-272*C in space...how did the roll of film did not crack when was roled to the next frame...it is thi plastic. Spoked with Hasselblad about his and when I asked they didin't responde me anymore. BS. I recomand this video Of Stanley Kubrick: we.tl/t-pM2H7adeIT
@@adrianzaharia8885 space is rarely -272°c on the moon, since it's in full sunlight on the photos, it would oscillate between 125°c and -175°c, also keep in mind that it's total vacuum out there, so temperature exchanges work differently than in a usual atmosphere, therefore the cold wouldn't be such an issue, the biggest issue here would probably be drastic temperature shifts, but the rolls of film were protected by the camera body so that didn't wreck them
@@MacinteuchPlus Thermodynamics dude...you are talking really STUPID SHIT!!! No offense. Put o roll of film in your freezer over night, take it out and then try to roll it. It will crack...already did that but try it. And you should be ashame of what you just wrote as an answer. Just learn before you speek. The camera body protect it by the space cold? Are you serious dude?????? C'mon...even a 5 year old knows that that can't protect anything by the cold. BTW your freezer runs at about -20*C...-30*C the industrial ones. That's a fact. And just for your knowledge and pls take it as an advice from a guy that has learn phisics and optics for most of his life...inform yourself and get proof about what you speek/preach/teach, etc....otherwise you will put some stupid shit in the minds of lots and lots of people on this platform and not only. Sorry for my english...it is not my native language.
@@adrianzaharia8885 Dude, vacuum has conditions different to a pressured atmosphere, heat doesn't leave an object quickly because it has nothing to transfer itself to, the thing that has the most effect on temperature up there is whether or not it's in the sunlight, protect it from the sunlight and you will protect it from big temperature changes. Now go get educated and don't insult me anymore, you pathetic excuse of a human being.
My old man buzzed on this episode. He was a contract aerospace engineer for NASA during the Apollo missions. He thought it was cool that Hasselblads were still up there. He got me my first film camera. "Hasselblads? I haven't heard that name in awhile," he said.
Found this after rediscovering my ancient Hasselblad 500C - apparently, the last one of these was made in 1957, so, if nothing else, I have in my possession a fully functioning mechanical artifact from over 60 years ago. It is not the model that went to the Moon - as you mention - but it does have a space connection after all: Walter Schirra took it up with him on his Mercury flight in 1962. Thanks for sharing your research with us!
@@imanevilpotatoe7546 Oops! Re-reading my comment, I realise that I may have given the impression that my actual camera went up in a Mercury; while it may have been the one, I would suggest this is extremely unlikely. I was just trying to say that my model of camera - the 500C - was said to be the one to go up that time. Hope this makes things a bit clearer!
Love what you're doing man! This shit is hilarious!! Just a quick thing that 120 film isn't 120mm, it's actually 61mm. 120 was just kodak's number to name the film type. Hence 70mm film is actually larger than 120 film But please keep doing what you're doing, I bloody love it!!
the films used were estar based, this base on which the emulsion was poured was strong enough to withstand the temperature differences and would therefore not break in the camera while being transported to the next frame. I used this type of film in the 1980's and it was commercially available as Kodak Technical Pan Film. This was a very slow dokument film in 135 casettes for Leica and the alike cameras. but with the correct developer and exposure you could get an extremely fine grain normal contrast negative out of it. You could not tear it it had to be cut.
Watched this video last night and loved it. Woke up this morning with a start - "Wait, 70mm isn't smaller than 120 film!" Logged onto RUclips and saw that another film nerd had already got that covered in the comments. I drifted back off to sleep, content.
My whole career basically has been working in science and mission operations for space cameras, mostly on/orbiting Mars. Since I was also a photographer outside of that, thanks to the Moon connection, I always wanted a Hasselblad. After my first holiday bonus at my first space camera job, I went to the local shop and amazingly there was a mint condition 500c with every accessory you could possibly imagine on consignment from its original owner. He was a photojournalist back in the day. It felt like fate so I immediately bought it and it’s been a prized possession for many years now. ❤ Love the amount of detail you went into in this video, down to the film types!
My grandfather actually worked on the space-division of Hasselblad. He is passed away so I can’t ask about the lubricant-issue but I asked my dad if he ever mentioned it and the best guess was that they just went without oil in the cameras since it was for a limited time it would probably do without. Great video as always!
@@narajuna With photos and samples being the listed primary purpose of the missions it astonishing how much time they wasted taking photos. I'll bet if we checked we'd find they also slacked off and collected rock and dirt. Like we don't have enough rock and dirt here on Earth!
Not sure what he's using specifically, but i'm sure you can create a similar effect by keyframing the zoom and tilt of the photo behind the square mask.
Hi Jason, your research paid off as this is a very interesting video. You did a great job with your dry sense of humor! Makes me want to break out my Olympus XA2 camera again! Keep up the great work. Anthony.
Day 4 night 5: I’m still thinking of those hasselblad cameras it hurts... I’m hoping to to hop on that trip to Mars and stop halfway to pick one up but who knows 🤷🏼♂️
I got the answers ! :D I believe he used a plugin called VoluMax.I use it a lot while editing.. It cost like 60$ but if you can't afford it i can kinda sorta send you the whole project... Here is the link for the plugin : ruclips.net/video/72dkwwKxKmw/видео.html videohive.net/item/volumax-3d-photo-animator/13646883
About using conventional lubricants in the camera, (i think) they use parts made out of gold/gold alloys, because apparently gold is pretty smooth too. And price tags are not an issue for them. Learnt this recently in collage.
@@grainydaysss thanks so much for this video :D even though i have seen so many pictures of apollo and moon etc, it never occurred to me how they actually would have done it. in retrospect DUH hasselblad :D . this is such a cool video. i want to thank youtube algorithm for spitting out this beautiful beautiful video.
@shillslayer Yeah that was explained. They used zone focusing. I don't know what the zone of focus is on a 60mm Zeiss lens at f16 since I'm nowhere near rich enough to purchase one, but on my cheap Nikon lens its about 4 feet to infinity. Anything within that range will be of acceptable focus. But of course, you probably knew that. Because why else would a moon truther be blowing up the comment section of a photography video on RUclips...
great Video! but acn you pls tell us how you did the depth effect in the chapter photos? can you do this with an extra software or how did you do this?
Well the lubricants wouldn't *dissolve* in a vacuum. Some would freeze and some would evaporate. You're looking at zero air pressure and temperature ranges from roughly -300F to +400F. So a light oil would almost certainly evaporate, and a thick grease would probably freeze. It'd be a great reason to invent teflon, but I don't think they were there yet.
1:35 with the lubricants I can see them using dry lubricants such as graphite powder which can be used as a substitute for more traditional lubricants in specific use cases, and seeing as these cameras only needed to work for a few weeks not for years on end it would be fine to use something like that. Just to clarify I am not saying that's was definitely what they used but it would make sense in an environment like the moon's surface.
And there are issues with metal expansion and contraction with the extreme temperatures in the environment in which they were being used. Highly polished bushings would get tight or lose on the shafts. Different materials expand and contract at different rates. Early clocks/watches by John Harrison used materials that expand and contract opposite directions (during fluctuations in temp & humidity) to keep key components in proper adjustment. I wondered too about how they figured these out for space and vacuum. Yes they had data from testing every other material and part connections in orbital space and vacuum testing on the ground. Plus some damn smart and intuitive engineers giving their best to figure it out. The science and physics of engineering is fascinating!
I researched the answer myself. Apparently lower speed film transparency film does not irradiate as much as negative. They also in development took into account the radiation effects for minor radiation effect. Reminder there are many photos of Chernobyl on film and that was FAR worse radiation.
shillslyaer is full of himself. the magazines of the Lunar Hasselblads had lead foil inside them, according to NASA and Hasselblad, but you can't take sharp photographs without a viewfinder...
@@Walkercolt1 Except for the part about how in the 21st century Nasa will tell you they don't know how to get through the Van Allen belt, lol. It was the 'Cold War,' and any means to beat the Soviets was going to be used....including fakery. ruclips.net/video/IDBBUwdyz4I/видео.html You can also watch videos of these clowns claiming they 'destroyed the telemetry data.' Sorry, the world is not as we've been taught in public school.
There's something I'm curious about. As you can see in the picture, the hasselblad distributed to nasa looks like it doesn't have a mirror box, but I wonder how it was taken
4:50 If you want one of the film backs the Apollo 12 astronauts forgot one of them on the lunar surface. Although the images that they took on it have been fogged away by half a century of space radiation.
Awesome video, as always!!, quick question: how did you do pulloff that parallax animation on the photos?? it looks fantastic!!!, is there a tutorial I could follow??
Imagine having to be the one to develop the film. Thats more pressure than the astronauts.
You're not kidding!
-272*C in space...how did the roll of film did not crack when was roled to the next frame...it is thi plastic. Spoked with Hasselblad about his and when I asked they didin't responde me anymore. BS. I recomand this video Of Stanley Kubrick: we.tl/t-pM2H7adeIT
@@adrianzaharia8885 space is rarely -272°c on the moon, since it's in full sunlight on the photos, it would oscillate between 125°c and -175°c, also keep in mind that it's total vacuum out there, so temperature exchanges work differently than in a usual atmosphere, therefore the cold wouldn't be such an issue, the biggest issue here would probably be drastic temperature shifts, but the rolls of film were protected by the camera body so that didn't wreck them
@@MacinteuchPlus Thermodynamics dude...you are talking really STUPID SHIT!!! No offense. Put o roll of film in your freezer over night, take it out and then try to roll it. It will crack...already did that but try it. And you should be ashame of what you just wrote as an answer. Just learn before you speek. The camera body protect it by the space cold? Are you serious dude?????? C'mon...even a 5 year old knows that that can't protect anything by the cold. BTW your freezer runs at about -20*C...-30*C the industrial ones. That's a fact. And just for your knowledge and pls take it as an advice from a guy that has learn phisics and optics for most of his life...inform yourself and get proof about what you speek/preach/teach, etc....otherwise you will put some stupid shit in the minds of lots and lots of people on this platform and not only. Sorry for my english...it is not my native language.
@@adrianzaharia8885 Dude, vacuum has conditions different to a pressured atmosphere, heat doesn't leave an object quickly because it has nothing to transfer itself to, the thing that has the most effect on temperature up there is whether or not it's in the sunlight, protect it from the sunlight and you will protect it from big temperature changes. Now go get educated and don't insult me anymore, you pathetic excuse of a human being.
My old man buzzed on this episode. He was a contract aerospace engineer for NASA during the Apollo missions. He thought it was cool that Hasselblads were still up there. He got me my first film camera. "Hasselblads? I haven't heard that name in awhile," he said.
Found myself pondering what was used for those crispy moon bangers and stumbled onto this; great stuff!!
hahaha crispy moon bangers
"crispy moon bangers" sounds like a delicious snack
@@asystole_ Made of moon cheese if it had not been rocks and dust.
Hasselblad cameras, Omega watches and Corvettes
Damn I wish I were a 1960s astronaut
probably not the reason they became astronauts, but it's definitely a good bonus in case you weren't on board already.
Found this after rediscovering my ancient Hasselblad 500C - apparently, the last one of these was made in 1957, so, if nothing else, I have in my possession a fully functioning mechanical artifact from over 60 years ago. It is not the model that went to the Moon - as you mention - but it does have a space connection after all: Walter Schirra took it up with him on his Mercury flight in 1962.
Thanks for sharing your research with us!
Wow, you are one lucky man
@@imanevilpotatoe7546 Oops! Re-reading my comment, I realise that I may have given the impression that my actual camera went up in a Mercury; while it may have been the one, I would suggest this is extremely unlikely. I was just trying to say that my model of camera - the 500C - was said to be the one to go up that time. Hope this makes things a bit clearer!
@@spiderjuice9874 No worries, I was saying that just by the fact that you own one haha
@@imanevilpotatoe7546 They are a good camera, and affordable these days, if you can find one that is!
Sorry to ruin your mystique but the 500C *started* production in 1957, mine for example is from 1960. They made them up until the C/M in 1970.
Love what you're doing man! This shit is hilarious!!
Just a quick thing that 120 film isn't 120mm, it's actually 61mm. 120 was just kodak's number to name the film type. Hence 70mm film is actually larger than 120 film
But please keep doing what you're doing, I bloody love it!!
Yea you're totally right dude, I have since learned the errors of my ways and need to find a way to correct this video
I think 120cm would be correct as it refers to the length of the film (if I remember correctly). Hence 220 Film being a thing, it's just longer.
It's about 4 times bigger than 35mm.
@@luca_hc_gruber correct. 120 refers to the film length.
*Correction: 120 is 83-85cm long. Apologies for the hasty assumption.
@@Ava-wu4qp Nope, 120 film is about 85cm long. 120 refers to the numbering system used by Kodak.
the films used were estar based, this base on which the emulsion was poured was strong enough to withstand the temperature differences and would therefore not break in the camera while being transported to the next frame. I used this type of film in the 1980's and it was commercially available as Kodak Technical Pan Film. This was a very slow dokument film in 135 casettes for Leica and the alike cameras. but with the correct developer and exposure you could get an extremely fine grain normal contrast negative out of it. You could not tear it it had to be cut.
Wow such fascinating insight!
Hilarious and informative! Keep posting, dude!
Watched this video last night and loved it. Woke up this morning with a start - "Wait, 70mm isn't smaller than 120 film!" Logged onto RUclips and saw that another film nerd had already got that covered in the comments. I drifted back off to sleep, content.
That zooming effet tho. S*** tipsy af
WTF was going on? I shit wasn’t getting any closer but was totally getting closer.
My whole career basically has been working in science and mission operations for space cameras, mostly on/orbiting Mars. Since I was also a photographer outside of that, thanks to the Moon connection, I always wanted a Hasselblad. After my first holiday bonus at my first space camera job, I went to the local shop and amazingly there was a mint condition 500c with every accessory you could possibly imagine on consignment from its original owner. He was a photojournalist back in the day. It felt like fate so I immediately bought it and it’s been a prized possession for many years now. ❤ Love the amount of detail you went into in this video, down to the film types!
Lunachrome, anyone?
#wanderlust
#travelblogger
I’ve had these images on rotation as my screensaver for like 15 years now, they’re so fascinating to look at.
“those ice cold hasselblad bodies”
I'd love a history lesson in this teaching format you have going on lmao
Great vids man. Funny and informative. Keep it up!!
This is an AMAZING video, you deserve way more subscribers!
Yeah I like the guy who wrecked Robert capas D-day photos
Did not expect to find you guys here
My grandfather actually worked on the space-division of Hasselblad. He is passed away so I can’t ask about the lubricant-issue but I asked my dad if he ever mentioned it and the best guess was that they just went without oil in the cameras since it was for a limited time it would probably do without.
Great video as always!
They used graphite.
So limited time it was, but they took a hell of LOT photos, regular Japanese....
@@narajuna With photos and samples being the listed primary purpose of the missions it astonishing how much time they wasted taking photos. I'll bet if we checked we'd find they also slacked off and collected rock and dirt. Like we don't have enough rock and dirt here on Earth!
Jason, we need more videos like this, seriously.
What program is that to make those kinds of animations out of pictures? :) It is really cool.
Not sure what he's using specifically, but i'm sure you can create a similar effect by keyframing the zoom and tilt of the photo behind the square mask.
It would be amazing if he make a tutorial of how he does those animation, are completely awesome!
Hi Jason, your research paid off as this is a very interesting video. You did a great job with your dry sense of humor! Makes me want to break out my Olympus XA2 camera again! Keep up the great work. Anthony.
informative and hilarious. waiting for those hassels to be found!
Day 4 night 5: I’m still thinking of those hasselblad cameras it hurts... I’m hoping to to hop on that trip to Mars and stop halfway to pick one up but who knows 🤷🏼♂️
can anyone do a tutorial on how to make those amazing picture parallax animations please ?
Ratul Mondal just leaving a comment in case someone anwsers
I got the answers ! :D
I believe he used a plugin called VoluMax.I use it a lot while editing..
It cost like 60$ but if you can't afford it i can kinda sorta send you the whole project...
Here is the link for the plugin :
ruclips.net/video/72dkwwKxKmw/видео.html
videohive.net/item/volumax-3d-photo-animator/13646883
@@Entutu You're a legend I love you
@@gdeech np bro ! glad i can help!
Can I get in on that project?
Thanks really neat video of background to those historic shots 👍👾
About using conventional lubricants in the camera, (i think) they use parts made out of gold/gold alloys, because apparently gold is pretty smooth too. And price tags are not an issue for them. Learnt this recently in collage.
that's awesome!
@@grainydaysss thanks so much for this video :D even though i have seen so many pictures of apollo and moon etc, it never occurred to me how they actually would have done it. in retrospect DUH hasselblad :D . this is such a cool video. i want to thank youtube algorithm for spitting out this beautiful beautiful video.
Archit Dharod so Gucci !
@shillslayer How did the astronauts survive then?
@shillslayer Yeah that was explained. They used zone focusing. I don't know what the zone of focus is on a 60mm Zeiss lens at f16 since I'm nowhere near rich enough to purchase one, but on my cheap Nikon lens its about 4 feet to infinity. Anything within that range will be of acceptable focus. But of course, you probably knew that. Because why else would a moon truther be blowing up the comment section of a photography video on RUclips...
Great video.
What Microphone are you using?
Working my way back on your videos, and this is one of my favorites. Nice work putting it all together!
Super cool stuff!! Thanks for the vid! Keep on keepin on 👍
Kodak should do the “Moonchrome” thing in 2024 when NASA and Space X go back!
You're an awesome creator!! I love the dosage of humor injected into the rather informative nature of the video
Thanks for the support dawg! :)
Dope typeface (font) use bro! Dope video
Glad they put a coldshoe on it
Just got a Canon AE-1 so excited. Great Video Love your shit
Wow, just found this after binging your other videos. So good!
Thanks, well put together enjoyed it
"OMG Tag Me" that was funny ahhaa
man, I just love your videos. this video is hilarious and informative at the same time. thank you
something about your videos is just nice and pleasing and nice
That was a very good Mini-doc on Space Stuff!
I really enjoyed your very informative--with just the right amount of humor--history lesson on the Hasselblad cameras that went to the moon. Thanks!
They should have used Olympus Trip 35’s
haha
Me: thinking about the gloves on those spacesuits...
great Video! but acn you pls tell us how you did the depth effect in the chapter photos? can you do this with an extra software or how did you do this?
Hell yeah I find this interesting, space (especially Apollo era) and photography is my jam!
HOW do you do that 3D photo effect? Especially at 2:04 ??
Super sick video. 10/10 straight up linked this to everyone I know.
That was damn good. And those animations made out of pictures were really cool.
Id love to see more stuff like this... Whatever you are interested in, there is a Good chance others are too.
Honestly, this is so fascinating.
5:40 Kodak Apollochrome... I'd buy it
Damn I found this channel too late what was I doing in my life
Chugging a flaming hot mountain dew every day until Kodak releases Lunachrome
...Bastard! Now I will also dream of those cameras... Loved every second of this video!
Super cool video, just what I needed ✨
Proper cool, great info! Thanks dude!
It turns out one of the lunar cameras was brought back with Apollo 14. It's in the camera exhibit at the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson, Kansas.
return trip to the moon will probably be more affordable than that Hasselblad
What a dope video man!
This was crazy interesting. Thanks for making it.
I've been following you for some time now. Great work dude.
Well the lubricants wouldn't *dissolve* in a vacuum. Some would freeze and some would evaporate. You're looking at zero air pressure and temperature ranges from roughly -300F to +400F. So a light oil would almost certainly evaporate, and a thick grease would probably freeze. It'd be a great reason to invent teflon, but I don't think they were there yet.
Where did you get the lunar surface photos?
1:35 with the lubricants I can see them using dry lubricants such as graphite powder which can be used as a substitute for more traditional lubricants in specific use cases, and seeing as these cameras only needed to work for a few weeks not for years on end it would be fine to use something like that. Just to clarify I am not saying that's was definitely what they used but it would make sense in an environment like the moon's surface.
And there are issues with metal expansion and contraction with the extreme temperatures in the environment in which they were being used. Highly polished bushings would get tight or lose on the shafts. Different materials expand and contract at different rates. Early clocks/watches by John Harrison used materials that expand and contract opposite directions (during fluctuations in temp & humidity) to keep key components in proper adjustment. I wondered too about how they figured these out for space and vacuum. Yes they had data from testing every other material and part connections in orbital space and vacuum testing on the ground. Plus some damn smart and intuitive engineers giving their best to figure it out. The science and physics of engineering is fascinating!
Lunachrome would be a dope name
120 film its not 120mm, its just a codename for medium format 5:15
dupont krytox, in various viscosities, is likely what was used in these cameras
Hey man how did you do the parallax animation on the photos, Ive been trying for weeks and they look like trash! I would appreciate the help! Thanks
Hey any idea how they prevented the film from being irradiated during flight an usage?
I researched the answer myself. Apparently lower speed film transparency film does not irradiate as much as negative. They also in development took into account the radiation effects for minor radiation effect. Reminder there are many photos of Chernobyl on film and that was FAR worse radiation.
shillslyaer is full of himself. the magazines of the Lunar Hasselblads had lead foil inside them, according to NASA and Hasselblad, but you can't take sharp photographs without a viewfinder...
@@Walkercolt1 Except for the part about how in the 21st century Nasa will tell you they don't know how to get through the Van Allen belt, lol. It was the 'Cold War,' and any means to beat the Soviets was going to be used....including fakery.
ruclips.net/video/IDBBUwdyz4I/видео.html
You can also watch videos of these clowns claiming they 'destroyed the telemetry data.' Sorry, the world is not as we've been taught in public school.
@@klaushuxley3342 tinfoil hat
Great video! Did you film yourself with the Helios 44 lens?
Dude, i absolutely love your videos!
I’ll be lying awake at night thinking about those ice cold Blads on the moon... 😢
Very cool - Thanks for sharing!
How were the cameras pressurized?
I wonder if they used some kind of dry lubricant like teflon (TM) or graphite or something? Great research and video, thanks :-)
Great vid! Informative and entertaining. Give me more
Thanks a lot for making an effort to make this video.. i love it
That was great. Good work!
Wow this video was exact that stuff of video that I want to watch!
That parallax effect anyone? Damn.
Super cool history lesson!
I would buy Moonchrome and Moontomic-X.
Its insane that theres cameras still up there...
littering is a crime down here... time for a policy change before we mess up the moon too
Okay, so I assume before watching the video, your video budget shot all the way to the moon.
Oh shit, tag me 😂
Loved this.
I wanna snag one of them moon hassies so bad.
And they’re going back up soon!
China wants to get there first, maybe to grab the cameras to sell and finance their world domination plans...
Now I have several reasons to go to the moon! Play me some Sinatra
that dutch angle punchline got me laughing my a** off man! Thank you for posting this.
Haven’t goggled it yet...this is a gay sex thing... nsfw?
Thanks for the existential crisis. Appreciate it
There's something I'm curious about. As you can see in the picture, the hasselblad distributed to nasa looks like it doesn't have a mirror box, but I wonder how it was taken
The fuckin pepperjack slapped on the salami as a stand in for the filter killed me 💀💀
About lubricant free mechanisms : tungsten disulphide.
I've thought about those cameras on the moon waaaaay too much.
One day, if we go back to the old landing sites, someone ought to bring one of these cameras back and see how they do after decades in a vacuum.
Curious how you got the push pull effect going on in the photos? Would love the insight if you don't mind sharing it.
4:50 If you want one of the film backs the Apollo 12 astronauts forgot one of them on the lunar surface.
Although the images that they took on it have been fogged away by half a century of space radiation.
This is amazing. Thank you
Notice that after discovering the moon wasn't made of cheese, we haven't bothered to go back.
Awesome video, as always!!, quick question: how did you do pulloff that parallax animation on the photos?? it looks fantastic!!!, is there a tutorial I could follow??
It was done with a program called "Volumax". Heres a link: videohive.net/item/volumax-3d-photo-animator/13646883