Oh man today’s a hot one!!! What do we think about the cat fishing scene at the end? 😉 *please avoid commenting personal attacks on the people in this video!*
@12345grov they are free to an extent. Depending on your rank depends if you have to pay for your own airfare or not. But the hotel stay is guaranteed free.
I realize this is an older video, I just watched it and it has just blown my mind. How do these people get away with this kind of criminal behavior? I have followed the Shannan Watts murder case and Level is a huge part of it, so I couldn’t wait to see this. I watched every video of Shannan pushing the Thrive line. I remember her saying, “don’t listen to ANY negativity about what you’re doing, just ignore these people”, which i couldn’t understand and thought was bizarre. She also said her “goal in life was to help people” which I thought was even more bizarre. She already had a husband and two children to “help”. The constant filming of her poor kids. The non stop talking on the phone and the videos. She called people who disapproved “haters”. This video you made is absolutely mind blowing. Poor Shannan fell for this lie, hook, line and sinker. Even bankruptcies and 3 months behind on the mortgage couldn’t get thru to her that her life had become totally unmanageable and she was addicted to the lie. She and her poor kids did not deserve what they got, but I can see how her husband just finally flipped. My God, these things are evil. Thank you for all your hard work, it’s excellent. And very, very sad.
Chris Watts KEPT those patches on at all times. He described it as making you feel like you worked out all day.... seriously can’t think of this company without thinking about that horrible case
Same first thing I thought of. Theres vids of shanann talking about how great of a life she has because of le vel before she passed. It's really eerie to watch knowing what happened
I worried about that myself. I am super sensitive to energy stuff so I wondered if the patch would kick my butt and make me feel like i was gonna shoot through the roof. Rest in peace though to sweet Shanann and the children. They didn't deserve what happened. No one does.
MLM work 24/7 promoting a shitty product, faking a perfect lifestyle on social media, once you rip through your friends and family, you are left with a garage full of shitty product. A negative balance bank account likely bankrupt. Basically look up Shanann Watts see how that all worked out. 🥺
Fun fact: I had a job interview with LeVel a couple years ago in corporate. Then I found out it was an mlm and noped out. Then I found out it was the mlm Shanann Watts was in and I was kinda freaked out
You’d think if their ‘business opportunity’ was so amazing and great they wouldn’t have to have corporate. They could pay their actual employees the same way they pay the huns. But of course not. All while shitting on corporate jobs they’ve got their own branch.
I promoted Le-Vel Thrive for 3 years. Everything you say in this video is mostly true. Btw.. yes, there is a TON of caffeine in these products. That's why if you stop, you feel like shit from the caffeine withdrawal. Making you think the product did if fact work wonders. But, you were just going through caffeine withdrawals. Plus, if you have a shellfish allergy, you should not take the capsules. They have seaweed in them. No promoters worn you of this. The DFT patches have a natural vitamin in them that is a natural aspirin. This is why they clam the patches help with aches and pains. But, again, if you have a medical problem and can not be on blood thinners, this can cause a problem. Like anything, this product is not for everyone. But, the untrained promoters, like myself in the past, will not tell you. And, yes, your "sisters" will disappear when you are no longer making them money. AND...the fact that they make you lease the "free" luxury car is BS! You never own it!
Wow the medical side of this one is so dangerous. 😬 I have a kidney bleeding disorder, and I bet this stuff would basically kill me. Yikes. Wonder how many anxiety disorders they're responsible for? I say this because i overdosed on caffeine once as a teenager, which triggered a severe, severe panic disorder which then grew into agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder. I took a fifteen year break from caffeine to let my body and mind heal, and now I actually use moderate amounts of caffeine to help me sleep (I have ADD so I'm backwards), but I'll always have an anxiety disorder and will always have to be careful about it. Their products would be awful for me but I bet it wouldn't stop them from trying to push them on me!
I always wondered about the products because I could use the energy but I have a MAJOR Asprin allergy that I have to carry an Epipen for. If I would of put on that patch I would of been put in the hospital.. wow! Thank you for that information!
I loved it! It gave me so much energy and i never felt healthier! But yes you do almost "withdrawal" from it! But honest to Every thing i loved it.. Never sold for it but i did use it for months! It was exspensive though so i had to stop
yep. Someone sent me samples of the capsules. I have a very very very deadly allergy to seafood. Was very glad I read the label carefully, as I've been burned in the past...
I never heard of Thrive or MLM's until the Watts murders. You're providing important info to keep many safe. Thanks so much for putting the word out. I like 'The Recovering Humbot' too.
Stay safe ,stay away from MLM it’s a scam and corrupt, and could cause health problems or worse for people, main thing just stay away from this and stay healthy and happy, this MLM is a horrible way to go ,
One of my friends moms had a stroke from taking level. The rep had signed her mom up for auto ship without telling her and wouldn’t let her cancel. My friend had to cancel her moms credit card and threaten the rep with elder abuse.
Le-vel is horrible for people, it should be illegal to sell that junk, it’s very bad for some people health, and it’s possible that it could cause death, it just a scam ,it’s nothing but a different kind of cult, fake and fraudulent
MLM should a crime, it’s not healthy it’s cause people health problems and possibly death , I wonder how many people have died from using thrive , everyone please stay away from thrive and stay healthy , good luck and always stay safe from this stuff ,
I was told by a promoter I could take this while pregnant, I showed my doctor who is also my best friends dad and he told me if I took it, I could cause serious harm to my baby and whoever told me that is an idiot. Its so scary these people are out there pushing this.
Oooo no she should of never told u that girl .., she was supposed to tell u “TO PLZZZ CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR FIRST” SMFH I hate wen ppl are told anything so that person can make a dam sale ... yes I’m a promoter but if any mama that’s expecting a baby I will either not messg them or tell them I wouldn’t but if your going to do it plz take the ingredients to your OBGYN AND FAMILY DOC & PLZ ASK THEM FIRST “ but then I still won’t I just don’t feel right selling this to a pregnant mother 🤦🏻♀️😢
Oh dear. Thank goodness you did not listen to whomever told told it was ok . Obviously they are just trying to make a sale and do not care for any bodies health and or wellbeing .
You are so beautiful!! Also, out of the many anti-mlm youtubers I’ve watched, you present facts without bias. Obviously you dislike mlms, but you don’t call them out to be petty but because you’re here to educate! I love these videos because they’re informative and I’m hoping people see them and steer clear or even leave their mlm.
Girl, your catfishing game is SPOT ON! BTW, it had never occurred to me that the car bonus was taxable income, even though it's completely logical since the huns are independent contractors. Still, it had never occurred to me and I don't remember ever having heard it in the hundreds of anti-MLM videos I have watched. It's great you've pointed it out!
A car allowance is taxable income when you work at any corporation. I have about 15 years of experience in payroll. The trips would be taxable income as well, unless it's a business trip. Gifts are what the IRS calls fringe benefits, which are taxable as income.
You’re amazing thank you for all this info , I had a friend obsessed with signing me up to Mary Kay years ago . She called me 7 times a day and even showed up to my home and place of work .... frightening
@Isabella Lanter thank you so much for this video!! I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I almost fell for this and signed up as a promoter. I believe it was fate, I got on youtube to find a video Le-vel put out and found this one instead. So THANK YOU!
I think the double patches that Chris Watts wore altered his personality and caused him to become aggressive! I really wish someone would look into this and hold them accountable!
It's the capsules that really have a speedy effect. He was probably eating them like candy and wearing 2 patches on top of that couldn't have been very good either. One older man did that and lost 147 lbs! That couldn't have been too healthy for a man at his age, over 80yrs old. They say that it's good for everyone which is not being very responsible. 😮
I'm so glad I watched this I was literally ready to pull out my credit card cuz this girl from high school that I thought was so pretty and popular 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️(yes I'm embarrassed to say that) but everything she was saying sounds like my life and now she's supposedly doing so well emotionally physically and financially but really I would just be making her more money not myself and she's really big into social media so she's got a following more people to entice, I don't have lots of followers cuz I'm not big into social media so I just don't think I'd be a good candidate, so glad I watched this🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I ran across a level rep telling a thyroid patient that she can take her thyroid meds with that capsule you have to take in the morning. I take the same med, you can't take it within 4 hours of any supplements as supplements effects the way the meds are absorbed. I tried to tell the the woman with thyroid disease, the rep said I had no idea what I was talking about as thrive causes no drug interactions. I just begged the woman to speak to her pharmacists first.
@@michellelanter628 It really is super dangerous, a sudden deline in thyroid function because your meds are not absorbing properly depending on the person can have catastrophic consequences.
I have hypothyroidism & yeah you can’t take ANY vitamins until 4 hours after the pill & in Le Vel you’re supposed to take those vitamin pills they sell on an empty stomach first thing in the morning so basically for anyone like us with thyroid issues it’s a NO GO. I have to take my prenatal vitamins at night because of my thyroid medicine
@@samiokrasinski7724 Ikr? My meds say right on the bottle that it's a no no. On thrive you have to do the capsule first thing, and then the mix in the morning too which is also packed with vitamins and minerals. I just can't believe she tried to tell me that thrive doesn't cause drug interactions...like whaaaa?!
You do a great job breaking down this predatory company (an oxymoron when discussing MLMs) but one of the more maddening aspects of this is the notion that the Lifestyle Getaways are in any sense, a vacation. They are not. Not only does one have to secure the trip via hammering away at others to buy the product and/or buy basement filling levels of the product themselves, but when most people are fortunate enough to take a vacation, the entire point and purpose is to getaway from work. With MLMs, it's the opposite. Their goal is to fly you off to a temporary echo chamber so that you can be pressured and "motivated," to do even more. The trips are NOT for the promoters. They are for those at the top. It allows them to gather together the fully indoctrinated so that the clamp can be tightened even more. Nice rooms, a band, good food, etc ....that is bait. The hook? Well, the hook is hidden in the details. You have done a great job of outlining those details. Please keep up the great work. It's both necessary and vitally important.
Honestly?! Thank you so much for doing these deep dives, I didn’t even know this was a MLM and I never even heard about them before. You seriously are such an amazing creator and thank you for educating us! Love you! 💛
My friend is a Thrive rep and she got me to do it… for reference I’m a recovering c*c*ine addict, used for like a solid 10 years… when I used this product, I swear I felt like as though I had just did a gr*m of bl*w to myself and had to stop using the product IMMEDIATELY the stuff that’s in these products aren’t normal and shouldn’t be consumed!!!
Soooo after thought… the girl that I know that’s a Thrive rep is also a fellow recovering addict and she had 6 years clean when we had reconnected… needless to say, just recently, she happened to have suffered from some really terrible abdominal pains (keep in mind I believe she has been “Thriving” for about a year/year and a bit maybe more I’m not 100% tbh but I know it’s been over a year) and was prescribed a narcotic for the pain and unfortunately relapsed. She’s been having a hell of a time with the drs trying to figure out what the issue is. Thankfully, she was only using for around 6 months and has found her way back to the rooms but I would NOT be surprised if the issues she’s having are related to her using this product… just my thoughts
My friend keeps telling me how great this stuff is says its pharmaceutical strength and just like adderall..i said no thanks that would give me anxiety. Smh
I had a friend who wanted me to join this company & to start paying £50 every month so I can go for a lifetime opportunity!...she was so obsessed into getting me to join that I totally fricked out & blocked her!!
Don't come for me, y'all....but I LOVED Thrive. I lost weight, had energy, and felt great. I was so disappointed when I found out it was an MLM. In fact, it's probably the only MLM from which I'd ever consider buying. Then again-- my man just reminded me of something. He says the entire time I was using Thrive I was also smoking meth. I'm not trying to be silly [I'm a recovering addict from lots of different substances], so that very well may have had something to do with it! 😂
Hey girl no hate here! I totally respect it if people love the products! It was just the way MLMs are set up that I don’t like! I’m glad they worked for you girl!! No shame here for loving the products! And girl I’m so proud of you for that!
Lol, of course, it was the meth that made you have energy and lose weight. Caffeine, of which there are tons in it, also boost metabolism. It's only a placebo. The weight loss thing obviously didn't work for Shanann Watts' girlfriend, the one who called the cops...
In the Netflix documentary it shows the watts family at the beach and Shannan's husband and dad were playing with the kids in the water and where was Shannon? Surprise, surprise on the phone (probably sending out invites). Its sad that this company made her feel like she couldn't even take the time to play with her kids at the beach.
Damn, this woman knows this scam upside down and all around! If you have a nasty MLM scam haunting and running around your house, “who ya gonna call?” “Isabella!” 😂😂😂 “ She ain’t afraid of no scam!” Plus, she’s absolutely beautiful to look at and listen to! 👀
“Idk what you mean by recruiting” 🤣🙄 PA LEASE! 🤣 great job great video! So glad the word is spreading more and more. Must stop all the lies and manipulation! ❤️
The editing and information in this video are soooo well done! Love it! Your makeup in the video is so pretty too. I know someone from my work who recently joined level and I’m secretly hoping she doesn’t try and message me about it 🤦🏼♀️
Thrive makes me think of the Watts case and then I’m like nah, I’m good. 😂 when someone tried to get me to buy this I said I had an adhesive allergy and told me it’s different than normal tape so it won’t effect me. I’m like all adhesives give me a reaction- not just tape. 🙄
This is really bad but in a alternate universe where I was in an MLM and I didn't have enough qualifications to go on the trip I would just pay for the trip by myself and sneak into it and just lie to everyone and it's still would have been cheaper
Something else to think about the “free” car is car insurance costs! You’ll have to update your car insurance plan, and that cost is most likely going to go up for a luxury car.
There's more. It is a lease in the sales person's name. If the seller's earnings drop below the "car level" for a month, the SELLER has to pay the lease amount. That is the pressure Shan'nan was under.
I'm so glad you started by bringing up how Level silences people. In the Chris Watts murder case, he was never brought to trial, just sent directly to prison. There are real conspiracy theories about this. He worked for an oil company that was being traded that year and Shan'ann worked for Level/Thrive, both of these companies pulled strings to make sure the case received as little media attention as possible. Chris Watts was given life in prison instead of Death Row as a special favor if he just admitted he killed everyone, instead of what he'd been saying, which was that he only killed Shan'ann. Those are the kinds of strings pulled to make sure there was no trial. I do feel like this MLM and Anadarko, the oil company CW worked for, were behind the scenes making this case, THIS CASE, which would have been huge for so long in the media in 2018, fly under the radar by not having it go to trial. And this case needed a trial to bring everything out into the open. For one, knowing how much Shan'ann actually made at Level/Thrive would have been helpful because it was a huge stressor in the relationship. ALSO, the sole reason Shan'ann was discovered to be missing so quickly, if you remember her friend Nicole showed up to the house early in the morning after having dropped her off at 2 in the morning. Nicole knocked and knew something was immediately wrong, because they were going to go get the lease on her Level car that day. Most people would have knocked and left, understanding that a pregnant woman, who'd just been on a long flight late into the night would want to sleep in, but not these ladies. Not when she was going to get the Level lease that day. That's why she was so adamant to get into the house, and called the police right away.
It was better to offer a plea. It just takes 1 juror believing his bullshit story, to keep him out of prison, and with how slow it takes to get to the electric chair, it doesn't shorten his lifespan by that much.
Watts confessed, pleaded guilty, and got five life sentences; three to be served consecutively and two concurrently. Shanann's family agreed to his punishment. He got his time in court and the judicial system worked, as it does, in cases like this. Even without a lengthy court trial, this case was *heavily* covered domestically and even made international news. If anyone wanted less media focus on the case, they failed horribly. Between the incessant media coverage, book(s), televised in-jail interviews, Netflix, the release of the police interrogation (including his confession and speaking with his father) footage, RUclips, podcasts, and so on, this case was and is plastered everywhere. Anadarko, Thrive, and Le-vel were companies so often mentioned that they will always be directly associated to this case. That name recognition will last as long as the public's collective memory. Just because people want/desire more intimate details about the inner workings of Shanann and Watt's life doesn't mean that they are entitled to them. Most, if not all, horrific cases leave questions that will never be answered. Was there any external pressure on any part of this case, including less coverage or information? We may never know for sure. If there was, it didn't seem to work on quieting, or even dampening, the absolute furor that was this case. As a footnote - Even if Watts had be sentenced to death, Colorado abolished the death penalty in 2020 and all death penalty sentences were commuted. The large sum of money spent on a lengthy trial, that may not have resulted in a guilty verdict, would have been wasted.
There is a rumor that Shannan's parents were paid by Thrive to not seek the death penalty for CW, if the case had gone to trial it is very likely that Chris's defense would have said that the murders were caused by the economic disaster that Thrive had led to his family, they would also have said that Thrive products influenced CW at the time of committing these murders.
Watts pleaded guilty as he was fearful of the death penalty, even though he would not have gotten it anyway. By doing so, he also thinks that he can somehow fight on and be out again one day, which will never happen. Perhaps one day he will come to terms that he will be a lifer. Le-Vel or his employer would have had no power in getting him to plead guilty. Think about it, what kind of pressure or incentive could they have given him?
I wonder where Shannan would be in her life if Chris had been normal and just divorced her? Would she be in her MLM or would she have realized that her MLM was predatory? She was such a good person, I don't think that she would have stayed in her MLM. She would have done so much with her life.
Just thinking how SWatts sold this stuff to friends that we're lupus patients because she touted how amazing Thrive was and also the reason she no longer needed medicine for her lupus. 🤔 Just think about how many people were put at risk for this crazy stuff she truly believed in. God. Bless her! Her husband was a monster and the product she believed wholeheartedly in was a dangerous fraud.😔
Wrong. She was a lifelong scammer and abuser and knew it was a sham. Literally everything about her life was either fake or a lie including that ridiculous pronunciation of her name...its really just Shannon.
The case dynamic changed for me when I learned shann’ann was in an MLM. It changes you. It becomes your life. It puts you into debt. I think it affected chris watts personality. Couple with the fact he was dragged into it…I can see why he flipped out. These scams are pure evil.
New sub! Please slow down. This is a ton of info and it’s great that you’re passionate about it but hard to understand when there are no pauses. Also this makes me so sad for Shanann 😭😭 she believed in this company so much. RIP Shan, Bella, CeCe & Nico ✨💜🦋
Ok I commented about half way thru the video so maybe you were just real passionate at that point and talking fast 😅 it got better as the video went on. I will definitely be watching more of your content! I appreciate you going into all the details of these MLMs so much! I’ve been trying to find something that works for me for sooooo long but never really tried an MLM and now I won’t, I will stick with my doctor and amazon where if I want to try something I can and if I don’t like it I’m not stuck with it! Thank you! ☺️
Everything you are saying is 100% true! I used the products and even signed up to promote (I'm an idiot). I felt pretty good after starting to use the products. But I NEVER lost any weight on it. I was seeing all these pictures of people's wt loss, and I'm thinking "what am I doing wrong?" Not even to mention, the products are ungodly priced! Oh and, I never made a single penny either. I'm just thankful I didn't get hugely in debt! Thank you for exposing all of this! Oh and have you ever heard of a company named ViSalus? MIND CONTROL, BRAIN WASHING, AND BULLSHIT!
I sure don’t need that crap to loose weight , I’m 5 feet 2inches tall and weigh 98 lbs and I would never try any of those products, I don’t know what’s in them ,
I love that you give so much in dept information ^^ I would like to ask you to take a breath sometimes so that we have a pause during your talking instead of just a continuous stream of words. With this much information, it gets difficult to get it all if you talk so fast the whole time.
Yes 🙌🏼 I’m a new sub! Here for the info but she is talking wayyyyyy to fast. 💨 I love that she is passionate, but I’m afraid that half the message is going to be lost bc she is not even breathing when she talks lol. Idc if the video is 2 hours long, please slow down so we can absorb the info or at least comprehend it.
I can't believe people STILL tout that : "it's my own business " ish. NO! U r the CUSTOMER! U buy the shit from the company (to have a good inventory) in hopes of reselling it. The company could give a shit if u resell it, because they have already made their $ by selling it to YOU!!!
So glad you made this video 🙌🏼 I’ve been waiting to see one on Level after I had an experience with the company. Can’t wait to share this with others. Thank you!
For anyone saying she talks too fast, just click on the three dots (upper right of the screen) and you can slow it down. I happen to love the fast pace. Most other RUclipsrs I click the 3 dots and speed it up!
I have a friend who re-joined after being a promoter years ago. She doesn't really push it on me because we really are friends and have been since grade school. However, she posts how great she feels etc. and our other friend decided to try the product. She claims she got huge bursts of energy and cleaned things she's NEVER cleaned before. She decided to upgrade her patch to a stronger one and gave me a free 3 days worth sample. It done absolutely nothing to me. At all. My OG promoter friend said that for some people it just takes longer to feel the effects of the vitamins and that I should try it for a whole month before I pass my judgment. So my other friend decided to become a promoter too just to "thrive for free". I still haven't given in. And I love my morning coffee, not for energy, but I just love coffee. So the claim that "You can buy this for $6 a day. You guys that the price of your daily Starbucks or eating lunch out!" Ummm first of all, no. Not everyone buys Starbucks and lunch out daily, or even weekly. So no. This is now an additional cost for some. Second of all, who are you to tell someone they should give up something bc you don't agree with it? I agree with you. Disgusting tactics.
It is a cult, people who fall for MLMs have something missing in their lives and believe this fantastic opportunity will make it all better. Isn’t that the definition of a cult?
I’m going to school for health & fitness, been a personal trainer and I’m passionate about health so I have some background, but not a nutritionist. I looked into these products and I would NOT recommend these omg. The biggest issue is every single product has caffeine in their “proprietary blend” which means..... they literally don’t have to disclose HOW MUCH caffeine is in each product. Their patch also has “ForsLean” and “Cosmoperine” which are basically patented mystery blends of herbs that have not been scientifically proven to work 🤨 wack. Thanks for doing your research, I was really curious about this. A girl I know is in it and posts how great her life has become and I was very skeptical lol
Sorry to take you all to Watt’s island again but Shan’ann’s “car bonus” was a Lexus leased in Chris’s name. She had totes of products in her basement. She had her two year old, Bella, in her down line
I am so glad I saw this video!! I almost signed up yesterday and got distracted with something else. Thank you for helping me with my decision😊. I messaged a person that works for trive and there messages are pre made, as I send them a message and as soon as I click send, got this huuuuge message asking me to sign up for free and then to choose a product to start that costs 200.00 bucks and that's the cheapest.😳. On another note: what is yiur opinion on "IT WORKS"?
lol shut up! I'm sure you've been in a position where you've been manipulated or lied to about something then found out later. Don't pull this high and mighty act. Victim blaming is tacky and something we don't do here. Go to someone else's channel that's cool with that.
I know this is about Thrive but it’s really pisses me off that MLM Huns sign people up for auto ship without telling the customer. That IS stealing. An IT Works hun did this to me once and it took FOUR months to get the company to cancel the “subscription”, the rep ghosted me, and when I called the company they just directed me back to the rep. I had to threaten legal action to get the auto ship canceled. They refunded me for the fifth month because it hasn’t been shipped yet, but that was it. They basically STOLE $300 from me without my consent because each box was $99. That was the moment I became aggressively anti-MLM. It’s so wrong. I don’t know how they haven’t been sued for shit like that.
I can not f'ing believe the "bonus money" u get to pay for your "free car" is taxed as income! I didn't even know they could do that. I'm sure its a way for the company to save $. Also why isn't your channel 10x bigger? Your vids are excellent & well researched. Noone ever made those points before. Hope u hit the algorithm soon.
Yes you have to pay taxes on that as it is income but They don’t have to give you employee benefits like insurance, sick leave, labor protection laws like time on the clock. You work 24/7 for someone else without any employee protections IMo. Unions...anyone??
I was always mad because here in Canada it's cheaper to fly out of the country then to fly within. $800 to go to Ireland from Vancouver but $1200 to get to Toronto which btw was one of my layovers to go to Ireland
Mcfarlands blog is Lazy Man and Money and he pretty much dismantled Thrive on his blog so Level sued him. That blog post is the most honest review of Thrive and a deep dive into Level and even though it was written 5 years ago he still leaves it up. I'm so glad Level lost that lawsuit
Why am I just seeing this girls channel??? Omg she’s spot on and made me think! I love how she has her facts straight!!! Ty for this awesome channel!!!
What she is saying is true, I almost joined them and the women told me it was "free" but I had to buy 360 dollars in products, I didnt even do it, I mean, its ridiculous.
WOWWWW WHY WOULD U have to buy $360 dollars worth of product 😳 that’s def not how it goes ... there’s 3 options 100$ for 2 weeks worth so 14 packs of vitamins, one box of shake mix which has 15 in each or one canister & 14 DFT (derma fusion technology) then there’s the most popular pack and that’s the 4 week pack u get 30 packs of vitamins 2in each pack, 2 boxes or two canisters o lifestyle mix and 30 DFT’s for $150 & then there is the couples pack which is crazy $ it’s 300$ and u get 2 boxes of vitamins so 90 packs & 60 DFT’s & 4 boxes or 4 canisters of shake mix ... wen I started yes I had to pay for my product I bought the 4 week pack to last all month and that was 150$ but that was the LAST pack I had to put MY money up for otherwise I’ve been getting mine for FREE EVERY MONTH FOR OVER 24 months ... no I do not have a lot of customers I probably have three or four that is it I don’t send cold messages I don’t really send messages at all I guess that’s why I don’t have many customers but I don’t like to do that if somebody wants it they can ask me about it then we can talk but I will not stock your social media and keep asking you to buy my product if you’re interested you’ll end up asking me I hate asking people it is just not my cup of tea but my Couple of customers I do have are my best friends they were tired of feeling like shit and now they feel so much better and they can tell you I’ve never once asked them if they want to join they reached out to me so overall I love our products I love the way it makes me feel I love that I don’t have to pay for it and feel this great I mean I guess to each their own
Wow I love your content!! I can’t stop bingeing!! I’d love to hear your opinion on Q Sciences?! It’s a CBD selling MLM, my sister is in it and pretty high up in the company, and it’s almost heartbreaking for me. I’m super anti-MLM and I don’t know how to support her in her job with this company, but her claim is that the products have actually changed her and her husbands lives. (Anti-anxiety and stopping medication because of these CBD products, which I will admit aren’t terrible.) but it’s still an MLM and she’s making great money so I think she’s blind to a lot of the bad? Any thoughts??
I'm not an expert, but if she's doing well in terms of both finances and product use, I'd be more concerned about her relationships. Is she cutting out people who aren't involved? Is she getting culty with the people who are? Etc.
My sister in law is doing Herbalife now. She earns just a lot but not enough for California, she lives in a rented house, has her own gym where people can go workout and drink an Herbalife shake and she’s still barely breaking even. She’s supposedly a high rank in the company but doesn’t seem like it.
Shanann got 800 a month. When her marriage started breaking down and she had bigger things to worry about . So le-vel just added 2000 a month to her already bankrupt wife
I’m confused about these huns stating they get a weekly pay check?? How do you get a weekly pay check if you do not recruit or sell products? That makes it sound like you are getting an hourly rate or salary for the work you actually do.
@@jessicalimbaugh5950 wow I was just about to place an order from a girl that I’ve been following online and I seen that her order form was in her boyfriends name and that shit looked suspicious to me so o RUclipsd and ended up on this video happy I didn’t spend my 100$
@@tiffanyguerrero3678 No ma'am. You can get paid by using your spouse's account to order as well. The big money comes from recruiting. So you're fairly right on that. I just wanted you to know other ways they get paid. 💜
I live in a town in the UK which was a real hotbed for MLMs until recent years when the market became over saturated. I remember that a school friend of mine ended up making a whole lot of money from in because she was one of the first in, around 2007. I had no interest in it because what I found bizarre was how there seemed to be very little focus on the actual products. I always said if you could make money from this everyone would do it.
At no point during the "business opportunity" is there any selling; rather users and participants are channeled towards only buying. Recruits buy with the misunderstanding that they will sell outside the scheme, but in fact they are only buying with the continued downward fallacy of convincing others to buy with the promise they can sell, but they never do. The minuscule selling going towards the insignificant volume of "preferred customers" are of little concern to the corporation, if at all.
I am sure I’m going to be attacked, but I love Thrive. I love the benefits 🤷♀️ To each his own, but if the products work for you personally, do what works for you. Not everyone supports a MLM and they do have a bad rep, but I am completely happy with my experience.
Same girl same ... I love waking up feeling refreshed NO brain fog .. energy & I haven’t slept this good in YEARSSSS & as soon as my head hits the pillow I’m OUT lol
First of all, I love your videos! And I love the anti mlm and totally agree vitamins can definitely be overdosed on however I do want to note vitamin C in high doses is actually a known homeopathic remedy for cold and flu, studies show high dose vitamin C can reduce cold and flu symptoms by 24 hr (double as much as tamaflu) I agree with everything about too many vitamins is a big deal but I do think vitamin c is an exception to the rule and should be noted!
Just seeing this April 15, 2021. I live in a fairly small town of less than 20,000 and know of several people who swear by “the patch” from Le-Vel/Thrive - one is a police 👮♂️ officer who is a Father of 4, soon to be 5, along with his wife also deep into Le-Vel as she a hair salon. They insist it’s the greatest thing. And claim to be “successful” thus far.
I have some questions, because there are some things I didn't understand : 1. You said the car is on lease. What exactly does that mean for the promoters? Is the car theirs? Can they sell it if they don't want to pay so many taxes for it? 2. The "free" trips: if the paid vacation is not that far, could you actually drive there, or would they force to buy a plane ticket? And if you can't afford to pay the ticket, can you refuse to go? Also, I've seen in some videos that the promoters also have business trips with level, does level pay for your ticket then or not?
When I was breast feeding as well I asked the ingredients n was told there is no ingredient list but full of good vitamins n natural stuff lol even said it was safe for breastfeeding lies my doc said no no no
They tried to push it on you while nursing a baby? They have no conscience.. good thing you had enough sense to refuse but think about the foolish woman who do use it. Scary to think it's hurting babes
I had never heard of thrive and I am doing my research now because a girl is trying hard to sell me on it and I am nursing. So glad I didn't fall for it
I just found your videos and I love them but just one tiny suggestion, I know it's hard but I think it would be super useful to more people if you spoke a little slower. Many Mlm's like to target immigrants and often their first language isn't English so it could be really hard for those people to follow along with your videos and I think your message is so important!
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Oh man today’s a hot one!!! What do we think about the cat fishing scene at the end? 😉
*please avoid commenting personal attacks on the people in this video!*
@Heather Clark I know lmao!!!
That was amazing!! Ahaha
I love that you're fishing 🎣 lolol that's awesome
Fantastic video, very well presented
@12345grov they are free to an extent. Depending on your rank depends if you have to pay for your own airfare or not. But the hotel stay is guaranteed free.
I realize this is an older video, I just watched it and it has just blown my mind. How do these people get away with this kind of criminal behavior? I have followed the Shannan Watts murder case and Level is a huge part of it, so I couldn’t wait to see this. I watched every video of Shannan pushing the Thrive line. I remember her saying, “don’t listen to ANY negativity about what you’re doing, just ignore these people”, which i couldn’t understand and thought was bizarre. She also said her “goal in life was to help people” which I thought was even more bizarre. She already had a husband and two children to “help”. The constant filming of her poor kids. The non stop talking on the phone and the videos. She called people who disapproved “haters”. This video you made is absolutely mind blowing. Poor Shannan fell for this lie, hook, line and sinker. Even bankruptcies and 3 months behind on the mortgage couldn’t get thru to her that her life had become totally unmanageable and she was addicted to the lie. She and her poor kids did not deserve what they got, but I can see how her husband just finally flipped. My God, these things are evil. Thank you for all your hard work, it’s excellent. And very, very sad.
Chris Watts KEPT those patches on at all times. He described it as making you feel like you worked out all day.... seriously can’t think of this company without thinking about that horrible case
I swear he also said in an interview that he would wear more than one at times too.
Same first thing I thought of. Theres vids of shanann talking about how great of a life she has because of le vel before she passed. It's really eerie to watch knowing what happened
It's such a sad case. I totally believe he abused the use of those patches. It's scary.
I worried about that myself. I am super sensitive to energy stuff so I wondered if the patch would kick my butt and make me feel like i was gonna shoot through the roof. Rest in peace though to sweet Shanann and the children. They didn't deserve what happened. No one does.
@@IsabellaLanter i did read or watch that info. So sad. It's common sense but cw didn't have it lol
Thrive gives me Scientology vibes. Their ads are very Scientology. Their conventions. The testimonies. All of it.
Wow I never really thought of that ! But NOW THAT I DO THINK OF IT it is sooooo scientology " ish " your on to something girl . Quite interesting!
wow....great observation .
True
MLM work 24/7 promoting a shitty product, faking a perfect lifestyle on social media, once you rip through your friends and family, you are left with a garage full of shitty product. A negative balance bank account likely bankrupt. Basically look up Shanann Watts see how that all worked out. 🥺
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Fun fact: I had a job interview with LeVel a couple years ago in corporate. Then I found out it was an mlm and noped out. Then I found out it was the mlm Shanann Watts was in and I was kinda freaked out
omg no wayyyyy!!! Yes girl I would have run awayyy
You’d think if their ‘business opportunity’ was so amazing and great they wouldn’t have to have corporate. They could pay their actual employees the same way they pay the huns. But of course not. All while shitting on corporate jobs they’ve got their own branch.
@@MrLulu2797 yikes!
@@Balletified that's freaking gold. That's nuts!
@@Balletified That was Atkinson
I promoted Le-Vel Thrive for 3 years. Everything you say in this video is mostly true. Btw.. yes, there is a TON of caffeine in these products. That's why if you stop, you feel like shit from the caffeine withdrawal. Making you think the product did if fact work wonders. But, you were just going through caffeine withdrawals. Plus, if you have a shellfish allergy, you should not take the capsules. They have seaweed in them. No promoters worn you of this. The DFT patches have a natural vitamin in them that is a natural aspirin. This is why they clam the patches help with aches and pains. But, again, if you have a medical problem and can not be on blood thinners, this can cause a problem. Like anything, this product is not for everyone. But, the untrained promoters, like myself in the past, will not tell you. And, yes, your "sisters" will disappear when you are no longer making them money. AND...the fact that they make you lease the "free" luxury car is BS! You never own it!
Wow the medical side of this one is so dangerous. 😬 I have a kidney bleeding disorder, and I bet this stuff would basically kill me. Yikes. Wonder how many anxiety disorders they're responsible for? I say this because i overdosed on caffeine once as a teenager, which triggered a severe, severe panic disorder which then grew into agoraphobia and generalized anxiety disorder. I took a fifteen year break from caffeine to let my body and mind heal, and now I actually use moderate amounts of caffeine to help me sleep (I have ADD so I'm backwards), but I'll always have an anxiety disorder and will always have to be careful about it. Their products would be awful for me but I bet it wouldn't stop them from trying to push them on me!
I always wondered about the products because I could use the energy but I have a MAJOR Asprin allergy that I have to carry an Epipen for. If I would of put on that patch I would of been put in the hospital.. wow! Thank you for that information!
I loved it! It gave me so much energy and i never felt healthier! But yes you do almost "withdrawal" from it! But honest to Every thing i loved it.. Never sold for it but i did use it for months! It was exspensive though so i had to stop
yep. Someone sent me samples of the capsules. I have a very very very deadly allergy to seafood. Was very glad I read the label carefully, as I've been burned in the past...
I noticed pills like fat burners just have like 300-500 mg of caffeine LOL that’s so damn unhealthy
I never heard of Thrive or MLM's until the Watts murders. You're providing important info to keep many safe. Thanks so much for putting the word out. I like 'The Recovering Humbot' too.
I first heard of mlm atfer the jodi arias case.
Stay safe ,stay away from MLM it’s a scam and corrupt, and could cause health problems or worse for people, main thing just stay away from this and stay healthy and happy, this MLM is a horrible way to go ,
One of my friends moms had a stroke from taking level. The rep had signed her mom up for auto ship without telling her and wouldn’t let her cancel. My friend had to cancel her moms credit card and threaten the rep with elder abuse.
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Le-vel is horrible for people, it should be illegal to sell that junk, it’s very bad for some people health, and it’s possible that it could cause death, it just a scam ,it’s nothing but a different kind of cult, fake and fraudulent
MLM should a crime, it’s not healthy it’s cause people health problems and possibly death , I wonder how many people have died from using thrive , everyone please stay away from thrive and stay healthy , good luck and always stay safe from this stuff ,
I was told by a promoter I could take this while pregnant, I showed my doctor who is also my best friends dad and he told me if I took it, I could cause serious harm to my baby and whoever told me that is an idiot. Its so scary these people are out there pushing this.
OMG!! That is so scary!!!!!! Truly terrifying I am so glad you could talk to a doctor about that!
Someone's baby was messed up cuz of them, I believe.
Dude same! Like, hell no!
Oooo no she should of never told u that girl .., she was supposed to tell u “TO PLZZZ CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR FIRST” SMFH I hate wen ppl are told anything so that person can make a dam sale ... yes I’m a promoter but if any mama that’s expecting a baby I will either not messg them or tell them I wouldn’t but if your going to do it plz take the ingredients to your OBGYN AND FAMILY DOC & PLZ ASK THEM FIRST “ but then I still won’t I just don’t feel right selling this to a pregnant mother 🤦🏻♀️😢
Oh dear. Thank goodness you did not listen to whomever told told it was ok . Obviously they are just trying to make a sale and do not care for any bodies health and or wellbeing .
I have waited so long for a thrive/Le Vel deep dive on RUclips. Thank you!!!!!! You're a hero 👏
YASSS! Thank you angel!
You are so beautiful!! Also, out of the many anti-mlm youtubers I’ve watched, you present facts without bias. Obviously you dislike mlms, but you don’t call them out to be petty but because you’re here to educate! I love these videos because they’re informative and I’m hoping people see them and steer clear or even leave their mlm.
I so agree! Thank you so much for your support and I am so glad you see my motivations with these videos
I am so happy .... because I was curious about this company ... i am tired of hearing about monat.
Same girl!!! After a while the big MLMs do get tons of coverage and we need to branch off to other MLMS!
Worked with a girl who was constantly doing this stuff ... I just can't believe how people get into this. It is such a scam.
They all dumber than a bag of dicks
Good grief! This company is absolutely awful! How sad good people get sucked into doing this.
I so agree. I want this video to just grow because I want people to have access to this information
Girl, your catfishing game is SPOT ON!
BTW, it had never occurred to me that the car bonus was taxable income, even though it's completely logical since the huns are independent contractors. Still, it had never occurred to me and I don't remember ever having heard it in the hundreds of anti-MLM videos I have watched. It's great you've pointed it out!
A car allowance is taxable income when you work at any corporation. I have about 15 years of experience in payroll. The trips would be taxable income as well, unless it's a business trip. Gifts are what the IRS calls fringe benefits, which are taxable as income.
You’re amazing thank you for all this info , I had a friend obsessed with signing me up to Mary Kay years ago . She called me 7 times a day and even showed up to my home and place of work .... frightening
@Isabella Lanter thank you so much for this video!! I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I almost fell for this and signed up as a promoter. I believe it was fate, I got on youtube to find a video Le-vel put out and found this one instead. So THANK YOU!
I think the double patches that Chris Watts wore altered his personality and caused him to become aggressive! I really wish someone would look into this and hold them accountable!
There is a doctor on RUclips that covers it but I can't remember his name
Andrew van der Vaart, M.D., Ph.D covers it quite well.
It's the capsules that really have a speedy effect. He was probably eating them like candy and wearing 2 patches on top of that couldn't have been very good either. One older man did that and lost 147 lbs! That couldn't have been too healthy for a man at his age, over 80yrs old. They say that it's good for everyone which is not being very responsible. 😮
He also didn’t sleep that whole time hardly
oh my goodness thank you so much for providing his name! Super helpful! @@rocktheboat9372
The 16 people that gave you a thumbs down must be in Le-Vel.
Or it could have been an accident.
Lol
Or just use the products and love them
@@taylorstruckman2096 jajajajajaja.
How do you see the thumbs down?
I'm so glad I watched this I was literally ready to pull out my credit card cuz this girl from high school that I thought was so pretty and popular 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️(yes I'm embarrassed to say that) but everything she was saying sounds like my life and now she's supposedly doing so well emotionally physically and financially but really I would just be making her more money not myself and she's really big into social media so she's got a following more people to entice, I don't have lots of followers cuz I'm not big into social media so I just don't think I'd be a good candidate, so glad I watched this🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I ran across a level rep telling a thyroid patient that she can take her thyroid meds with that capsule you have to take in the morning. I take the same med, you can't take it within 4 hours of any supplements as supplements effects the way the meds are absorbed. I tried to tell the the woman with thyroid disease, the rep said I had no idea what I was talking about as thrive causes no drug interactions. I just begged the woman to speak to her pharmacists first.
Wow! This is awful, and so dangerous to some people. Not cool, not cool at all.
@@michellelanter628 It really is super dangerous, a sudden deline in thyroid function because your meds are not absorbing properly depending on the person can have catastrophic consequences.
I have hypothyroidism & yeah you can’t take ANY vitamins until 4 hours after the pill & in Le Vel you’re supposed to take those vitamin pills they sell on an empty stomach first thing in the morning so basically for anyone like us with thyroid issues it’s a NO GO.
I have to take my prenatal vitamins at night because of my thyroid medicine
@@samiokrasinski7724 Ikr? My meds say right on the bottle that it's a no no. On thrive you have to do the capsule first thing, and then the mix in the morning too which is also packed with vitamins and minerals. I just can't believe she tried to tell me that thrive doesn't cause drug interactions...like whaaaa?!
@@mynamemightbekelli9123 Sounds like the Doterra reps. They give out really dangerous info too.
You do a great job breaking down this predatory company (an oxymoron when discussing MLMs) but one of the more maddening aspects of this is the notion that the Lifestyle Getaways are in any sense, a vacation. They are not. Not only does one have to secure the trip via hammering away at others to buy the product and/or buy basement filling levels of the product themselves, but when most people are fortunate enough to take a vacation, the entire point and purpose is to getaway from work. With MLMs, it's the opposite. Their goal is to fly you off to a temporary echo chamber so that you can be pressured and "motivated," to do even more. The trips are NOT for the promoters. They are for those at the top. It allows them to gather together the fully indoctrinated so that the clamp can be tightened even more.
Nice rooms, a band, good food, etc ....that is bait. The hook? Well, the hook is hidden in the details. You have done a great job of outlining those details.
Please keep up the great work. It's both necessary and vitally important.
MLM - Cross between the slimy world of timeshare sales and Scientology 😵
Honestly?! Thank you so much for doing these deep dives, I didn’t even know this was a MLM and I never even heard about them before. You seriously are such an amazing creator and thank you for educating us! Love you! 💛
My friend is a Thrive rep and she got me to do it… for reference I’m a recovering c*c*ine addict, used for like a solid 10 years… when I used this product, I swear I felt like as though I had just did a gr*m of bl*w to myself and had to stop using the product IMMEDIATELY the stuff that’s in these products aren’t normal and shouldn’t be consumed!!!
Soooo after thought… the girl that I know that’s a Thrive rep is also a fellow recovering addict and she had 6 years clean when we had reconnected… needless to say, just recently, she happened to have suffered from some really terrible abdominal pains (keep in mind I believe she has been “Thriving” for about a year/year and a bit maybe more I’m not 100% tbh but I know it’s been over a year) and was prescribed a narcotic for the pain and unfortunately relapsed. She’s been having a hell of a time with the drs trying to figure out what the issue is. Thankfully, she was only using for around 6 months and has found her way back to the rooms but I would NOT be surprised if the issues she’s having are related to her using this product… just my thoughts
My friend keeps telling me how great this stuff is says its pharmaceutical strength and just like adderall..i said no thanks that would give me anxiety. Smh
I had a friend who wanted me to join this company & to start paying £50 every month so I can go for a lifetime opportunity!...she was so obsessed into getting me to join that I totally fricked out & blocked her!!
Don't come for me, y'all....but I LOVED Thrive. I lost weight, had energy, and felt great. I was so disappointed when I found out it was an MLM. In fact, it's probably the only MLM from which I'd ever consider buying. Then again-- my man just reminded me of something. He says the entire time I was using Thrive I was also smoking meth. I'm not trying to be silly [I'm a recovering addict from lots of different substances], so that very well may have had something to do with it! 😂
Hey girl no hate here! I totally respect it if people love the products! It was just the way MLMs are set up that I don’t like! I’m glad they worked for you girl!! No shame here for loving the products! And girl I’m so proud of you for that!
So glad to hear you are recovering. Be proud of yourself! And lean on Jesus in times of temptation. God bless!
Thrive & Meth = weight loss, noted 🥴
Lol, of course, it was the meth that made you have energy and lose weight. Caffeine, of which there are tons in it, also boost metabolism. It's only a placebo. The weight loss thing obviously didn't work for Shanann Watts' girlfriend, the one who called the cops...
@@gregthomas1323 actually, you don't even need Thrive, honestly... :D Just plain meth will do it, and it's cheaper.
In the Netflix documentary it shows the watts family at the beach and Shannan's husband and dad were playing with the kids in the water and where was Shannon? Surprise, surprise on the phone (probably sending out invites). Its sad that this company made her feel like she couldn't even take the time to play with her kids at the beach.
Sad for shanann family that she put this scamming le-vel before her own family , that’s disgusting ,
@@GoldyRyunShe was brainwashed. She became hooked into the MLM cult straight out of high school. She was not an evil woman.
Damn, this woman knows this scam upside down and all around! If you have a nasty MLM scam haunting and running around your house, “who ya gonna call?” “Isabella!” 😂😂😂 “ She ain’t afraid of no scam!”
Plus, she’s absolutely beautiful to look at and listen to! 👀
“Idk what you mean by recruiting” 🤣🙄 PA LEASE! 🤣 great job great video! So glad the word is spreading more and more. Must stop all the lies and manipulation! ❤️
Omg your makeup is on freaking point today!!!!!!!!! You look breathtaking in the thumbnail!!!!!!! You're always beautiful, but you're glowing ❤️
The editing and information in this video are soooo well done! Love it! Your makeup in the video is so pretty too.
I know someone from my work who recently joined level and I’m secretly hoping she doesn’t try and message me about it 🤦🏼♀️
Thrive makes me think of the Watts case and then I’m like nah, I’m good. 😂 when someone tried to get me to buy this I said I had an adhesive allergy and told me it’s different than normal tape so it won’t effect me. I’m like all adhesives give me a reaction- not just tape. 🙄
They told you anything to sell that crap.
You are so informative and your videos are so well put together! Keep up the good work, Isabella! :)
This is really bad but in a alternate universe where I was in an MLM and I didn't have enough qualifications to go on the trip I would just pay for the trip by myself and sneak into it and just lie to everyone and it's still would have been cheaper
Honestly you have such a great point lol!
You’re not alone 😬😬😬
Something else to think about the “free” car is car insurance costs! You’ll have to update your car insurance plan, and that cost is most likely going to go up for a luxury car.
Exactly!!!
There's more. It is a lease in the sales person's name. If the seller's earnings drop below the "car level" for a month, the SELLER has to pay the lease amount. That is the pressure Shan'nan was under.
@@lisamcdonald2877 it’s a lease or you can buy the vehicle.
Basically car allowance is a monthly advance on your own income
Shanann Watts was a beauty person and she got severely brainwashed into this MLM before her passing. She was the perfect victim for LeVel
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I'm so glad you started by bringing up how Level silences people. In the Chris Watts murder case, he was never brought to trial, just sent directly to prison. There are real conspiracy theories about this. He worked for an oil company that was being traded that year and Shan'ann worked for Level/Thrive, both of these companies pulled strings to make sure the case received as little media attention as possible. Chris Watts was given life in prison instead of Death Row as a special favor if he just admitted he killed everyone, instead of what he'd been saying, which was that he only killed Shan'ann. Those are the kinds of strings pulled to make sure there was no trial.
I do feel like this MLM and Anadarko, the oil company CW worked for, were behind the scenes making this case, THIS CASE, which would have been huge for so long in the media in 2018, fly under the radar by not having it go to trial. And this case needed a trial to bring everything out into the open. For one, knowing how much Shan'ann actually made at Level/Thrive would have been helpful because it was a huge stressor in the relationship.
ALSO, the sole reason Shan'ann was discovered to be missing so quickly, if you remember her friend Nicole showed up to the house early in the morning after having dropped her off at 2 in the morning. Nicole knocked and knew something was immediately wrong, because they were going to go get the lease on her Level car that day. Most people would have knocked and left, understanding that a pregnant woman, who'd just been on a long flight late into the night would want to sleep in, but not these ladies. Not when she was going to get the Level lease that day. That's why she was so adamant to get into the house, and called the police right away.
It was better to offer a plea. It just takes 1 juror believing his bullshit story, to keep him out of prison, and with how slow it takes to get to the electric chair, it doesn't shorten his lifespan by that much.
Watts confessed, pleaded guilty, and got five life sentences; three to be served consecutively and two concurrently. Shanann's family agreed to his punishment. He got his time in court and the judicial system worked, as it does, in cases like this. Even without a lengthy court trial, this case was *heavily* covered domestically and even made international news. If anyone wanted less media focus on the case, they failed horribly. Between the incessant media coverage, book(s), televised in-jail interviews, Netflix, the release of the police interrogation (including his confession and speaking with his father) footage, RUclips, podcasts, and so on, this case was and is plastered everywhere. Anadarko, Thrive, and Le-vel were companies so often mentioned that they will always be directly associated to this case. That name recognition will last as long as the public's collective memory. Just because people want/desire more intimate details about the inner workings of Shanann and Watt's life doesn't mean that they are entitled to them. Most, if not all, horrific cases leave questions that will never be answered. Was there any external pressure on any part of this case, including less coverage or information? We may never know for sure. If there was, it didn't seem to work on quieting, or even dampening, the absolute furor that was this case.
As a footnote - Even if Watts had be sentenced to death, Colorado abolished the death penalty in 2020 and all death penalty sentences were commuted. The large sum of money spent on a lengthy trial, that may not have resulted in a guilty verdict, would have been wasted.
There is a rumor that Shannan's parents were paid by Thrive to not seek the death penalty for CW, if the case had gone to trial it is very likely that Chris's defense would have said that the murders were caused by the economic disaster that Thrive had led to his family, they would also have said that Thrive products influenced CW at the time of committing these murders.
Watts pleaded guilty as he was fearful of the death penalty, even though he would not have gotten it anyway. By doing so, he also thinks that he can somehow fight on and be out again one day, which will never happen. Perhaps one day he will come to terms that he will be a lifer.
Le-Vel or his employer would have had no power in getting him to plead guilty. Think about it, what kind of pressure or incentive could they have given him?
I appreciate how fast you talk for the amount of information you fit in in a short period of time 😂💕
This is the mlm Shanann Watts was in before chris watts murdered her and their kids:( great vid tho! You look super gorgeous btw!!
I know! Whenever I hear about that MLM I always think about that case
I wonder where Shannan would be in her life if Chris had been normal and just divorced her? Would she be in her MLM or would she have realized that her MLM was predatory? She was such a good person, I don't think that she would have stayed in her MLM. She would have done so much with her life.
@JT RUclips... Chris watts.
here to learn about Shanann Watt’s MLM ( rest in paradise 🙏🏽 ). i’m anti MLM and never even heard of it. thank you for posting.
Always think about Shannan in relation to this company. I think these high caffeine patches, the MLM led to many of their marriage/finance problems.
@@seaside2001 At the time of her death….Shannan Watts had $27,000 worth of Thrive products in her basement. They were headed for a 2nd bankruptcy
Neeks Peeks. Check it out
Just thinking how SWatts sold this stuff to friends that we're lupus patients because she touted how amazing Thrive was and also the reason she no longer needed medicine for her lupus. 🤔 Just think about how many people were put at risk for this crazy stuff she truly believed in. God. Bless her! Her husband was a monster and the product she believed wholeheartedly in was a dangerous fraud.😔
She was abusive and controlling. Chris didn't have any communication skills at all. Bad combo.
She never had lupus or any of her other fake conditions. She was a Munchie and Munchie mommy
Wrong. She was a lifelong scammer and abuser and knew it was a sham. Literally everything about her life was either fake or a lie including that ridiculous pronunciation of her name...its really just Shannon.
The case dynamic changed for me when I learned shann’ann was in an MLM. It changes you.
It becomes your life. It puts you into debt.
I think it affected chris watts personality. Couple with the fact he was dragged into it…I can see why he flipped out.
These scams are pure evil.
The fact is she did not believe in it and we now know she was lying and never even had lupus makes it so much more disgusting and downright evil.
New sub! Please slow down. This is a ton of info and it’s great that you’re passionate about it but hard to understand when there are no pauses. Also this makes me so sad for Shanann 😭😭 she believed in this company so much. RIP Shan, Bella, CeCe & Nico ✨💜🦋
Ok I commented about half way thru the video so maybe you were just real passionate at that point and talking fast 😅 it got better as the video went on. I will definitely be watching more of your content! I appreciate you going into all the details of these MLMs so much! I’ve been trying to find something that works for me for sooooo long but never really tried an MLM and now I won’t, I will stick with my doctor and amazon where if I want to try something I can and if I don’t like it I’m not stuck with it! Thank you! ☺️
You can choose playback speed on settings. Listen in .75x it’s perfect
Everything you are saying is 100% true! I used the products and even signed up to promote (I'm an idiot). I felt pretty good after starting to use the products. But I NEVER lost any weight on it. I was seeing all these pictures of people's wt loss, and I'm thinking "what am I doing wrong?" Not even to mention, the products are ungodly priced! Oh and, I never made a single penny either. I'm just thankful I didn't get hugely in debt! Thank you for exposing all of this! Oh and have you ever heard of a company named ViSalus? MIND CONTROL, BRAIN WASHING, AND BULLSHIT!
I sure don’t need that crap to loose weight , I’m 5 feet 2inches tall and weigh 98 lbs and I would never try any of those products, I don’t know what’s in them ,
I love that you give so much in dept information ^^
I would like to ask you to take a breath sometimes so that we have a pause during your talking instead of just a continuous stream of words. With this much information, it gets difficult to get it all if you talk so fast the whole time.
Yes 🙌🏼 I’m a new sub! Here for the info but she is talking wayyyyyy to fast. 💨 I love that she is passionate, but I’m afraid that half the message is going to be lost bc she is not even breathing when she talks lol. Idc if the video is 2 hours long, please slow down so we can absorb the info or at least comprehend it.
You can all playback at .75x speed. You can change that on the video’s settings. Try it, it’s lovely.
Don't forget folks, the placebo effect is a powerful thing! 😉
I can't believe people STILL tout that : "it's my own business " ish. NO! U r the CUSTOMER! U buy the shit from the company (to have a good inventory) in hopes of reselling it. The company could give a shit if u resell it, because they have already made their $ by selling it to YOU!!!
If a lawyer contacts you, make it public and then sue them.
So glad you made this video 🙌🏼 I’ve been waiting to see one on Level after I had an experience with the company. Can’t wait to share this with others. Thank you!
Early squad!!!!! 👑
Usually I have coffee with you & Deanna... but girl... it’s 🍷 time 🤣
You're amazing lol! It's absolutely wine time lol
You are absolutely the best anti-mlmer on RUclips!
awwwwwww thank you so much!!!!!
As another anti MLM creator on RUclips. I agree with this statement. You’re the best lol 😂💁🏼♀️💁🏼♀️🙌🏼🙌🏼 love ya babe ♥️♥️♥️
Also agree with this statement
For anyone saying she talks too fast, just click on the three dots (upper right of the screen) and you can slow it down. I happen to love the fast pace. Most other RUclipsrs I click the 3 dots and speed it up!
I have a friend who re-joined after being a promoter years ago. She doesn't really push it on me because we really are friends and have been since grade school. However, she posts how great she feels etc. and our other friend decided to try the product. She claims she got huge bursts of energy and cleaned things she's NEVER cleaned before. She decided to upgrade her patch to a stronger one and gave me a free 3 days worth sample. It done absolutely nothing to me. At all. My OG promoter friend said that for some people it just takes longer to feel the effects of the vitamins and that I should try it for a whole month before I pass my judgment. So my other friend decided to become a promoter too just to "thrive for free". I still haven't given in. And I love my morning coffee, not for energy, but I just love coffee. So the claim that "You can buy this for $6 a day. You guys that the price of your daily Starbucks or eating lunch out!" Ummm first of all, no. Not everyone buys Starbucks and lunch out daily, or even weekly. So no. This is now an additional cost for some. Second of all, who are you to tell someone they should give up something bc you don't agree with it? I agree with you. Disgusting tactics.
IT'S A CULT
Bobbil Where did you find that out or hear that?
It is a cult, people who fall for MLMs have something missing in their lives and believe this fantastic opportunity will make it all better. Isn’t that the definition of a cult?
I totally agree with you
Love that you covered Le-vel!!! It’s the mlm I stayed stuck in the longest
Oh hun tell your story am genuinely interested to hear x
I’m going to school for health & fitness, been a personal trainer and I’m passionate about health so I have some background, but not a nutritionist. I looked into these products and I would NOT recommend these omg. The biggest issue is every single product has caffeine in their “proprietary blend” which means..... they literally don’t have to disclose HOW MUCH caffeine is in each product. Their patch also has “ForsLean” and “Cosmoperine” which are basically patented mystery blends of herbs that have not been scientifically proven to work 🤨 wack. Thanks for doing your research, I was really curious about this. A girl I know is in it and posts how great her life has become and I was very skeptical lol
Smack.
Two words related to the tragedy of thrive -shannan watts
You becoming an Anti-MLM Secret Spy and sharing the tea makes my day!🫖☕
Love your antiMLM content. By the way you look stunning in this video.
Very informative
Sorry to take you all to Watt’s island again but Shan’ann’s “car bonus” was a Lexus leased in Chris’s name. She had totes of products in her basement. She had her two year old, Bella, in her down line
I'm loving this already and I'm not even a minute into the video-- there is not enough about this MLM.
YASSS GIRL! I so agree we need to have more conversations about this MLM. We need to get the information out there and help people see the truth
I have recently subscribed to you, and I’m soo happy that I did 🥰 love all the content girl 💜
awwww well first of all thank you and welcome to the family! You are too sweet and I am glad you enjoyed!
Another amazing video Isabella! 🖤
I am so glad I saw this video!! I almost signed up yesterday and got distracted with something else. Thank you for helping me with my decision😊. I messaged a person that works for trive and there messages are pre made, as I send them a message and as soon as I click send, got this huuuuge message asking me to sign up for free and then to choose a product to start that costs 200.00 bucks and that's the cheapest.😳. On another note: what is yiur opinion on "IT WORKS"?
I got sucked in & now out $450. I’m sick about it. Signed up & never heard from my “sister, babe, sponsor” blah blah again.
Anybody stupid enough to fall for an mlm deserves the debt they incur....period.
lol shut up! I'm sure you've been in a position where you've been manipulated or lied to about something then found out later. Don't pull this high and mighty act. Victim blaming is tacky and something we don't do here. Go to someone else's channel that's cool with that.
Your absolutely right, I totally agree with you
Le-Vel sounds like Scientology to me! 😳
Could those patches have affected chris watts??? A sudden rush of adrenaline? These companies are dangerous imo
Great video! You are every easy to listen to! Suggestion for deep dive video is Melaleuca! Is this an MLM??? I think so but they deny it
I know this is about Thrive but it’s really pisses me off that MLM Huns sign people up for auto ship without telling the customer. That IS stealing. An IT Works hun did this to me once and it took FOUR months to get the company to cancel the “subscription”, the rep ghosted me, and when I called the company they just directed me back to the rep. I had to threaten legal action to get the auto ship canceled. They refunded me for the fifth month because it hasn’t been shipped yet, but that was it. They basically STOLE $300 from me without my consent because each box was $99. That was the moment I became aggressively anti-MLM. It’s so wrong. I don’t know how they haven’t been sued for shit like that.
Legal loopholes. MLMs are good at that
I can not f'ing believe the "bonus money" u get to pay for your "free car" is taxed as income! I didn't even know they could do that. I'm sure its a way for the company to save $. Also why isn't your channel 10x bigger? Your vids are excellent & well researched. Noone ever made those points before. Hope u hit the algorithm soon.
Yes you have to pay taxes on that as it is income but They don’t have to give you employee benefits like insurance, sick leave, labor protection laws like time on the clock. You work 24/7 for someone else without any employee protections IMo. Unions...anyone??
Shan’ann’s parents had to pay for her and Chris’s passports to go out of the country…they couldn’t even pay for that
I was always mad because here in Canada it's cheaper to fly out of the country then to fly within. $800 to go to Ireland from Vancouver but $1200 to get to Toronto which btw was one of my layovers to go to Ireland
Damn! Those flights are still hella pricey
@@IsabellaLanter I know. I'm on the phone waiting with the airline to see if and when I'm getting a refund for my flight to Russia for my wedding
I had tried the free three day trial... I was going thru some court stuff and had to take a drug test... It made me test positive for methamphetamines
😬 hope everything's ok
Wow...😨
Mcfarlands blog is Lazy Man and Money and he pretty much dismantled Thrive on his blog so Level sued him. That blog post is the most honest review of Thrive and a deep dive into Level and even though it was written 5 years ago he still leaves it up. I'm so glad Level lost that lawsuit
Yep. As a former promoter, I talked about them on my YT channel. I promptly heard from their lawyers and now I have no YT channel. 😑
I want to know who's mortgage she paid because it wasn't her own.
Why am I just seeing this girls channel??? Omg she’s spot on and made me think! I love how she has her facts straight!!! Ty for this awesome channel!!!
What she is saying is true, I almost joined them and the women told me it was "free" but I had to buy 360 dollars in products, I didnt even do it, I mean, its ridiculous.
WOWWWW WHY WOULD U have to buy $360 dollars worth of product 😳 that’s def not how it goes ... there’s 3 options 100$ for 2 weeks worth so 14 packs of vitamins, one box of shake mix which has 15 in each or one canister & 14 DFT (derma fusion technology) then there’s the most popular pack and that’s the 4 week pack u get 30 packs of vitamins 2in each pack, 2 boxes or two canisters o lifestyle mix and 30 DFT’s for $150 & then there is the couples pack which is crazy $ it’s 300$ and u get 2 boxes of vitamins so 90 packs & 60 DFT’s & 4 boxes or 4 canisters of shake mix ... wen I started yes I had to pay for my product I bought the 4 week pack to last all month and that was 150$ but that was the LAST pack I had to put MY money up for otherwise I’ve been getting mine for FREE EVERY MONTH FOR OVER 24 months ... no I do not have a lot of customers I probably have three or four that is it I don’t send cold messages I don’t really send messages at all I guess that’s why I don’t have many customers but I don’t like to do that if somebody wants it they can ask me about it then we can talk but I will not stock your social media and keep asking you to buy my product if you’re interested you’ll end up asking me I hate asking people it is just not my cup of tea but my Couple of customers I do have are my best friends they were tired of feeling like shit and now they feel so much better and they can tell you I’ve never once asked them if they want to join they reached out to me so overall I love our products I love the way it makes me feel I love that I don’t have to pay for it and feel this great I mean I guess to each their own
@@user-AllieG12345 punctuation, lady
Wow I love your content!! I can’t stop bingeing!! I’d love to hear your opinion on Q Sciences?! It’s a CBD selling MLM, my sister is in it and pretty high up in the company, and it’s almost heartbreaking for me. I’m super anti-MLM and I don’t know how to support her in her job with this company, but her claim is that the products have actually changed her and her husbands lives. (Anti-anxiety and stopping medication because of these CBD products, which I will admit aren’t terrible.) but it’s still an MLM and she’s making great money so I think she’s blind to a lot of the bad? Any thoughts??
I'm not an expert, but if she's doing well in terms of both finances and product use, I'd be more concerned about her relationships. Is she cutting out people who aren't involved? Is she getting culty with the people who are? Etc.
My sister in law is doing Herbalife now. She earns just a lot but not enough for California, she lives in a rented house, has her own gym where people can go workout and drink an Herbalife shake and she’s still barely breaking even. She’s supposedly a high rank in the company but doesn’t seem like it.
Shanann got 800 a month. When her marriage started breaking down and she had bigger things to worry about . So le-vel just added 2000 a month to her already bankrupt wife
I’m confused about these huns stating they get a weekly pay check?? How do you get a weekly pay check if you do not recruit or sell products? That makes it sound like you are getting an hourly rate or salary for the work you actually do.
Shannon Cimakasky You only get paid if you have a customer ordering ,or an account under spouses name that you order from.
They’re lying you only get paid if you have people you’ve recruited
@@jessicalimbaugh5950 wow I was just about to place an order from a girl that I’ve been following online and I seen that her order form was in her boyfriends name and that shit looked suspicious to me so o RUclipsd and ended up on this video happy I didn’t spend my 100$
@@Lovelymrs1229 Thank goodness you didn't!!
@@tiffanyguerrero3678 No ma'am. You can get paid by using your spouse's account to order as well. The big money comes from recruiting. So you're fairly right on that. I just wanted you to know other ways they get paid. 💜
I live in a town in the UK which was a real hotbed for MLMs until recent years when the market became over saturated. I remember that a school friend of mine ended up making a whole lot of money from in because she was one of the first in, around 2007. I had no interest in it because what I found bizarre was how there seemed to be very little focus on the actual products. I always said if you could make money from this everyone would do it.
@ the end of the day (which we humans just don't seem to grasp): anything at all too good to be true, always is!
I wouldn't take that junk for free. People are so gullible.
Never ever heard of this brand prior to S.W. case. Maybe bc it's not sold in retail stores? Wonder if the case truly hurt their company/sales
Nothing sold thru an mlm is in stores I don't think anyway
You need to make merch that says “Truly Disgusting “. Absolutely love you!!!
At no point during the "business opportunity" is there any selling; rather users and participants are channeled towards only buying. Recruits buy with the misunderstanding that they will sell outside the scheme, but in fact they are only buying with the continued downward fallacy of convincing others to buy with the promise they can sell, but they never do. The minuscule selling going towards the insignificant volume of "preferred customers" are of little concern to the corporation, if at all.
Thanks for doing this! I sincerely hope they don’t come after you
I am sure I’m going to be attacked, but I love Thrive. I love the benefits 🤷♀️ To each his own, but if the products work for you personally, do what works for you. Not everyone supports a MLM and they do have a bad rep, but I am completely happy with my experience.
Same girl same ... I love waking up feeling refreshed NO brain fog .. energy & I haven’t slept this good in YEARSSSS & as soon as my head hits the pillow I’m OUT lol
@@user-AllieG12345 YESS! I also think making a living working from your phone because the products are amazing is a blessing. 🙌❤️
Lol oh boy
Me too
Jajajajajaja.
You’ve become my favorite anti-MLM RUclipsr ❤️
Brittany Harnden Mine too!
She’s real and not all about the drama lately and I dig it!
Agreed!
AWWWWW!! Yayyyy! That truly makes me so happy thank you so much beautiful! Your support means the world to me!
Did she purposefully send that as a voice message? Lmao, great video
First of all, I love your videos! And I love the anti mlm and totally agree vitamins can definitely be overdosed on however I do want to note vitamin C in high doses is actually a known homeopathic remedy for cold and flu, studies show high dose vitamin C can reduce cold and flu symptoms by 24 hr (double as much as tamaflu) I agree with everything about too many vitamins is a big deal but I do think vitamin c is an exception to the rule and should be noted!
Just seeing this April 15, 2021. I live in a fairly small town of less than 20,000 and know of several people who swear by “the patch” from Le-Vel/Thrive - one is a police 👮♂️ officer who is a Father of 4, soon to be 5, along with his wife also deep into Le-Vel as she a hair salon. They insist it’s the greatest thing. And claim to be “successful” thus far.
I have some questions, because there are some things I didn't understand :
1. You said the car is on lease. What exactly does that mean for the promoters? Is the car theirs? Can they sell it if they don't want to pay so many taxes for it?
2. The "free" trips: if the paid vacation is not that far, could you actually drive there, or would they force to buy a plane ticket? And if you can't afford to pay the ticket, can you refuse to go? Also, I've seen in some videos that the promoters also have business trips with level, does level pay for your ticket then or not?
@Gee Whiz thanks for your answer! It's kind of messed up, pretty stressful!
The car is not on lease. It could be but it can also be purchased.
Also, airfare is included on trips at some levels. Get your info straight please.
They sell you the "bussines trip".
When I was breast feeding as well I asked the ingredients n was told there is no ingredient list but full of good vitamins n natural stuff lol even said it was safe for breastfeeding lies my doc said no no no
They tried to push it on you while nursing a baby? They have no conscience.. good thing you had enough sense to refuse but think about the foolish woman who do use it. Scary to think it's hurting babes
"No ingredient list" is an instant nope
I had never heard of thrive and I am doing my research now because a girl is trying hard to sell me on it and I am nursing. So glad I didn't fall for it
I have a daughter with multiple heart issues n was told it was safe while breastfeeding my midwife n doc said absolutely no
What eyelashes are you wearing here??? You look flawless!
This was a very informative video. Thank you for doing the research!
I just found your videos and I love them but just one tiny suggestion, I know it's hard but I think it would be super useful to more people if you spoke a little slower. Many Mlm's like to target immigrants and often their first language isn't English so it could be really hard for those people to follow along with your videos and I think your message is so important!
Have you tried slowing down the playback speed? That might help (:
awesome!!! Finally a deep dive into le-vel!!!! Thank you
I thought the Thrive in the beginning was a RUclips ad and was trying figure why I couldn't skip it