades the only thing that ever got stolen here was a tarp while I was in CA. We had a guy living next door for a while who didn't realize that I'm dangerous. He's long gone.
@@meetontheledge1380 Punatic refers to anyone crazy enough to live in Puna. Cockroaches can live anywhere and are common criminals. Like most places Puna has ghettos. If you live in one you can expect all manner of antisocial behavior.
Living in San Diego I relate to what Bill says about location. If you want a safe, sterile, overcontrolled place to live, go to Coronado - a piece of land in San Diego Bay.
Fremont was a similar situation. Safest most over regulated place I have ever lived. When we vote for safety we give away freedom. Eventually the loss of freedom becomes the greatest danger to our safety. You give away control and the people you give control too often abuse the privilege.
For making a living in a crazy place like Puna, yeah, selling plants and trees, which have pretty close to no "street value", is a good idea. Crackheads are not going to steal seedlings; can you imagine a crackhead trying to hustle seedlings for a rock? If you deal with anything valuable, in Puna/Pahoa you can expect a lot of trouble. Might as well set up in S. Africa.
I'm not sure where you live but we have no "crack" heads anywhere around here. "Crack" is the street term for free based cocaine. Cocaine is fairly pricy stuff. Around here the addicts prefer the much cheaper meth. Since they mix everything with fentanyl today, the meth heads are getting hard to find because they overdose and die.
I live in Truckee, CA. My family bought a home in Hilo 50 years ago so I visit often. My son and I spent 10 days in May ‘23 at an Airbnb in Fern Acres; a few gated, landscaped homes but also properties looking like junk yards and probably the neighbors were meth heads. However my biggest concern was about aggressive dogs running loose. I was unable to take a walk; bummer. Sadly aggressive dogs were also a problem in Hilo in a nice neighborhood up Kaumana way. Any thoughts on the mindset that thinks this is acceptable? Are there a lot of issues involving dog attacks? But yes, in general Hawaii Island east side is overflowing with Aloha Spirit. ❤❤❤Mahalo
There are ghettos in every part of the country, Hawaii is no exception. There are ways of telling what an area is like before you purchase. I've owned this property for 20 years and it has been a wonderful experience. One of the better places I have lived. Aloha
If you refer to pakalolo as wild flowers then I probably know people here who know him. Did he recently run a cannabis judging? If you mean actual wild flowers then no. Growing wild flower seed here would be very difficult. the rainy climate spoils seeds.@@MarbRedFred
ALL Property in the USA is only "Rented " from the Government..you do not " Own " it your only in temporary possession of it....goes the world over...it's the small print no one reads except the G mans lawyers...
This English system continued on in the US when the US government adopted English Common Law in 1776. There is still a Crown in American law, revolution notwithstanding. Title transferred from the English Crown to the American Crown after the Revolution, but the concepts of land rights are still the same. People who own land still have to pay an annual rent (tax) to the Crown (the government), to maintain their ownership of their land. The highest form of rights a private individual can have over land is an Estate in Fee Simple, which is Norman French for a simple feudal estate, the same as it was in feudal England. It is dressed up in somewhat different legal terms in American statutes, but the basic concept is still the same. In the US, nobody except the government can really own land free and clear. You are only renting the land from the government, and if you fail to pay your annual rent (taxes) the government can evict you from it (i.e. seize your land).
Christian Cramer has it right. Hawaii does have lease hold property that is 100 year terms to the county. It also has fee simple property which is ownership same as any US state. I live on fee simple. IT is in a trust that keeps it in the family for one additional generation.
No one ever owns anything on this planet. We are all on borrowed time. Ownership is an illusion, so what? We all engage it. Please voice your complaints about reality some other place. They have no value or purpose here. I can not help you.
The art of real estate photography for online home listings is to enhance the good features, gloss over the bad, and leave out the ugly neighbor's house.
Absolutely. Recently we had a friend sell their house here. The realtor sent in a cleaning and decorating crew followed by the photographer. I had always felt their place was a dump. When I saw the photos I could not belief how good it looked. I feel sorry for the people who bought the place if they only saw the photos. Boots on the ground!
There will always be people who believe they do not have what they need and try to take it from other people. Sad that they do not realize how rich they already are. I agree that some locations on this Island your home would be trashed if you left it. On the other hand I had a home with no caretakers here for 10 years and never had a problem. Real estate is all about location. In the right places theft is very rare. In the wrong place they would steal a full litter box. Fear of being ripped off is more common than the actual act.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 then don't trust your sources. And if you're an old fart already, you should know better than to EVER trust the news. Google "gell-man amnesia."
I used to work at the hospital and still know quite a few people there. Our hospital was close to max capacity a lot BEFORE covid. I can tell you that our hospital is FULL.
I can identify with what he is saying. Pāhoa bus stop has security, no vest. This place different. Don’t leave anything in the back of my truck and lock my doors and keep da cameras on. #clickclack
Pahoa and Hilo bus stations seem to draw the worst the Island has to offer. Some areas are very good to live in, others are full of cockroaches. A friend sometimes pull security duty at the Hilo bus station, work is much better at the chocolate factory! Choose wisely. Aloha
No place for civilized people. Bikers, Pakalolo growers, Meth labs, guns, trip wires and burned out autos to hide the evidence. We also have some great farmers, artists, astronomers and the native people have made Hilo the cultural center of Hawaiian revival. Some people dream, others have nightmares and most just live, day to day.
Might want to edit your video...you just told the cockroaches you get money on a regular basis for plants and fruit at your home..some people will kill you for 10 bucks in your pocket..
Wow, glad I'm not you. I don't see the threats you live under. Selling plants is hard work with little profit and not exactly the sort of thing that criminals look for. Better off they rob 7-11. They actually have some cash in the till
@@GreenGardenGuy1 by dying first. You can't stop the tide of humanity, all you can do is lament it's wave of ruin. They're going to keep chopping down the forests to make more human hives, and they'll swarm down the streets in their cars, to go to the jobs they hate, while the beauty gets destroyed. And yes, I realize the irony of being human while saying this.
@@newvocabulary You have demonstrated why I live the way I live, and do what I do. Our world view is flawed and requires an adjustment. We are already paying the price. I do not find complaining about the situation to be fruitful. It doesn't position the mind for positive and creative solutions to problems. Everyone has a small part to play.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Very well said Bill! We all have a part to play in fixing the mess humanity created. And we've all had a small part in creating it. You're my hero because you're doing something about it in your way. And you're teaching us all how to live in harmony with the planet and each other. And you're a great example of how to live in positivity. Thanks for your service!
@@johnatyoutube Mahalo. I made a commitment to myself as a young man to try and help people leave the world in better shape than we found it. I have been on plenty of soap boxes before I resorted to youtube. The internet made this mission a bit easier. We all have a part to play in this if you feel it matters.
I'm not sure how to take that comment. I live here. I was very careful about choosing the location. I love it, best place I've lived out of 20 or so US locations.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it's not a world's problem it's a Hawaii problem. It's particularly my world problem because it affects local like me and you just live in it
@@ravvent6787You would do well to get help for this. What you express is a personal. problem. It is your issue, not mine. You are telling me you are unhappy but there is nothing I can do for you. Don't waste your time here. Look for someone who can heal your pain. Aloha
@GreenGardenGuy1 it's not your fault it's your blood that carries on with colonialism.....it affects all us locals/natives, I don't expect you to understand. You are not welcomed. Aloha goodbye go back home to the mainland
I avoid ever working my mind up enough to hate anything. That sort of conviction takes belief and I have none. The only reason I ever travel to Pahoa is for Luquin's Mexican and Gray-C's Vet. Otherwise it is overrated in my opinion. Nanawale is too tight. The lots are too small, everybody has their nose in everyone else's business. Areas where lots are 1 to 1600 acres are more pleasant.
Everyone should be able to just open carry firearms. I will tell you that we visited Oklahoma and it is just a friendly, safe feeling type of place! We didn’t see a single cop either. So is Mountainview...there is only one way out of some subdivisions if you are thinking of doing some crime..although the gun laws are screwed up in Hawaii(in my humble opinion)..although we heard a shotgun in the middle of the night..probably a farmer harvesting a pig...just went back to sleep...now in Pittsburgh, we hear gunshots too....after yelling...different situations..ps..yes we have COVID shots
I find Hawaiian laws to be reasonable and intelligent. I a marksman with both long rifle and hand guns. I have owned and used guns most of my life. I believe people who need to walk around in the streets with guns to be seriously mentally ill. Maybe if I lived in East St. Louis or some other extremely dangerous place I would feel different but I have lived in some pretty dangerous places and never saw the need to walk around with my pistol hanging out of my pants. The fact that I am still alive at 70 and have no bullet holes in me proves the fact that open carry is a foolish and stupid thing based on deep seated fears and insecurities not any real need. It's about men who never grew up and are scared of their shadows. If there ever was a need to carry a gun around it would be to protect myself from idiots that think they need to walk around with a gun.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Agreed! I have been in 2 dangerous situations in the span of a month. Both involved people having a breakdown firing guns! One day I looked out my window after waking up to find a man walking around with a shotgun shooting at people. Another time involved my wife and I at Sunday brunch in a corner table when a goof ball walked in waving a .45 at us. It changed my viewpoint.
Man you sure remind me of Uncle Jesse from the Dukes of Hazard. I used to live in Pahoa. Where the cast of characters outside the lava museum looked like extras from a Pirate of the Caribbean movie set.
Not my favorite TV show.
Great Video, I've lived all over O'ahu and Above Hilo and Also out Hamakua, Now I live in Puna and I hate it here. I am only renting as I don't own a house. But I feel bad for ever moving my family to this part of the island because of a "deal" You are right that there are no deals. You get what you pay for and we seem to have gotten the worst. Only been in this area less than six months and everything is destroyed by mold including our car. The rain never ends but there are no streams. Fire ants are infested all over the yard. Chop shops just down the road with cars taking up their entire driveway. A long long drive to get into town. All I want is a little sunshine but that's way too much to ask here. I feel sorry for all the other suckers that live in my neighborhood especially those that bought and built here. It is a green hell the price is cheap even cheaper than a lot of the mainland but ITS FOR A REASON. It's a horrible place to live with endless rain, rat lungworm, crime, little fire ant infestations, mold, and very high cost of things like food or electricity. It is a scam for those on the mainland who may see a low price on a piece of land in puna and think WOW FOR THST MUCH I CAN LIVE IN PARADISE. NO! FOR THAT MUCH YOU CAN LIVE IN HELL. If I owned this property I would feel it's a sin to sell it to some sucker. All desirable places on this island are usually very expensive even worse than Oahu if you want some sunshine. The price is low because nobody wants it and those that buy it are the ones who lose in the end. Hawaiian Acres and Fern Acres are A CURSE = ACRES. Shoot and I'm not even mentioning the hazard of lava just ask the people in Leilani how good of a deal there property was that they invested so much love into. LEI-LANI WAS A LIE & NAIL for those suckers too. Don't believe the lies about big island being an affordable paradise as I once believed living on O'ahu. You will get what you pay for and if you got it cheap expect hell rather than paradise.
You do sound rather unhappy. I've been here in Puna for years and love it, but I've said it isn't for everyone. I wasn't drawn here for the deals though. I spent twice what I had intended to spend on my property. It was worth every penny and sits in the upper 80th percent of quality land in Puna. You get what you pay for. Hope things work out for you. Aloha
Thank you for sharing your very honest feedback and sorry to hear about your negative situation. I know it’s easier said than done but could you not develop a system to deal with all of those things? For example, if there’s a lack of sun, can you make it a part of your lifestyle schedule to drive to the areas that do get sun? With mold, can you open the windows or have a dehumidifier in the rooms? For the diseases, I thought that the catchment systems were very good? Maybe have it upgraded? Or if you’re referring to the food, maybe change your diet to not eat those foods prone to it? (Sorry if I’m getting something totally wrong but I think you see my point) The one part that worries me is the crime because that’s something you can control and even if you had a gun, it could still lead to trouble after you’ve protected yourself. Just to give you some reference, in the mainland we’re having tons of water droughts and fires so I’m very worried about food security so yes, mold isn’t an issue for me at this very moment but being thirsty or hungry in the future is. Mahalo in advance and good luck
@@cyrusjulian187 You can run a dehumidifier but that uses a TON of electricity. The electricity here is the most expensive in the US by far. The other issue with the dehumidifiers is they don't actually kill mold they only can hold it back a little bit from new mold growing. The highest issue with the dehumidifiers other than what I've mentioned is each one only covers one room. So you'd need several depending on the size of your house and one in the car even. And last but not least they are practically un usable unless you live in a cold area. Because they cause the house to get much hotter and put out heat. Which is counter productive if you live in a hot and humid climate already. Our catchment system sucks and has no filters only a little chlorine and it's a rental so we can't exactly overhaul the place. Hope this answers a few of your questions.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 My brother lives on fifty acres near volcano and other than having a similar amount of rain his property is a million times better. I am merely speaking on the majority of those lower income families and properties in puna where life is very much a hellish experience. Good on you for buying twice as high as you were hoping that was my favorite point about your video that there are "NO DEALS" because this is the idea that attracts a lot of people to puna is the "DEALS" which are simply scams.
@@justcallmemama91 Wow, I'm so sorry to hear of your predicament and hope you're able to find a solution to your situation. Your posts along with Bill have been very informative and insightful so mahalo so much for sharing. One more question though just out of curiosity, doesn't Hamakua also get a lot of rain or does Puna get way more? If so, what was the difference between living there and Puna SPECIFICALLY referring to the mold issue? Good luck
Mahalo for this video! I’ve been binge watching dozens of videos and reading tons of online threads the last few days and yours provided many of the answers that I was looking for. Thanks
Perhaps I can help with the answers you didn't find.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Mahalo Bill. Thanks for the offer. I actually emailed you at your yahoo email. But this video definitely answered most of them. Thanks again for your candor and practical advice!
@@cyrusjulian187 You're welcome. I have several other videos on line about life in HI. Here are a few.
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Arriving in Hilo in about a week and this video helped me out immensely.
Thank you. Enjoy your trip.
Thank you for your honesty and wisdom.
Paradise is a state of mind, not a state in the union. The more people want to come live in "paradise" the uglier things get here. Aloha
Great explanation video! thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
So true about HPP. love living out here but man is it a pain driving to hilo everyday. Hopefully find a day to come visit your nursery soon. Been dying to visit 😊🌱🌴
You're welcome. Usually 9 to 4 as long as the gate is open.
The Aloha spirit and maybe the calming effect of warm and humid and green...
Having lived also in a variety of places with differing levels of tension it seems like a block probably makes a difference, lot sizes. I think you've about beat this topic to death over the years but no doubt people will keep asking.
I know here, I almost bought a similarly sized house with the same amount of land 8 miles east of me in an identical biome and climate but later found that the crime rate was about ten times worse and water has to be boiled, constant power outages, minimal internet infrastructure (satellite only), crappy roads, you name it. The price difference was only about $20,000 which in house terms is nothing. That got me a house in a location with almost no problems, nicer house too overall. I sometimes get anxious about the mortgage despite money growing around me, I suspect it'll all work itself out, just not used to debt and loans. I'm a lifetime IT Technician and developer but I've lived under tarps and in dugouts. It probably pays to meet your neighbors at least once before you buy in.
Always have your boots on the ground before you you pull out the check book. Aloha
Saw a video done in Puna by a young couple just tellin it like it is. Number one “you can’t have anything nice” …. 1) If you go out or away for a few days you will come back to all of your stuff having been stolen by tweezers. 2) you can’t go around barefoot because there’s no dirt, only lava rock. 3) if you swim in the river, the current is too strong and you could end up getting sucked into a lava tube 4) all of your clothes etc get moldy, as well as your stuff and your house. 4) bike riding to town to buy your food etc is a chore and you everything costs an exorbitant amount of money…. There was at least 30 minutes of drag out truths but I forgot who they were so, alas. Love your posts
I live on soil, I never swim in a raging river and no one messes with me or my stuff. I do get mold if I'm not careful though. People live the life they live. I sure as hell don't live their life! On the other hand if I supported their ideas maybe people would stay away from the Island.
I like your honesty, not everyone is going to agree with everything you said, but certainly you're trying to provide a service or help. I think you have pin pointed some truths here. most important hawaii is a place where positive intention, gut feeling, and intent, can be very rewarding in meeting great people. but very true as well you need to be aware and consider your surroundings. for example when homesteading most people tend to keep their homes private dogs in yards, someone always home, tall bushes, fencing, some keep cars in garage. no one likes anyone knocking on their door. "It's the brother text me first" and its come on down and enjoy a beer every time. If you're not invited you might be at the short end of a barrel or a dog. I lived there five years in puna, I miss it every day now. community is awesome. it does take a certain type to live in Puna. maybe its just a bit to Hippy for some. some real brainiacs live there also. shirt logo for Puna "we are all here because were not all there" If like like buying sushi at 7/11 or enjoy tropical breezes life can be simple. and maybe a comedy or two in pahoa. and dancing at uncle roberts. mind you puna scares the **** out of high horse types but when you're a bit odd you tend to fit in.
I live on the same planet with the rest of you but I don't live in the same world. I live in Puna. If the gate is open the world is welcome to stop by. I make my living from tourist and locals purchasing from me. If I was a dick head about people coming up the driveway I would be as poor as the homesteaders that believe the rest of the world is trouble. To me, the rest of the world is a wallet. The gun is here for people who want to be a problem but I don't attract that sort of crowd. Please drop in when ever the gate is open and leave the contents if your wallet. Being open to the world makes me rich, well known and respected. I only do videos like this one because people ask me to. I have no interest in inviting people to live here. It is already over populated. I couldn't give a rats ass about what people think of my videos. If they actually had anything to say worth listening to they would likely have their own channel instead of dropping in to let me know I'm stupid. I am aware of the sort of folks you refer to and I feel sorry they have to live in a world like that of their own making. We manage to pick up on about 20% of what is actually happening here. The other 80% is in our imagination and often misguided.
This is so on point
Thanks for watching. Aloha
I also live in Puna. off Ainoloa. Great video.
I'm up the mountain in the cool mist with the cattle farms.
Aye Bill shhhh your giving away us gardeners secrets of how we get plants man. 😂 nah they never know with us pros just taking a little piece of that,clipping of this and ohh an interesting fruit there. We make it look like nothing happened
I agree, gardeners are thieves because we make it look like nothing is happening. The stories that major nursery growers give over drinks and dinner prove my point. It takes a real desire to spread natures bounty to reach the level that seeds and cuttings fall in your pockets. The industry would not be the same.
Fern Forest is the Wild West 😝 you have one house that looks like a scene from Beirut, with a burned out upside down car and junk everywhere next to a house that is really nice with flowers and nice plants and a mowed easement 😂
Thanks for the great deal on the white pineapple slips! I have them planted all down my driveway.
Yes, that sort of checker board area is just what I mean. No matter how much you care about your property if the dude next door never takes a trip to the dump you have a problem.
Mahalo! Just watched this one. '
Thanks for tuning in.
What do you think the future is gonna be for Fern Forrest area I own a 3 acre lot there meaning electric water how many more years before it will have that? Enjoy the videos good job keep it up my bradded aloha.
It has electricity on a lot of roads there now, I wouldn’t hold my breath on the water though, most of this side of the island is on catchment, not just FF.
Only a guess but my suspicion is you could receive high speed internet years before any utilities. Currently there is money in Washington to increase high speed internet. There are no plans and no clear funds to expand the electric grid or the water system here. People off grid is an Island norm and my guess is the could remain the norm for the foreseeable future. Look for continued developments in solar technology to solve the electric issue. As for water, people use the rain. The expansion of the water system would happen only by individuals putting up money to see it happens. I spent eight grand to run a pipe 3/10 of a mile from the main highway. Residents of Fern Forest will likely be in the same situation.
IF some one wants to put up the money they can make a lot of things happen here.
Green acre homestead is a great RUclips channel. Once they got their home fixed up they moved it. They hooked up water from the street and everything else. Great how to do it and great people
Trust but verify! You have to look at all of the surroundings, smell the house, smell the air, listen to the background noises, go at night and listen to your neighbors, and their dogs. You do need to perform due diligence.
Often the nose, knows.
Very good one. Talking dude who know the stuff.
I generally keep my mouth shut when I do not have proper information. Thank you
Sometimes when you live in paradise you tend to forget how blessed you are.
I agree. Just did a video called "Sometimes I Forget"
It's not all palm trees and paradise! You need to live there to understand. There's a lot of hatred, resentment from Hawaiians. And there's drugs, cock fighting, dog fighting. Etc...
I'm in Ainaloa and have been the victim of 2 different felony's just this year. My friend in mountain view gave up on growing lychee because his crop kept getting stolen before he could get it. Abandoned cars are common in lower puna too.
Yes, Ainaloa is one of those places where trouble is pretty easy to find. The lots are small, everyone has their nose in everyone else's yard. I've grown crops on this Island for years and never had anything swiped. Having crops in the field usually draws customers with money in hand rather than thieves. Picking fruit is hard work. But then, there is no place to stop in front of my farm. It's fenced and you have to pull into the driveway. If you park on the road you'll have your car wrecked. Never the less fruit theft exists on all the Islands. They had to paint the bread fruit on Maui pink so they could track it. I must live in the right area. In two decades the only thing that ever got stolen here was a tarp while I was in CA. We had a guy living next door for a while who didn't realize that I'm dangerous. He's long gone.
@@meetontheledge1380 Punatic refers to anyone crazy enough to live in Puna. Cockroaches can live anywhere and are common criminals. Like most places Puna has ghettos. If you live in one you can expect all manner of antisocial behavior.
Hey green garden guy! You sell plants? How do I get ahold of you?
The farm is pinned on Google but you can start with my email. greengardenservice@yahoo.com
Living in San Diego I relate to what Bill says about location. If you want a safe, sterile, overcontrolled place to live, go to Coronado - a piece of land in San Diego Bay.
Fremont was a similar situation. Safest most over regulated place I have ever lived. When we vote for safety we give away freedom. Eventually the loss of freedom becomes the greatest danger to our safety. You give away control and the people you give control too often abuse the privilege.
Vehicle theft is extremely common on the big island. Especially Toyota trucks!
I agree. They love Toyota 4 wheels here. Lucky for me I drive an EV. No one wants these at the moment.
It's seem like I have know a man for years, he spoke just it where, on this paradise comments sense still exists even in Puma ,Aloha.
I've never been in a better place. Puna rocks.
For making a living in a crazy place like Puna, yeah, selling plants and trees, which have pretty close to no "street value", is a good idea. Crackheads are not going to steal seedlings; can you imagine a crackhead trying to hustle seedlings for a rock? If you deal with anything valuable, in Puna/Pahoa you can expect a lot of trouble. Might as well set up in S. Africa.
I'm not sure where you live but we have no "crack" heads anywhere around here. "Crack" is the street term for free based cocaine. Cocaine is fairly pricy stuff. Around here the addicts prefer the much cheaper meth. Since they mix everything with fentanyl today, the meth heads are getting hard to find because they overdose and die.
I live in Truckee, CA. My family bought a home in Hilo 50 years ago so I visit often. My son and I spent 10 days in May ‘23 at an Airbnb in Fern Acres; a few gated, landscaped homes but also properties looking like junk yards and probably the neighbors were meth heads. However my biggest concern was about aggressive dogs running loose. I was unable to take a walk; bummer. Sadly aggressive dogs were also a problem in Hilo in a nice neighborhood up Kaumana way. Any thoughts on the mindset that thinks this is acceptable? Are there a lot of issues involving dog attacks? But yes, in general Hawaii Island east side is overflowing with Aloha Spirit. ❤❤❤Mahalo
There are ghettos in every part of the country, Hawaii is no exception. There are ways of telling what an area is like before you purchase. I've owned this property for 20 years and it has been a wonderful experience. One of the better places I have lived. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1hey man are you familiar with a man named angel who runs a wild flower farm in pahoa?
If you refer to pakalolo as wild flowers then I probably know people here who know him. Did he recently run a cannabis judging? If you mean actual wild flowers then no. Growing wild flower seed here would be very difficult. the rainy climate spoils seeds.@@MarbRedFred
You can have it. I have family in Ainaloa.
That's fine, thanks, but you can keep it. I live in Canney Farm lots already and like it. Not interested in Ainaloa.
I've heard some people say after 100 years your land title is null and goes back to the state. Is there any merit in this rumor?
ALL Property in the USA is only "Rented " from the Government..you do not " Own " it your only in temporary possession of it....goes the world over...it's the small print no one reads except the G mans lawyers...
This English system continued on in the US when the US government adopted English Common Law in 1776. There is still a Crown in American law, revolution notwithstanding. Title transferred from the English Crown to the American Crown after the Revolution, but the concepts of land rights are still the same. People who own land still have to pay an annual rent (tax) to the Crown (the government), to maintain their ownership of their land. The highest form of rights a private individual can have over land is an Estate in Fee Simple, which is Norman French for a simple feudal estate, the same as it was in feudal England.
It is dressed up in somewhat different legal terms in American statutes, but the basic concept is still the same. In the US, nobody except the government can really own land free and clear. You are only renting the land from the government, and if you fail to pay your annual rent (taxes) the government can evict you from it (i.e. seize your land).
Christian Cramer has it right. Hawaii does have lease hold property that is 100 year terms to the county. It also has fee simple property which is ownership same as any US state. I live on fee simple. IT is in a trust that keeps it in the family for one additional generation.
No one ever owns anything on this planet. We are all on borrowed time. Ownership is an illusion, so what? We all engage it. Please voice your complaints about reality some other place. They have no value or purpose here. I can not help you.
No that's crazy...true in Mexico
The art of real estate photography for online home listings is to enhance the good features, gloss over the bad, and leave out the ugly neighbor's house.
Absolutely. Recently we had a friend sell their house here. The realtor sent in a cleaning and decorating crew followed by the photographer. I had always felt their place was a dump. When I saw the photos I could not belief how good it looked. I feel sorry for the people who bought the place if they only saw the photos. Boots on the ground!
The most common crime in Puna is theft. Caretaking a house or homestead is a common gig here for that reason.... Gotta have a watchdog.
There will always be people who believe they do not have what they need and try to take it from other people. Sad that they do not realize how rich they already are. I agree that some locations on this Island your home would be trashed if you left it. On the other hand I had a home with no caretakers here for 10 years and never had a problem. Real estate is all about location. In the right places theft is very rare. In the wrong place they would steal a full litter box. Fear of being ripped off is more common than the actual act.
And a 12 gage is helpful too!
ICU is not full. Nephew just got out for covid, said the hospital was pretty empty. He had a whole room to himself for most of his stay. No lie.
My information is drawn from two hospital employees and the local new reports. One works in ICU, I trust my sources.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 then don't trust your sources. And if you're an old fart already, you should know better than to EVER trust the news. Google "gell-man amnesia."
I used to work at the hospital and still know quite a few people there. Our hospital was close to max capacity a lot BEFORE covid. I can tell you that our hospital is FULL.
Why you gotta be like that?
I can identify with what he is saying. Pāhoa bus stop has security, no vest. This place different. Don’t leave anything in the back of my truck and lock my doors and keep da cameras on. #clickclack
Pahoa and Hilo bus stations seem to draw the worst the Island has to offer. Some areas are very good to live in, others are full of cockroaches. A friend sometimes pull security duty at the Hilo bus station, work is much better at the chocolate factory! Choose wisely. Aloha
👁 ❤️ Puna
Sunny?
Yes for sure Puna is the wild wild west.
No place for civilized people. Bikers, Pakalolo growers, Meth labs, guns, trip wires and burned out autos to hide the evidence. We also have some great farmers, artists, astronomers and the native people have made Hilo the cultural center of Hawaiian revival. Some people dream, others have nightmares and most just live, day to day.
Well if its ok to come steal some clippings because we are gardeners, I will be right over. Seriously, I am here now and would like to meet you.
Yes, we are open to the public as long as the gate is open. Usually 9 to 4 is best.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Nice meeting you today Bill. Thankyou very much 😎🤙
@@teamcautiouslyextreme8072 Yes, thank you for shopping the nursery and watching the channel. Aloha
Shhhhh!!!!
Did you forget i & t?
At least I have no debt right now
Life without debt is wonderful. I live debt free and love it.
Nice to see a neighbor on the webs…
I've been hanging around here since 2008. Almost become a second home. Nice to hear from you.
Laughing at "Gardeners! They're all THIEVES!" :)
I'm surprised this is new information. Horticulture was built on snitching.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Agreed, I'm laughing because I'm guilty! Plumeria cuttings, agave pups, heliconias...
@@001jonpeterson I already knew that. You wouldn't be watching this channel unless you had enough interest in horticulture to snitch a bit!
Might want to edit your video...you just told the cockroaches you get money on a regular basis for plants and fruit at your home..some people will kill you for 10 bucks in your pocket..
Wow, glad I'm not you. I don't see the threats you live under. Selling plants is hard work with little profit and not exactly the sort of thing that criminals look for. Better off they rob 7-11. They actually have some cash in the till
Mainlanders moving in trying to make em less wild. Not good. Puna should stay wild.
How do you plan to stop it?
@@GreenGardenGuy1 by dying first. You can't stop the tide of humanity, all you can do is lament it's wave of ruin. They're going to keep chopping down the forests to make more human hives, and they'll swarm down the streets in their cars, to go to the jobs they hate, while the beauty gets destroyed. And yes, I realize the irony of being human while saying this.
@@newvocabulary You have demonstrated why I live the way I live, and do what I do. Our world view is flawed and requires an adjustment. We are already paying the price. I do not find complaining about the situation to be fruitful. It doesn't position the mind for positive and creative solutions to problems. Everyone has a small part to play.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Very well said Bill! We all have a part to play in fixing the mess humanity created. And we've all had a small part in creating it. You're my hero because you're doing something about it in your way. And you're teaching us all how to live in harmony with the planet and each other. And you're a great example of how to live in positivity. Thanks for your service!
@@johnatyoutube Mahalo. I made a commitment to myself as a young man to try and help people leave the world in better shape than we found it. I have been on plenty of soap boxes before I resorted to youtube. The internet made this mission a bit easier. We all have a part to play in this if you feel it matters.
Slab City with palm trees.
I'm not sure how to take that comment. I live here. I was very careful about choosing the location. I love it, best place I've lived out of 20 or so US locations.
That's the problem . Mainlanders moving to Hawaii
If the worlds problems were as simple as people moving around the planet then you could be the next president. It isn't that simple.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it's not a world's problem it's a Hawaii problem. It's particularly my world problem because it affects local like me and you just live in it
@@ravvent6787You would do well to get help for this. What you express is a personal. problem. It is your issue, not mine. You are telling me you are unhappy but there is nothing I can do for you. Don't waste your time here. Look for someone who can heal your pain. Aloha
@GreenGardenGuy1 it's not your fault it's your blood that carries on with colonialism.....it affects all us locals/natives, I don't expect you to understand. You are not welcomed. Aloha goodbye go back home to the mainland
I prefer the wild west.
Me too! It’s great if you want to have a blacksmith power hammer in your shop😝
The horses are all lucky we eat pigs.
The wild aspect is one of the reasons I live here.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 It's why I got a place there as well
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Haha. I'm considering getting a horse. Road them as a kid and I enjoyed it more than driving a car.
For me, I hate pahoa, and nanawale...bad dramas all over there!!!
I avoid ever working my mind up enough to hate anything. That sort of conviction takes belief and I have none. The only reason I ever travel to Pahoa is for Luquin's Mexican and Gray-C's Vet. Otherwise it is overrated in my opinion. Nanawale is too tight. The lots are too small, everybody has their nose in everyone else's business. Areas where lots are 1 to 1600 acres are more pleasant.
Definitely stay away from pahoa!
Leilani ok but HOA sucks wish I’d bought leilani 2
HOA was one of the things on my parameter list when I shopped for property. It had to be free of tyranny by a Home Owners Ass.
Fun video.. kind of a mix of grandpa Walton and a violent railroad engineer
Cars I can drive, trains, nope. I'd make more of a mess than they have in Ohio.
Everyone should be able to just open carry firearms. I will tell you that we visited Oklahoma and it is just a friendly, safe feeling type of place! We didn’t see a single cop either. So is Mountainview...there is only one way out of some subdivisions if you are thinking of doing some crime..although the gun laws are screwed up in Hawaii(in my humble opinion)..although we heard a shotgun in the middle of the night..probably a farmer harvesting a pig...just went back to sleep...now in Pittsburgh, we hear gunshots too....after yelling...different situations..ps..yes we have COVID shots
I find Hawaiian laws to be reasonable and intelligent. I a marksman with both long rifle and hand guns. I have owned and used guns most of my life. I believe people who need to walk around in the streets with guns to be seriously mentally ill. Maybe if I lived in East St. Louis or some other extremely dangerous place I would feel different but I have lived in some pretty dangerous places and never saw the need to walk around with my pistol hanging out of my pants. The fact that I am still alive at 70 and have no bullet holes in me proves the fact that open carry is a foolish and stupid thing based on deep seated fears and insecurities not any real need. It's about men who never grew up and are scared of their shadows. If there ever was a need to carry a gun around it would be to protect myself from idiots that think they need to walk around with a gun.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Agreed! I have been in 2 dangerous situations in the span of a month. Both involved people having a breakdown firing guns! One day I looked out my window after waking up to find a man walking around with a shotgun shooting at people. Another time involved my wife and I at Sunday brunch in a corner table when a goof ball walked in waving a .45 at us. It changed my viewpoint.
@@thomasreto2997 was this in Puna?